 They're good at playing the piano, which is really hard to do actually, you know, and you know, when you have all of those things You're like, okay, you were born to do this Yeah, yeah, she's amazing. She was born this way as they say Maybe she was born this way. She might have been yeah How do we feel about the Elton John movie coming up? Well, I didn't know there was one look up that trailer It was playing Elton John. It looks remember he's not someone the actor I immediately recognized But there is an Elton John biopic coming out called Rocket Man. This is a thing that's happening. I Like Bohemian Rhapsody as a music movie. I thought it was a great music movie. I thought Rami Malek did an amazing job in it I didn't think it was a great story necessarily I thought it was a fine movie. I enjoyed it mostly for the music and the and Rami's performance So I'm sure I'll enjoy Rocket Man on the same level Taryn Egerton. Yeah. Yeah, that's Elton John Welsh actor and singer Is Elton John Welsh? No But you know, whatever sure you're really low Roger Yeah Taryn is known for his roles in the British television series The Smoke Okay, and the 2014 action comedy film Kingsman the He's eggy. How's that? No, that's better. No, that's better Yeah, yeah, yeah, he also played Edward Britain in the 2014 drama film Testament of Youth Appeared in the 2015 crime thriller film legend Eddie the Eagle Edwards in the 2016 biographical film Eddie the Eagle So he's been around the block Yeah, he's got some cred. I Don't know. I just feel like man, like how do you play Elton John? Well, Elton John is still living. It's tough stuff And like do you go Sarah yes, could I get you some tapas? I know what you want perhaps some small plates of of Huawei news or I will have line three That's actually not what I was just Transition us to doing the show, but you could do that too Let me pull out a let me pull out a name for you, too How about this? I thought that's what you were going for Can I get you some tapas? I was like, I know you want you want something for me Tom. I'll do it All right, and yes, you could get me some tapas. That would be amazing. Thank you very much tech news tapas That's what we've got we have several small plates of tech news for you some of it cured meats of tech news That lady Gaga has not worn as far as we know Unworn, I mean if she did All right, yes line three, please okay We'll begin with daily tech news show in three two Jacqueline Nahama has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Jacqueline Become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the daily tech news for Monday February 25th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and I'm the shows producer Roger and Joining us today. Charlotte Henry journalist and associate editor at Mac observer comm Charlotte. Welcome back. Good to have you Thank you for having me. We have prepared several small plates of tech news from Mobile World Congress in Barcelona for you Very excited to talk about About the tech news tapas. Yeah tech news tapas coming your way. We have some cured Huawei news some pickled LG Lovely spread of Microsoft. It's all its way. Let's let's just start with a few tech things you should know Google announced it'll roll out an English version of Google assistant integration into Android messages in the coming months with a new button Appearing in the app smart replies area Google says it won't be reading users text if you're worried about that though Google's assistance own text is shared back with the company So it will know a few things about at least the queries that you were making Google spinning down its consumer texting app Allo due to sunset at the end of March Android messages will be the primary texting app afterward and will support SMS MMS and depending on your carrier or CS as well Intel CEO Bob Swan said Monday that the company's future in 5g goes beyond selling modems to device makers Intel wants to sell modems to automakers as well for use in connected vehicles and Manufacturers for used in connecting industrial equipment They want to be an infrastructure provider Intel processors and its programmable chips gained by acquiring Altera in 2016 are slated to be added into a Variety of networking gear according to Swan. He was speaking at a press conference in Palo Alto last week Lots of 5g phones have been announced at mobile world Congress Shocker will touch on a few of these later in the show But if you're just keeping track of all the 5g phones announced here is what we know so far the Huawei Mate X Which is also foldable the LG v50. Thank you 5g with hand ID That's new the Samsung Galaxy Fold and Galaxy s10 5g the gel me at me mix 3 and the ZTE Axon 10 pro 5g HD also announced a 5 inch 5g smart hub with an Android touchscreen and One plus has a 5g prototype as well. Oh, but that's not all Oppo has a foldable Phone prototype and TLC which makes phones for Alcatel and Blackberry will also watch a foldable next year So foldable 5g those are your trends out of the world Congress Speaking of 5g a paper called privacy attacks to the 4g and 5g cellular paging protocols using side channel information Will be presented by researchers from the University of Iowa at the network and distributed system security symposium in San Diego Tuesday The paper details two attacks one called torpedo lets an attacker subvert the paging protocol That lets a device know that a call or text is coming torpedo can reveal location information without your awareness