 that's pretty incredible that intro was good so good about as well as it's so clear what this is I mean it certainly catches everybody's attention right like you know the intro goes it's like whoa I'm listening what what's happening what oh my god the little dead end maybe that's like a good way to just get people's attention is to just every like 30 minutes go and then they'll be what was that your mic did not want to want us to hear the problem is that I can't if I try to get it or probably just screw up well it was one day maybe it was kind of a that kind of sound I think that's your microphone well the crisp thing from disc will be like I don't know what's happening like is this background noise or is this a human being or is this an alien is he okay is he okay is he all right and then discord gets up from the from the uh from the bench and is tumbling forward and then screams no um we've been doing the uh last of us stuff I mean a dead space at a similar time so John here joining us for a little bit of reading the messages you guys sent in and answering them uh so hello that happened nice to have you with it thanks for having me here it's kind of funny the first one is I wish halo got treated with this amount of respect so yeah you could have been like you'd have been like oh you mean because of the halo show versus the last time so it's like no I mean dead space versus games that are halo it's like yeah that sucks oh poor poor halo we were uh as a backup sort of thing going to talk about that when Akvan came on but we ended up talking about dead space basically forever because this was pretty neat um according to most people I think it's pretty cool yeah I'm actually I'm almost through the new game plus the only thing I've got left is finding the marker pieces of 10 out of 12 looking for any rooms pieces of 12 yeah yes you know eight you know what needs a remake remaster simpson's hit and run I think someone's a fan has done that a remake of something like that yeah or they they've oh that's cool wanted to part and rebuilt it to have like a better graphics I'm not sure I know that's one thing I think they did was combine all of the maps the one huge oh I'm sure I'm seeing that actually now that I think about it which is neat I mean dude if they and they did that like yeah dead space and yeah connected I was about to say like dead space they did it like dead space when did that game first come out like yeah I think it's like 2002 or three because they made uh they made row rage which was a pretty cool game but it was much more focused in terms of like a linear uh it's crazy taxi yeah pretty much and then I think they looked at that and were like oh but Grand Theft Auto 3 came out and that's like the bee's knees so let's do Grand Theft Auto but uh the Simpsons well my hot it's kind of crazy like how profoundly influential Grand Theft Auto 3 really was like that changed everything my hot take is that hit and run is just better than road rage because it has road rage in it for a couple of missions uh yeah to people to people actually to people would disagree I thought everybody agreed that uh I've seen some people say they prefer road rage really I don't get it it's just road rage but also a whole bunch of extra stuff well maybe they don't you would like it better maybe they don't give me that extra stuff is lame uh I mean obviously I would disagree but I guess I can understand that it reminds me of GoldenEye versus Perfect Dark like GoldenEye's good but like Perfect Dark does everything that GoldenEye does plus way more and like yeah crazy stuff like bots like the different AIs that you could put in fine then you know that John are you are you excited for this seemingly forever in development Perfect Dark reboot that's happening oh yeah that's right I remember hearing about that 17 years ago yeah I think there's like an E3 trailer like five years ago or something if I if I recall the timeline Microsoft created a new studio called initiative which they dubbed as a quadruple studio funnily enough the Callisto protocol they called that internally like a quadruple game so we're on a good track record so far on that front and that was a team that was made and I think I had some guys it had a whole bunch of veterans and they announced it and then like a year and a half past it's like oh the initiative has lost a lot of its employees one of its leads is gone and crystal dynamics is now coming in so like help make the game and so it's like oh god like that doesn't sound very good the whole team is kind of like disappeared and now another studio is coming in to essentially make the game right and it seems like at this point who knows when that's gonna who knows right that apparently fable as well the reboot has been having uh development troubles as well so that one's gonna reboot you have so you know infinite had the development troubles I'm not sure what's going on with Microsoft Studios right now it seems like uh it seems like it's Bethesda that they're kind of relying on at the moment to actually like release games somewhat consistently but I mean who knows right Starfield is the big one um that one probably has to deliver I've not been impressed by what I've seen so hopefully it really shakes me either um but and then there's stuff that I've heard like a thousand planets it's like so how many are there really there's like what there's probably like 20 I would have met which is fine I guess which is the problem if like I think that's okay if you give enough places on those if you give me 20 good places to visit I will be very happy especially if those places are um like well you just do variations on the 20 like 20 biomes that would be if if they give us biomes that would be legitimately impressive that would be really cool if they did that one had their own like like like Deep Rock Galactic where you have all these different biomes and they're all very unique and different from one another not just visually but in terms of the stuff there one of the benefits as well is I think because Starfield is meant to have like different factions that are out across the galaxy so you'd have some planets that are maybe like totally barren wilderness or you know or you know even like the moon where it is like a totally barren but it's got a bunch of caves and formations around and then you could have places that have establishments or space stations which I imagine is what they're going to do it's just that um what was the last Bethesda game studio's game was Fallout 76 I think that was their last game uh and people didn't like it very much and now it's been nearly six years and now what's up to Starfield which is new like it's a new thing so it kind of has to deliver I would imagine I think beyond bad it was a huge blunder for them wasn't it like just uh yeah it was a big bad thing for them and I will say I've got friends who like play it now today so I guess they put a lot of work into it and they say it's good and if they have fun playing together so you know I'm willing to believe that it works and put into that game because the skeleton the the concept of that game is is a fine one there's nothing wrong with that I think there's like NPCs and stuff in it now so hey what happens uh snoy movie game yes I agree love the Leviathan boss fight in the remake um I did too I just wanted it to be heartier yeah I needed to be more uh having played the first two dead space games this game was probably the first time I used every gun in a single playthrough it was fun something I found on new game plus was the um I think focusing on the plasma cutter almost entirely is just it might rank up there in terms of just a good strategy for actually yeah it just gives you yeah because the game weighs the ammo that you pick up depending on what you're carrying so if you're only carrying one or two weapons you're only gonna get one or two kinds of ammo and you know it and if one of your problems the familiarity you can gain with the plasma cutter so that you're prepared no matter what with whatever enemy and I think you brought up rags but like the few times that something gets real close or maybe there's two enemies and you don't want to do it's like you can blow out a force gun backup or contact beam um or a line gun you can really make anything your secondary even the ripper could probably do the job but um yeah the the plasma cutter 90% of the encounters you'll be fine as long as you don't aim I jumped in towards the end of one of your playthroughs and you seem to be doing quite well with that OP plasma cutter build you had a shitload of ammo like wow how does he have so much ammo it's I guess if you're just carrying the one gun like you're saying rags like it only gives you that type of ammo usually if that's all you have they do give you some other ones sometimes but it's like a little out anyway and sell it sell what you don't want yeah um hi rags hi other than scrappy do and dog meat what dogs do you have beef with lassie clifford old yellow um I don't really have any beef with dogs honestly um the reason that I don't like dog meat is just because of Bethesda's terrible programming and like general AI um dog meat will constantly get in the way you collide with him so you can't just walk through him so dog meat often will stand in fucking doorways like a dumb person he will constantly walk right in front of you as you are