 Here we are. So good evening, good afternoon, good morning everybody here We're at the GSOC office hour or today April 20th Yeah, April 20th So We are currently ending the Proposal grading Phase and before we started the recording had a question about the next steps in the process So currently all mentors Gave a grade from One to five To Qualify the different Proposals five being yes, we absolutely want this proposal And one being well, okay. He didn't understand The topic and Needs more work to get his proposal We very quickly see Statistically as all the mentors are doing that Grading Patterns and we immediately see per project which are the top Proposals and there is a consensus This week we are entering the phase where the project teams so the mentors project teams are Putting their heads together to verify that the statistics are in tune with their guts feeling and So see if there's nothing wrong and come up with the two best proposals per project This is currently being discussed Next week We're going to consolidate all these Grades and classifications so the choice per project and consolidate that at Org level the result of that will be that for mid of next week The Jenkins GSOC organization will come up with the shortlist and Saying these are the proposals That we would like To mentor through the sea sea jock GSOC GSOC season meaning that we have a strong candidate a strong proposal and we have a good mentor team so that all The stars are aligned for a successful GSOC So on Tuesday That's where the organ men's and the lead mentors will sit together Make that list it will be posted and proposed to the Google organization and will say We will be able to mentor or projects for instance and Google will come back and say yes, we have the budget To support these four projects or If the times are difficult, they will say No, you can only do three projects and this will be the order We're proposing number one number two number three number four if they say only three It will only be the three first These are I did everything is explained in the Google documents That brings us to They so Google has one week to Consolidate that at Google level so at worldwide level and see if they have enough money to support all these projects and Then on May fourth Well May fourth at Six p.m. UTC This is where Google will announce Who the winners are who are the selected projects So this explains The selection process a little note. We had a huge amount of Proposals some very good proposal some lousy ones too, but these did not attend the The office hours did not make the effort you see that immediately the people that did not review the drafts or so They don't they don't cut it The people that prepared in really worked on it. You see them bubbling up Very clearly There will be some good proposals That we will not be able to Accept because we don't have the mentoring capacity and is something that I feel personally very painful We don't have solid Mentoring team and this is as I explained is something We're very important for us It's no use to to start a project and you full of enthusiasm and and there is nobody there or available To help you go successfully through it. So we prefer to be very conservative this doesn't mean that you need to Give up and Sign up for the foreign legion or I don't know what to forget or I'm going to change career path or whatever I'm joking but so the disappointment Was some will be clear But this doesn't mean that the proposals that will not be selected were bad or that you as Contributors were not worthy. It's only we have to choose between them and I will come back to those interested and They were not selected to discuss together How we what we can learn from the experience and how we can move on continue to build experience Not only for Google Summer of Code, but also open source as professionals. So I'm open to the discussion and give advice for that and I don't want to leave These people They will not be selected alone in the cold and say well, okay now Get away. No, not at all. So we we traveled this road road together a lot of you already for several months and I don't want to Just say goodbye and move along. So no, no, we started the journey and will continue Maybe with less time But there will be interesting things. So to summarize this Selection process will end and will be announced May 4th The people that will not be selected will arrange discussions and Have several ideas of things we can do together To continue the learning path the people that will be selected We Start at that moment The What's called the bonding period so as you we explained and you've seen in documentation bonding period is where you prepare the The project plan and there I will be following every But I think that the mentor lead mentors have enough experience for that But I will as an org will make sure that every project every member of the team Will clearly know how to work What's how is a project going to run when will be the meetings? How is it going to start? So And there will be quite some work there But this will be the real start of the mentoring for the project This will last or Have my papers here around me So it will be for for four weeks. I think something like that and Every project will decide what are the deliverables of that period. I know what I would like to see as org admin And then starts the actual coding that's where the the actual adventure So that has been a long explanation cool. So to a short summary we're still busy rating and Ranking all the proposals. We have a heap of them and not enough mentors The final results will be announced May 4th Reminder we're going to have a special GSOC office hour Not at the usual Thursday. We moved it to the Friday so That we can discuss the first Congratulate the people that have been selected and chat with the people that were not selected and we can exchange Feelings and we can get organized For the both the two groups how will move forward So there will be a track For the people that go on with GSOC and there will be a track Lighter, but it will be a track for the people that want to continue to learn bonding period for the people selected Will last about four weeks preparation and then Actual work Buckel did that that answer your question. I guess yes because I gave too many details of your head I want to ask How are you rating each proposal like yeah, each operation admin is like evaluating all the proposals are a single person is evaluating like a few group of proposals and Is it like how is it so? so the The aim is that mentors grade all proposals Now seen the amount of proposals I don't know if from Google's we can disclose the number But it is a big number it's it's over the 60 And it takes time So we decided that the mentors need at least to mentor that not to mentor to to grade the proposal or their group Where they're volunteered to mentor And We want to