 Go see make sure you know Richard themes in there for your like the crypto zoologist of the DEF CON world Always worth seeing Richard theme All I want to do is engage with life in a way that continues to energize and vitalize myself and Contributes to others as well as to myself So there's a reciprocal feedback loop of energy and ongoing growth and real transformation that we both experience or all experience in Our lives, so I hope that will happen but at the same time I have no Expectations that it will happen and it really helps to have zero Expectations about a situation because you're contributing from ground zero out of nothing out of nothing to nothing Its value is the intrinsic value of the transaction itself Have we derived value or pleasure or something from this and if we have shake hands and go home Do I hope it's part of it part of this whole transformational engine that is reshaping society Civilization and I might have some influence on somebody somehow for the good You hope so but you don't expect to Because life is short for humans as landmambles go we're not Galapagos tortoises and it goes fast and it's fragile And it's precious and it goes into the abyss And there's no evidence that it goes anywhere else now Maybe there's persistence of self and memory which is what we mean by being alive again or more or still But nobody knows and so while you have the moment of vitality and possibility you seize it Because you're not going to have it forever and when you get older as I have You know you're not going to have it for very long at all So it's the richness of the experience itself that you hope will contribute something of value But you don't have too many illusions. How many people from the 13th century? How many of those names do you know? None, maybe two or three Kings Who contributed what to who you don't know but you want to contribute something positive into the energy the Stream of history so that from generation to generation if it means anything at all you didn't live in vain That you seize the opportunity you had while alive to do the maximum the way Shaw put it was It's no brief candle that I've got for a few moments It's a bright burning torch and I want it to burn as brightly as possible Before I pass it on to the next generation. I want to be all used up when I die. He said and Me too Nothing left over