 It looks like everybody's here and it is 5.30 so with that I'd like to convene this meeting of the San Lorenzo Valley District, Water District Board of Directors for November 3rd, 2022 and we have a roll call vote. Not vote. Just roll call. Roll call. President Mayhood. Here. President Ackman. Here. Director Fouls. Here. Director Hill. Here. Director Smalley. Here. Okay. Are there any additions or deletions to the closed session agenda? Staff has none, Chair. Okay. This is the time where we would have oral communications from the public on the topic that will be covered in closed session. Holly, do we have any members of the public in attendance? We do. Okay. I have a feeling that they are not going to really need to be here until 6.30. But. I think so too. So. And Tony. I think as I am Tony, you're. Thank you for getting here early. But you need to come back at 6.30. When you can give the lay doc report. And I think she's going to be here. So, again, you should be there at 6.30. Okay. May hood. Is it worth just. Asking if anybody wants to comment on the closed session. I'm sorry. I, I, yes. Just in case you want to comment on the closed session item. Please go ahead and raise your hand. Okay. Seeing no hands raised. Go ahead and adjourn us. To close session. See you on the other side. Lorenzo Valley water district board of directors. Or November 3rd. Can we have a roll call. President May hood. Here. Vice president Ackerman. Here. There are no actions to report out of closed session this evening. Are there any additions and relations to the agenda? Yes, chair. First off, can we move on to the agenda? Yes. Can we have a roll call? President May hood. Here. Vice president Ackerman. Here. Director Falls. Here. Director Hill. Here. Director Smalley. Here. Okay. Yes, chair. First off, can we move? I have CTV moved. District engineer Josh will over to the, the panelists. And I would like to remove item. 11 D. A schedule of board of directors meeting dates from the agenda. Okay. All right. That brings us to oral communications. And this is the time when we have. Comments from members of the public. And then we will move on to the agenda. And then we will move on to the agenda. On topics that lie within the jurisdiction of the district, but are not on tonight's agenda. And let's see. We have among our attendees. Jenny Gomez. Let's go ahead and let Jenny speak. And you. Have the. I'll try to make it quick. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Jenny Gomez. I used to be on the San Lorenzo Valley. Environmental committee. For the water district. I'm on the fish and wildlife advisory commission for the county. I have been for. I think four or five years now. And the reason I'm here tonight is I wanted to bring this. Really good grant opportunity. And I want to thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight. And I want to thank the community. For an important project that would make a really big difference. In my community. And that's long Pico. And that project is. For Lake. Long Pico. Which is locally known as guacamole pond. And if you've ever seen it or come anywhere near it, you know why they call it guacamole pond. It is stagnant. Fetted. Stinky. It's about. It's been a blight and a hazard. To the community. For about 50 years. It has ongoing algae issues. A few months then. Neighbors. And a few organizations. Together with. RCD. You're kind of cutting in and out. So can you lean in towards your computer? Okay. Sorry about that. The. Project includes trail work. Invasive plant removal, which has already begun. We did an extensive mapping project. And like I said, county environmental health. RCD. Lumpico. Women's social club. The valley women's club has agreed to sponsor this grant project. And what it's for is. Aeration system. For the pond, I've spoken with a number of experts and they all say that this water is going to be stagnant and stinky and yucky and a hazard. You know, and there's nothing you could do about it except an aeration system, but an aeration system would make a big difference. And so we spec'd out of system. We have a grant that's ready to be applied. The deadline is tonight. And all we need is a plug. You guys have a. Pump station right next to it. It has a meter. It has space. It takes $7 of electricity per month. It's only a hundred. Watt. Compressor that needs to be plugged in. We don't have any alternatives. There's no other way to. Clean up this water. There's no place else to plug the machine. And solar is not an option either. Unfortunately, because the panels would be about $6,000. And it would take 71 years for that to pay off. If there was enough sun there. To run the system, which there isn't. Unfortunately, it was completely surrounded by redwood trees. So I just. Please don't pull the plug on this project. All I need is a yes that we can plug it in there. And it's about $5,000. And good health and good water for the community. I guess, Jenny. The problem I have is you're asking us to make a decision. And you're asked kind of putting the board and the district manager. And you're asking us to make a decision. And you're asking kind of putting the board and the district manager on, on the spot. I know you've been communicating with the district manager, but we can't really make a decision on something that's not