 When you're born and raised around horses and cattle, so you know exactly what goes into the training of horses, tell me what's one of the biggest myths about bits and bridles? The biggest one is that low ports and snaffles are kind. But this is as soft as you can get it because where the severity comes in a bridle bit is the transition between the port and the bar. The longer this radius is, the softer that it is and the reason that it's got a pitch to it that it looks like a V, if this runs straight up it would be too close to their teeth, you'd pull it over and then clack their tooth. So in general, because there's always exceptions to everything, it's going to be, regardless. But 99% of them, this is going to clear the roof of their mouth. So you look at that and see this is the roof of his mouth, it's going to miss it. The last thing we want it to do is brush it. We either want it to lay up in there or we want it to miss it completely. So I've got to have rules. So mine are from the bottom of this to the top of this, two inches, and the lowest then whenever I go up, the top will be two and three quarters. If we go to something like this, this is going to lay up there. It's going to, I really want it to lay in the roof of his mouth. I really want it to touch. I don't want it doing that because that probably is mouth open and give you a bad time. And this is an extremely soft bottle. And people say you're nuts, you don't know what you're talking about, but it comes right back to this. See how long that radius is? Tongue relief. And now, and you can pull it left and right and that's not going to hang on his bar. This is the way, if I can show you, if you're looking at my hand that's the way his tongue would be. This is his bar, his tongue's above it. So we want that to go over it. We don't want it to hang if we're being kind. Well Mike, you were asking about earlier, 9 out of 10 people would say this is the same bit. Right? Yep. This bit is way more severe than this bit. 100 percent. And then close wide. This transition. Look at the tongue. Look what lays on the tongue. Okay Grant, so you've gone through, how long would you have a snaffle I guess on your two-year-olds before you started looking at changing? I pretty much, there's different types of snaffles, but I'll leave them on their whole two-year-old year. We'll start them in a smooth snaffle and this, we've got to think of a name for this. Ported D. Ported D, there you go. And that's what we work them in is two-year-olds. This and your regular smooth snaffle. As if some of them get a little stiffer and stuff like that, I'll use, what I'm saying is the concepts are the same. Well horses are the same. Horses are the same. People are different. I take it from the horses' point of view because they're consistent. If you hurt the edge of his tongue, if your hands are fast, if you put a snaffle on him, if you are thinking about it like this, you just got to go from your mind to your hand, from your hand to his face, from his face to his mind, from his mind to his body. That's a long ways. The more you can do this, the better off you are. But everybody has a tendency to do that. It's a bad business.