Basically, the page shows up that you don't know it another attack caller piercer relies on torpedo and can be used to determine a device's International mobile subscriber identity your MZ number which can allow for stingray like tracking in real time All four major US operators are affected by the torpedo vulnerability and one carrier is vulnerable to piercer The flaws have been reported to the GSMA the cell phone industry group and a proof of concept code will not be released during the talk Because of the nature of this attack Qualcomm announced it will launch a chip set with integrated 5g modem capability in 2020 could be the follow-up chip to the snapdragon 855 although Qualcomm didn't exactly say that that was the case The company president Christiano and Maan described it as a fully integrated Mobile station modem designed to make it easier for phone makers at multiple price ranges to adopt 5g and just real quickly HMD global announced the Nokia 9 Pureview not a 5g phone, but it does have a six module camera 312 megapixel monochrome cameras to 12 megapixel RGB's in a time of flight sensor for depth sensing The camera way was developed by the company called light Which also did a 16-lens standalone camera called the L16 if you've heard of that the pure view from Nokia or the Nokia pureview from hdm-nd global actually will be produced in a limited run and sell for 599 euros. All right, that's just the fast news. Let's talk about SD cards, Sarah Let's do it the SD Association announced micro SD express using nv M1.3 and PCIe 3.1 interfaces for better power efficiency and transfer speeds of up to 985 megabits per second while maintaining full backwards compatibility This is going to be very exciting for a few folks It can also do bus mastering to connect with components without going through the CPU for faster multitasking Devices need to support the 2011 micro SD ush to standard but another SD card news micro Micron and SanDisk have both launched UHS 1.1 terabyte micro SD XC carts Western digital SanDisk car claims 160 megabits per second read write speed while micron claims 100 megabits per second but Micron has a faster 95 megabits per second write speed. I always want to say Microsoft. Sorry micron SanDisk card will be on sale in April for $449.99 Microns comes out in Q2. We don't have prices yet terabyte SD card Charlotte Whoa No, but I'm looking at my floor where there's like a brick that is a terabyte hard drive and Now there's gonna be this tiny little card. I think it's absolutely staggering. I know we shouldn't we those of us who have Always enjoyed tech and cover tech for a while should be kind of used to by now these particularly with storage things Increasing at a very rapid rate But to have a terabyte worth of memory on a little SD card is something pretty astounding I think with transfer speeds almost a terabit per second, right? Yeah Yeah This is if you put a terabyte SD card in an s10 with a terabyte on board You'd have two terabytes in your phone, which is the same amount. I have in my laptop. Yeah, I mean you wouldn't have any money No, this means $450 in the s10s a thousand plus. Yeah, yeah, but you'd you'd have a lot of storage Yeah, and it would be fast. You'd have plenty of room to enjoy the money. You don't have It's like I feel like there are there are a lot of folks who you know some of my less technical friends You know be like do I need this and and I'm like, do you need that much storage? Some people do Most people do not my answer is always yes Well, but you're not a normal person. Yeah, exactly But you know, it's it's one of the things where it's like, what is your actual workflow? What are your needs and these you know, these are the advancements that will potentially help you If you have a lot of video that you want to carry your phone or edit on your phone or something like that Photography in video was the use case that immediately came to my mind because Obviously SD cards had to be pretty flexible and work and integrated with cameras of all types So it's see to me that is the obvious use cases isn't it that you are gonna particularly if 4k and even we've seen different things at various points of 8k video are gonna be more and more common You're gonna have to have this level of storage and you're not gonna be wanting to carry around a big hard drive Like I use as my time machine back up. You're gonna want a You need a couple of these little discs that you can put put into put into your bag So it's it's a pretty astounding development actually you can lose in your back because they're my cousin also lose. Yes. Yeah Let's talk about Google Play Services adding support for the open Fido to standard If you have Android 7.0 and later devices, you'll be able to log into apps and websites with biometric data Like your fingerprint or if you don't have biometrics on your phone You can use a pin or a swipe pattern all authentication is handled locally on the device meaning apps and services will not have access to your Biometric information. They don't need it. They just need to access the Fido protocol properly That means of course the developers have to integrate Fido API support into the apps And this is something that you may have seen on your bank apps Some of the bank apps are already doing Fido support, but it's nice to have it at the Google Play Services level Yeah, I mean I use again. I've got a S8 Edge and I use like from all my banking apps. I use fingerprint login and I Mean, I put not only does it