 I've only given Friday after July 4th, I'm Jay Fidel, I'm a co-host and Tim Apachele is a co-host, okay, and Cynthia joins us, Cynthia Sinclair, she's a co-host and this is TROP WEEK! What kind of a week, Tim? Happy belated 4th of July, do ya? An opportunity for us to feel good about where we live and an opportunity to feel and cherish our rule of law and our constitution. Yeah, I mean you're talking about the event in Washington or are you talking about your own personal reaction to July 4th? It's my own personal at this point, my reaction changes when I think about Washington DC this weekend or this yesterday, but that's okay, we can talk about that later. Yeah, Cynthia, how about you, how do you feel on July 4th? Well, I was watching the fireworks with all my children and my granddaughters, so it was pretty special for me, but it's been pretty strange being here in Alabama and the way people feel about things here. How do they feel about it in Alabama? Well, it's kind of ridiculous because if they live in some kind of bubble of some sort of box news bubble and they don't, at least the people I've talked to, I spoke to 25 different people and ask them three questions, each one of them the same question about immigration, how they feel about Trump, and how they feel about the Mueller report. And overwhelmingly they like Trump, overwhelmingly they don't care about the things he's done wrong, and overwhelmingly they think that the Mueller report has done a really good job. Wow. Which you, yeah. You find that in at least half a dozen states and maybe more, and that's why I was feeling down on July 4th. I was feeling down because I saw all those, really there were thousands of people there, and they were listening to the music and feeling nostalgic about the music, and they were not focused on what he has done or not done. I mean, they have been guided by the disinformation and misinformation. There are tens of millions of Americans who are misguided by the disinformation and misinformation. They believe he was exonerated. They don't care about children drinking from toilets. Let's talk about what happened this week, aside from July 4th, because it actually depresses me. Well, you know, we should talk a little bit because the title is of this show. Oh, the title, yeah, you're right. The title is, Tanks But No Tanks, and that is July 4th in Trump Country. So what about Tanks But No Tanks? May I take just one other thing, though, that I have a cousin who lives in D.C., and she had people visiting that really wanted to go to parade. She does not like Trump, and she decided to go anyway. And there's all the chaos and street merchants selling Trump's memorabilia, all everywhere. She was taking pictures of the label, or most of the things, and it, you know, says Donald Trump, collective wear, or something like that, and then it says made in China on every single one of them, made in China, and I thought that was really something. That is ironic, isn't it? Yes, I thought so, too. Okay, well, moving on about tanks. What about tanks but no tanks? Well, tanks for the memories. No, it's, you know, the tanks were a prop. You know, there was all sorts of rumors they were going to be rolling down the streets, you know, Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the memorial, and no, it didn't happen. They were just going to put there on the side as props. Well, I think the mayor of Washington said something about it. Well, she was very concerned they were going to tear up the roadways. Yeah, well, you know, and sort of cross the little bridges over the Potomac, and one tank driver says to another, what happened to Smitty? Oh, he went in. He's in the Potomac. Poor Smitty. Yeah. It would have wrecked the city. It would have ruined the city. I think they thought wise of it. I'm sure it's not what Donald Trump want, but, you know, at some point someone said, look, you know, have the tanks on the side of the street. People will see them. You're not necessarily going to roll down and destroy these poor roads. And boy, you know, so some kind of reason came to play finally. Yeah. Well, he gave a speech, which was, I mean, I wouldn't call it highly political. I was ignorant. It was highly ignorant, but not highly political. He claimed that the rain was washing over his teleprompter. So he didn't know that in 1814, they had no airports in Hawaii. He claimed that the army, the army what occupied the airports in 1814. I mean, he really didn't know what he was reading. He kind of mismatched the War of 1812 with the Revolutionary War. 1812, I'm sorry. 