looting things it's like that dog was designed to constantly get in your way and annoy you and when he finds something that's interesting quote unquote and like leads you to it it can be just worthless garbage like oh wow thanks thanks for bringing me all the way out here to this pool queue dog meat that those really really useful I'm gonna go back to what I was doing is that on purpose to try and be like see it could be like a real dog might find that it well I'm I'm sure it's probably purposeful yeah in the sense that he leads you to stuff but it I guess that the range of items that it can bring you is too broad in the same way that like you were talking about fable right hell oh wow the dog found something oh my gosh what's in here I can't wait to dig it up oh it's a condom well I was gonna say I'm with you on that the example I will give forever is last guardian where it's like it's this clash of making something realistic and making something worthy for game mechanics they don't always mesh um the reason for that and there's a reason why you know like the classic one I think maybe to explain it to everybody is when you reload a gun about like three shots left and you reload there's a reason why a lot of games don't toss out that three ammo even though it technically should hardcore games do and you can appreciate that and it can add to the experience oh ammo pool uh yeah hardcore out so there's a decent amount of hardcore games and hardcore settings where yeah it removes the ammo pool but it's like why don't they turn all games like a lot of people just I would annoy you annoying yeah it's yeah it would be really annoying people would uh it would just fundamentally change the way that you play shooter games stuff like armor and daisy you will keep the magazine um I know like in Tarkov you can do a quicker reload where you drop the magazine on the ground or you could do a normal reload where you keep the reloaded magazine or the the old magazine and it goes back into your inventory and then you could sort out the bullets and magazines later whenever you want but it's just it's a complication that people are just not used to and it's just not as fun and arcadey since you just want to press R and you want to refill your magazine and that's essentially it and it works good for a lot of things but what it means is that if you want a more hardcore option there is you know that set of mechanics that you can put into games like you know the armor and Tarkov and things of that nature you have an option to go upwards essentially when it comes to difficulty or mechanical complexity uh as for dogs I would say that if any game devs are watching this um make your dogs like boomer from far cry five make your dogs like d-dog from middle gear solid five or Elizabeth's dog shock uh um yeah sure uh but you don't want all these dogs do in these two games uh boomer and d-dog they're great uh you can tell them to do things if you want but generally they just passively highlight enemies they can be distractions they never get in your way you're not clipping into them you're not colliding with their models they're not getting in your way they're there to support you and help you and they do that role really well you're never upset when they're around they just make the game better for you so those are what I would aim for I think in far cry new dawn there was a I forget the name of the dog in that one uh far cry new dawn dog timber yeah he's great so uh yeah timber is an akita I think for example that was sort of like beach by the way it's you know you just spam e and you can pick up all the stuff around doing death base if you want to do that um imagine you had to play an animation each time of him kneeling down searching a little bit for the ammo is and grabbing it with his hand standing back up and putting it in his pocket I feel like he's he's got dialogue every time like hmm what's this this could come in handy ah ammo y'all y'all remember y'all play the early Tomb Raider games Tomb Raider gold Tomb Raider 2 that's how it was uh yep yeah whenever you picked up an item in those games you had to go over it press the essentially interact or pick up key and Laura would uh bend down pick it up hmm put it in her pack and you know carry on and there was an animation for picking up things underwater as well so picking up shit underwater in those early games could have been it could be a pain sometimes because you had to maneuver yourself like right over it I figured there was a little you try to pick them up because you take so long well the game knew to put that shit in some places as um as as like a attempting looking pickup where yeah there might be enemies chasing you or a trap or something and it took time to pick it up in Tomb Raider 2 even in the very first level the Great Wall of China where you had to get through the the Great Wall and all the traps and stuff if you wanted to get the collectibles the the idols so which there is I think jade gold and silver I think um you would have to spend time getting in place over the item going through the item pickup animation all the while like literal spike walls could be closing in and it gave it gave a sense of tension to that game uh that I'm sure the devs were aware of so you know there's a place for it but there's a reason we don't see it much we could have a whole discussion on different games versions of item acquisition and you know the animations and things and it's that's its whole thing to talk about yes sir uh the only tiny stain on the game the stain on the game I can think of is how they sped everything up in the animations and walking speed for both Isaac and the monsters something you only notice if you play it back to back with the original sped up quite like the animations or they just move faster the movement speed is a little bit quicker yeah which is fine interaction and every which the game needs to be that way otherwise it'd be way too easy yeah the there is a it's like um I don't know I don't know what the technical name for it might be but when you're making a game and playing a game you do notice that there is in good games in bad games they'll do it either well or poorly this this this relationship between the play area in terms of its space and how fast you could move and how fast the enemies could move um if you wanted to if you wanted to make an MMO and you wanted to maybe everyone got a free mount like a horse or a raptor or a jackal or something like that you wrote around in then you would really need to design these maps with that in mind knowing that every player has access to a faster moving mount whereas if you had a MMO where people didn't have those things and however fast you moved was however fast you moved you could probably make the world a whole lot smaller so it didn't take forever to explore everything and you felt so slow uh rags joins the atf in anti-doggo discrimination no very i i am very specific examples scrappy and dog meat and dog meat just because Bethesda is bad at like ai like it's nothing it's not really dog meat's fault we're scrappy yeah i like him i like the idea that in a post-pocalypse you have your faithful pooch there with you like i like that idea but yeah scrappy is damn that's scrappy did you like bullet bullet in Blair witch do you play that one anybody Blair witch yeah yeah yeah i didn't even know they made it yeah they did that was uh blooper blooper teams thing they came off layers of fear and they did that uh okay now they're doing this massive controversy from stealing resources assets oh i don't know they're the layers of fear because it was a game i kind of liked and then i remember watching a video breakdown how they stole like almost all their assets and that could be untrue go do a little research everybody but i would hesitate these days to be uh well to mention them without mentioning that because that is some dire shit for your uh isn't that a controversy that's going right now with that one like post-apocalypse game we're pretty much everything in terms of so much of the assets or like copies of things and even the trailer is essentially a copy a bunch of of a bunch of other trailers down to like the color grading and the the shot and the camera angle things of that nature suppose when this comes out maybe someone can remind me but it's the the day before you're talking about yeah yeah yeah i saw a i saw a tweet that had the day before his trailer next to where they got all the trailers from whether it was escape from tarkov or or armor or whatever other games and they had just essentially recreated other trailers and they just staggeringly similar way um and then just put it together and made it their own which is going yeah which is you don't get the excuse of it being an inspiration at that point right um yeah so there's a video from two years ago from oh it's bob vids makes sense why i saw this video it's called bloober team bites out of the layers of fear dev team copied and pasted their way to notoriety yeah i remember being pretty informative so be curious about what i just meant check that well i wonder if it was stolen assets or they just like bought a bunch of asset packs that a bunch of other people were also using and just used that because they were a small team at the time it could be i'll obviously i'll re-watch the video so i can get updated but i remember being annoyed when