 Hey everyone how's it going welcome to a little impromptu another Nintendo Prime podcast discussion video because today you're not listening to this technically today you're listening to it over the weekend but today was the dropping of the Pokemon showcase otherwise known as people calling it Pokemon direct because for some reason they think Pokemon direct is easier to say than Pokemon showcase I think it just leads to people used to Nintendo directs to be completely honest Pokemon presents yeah maybe it's Pokemon presents pretty sure it's Pokemon presents either way either way the point the point is I don't really know why direct sounds easier to say I think it's just a we're conditioned ourselves to it just like state of play and just like I don't even remember Xboxes it's been so long since we've had one of the Xbox ones happen which by the way there's supposed to be an Xbox one happening in March I guess after the Bethesda deals finalized so we'll see what happens most people were kind of underwhelmed by the state of play of course most people also underwhelmed by the Nintendo direct and some people are underwhelmed by the Pokemon presents or showcase or whatever it was called so we have three big announcements in the Pokemon presents well that really three there was okay so it started off by just basically showing us outside of doing its little recap of Pokemon history which is out yeah it's cool you know there's some nostalgia in there I think for anyone who's ever touched Pokemon new Pokemon snap we got some more info on that I think the biggest thing we learned is that there's gonna be online leaderboards which I think is pretty cool yeah because it's all you know Pokemon stuff so we'll get in the best shot and being able to know now we have additional things that we can make the Pokemon shine we can feed them different things to try to get them to do tricks and different stuff to get like the best shots and get the best rankings as you're trying to you know get the best shots of every Pokemon in the game I think that's really cool I think I've been excited for new Pokemon snap ever since it went into development and it was showing off any thoughts on Pokemon snap I thought it looked good my favorite part of that of the child and we were waiting for a new Pokemon snap forever I found out it's being made by Bandai Napko which is really interesting because Bandai Napko has been on fire with everything they've touched this Nintendo except of course for Metroid Prime which got moved away from them because apparently they weren't doing such a good job with that but Bandai Napko has worked on like three different Smash Bros games now and like dude they're quickly becoming practically a second party developer for Nintendo at this point good for them considering Sony is basically abandoned Japan but more on that in a different video yeah um okay so I don't think we really have much to talk about with that game other than it's awesome it's exciting are you picking it up come in 430 and an end of not next month with the month after so a couple months from now maybe I don't know well you haven't had one since the n64 no I haven't and it does look cool it does look cool um but I yeah should wait for breath a while too yeah pretty much no no I'll probably end up watching you play it for a while and then seeing how it is and sure and then probably pick possibly picking it up from there I don't know okay it's it looks cool it's a Pokemon snap game it yeah it's probably really have much to say about like we're both it looks really good like we have nothing negative to say about the new Pokemon snap it just looks good is it's is that its own region I can't remember it's I can't remember they announced what region it was but yeah enough of a polka expert yeah yeah it's it's like a oh god it was something I know it started with an L uh why laneru oh wait that's Zelda yeah right um so after that they hit us with a bunch of like 25th celebration things are doing in all the current games Sword and Shield all the mobile games uh what I liked about this section of it is that they zoomed through it like they didn't spend a lot of time on any of it because I think they knew people were here for new announcements and they're like hey look not everyone watching cares about the mobile games uh it was interesting when Magikarp Jump came on I got a good chuckle it's a that phone game where they they just call the jumping game I'm like it's got a name you know it's called Magikarp Jump it's not just called jumping game but maybe in Japan it is I have no idea yeah um so I thought that was kind of funny watching them like oh we got 25th celebration items in jumping game I'm like yeah that's Magikarp Jump I have that on my phone I know what that is yeah it's one of the stupidest games I think I've ever played but it exists it's real um anyways so they went through a whole bunch of different of the pokemon updates which was fine it is the 25th anniversary celebration so okay cool you're gonna do a bunch of stuff like that it was interesting to see like oh is it Zepto Sardikunos and uh Mewtwo and uh was it Charizard as some of the main uh uh raid battles in Gono and Gono yep nice yep so that was that was pretty cool so there there's some cool things they're doing but they kind of zoomed through it because they I think they knew most people are like okay yeah you're gonna either if you have those games you'll get the updates in those games that tell you about it if you care everyone's waiting for the new stuff and they didn't take long to get to it first off we got up we got our Sinnoh remakes everyone we got our gen four pokemon remakes or remasterings I don't know you want to call them yeah uh it's like I don't even remember the names it's Shining Pearl and like Dazzling Diamond or something I'm listening Diamond I I don't know I'll throw it up on screen I'll throw it up we're bad no we're not bad no no no no no stop no no no it's something to do with being pokemon fans we're not bad because