agendized. And so this is something we can, we can look into. And if you want the board can talk about it. But this, this isn't really something where we can. We can just make a decision on it like this based on a oral presentation. In. Oral communications. So it would be helpful if you told me what, what you wanted us to do. I can go ahead and submit the grant tonight. And then if you could, you know, I'm going to submit some later date, you know, within the next month or a couple of weeks, you know, agree to that. Otherwise the grant can be pulled. They're not going to be considered until December. So there's still several weeks where, you know, if, if you agree, you know, we can move forward with it. And then if you don't, the grant application can be pulled. I think it's really, you know, we only meet every two weeks. So you're really kind of putting us in a bind here. I promise I'll talk to, to Rick about it. But I guess the one thing I would recommend is to see whether the grant could be revised in such a way that, that you bring electrical, you know, off of there's obviously electrical up there. If we have electric, but you create your own electrical outlet, essentially that you control and deal with. But other than that, I think, I, I think my legal counsel is going to bonk me on the head in a minute here. If I talk anymore about this, because we really can't have discussions of things that are not agendized. I, I sense the urgency in your voice, but this, this is not, you know, it's not something we can do for you tonight. I'm sorry. Okay. With that. Let's see. Any other comments from members of the public. Seeing none. We come to the president's report and I have two. First, I just want to draw attention to two letters that are at the back of the packet as informational material. And these are letters from SDR MA, which is essentially our insurance provider, congratulating our management and staff for their proactive risk management and loss prevention that. Resulted in no property liability or workman claims that were paid out in 21 22. And this shows a lot of attention to working safely, which is great for everybody, but also just from the standpoint of the district. This is also a benefit to all of us because it means that. The, because of these efforts, it saves the district money in terms of reducing our annual, annual contributions in terms of essentially insurance premiums. So thank you to staff and recognize them. The efforts. Did you want to comment on that? Yeah, so it's really great. And have they committed to reducing our premium. Because they raised it pretty substantially based on experience over the last few years. It's, if you read the letter, they say you get some points, whether that, you know, I, I don't know. You'll have to see whether that's, you know, 25 cents will get you a cup of coffee or what, but. Color me skeptical. Yeah. Okay. The second thing I'd like to do is to give a short presentation on an airborne electromagnetic survey that is going to take place. And Carly promised to put up a very short PowerPoint for me that I'm going to use to do this. Just four slides long. And if you can just blow it up to the full screen there, that would be great, Carly. And the reason I want to give people talk about this is it's, it's literally heads up. Starting November 6th for a couple of weeks, there will be a helicopter flying over the Santa Lanza Valley watershed at about 300 feet. Towing this instrumented loop that's about 75 feet across. That kind of looks like a gigantic kids bubble wand and they'll be flying over areas in the San Lorenzo Valley. Excuse me in the San Lorenzo River watershed. This is part of an airborne electromagnetic survey. They'll only be flowing in daylight hours. There will be no flights over areas where there's concentrations of businesses or houses are really high, high power electrical lines. So we won't see them over Scots Valley or downtown Felton. However, you might see them in areas around Brookdale on Pico and Glenwood. There's a flight line that's going to go through that area. Bean Creek, Xianti Creek and Lockhart Gulch and Ben Lomond, Quail Hollow and the Olympian area. Next. And what these things do is they, the loop has a magnetic field that's created by current flowing in the loop. And that magnetic field induces a very weak electrical current in the ground, sort of like when you're stuck in a big MRI tube and it induces electrical changes in the electrons in your body. The same thing is happening underground. And these penetrate down to a depth of about 1000 feet. And the data that we get back from this is used to create images of underground geological structures. And they can be used to map. The most important thing is being able to map aquifers. That is places where you have rocks or deposits that are coarse grained enough that you can store water in the pores between the grains, as opposed to impermeable rocks or clay bearing rocks or rocks like the Monterey formation, which actually block the flow of water. You can also determine the depth to the water table, connections between surface water and groundwater, and also places where sea water is intruding into aquifers near the coastline, because the sea water has different conducts. Sea water is salty, so it connects electricity a little bit better. And so