 everything's gone wrong at a time when it wasn't supposed to but so I was even the thumbnail of the video if you look even up here the thumbnail here they're supposed to be a haunt oh wait how do I do this they're supposed to be a haunt hand coming up and holding the Halloween haunt logo but every time I tried to input it it like deleted it deleted the background and then you had to do the background again yeah and then the game Mr. Sandwich and then we got a suggestion from Catherine right yes to do this like sound game and he went and filmed it with like an actual professional sound equipment right I used like I had a portable audio recorder records pretty good stereo sounds so I went and I got some sounds of some different things around the park and it's supposed to be at the end of the stream yeah it replaced the intro to the whole podcast like the whole podcast intro luckily this software that was super easy to fix yeah it didn't take long yeah only played the sound a few times yeah everyone everyone seemed to know what it was though oh god so here we are mm-hmm how was your week anything no it was good not too much new I I guess I would say I re-learned that they redid Montezuma's revenge I forgot that they had all the launch system yes so a friend was talking to me about that they're asking like do they have anything at Wonderland that launches like the same way that one doesn't I was ready to go into this whole thing about like well I know about coasters it has a flywheel launch and blood she's like no no uses magnets and I was like I looked it up yeah they redid it yeah no I mean like it's that they did it that and apparently accelerators opening oh yeah like in a month or something we can talk about that in a bit yeah not just in doing so hot and I think Wonderland is becoming a cash cow more so than it seems like it we'll talk about that too I mean my week it was good yeah what'd you get up to I did the river adventure it's so good like so you're saying we should all go do it we're all gonna go yeah we have to it's so good that I started taking a break from Wonderland yeah helping a lot that's good so instead of going every day you gotta pace yourself yeah because I'm getting bored of Wonderland and it's not Wonderland's fault yeah like it's my fault every day yeah yeah so I'll go if anyone tells me hey there's something going on I'll pop in right film but outside of that I am taken that's good small little everyone is so concerned about me wearing red you should see when we showed up at that he showed up at the park what happened where's the blue we didn't even recognize you oh my god mr. excellent how are you so quick at that that's actually so funny I'm in red I think I'm gonna start changing it up just just different colors yeah I ordered some golf shirt professional merch okay yeah it's make me look more professional in the park yeah that's no more blue hoodie everyone it's too hot yeah I'm gonna read out he it was hot today it was so humid like you couldn't cool off oh my god everyone I'm gonna start wearing red more often everyone's calm I'm even someone on Snapchat's compliment to me that normally wouldn't but yeah I think that's that's all that's now I mean there's a lot of information there's some things that are going on so patreon's if you are subbed to my patreon self promo I actually leaked a lot of information in this month's newsletter we're gonna talk about some of it you guys are gonna get everything because some things have to stay exclusive so for the $5 a month thing you get the newsletter and then now it's $5 a month to get any information because I started leaking some pretty like right like some people are subscribing for a dollar and then like leaving and I'm like I'm like some of this information shouldn't be like a dollar a month and then they're able to piece out so yeah it's funding things I ordered $450 mics that are still delayed on back order on back order but apparently Amazon has like another person that hasn't been stopped yes so I but they charged me already which isn't normal for Amazon to charge they don't ship is it sold ships and sold by Amazon maybe if it is you should be able to just return okay shipped yet it'll just just get the money back yeah so I'm gonna do that because these mics are gonna help with everything I even had some guy reach out to me that once still like help film the podcast with like professional equipment stuff like that so we're working out some details there and yeah some ride challenges coming at 50 oh wow you guys are really good at these thumbnails you guys are making me look like I'm not actually like I feel like I've gotten good at thumbnails but now you guys are doing them in no time and I'm like that is gonna be my thumbnail yeah if we're getting a wing coaster this is gonna be my first thumbnail gig a wing question right yeah oh my god I mean impossible but I don't think so yes I'm hearing similar things not I haven't heard the swing thing yet extreme skyfire but I have definitely been manifesting flight deck and time work yeah I mean I could see them getting rid of skyfire kind of I guess I don't know how much money they make on it it makes some money but I don't know like I don't think it I think I see more people riding slingshot and I think slingshot is like easier run yes it definitely is but both are rented though I think as far as I know yeah so I mean it wouldn't be hard to get rid of and they're gonna get rid of like a million dollar flat ride for a 30 million dollar coaster like if they need the space yeah which I feel like it's so close to the front of the park you know I mean it's all about the swing radius if they're looking for a wing coaster to hit front gate that would be in the way yeah oh ho ho wing coaster but that's not 2025 no I'm holding out on that I'm committing now cuz I keep flip-flopping I think I think you're right I think it's gonna be the front gate and whatever world expo stuff if those two are connected that's that's gonna be like later that's gonna be 20 27 or 8 or something we're coming in quiet oh no okay give me a second guys I can fix that I know exactly what's wrong because I played around with it the other day oh no it's not to that is it cuz it's in use I think give me a second guys give me a second oh right here it makes a difference even just a few yeah okay all right how is this does this make a difference better for everyone testing testing sounds fine to me and I think you know I shouldn't have listening am yet cuz am just can't hear no can am and discord was complaining about someone being quiet Jacob being quiet and Jacob wasn't quiet for me and I think you're having audio issues on your end is probably it's all your fault am yeah everyone else says we said yeah this sounds like I am this is a you problem something wrong but what were we talking about nothing really we're doing our intro yeah yeah so what we have we're gonna talk about everything in sequence you guys are distracting me now with these interesting topic of world expo because we're getting rid of everything yeah literally bulldoze half the park well oh my god shantel how are you you guys sound great honestly thank you now do we look great I think we look great I think so I could use some compliments right about now I'm fishing okay let's get right into some information because this is a rough start top thrill dragster you have some thoughts I have some thoughts I my thoughts are more like agitation I guess I haven't even really seen that much of it but people are talking about the paint and there's some debate as to whether