that's all little we're probably impressed by what they're doing that we don't care to remember what it's called I'll give you that one it's gen four okay gen four I still played pokemon and gen four I still play diamond and pearl but here's the thing I don't have as big an issue with this game as a lot of people do I think people were hoping for something that this game was never going to be I think they wanted this game to be using the sword and shield engine and just fully of like a full on remake ground up yeah they didn't they links awakening it yeah look at what they did with links awakening the team that the team behind that Grezzo like they went with Unreal Engine 4 and technically they remade it from the ground up but it's basically just the same game with a fresh coat of paint and that's what they're doing here the chibi art style kind of fits with pokemon yeah it doesn't bother me and you know people were putting up comparison oh it doesn't look as good as let's go I'm like well okay you are bitching about let's go when it came though and now you're saying let's go is what you want them to do no we want it to just visually look like let's go not gameplay wise and honestly but I I here's the thing okay you know what are your thoughts what you thought honestly I thought it looked better than sword and shield I know some of the some of the like the zoomed in shots of sword and shield the graphics were terrible yeah they were the shadings were just godawful yeah and these ones it looked a little bit more polished well this thing here's the thing there's lower expectations for the way that they did this it's basically the original game with updated visuals they didn't try to go with different perspective they didn't try to do anything hot with this or anything special it's an outside team making it it's not game freak so that's something to remember as well game freak did let's go game freak did sword and shield they did not do this game they hired an outside studio which is exactly what Nintendo did with Link's Awakening they hired an outside studio granted it's a studio that's been working with Zelda for a while but it was interesting one to see the Pokemon company trust the outside studio that's they never trust outside studios with the main games yeah and two I think for what it is it's fine they're gonna charge 60 bucks a pop but they did it for mystery dungeon so they're gonna do it for this that's just what the Pokemon company does they always charge max price so I'm okay with these as they are I actually don't think they look good and if nothing else it actually kind of makes me want to play it more than sword and shield I still haven't played sword and shield so I kind of want to play these instead of sword and shield I almost think these might be just better overall games than sword and shield definitely possible I mean sword and shield has its advantages the wild area is great little open world area in the in the game but I like this is classic Pokemon made to look good on an hd tv or made to look decent anyways and I'm okay with that actually I'm surprisingly okay with it but there's a reason I'm okay with it so I'm assuming you're not going to get these these games at all because I mean Pokemon staff is the thing you're most excited for and you're still not sold 100% I'm picking it up yeah so I've I've just kind of fallen and that's good that's good that you've fallen out of Pokemon because so have I but then we got legends ever since I was a kid I wanted an open world Pokemon game oh for sure I've been waiting for this this has been like a 25 year in the making why haven't they done this ages ago and so the they followed up the announcement by saying hey by the way we have more going on in the same region and it's a brand new really ambitious game this is why an outside company did those games because Game Freak was working on this they're working on an open world Pokemon game now look it doesn't look the greatest I'll admit right now visually it's not very pretty for now I mean granted they did say not actual gameplay yeah so which actually makes it worse because how do you not have well not actual gameplay but you're showing what looks like gameplay right and it was kind of chugging in some spots it wasn't running at a smooth frame rate so it's like do they just tag it with not actually gameplay just so they can get away with it I think the not actual gameplay thing is literally just like a hey we know this looks and runs like shit yeah we don't want you to think that's possible run at the end so and by the way we're going to see the game plenty more before it comes out so I'm sure closer to launch it'll look better it's interesting too because I put up a video theorizing that this is actually part of another reason that switch pro is going to be happening sometime in the next 20 months if not sooner because this game looks like it needs a switch bro to really realize itself and obviously Splatoon 3 looked really great in comparison to prior Splatoon games Breath of the Wild 2 we know is coming out and had struggled with 30 FPS in the last game so if they want to go 30 or higher go to 60 they need more power so it kind of feels like we have a slate of massive games coming that would be really great to push new hardware with now sure now we're not here to top of the new hardware I just I I'm getting always getting the new Pokemon snap I'm not sure on the Sinnoh remakes however I'm leaning towards getting them if I enjoy snap enough because I think snap is like the game that'll really get me to the gateway back into Pokemon I thought Sword and Shield would be and we played it at E3 and I really wasn't that impressed yeah so even though I plan to play that and see and a lot of people are like oh good thing you skipped that one wait for the good one okay well the good one's coming to me open world Pokemon it's coming early 2020 2022 2022 like yes so look I don't watch that trailer and think man I really want to play Pokemon but I watch that