14, you know, Fort McHenry. Fort McHenry. Yeah. He was all over the board on his history on that, but that's okay because I'm sure he meant well. Yeah. Okay. But at least he didn't go wild and he didn't, you know, do a political divisive speech. He, you know, for him was pretty good considering his ignorance about American history. But what about, you know, what about the rest of it? It seemed to me like he made himself the moderator. He made himself the, what do they call him, the master of ceremonies. The emcee. The emcee. He planted himself right in the middle of everything. That's not what we wanted and that was breaking tradition, wasn't it? You know, the secret about emcees is being emcee if you're a good emcee. When he read off the teleprompter, I felt like I was in the fifth grade history class and little Johnny's at the front of the room reading this report. I mean, you know, it's kind of embarrassing, but that's okay. It's not the first time and it won't be the last time. But you know, for him the most important thing is being on the headlines and being in the public eye and occupying our consciousness. And he did. However, as you mentioned before the show, Tim, you know, there were earthquakes in California. There were other things happening and the press didn't mind not covering so much, not covering him so much. I think people watched the music, but they didn't see it as all about him. It wasn't really all about him. He could not make it all about him. So let's talk about some of the other things that happened this week. One I just want to mention is that there was a secret website that was found that the border patrol were exchanging smart ass remarks about the children and the people they were detaining in these inhuman conditions. Do you remember what happened? Tim, do you want that one? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't hear my name first, and I was trying to be good and not talk when I'm not close to you. Yes, it is hard to be believable how when they closed it down and had a DHS that, oh no, it's not a good thing, but apparently somebody else found out that it was still open and being used and they're just finding ways to go around it. They're not actually, you know, assuming that yes, we should do it and then, you know, using the fists. No, they're just going and heading around so they will know, but they're still doing it. They were making sexually charged remarks about AOC and other people that have been down there to look at stuff. We finally have, now, since they did finally let a couple of congressmen in, that's the biggest thing. A lot of congressmen and senators are trying to go down and look at things on an incoctubation and they're not allowed in. Well, it was an issue about how they couldn't bring their phones in, they had to surrender their phones. Meanwhile, the Border Patrol was taking snapshots of them, you know, selfies. It was really extraordinary. It was make-believe security, make-believe enforcement. Now that's what you got here, this agency is out of control, it needs to be reformed. Imagine making jokes about those kids. Making jokes about the toilets and the food and the concrete floors they're sleeping on. Imagine making jokes, exactly. Well, I think what it's showing is there's a, you know, I'm sure the work environment is not easy. You know, so I'm not a border agent. I'm sure the work environment is very, very difficult. And there is something called, you know, gallows humor in every profession. You ask nurses, ask doctors, they have horrible jokes that, I don't know, psychologically help them through their day. But the problem is when you share that with one another and it becomes discovered, it shows that you're very obtuse. You're numb to the plight of these children and you're numb to, you know, the horrific conditions they've been set for. And that's the problem that's been portrayed in this website is that, you know, it's just a job to them and what they see and how they react to it is really not part of the equation. The other website they came up this week is a website called JoeBiden.info. It's a false website. It was established by a member of the Trump campaign, a guy named Molden, as I recall. And it mocks and gives disinformation and misinformation about Joe Biden. And it comes from Trump. So here we are into dirty tricks. Here we are into, you know, disinformation and misinformation, right here at home, directly from the campaign. I'm saying to myself, well, that's only the top of the iceberg. The fact is there must be a lot of sites like that. How many of them are being organized and written and maintained by the Trump campaign? How many are from Russia? How many are from Russia? Or, you know, the back door of Russia through China, through North Korea. God knows for where they're going to be, you know, through the side door and present it. Right. And how many false and divisive social media messages are happening right now? Just like Russia was doing, Trump does it too. He learned from them or they learned from each other. But it's going to happen. It is happening the same way it happened last time. And it's a year to go or more, you know, before the election. We can expect to see this kind of thing on an ongoing basis. That's very, very disturbing. That's happening. So while he's up there stumbling through the teleprompter, the fact is he's doing other things that are really draconian. And we always have to watch. We always have to be vigilant about this. Now, do either of you have any confidence that Facebook and Twitter were going to