 Welcome back to the breakfast and thanks for joining us for Arthur Price on Place TV Africa. We'll take you through the pages of National Dealies and bring you up to speed with what's making the rounds across the board. We have Chris Omandu who's joining us who will join the conversation as we proceed to help us understand some of the headlines this morning. I set up with a daily independent newspaper and let's find out what's on the daily independent newspaper this morning. The front or the banner caption says federal government moves to probe Jonathan's government over P&ID contracts. I'm sure you're familiar with this particular one. Federal government moves to probe Jonathan's government over P&ID contract says contract capable of undermining national economy. All of that on the front page of the Daily Independent. Away from that parry club reform, governors accuse a Tony general of the Federation of siding consultant against Nigeria. That's also another board caption on the Daily Independent newspaper. Current security challenge, threat to food security, Defense Minister is quoted. You also have Anambra Guber, Aynakajos supplementary election timetable for Ihala. It is not yet over says Ozigbo, PDP candidate that's Valentine Ozigbo. That's on page six of the Daily Independent newspaper. All right, so you also have another caption here saying NMPC assures on availability of petrol cautions against panic buying. Imo assembly in pictures speakers was in Kennedy eBay as replacement and caught Jill's ex pension boss Abdul Rashid Minor for eight years. Plot to extend APC ketika committee tenured thickens. Convention may not hold in December. That's some of the concerns, you know, of the APC ahead of 2023 elections. You also have I pop road streets market still deserted in emo state. That's it on the Daily Independent newspaper this morning. Right to the punch newspapers. Big one there says governor's attack Malami over four hundred and eighteen million dollars consultants fee. Say the AGF lied. Haster suggests a special relationship between AGF's office and consultants as has the NGF and also state resources needed for critical development should not be frittered away. Air Force officer rested over deadly attack on NDA and in an update it says the Air Force is denying that he has been arrested or that he is in the Acoustic and also APC elders lampoon line Mohammed over attack on Abdul Razak. Eco E collapse building subscribers signed over five hundred thousand dollars contract each and also a 40-year-old Ogun Bucha arrested over lovers death after sex. Quarra barred from Ubeck fund over one billion Naira looting by ex-government says governor. A few others on the punch newspapers this morning. We can find their uncertainty hangs over new PDP leadership as the condos approaches Supreme Court. Cooking gas price jumps by two hundred and forty percent marketers Hort imports and Lagos tops as a state's half-year IGR reaches eight hundred and forty nine point one two billion Naira. We can also find here two point three billion Naira theft EFCC customs clash on custody as main a bag 61 year imprisonment. The papers have different years all over them. The bodies show exactly how many years he gets APC PDP bank on runoff OB and party alleged vote buying and others and finally on the punch this I think that's all we can take on the punch this morning. All right let's check out the leadership news wave of this morning talks about the an umbrella supplementary poll APC PDP banks on one hundred and forty eight thousand here voters to overturn Saludo's lead. And the question is how can this be. That's on page four. Hopeful of Oshun Kanu magic. Forget here is our stronghold. Abga is also quoted to say we're watching says O'Hanazy civil society calls for transparency. I like a just voting timeline. Echoes imposes sanction on Mali caught jails minor eight years for pension fraud. And you also have one hundred and I beg your pardon four hundred and eighteen million Paris Club deduction illegal. Governors reply a tiny general of the federation and that's it this morning but just before we move away from the leadership stakeholders recommend urgent overall of past sector and six emails lawmakers impeach speaker. This some of the headlines on the leadership news people this morning and out of the daily trust newspapers pensioners chair has made about sixty one years in prison and act sordid immoral and death he says the judge. Lampoon's banks for aiding and abetting and others can order convicts to reform orders convicts rather to reform 2.4 billion higher and 42 houses. Petro prize NIMASA NPA flouting presidential directives and marketers IGRO Lagos leads as FCT beats reverse Kanu and 33 others. Also federal government and governors in fresh battle over one hundred and seventy two billion our Paris Club deductions. Supplementary Paul Soludo Osigbo battle for Ihala today. Nigeria's IDPs figure to hit three million says the federal government. Those are the stories on the daily trust. Good morning to Mr. Chris Wando the publisher of CKN News. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. Thanks for having me tonight. Alright I'm sure you're excited to talk of the Anambra elections and see how you know basically react to how things have turned out. Supplementary elections from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. today. Valentine Osigbo is complaining on social media I read that early this morning and of course there's also allegations of rigging here and there. What are your thoughts? Yes I'm excited about the election last weekend in Anambra states. Despite all the conditions that the streets of Anambra will be littered with manned cops and cops and rest of them due to the high level of insecurity in Anambra states. At that election was very very successful. I was through a single shot in the part of Anambra state and the people of Anambra state came out to exercise their franchise as it were and as it were as we have it now. By the end of today of the first day tomorrow morning the primary result will be announced and the winner will emerge. That is true those two. I give it to the people of Anambra variance for doing the nature despite the fact that just as we did that was going to be a voter's party. If you see what is coming out of the barriers that are the numbers it was a high enough at some point less than 30% voter's turnout as I guess is the voter's. So it was expected because people seem to value their life more than going out to vote. Despite the last minute and as I call that they are not going to disrupt the election and rest of them. But you will see that security played a huge role in that election and at the end of today whoever emerges when we can see that she truly represents the totality of the people of Anambra state is not there. But definitely it was the positive for me is that that election was conducted I guess of course. The winner is going to emerge and my sister is looking that is going to be the candidate of Abga. Since we were cruising home by the last result the one who was revisions in the 20 local government have been released. Abga had a victorious in its local government PDP won and YPP won. Kiheela, some people are saying it's going to be a battle zone. There's nothing to say that he has the technicality that he can still win. I don't know if he's going to do that. Yes, we have a close to about something thousand registered voters in the local government. I think it's about the fourth or fifth largest local government in terms of registration. But when you look at the trajectory and the voting pattern in all the 30 local government areas, I don't think that any local government has more than 20,000. I doubt it. And if that is the narration there as well, we can predict what is going to happen in Kiheela to the best. But we can only but continue to predict the best as it were. If Abga cruising home adds to me, it's a good one. And why did I say it's a good one? It has always been shown that we cannot Nigerians are getting wiser. And we've been talking about the shift away from these two dominant parties, the APC and BPDP, the two dominant parties in Nigeria who have taken Nigerians for granted. So if we can, we have a choice between the smaller parties and the rest of them, there's a possibility that Nigerians can have alternatives from 2023. That narrative would fly if Abga wasn't the dominant party in Anambra for a long time. Then you can say Nigerians or the Anambrians, as they're called, have decided to move away from the two dominant parties. But Abga has been the dominant party for 16 years in Anambra. So it doesn't seem like they're moving away from anything. They're basically picking a party that they trust. Before Abga, there was BPDP in Anambra states. Before Abga came from 1999, it was BPDP. And Abga came when Chepa Sokore, I think that's his name, came up with a party. And they had a process here and there. And he left the party. I remember Ujjubu. Yes, Ujjubu became the national leader of that party. And it became a relief point for the people of Anambra. And from there, it took off. And Pito Bissoni defied that party. And it has always been like that. And that's why I'm saying in a sense, if you continue to go through that narrative, you realize, let me also remind you that, I think it has a 2020 or three or the other, there was the only party in this South East. It wasn't even Abga. There was a party known as PPA. That party was founded by former governor Oji Uzo Kalo of Abia states. That was this party PPA. And PPA had two states in this world. I think it was Imo and Abia at the point. So that party was also growing up in the Zamban and was almost becoming a dominant party in the South East. Before Oji Uzo Kalo fitted with the goodwill address, because as I'm moving from one party to another address, but then today it's not as it's not nationally as relevant as you know. So what I'm saying in a sense is that we can just continue to look at most of this to Ujjubu party, look at in Anambra election, YPB won a local government. That is Ifa Yuba. He won a local government. If he didn't win a single local government, if you could just come within a few months from nowhere and build up YPB to win a local government, then that is the story that we can still get it right if we decide to do it right. But we can also not think of the fact that you know, Abga as a party is thriving on the image of the debt push out that of Ojiuku. And of course we know the influence that Ojiuku has you know in the politics in the South Eastern region, even as a country in Nigeria. So we can't also take that you know away. So there's a lot that's actually working for Abga at the end of the day. Some people would target the Igbo party. I, if you listen to my statement initially, I mentioned that the turning point was when Ojiuku came into the play, I said that Chiapasukorin was the founder of that party and they had issues, and they got the issues with some of the members of that. Even Chiapasukorin had to form another political party of his own, I can't remember that part. He found out that Ojiuku joined Abga or was part of that. He was also a member of one of the political parties. I don't know whether it was PDP or I don't know whichever. One of those dominant parties, don't forget he contested as a senator in one of those parties as well. So what I'd say in essence is that yes, Abga and Ojiukua may resonate with the people of Anamura and they seem to be part of their own. The surprising part of it was that I was meeting with other political parties to