 Pleasure to welcome in the head coach of the New York Giants Pat Shermer. How are you done? Good Peter? How's it going? Good man? How are you whether fabulous? This must be a great day to practice, right? Yeah, this is one of the best, you know last couple days were hot and humid Unfortunately, we got chased in because of the lightning. I do like that the heat If you don't get it this time of year and you don't work in it Then it's hard once the season starts. Yeah, exactly because some time or sometimes it could be tough But all right second year. Is there a big difference between camp two as opposed to camp one last year? The amount of work we're trying to get done is is the same I think every year you have little challenges with how you practice You know certain guys are at different stages and coming back from little injuries I think that's that's the way of the world when you look around But there's a certain amount of work, you know I got to try to get 53 guys ready to play the first game and you know within that You know, there's some banging that you need to do. We got to do some running There's there's all the special teams work and and and really the the stress that you you put yourself through Physically and mentally of being tired and and dealing with the elements is obviously the heat this time of year It's all part of it All fence defense special teams all the things that you have to work on is there is there one team that is Is easier to deal with or harder to deal with is there a big difference? Well, I think each unit has its challenges in terms of practice I feel like we're in incrementally better on All three sides if there's such a thing OD and special teams And so we just want to continue to get our best players ready to go And then the guys that are trying to make the team give them an opportunity to make it And and that's where the you know playing well in the preseason games is important for them And then just see where we're at at the end. Hopefully we got a lot of tough decisions in terms of yeah Right whittling this thing down to 53. What was the what was the hardest thing about last year? And not just in terms of on the football field like obviously we know it was a challenging season and disappointing But just overall taking over this job being in New York. What was the what was the hardest thing for you? Well, I think obviously we didn't start near the way I wanted to start and you know, we lost a bunch of close games And that's why a lot of the focus this year has been about finishing We played really well through three quarters and then we had you know, four or five games at the end that You know in this league it makes a difference to be able to finish. So that was the challenge The challenge is obviously staying consistent Throughout sticking to your beliefs and I think we played much better at the end when we got our version of the 2018 offensive line intact. You can see more of what our offense will look like We had a lot of changes on defense So I think right now, you know, we stay healthy be more opportunistic. We win those close games And which which happened for every team and then we're talking about a different different season What was it of the give of the ones that you ended up losing late? Which one ate at you the most? Was it the Philly one? Oh god. That was a very tough one. Is there one that sticks out that you went? You know, you know, I think each one of them, you know, you look at them for what they are You know, the Philly games certainly were up when 19 to nothing You know early in season Carolina, you know So, you know as you play through the season and then you're fortunate enough to win some close games, too So some of that levels out I think we just got to force it over the top where you know You got to go take those wins when they're there and and I think that's part of the focus this year as well Yeah, like you said the 19-nothing lead against Philadelphia the Tampa game what you won They there's another five minutes in that game. Maybe it's a different story Is it just learning how to win learning how to close games? Well, I think that's the cliche part of it Right, but you got to just go do it. Yeah, and I think that's that's the starting point for us was We we played well through stretches and our younger players probably played way more than They should have been playing so that in year two that helps them. And so we just got to go do it For for a neophyte is a fan on the outside looking at it's a big word Lucky I can spit that out is the second half your general manager Dave Gettleman talked about you were better in the second half But you know the fan will look out again and say oh, well, it's Tampa, San Francisco When it really meant something you end up losing the Philadelphia minute How do you how do you extract information out of all right? The second half you were one and seven the pressure is awful a little bit. You made some trades I don't know about the pressure being off. It didn't feel it doesn't feel that way doesn't feel that way, but You know, I think we played better You know, we beat Chicago, you know, we and we won some games at home, which I think are important But again, it plays into the consistency and being able to finish the games the right way And then we're talking about a different season. Did the pressure actually step up I think one thing we've sort of forgotten about with how much conversation there is about Odell Was that Odell sort of made that decree of like we're gonna make the playoffs We're gonna do this and it seemed like people seem to rally around that a little bit Did that amplify the pressure a little bit to people seem to like let's try to do this I don't I don't know. I don't think it was a rallying cry But I do think it was a hey listen He noticed we were getting better and he was confident about our ability to win games and and we did it to some degree Well, so where did the pressure come from when you say pressure? Where is that? Well, I don't I'm not sure I said pressure, but you know, I said there was there's There's always like I don't know if there's always there's always the pressure that we feel as competitors to perform and win And I think that's that's just the way it is whether you start the season Well, or you know or medium or like the way it started for us a year ago There's always a pressure each Sunday to go win You got to be better than the team you play on Sunday that Sunday and I think that's the challenge It's such a weird sport because like in basically no other pro sport Do you look back at the last year and you can go? Well, we beat Chicago here We because every week is so important right you play 162 Baseball games or 82 basketball games or 80 hockey games. It's just not the same But to your point it just seems like even when the losses mount up if you're a head coach particular in your first year Every week that in the building it's still each each win or loss is incredibly meaningful now first year second year third year It never stops and you know if you put it in baseball terms, you know a win is like a 10-game winning streak a Loss is like a 10-game losing streak relative to the numbers compared to baseball and so But we do it within a one-week cycle, but to you we you mentioned it earlier This is by far the I think it's the greatest game in the world You know you're talking about a tremendous amount of talent. You're talking about Toughness which is demanded at every position that plays football and then the team work involved trying to coordinate And get 53 guys to play well and go the right direction and so it's it's an I think it's an amazing