have at least three valid grades Her proposal so that means that statistically we have something representative and this works Now a lot of proposals we we have four or even five. I need to check this bridge four to five Evaluation so we we did that with a very How how you say that With a lot of heart because we know the hard work that's behind that It's not an easy decision to make and we take that at heart so you can be You can trust that we do it seriously Okay, are there other questions Topics to discuss or or I Don't know worries What do you personally think of the new idols which are coming up like saddipity and And there is more there's also Autonomous agents like it's like a new trend right now. What do you personally think of all these I'm not sure I understood your question correctly. Can we rephrase it, please? So what is the question? Did we take it into account? I was like, what do you personally think of all the AI tools which are coming up like saddipity and There is also auto tpd which is kind of new and there is I recently read article which talks about autonomous agents which can literally Automate all the tasks which is being done in the industry or in any company and Unless people can just work on focus on like more creative work rather than doing the manual work Which is being done by people daily. So it's kind of a trend right now. What do you personally think of that? I well, that's a good question. It will be hard to keep In in a short short timing and I will leave other people answer. I'm old And I'm I'm I will say honestly, I'm scared of these technologies Because they get so powerful That at a certain moment the human part in it Will we will lose control on them, but Here as I said, it's because I'm old. I've already seen so many things and also some values like the human being Is very important to me so I Think it will become something interesting important and useful But it will also cause a lot of harm And so my personal feeling is we need to go slowly and Think about these technologies and and not unleash them I Control this my personal feeling and and so don't don't stop at that. So We we need to be Careful, but we're going into a Subject there where we're okay, but it's it's a good question and you are the generation Where you need to think about that and I always say we as developer have a Responsibility and what the world will become Here I'll stop if somebody wants to add Something on the subject. He's welcome I've been reading this book by Max Ted mark. It's Like life 3.0. He talks about the AGI in general like how it will overcome in future and it's rapidly increasing and there is like a lot of AI which is being Made so he actually talks about the four scenarios which can Exist the AI being existing with the humans at the same time all the all these Tools and everything so they're like you can have maybe the government rules or maybe some restrictions of doing all these And also the AGI is taking over the humans like humans are being treated like a zoo That's what his opinion was but I found it Yeah, Sonali, I will say directly My fears is That these technologies are very powerful and it just needs a couple of people That are not honest Evil or plain stupid and the power The influence that it can have would be so big and would have such an impact That I I say Well, it is not the form to say that this is one of the reason why for instance nuclear Nuclear power is something where we need to think Very wisely how we do it Because the we're the powers energy harnessed by that is tremendous But sometimes you have a corporation that has short-sighted objectives that will steer that and Their decision might not be the one or the greatest benefit of humanity and here We're playing with things that can have an influence on For the whole humanity so Here we did something we should discuss around a couple of beers or Ortiz or whatever And but it's a great question a great topic To to discuss And thank you for asking that but here I gave my shot. So if somebody else wants to To add we have five more minutes together because I need to jump on another call. I Don't know anything new to add, but I just want to say I I completely agree with Jean-Marc. I think we'll There's we all have responsibilities and we've all we're all given the tool use it wisely use it for the good of Humanity and a hundred and ten percent agree with no mark Thank you. So at least I didn't say but it's Comes from my heart Somebody else has a question or a comment or wants to share something he's welcome. I Also think like what you can say it was right and Recently Few like leaders has Like made a decision to stop training these last language models like what chat in jeopardy is all GPT for us so in future like we are currently stopping training of GPT-5 and So but behind the scenes there may be a case like few people are trying to achieve a GPT-5 or trying to make a new variant of GPT-5 and Which could be dangerous in my opinion like they can possibly like lead destruction of humanity so This should be controlled by like moment or some other nation like how they should approach it This power is like news So at least yeah, I agree with you. We could at least and this is where we have Responsibility and this is the call I do for the younger generation and also to open source is that we Learn that we think about that that we we try building thing in in a responsible way and We're not here only to execute the orders that we're giving by By a boss or in a cooperation No, we have as we're interested in open source and technology at large otherwise you wouldn't be here We have this mission To understand improve ourself think And and make all these things evolve I think These artificial intelligence will bring Something like robots in in things like that, but we need to do it in a Normal pace and not for when not for money, but the year I love open source. I'm biased Here I'm getting into discussions where where a lot of new ones Is is very good topic here So I'm I'm So I'm getting ready now, so we're making good progress and I thank you all to stay tuned to stay in a community here together Exchanging these ideas. I know that G sock Is a very good channel to learn and improve. It's not the only one and Where we can we'll have that discussion later Be prepared that some of you will be disappointed Just remember it's not you as a person Not at all because if you hear that means you good people So but it's it's somewhere a competition, but we Competition is sense. We have limited resources For that so there will be One waiting office hour we can bring other interesting topics like Sonali brought So this will be And then in two weeks We'll know who are the people that will be part of G sock 2023 With Jenkins and will continue In the meantime, I wish you all Nice week nice learning and enjoy Okay Thank you Closing the call here Bye bye everybody