do various, especially PDP and MPs. When I saw the result coming that came in, I was shocked that a party like PDP, perhaps so many strong people behind it, which was, I believe it must have ended up that even Abga was winning in the local government of the candidates of those parties and the rest of them. So it's a good thing for the people of Anamura, as we said, the election has come and we know we'll definitely come out for the next 48 hours. And anybody that's agreed by the outcome of the party has to go to tribunals and also to the court to challenge the outcome. Okay, but let's just stay with the leadership newspaper now. I know you have actually mentioned that, but do you see a possibility of that magic that would happen? I know Iheela were looking at 148,000 voters and it is not expected. I mean, you don't expect that you will have 148 voters turn out to vote. So is there any magic that, you know, that can happen that would make, you know, upturn the lead and turn it to any of the parties, PDP or the APC, as they are, as you're actually hoping? The Osho magic and Kanuja magic would never have won any of the precedence. You can take that to the bar. What about the emo magic? The emo magic is a court. The emo magic is a court. The election was declared, the result was declared that the emo, we obtained, put an output, the Supreme Court judgment that opened the person of Iheela. So the emo magic is a court. So I'm not talking about the court, I'm talking about the result as it were, the result coming out. We remember what happened in Kanu state. PDP was cruising home until that supplementary or inconclusive aspect. You know that language has come into our election Bible now, inconclusive election. And that's true that inconclusive is just a way of giving a breather and giving some people advantage. But you know, it should also happen if PDP was cruising home until that inconclusive election. And if it was able to decide the eventual winner in Osho state, it can also. But the result coming out for a number is very clear. It's not closing now. And what you're talking about 18 local government already going to Abga and just one each of the other parties. I don't know where they went. And I've told you that, yes, one would eat voters registered. The trajectory from what we have seen is that you know the number of people. I don't see that a huge number of people coming out in the year to vote. So let's wait and see. You know, I only say that Nigeria is like a Charlie boy show. Charlie boy show needs to come up at any point. All right. Let's see what we have on the daily trust. The big one there says pensioners chair as Mina bags 61 years imprisonment. It says also that the judge lampoon's banks and rather lampoon's banks for aiding and abetting orders a convict to refund 2.4 billion and 4 feet two houses. What's your reaction to that? Yes. Let me be clear here to put up the statement you mentioned in the cost of bringing out the headlines instead of but there's confessions as well that it was 80 years or 61 years that we thought we would. Any one that reported 61 years is right. Anyone that reported 80 years is right. In law, if you look at the judgment, Mina was given 61 years imprisonment. That was the judgment of report. But that's 61 years to run concurrently. So what it means is that that's the one you have to shrink into the years into 80 years. So he's going to start 80 years that he was sentenced each of the counts carrying the number of years that he was sentenced. So it happens but that is part of law. So that's actually he was sentenced to 61 years in prison. That's concurrently is going to spend 80 years. What I'm not familiar with is that some of these are buried is that whether the 80 years we include the years they already spent in prison because at times the courts can also give that. So 80 years is part of what he has spent and he has been in prison for maybe about three years. That's why he by that he has suspended and rest of that. You might see him just end up spending about five years. But it's not the number of years that matters to me. The fact is that he has been convicted of those allegations. They got driven on money laundering, embezzlement, fraud, corruption and the rest of them. This is the money of Nigerians, retirees who went through the roots of this country effective. This man was not even the chairman of the pension commission. He was brought in as a consultant to be able to, there was some kind of disparity within the pension fund and he was brought in as a promise to come in and be able to see some of the missing bring together most of these missing funds and gather together so that pensioners can have their own. So it was more like an ad hoc consultant who came in to redeem the kind of what's within the pension funds. And at the end of it, so what he did he not take his hands into the pause and last I still in people's, some of those pensioners died miserably not getting their pensions and rest of them. So 80 years for me wasn't too much of an editor or me. I believed that I thought that could have gotten a much, much harsher sentence but that is what he was saying, that is what it is. But the other aspect of it also yesterday was the embarrassment that I showed after he was sentenced. When he was coming out and there was a confrontation between EFCC officers and the prison officers as to who has the right to take me to custody. I don't think that's supposed to come up at all. EFCC has done its job. They've gotten the permission directly to put him in the prison, Nigerian prison and it's the prison authorities that have the rights to keep him in custody. But where did the EFCC think they were taking him to then? Sorry? Where did the EFCC think they were taking him to? Well I don't know, let's say that I