i saw it assuming it wasn't as simple as buying asset maybe rags please tie more to a chair give him a feeding tube tie his hands to a controller until he finishes the mass effect trilogy plus me a promenade moller has to play the mass effect trilogy he has to play hellblade he has to play um uh what was the other one uh there's a lot there's probably it's probably witcher two and three um i don't know anything about the first i hear it's really old um but god there there's the other one that i god damn it what is it the one that you need to play that i'm curious to see what you think of i don't know it'll come to me it's weird that i can't remember because it pops up every once in a while i'll play it eventually don't i'm a fan of the original dead space i feel like the remake improves dialogue and will building also adding lore from the comics and movie shows passion absolutely you can feel you can taste the passion in this remake absolutely hey guys i finished dead space remake by beating the boss on my very last bit of puls ammo lol pretty good game overall i'd say i agree great i do agree in the cancel to titanfall legends you would have played as blisk supposedly and rampart would revive bt we need to bully ea into uncancelling it um so like titanfall 2 is really good i recommend every single person buy it and play it is that it rags is that the one no have you not played timefall 2 oh i've told you this but uh okay yeah you should play that single player is really really good um but the problem is titanfall 2 didn't make money uh so i mean you under you have to understand their hesitance to make another like yes it's very well regarded but yeah i'm good enough yeah heard it had great single player and great multiplayer and yeah a lot of accolades i don't know why i didn't do well financially because they released it between call of duty and battlefield um like legitimately like there was like they're on either side they were sandwiched in between call of duty and then battlefield it was battlefield 1 and call of duty i forget which one but um yeah and i don't know why respawn decided that's when they wanted to release their game but apparently that's what they decided on and absolutely ruined that game's ability to um yeah and and plus it it just i don't know travesty add faith uh do you have strong feelings about doom 16 2016 or uh or eternal um i really like doom 2016 a whole lot not just a single player but the multiplayer too which will actually kind of defend um doom eternal just didn't grab me i just didn't really care for it in the same way it just didn't do is you just didn't have that something i never stuck with it one day maybe i'll go back and finish it but i just didn't i just wasn't feeling that game uh i really loved 2016 i never played a tunnel bent to but i just never i really like both i thought eternal was frustrating though it's really easy to run out of ammo and then there's a lot of times you just run around looking for something desperately like a little guy to chainsaw and then you'll get pickups from that yeah i think i didn't like a lot of the creative decisions in terms of how the gameplay mechanics work in eternal whereas 2016 i feel like i could play to this day and really really enjoy it and eternal just didn't it just didn't work with me i just kept rolling my eyes a lot through eternal be like uh i feel like this is just a lot of busy work in here um i made it to the morgue on impossible then the game soft crashed and i didn't save it all ultimate pain though honestly despite playing on linux i'm surprised at how bug-free the game has been oh that's good i found the same thing on p though but no probably would have been saved by an autosave still even if you didn't uh manually no because you can't load remember and impossible oh right okay no autosaves you get you only get one manual save okay wait so there's no autosaves in impossible yeah i've struggled to understand exactly what's happening with that difficulty and a friend of mine was recently telling me about their playthrough so correct me if i'm wrong but wrong it is the difficulty of hard but you can save as many times as you want but you can only die once no no why you can only save one time manually there are no autosaves if you die you either revert back to the beginning of the game or your autosave or sorry your manual save so if you do not die so if you do not die there is no difference between a hard playthrough and an impossible playthrough but if you die you go back to the beginning of the game or if you chose to make your one manual save for that run you'll go back to that manual save i'm not sure either what i had understood was that you get one save slot but you can save as many times as you want on that one slot uh no that would be um essentially virtually identical to any playthrough um you can save as many times as you want it's just like it it's just like a impossible mode in dead space two but instead of multiple saves uh you only get one right yeah and there are no autosaves so you essentially you choose one checkpoint that if you die you will go back to if you die i'm gonna give me one second fucking the newest you've had tv episodes go hit with copyrights like thanks doing it after really love it when they do that so yeah the reason why i was gonna say was um uh the friend of mine was saying that they saved multiple times and it didn't stop it from being impossible and they got the achievement are you sure that sound then what's the whole point of impossible i said i said to them well what's the point that sounds like uh it's the same as sure they weren't they said that as soon as you die your save is poofed so on so then you could just resave so i said could you just all air for when you're like about to die and they said yeah a lot of people have done that that seems dumb why didn't i the way that i read that is that seems so strange so i was the i'm gonna try impossible mode soon enough and find out what the fuck the answer this is because i've been jostled around in all different directions as to what the fuck this difficulty means and you know what's funny is i would have way preferred if impossible were just the exact same as hard you don't fuck with the saving system and it's just other enemies overall and you know like the upgraded ones and maybe even make them fast to add some new moves that would have been really cool and i've been excited to do it other dead spaces they had not just hard mode but like zealot mode on top of that or survival or something along those lines where it was even harder than the hard difficulty i think even if you can save as many times as you want on one slot not dying at all uh is a challenge on its own but you brought out of something malware i didn't even think of where you can just sort of like when if you're dying you just sort of quit the application and relaunch it and it'll like your save won't have reverted from an impossible to a hard mode save like you can still just keep playing even if you die like you can cheese it um yeah obviously i need to test all this stuff because there's lots of different things from us yeah and there i go it's a bit the counter and it's probably not gonna work and goodbye that bit well luckily it doesn't affect the visibility of the video that's you that's good uh i love your system youtube i'll never not love it just brilliant oh people acting like she looks like visceres from episode six uh i think you've been episode eight episode eight is uh i guess i want to say real haggard not maybe they're trying to be deliberate by saying yeah uh i know and it's just funny to me well it's funny and then it's a little bit sad because they are talking about the woman who did the work for nicole so she's just like standing there like okay i wonder if the devs have heard about that complaint at this point um i'm sure they have how annoying that must be to know that's being discussed at length like more so than a lot of the other cool stuff you've done um who are five of your favorite characters mine are visceres thord joker phasma jk and silco phasma well he said jk but then they didn't give another fifth so jk phasma um some of my i mean you named some of my favorites there i really liked a lot of those guys um i of course i really like uh boromir and ferrimir and sam and lord of the rings um and of course my favorite character from rings of power who is uh durin i guess yeah uh yeah i let me see hmm well since there were so many carryovers between those two you know they named a lot of really good ones i mean um you know favorite characters of old time there were some classics in there right like uh luke skywalker i mean vader is unironically one of the coolest characters ever in terms of just that that journey he went on if you take it you know even with the bumps and in prequel trilogy if we try and smooth it out a bit i mean are we i mean forgive me if i just don't remember and i had short-term memory loss but were there any god of war characters in there that they'd mentioned uh well so they said visceres thord which could be war ragnarok could be yeah well mythology hey if we're talking god of war man i think like cindy and uh rock cindy uh jeez do i have to just keep going through all the characteristics in that game just anyone who is featured in god of war ragnarok essentially well that's the thing kratos is one