trailer and I go game freak is finally doing the one thing I've been asking them to do take a frickin risk yeah no for sure and I even call this a new gen they're literally just taking a risk yeah and it's a massive risk that they're hoping pays off like Breath of the Wild to the point that there are shots in this game that are one-to-one recreations of the exact same trailer shots they did in Breath of the Wild trailers nice you they literally are not shying away from the fact Breath of the Wild inspired them and now there's all these stories going on that this might be the Breath of the Wild Pokemon game we're like this is the game that finally revolutionizes and changes Pokemon into what we always dreamed it could be oh yeah for sure because the anime series feels like this massive open world thing why doesn't the games feel that way yeah no for sure while they've been doing linear and they gave us a little tease and sword and here's okay so I can almost forgive that the visuals aren't the prettiest that the animations are kind of rough on some of the Pokemon and actually kind of like not fully working there was one Pokemon that threw a Pokeball at where the guy was going like this no the camera did not freeze there that's what happened in the footage yeah the character was running and was kind of like but again it's a year out you said it wasn't gameplay although it's probably gameplay just not running on a switch right or it is right which is not optimized gameplay it's not actually I'm not going basically I'm giving game freak which by the way people don't think which is crazy for the doubt the people I agree that like maybe they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt but to me they're doing what I've always asked them to do and they've never done a game like this before that's this ambitious I need to let them grow into it if it still looks the same way a month before launch then I'll start having some major concerns right but until then I'm going to give them benefit of the doubt that over the next year they can make some big strides and since they're clearly taking inspiration from Zelda can't tell me that Nintendo is not on the phone talking with them trying to help them figure out how to make this open world work maybe you know Nintendo's offering offering monolith soft or something else in there to maybe just help guide them a little bit towards making like how how did how did they get Breath of the Wild to run so well and while here talk to them and so let's get this because Nintendo is gonna want this game to do well because think about it a Pokemon Sword and Shield sold 20 million and they're going to Breath of the Wild Pokemon yeah I mean if they do it right are we talking 40 50 60 million seller potentially yeah if they do it right yeah for sure so that's a big Pokemon it's just that much bigger than Zelda so what did Zelda do again uh has done uh well on switch alone it's at 21 if you include Wii U it's at 23 okay the best selling Zelda game before that was 8 million holy Christ so when you say Breath of the Wild the game it's not just ever it's about it's about making it more popular than it's ever been okay yep right right right and Pokemon Sword and Shield which was a really popular Pokemon game sold 20 million well I mean what's one that revolutionizes everything right that pulls it off and that's a big thing I don't know if they're gonna pull it off but for now I am tepidly excited that they're trying this is what I wanted them to do with Sword and Shield that was one of the things that I did enjoy about the presents um honestly this game yet like you said is exactly what Pokemon should have been a long time ago a long time ago where it they don't take away your immersion you can just throw a Pokeball at a Pokemon you don't have to battle just like in the anime series just like in real life I mean if you were ever to be in real life in Pokemon go you could just throw the Pokemon it might not it might not be the smartest thing to do right away you could throw it you can do it and see if you can catch them no for sure and whenever you battle a Pokemon it doesn't take you to a battle screen you battle it right there in the world why it seems like it's kind of a battle thing because there's still turns it looks like well no right but like they're not leaving you're not leaving you're not being pulled away into a battle screen that we are aware that we that looked at least it looked like it was just happening almost organically actually what would be kind of cool is if you're battling one and another one steps in that would be cool you never know yeah right right we didn't see that I think I think it's I think they have a lot of ambition and a lot of ideas here they are making it so it seems like this is an actual real life world now that's what I want not a game granted they said it's only the Sinnoh stuff so it's like a section of Pokemon that's okay that's what this works think about how many sections of Pokemon games and they can make future to be completely honest to me one of the biggest mistakes that Game Freak made was trying to tie all of the games together keeping the Pokemon going through to the next generation the next generation the next generation that's to me though I personally because we grew up with gotta catch them all and now it's so many Pokemon that it's just to a certain extent almost impossible to be fair if you never stop playing you're just catching the new ones from that current generation you bring all your old ones with you if you never stopped playing Pokemon when they bring out new games you already have the prior 500 because you already caught them in the prior games and you carry them over so now you're just catching the new ones so technically it's kind of your fault in a sense my fault too for we stepped away so when we came back in it's like so overwhelming when really everyone that's stuck with it all these years from kid to now they're not catching they don't have to catch 700 a thousand Pokemon