game I'm glad to be able to coach it and I'm looking forward to us having a good year I'm talking about your head coach of the New York Giants here on the Michael K. Show alright wide receiver You've had some issues here in training camp. How are you going to handle that going forward? Well, I think we're working the guys that are healthy and you know Stirling's out there working. We got a yellow jersey on him So he's not supposed to get hit. He's not supposed to catch balls Well Eli he's reacted and threw him one yesterday. So everybody's panicked about it It's not that big a deal. He caught it one hand and we moved on And so, you know nothing, you know, unfortunately, we lost Corey Coleman But we have guys that are filling in Corey was a role-player for us a year ago Helped us on special teams, but we got some guys to kind of fill in there And so and we feel good about some of the veteran players that that we have there Latimer Benny Fowler Obviously Golden Tate, you know, we've got I really do believe when it comes to the receiving core It's gonna take a village everybody's got to get their production and you know Most of the time when you play good winning football, you know And you look at the stats at the end of it, you know, you ran for somewhere around a hundred You didn't turn the ball over quarterback completed a high percentage of balls and typically when you look at in terms of the receivers You know six or seven guys touch balls, you know or or made their, you know got their production And so, you know, that's certainly what we're looking for, you know Unfortunately, you know Odell was hurt the last four games And so we had to play it that way and we found a way to have success Have you gotten to obviously the golden situations of bummer him deal? You know trying to deal with fertility situation It's there's a lot of layers to me that make that a bummer But he played in C. C. Sabatius charity softball game the summer that I was playing in and I saw him Rip a home run and then moments later come in and catch a fly ball behind his back Right, and yeah, it's just a goofy game But you know, I played baseball for a long time catching a fly ball behind your back in an actual game I was like this dude's a freak. Have you gotten to really see any and he's only been here a little while How much you got to see of just golden tates talent? We have and you know, he has baseball in his background. Certainly he was a fine baseball player growing up So that doesn't surprise me If you'll talk to him, he'll tell you he's a fine golfer and you know when he's out here running routes he has a really good knack for getting open in short areas and And then running with the ball after that which he's displayed already to us And so with with with golden situation, I know it's it's on the horizon what the decision is going to be But he's been out here practicing like he's gonna play week one and you know, we're hopeful he'll be there But we'll just have to wait and see all right. Tell us about Daniel Jones so far Daniel is is done an outstanding job and when I go back to Being smart and tough and and getting it and being able to work and improve he's done all those things and You know, I know there were some people that were critical of some of his traits Throughout the drama. Well, we haven't seen any of that. So we feel good about where he's at He competes he learns he doesn't read. He doesn't repeat mistakes He's got really an aggressive Mindset in practice here. So he's trying to see what his can receivers can do down the field, which is important And we're just pleased with the progress. He's making what is getting it mean the most because something coaches say so often What specifically do you mean when you say a quarterback gets it? Yeah, it's one of those deals where you know when you see it and you know How he trains He's here on time. He does all the things necessary But when you say something on the field or you know, you do like today. We're in the walkthrough You know, I asked him I say you didn't have to do all this stuff in college. He said no, I'm not really well I firmly believe defense is pushed back harder in the NFL than they do in college I had a young quarterback once time. Tell me the hardest thing about being a rookie quarterback is Dealing with some of the failure that comes with it like when you're in college at times and you're playing for a really good team You can look out there and all the receivers are open and so just pick one out and throw it well here Because the defenses are so much better You know, you can look out and maybe the guy you're looking at's not open So you got to move on or and so being able to deal with that and go through that And that's the thing that he gets he can move through it get to the open receiver Understands pressure and protection and listen. He's a rookie there. There's gonna be some bumps in the road Like it is for all rookies, but we're really pleased with where he's at You are in a unique position as a head coach of managing The end of a legacies career and you've got a legendary player in Eli Manning His contract is up at the end of the year You've got the sixth overall pick count awaiting in the wings here How much of a challenge is that to manage a football season in which you want to win and want to be successful But also making that transition from one era to the next Well, I really believe Eli can still play at a high level. So that's where it starts He's had an outstanding spring and an early part of camp And and so, you know, you cross all those bridges when you come to him, you know, I think You know, we're gonna play the players at all positions that give us the best chance to win Eli Eli's known that since he started playing in junior high and he's been that guy That's been the best player for many many years and I hope he continues to be And we have open honest conversations about everything And there's great respect for all the people that you mentioned in this in this process And we expect him to go out and help us win games and then we'll deal with it from there This is only your second year, but for a few years We've heard that Eli still has it But yet we haven't necessarily see it all come together in wins During the season. Is that on him? Is that on the team or is it a combination of the two? Well, I think, you know, everybody has a piece in whether you win or lose and and I think, you know, last year we certainly were not You know, I there was a reason the team was three and thirteen You know, we made some progress a year ago and I think we're going to make much more progress this year And it's about winning and I think we all understand that so You know, anytime you do something everybody's responsible Why is your offensive line better? I think we made some changes that'll help us and I think the young players That we had playing a year ago made progress. So Uh, we're developing the young players we have and then we're continuing to add veteran players that'll help And I think that's the reason why if if if you could say with this specific group Really excels beyond expectation We end up having a good season or a better season than expected. Which group would that be? Well, being a being an old offensive lineman You know, I think, you know, that's sort of like the engine in your car You know, I really I really believe that And I thought it really showed last year When we we did a better job of coming together and And blocking better on a consistent basis It it sort of started to turn our year around and but we need to do that from week one All right. Good luck this year. All right. Thank you. I really enjoyed this