you can actually map that. Next. This survey is being undertaken to support drought response and the implementation of the California Sustainable Ground Water Management Act of 2014. And these slides are being paid for by the California Department of Water Resources with funding that was provided by Prop 68, which the voters approved. There's no cost to us as a water district or for that matter to our local groundwater agency. And the goal is to create a statewide grid of electromagnetic surveys over those groundwater basins that are in overdraft. And they haven't quite gotten to our area yet, but you can see these black lines there. They've done a lot in the Central Valley, and that's because the highest priority basins were the ones that were severely in overdraft and have already been done. Next. And the final one. This technique was actually pioneered by one of my colleagues in this area and one of my colleagues at Stanford, Professor Rosemary Knight, where she did it along the coast near Watsonville in the Paharo Valley water area. And they were able to map actually where seawater was intruding into the aquifers in the Watsonville area and up to Aptos and SoCal because they'd been drawing down the water tables so much. We proposed, when I say we, I say the Santa Margarita groundwater agency, proposed flight lines in our little triangular area there that I've highlighted in the map at left to better understand the underground structures in the San Lorenzo Valley watershed. And the main purposes when I kind of was the main person that did this was chose them was citing where we might cite new groundwater production wells within existing areas or rainwater infiltration basins, understanding the linkages between creeks, springs, and marshes to groundwater so that we can better understand how taking down groundwater of ground water dependent ecosystems and fisheries and figuring out the characteristics of shallow rock formations that might be contributing to some of the private well owners having problems with their shallow wells in the Monterey formation up in the Washington Gulch area. And so I just wanted to let you know that this is what was happening. It might otherwise be alarming to see these helicopters flying over at low elevations carrying this loop right over the ground. It's nothing that's harmful. And eventually in a year we should have some really interesting sort of cross sections that show us, help us understand the geology. Okay, so that's that. I would now like to go on to the first of new business, which is the Long Pico assessment district annual report. Rick. I do believe Tony Norton the chair will be here to present this time. Okay. Let's go ahead and allow Tony Norton the chair. Go ahead Tony. Can you hear me now? Yes, we can. Great. Well, I didn't know that I was going to be presenting it. So that did I would. I'm have to say that we are really excited to be presenting this and has everybody. On the opportunity to read it. To read the report. Yes, it was in the board packet and we read it. Great. Then you'll notice that we, every, all of the funds that would be flowing into, to support the projects. Have they, it's already been spent. So we'll, we'll continue of course to pay. And the money will still come out of our tax. At the same time as I presented in our tax bill, but that, but, but it's, it's all been spent and you, though, I think we did a great job in the report of explaining how we're going to be able to, you know, I think we did a great job in the report of explaining how it was spent and we are, we're proud and we're, we're so appreciative of all the support that we were given by our Rick Rogers and his team and Holly. And Kendra there and Stephanie. They were all so supportive. So we'll still, of course, there's one project that still needs to happen. But the needs still needs to be completed. There's lots of steps that as Rick has explained before, we can get to that point that it's on, you know, on already been approved the entire project. So that's the future. I am booster. And I, you know, it's a long report. So I won't go into everything we do have. It's, it's pretty self-explanatory. Yes. So does anybody have any questions? Well, let, let, I see Rick has his hand up. So let's let Rick make a comment and then we'll go to the board. Great. Thank you, chair. Yes. You know, we're asking the board tonight to review this report, receive it and accept the, the annual report from the Laddock committee chair. Post this report on the board. We have a section dedicated to Laddock. Hold questions and answer discussion. You know, it was another very successful year. A lot of the, or the storage tank projects did come to completion. As Tony stated, there are two projects left on the project list. One has been awarded bid that we have probably a year out of pipe delivery. And that is the main line replacement along Zioni drive up to the lump Kiko booster. And the second one is the lump Kiko service lines from the main to the meter. There was a price. Excuse me. There was a project. To replace those service lines. And we opt to do that by force account. District staff at this time. Are replacing those on an as needed basis. The, the rate of failure. Has slowed down considerably with the replacement of the, the PLO. That were giving very high