they only have to catch the 120 new ones yeah so that's partially on us for falling out of the game it is but and technically the Pokemon company went away from the gotta catch them all thing brought it back but let's go but in in reality they know it's well one in Sword and Shield you can't they don't allow it and that's actually one of the controversy to Sword and Shield is that hey you can't bring all your Pokemon you can't have them all anymore and I'm sure that's gonna be true in this game but in this game I feel it's completely separate it's gonna be separate this is open where you want to carry into your Pokemon it's completely it's like rebooting the franchise almost to a certain extent yeah what it kind of feels like yeah I mean because there's nothing like it right there's no Pokemon game I mean maybe some fan games but there's no real Pokemon official game like it until now so I have a feeling that no one should really expect to carry Pokemon into it right now I don't know what they're gonna do with the Sinnoh remix how that's gonna work if you can carry Pokemon into that or not I don't know prior remakes you could we'll see on this one because the Pokemon companies I handle it themselves so that's something to consider as well whenever they decide to talk about that but so you can admit that okay this is like what we've been asking yeah for a long time for sure and yet you're still not really excited about it now yes you fell out of love with Pokemon yeah but not even what you wanted them to do bring back a hinge of like oh no no for sure it the the going through the nostalgia part of that that presents it it did bring a little bit of like okay this is oh yeah I remember that heck yeah I remember doing that let's do this yeah this is great and then you gotta kind of it just kind of to me it just all of a sudden it's like all right more of the same stuff more of the same stuff I mean at the beginning yeah yeah no but new generation generations of gamers but again yeah right but the game it's the games again it just kept remind as they kept going along it's reminding me oh yeah more of the same stuff oh yeah more of the same but this isn't more of this oh yeah but no but now but that was at the beginning of it yeah yeah now that when we got to that part that was probably one of the outside of the Pokemon snap stuff well that was only like three big announcements in this whole thing so right and I'll touch on that later but um uh to me that was the next best thing or they were equal and I did kind of get excited a little bit for it and the moment the character ran out of the town and I was like okay we saw this in Sword and Shield wild area um no that's like an entire world that character just dove in the grass and threw a Pokeball at a while Pokemon right I literally lost it on stream I'm like no yeah this is not happening like I couldn't even build the I'm like where's the catch where's the other shoe gonna fall yeah this is like a mobile game right like isn't really as open or as big as you think like when's the other shoe gonna drop and it just didn't it just kept going and then it just started doing the pan shot like Breath of the Wild with the character running up the hill and I'm like yeah what is okay they're literally trying to get Zelda fans to get the hell over here now yeah like they are they just they're literally just announcing this is our breath of the wild believe in us even though we know maybe it's not the most perfect presentation for it we are doing that ambitious thing you've always wanted see you next year and it's like mmm I can't help we get even though I didn't even recognize because I've been out of Pokemon for so long I didn't even recognize how the Pokemon they were catching I didn't I didn't care to bring them all bow a thousand and I don't give a this is open world Pokemon yeah yeah like the inner child in me my inner love for Pokemon instantly came back because it felt like this is why I left Pokemon it didn't evolve right which is ironic considering the evolution is part of this didn't it didn't evolve and now this did this is the evolution I wanted to happen a decade ago I think I've been slapped one too many times by game freak to kind of go a lot of people have you know a lot of people feel that way I'm gonna get this I'm gonna get this you know 100% gonna get this again this is kind of one of those I'm gonna step back look at it you know it's one of those it's too good it's almost like you were saying where's the butt and I'm not but even though I was excited for Zelda your excitement really started after you played the demo oh yeah and that's so like I remember we were well I can't remember who which one is play I think I played it first and you were recording footage yep and then you played it after and I just remember looking at your face because you were already enjoying watching me play then you picked up and started playing and literally the moment like you took out a Boko plan and you broke and you broke your stick and you're like what the heck oh I was sniping I was sniping with the and like you had this the bone arrow in your face and I'm and I'm like Eric loves this game holy shit yeah Eric doesn't fall in love with games like this anymore holy shit yeah right and I think that's the thing with this game is I don't know if we could trust the Pokemon company to do it but they need to demo this game yeah for sure if they demo this and and hype it the way Breath of the Wild was I'm telling you guys that if they don't demo it it's gonna make me feel like there's a catch and not a demo like Sword and Shield demo no no no no no no like no I mean legit give you a section of the world and let you do what you write and if it works and if everything is as amazing as we hope because here's the thing they've never done open world before so I don't know what to expect like in Zelda you can like they'll have they'll be collectibles they'll be they'll find a way to put mini dungeons in which I guess they did with shrines or