mean I don't forget passwords or have but it's obviously much more secure But I think people will be slightly skeptical of this when people here. Oh Google using my biometrics even more People are gonna freak out about it now whether they should is a different question But it's definitely gonna set off some red lights for people. I think yeah, correct And that's why it's important to understand that it's a Fido standard Which will started the Fido Alliance, but they're not the only ones in it Sure, and that this biometric data does not leave your device In fact, if you want a great explanation of how Fido works if you have questions like wait a minute That sounds like one factor authentication that can't be secure Check out Bart Bouchotte's explanation of Fido on Allison Sheridan's security bits podcast from back in April of last year We'll have a link to it in the blogger. You can search pod feet calm Bart Bouchotte's security bits Fido. It's the April 13th episode. It's a really great explanation Sony unveiled the Xperia one smartphone with a 6.5 inch 4k HDRO led display featuring a tall 21.9 aspect ratio. We were talking about Ratios before the show the phone also comes with three 12 megapixel cameras on the back side mounted fingerprint readers One anyway Snapdragon 855 processor six gigs of RAM 128 gigs of storage and water resistance the cheaper Xperia 10 and 10 plus also featured the 21.9 aspect ratio So this is kind of a new thing or at least Sony hopes that it will be no pricing was announced as of yet But the Xperia 10 and 10 plus come out March 18th and the Xperia X 12 is Expected to be out in late spring. I mean certainly it's not the first time we've seen a 21.9 aspect ratio But this is Sony making it their flagship. They're saying 21.9 is our is our big deal We've adapted our our entire Presentation to target this they're trying to tout the idea of watching widescreen movies on it That means you have to find movies that are put out digitally in the 21.9 aspect ratio Which I bet Sony knows a studio called Sony that could deliver It does seem to be I mean a lot of videos that we would commonly watch and a lot of the players Will not be using that aspect ratio. Am I right? Most right. Yeah, so I mean if you the things you want to watch on your phone are YouTube videos or Maybe you know in the UK we have the BBC iPod and there's obviously equivalents over in the US No one's gonna it's gonna be annoying for those users and people are not gonna want to do it if the phone if the Images distorted or doesn't fill up the screen properly with the black bars are gonna annoy some people. Yeah, exactly Yeah, I think that the use case that Sony made that sounds a little more reasonable to me is the idea that you could have something in Split screen on this They're gonna make it so you could have an app at the top and then down where your thumbs are an app at the bottom so maybe your messaging apps at the bottom and you're reading a Web page and you want to comment on it to somebody or something like that. Yeah, what it says I don't know if that's worth just getting this phone for them. No I mean my phone has the ability to do a split screen. I have to say it's not a function I've used that much The you know a couple times it's useful if you get like a verification email sent to you or something Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Do you know what I mean? Like you copy the password, but I mean It's a it wouldn't be a use case that would encourage me to buy a phone I'd be much more worried about pictures and watching video. Yeah And Sony still has the great camera sensors in here as well It's just that yeah, the big the big new different thing for the Xperia here is there they're getting on that Would you be happy reading on it though would that work for your reading? Yeah, I do like to read on a phone and tall is good for for reading. So yeah, maybe I don't know I want to unfold my books Let's talk about Microsoft Microsoft announced the HoloLens 2 With a 53 degree field of view so a little bit wider also adding eye tracking Adds 3d mapping of the hands so now you can grab objects in the augmented reality world instead of having to tap In the middle of the air on a virtual control Microsoft also moved the integrated computer to the back of the headset So it's a little less front heavy. They've got some carbon fiber at the front So it's a little lighter on your head and the price is now $3,500 down from 5,000 Which of course means it's still not a consumer oriented device This is still meant for the enterprise it can be bundled with Dynamics 365 remote assist for instance Microsoft will also work with third parties for specialized hardware for certain industries an example is Trimble they're making a hard hat with the HoloLens built-in So when you're out in the field doing service You can take advantage of all those service oriented things where you can show that Specialist back at base what you're looking at and they can help advise you on fixing things Microsoft also announced a companion An oldie, but a goodie the Kinect the Azure Kinect developer kit designed for enterprise offers a 1 megapixel depth camera 360 degree 7 microphone circular array 12 megabyte ray RGB camera and an orientation center And it integrates into Microsoft's cloud services like Azure AI so that organizations can build their own apps This could let you don a HoloLens and look at the same thing that the Kinect is looking at and be able to sort of Virtually