 National Executive Council to convene special sessions for implementation of reports by panels that investigated cases of police fatality will talk about the Nigerian police this morning. Barrister Monday-Ubani seeks implementation of court judgement that stops federal law makers from fixing their own salaries. Barrister Ubani will be speaking to us this morning. And an online medium publishes details of money transfers from the Central Bank of Nigeria to Co-App. Welcome to the Breakfast on Plus TV Africa. It's a very beautiful Thursday morning, the 24th of June 2021. I am Annette Felix. And I am Musaugi Ogboan. Thank you very much for waking up with us this morning and for, of course, kicking off our Thursday morning. We hope that you enjoy the conversations we're about to have. Yes, and talking about conversations. We know first of all that an online medium, People's Gazette, has published an exclusive report about the federal government paying monies to Crowe through the Central Bank of Nigeria. And Gazette said the funds were for the setting up of Crowe, so it would rival Twitter and Facebook. Crowe founder Adamo Gabba is known to be a critic of Twitter and the role he played in the ensarse protest, Gabba admits his company got money from the CBN but said it was for a different reason. Take a listen to Adamo Gabba as he defends himself against the publication by the People's Gazette. I don't know why these guys like to try from fake news and I really don't know why Samuel Ogundipe is a bend on trying to paint dark, fake, confused information out there for the purpose of maybe trying to get viewership or patronage of his media. He contacted me and asked me the details and I gave him full details about what happened. I think it's one of the intervention projects. Usually for those that knows the working of government, there are some agencies that get intervention from government to get their project executed in return. The CBN makes the payment. In fact, this project has been concluded since 2017. We even got our payment I think in 2019, two years after. So how can that possibly be the development used for the development of Crow? You know, Crow, we develop it 100% with internal funding. In fact, I told him that if People's Gazette will want to invest in Crow, we want him to come and invest in Crow. We will open the books of investment, we will show them exactly how the development was funded and then we will want them to come and invest. Now that was the head of Crow app IPIS Solutions. It's a company that uses software engineering and development based in Abuja. And we know that Adam Gabbar was also a presidential aspirant and also that he started talking about Crow app when the federal government said they were going to suspend Twitter for the time being. So this really has opened up a can of worms and the conversation really is about why the federal government banned Twitter in the first place. Because if we're getting information that in 2018 the central bank of Nigeria allegedly funded a social media application to rival Facebook, Twitter and other social media apps, it then makes you think the federal government really suspend Twitter just because of a tweet because this seems like something that has been a long time coming. Oh well. So the reasons for suspending Twitter, the means of information has mentioned that it is because it says it's a Nigeria's interest to protect Nigeria's integrity and some of the other different reasons. They have been back and forth concerning whether it has anything to do with the NSAR's protest or because it allows the likes of ESN and NAMDICANO and other many reasons. But just like the conversation I had yesterday on PlusPolitics, it's very, very difficult for you to see any other reasons different from the fact that they have in, you know, Quote Bad-Belle for Twitter and they have to find their way to control it and it's really not about the level of false information and some of the other reasons as they keep giving as they keep claiming. They say, how do they say it? No, if an owl cries at night and the child dies in the morning, it's very likely that you point to the owl. I think I said that wrong, but anyway. So that's about their reasons. Did they give money to Adamugaba? It's pretty obvious that they did. Every now and then, when these accusations come up, people would always say, well, if they are completely false, then you can go ahead and sue. But he doesn't seem to be challenging the fact that he did receive money from the CBN. Does the Central Bank of Nigeria give out funds for these interventions for projects to private citizens? I'm guessing that there is some funding, just like the Bank of Industry and some other platforms like that, to individuals who want to start up one business or the other investing in information technology or whatever it is. But you remember about two weeks ago when we had a conversation about this same app, and I said that I believe that a lot of people, there are certain people, not a lot of people, there are certain people who their views and their conversations concerning this whole situation and the suspension of Twitter is driven by their own personal interests. I mentioned it with regards to Adamugaba I don't remember his name now, Reginald Daniels' husband. So it is driven by their own personal interests, not necessarily because they want truth or they are being honest with their feelings. Everybody who wakes up in the morning and goes on television and says, oh, Twitter insulted Nigeria and insulted the president, I believe that those thoughts and those views are coming from their own personal interests. Talking about personal interests, we know that during that entire protest, the person of Adamugaba filed a lawsuit against Twitter saying the app constituted an existential threat to Nigeria, but you had your own rival app in the works. I feel the sky is big enough for everyone to fly. If you have an application or whatever it is that rivals something else, go ahead and do your thing. You didn't have to try to pull down Twitter. Once again, personal interests, because in that community and in a regular business community, there are those who want to play the game dirty and would rather kill a business so that theirs can thrive. They can make money from that same business. It's pretty much the same