of my old time favorites at that point that game i was like i like to have a beer with that guy that's what people say when they like a guy right do you not like uh do you not really like tazi from amnesia rebirth is she not one of your favorites favorite oh she's on the list she's here the bomb but she's on there oh okay all right okay on the bottom well okay um what about you john yeah what about you fringy both of you go what is your favorite characters favorite characters uh like in general when it says yeah yeah favorite characters in general yeah you go first i'm not sure i need to it's not we're not talking about lord of the ring exclusively are we this is just across everything yeah okay well you can say like portana from halo you know she's really cool master chief from halo for the obito from halo john halo is my favorite character sergeant johnson from halo or the halo ring from halo grunt 493 b from halo yeah this question like pretty recently i feel like i'm sure that we answered the question similar to this pretty recently it'll be fresh in your mind yeah you must have a great answer wow okay i'll use that out because i haven't thought about it much since then yeah it's one of those uh it's one of those questions where people are like well of course it's easy to answer and they're like well actually you know no it's a lot to yeah you got a lot to pull from and you want to pull really good ones part of the problem as well as that some of my favorite characters it's like what do you think that they're like incredible characters like hermes sims is one of my favorite characters it's like well how would you stack them up compared to you know someone like kratos it's like that doesn't seem fair no he's got ourselves some really no from some fresh ones here i mean i really love uh the wolf from puss in boots and perito and uh i really like yeah puss in boots himself and you know goldilocks and three bears are all great um just there needs to be like that armful mention for sometimes there's pieces of media where there's kind of like a whole cast of really good characters like buffy and angel have like 10 at least i would name but people yeah that's a lot from that show um not just because we're talking about dead space here but like is it clark for me is honestly really up there like i just love that he's an everyman and i love how inficient he is and he's not like a badass action hero and like i i i liken him to like on the level of like ripply for malians or something like that just um but like i feel like isaac would be more neglected because he's like a video game character but i think he deserves to be alongside characters like ripply as like a sci-fi action hero yeah um i'm gonna i'm gonna say i really like tabae from uh pray uh the brother character he was a legitimately really awesome uh dude he was the he was the hero of that movie and there's a lot to like about how he interacts with the other people around him uh how he behaves that sort of thing um growing tywin hope yeah you showed me a lot of great tywin clips wow but seris is pretty yeah definitely he was in the suggestions as well but that's probably a decent amount of the next time we're asked we'll try and say small baby will efab cover the 1991 dead space movie they're talking about event horizon 1991 it must be event horizon you talk about yeah obviously made them but i don't know maybe but well i think event horizon anyway no event horizon is 97 so it's not that oh okay to that well there was dead space there was like a a cartoon an animated cartoon i don't know why i said animated cartoon but they're uh but it's sort of like a prequel to the events of dead space i forget what it's called link extraction i think there's an actual movie called dead space from 1991 the description is a deadly virus attacks the crew of a satin space station i'm guessing oh nice just a science fiction thing we gotta check it out we gotta watch that yeah 97 okay it looks like there's some some real creepy creatures in this all right okay i hope i not heard of that brian cradston's in it what dr frank dodden commander steve krueger dr marissa salinger we got we got a whole that i mean it's rated 3.4 but i'm sure it's great out of 10 by the way three out of 10 i'd watch the four out of that that sounds great hey but you know you can round that up to 3.5 and you can round that up to four yeah three point yeah that's right it's practically five that's almost six and then you round that up to 10 really yeah you just do a little rounding just for simplicity sink yeah i'm almost very tempted to see that now it's probably crap hang on a second you guys gonna see this because you know the uh the iconic i think i'm happy to say iconic uh image for dead space the hand in space you know this is the poster of the movie oh my goodness doesn't that look like it's a parody of dead space it looks like a stop motion parody it looks like he's giving a thumbs up i think it's supposed to be scary i don't think it's supposed to be comedy let me check actually if it's horror comedy this could be even better it looks like yeah he's like having a chill time out there he's a skeleton hanging out in space well that's just i think that's probably how i would do it if we wanted to make fun of dead space that would be a really great poster uh but no it is a science fiction horror film it's not but um all right well you know maybe we'll pop that on the maybe pile would you decompose like that in a space suit out in space yeah i don't know what would happen i i'm pretty sure i'm upset do uh so i actually man it's good i i feel like i'm stupid for saying i don't know i feel like i should know what the answer i don't know i don't think it'll be this isn't what we call applicable knowledge well i don't know i guess i'm gonna figure out the deduction right because if it's in space then it's exposed to just vacuum as opposed to i mean that'd still be like light i suppose i don't know what difference that makes and what is what is it with temperature is it colder means that you colder means that it preserves faster uh preserves longer right isn't that how it works yeah so i presume it would take longer than if it was in like miami you know just sitting out there on the beach in miami space yeah i'm sorry i don't know i feel like i should and i feel stupid for saying i don't know but i don't um i like mercer's death overall however i'm a little disappointed we didn't find down where the marker is a fuse to the wall in agony and it's our choice to let him live or kill him that would have been neat um well uh well fringy what do you think about that uh the problem is i'm just i'm i'm totally okay with what they what they presented because to me it just seems congruent with what they were doing build the reason i ask you because i feel like that suggestion would be incongruent with their goal of what they were doing with mercer well yeah because the whole thing that they were building well just say it for me one more time what the the choice was you'd have it be so the um you go down and he's in agony fused to a wall and you can choose whether or not you want to kill him no that yeah that does feel incongruent with me i think i think um i think i think what what what happened i guess to lay it out again because we kind of talked about it the built up mercer is having essentially cultivated this attitude towards the necromorphs in the market it's like this big mythos that's going to be grand and awesome uh and then in the face of that mythos is created like the stark reality it's just totally unceremonious because like everything is created he just made up it's just not relevant to like the marker or the necromorphs or any of that at all and so like it seems really poetic that he built that up and then his death is like sort of just a byproduct of the necromorph and markers and everything just like doing things like just doing things and advancing their own objectives that he just dies um unceremoniously while they're in the process of doing that i feel like that's pretty ideal uh in terms of like an ending and if somebody was presenting alternatives it's like i feel like they're unnecessary i feel like this is it this is pretty good this is pretty good ending for that character i've been convinced more so over to it over time especially thinking about it because i'm running all these scenarios in my head right of like why do we why would we value something grand of him it's like well because of his involvement in the storyline we want something bigger and it's like but his story is specifically about how he's he you know he's on top of it all he is the big man he's the boss he blah blah blah and it's just like he gets to realize and that split second before he dies that he was nothing he was meaningless and he is irrelevant in everything including the story in a sense the at least to the marker and and all that shit that was going on and hence why it's like it's supposed to generate that experience but it has purpose kind of a complicated thing we've talked about this before but when generating an unsatisfying feeling that like the unsatisfaction the dissatisfaction is the satisfaction in a sense yeah you think that there's something to be said about he gets turned into a necromorph and it's a terrible no because i think i don't know um i i think i like that he doesn't even get to