interact with it and do some investigation Azure Kinect is available for pre-order for $399. So even though it's enterprise oriented It's not above a thousand However, if you're thinking okay, so HoloLens connect their enterprise products now, I get it It's not all work work work in regards to the HoloLens to app Microsoft technical fellow and HoloLens inventor Alex Kipman made three key commitments in their announcement one Developers will have the freedom to create their own stores To an open web browsing model including Mozilla making Firefox reality available for HoloLens That's the one they have for Magic Leap and three an open API surface and driver model Those all sounded great to Epic Games Tim Sweeney who's been highly critical of the closed nature of the Windows app store And he appeared Tim Sweeney appeared on stage with Microsoft to pledge Epic Games support for the HoloLens too So maybe there's hope for our consumer grade HoloLens after all I know I'm just kind of taking it all in. I I've had a I love and have had really fun experiences using consumer AR products. Yeah Like what What have we used I think I've tried the play is it the PlayStation one I've okay Avert the PlayStation VR. Yeah, I've had friends. You've had a couple of different ones and The first thing they're gonna need to do even how much they're spending is are they gonna sort out the noise? You're in all those issues which consumers still complain about right? That's the resolution and and HoloLens even though it has a narrow field of view has pretty good resolution So it's not as big of a deal for them. It's but it's been better But they've got a if they're expanding the field of vision They're gonna want to watch that and they kept the resolution high on this expanded Good should be good should be But I The first of the price just blows my mind I can't like even businesses are gonna struggle to justify Spending that much money on a product like that. Oh, yeah, not a small business product. This is this is an idea This is an oil company, you know Somebody where a few thousand dollars on the bottom is a rounding error on the yeah the quarter, right? So that which brings me to the next quick sort of thing I'm trying to process with this is what is the scale of that market? Apparently it's been pretty good Microsoft is is talking about how they're that's where they're selling all of these There's there's developers out there using them to develop games on but mostly they're finding Companies are putting them out in the field and saying yeah, we need more of these these are great And when your margin, I know you know, I don't know what the margin is But at thirty five hundred dollars Even if this thing is as expensive to create as it looks like I'm sure you're you're making a little bit of money And Microsoft may not care about margins right now They may say like we just want to get it out there so that we can then start scaling it once we bring the price down So for me the use and maybe it's just because it's the only use case I've I've had experience of is the kind of gaming field. I've done, you know, I've played a variety of games I've done the under the sea Kind of AR one which is I've done the the aliens crawling out of the wall one All of those and it's it's good fun and I think Okay, so I think in UK you can get them up fed, you know, 300 to 500 pounds in the UK And that is where I can see a kind of market the game at the gamer market in the way that I Struck I understand what you're saying that Microsoft Feel like they've got a market there in professional services and those high-end services, but That seems to be it seems to be a very expensive product for not a big enough market Well, I think it's bigger than we might think being outside the industry but also You're selling Dynamics 365 remote assist you're selling the the Azure AI Access there they're making their money off of the service contracts with that recurring subscription revenue And if the HoloLens helps get somebody in the door for dynamics that probably does make it work Yeah, well look they're obviously confident they're pushing this there and they're pushing ahead But I think it's also quite telling that they needed the consumer element up on stage with them Well, yeah, they can get Tim Sweeney up there on stage with them hell freezes over, right? Everybody's like what Tim Sweeney hates you. Hey, what is he doing up there? Exactly? Yeah smart Well LG is also in the mix Announcing two things that might be crazy might be genius Let's unpack them and decide for ourselves one is hand ID Meaning your hand is the password, which is actually what LG's tagline reads the forthcoming LG G8 phone uses its 3d sensor not only for face unlock But also to read your palms shape thickness and even vein patterns This lets you unlock the phone by holding your hand over it It can also recognize a few hand gestures to control apps The G8 has a speaker in the screen and a headphone jack as well Here's the second genius or perhaps crazy idea Coming out of an accessory for LG's first 5g phone the v50 Thank you The v50 has an update to the existing v40 platform and aside from 5g adds a larger Battery a snapdragon 855 processor and a bitter coding system the accessory is called dual screen Which attaches like a phone case and then adds a second 6.2 inch OLED display that runs off the v50's battery The dual screen adds for to multitasking can also be used as a separate keyboard or a game controller And will come