 I wanted to ask you something that I'm just curious about so obviously we had a lot of peaceful protests really beautiful throughout West Hollywood throughout the city of LA and really like moving you know very very touching and incredible recently probably two weeks ago I was on I'm on a different site in Lincoln Heights and I had to call the LAPD and while we're just kind of hanging out talking I just asked the officer you know what does this spend like for you given given the media and he he shared something with me that really blew me away he's like so it was a Monday he said this morning we had our staff meeting and it turns out there was an LAPD vehicle that there was a bomb under it and so now we're being told that we have to search our cars every morning and then he shared with me that he has a son he's a parent and he's walking on the street and a four-year-old or a kid he said flicks him off and then his mother says don't even look at the police officer I didn't say don't flick this adult off this police officer but said to not even look at them and one of the concerns I obviously have is like I just feel like nobody's talking and we're just moving into these completely scary situations as you think about leadership during this time obviously this is like an impossible challenge right or so it feels like it and I don't know if you have the right answer but I just kind of wanted to get your thought process around this because for me as an outsider to some extent right I'm not I'm certainly not a politician but just hearing these two anecdotal stories I just thought this has got to be a tough time for for leadership for politicians to navigate yeah I mean the many problems fall into this description but this one in particular you're not going to politician your way out of it you have to be real you have to be willing to have tough conversations you have to be willing to create the safe space for people to be honest about what their experiences have been and you know and also be prepared to dig in and do the work for the long haul this isn't something that's going to change overnight or get better overnight and you know I have a friend who's raising her with her husband raising two kids in their home and her son had said that he always thought that you were when police showed up you were supposed to run away like he had the you know he's very young and had this impression like when police show up you're supposed to run away and she goes huh I have to do something about that and she actually reached out to our local sheriff station and had a conversation with the lieutenant there and said you know would you mind come you know my son's about to have his birthday would you mind coming and like meeting my son and you know having this conversation with him and so they did and they brought the police car and the flashing lights and all the things the kids got excited but you know putting a human face on something helps to address what you talked about you know create in that very tense dynamic and that tense dynamic also comes from human interactions in neighborhoods where that's not how people are experiencing law enforcement and that isn't how law enforcement shows up in a community and so we have to also be mindful that just because you know in a place like West Hollywood that's relatively safe and has you know for the most part of good working relationship with our sheriff station there are communities where that is not the case and we have to be open to hearing that and willing to do better and work at it and you know and also be willing to be as upset about you know when we're hearing you know incidents of police brutality as we are when we're hearing about property damage or you know things like that we have to make sure that we're prioritizing people's lives first that's why people say black lives matter we have to make sure that you know we're really thinking about those things and taking being accountable and taking responsibility hey everyone thanks for checking out that clip if you enjoyed it be sure to hit the like button down below and if you're interested in hearing the full episode it's out right now on our YouTube channel we've had a lot of great guests come on this show before and we've got a lot of great guests coming up in the future so hit subscribe so that you don't miss a single episode one final note we're always looking for new ideas and new companies feature on the show so if you know of someone or know of a company write us a comment down below letting us know who they are and what they do we'd be happy to have them on the show till then I'll just be here waiting for your comments so see you later