find out um like he doesn't it's he doesn't even get anywhere close to what he thought he wanted i get what you mean though like right you could do a payoff that he this is what he thought he wanted and it was absolutely horrible but that seems to me like a more obvious payoff than this is what he wanted and what he thought he wanted he doesn't it's just like it's irrelevant like it's nothing everything that he was thinking about was just like it didn't mean anything like i feel like there's almost a harshness to that that's greater than him finding out but what it was was really bad to do it in such a way which i you know it's it wasn't even easy to do that and they did find a pretty good way of having to be the because he was just standing there yeah the the creature itself i don't even know if he knew he was there i don't think it did it was just grabbing the marker and he was just there and he just gets killed during it's um you know it reminds me of it's kind of like uh that beat in house of dragon episode three where someone's getting fed to crabs and they're like desperate for prince regar sorry daemon sorry yeah yeah yeah save them and when he's arriving he's like yes kill them all save us yes you're doing it and he just lands on him and kills him it's like wow but yep um this sucks to be him sort of thing but yeah uh i don't know i didn't see as much purpose with it but the more i think about it the more i kind of like it and then the more i resist weeks to it um yes i think yeah i'm i'm fine with it um i i might have kept the same exact idea but had the actual thing that does it different um like but the yeah what they had is fine i yeah i i don't have any issue with it yeah i had a weird dream where instead of sticking the wheezes with the syringe to kill them isaac sticks a blunt in their mouth i might do it we're coughing it off already it'd be so funny that the leviathan is like bro i do not understand what is happening the leviathan sounds like a totaler and just doesn't look any drugs or alcohol of any kind to file its body that could legit be a way to fuck with like an enemy in an environment like that if you found weed and like found a way to get that into the filtration system to fuck with the eyes you give them psychedelics so they can't really tell like what's going on impaired in a lot of in a lot of ways sounds dank dank af oh yeah dank af i looked at isaac's face during the intro crash very little panic seems odd i haven't seen it i think that throughout there could be little tweaks and changes made to some of the things that he says a reacts i think what they did was good i think they could have done better with it um but it's just like a general sort of if they sprinkled throughout more of these little things i think it would have helped a lot synthetic man has entered the chat woke yeah i think he said this game was woke so one bites the dust i suppose yeah what a shame what a shame i thought dead space's universe was post scarcity since humans can no it's not post scarcity no it is airing very much in the era of scarcity it is part of the point is on scarcity yeah they are they are obliterating other planets to drain them of their resources to keep earth going at least i remember reading that somewhere like they are just yeah earth has been in a mine restrict yeah earth is stripped and so they go out into space and they mine planets and asteroids to get all the materials they need and they have uh i don't know the i don't know in the the lore how expansive humanity is able to get with like the shock drives i don't know how far it lets them go but when you look at things like the sprawl and there's probably moon base mars base you know mars colony things of that nature um i mean the fact that it's called you know that essentially the feds are earth gov um you know you get the idea of there's you know all these other places and you know things but i don't know uh in the lore how how far humanity has traveled outwards there's so many place they can where is the sprawl again is that on a moon or it's titan titan station okay right there's what Thanos is home oh yeah or he was a titan since humanity can mine asteroids and entire planets for rare resources i figured it was oh scarcity i guess that's why it's as close to unlimited resources that you're gonna get outside of star trek replicas no it's not you know it's not not at all that's technology that's not yeah it's not resources like mass effect would be a good example of like the the mass in the mass drive i mean the the namesake of that series is a essentially an unlimited power source and they've got logistic issues like you can mine a planet which takes ages by the way and then you can send that all over to earth ages how long all that takes wait what'd you say it takes ages are you gonna you're gonna match the planet name yeah let's take that yeah in any case what i'm trying to say is that just because you have the capability of mining a planet that doesn't mean you're post scarcity no of course not i mean we have the ability to do crazy shit that you know a civilization's past couldn't do but we are we are not saying it's not it's not a scarcity issue on earth it's a logistics one um oh well it's it's i think it's something that's talked about with population right like that the population that is here could be sustained it's just that we need to be more efficient and we need to be more yeah we need to be like more energy efficient more resource conscious and how everything gets uh more renewable it was part of why how come the winter soldier was so embarrassing right like they establish in universe they are currently moving things in different directions and then they're like we're just gonna blow up a place where that's happening and move it to places we want it's like okay that's the exact same thing so thanks and then they're like you could with one phone call move blah blah blah to blah blah and it's like you have no idea what you're talking about one that bugged me the most is you could move a border with a phone call it's like no no no that's because that's not going to cause far more fucking problems than it would fix it's like you know i don't even know it's like where do we want to begin with how wrong that statement is like just fundamentally to the core of there you can just effortlessly move borders around just like that with a phone call that whole show it just like didn't want to deal with that was meant to be the show that actually deal with the repercussions of the snap but the problem is that you would need to sit down for a while to really develop like an understanding of what would happen after the snap yeah it's a big deal you need to sit down and really think about it it's the biggest deal it would be like the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of earth half the people disappeared for five years presumed dead and then everything that happened in the intervening five years of like economic collapse war famine and then all the people coming back and it's like well shit i mean when we were maybe start to get to the point that things were adjusting to deal with half as many people now you have twice as many you've got like 3.5 billion extra people who you need to feed and house and clothe and and provide with like electricity it's just yeah bear with me on this one marxism could be here synthetic man thought i've never played this game before there could be marxism anywhere the webcam felt good against his masculine body i hate marxism thought the daily wire reverberated through his room making it pulsate even as the e-fuel circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his merited fear of marxism gaming complete side note i went to see puss in boots this week thanks for you guys coverage i loved it oh i'm really glad you like puss in boots that is an idea i like the idea of isaac rounding the corner and watching a necromorph reading the communist manifesto he's like no interesting interesting stuff yeah you are evil it ends with with subjectivity you could make a game mean anything you want he said out loud that's the thing that's that's true it's a true yeah it's true like if nothing is if everything is nothing nothing is everything or anything can be anything then yeah you can just change the references that exist to support your pre-existing notions about something i mean um the i don't know why everyone's forgotten what this used to be like uh dead space comes out and they'd be like okay so the whole world relies on one white man saving the world and he goes well he makes all the decisions everyone else is either evil or dies pathetically he's the only one that can defend himself and the women what is nicole if not an object she's just to be saved and then oh no she's not even a character her death just matters to isaac as in like it's what he loses it's not what she's lost she's not even a person remember remember that guys remember that's what they used to do that's the thing yeah we used to hate all of these things around pretty much all this stuff you give as long as you rephrase it in a different way it goes from being totally woke to extremely like awfully politically incorrect oh look another male white protagonist who's straight like that shouldn't matter what's wrong with you you go oh look i look like woman's here i look like a woman is here yeah she's older