initially to sprint in the coming months and eventually to Verizon over the summer The dual screen accessory will be sold internationally with no planned US release at least not now Exact pricing and release dates also not announced All right I'm gonna call the hand ID not as crazy as everyone thinks because one of the problems with facial recognition is if you Want to if you want to open the phone when it's on a tabletop next to you You have to pick it up and point it at your face I mean, I complain about this all the time base ID works really well when you're right in front of your phone Otherwise, it's the worst. So having hand ID if you can use it with face with facial recognition And if LG's facial recognition works well enough. Yeah, I've been being kind of cool in the hand gestures. No, okay, maybe maybe that's nicer The accessory display though. That's just crazy Genius crazy. I don't know all I'm thinking is battery life Well, yeah, cuz it sucks the battery off the phone Yeah, that's definitely part of it. But Tom, why do you think it's crazy? Otherwise, I mean well I don't know that there's ever been a time when I've been using my phone and thought man if I only had a second screen This would be better. It's usually oh if I were using a different device So or or maybe if I unfold my phone into a tablet that would be better But I want to go grab a second thing and plug it in so I could use it Well, and I think I think this probably yeah, I liken this a little bit to you know Someone who has a really nice desktop setup where they have two That monitors where you're like, oh, that's nice. I don't really need that but that's nice You know depending on what you're doing for a living So I can see where this comes in handy, but it probably doesn't make sense for the average person No, I'm thinking of a couple of use cases where it could be nice If you're on a train or a plane or something and you want to do an email on one screen and watch a video or something on the other All right. Yeah, that's true. I can kind of see those things But mostly for me, I if I was any of these cell phone makers, I'd be focusing on Making their battery providers make the battery be able to last eight ten twelve hours Most of the device is on heavy use for heavy users now Yeah, if that second screen had a battery that helped extend the battery life, I'd be more for it or was it charger? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know when I have to reach into my bag to get the second thing I'm just gonna pull out my laptop. I mean, that's just yeah at that point You just want your laptop or your tablet, right? Right exactly. I that's that or unless I can unfold it I mean that's sort of the question is like What is that magical device that keeps you from having to bring your laptop with you? You know like we're still at the point where we're like Still need my laptop for most of that that second that second keyboard Screen sort of thing is bad too because it's not an actual keyboard like I if I I need I need a physical keyboard still yeah All right speaking of foldables Huawei announced its foldable phone the Mate X has an 8 inch wrap around OLED display So unlike the Samsung Which has a screen on the back and you open it up to the screen? This is just your tablet screen you fold over and then the tablet screen is now two screens one on each side That's closer to what Royale was showing at CES. It ends up being 11 millimeters thick when folded So it's thinner than the galaxy fold capable of 5g has a 4500 milliamp hour battery Capacity split into two parts runs on Huawei's Kirin 980 processor And when folded it works as a dual-screen smartphone because unlike again the galaxy fold the screens on the outside 6.6 inch main display 6.4 inch rear display Has a little kind of ledge on the side. So there's no notch The cameras are are on the on the side and it does not have a rear camera When it's unfolded because that's because the way that screen works the Mate X has 8 gigabytes around 512 gigabytes of storage And we'll sell for a mere 2299 euros, which is also expensive in US dollars They're gonna start selling this in the middle of this year real quickly Huawei also announced an update to the Mate book X pro a new processor and graphics card option for up to Terabyte of storage and a Mate book 14 Which is kind of the same look as the pro but has different specs including a lower resolution screen A lot of people really like the Mate book X pro when it came out last year So people were kind of enjoying seeing an updated version of it But let's talk about the Mate X phone the foldable phone for 2299 euros Charlotte well, you know in our pre-show. I am sorry Charlotte I I made I made a joke about like the mate foldable X There's just too many porny aspects of this whole thing that I just get I can't help it sort of chuckle about it However, that it that aside it does seem I mean the specs are very nice Yeah, look, it's a well Equipped kitted out phone isn't it but the question is do you want a foldable phone? Do you need a foldable phone and do you need it 2,000 euros worth? These are the Yeah, I mean No, no for me Most people is no yeah, and I Can kind of I do like the idea. I'm kind of taking in with the idea of these foldable phones I like that you on the go would you know have it folded in and you're just texting and whatever quickly and then If you want to watch a video or something read an article Fold it out. I get that I genuinely do but I think it's