whatever like there'll be something that you can discover well we only really saw them discovering Pokemon which is fine absolutely but what else is in this big world we don't know because they've never had never ever get this anywhere like there's the wilds with the wilds just Pokemon right really wasn't that big of an area in Sword and Shield so you can have more time I mean you have the towns that you know I don't even know if there's gonna be more towns because I said well this because I said this town's your home base I'm like well right everything stemmed from that town right I don't know are the other towns from the game in there I don't know okay our gyms part of this right you know we don't know battling is part of it we know that you can battle other people and you can battle Pokemon so we know that battles aren't gone you're capturing Pokemon obviously obviously it's got the legendary Arceus involved in it so there's that as well so that's really cool that must be like the pinnacle of this game is like catching him in the single-player mode or whatever yeah and that's that's cool like that's always been like an exciting thing to catch that the big legendary you know just like back in the day with you to immune like that was like the big deal catch the big legendary that that's that's one of the highlights of the whole game I'm just very curious like what else are they gonna add in this world to flesh it out beyond the catching Pokemon which is a massive thing but what else right no for sure I mean you'll discover HMS and TM I'm sure why they get it but they did a good job teasing this game oh I think they teased it in the way Breath of the Wild was teased right and that it does make you want it does make you want it's no more and that's the good part I feel like they took the bar and set it to a thousand mm-hmm and nobody trusts gamefreak to hit that you're right see the Zelda team has had some aces in the hole even if that people feel like they didn't have a very good one or haven't had a true open role one since the first out the very first one back in the 80s but here's the thing at least the Zelda team has had critically best-selling top tier-rated games whereas the Pokemon company games the Pokemon games always seem to settle in in those nice 70s and 80s they just sit there and they just kind of eat up sales and do really well and they kind of rest on their laurels and I know die hard Pokemon fans will tell me what all the different changes they've done if you're really in the story should tell me all about Dynamaxing you know that's great they have made some changes here and there absolutely was so I like some I don't like but the bottom line is at the end of the day when you slap sword and shield in it feels based on what I played anyways like any other Pokemon game that I played which isn't a bad thing but when you're 25 years in sometimes you need something different and this is where Nintendo has been really good at innovating with this over the years with their games is all the games have always felt a little different each iteration is a little bit different and when they do get to see me that's exactly when Nintendo changes is up now with the wild I have no idea when they find the job if worthwhile the two to also sells 20 million plus I don't think they're going away from it or two or three games it's all stop selling I think they're just going to beat that that horse right which is fine with me but right no for sure but like even Mario you know Mario has been drastically different like Mario Galaxy is so different from every game before Mario 64 so the sunshine was completely different vastly different mechanics happy and in my honesty never had anything like that in a Mario game before who knew it could be so creative with Cappy in that way you know where it feels like there's less power-ups but they're just different and they're different in a way that you've never experienced in a Mario game before like awesome I mean like Nintendo has gotten to same me sometimes it's new Super Mario Brothers new Super Mario Brothers their naming convention could reuse a little bit of work but like that series of new Super Mario Brothers was like the same game over and over again like three four games in a row and guess what Nintendo stopped making them because people got bored of it yeah and honestly like that naming convention kind of carried over in the Pokemon snap new Pokemon snap oh come on be original that is original who what other companies using new the beginning of their games oh new Super Mario Brothers you know just wait someone's gonna know I said a different company someone's gonna be like well new super lucky still yeah so we already know from one of their people addy3 told us Nintendo gave him that name yeah they couldn't think of what to call it because it was they felt there was enough different from the first game that it's kind of sort of a new game but also it's still the original game we don't know what to do it and then I was like how about new how about new and then that's what they went with so it's like it technically that new new super lucky tail that was from Nintendo as well yeah it's but everything they put new on seems to sell yeah I mean I can't new new 3ds no popular 3ds yeah I know but if they call this next switch the new Nintendo switch yeah you think I mean it feels crazy because by the time the new Nintendo switch comes out this current switch might be at 100 million yeah no I don't if they keep this thing going another eight years maybe that switch hits 100 million yeah who the hell knows maybe not they didn't make it iterative and they don't actually launch a new gen it's just iterative replacements every three four years yeah no for sure knows yeah you know family of systems this could be the greatest selling family of systems of all time if they never technically give us a new gen for the next 10 years right no you're not wrong I mean if they want to beat I mean here's the thing the crazy thing is if they keep