conversation, the same life. You try to pull this one down so that yours can thrive. The bone of contention here now is whether the federal government, whether he reached out to somebody in the federal government and said, oh, I can bring up this rival app and so you guys should help me with ways to pull down Twitter so that this one can thrive. I know this person, I know that person, and he got funding and eventually then invested in setting his own app. That's where the bone of contention is. He says, oh no, the money was given for something else, a totally different intervention project. But he got paid for two years after he completed it. So really, that's just the issue. There's no dispute in the fact that the federal government or the CBN actually gave Adam Mugaba's IPIS solutions a sum of 136.8 million Naira on May 21st, 2019. No dispute in the fact. The CBN made a transfer to Adam Mugaba's company. It looks funny. So the issue now is what was the money meant for? People's gazette is saying the money was for the funding of Crow app to rival social media platforms, Facebook and Twitter. Which is not even possible, if you're being honest. We have no idea. That's why it's the main issue now. While Crow or Adam Mugaba is saying it's for something else. So let's move on now. We know that there are many employees in Nigeria who daily complain about unpaid salaries. Some complain to their relatives. Others do it on social media. Now there are people who tell their employers either via mail, a letter or face to face. But a news anchor in Kenya decided to complain during live news. Take a look. It is the 19th of June 2021. Welcome. Top stories back in headlines today. President Lungo Honours KK, TCZ, Suspense Physical Submission of Applications. PF and UPND signed Violent Free Accord. Accounts commit suicide over date. Zamba records 1,860 new cases, COVID-19 cases. In international news, Iran elections guidelines rise to become president. In sports news, sports league battles to the end day. Aware from the news, ladies and gentlemen, we are human beings. We have to get paid. And fortunately, on KBN, we haven't been paid. People are getting instruments on KBN. Taperu Yoshimata, Sharon and everybody else haven't been paid, including myself. We have to get paid. All right. His name is Kabinda Kalimina. He's from Zambia. He's a Zambian news presenter of KBN TV. The video we just played showed Kabinda reading the headlines. And then he went on to say away from the news and he said we have not been paid. He mentioned the names of all the favorite TV anchors in Zambia saying even Sharon hasn't been paid. I myself haven't been paid. I know we're humans. We need to get paid. You know, KBN TV have responded. They said that Kabinda was drunk. I don't know why he wasn't drunk when he wasn't reading the headlines. The alcohol didn't kick in. But they said that they were going to sanction him. They added that everyone, maybe people in the PCR like Shay and the rest. They said everyone in the PCR would be sanctioned. Anyone who assisted him, you know, would get him off when he started going off the news. So that basically is what it is. Would you complain about your salary on TV? So I think that's, you know, a level of unprofessionalism that I don't think anybody should get to. He thinks it. But there's what our past Gary does. That you will have to, when you think of the fact that your rent is due, your wife has been asking you for money for two months. Maybe she just gave birth to twins. She's just been a wife, you know, asking for money and, you know, you can't, you know, provide those funds. You know, roof is leaking. They show you've been wearing safety for two years. And you can't protest. Because who would report the protest if you're protesting? Well, I'm just saying, you know, there's what our past Gary does. You would say, man. I don't care about these. No, I don't know. There's some things. Never. You know, you would never ever, you can never get to, you know, it's too shameful, you know, and also looking forward to, looking forward to, you know, whatever it is. Because if you get fired, you know, wherever you are, they're going to look at some of these things as reasons to not even hire a person. Exactly. So hell no, it's not, it's not, it's very, very unprofessional. There are other ways that you can, of course, express your grievances, but even live TV to do that doesn't in any way get you paid faster and also makes you look, you know, very, very, very, very unprofessional. So I can't remember the person I was going to say, but yeah, you know, for a person who's reading like that, I don't even know why they should pay you. Because if you listen to the, you know, the headlines that he was reading, he didn't sound like he, you know, was educated in any way. That's my first observation. If you look at, you know, looking very, very unprofessional. Maybe because he already knew what he wanted to do, so he wasn't himself. Yeah, so he was probably looking for the right moment to bring it in. Yeah, that was a mistake. So mindset was thinking of, you know, do I do this or do I not do this? But please pay him salaries. Yes, please pay him. But the issue is, would he find employment elsewhere though? I'm sure he will. He's become sort of a celebrity now, for the most popular, for you to be able to give the absolute best of your abilities and the best of yourself. You know, salaries are very, very important. Your admiration is very, very important. And so, regardless of how many times, listen, TV presenters, radio presenters, they go on air every morning or every day, and have to give the very, very best delivery of themselves, regardless of what issues they're facing back at home. There are people who, you know, walk into the studio crying, you know, but when they get on camera, they have to... You have to give that, you know, the very best of yourself. And so, regardless of your family problems, regardless of, you know, who broke your heart, you know, last week, regardless of finding that your wife was cheating or that your husband has a child outside, you still need to go on camera and give the very best of yourself. So the organization you work for should not add to the stress that you're dealing with. I agree. All right, let's take a break here and take a look at what's trending on the newspapers this morning.