eliminate fake accounts and posting this kind of material? Sorry, no. No. And I wonder what... I have no confidence for that at all. Yeah. And, you know, even though he got a bad ruling, he didn't know by Justice Robert even, but he didn't have to stand up and say, oh, you can't put this innocent question on the census because it's obviously looking gerrymandering. But he just said you don't have a good enough leave and come back. What do we do? So it's not yet as far as the census goes, too, but now Trump is trying to stop the print of the census and so he gets a better ruling. That's my... That was actually my favorite thing this week. I mean, favorite was small F, the census. First, his administration said, okay, we'll abide by that and we'll let the census, you know, documents get printed. You know, figure there are hundreds of millions of them and we'll have a census, which is required, required. I say required. You did say required. By a certain date, too, by the way. So then he said, oh, wait a minute, I don't agree with the Supreme Court on this. Wait a minute, agree with the Supreme Court? And he criticized the Supreme Court. You know, I don't know what he said, but it was bad what he said. It was a criticism of the Supreme Court. And then he reversed the decisions of the Attorney General and I don't know who else was involved in making that decision. Maybe it was the Department of Commerce that's printing them. And he said, I want to find some kind of justification. Go find a justification, he said. And this gets to be public. So let me get this straight. It was a bad justification. The Supreme Court struck that justification and he said, I don't know what the justification should be. I have no idea what the justification should be. Find a justification. Well, we're seeing... Go ahead, Cynthia. Well, I didn't... Go ahead, go ahead. Okay. Go find the justification. Okay, what I think is humiliating. Here you have Wilbur Ross, I'm not a big fan of, but you have Wilbur Ross basically making an announcement for the agency, we are going to go ahead and print without the question on it. Can you imagine the Justice Department attorneys that now have to put their tail between their legs and scamper into the court to say, yes, well, yes, yes, well, our client has changed his mind and now we have to come up with a new reason. And can you imagine the look that's going to come down from the bench, down upon their eyes and say, really? And see how that goes. I hope so. I hope they say that. Because if they accept the second crazy justification, which is really a crock-type justification, people are going to lose confidence in the Supreme Court completely. They're going to see him as doing anything that... What Trump wants. When you present your argument, isn't usually your best argument before the Supreme Court? Yeah. But I think it's clear that Trump initiated this question in the first place. People in the White House initiated it. Wilbur Ross went along with it. And now they'll find something. He's asked them to find something. It'll be completely ridiculous. And he will adopt that. And then it'll wind up in the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the deadline you mentioned, the Constitution for the census, will come and go. He's mucked up the census is what he's done. We won't have a census on time. Well, let's look at how this thing reversed itself in the first place. I read about Hugh Hewitt, who's a radio personality, and other conservative groups said, hey, President Trump, you caved in on this way too fast. Why did you do that? So now Donald's going, oh, I caved too quick. Oh, and that's what happened. So who's running this government? Is it Hugh Hewitt? Is it Rush Limbaugh? I mean, is it Laura Ingraham? Who's really running this country? It's a plain embarrassment. Well, I mean, I can't... I think money is running in the country. And you know what the other thing that I was reading was Washington Post about this whole census thing that I think is important? And that is that now, regardless of if that question ends up up with the census or not, there are going to be posts, legal and illegal, you know, immigrants that are not going to want to answer because they're afraid that it might get to the, you know, government and they might end up having some kind of backup. So even without that question, actually, as well as making it to the census, he had far and started to reach a stand, which is to discourage people that are not, you know, full citizens from answering. Well, it depends on how this thing is played. Now, they could do a supplemental page, and so let's say they answer the first page and then the supplemental page is handed to them and they don't answer it. Will that survey be invalid because it's not 100% filled out or will the first page be submitted? Of course, Supreme Court too. This census is mocked up as no census has ever been mocked up thanks to the partisanship involved. Okay, let's shift to international affairs. Tim, you mentioned, and I certainly saw this too, there's an oil tanker