the sales going remember they're at the midway point yeah four or five more years that potentially could be like another hundred million sales and you're looking at 200 plus million selling system which is just unheard of yeah nobody thinks ps2 is touchable except Nintendo yeah yeah no for sure and they own Japan right now so yeah yeah they know they can squeeze like probably another 10 12 20 million sales out of the Japanese audience in the next five years yeah so okay so new pokemon steps on maybe for you yep you're gonna watch me play first make your decision from there yep uh the gen four remakes you probably didn't really play much in gen four back in the day I think I stopped you don't have the nostalgia for it I really kind of even stopped after red and blue got a little bit of yellow little bit of gold silver you play gold silver a little bit I didn't own it yeah well we played it but we played it we played it no but I don't remember you playing anything after that no I stopped at black white I did own I think you bought one you bought yeah and um we got the 3ds yep I bought x y you picked up x y I think and I picked up the other one yep and then I think did I buy one more I think there was one more that I bought too but I don't remember this is obviously this is so important to me that I remembered sorry to for all the pokemon fans out there I I just it to me it just kind of well this is but this is the this is what makes us different most people talking about this will be people who love pokemon were people that well when we were kids we loved it and I guess you can say we grew out of it um and you know I usually say you can't grow out of games but this is kind of a game series where it's like yeah it just felt too samey after a while and we're like hey you know what we're ready for something different um and and now that difference is here now my interest is definitely peaked uh your interest is present when it used to not be yeah not the interest oh I'm gonna buy it the interest is I raised an eyebrow yeah it's like hmm okay yeah but still this is game freak and game freak has consistently done things that have let people down right so it's like but at the same point how much of that was the pokemon company and the crazy schedule they put on game freak and because the pokemon company is very fine-tuned controlling everything yeah games like anime yeah all the you can't delay games can't this you can't that right well this game literally has nothing to do with the anime as far as we're aware this is just bring it afterwards unless they create an anime to go along with it but as far as we're this game has nothing to do with any current plans for the anime series which is like okay you're letting game freak potentially make you can game everyone's wanted because you want to see I think no here's what I think happened now again they might have an animated series ends up going along with it eventually you could also argue though that they've already had it because it's a re it's a kind of a senile regionish tangent sure and they had they had the I'm pretty sure pretty much on all of the all the gents have had an anime series with it so my thing is I think what happened is there's been a way that the game freak and pokemon company have lined up all the games all these years all right then they saw that nintendo made breath of the wild as big as pokemon which nobody thought was possible and the pokemon company step back after they saw all these sales and they said okay so we got to finish our current plans let's go pokemon sword gil but look what happened when nintendo took the reins off what if we did that okay like yeah we we love our consistent 10 to 15 million sales but what if we took the reins off stop trying to force the games to connect with the series all the time let game freak make the game of their dreams what happens if that thing can blow up like are we been holding back like nintendo apparently has been holding back zelda all these years by not letting it be all it could be have they been holding back pokemon to the point where it can be a 40 it can be it can be a gta 5 selling 80 million copies yeah if they stop holding back yeah and stop trying to keep it on this such a strict development schedule that like i don't even care if it gets delayed out of 2022 good that's a new thing for pokemon we don't delay games in pokemon so because the late i'll be like oh my god they're actually doing it right they're not forcing the game out when it's not ready yeah this is i for sure i don't oh i'm so but again pokemon company and game freak have not done enough to earn this level of faith right but it's just we also never thought that we would see this in our lifetime and i am also a cynical person so you know what i mean that's fine yeah so it's kind of one of those things that it i think it all depends on what you're into though it's got a mr cynical over here was so pumped for that final fantasy crystal chronicles remake remastering all pumped and i was like yeah i don't know they're gonna probably mess this up and they messed it up they messed it up so it's like you weren't cynical about that see you're not cynical about things you love you know as an example if they announce hey we're gonna do a full remake ground up of mario 64 you're like you're gonna want to buy in it yeah but then what happens when they mess it up yeah yeah so right now the zelda teams earned your faith for now yeah till they mess it up with rest of our two yeah for sure i don't think it's possible but i mean it you never know for now i just gotta get you to beat the game before the second game but hey no release day it's not here yet and you can literally guys it's breath of the wild he can walk in and beat the game anytime i'm literally there yeah he can literally beat the game anytime he wants i kind of like doing no i just like doing side quests so what that's okay that's the thing about breath of the wild so great you don't have to rush to do anything yeah play it at your