or woman is in charge that's terrible yeah that's pretty cringe all right does halo combat evolved count as a remake that was phenomenal for its time would it be fair to compare the dead space 23 i hope john gets to answer halo combat evolved they mean i hope it counts as a remake of they talk about anniversary yeah that's what i figure right or are they saying it's a remake of the rts that they were planning on making instead like because of changes development i figured that talk i so the thing is is that dead space is a remake whereas halo combat evolved anniversary was like a remaster it had new graphics but it was the same core like gameplay it wasn't changed it was the same core code and combat and arenas so yeah quite comfortable it literally had the original graphics as well you could switch between them which was really cool yeah and they did that with halo to anniversary as well which was neat yeah yeah i really like that i think that's super cool i actually prefer the original art style i do as well yeah there's parts of the remaster that look nice but yeah there's a lot of parts of the remaster that i like as well but there's just something about there's just there's something ageless about the older look yeah it has a very sleek minimalistic style it's got very clear silhouettes in all of the enemies in the buildings the landscapes as well kind of have that a almost strange smoothness to them it's uh it's a very nice looking game and i think i think it's worth remembering right that that halo halo is a nice looking game even now for as much as the technology has changed i would it might be halo two looks better in terms of its raw fidelity but i think i like the way that halo one looks more i don't know what it is there's something almost uh there's something serene about it i think nostalgia yeah it's tough to say is it like this nostalgia i have for the you know original version of what it is or i'm not sure because i think the halo i think halo two looks pretty good if what i can't believe this is fucking happened so oh that you know the actress for the lady who to be okay i'll prime get this mini out faster so that it makes more sense the the last first episode that just happened the actress who plays the the lady who's clearly the bad guy yeah um so someone's been tweeting about how he's in the kind of shape that does not suggest post apocalyptic warlord it suggests a life of luxury he's tweeting a lot about how she's a she's a terrible bit of writing because she doesn't suit in any way she performs she wouldn't be in charge a guy would be and that she's she's trying to say she's too over she's too overweight to be in that environment oh yeah yes overweight famously associated with not being the leader of groups um and she said where's linda hamilton when you need her it's like all right so um fucking actress responded said firstly this is a photo from my cover shoot in insta magazine not as still from the last of us i'm playing a person who meticulously plans and executes an overthrow of fedra i'm supposed to be smart ma'am i don't need to be muscly that's what henchmen are for so she's basically come in with the retort that is kind of what we've already been laying out a whole bunch which is that in order to be like an effective leader more so than simply being the physically strongest person in the room it's a lot more important which is just not the smartest person in the room i mean when was the last time that that was what determined who the leader was in human history you have to go back thousands and thousands and thousands of the front lines you know like napoleon out there on the way the ancient Egyptians didn't just pick who was the strongest person around macArthur was getting off the boats like you know he said okinawa he's jumping off on the boats well i just want to clarify post apogas doesn't mean the end of civilization it means the breakup means after well it means anything after an apocalypse pretty much yes that's the thing oh yeah yeah because of course it could mean the end of civilization but like it could be loads of pockets of minor societies they're still trying to run on there's a reason why we end up with civilizations humans always that's just here goes from the right every the groups get bigger and bigger and bigger and we have to find different systems to control them all and stuff all you get when you get to this point is that they have their system in place they need leadership they need people who know what they're doing to take control looks like i don't know but it looks like she's the one that organized the rebels to defeat fedra in that area i think that's more than enough to earn her the right to be the leader they probably trust her as the leader yeah she makes good tactical decisions she's has a bunch of disorganized people that's a thing like a disorganized group of small groups of really strong people disorganized is not what it takes you need you need broad organization and if she was the person who was there and did it which i can believe then yeah it's just logical because we've gone so little on here she's only been introduced we don't know anything about her until i get my information before i judge yeah i guess it's the thing it almost seems like all that's happened is you were a sort of soft spoken woman i wholesale reject the notion that you could be a leader just seems weird i mean we were joking about it earlier but remember the allies were led by a fat dude in a cripple so maybe there's more to it than just like your ability to engage in boxing matches leaders right it's not like so like eisenhower was getting off of in like in normandy that he was there on arma hard beach with like the first wave of soldiers going in like there's a difference between the role that is occupied by leaders and the role that's occupied by soldiers like a leader is often is often not going to be there on like it's a bad person too right like a strong man is not automatically a person who wants to lead a group of people oh yeah but remember most everybody plays different leaders well of course by virtue of the way leaders and most people don't want to be leaders yeah i think i think what annoys me is it almost kind of downplays it's like the soldiers have a role that they play and they play it well and then you have like you know lieutenants or sergeants who have a different kind of leadership role with the soldiers and they play it well you know obviously if they're competent right and then like it just goes up the chain and then she only needs one or two men with guns that trust her to defend her and then she's golden in terms of like if you're suggesting some guy who's like i am stronger than her i will beat her over the back of the head with a club and take over it's like you're not going to want to do that when she's gone yeah people are really going to respect you i guess it's kind of really weird that anybody would like i don't know man do you feel like often the president of a country would like beat the average soldier at like an arm wrestle like what does that mean anything by way of like who would end up being in a leadership position or not again like i would reference um i would reference dread okay mama is the one that's a gorge oh yeah that's true oh yes of course yeah and i don't know you wouldn't call it post-apocalypse in that will but it's definitely dystopic and it would be like dystopia i think it's kind of so nightmare world where the strong will definitely have advantages over a lot of people and she manages i guess to come out on top i i just i don't find it unbelievable that a woman would be in charge and furthermore i don't find it unbelievable that we seemingly outwardly um i guess you would say not overtly like hostile or a seemingly dangerous person could be the leader or alternatively that that person might actually be dangerous and that they might be disarming in the way that they look and speak i've got a good uh real life example of that like i've been on a lot of film sets and the position of first assistant director if you know much about film sets it's a very high pressure situation uh right hand to the director and they manage their time and they also they answer questions they keep every department in line and more than half the time in my experience they've been women and um the ones i know personally they're extremely efficient just the way their minds work like they can keep a lot of things in mind at once they've got a good rapport with everybody they know how to delegate and you wouldn't want anyone else in that position so the idea that you have to be this big strong burly guy to take command of a group of people like it's dumb like people will listen to you if you know what you're talking about and you're smart and you're efficient with time and you're like courteous and reciprocal she's probably got the um the kind and wholesome aspect down but it's only going to be as relevant as you do what she says right and in the regard to this character isn't it the meme as well that like women tend to be pretty good at multitasking whereas men tend to be pretty good at like very focused activities i can guarantee almost the guy we saw with the gun everyone's saying he should have been the leader he could very well be the kind of guy who's like just tell me where to shoot in our point like yeah i i is it just because