pressure to the service lines that were rupturing these service lines. These service lines still need to be replaced. They were unfortunately installed with a material that was very new to the industry. That did not have a very long life expectancy. Was not known at the time. Put those in. And it was done system wide. In fact, we even had some of those. Not as many city of Santa Cruz had several thousand. That they put in that they had to replace. So it was industry wide that those service lines had to be replaced. So we're doing those by force account. We can do it a little cheaper. And, you know, we have expense. All of the, the, the funds from the assessment district. But all in all, it has been a great experience with the Lompeco folks on the consolidation. Their value customers of the district. And we are supplying them with a safe bottle, wholesome. Water, a very good water quality. And we have been able to do that. And it's been a great relationship. And with that, I'll, I'll turn it over to. The chair. Okay. Thank you for adding that clarification. Bob, you are our liaison with the late. Committee. So I'll go ahead and start with you. If you have any questions or comments. Yes. Thank you. I think, you know, I'm sort of recently been appointed to that. Position. So I don't have a lot of history. On the specific activities of the. Of the Ladoch group. But I know that they've been working very hard in this. And I think the. This report as well as previous reports indicate that. I do have some personal comments from a board member. I don't know if you have any questions or comments. Yes. Thank you. I think, you know, I have some personal comments from a board point of view that I can reserve for later, but as the member of the Ladoch. Board related board liaison for the Ladoch. I wanted to thank Tony and the entire team for their work, their dedication. It's been a long. Journey to where we are now. I think there's four years left on the tax roll for the assessment. So we're, I think, over the midpoint. And I'm very glad to see that these projects are. At the stage that they're at. Okay. Let's see if any other members of the board have any comments or questions before I go back. It sounds like Bob would like to elaborate more later, but let me throw the rest of the board first. Jamie. I would just congratulate the district staff and the. Long Pico. Residents for the commitment to this because I mean, it's been years and these kinds of. You know, partnerships take years. It takes years to make these kinds of decisions to raise the money to go through environmental processes. And so we appreciate, you know, your patience and your good work for all of these years. And, you know, would that it were that every consolidation. I can have this kind of a happy ending because I know, you know, we're, we're going to be on this track with our, our friends in the, our various Boulder Creek communities for a while. So. I love that we have a model that has led to success here. Anybody else from the board, Mark. Jeff. Nope. Okay. Okay. Then let me just go back out to the public first and then I'll get back to you, Bob. Okay. Any other member of the public want to. Make a comment. Except I'm sure Tony is out there blushing from all the praise, but we'll come back and let Bob go ahead and. Make whatever other comments or questions he wants to do. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for this experience. And I hope that we. Apply those lessons to the consolidations going forward. I think we've ended up at a good spot, but there was a time in this consolidation process. Where things were not going particularly well. The board had sat on its hands for. A couple of years relative to getting the project started. And during that time cost escalated significantly. And I think it's important to make sure that. And anybody else we consolidate with. That, that this board. Will. Immediately initiate projects and not wait like that. And I think it's also incumbent upon the groups that are. Working on consolidation. To make sure that those kinds of assurances are built into the agreement. And I think it's important to make sure that. That we're moving at a board meeting. In 2017, 26, no, 2017. Where one of the board members said, well, you know, if we run out of money, we'll just go back to you guys and get more. This was. This was anathema to the spirit that I think. Long Pico wanted to enter into. And certainly I think the vast majority of the community. I think it's important to make sure that we do that. Let's, let's make sure that we do. A little bit better on the next one in terms of getting the projects going. I also had a question, Rick, about. What is meant by maintenance. On the service line, because for my. Perception. We're already out of money anyway, but we are installing the, the line down. That's basically. Being paid for by the. By the community at large. That's what we need to do. And I'm just not sure what maintenance means. Means force account labor, basically Bob. Well. Does that mean. Does that mean that we wait for the service line to fail? Meaning that we cause disruption to our customers. Oner's lives to replace. Or are we doing it at a. Reduced pace where maybe we do 50 a year or. 100 a year or something like that. I'm not sure what force labor means in that. We