pace and play it forever yeah all right folks that's gonna do it thank you guys so much for tuning into this really unique discussion hopefully you guys are enjoying these kind of mini podcasts that we throw it together every now and then when an event happens that's a little bit too far away from the next podcast so we'll probably have different topics for the podcast then so we want to get this discussion out to you guys eric actually had a lot to say this time so that's also awesome i actually have more to say but what do you got hold on hold on whoa stop the press eric the floor is yours well no go what is what is the first thing that i actually texted you i have no idea you know how busy i am during the day you know many videos i have an editing right now yeah i barely check the phone when julia texts me and she's my fiance and lizard me and it's the mother of my children no i know but so you know on the priority listing me reading your text messages i'm aware you texted me about pokemon and that's about it yeah no i'm gonna preface this saying i was at work when i watched it okay but to me the presence the presentation was a little underwhelming okay to be completely honest you had three major things okay one of which was a remake come on but i mean i'm not i'm not saying remakes are bad but come on what were you expecting what were you expecting give us a new stadium give us a new trading card game give us something new isn't that what they did with legends they did and trust me but when it's an anniversary you're building this hype to me a remake is something that can be announced it you know as a partial not like eight minutes out of the half hour and that could be focused on five minutes we're remaking this fantastic we're here's three new games we're giving to you let's focus on these you know type of thing that's why i thought it was a little bit underwhelming well they did do it in less than five minutes but there was eight minutes of like uh going through the history of pokemon well you're not wrong and they spent five minutes on snap anyways you're not wrong but to me that's why it felt a little bit underwhelming because i thought there'd be a lot more new things and it just so your expectations were a little high it's a 25th anniversary is this is the what the first major major anniversary that we're celebrating 20th 20th the celebrate 25th oh they did celebrate 20th okay but you know this is a it's a core it's a quarter of a century big core of a century it's a quarter of a century just call it a quarter of a century right it's a big deal yeah it is it is which is why i was expecting more more okay so i'll preface why i didn't have that well this is maybe comes because i pay attention more my expectations weren't that high because one we've already like there was rumors in league's galore that we were getting gen 4 remakes so i expected to see those and i knew those were going to be the big pokemon games this year because the years of remake though that's the big game um we already had new pokemon snap you can argue that's your stadium because they just probably announced it and the pokemon company basically only has one or two games and the works at a time that are like big deal game like a new stadium or coliseum that requires a massive team their massive teams are making legends it's like asking it's like getting upset at the zelda team because they're making Breath of the Wild 2 and we just got an hg scabbard sword that's it i mean i'm not happy about it but but it's like but you're but it's like but in the end as long as breath of the wild 2 kills it that's what matters and think about that with legends if legends is that Breath of the Wild like game no for sure then what does the rest of it even matter no i know and and i know i may be too down on it and it it just i think you were looking for me you were looking for the announcements that would get you excited about pokemon yeah and stadium coliseum we never got sick of those games they just stopped making them yeah we never got sick of snapping trading card game they already said new trading card game how how many times did they go hey trading cards trading cards trading cards to be fair i know let's see this is where you were just hoping for a trading card game they have one they've had one forever you could they've now taken the actual real-life trading card game and there's an app on your phone and now they already have the trading card game on your phone they so they've already done it it's just we don't play it so technically the trading card game you want sort of exists not exactly in the same way but it's still one of those like they have a whole different company that focuses on all of that and they've killing it the trading cards are worth more than they've they've ever been worth ever and they're doing a really good job with it we're not gonna and we're not gonna get the game boy trading card game days probably ever again what and that sucks now i think the interesting thing about coliseum and stadium i don't think we need a new coliseum or stadium game i think we just need to see that brought into a real pokemon game yeah yeah it shouldn't be separate from it should be in a pokemon game no i did like the mini though the mini games are fine but you can't put mini games in a pokemon game there's mini games in zelda guys we have mini games in zelda we can have mini games of pokemon yeah link's awakening has mini games fishing claw game yeah and come on yeah i i don't know anyways that's anything else i'd say that was no you were underwhelmed overall because you were expecting some more announced i was some bigger ones and just to me again but again the moment they showed legends i didn't care about anything else they showed and that's sad because i'm really excited for right for snap but the world is your legends i'm like no my child my inner child is out this isn't even a generation of pokemon i was into and i don't even care they could have made a sword and shield i don't care what