he looks cool he's got the beard and the gun and everything looks like you fuck you up and then it's like my head i'm just like oh he's that kind of number two he'll do anything well i mean i thought what look at look at silco silco was not nearly as strong as his like lieutenant at all he's like this scrawny little guy you're actually so fucking right remember the uh this the juke step like hulk creature that stands next he'll do anything that's right tells him to do but he's a fucking hulk i don't know like i i thought that we had a more sophisticated understanding of leadership i know my strongest guide is can we just see more of it please my please just see more of a performance or if you're asking everybody it's it was jumping down this lady's throat let's put it this way i wait and see attitude with the last of us has yielded some pretty good results in terms of our predictions of where things were going to go i'm not saying that age badly like in terms of expectations in fact a lot of expectations have been fulfilled like beat for beat well yes give it a bit of time it's not the end of her story yet like there's still more to it yeah Peter Mensa played Hammond in the original x4 360 vision he was the messenger in 300 who gets spot and kicked into a massive hole hi ragu hello yeah also check out the game pizza tower you massives maybe we will uh they took out the best part to deadspace 3 and save that for this game not gonna lie you know about the side missions what exactly is in this game do you think that's from deadspace 3 and not from 1 and 2 i haven't played a lot of deadspace 3 so sorry what was the first part of that question well the the whole i'm asking the question not them oh i'm sorry i'm curious about the question i'm the question i i i what would you say is in the deadspace remake that is directly from deadspace 3 and not 1 and 2 oh uh outside of side missions is the only thing i was thinking yeah i think this that is about it the side quest the same they took the best parts of deadspace 3 out of it i should be like i'm curious what you think the best part about deadspace 3 if i had to pick is probably the weapon thing like the customization which things are uh sorry i blank for a moment what elements of if any in deadspace remake would have come from deadspace 3 and not 1 and 2 and 3 yeah 3 specifically um hmm i don't know uh there might be some elements of how you find individual upgrades for the weapons and that's might be somewhat similar to how you find specific upgrades for weapons in deadspace 3 um but i think that's the only thing that really comes to mind i'm i'm not certain honestly i'm not as familiar with uh what what 3 added that 2 didn't sort of add i would um i'd i'd have to make i have to go back well because there was stuff that 3 would have added but that wouldn't have been brought over to to uh the remake yeah that's what i was curious if you're enough um you should check out the archive version of the sterling review we're in he refers to isaac as the generic white yeah we read that out yeah we got to that yeah apparently it was stealth deleted i i cannot believe that deadspace was the game that had like this totally dichotomous like horseshoe shit going on with like the work anti work sort of thing i can't believe that's like a lot of people want to talk about that on both sides i don't yeah i just want to i i'm so tired of it can we just talk about the game you don't have to wait a little longer on that front i think for me yeah i think so it's an example to get more to move on deadspace an example i would put in a parody story i would have been like wouldn't it be really funny if deadspace the game that's just you fucking annihilating fleshy monsters in a sci-fi horror game and like people fought over it for being woke or judicious or whatever and think about like the reasons that were cited isaac isaac and nicole's appearances displease me depending on what my political perspective is what is that and they're real people as well so it's got an extra element of means to it gonna right is too generic white man and the actress and nicole is called yeah people if people want to talk about those aspects intelligently or even unintelligently you know fill your boots whatever but like there's so many more interesting things to talk about i've never i don't think i've ever heard that it's it's like it's like go go ahead and do it what yeah yeah but i i just don't i can't remember hearing that before it's very likely i have but it's a british thing i think it's oxford it is informal british yes uh how about do as much of something as one once most bars will be free food so fill your boots i guess it's to so that's the example most bars will be serving free food to fill your boots i guess it means have so much that you could even stuff it in your your boots if you want to to take it home that's interesting okay fill your boots mate the ditto is just like you eat your foods you put in your shoes like you want a plate or a doggy bag type thing like nope i'm just gonna put it in my boots fill my boots with what exactly what do you mean with dignity yeah like i just brought sandals and he brought well so he's like oh i get to have so much more i can fit so much more in here kava i can eat a stew out of this nice boot stew um so that's it for the dead space ones um but if we can we'll we'll chip away a little bit of the stream labs they've fallen behind but a lot of these will be on random things or they'll relate to just my stream so theoretically not even conversation stuff um there is a fell voice in the air oh crap metals in the uk see this is how far back they've gone i've but metals come gone thankfully i remember the thing you said back in if i've got a war plot the gods have got a war one can't hurt each other or some strange rule you criticize but the real reason was because zoos forbade the war between the gods so athena conscripted craters to protect athens okay uh doesn't matter whether or not he was the one who put it in line or if it's some weird magical thing that can't be the big criticism is the premise or the thrust of that narrative is that aries is attacking athena or rather athens yeah and athenas like please stop attacking my like home place you fuck and the idea that zoos is like all right got that's like someone is hitting you over the head with a fucking baseball bat and then your parents say hey no one's allowed to shoot each other so i can continue hitting them right and it's like yeah like okay yeah just no pow pow uh zoos i don't know what zoos is thinking uh wouldn't zoos stop aries from doing what he's doing or you know he would and then it's like and this was before he was an asshole right yeah this is before he was an asshole so i don't understand it it's really strange and the i think i'm not trying to be mean but i think they went as far as thinking how do we make it so the kratos is going to be the one that's hired to kill a god it's like what if the gods aren't allowed to hit each other and he's like the most worthy mortal to do it yeah there you go good luck making that make sense tough one uh now i know what you're thinking if zoos forbade the war between the gods why is aries apparently allowed to destroy athens the answer is because it's ancient times and the age of consent didn't exist wait oh my goodness the good reference that is a good reference wait his prayer a god i forgot yeah anyway i'd recommend the failed divergent quadrilogy for an efat movies arc it was so bad me and my gf took four hours to get through the first movie alone so much insane bullshit in it and the characters are hilarious too especially this four of those i bet like only the first one maybe the first two ever made the news or had any notoriety but they made enough to where they finished it and just you know didn't really bring them out to the public much that's one of those like young adult stories which one though sorry this uh divergent i thought what's the thing that happened with them was that they were going to do four but then they because that was back when they did the part one part two meme a lot um and i think that they made part one for the end but it didn't make enough money so they just sort of stopped so they weren't four there was three but they stopped you don't think they may okay i'm because i'm curious to make the fourth one they gave up or there was going to be a plan to do it in like a different format like for television or something and then they just gave up so that series is incomplete if i remember correctly uh more will stream more because yeah that was we read now yes hi rags hello riches for the gay boy oh thank you oodle i don't know if you knew this but unicorn cum is farmed in and then the super super duper long welsh town name terrible pronounce incredible i wonder it it really makes you wonder what that town name means it's like the place upon the hill behind the river beside the trees where upon which we layer hands upon the cocks of unicorns and stroke until it produces its viral uh nectar from which we derive our uh youth and joy or something like that i don't know um a really strange thing happened to me in terms of media a while back i was watching season three of narcos mexico on netflix which is about the emergence of drug cartels and the drug wars in mexico which are ongoing to this day season three takes place