do it. Usually they start to leak. Not total failure. You know, catastrophic failure or the customers out of water. Usually they start to leak and then we schedule and go out. We go out rather quickly because when they start to leak, there is a catastrophic failure coming. And, you know, no matter if we do it, you know, if we do do it. Scheduled wise and do it, we would still disrupt service, but we would be able to notice customer a little. While, you know, several things before, instead of 24 hours before. That we were going to turn water off the individual. So it takes, so we dig down to the corp stop. And turn off. And we don't turn the whole street off. Usually understand. So. Are we able to do these without having to incur any kind of overtime or off hours. Labor that is, are these leaks happen. Slowly enough that allows us to. Do all of this without any unnecessary cost or any. Off hours disruption to customers. You know, it's, it's a little bit of both, but we do do full cost accounting of all work up in Lampico. And even with some overtime, we're still putting those, replacing those service lines below the recent bitted prices we've got on some of our other projects we've compared to two. There's still a pretty good savings by doing an under force account labor doing it in the maintenance department. So I think doing it under labor is, is perfectly fine. I guess the only thing I was potentially talking about is doing it on a more of a schedule. I guess the last question I have in this is. How are you keeping track of the failures that are occurring and are those failures accelerating my, my understanding is there's a point at which this type is going to me over and you're going to have a lot of. Failures that are going to be happening in a relatively short period of time. Are we, are we seeing this at all? We aren't since we've lowered the pressure when we, when we replaced all the regulator valves, we bought that pressure down considerably. And that was excelling the failure and also kind of a more of a bursting, you know, not just a week, but an actual. Right. So since you put the regulators in the mainline regulators, it's slowed it way down. We do keep, you know, a list and I, I don't have that in front of me and I can make sure James gets that in his next monthly report of, you know, how many we've changed the date, the type, we're even keeping track of material, everything. So we have a good understanding. Exactly what's going on out there. And there's the material readily available to do these replacements when they do happen. I know we're having problems with some kind of parts. I'm hopefully. Yes. We keep a pretty good inventory of the three, I mean, of the one inch poly pipe sizes and we're doubling up stock on all of our brass. So so far we've been able to keep ahead of the material procurement issues. I want to make sure that we understand that the board understands the community understands that that assessment district had these service line replacement as a commitment. And until that is done, this project is not complete. That is our obligation to make sure that that happens. And while I would like to see that happen faster, that's, that's my objective. Let's, let's run for a little while and see how it works with the slow weeks that we're occurring so far. Thank you. Any other comments from members of the board. Okay. Then what I would like to do is. Move that the board receive and accept the annual report from the laid out committee chair and post the report on the page of the district website. I'll second that. Thank you. Any comments, questions about the motion in front of us from members of the board. Any comments. From members of the public. If not, can we just take, voice vote all in favor. I. All opposed. Abstentions. Okay. Unanimously passed. Okay. Next item on the agenda is. The recommendation to award. Construction. For the form and pipeline access trail rehabilitation project. Right. And the district engineer chair will present this time to the board. Josh. Thank you, Rick. As I believe everyone here knows, because we've talked about this a few times. After the CCU fires. We moved quickly. To get water back into the lion treatment plant. The fastest way to do that was to. Get the form and intake back online, because it's the closest one. In that effort. We brought in a local contractor, John Vanderstein, who did. Tremendous work for us. And as part of his work, he cut essentially an access trail. On which to place pipe. Or in which to place pipe. This project is the remaining piece of the FEMA funded project, which is restoration of that area, or at least. Providing permanent erosion control. We want to. Ensure that we're not. Creating risk for anyone downslope. Or. Towards form and creek. To that end. The district published an RFP. For design, which was one by four men. Briar and Loretta. Excuse me. They did the design. We published the RFP for construction. The first time we published it, we only got one bid. So we were not able to open because. One bit's not competitive. We republished the RFP. And then a fair amount of outreach. And received some funding. And we were able to. We were able to open the RFP. And then a fair amount of outreach. And received seven bids this time. Oh, most of them from fairly large companies, as opposed to