it's almost like what we were saying about AR and VR Headset until you get it at a proper consumer price That people are just not gonna need it enough Yeah, I absolutely want to see if what we think is bad about it is really bad And if what we think or and what it is good at that we didn't guess So I would love to try one for research for journalism, right for for for talking about I don't think anyone should be spending this about a Money exactly you want to send me one to play with and have a look at I'd love to have a go but I Don't have a fair a spare 2,000 euros That make it worth it to me and I don't have a use case that makes it worth it that money to me Well folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Rich straffolino did the Lord's work today Boilendale Mobile World Congress to you in five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines Also, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on others and help us make our show every day daily tech news show Dot reddit dot com. 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I mean Baroque I'm I'm I'm needling Tom on how long you know that he loves the metric that badly All right, uh, tech news tapas as our We I think we need to bring in mobile world 5g and some Well, okay. Yeah, mobile Congress. All right Maybe a little you some some Yeah, okay, what do we got we got what did we get Microsoft wants to reconnect? The future is holo H. O. L. Oh Onto everybody SD card let you lose all your files at once. That's really good That's actually kind of funny, but yeah, like that's like like a scary thing that will confuse LG's hand ID could come in handy Foldable 5g really does sum up mobile world Congress foldable I'm still looking still looking got other options talk to the hand You've done that You know the whole thing just reminds me of Logan's run Put your hand. Oh, right. We've got a run. Ah The hand that feeds you LG gets a grip on phone security Yeah, I don't know. What do you think Sarah? Well, um, could we make tech news tapas? Somehow integrate with 5g we could do we could do MWC 2019 colon tech news tapas Perfect. I like it. I like that. Yeah And now I really want some tapas. Oh I love the Do with just some like Loopy or something just I had some calamata all of this with my lunch, which was not counts. Yeah, it's close That's a top item at the top. I was right. Yeah, sure. I just didn't get the delicious sardines or the ham on Iberico Do we all have to go to Barcelona now, right? Okay, so Paris then Barcelona Right. Okay. All right Yeah, Charlotte we last week we were talking about, you know, where we've all been and not been and you know Wonderful cities and why they're so great. And so yeah, it's it always comes back to food For sure. In which case you basically have to go to Italy because you have the best food, right? Good point So Paris then Barcelona than what Florence? Don't don't sell yourself short in multiple parts of Italy. We'll just do Italy. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, just yeah Just just hug the there's a train. We can you know, I Mean how bad could it be? I I've done the train from Rome to Florence and Florence to Venice not bad Quite a long train. I've done the train from Venice to Florence not to Rome. That is a long train. There's a long train Yeah, you know good part of the day. But but but fun, you know, I look at the window See in the countryside and yeah, we got there like after noon So we checked into our hotel and then went to dinner, you know Yeah, we'd left when we didn't have to leave super early in the morning It was like breakfast get on the train launch on the train. Oh, man. I mean My ideal day is oh, do I have to be in a train for 12 hours? Great Yeah, you saw Snowpiercer as a utopian movie totally. Yeah, I love a train No, I do excited for the D-10s European road trip. Right. I'm so that I like I like train rides When they're over I'm just I you're not a train person. Yeah No, I You know, it's funny because I really like the bullet train that Japan but overall I just you know, part of me is I love traveling. I just don't like that physical traveling part Hmm. You want it? You get bored? Yeah, it's just I get restless. You get antsy. Yeah. Okay. I'm like I'm like a eight-year-old but like I can't like In fact a small child I'm a 200 pound small child. He's 200 pounds and very wise. Do you get fussy? I do I get fussy in the morning like See I I want to live it on a train Like that would be I if if I if I could figure it out I would I love because you've always got different scenery. Everything you need is there And it's sort of like all the annoying things about car travel are not Like on a train. It's different feels different You know the the you can get up and move around unlike a car. Yeah, it sounds different It's it's you can do longer distances without going nuts. I don't know. I love a good train I prefer the trans matter np matter transportation device that they use in Star Trek Well, okay, roger at the other end You know what I don't have to go to space then Wait, are you trying to send me to the moon to the moon roger? That's where you want to go I mean, you know do your fun. Um, no, it's I I know not everybody loves trains It's not it's not the train bar. It's just like physically like come on. Let's get there already. You just want to be there Yeah, yeah, well the shinkansans you said the the bullet trains in japan. I mean that's yeah It's like you get some from point A to point