was being taken to the prison except EFCC want to be arrested. You know EFCC, even the other times, you can be released by the court and before you, as I just come in now, we just see EFCC, we just arrest, it happens so many times, I'm sure you must have seen that. And probably they wanted to do, probably they wanted to arrest him but if you are going to arrest him, it's not when he's coming out of court. He has been convicted, sent in, let him go to where he was sentenced to. Then you cannot bring fresh charges. If you have any other charges against him, bring fresh charges and he will be someone to come back to court to answer for those who said so there shouldn't be this kind of discrepancies within the government agencies. It's the same federal government agencies, yes it's federal government agencies, Niger prisons federal government agencies, so that should not be this kind of despairing, except there is more to read that you don't know about. But the fact is that the guy has been sent here especially as we are clapping and just saying that there's no time for it, that there's something problem. There are still, each one, I still believe that it's not just only men and there are still some people within that agency that knows how to help men and to achieve that. I want those two to be, to be arrested and prosecuted. I, some bands were involved. Officials of the bank also invited, are they going to be prosecuted? They are just talking about men and there are some bands who are mentioned, who are put to the officials that compromise their ethics and they'll be able to join the men and they're not aware of what was really, they all should be arrested and those bank officers should also be prisoned, they should go to prison, so that the asset is there for those who also want to get in this kind of unwholesome activities. That is my own take on that. Okay, all right, let's check out the Daily Independent Newsway for this morning. Quite interesting, PNID is back on the front boner and it says federal government moves to probe Jonathan's government over PNID contract says, contract capable of undermining national economy. Let's share your thoughts on that. That's the way I read, we are interested in that, I don't know, I'm not able to verify that independently, that one billion, is it one billion dollars or one billion naira was going to be used to probe the 10 billion dollars or over 10 billion naira behind the contract scam. But I know that there was a court, one of the directors of that company, Frida Cutie, I want to be an attacker, yes, Frida Cutie to that and the chance and I don't know whether he was sentenced or not. And also that I know there's a pending court in the United Kingdom called on this issue, I don't know whether that has been disposed of again. So if federal government finds a new angle to the story, there's no end to litigation. That's what we're talking about, there's no end to litigation. When you think that litigation has been, something can come up and you'll be invited. This is a criminal in law that's criminal and civil charges. So this is criminal. So if I didn't give points of time in the course of this trial and the government come up with new revelations or what we call evidence as it went in law, then the government will just have the right to be able to continue that. I think we should quickly, as quickly as possible, call make sure that we be able to handle this as quickly as possible, disposed of it and rest of them and move on. But if there are, I read the story that since contracts capable of undermining national economy, I don't know what they mean by that. I don't know whether they mean that with that money we can revive our economy or I personally don't know. But in other countries, if the former president like his friend called them, we should be invited. We should be invited to school. Don't forget what happened to you, the G-Consumer in South Africa. There were allegations against a G-Consumer and the man was invited and refused. And the former president also. The former president of South Africa, he was invited and refused to go. The court gave a guarantee that he should be invited. He was not only invited, he was kept in prison. That is how it happens. Nobody is above the Constitution of Nigeria. So I know that if they are pushing this directive or Junata is, if they find Junata covered within any of those contracts, he should be invited. And Junata doesn't have immunity. He is now a former president. He does not have immunity. So he can be invited. He can be prosecuted. He can be jailed. That is how it happens. And that is why the Constitution, the 1999 Constitution, as amended, is the ground norm. And they say, you know, so the body is irrespective of whether by your position in society, you cannot be above the Constitution of Nigeria. So if there are any issues, they find out that he should be invited and he should be able to testify. But I think we should be able to get this wrapped up. Let us ask what happened to the NDIC group. It seems that we have gone quiet on that. I know that the report was submitted to the federal government by that group panel. And until now, a white paper has not been released. It seems that we are sitting on that. Remember the days of your mic, of your mic? They were practically off the mic. As far as that history is concerned, the mic has gone silent. So there are so many proofs and whatever that we continue to that we submit white papers and nothing we did not get to hear about it. The next U.C. government is setting up another committee to look at the reports submitted by committee and committees and committees at the end of the term. Africa magic, as it were. All right. Now, other bits of controversy here and there on the punch this morning says governors attack