gen they pick it's open world pokemon no for sure that they're probably gonna mess up but i'm yeah you're giving me hope when they when they mirrored the breath of the wild shots i'm like the whole time i'm like they know what they're doing right now they are setting this bar insanely high do not let me down because you are put you know you're making direct breath of the wild comparisons with how you shot this trailer you know what you did yeah you can't do that and then disappoint that's a thing they're right really damn it like sword and shield maybe there's people who don't like it but it didn't really damage the brand this ambitious of a game advertising yourself in a similar fashion to to nintendo's game of the generation and the biggest thing is too you can't you're you can't let people down with this if you swing and miss guess what and that's what that's what the pokemon company's been afraid of forever if they swing and miss guess what you're never gonna see them take a chance again oh no you like this little remake get used to it yep just they're just gonna keep turning they're just gonna they're just gonna go back in their shallow and just keep keep making traditional pokemon games and just leave it at that and never do anything else again i mean we had what the remake of fire you know red and green and don't worry we'll get another remake of those and another remake of something else and another remake of a remake you know that's all they're gonna keep doing it oh yeah and people will keep buying it and that's well that's the part the thing is people keep buying it because think about it we got we grew out of it yeah but they keep introducing more fans yeah that's the that's the pokemon's bread and butter is they keep bringing new generations of fans in over and oh so like yeah some of the old gen kind of cycles out but they replace it with new and if they can keep doing that then you just keep going forever yeah that that's kind of been there the brown butter sure oh yeah we're gonna lose it some old fans but it doesn't matter we got new ones now they're like um okay well we might get new ones but breath of the wild like 150 increase their fan base yeah no for sure so we can get new and we can get old and we can get all together on one game right now that's but we don't even know that was possible until nintendo don't don't ever nintendo nintendo is the company that sold 13 million we use and breath of the wild is also the entire system yeah i'm just saying like nintendo knows how to bounce back from failure for sure game freak in in pokemon company they will never take and sort of shield out of sword and shield sold really well too so the pokemon template going forward if this bombs i guarantee this is the biggest investment they've made in the game yet and poke they don't generally spend a lot to make pokemon games so if they have a team of like 300 400 people working on this like that is we've never seen that so like and if they get they rope nintendo in to try to help them like get it right which i think they should i think they ask i mean i think nintendo is obviously probably roped in anyway nintendo partially owns the pokemon ip so nintendo is gonna want them to get it right so i'm sure there's already deli teams probably talk they probably offered help a monolith stuff so like it probably is the biggest team ever making a game it's just yeah hopefully they got it it's a lot of hype but also it looked pretty rough hopefully we're okay with it looking rough for now it's if it improves every time we see it we get to the end of the year and they do a trailer at the game awards and it still looks out rough then you can be yeah what have they been doing last year yeah they should have just released it a year ago if this is what we're getting yeah anyways thank you guys so much for tuning in that's been fun for i have this little that's our prime conversation lots of videos dropping this week and be sure uh if you haven't checked out the actual podcast we did about the 35th anniversary of zelda that was our last one we dropped last thursday which was awesome check that out we had game over jesse and misclick gaming on two excellent people very passionate about zelda really great crew uh and then we had uh some other stuff happening at the channel over the weekend here we gotta have our first episode of the rebooted prime answers coming up where i answer your guys's question in a more sit-down long-form format that isn't like a live stream i get time to research and answer questions the way that you guys probably want them to be answered more in depth i don't just fly through and ignore things because i can't get to your questions no not every question makes it in of course because i'm not going to make a seven hour twenty four hours later interesting questions that i think would make for a good show and you know maybe maybe i'll limit it to 10 or 15 i'm not sure but i'm going to pick the most interesting questions make a great show out of that uh we have zelda videos coming every single day so uh stay tuned for that uh one video you might want to check out is we recently did a video uh it's technically not done at the time of recording this but it will be before this one comes out uh about uh potential hd uh remakes of the oracle series so you're gonna want to check that video out and we have some others all the conversations going on as well that i still haven't even thought of but you know what i promise is all the video every day because i'm an idiot so here we go it's happening and uh i think that might be yeah besides oh playstation 5 review impressions dropping this weekend and or monday if i don't get the editing done in time so stay tuned for that as well i know some people have been really wondering like what's what's this like nintendo fanboys take on playstation 5 yeah i'll tell you right now i think it's pretty cool but i also think you shouldn't buy it i'll get into it in that review all right folks catch you in the next podcast episode