that was detained by what, the British? The British. The tanker was taking oil from Iran to Syria. And that's clearly going to be an aid of the Syria war and in violation of Trump's, you know, sanctions on Iran. What's going on here? Why the British doing this? I guess they're trying to be faithful to Trump. They're trying to adhere to the international sanctions they agreed to. Iran is horribly upset about this for a variety of reasons. One, they need revenue and two, you know, that's their sovereign property and it should not be boarded and confiscated. Yeah, so we're in this heightened argument, fight if you will. We're getting more attention every day, every stroke on this kind of thing. And it doesn't bode well. They at the same time have said that they're building bombs now. They're increasing their... The enrichment program has begun. The enrichment program right now. So this is very troubling that, you know, he's created a situation where we're getting close to fisticuffs with Iran. Well, you have to hope that during the background of all this, these news stories, that there is a back channel, there is some, you know, negotiations quietly occurring to your best hope. We don't know. All we have to do is look at the headlines. But, you know, like the Cuban Missile Crisis, there was a back channel, there were negotiations, and it actually did prevent a big, a huge world holocaust of nuclear energy. Yeah, I doubt it though. I mean, it hasn't been that way. It's just been standing on a soapbox yelling. That's what he's been doing. Threatening, doing his threat thing. And then as you said, you know, he threatens and he backs off. Then he threatens again and backs off. Everybody doesn't know what he, nobody knows what he's going to do next. This does not lead to good relations, I would suggest. So, but let's talk about Asia for a minute. Going on, you know, he actually went to the 38th parallel, walked across the border, about two feet, five feet, ten feet maybe. And now we're in a new time of detente with North Korea. What does that mean? Ottawa, who knows, maybe he's trying to put one more check mark for his Nobel Peace Prize. Who knows his motivation? He desperately wants a Peace Prize, you know that. And maybe this is just, you know, part of the application process. Well, the question is whether he gets the Peace Prize or Ivanka gets the Peace Prize. What do you think, what do you say, Cynthia? Is Ivanka going to get a Peace Prize for being a new found diplomat? Oh my gosh, that's just absurd. And I think the only reason that Trump has done all these things is because he wants to make history. He wants to say, what am I to see? I was the first Trump to ever go to business in the center of South Japan. I was the first Trump to ever go across to North Korea. He's doing things that don't actually create any kind of confidence policy or do anything that actually changes history. He just is able to say, what was the first one? I am a history. He just wants to be able to have that title. It's the ultimate nepotism. It is. And she knows as much, she and her husband know as much about diplomacy and foreign affairs as my puppy, who I love very much. I love my puppy more than I love them. Oh my gosh, that's one thing, the thing that I've heard from people is that I have some of the public report and all that sort of stuff. And that's one of the things that when Jared had come out and said that, he said about how, oh, it was just a couple of Facebook posts, right? That's what they believe. To be honest, they believe that when I've asked them specifically about Russia, well, how do you know about the stuff that Russia is imputing on election? You won't think they're effecting the election. I mean, all of it was just a couple of Facebook posts. And I think, my gosh, Chuck, you know, I don't know the truth. How about China, Jim? What do you think about China these days? Is there, you think there's any chance there's really going to be detente there? You know, the, what do you call it, the ceasefire, Trump said he would not raise tariffs on China. And China said they would. Even on the last 300? 300? Yeah. He's just going to oppose the 300, whatever it is. Yeah. A billion. Hi. Who donated? What is it? I can't remember the exact number. 750. Millions. Millions, yeah. He's done it from the fireworks. And then he's also the one in Illinois or somewhere in the Midwest, but he's a business man. It was hers, him, those tariffs. So he's gone, donated that money, and it's just, so there's fireworks. And it just so happens that that's the same day that Trump decides to not go ahead with tax taxes. But what I don't understand is how all of this leads to a confidence in the American public, you know, to have new jobs, you know, what, a quarter million new jobs in the month of June, I think it was. And the economy seems okay, although there are flaws in it and the economists tell us watch out because this could be a break, you know, a breakthrough type economy where it falls apart any day. But, you know, a good economy depends on confidence and