Malami over $418 million consultant fees, say AGF lied. Some other part where he's also mentioned, and that is with regards to the Paris Club deduction says federal government and governors in fresh battle over 172 billion hour Paris Club deductions. What are your thoughts? How do we see a substantial evidence be pushed forward by the government? Then I can just put it at the rims of speculation. Because if you take it to court, you must prove evidence. You have evidence to prove what you are saying. You are saying that AGF is compromising these terms and also siding the the contractors on this matter and this way by then is a bigger indictment. And if it could be looked at from whichever library permission, if the AGF is that even if it's in my language, we should go to suiting governors. Where for the government to come out to say this means that they have certain evidence to prove their case. But it's becoming my own. It's just reason to me that it's becoming an accusation to me for the AGF. And it's not good for his person and his offices holding. This is not the first time that we're having all this kind of politicians. Don't forget that during the MTM saga, the multi-billion MTM saga, the AGF was also fingered. You never will do that. I don't know how that, you came out to deny. During the course of the problem that my AFCC chairman, Marko Hart, the AGF was fingered and so many speculations and the rest of them. And there have been so many others and the rest of them. So anybody that sit on that seat should be sit to be a boat boat. Also keep bear in mind that he's also been mentioned with regards to the invasion of justice, Mario Dili's residence. The entity, of course. So it feels like a new controversy every two weeks for the AGF. That is it. Don't forget that the statement he made about the spare parts, spare parts dealers and he has men and rest. That's so many. This is becoming unbecoming. Let me put that in my own language. It's becoming very unbecoming of a high-ranking officer of that nature. And I think the AGF should be very careful. We say the internet doesn't forget that we feel it's office tomorrow. Most of its allegations being levied against we follow him all through his tenure and after his tenure and what the allegation about the governor's firm is a very, very rich allegation. What are you saying? What are you saying? They are conniving. That means that we are in some way, you seem to be gaining from the contractors. If you look at it from the surface, that's what you are saying. And that in itself is put a complete shade on integrity. But it stands on integrity. So if the integrity of the AGF is in question, then that's a problem. But as I said, let go of us if they are going this way. They must also bring out enough evidence to prove what they are saying. But I would like to also ask as a concern, I mean, is there no mechanism that is created to check all of these excesses? I mean, we have seen the fact that there's been several allegations, just like my colleague has mentioned. It feels like every two weeks, these are issues. Is there no mechanism to check all of this? The mechanism is the box on the table of the president, who is the Chief Executive Officer of the Niger Pills as a company. Niger Pills. That is where we have leadership deficits. The president hears all these allegations. He listened to them. He reads papers. He watches plus TV Africa. He also goes to social media and the rest of that. He's also watching this program, as it were, most likely. Even if it's not, the vice president is watching. All the new officers are watching. It is really the president to be able to say, oh, let's say, what is this? It's at the level of this allegation level that gets to you. They are all acceptable to the president. There's no other way that you can check much behavior. It's either one, through the National Assembly, through the oversight functions of the secretary. It's acting the AGF to call and answer to some of the allegations. Or, on the other hand, he's a member of the Niger Bar Association. The Niger Bar Association can also invite the AGF to answer the allegation because whatever it's doing will also have a negative effect on the bar and bench as in whichever way you look at it. So, and that is why some officers are also saying that there should be the office of the attorney general or the precinct should be separated with that of chief enforcement. With that, that office should be separated completely. So, if we separate that, then the one will be occupied probably by a politician. And the other one will be occupied by a technical guard, a West Assound lawyer, with a high level of integrity. But as it were, the AGF said to be, we used to have also one AGF that used to be so notorious. Sorry for the use of the language. In the days of Yeradwa, there used to be one guy called Andoka. I'm sure you remember his name. Yes. You remember Andoka very well. You saw what Andoka did during the time of the death of Yeradwa. He almost practically became the department president of Nigeria and was making it possible for people device president to take up office and rest of them. As you said, where is Andoka today? The mayor of that government, we never heard of Andoka again. We have never heard of that. So, what people should be careful with some of the things they do. You just think that you are in the office, you are, there's nothing can happen to you and the rest of them. At the end of it, you'll be held accountable for whatever thing you do. So that, for me, the president has the sole responsibility to make sure that the code of conduct that was signed by the ministers when they are coming in, they are there today. And the president even had the mechanism of measuring the performance of his ministers. That was