some of the smaller companies that we've been seeing that on our projects more recently. The low bid was from McGuire and Hester. And I have provided in. My memo to the board. A recommendation that the board direct the district manager to enter into a contract with McGuire and Hester for construction. Of this project. With that, I will take questions. Jamie, I'll start with you. I don't really have a lot of questions about this. I think this is the necessary next step. So. All right. Well, we'll just go on Bob. Yes. Yeah, thanks. I, I was looking at this. I was actually intrigued by the. The material that was. That was there. That was the. The Tesco. The Teco Matt. And I went and looked at it. You know, you can find anything on YouTube now. I think so. I went and took a look at it. It's pretty interesting stuff. Is this kind of the. For the new standard for us for permanent erosion control, as opposed to any other. Nothing. Not really. We don't necessarily have a specific. Technique that we use on a regular basis. What we do. Is assess what we. What the constraints are of a site and what the risks are. And determine the appropriate methodology based on that. In this case, we're attempting to restrain fairly large degree. Teco Matt is the best choice. And it. Okay. So for this particular item. It's the best choice. I would, would, do we think that this would be the same for. The p vine or clear creek. Pipe's would, would the same kind of. Approach be used. Without getting into details of another much larger project. This particular product is likely to be useful in. We'll encounter in that project. I'm reluctant to. If you have any numbers about how much. But I mean, it is a well. Understood. And. Appears to be very useful. The YouTube I was looking at with. Much deeper slope than the form. They seem to be really happy with it. It was in Switzerland before. Yeah. Yes. The Teco Matt has become. Over the last 10 or 12 years. A fairly standard technique and a fairly standard material used. Or retention of slopes. Caltrans loves it. Yeah. And are we going to be doing the same drilling into the hillside and. Mortar and the bolts in the whole bit. In certain locations. Yes. We're going to be doing the same. We're going to be doing the same. We're going to be doing the same. Very site and situation dependent. In this case, we will be using soil nails or. Anchors. In certain locations. Okay. How does this do with respect to fire? Fire came through. Again. Like any. Like any other galvanized steel product. It's. Fairly immune to fire until you get. Fire. Fire. Or fires. Future of just moving through an area or unlikely to damage it. And are we going to be able to. More readily keep this area clear. Of debris. And any kind of, you know. File fires. Fuel. By having this down. Does that help us do that? The two are not related. Okay. Okay, great. Thank you. Mark, I realized I should have gone to you for a sister of the engineering department. Many, but did you have a comment or question? Two comments. Seven bids. Great job. Josh and the engineering department staff. In getting seven bids. And contractors that are. Reputable. The second is on the winning bitter McGuire and Hester. I've. Supervised projects of theirs before they're a very good contractor. They perform well for my clients on other projects. So I applaud the fact that we're able to get them. Good job. Thank you. That's all I have. Thanks. Thanks. Jeff, did you have anything you wanted to ask her? It looks like a very good project to me. Like Bob, I was fascinated by the. Teco Matt substance and. I've had. Opportunities to stabilize other types of ill sites. And this looks like like something I might have used if I know about it. Mark, did you want to pop in again? Yes, I do realize I have one or two. Cost related questions. Rick, is this cost budgeted? This is it. This is a FEMA project. So in a sense, it is budgeted. And it'll be a 90% FEMA. 10% district. Contribution. Out of the 15 million, right? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any questions from our two attendees? Would anybody like to make a motion about this? Sure. I'll move that. We direct the district manager to enter into a contract with McGuire and Hester for construction activities related to the form and pipeline access trail. Rehabilitation project. I'll move that. Thank you. 949 and 80 cents. Is there a second? I'll second that. Thank you for putting that together. All right. Can we have a roll call? Colleen. President Mayhead. Vice president Ackman. Yes. Director Smalley. Yes. Okay. The motion passes unanimously. We move to our last item of new business, the multiple user variance renewals for 2022-23. And we do have the finance manager here tonight to present this item to the board. All right. So it was recommended that the board of directors review this memo and approve a one year variance from multiple user status for the following property owners. A list of the account numbers is provided. Basically what this is, is customers that are multiple user status qualify for an exemption are charged the five eighth monthly basic fee as a single found family dwelling. While those who are multiple users are charged one inch monthly basic service fee. Customers are allowed to apply for a variance if they are not renting out the second dwelling unit. In which we would, instead of charging the one inch fee, we would drop them down back to the five eighths fee. So basically this is just a, another one year approval for the variance. For once it's not my dogs. Sorry. I'm grateful. It's nice to hear. Okay. Jeff, you're with me on the budget and finance. Would you like to comment on this? It makes sense to me. I, you know, if you've got, you know, with only one person or only one unit occupied, it just makes sense. And I don't think it has any significant impact. How many accounts do we have like this? Well, you can see at the bottom. The impact is only 8,300. Yeah. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. It's not 8,300. Yeah. I mean, this is, this is de minimis as far as I'm concerned. Right. That it's not, it seems only fair to the, to the customers. Yeah. I think it's 29 out of 472 multiple user accounts. Yeah. This seems only fair. Any other questions, comments from the board? Tom. No, no, no. The council will remove from there. I think due to the fact that. Ownership changed and likely the previous owners didn't tell them about this. We get the paperwork in on time. Is the paperwork being on time as a state law? Or is that a, is that a board level? Policy. but we do send out letters, we send out two notices giving them the chance to respond and fill out the form. I do know that it is like the the verbiage on the form is they're signing it under penalty of perjury and all that, you know, stating that, you know, they are not renting it out and things like that. So we do give them two chances to send us back the form and if we don't recede them, then that's when we remove them from the list. And in the case of those two, where the homes turned over, did it go to the new owners and they declined to return it? I'd have to look at the specifics of it. I'm not sure in this case one of our customer service representatives put together this list. I would have to double check on the specifics for these two accounts. But I can get that back to you. But if it goes to a new owner, we do send out a form to the new owners as well, when it changes ownership. Okay, so the two owners there, they're not complaining about the situation that they have right now, the fact that they're now being charged for multiple family. I mean, I would have to check the specifics of the two accounts that are being removed. Like I said, I don't know in particular those two. So I'd like to agree with Bob here that this needs to be looked into because we don't want to have a couple of accounts that are, you know, trapped in some catch 22 thing here that's, that's, you know, that's actually unfair. So we should, you know, take a look at this and make sure these people are being reasonably treated. Right. No, when they, when we, when they change ownership and they come up as the multiple user status, we, we send out the form allowing them to rest, allowing them to sign for the variance if they are not renting out the second unit. So that's something that is happening during the opening of the new account process. Yeah, they may not have understood or they may have. I just was curious basically whether it was an issue or not. Thank you. Rick. Yeah, this is district ordinance 43 and 47 that allows us to charge the multiple user and has the variance information in the ordinance. This is not a state law. That's what I thought, but I didn't, I didn't have the ordinance. Well, it seems to me that if we're sending out letters on the change of ownership and therefore also the change of the account name, we should be catching those, those people. Yeah, I'm just hoping it's, it's clear what, what it is. It may, you know, if people haven't lived in this kind of situation, they just may not know what it means. But, but yeah, if we've given them notice that word. Yeah, it explains it in the letter that we send. Okay, great. Thank you. Would a board member, well, let's see, are there any questions or comments from members of the public? No. Would a board member like to make a motion regarding the resolution? I'll move the resolution to approve a one year variance from the multiple user status for the property owners listed on the resolution. Thank you. I'll second that. Can we have a roll called out, Holly? Senator Mayhead. Aye. Vice President Ackman. Yes. Director Falls. Yes. Yes. Director Hill. Yes. Director Smalley. Yes. Okay. Motion passes unanimously. Next are consent agenda. We just have one item, the board minutes for 1020. Anybody want to pull this from the consent agenda? Hearing nobody. How about from the public? Okay, then we will consider the consent agenda adopted. District reports. Rick tells me he has no district manager report for tonight. There are no communications. I already covered the informational material in my president's report. So that, blessedly, brings us to 16. But Rick has his hand up. So I just wanted to state on the two correspondence from SDRMA, one point reflects to 1% discount of the total premium. I think we're eligible up to 10 points for no vehicle accidents for safety program and so forth. So it does give us a discount on our total bill. Woohoo. That's great. Well, 1% is better than a stick in the eye. No, we count nickels, don't we? Okay. All right. With that objection, I will adjourn this meeting. Good night all.