B so quick. You're like was that like legal? Wow cutting through the country cutting through all the mountains and stuff that you dig. Yeah, I know That's really cool. See that feels like a disney ride, but like most trains like yeah Yeah, you should try out the trains here in the uk. They don't feel so much like a disney ride I I recent like uh, just a little over a year ago. Do they feel like uh, I took the disney ride of a train down, uh from sudbury Um, especially because part of it has been replaced by a bus Right because the train line had closed for part of the day What day of the week was this? Uh, it was a sunday. Of course. It was a sunday. I knew you I knew the answer to that question You knew the answer You should have messaged me. I would have told you never get a train on a sunday Well, it was one of the situations where uh, our ride back to london was Unavoidably detained by a hangover and we just wanted to get back to london, but rather than wait for him to recover Uh, which was fine. We were like totally understood. It was a wedding. So, you know, that was great But we just made the choice like yeah, we want to get back there um faster Which I think maybe we still did but Um, yeah, so why are so we took a train part ways? It wasn't your hangover. It was somewhat some unnamed hangover person I don't want to embarrass the lad. No, no, where should you? I just I was like a hangover That doesn't sound like tom. Well, it was a it was a wedding more hangover It was a wedding on a saturday night And then that person was in the wedding and of course had a hangover on sunday and was like, oh, we're probably not gonna get out Of here till a little later. I hope that you know, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. We'll just take the train back Don't worry. Don't even don't even sweat it totally. Yeah See that that would be like that would be my ideal thing where I'd be like, it's fine I'm gonna go on the train by myself So what what's the deal with the trains on sunday in britain or just that? Yeah, no, no, like Like like you just don't ever take up like you're gonna be no, no, it's a thing. That's a disaster Oh, they just pop out of existence and get replaced by buses, you know, it's like a harry potter thing But also like a lot of stuff kind of Closed like shops are not allowed to be open all day on sunday here and like they have to Have a little break Wait like the whole country or just certain towns? No, no, no like Shops there are rules on sunday trading We did make it back to london though. Oh, there you go So on the same day you left the same day we left. Yeah Well, you know, it's funny. Charlotte you mentioned the you know the sunday thing I remember as a kid. I mean I grew up in a small town in the u.s in california, but um, it was Until I was probably in high school. It was like it was known that on sunday is just nothing was open Right And and gradually over time things became open You know where where now you're like you're like weirded out when something's not open on sunday like why not? But maybe in the uk that's you know a holdover. That's that's you know, we have we still have laws about it Like it's actual laws Yeah, we've had a lot of those laws repealed, but most of those laws are local So it still varies you you still end up in a part of the country in the u.s. Where they'll be like, oh, they still have Yeah And literally I live next to like two huge supermarkets on a sunday. No Yeah, we uh We have the weird rant like you never know who's closed on easter anymore Because it used when I was growing up pretty much ever been closed on easter because it was a sunday But right but with the sunday thing kind of lessening and lessening now Some businesses close on easter and give their employees the day off Others don't and you just don't know. Yeah Well, are these businesses that are open on christmas like restaurants? Yeah Well, I don't know if they're open on christmas almost everything closes on christmas. But yeah, my my local natural grocery market happens to be run by Mormons and they're closed every sunday, which is in and out is one that closes on easter And christmas too, but are they mormon? No in and out was Yeah, yeah, no in and out was started by mormons. Oh, oh really really? I think it's still on by Yeah, okay. Well, I mean not I mean, I don't I don't mean Like but um, yeah, so my local place is I mean, it's a great grocery store They're just closed on sundays. They're closed, you know, and to the point where I'm like, you're losing so much business Like, how are you closed on sunday? What cost would they get that business? That's my day of you know, going to the yeah It's a it's a it's a um, it's a mormon thing Well, it's not just a mormon thing. It's there's a lot of No, no, no this particular grocery store is that's what but it's not like those are the only No, no, no, no, no, no certainly not Which is particularly weird about it. Yeah, well, that's why you go out for chinese Well, that's the christmas story that's christmas That's the movie the movie created that so much chinese food on christmas I can't even tell you a holiday story if you it was a holiday when I was going up you went to a chinese restaurant We would always they would always be open except for chinese new year That is true Christmas yeah, chinese on christmas. Well folks We are going to say goodbye to our video now so that you can all go eat But audio folks you stick around you have to stay hungry. There's more to come