also, there's not that issue. Most of what I was told, we said, if there's a minister that has not happened, get rid of him. But as I present to you that since he came in 2015, except for the last one that he just removed two ministers, I don't know why he did that. But that is where we find ourselves. Okay, you want to also quickly speak on the controversy in the Emo State House of Assembly. Emo State House of Assembly, Emo State is my state. Unfortunately, the new speaker, NNDB, is of my local government. He represents me. Obu, local government. I've been hearing a lot of study on what happened, how, let's say, six people elected and what happened. But I think it's all politics. It's the politics between the APC as a government in the Emo State and not probably that of the opposition of PDB. But there are procedures for removal of a speaker. We cannot start going through that. The constitution was very, very clear on that. We cannot just move a speaker just for the point of it. So if there are some breaches and which he, the provost, make a monster party, then his colleagues have the right to impeach him. Best to impeach him, that's also a procedure. And the number of office lawmakers that are supposed to be in Chamber are going to go. Don't forget that we have seen a lot that happened in two states. Just three days ago. Yes. So, but all well and good, I'm sure the people should start themselves. If it happens that the speaker was properly elected, congratulations to my constraints. We also see that I'm also becoming a friend of a speaker as if we are good at both bets. I'm sure that the people of Emo State will support that. But I think that it's politics playing in Emo State. And the ruling party is trying to really put on to consolidate all this power. And if there's a problem between the governor and House of Assembly, there always be issues. That means a lot of dollars. Don't forget what happened in those states. That for months, or even for years, you have to remember what happened to Governor Pasembe. And in those states of House of Assembly, if there's no harmony between the two arms of government, then progress will begin then. But I hope after that, and the people of Emo State get the rights and they move ahead with the State of Assembly so that the governance, which the governor promised, and the people, the dividends of the Emo State as it were can truly get to Emo Lights as it were. Okay, let's see if we still have time. Talk about the ruling party. The APC feels like the crisis is thickening in the APC as there's a plot to extend the APC Catechic Committee tenure. Now, following that, they're also saying that the convention may not hold in December. And this is a ruling party. 2020 is forthcoming. What do you think? APC, APC, APC. I think I mentioned it three times. APC seems to be swing from one controversy to another. But it's expected. Most of them are not going to have a government in power. They tend to get bloated by ego and the rest of them. And a lot of controversy is happening. And that is why I commend the PDP. The last convention I had by the PDP they did a very good job. Would I like it or not? Yes, most of the candidates were by concentration. But they came out smoking. And a lot of people believe that after that convention that PDP was going to blow out. They never did. Probably they blew out when they decided on the presidential candidate of the party in the next few months. I think the opposition get this together. A lot of controversies. In the last congresses they had, state congresses, they were fashion in practically all the states. Name the state. No single state that you didn't have passion. And the state of reconciliation committee. That reconciliation committee have gone to war. But it's not working. Is it in a state where you have the minister Pesto Guillermo fighting the DSB, the Deputy Senior President? Or is it because of legal purposes that you think that it's a strong vote of PDP? There are two professional chairmen put on approach. And you go to a show, so many of the states and that has already sold. And I don't know why a critical committee, that critical committee if you listen to the judgment of the Supreme Court in the case of Pondo State, that critical committee almost cost Pondo States that judgment. They say that if that critical committee have been joined in that suit that they would have lost Pondo States and that they are the best. I hope they get their ass together. But it seems that everything is pointing to 2023. Everybody is trying to see what they can grab and position themselves properly towards 2023. And that is why they are 5% where they are. But if it from my own outsider input, I would just think that the critical committee should put up the conversion, let them elect their leaders. They just have barely less than two years to put 2020 election. And they should be putting their ass together and the people want to return in power. They should also forget that their talisman, the president of the Republic of Nigeria, President Mahmood Bawari, will not be on that ballot come 2023. They have to be running points for them why they are moving. They will be moving the presidents. They don't have Bawari in 2020. I don't know what they can do to become and command a kind of respect and pull out ship that Bawari. So it is right and the country that are including the president who is a member of the party should be able to run his party run now so that they can propose 2020. All right. Chris Wendu, I think we can wrap up here. Thank you very much for your time this Tuesday morning. We'll be following up on the elections in Anambra and hopefully bring you up to speak about how it turns out at the end of today. Thank you very much for having to. Have a nice. Absolutely. Thank you for joining.