in the nineties one of the plot points about how bill clinton signing nafter is going to help drug trafficking season three they also introduced this new character who i was interested in and wanted to see where he would end up or if he would get killed off later i was listening to paul's show lotus eaters and they were talking about the us border and they mentioned that character the show just introduced in current day is alive and head of a cartel and has a 20 million dollar bounty uh on his head so yeah have you guys ever been spoiled for something by real life news before or is that something that has only happened to me um my real life news i have a i watched a boardwalk empire and uh i was getting so interested in some of the characters that i did look up what happens in real life and i'll go fuck this is technically spoilers for the show uh yeah i got you well all those world war two shows um i i do know it's side wins but uh let's see i i don't know i know no examples come to mind right now that probably doesn't happen much it's not gonna happen too often definitely uh chief long bond of mubley buble she tribe is there any good chance of a real fap of peter jackson's long shlong when there's less going on it'd be an experience for the ages oh it could be that's very true long maybe if you consider hot for tv i don't know shlong the peter hello thanks for years of entertainment thank you for getting me through university fringy please check out tonari no totoro the orchestra version a piece from my neighbor totoro i think you might like it um maybe i've never heard of that uh i'm guessing that's bad no i'm not even gonna try and guess i have no idea what that is i'll post it there in case you're interested uh have any of you seen the menu with ray finds and anna taylor joy i thought it was more compelling mystery than glass onion talked about it yep there's a about it there's an e-fap on it so don't you worry and we do spell i took a time like i talked about it probably because like that's the one that's the one that's right yeah we did quite quite enjoyed that funny pinocchio no no no the menu oh yeah yeah i mean how funny it is really important the person i think yeah it wasn't funny all the way through but it had its moment first donation it's been a long time coming what i'd like to know is what piece of media is the most divisive among the e-fap hosts i.e something more than i think is objectively good that freeing rags thinks is bad or some combination there um things might be divisive before we go through it and watch it again but generally we fall on the same page when we qualify it it's just the way that we feel for certain things can be something that i something that says we generally if we disagree we want to try and resolve that uh we just go and yeah great to disagree we like to if ever have conversations devolve into any kind of toxic way they will usually always settle on like we figure out what what facts everyone's using sort them out and they're against stuff and we have a lot of time we spend a decent chunk of time together very much outside of the podcast which i guess would make sense because we do we actually like each other's company stuff walking about memes and stuff but point being if and this by the way was much more common when we'd first met they'd be like uh you know bow lies is good and then we eventually rewatch those things we discuss them and then you know that's it um so it's actually hard to think of something we currently are on opposite sides on pretty rare um well it's just yeah we we usually like to figure it out i i've never been a fan of agree to disagree it's like feels like we're given up like feel like i feel like if we're both uh trying to like figure out something and and try to become more correct that we would try and resolve it and and get somewhere it might happen more with video games if we further go into those because those could be a bit more difficult to work with and our i think we disagree more on video games than anything um yeah i think that was we tend to line up but with video games there is like some real differences in uh in values with regard to video games and i think it's just because like yeah there's more variables at play it's not just narrative you've got game design as well it's like a huge factor yeah i like the death space remake but that's true yeah yeah pretty pretty iffy and kind of woke so um more than one day you wake up to find yourself on mount olympus as Zeus you hear your misbehaving and woken snoy son has returned after breaking the laws of time and space bringing with him the destruction of olympus what do you do um force feed him beef and power tools until he's fixed and send him back interesting it's a very that's a divinely inspired method of attack what's it's more sort of just help him he needs help that feels like something that would actually be in mythology though so Zeus decided to overfeed him with beef and i don't know bicycle parts or whatever until he was able to yeah until the nair do well became something i don't know oh yeah well all right that's a story i guess eef up gang what kind of fucked up pizza would you consume if you were forced to one with tofu substituting for cheese jam substituting for sauce or cake dough substituting for pizza dough i probably i might go through the cake dough that seems like i think i could deal with the cake dough one yeah yeah the cake yeah the other two really it'd be like a soft cookie sort of thing instead of i really don't know if you can exchange for cheese you throw me off completely jam for sauce is still really weird but cake for pizza dough i could deal with that i think yeah the pizzas don't seem like a like a sweet tart kind of thing to have um so yeah i'm gonna go with a the the last one there the cake atreus father who's athena kratos why do you ask got a name in your sleep sometimes kratos and atreus and that she conspires against you kratos yes atreus does indeed conspire i feel like glass onion is the closest i've ever seen a movie get to levels of stupidity being like levels of dreams and inception where instead of it being a dream within a dream on multiple levels it's stupidity within stupidity on multiple it's stupid on pippers so they win and you didn't understand it uh the misread of people like garbage piles saying that drinker tries to come across as a genius critic just blatantly baffles me i thought the point of critical drinkers persona was even a drunk idiot could make the criticisms he levels against media you can't convince me that he's pretentious you can't the whole thing is an everyman shtick that's like the that's kind of himself all the time uh exactly as far as self-deprecating trying to say he's pretentious is what you actually think is the uh you're annoyed people think he's smart what do you mean well it's smart in an unassuming way right or in a in a less uh overt way he's not claiming he's smart but if you but if you come to conclude he's smart that's like yeah that may well be the the byproduct of uh feeling like he's making really strong arguments but pretentious is kind of like you need to know how fucking smart i am like that's kind of makes more sense to call me pretentious and drinker okay when he talks about yes you are pretty pretentious i think i'm literally the greatest thing that ever happened to the whole planet at least top five top five top five yeah yeah i can see it uh well a brit a british accent adds another 50 iq points as well yep see his new efav tv video on velma oh sweet efav's covering something as cringe as batwoman finishes video looks at batwoman perhaps i judged you too harsh yeah batwoman's better than that show it is yeah velma's the worst show we've covered right it just is uh i think that's very it's the most foul show we've covered yep specific word to use uh i remember watching markiplier let's play deadspace in grade nine oh we were all so innocent have fun more well yeah i mean the let's play era man look um can't believe puss in boots was as good as it was by the way the conscious cricket reminds me of fringy like that's how exactly fringy would react to big jack horner being an evil monster oh no this is gonna be harder than i thought but no yeah he was great it was a great choice god i'll love jiminy cricket one of many many things that were just in that movie mm-hmm i forgot to say this during the black adam efav when satan was walking around i looked at his chest and thought whoa is that the star of david on his chest and then another shy realized oh it's a pentagram on his chest right i think i thought that 2022 panokio was pretty neat overall not as good as puss in boots but still a good watch the only major problem i had with it was the scene where panokio kissed jepetto on the lips with full tongue action was fucking weird yeah that's a weird scene man i'm glad they're they kind of cut that out in the director's car yeah i wonder what he meant by that and that's it for streamlabs and hey all right so thank you all for listening i hope you're enjoying whatever it is you're watching it before this this and after this or you know what you don't have to watch anything but just people going for a stroll in the park and uh we'll see you guys on the next whatever it may be thank you very much for the kind donations messages to the pip here you bye everyone oh yeah bye everybody