people apparently, people in general, I think they're confident. They're confident. You know, again, I think they believe the story that these tariffs are damaging China where, I don't know why they believe that, but they do, I guess that's because Donald Trump told them so. But in fact, we know this as a tax against the consumer. And that's just how it is and that's how it's being paid. They don't understand that. And Trump says, oh, it would be even better if we got Powell to reduce, you know, what do you call it? The Fed rate. The Fed rate. And we would really, he said, quote, go to the moon, I think he said, or Mars as a case may be. He's not going to Mars. So, you know, I don't understand this is a big disconnect which will ultimately catch up to us because we don't have the money to do what he wants to do. The Tax Reform Act was a horrible mistake. It's not going to get reversed anytime soon. And we have a deficit of something like $2 trillion on his watch. So, you know, I think we are facing a huge economic problem going forward. It may visit itself between now and the election. I think Susan hit it right on the early part of the show is where people get their information is the bubble. And if that's the only bubble contained therein, everything that is stated in that bubble, Fox News, that's what they believe. And when it comes to the tariffs, they absolutely do not believe this is a tax against them, although their pocket book is starting to show it. Okay, we're almost out of time. I want to take a moment to look to next week and see what we think is going to happen next week. The 4th of July is over. The Democrats seem fragmented. Sorry. The committees that are supposed to be doing all the investigation in the House, you haven't heard much from them. And, you know, we seem to be in a quiet time even. Shouldn't be. Shouldn't be. What's going to happen next week? Well, I think you're going to hear more collateral damage from these horrific conditions at the border. I think more information is going to come out of that. I am a little upset that they're spending so many days talking about the Democratic debates. I mean, how many days did they talk about that when we had this horrible news coming out of, you know, at the border down in Texas? It was outrageous, as far as I'm concerned. So I think you can hear more about the border issue. I think you're going to hear a little bit more about how Iran is going to settle out. And I think Venezuela is going to pop its head up. There's incarcerations and the murder of that Navy captain in Venezuela. And that is really sparking a lot of protest. People are very upset about that. Yeah. And mind you, by the way, I mean, suffice to say, aside from the disinformation and the misinformation, there's nothing good happening. Nothing good. None of these initiatives are working. Infrastructure, nothing, nada. You know, no tuning up of legislation. No forward motion of legislation. And the only executive order you hear about is how he's going to make an executive order on the census. Yeah. Collecting his muscle on that. But I don't see anybody in Washington doing any real work. That's my thing. It's not managing the chaos at all. There is no management. Yeah. Cynthia, you know about chaos. What do you think is going to happen next week? Well, I'm always looking for the respect in the chaos. And I ask that there will be enough people. There will be absolute housing about what's happening with the children down here. But I know down here in the South, when I asked the calibration question, about the 25 people I spoke with, and, well, they shouldn't have come here in the first place, is what I have heard. And I think, oh, no. This just gives me a lot. And anyway, people will start really getting a once-up about establishing elected security. Like, you know what you were saying, Kim, about how they spent so much time on the debate. And that's when it will come on. I think there is about which candidate is better. If we don't have election security, because the rest of us is running. So that's why, you know, go for it. Okay. All right. My prediction, if you would, my prediction is that on Monday, that's one business day away, I'm even over the weekend, he is going to try to retake the headlines. Because that's what Donald Trump does. He tries to retake the headlines every week. You'll win the bet. I know I'll win the bet. The only question is, what does he do to retake the headlines? It can either be some war thing around Iran, something in Asia. It's got to involve the kids and the border patrol. It's got to be some outrageous thing. And as you said early on, you know, he'll go to the limit and then pull back just to get our attention. Okay. One of your clothes. You're my co-host here, Tim. Well, the clothes is, you know, I'm glad we got to the fourth. I'm glad people had a good time. I hope they had great picnics. But yeah, hang on to your hat for Monday and it's a long week next week. All right. Let's see. We'll see you here one week's time. Trump week. Trump week. Trump week. Aloha. Aloha.