it's primer or paint yeah they don't prime these things I mean like that's that's my that's all I have to say the people who think it's primers that like they just that's just not how they do it yeah and maybe they're doing it differently but you know they usually just paint over top it's white and gray like but that's the other thing too is like if it was gonna be primer I think the whole thing would go one color and then it would get multicolor right they wouldn't use two different colors of primer no the supports are definitely gray like they look good yeah but then the white but unless they painted the supports like white first and then the gray then I don't think that what's gonna be a crime which I think they did if they did then it could be a primer can some mister excellent you're really good at this can someone throw up a picture of top thrill dragsters paint up really quick that way it's not like me using it because I didn't know who's photo it was right we're just analyzing something yeah it's commentary we're commenting on I love the white and gray the supports were already white oh okay never mind that defeats what I'm trying to prove here well I you know I don't know that much about it I just know that from what I've seen when they've painted rides and repainted the different colors like they haven't they don't prime yeah it could be but what is that even know what angle that is wait neural the new paint job yeah what kind of angle is that though I've never seen this picture that's just like from below the tower that's hard to yeah I hate it have you seen it or do you want to see it I guess if someone has it you know if it's just white and gray though that could be Ryan you're good at this too Ryan do you have a photo that you can post in Patreon Ryan has all the photos only coaster he's ever seen painted his primer was George's scorcher couple years back can't find it sorry it's okay mr. excellent it's okay well I mean if it's white and gray that sounds like it could be good I just like there's rumors that it's supposed to be space themed or that there it's potentially space themed see that I could see I can definitely see white and gray yeah here we go maybe some red like accents on the train kind of thing I'm so you can see it going white there yeah that's hard to say anything they could be doing anything yeah Jasmine said white slash gray is giving international space station vibes yeah that the white and gray white and black and then usually like you'll like the USA will be red yeah I mean so like I could see them doing that having like red writing or something and you can make a really cool space oh my goodness what I got really excited there the news and perla trains that light up or even intimate the velociclister trains that light up imagine that launching down with a space theme at night yeah and you see the lights going oh the lighted up train like climbing the tower no cuz now I'm gonna be mad no I'm okay with the white and gray give me the white and gray if it's a space theme if that's the case that would be really sick to be honest with like light up trains yeah oh my god cedar fair please although I wish there were more light up trains because I love taking the seeing those long exposure photos of coasters where there's a light on yeah and you can see the light tracing down the track and just like they're so interactive and that's their marquee attraction yeah so like you gotta do something cool yeah and definitely at night seeing the light shoot up into the sky every dispatch would be cool gonna look like a pale mess in three years you're right Jerry they're already starting with pale colors so it's start they start out pale or you can look like to a flight deck where the new paint job is actually worse than the paint job underneath the new paint job like that just isn't that shape yeah I mean who cares bulldoze it all right so that's all I have to say about top throw it looks like and I will say theme park predictions said it well in his newest video on top little dragster a lot of people are still predicting that the layout is gonna change drastically they wouldn't have stopped construction on the footings there wouldn't have been a lot more footings that would have to go in so it's just gonna be a spike I think it's just gonna be a spike yeah I think that's it's safe to say that that's it I think theme park predictions hit it on the dot your the construction would have continued I think the exact way that they'll handle the launch is still potentially up in the air whether they'll do a swing launch or whether they'll go with just one yeah but yeah that's still exciting now will the spike be 500 feet in the air if they're not changing the I don't know but they I mean those footings are very deep yeah like they're huge right apparently it's the size of like a building yeah yeah yeah and that and that's because if it's the taller it is right they the deeper the footing has to go so that when you've got a moment this way at the top that it's counteracted all the way underneath right yeah well let's talk about the newest news on the block we have we disagree wholeheartedly on this I think I don't know man look at how cute we look in the Levi's and train in the train I think it has the potential to cause problems I don't I don't personally get it at a park where we don't struggle to sell fast lane as it is you know I mean like in in July and August those fast lane lines are not packed but they're spilling out yeah well okay so that's a valid argument if Wonderland was its own soul park yeah but they don't have to implement everything in every part right they don't but so okay I'll give a little context just so then we can paint the greater picture here so essentially what's going on is not very farm is having its worst season ever I don't know if that exactly is true but I do know that not very farm is having such a bad season that they sent out a warning to their stockholders saying essentially whether an economic right the impacts of the California park was impacting the California parks attendance essentially so when that happens you have a chain that has stockholders and investors and you have loans and stuff and you have you need to keep your revolving credit a bank isn't gonna increase your loan or increase this is a key this is the key part so Cedar Fair is trying to delay the full loan payments for as long as possible so they'll kind of like extend but you can't do that if you are showing a decline in business the bank would be like uh no no we want you to pay now yeah we don't trust that you're necessarily gonna be able to pay but Cedar Fair actually just recently had a really successful thing and delaying it by another two to three years I think but with that being said with some of their key American parks doing bad Cedar Point and not very farms Cedar Point hardly selling fast lane this would make sense there Cedar Point actually to drop their gate yeah and a park like Wonderland doing really well essentially what I'm trying to say is you have attendance going like this what you need to do to offset the loss of those ticket sales and those season pass sales so picture you know your graph going down and you have your ticket sales and season house you need to alleviate that loss by increasing your prices on other things or introducing a new product to that would entice people while Canada's Wonderland doesn't need this and what you're about to say is an argument is gonna be a hundred percent valid where it's gonna flood Leviathan's fast lane to the stockholders and the corporation it's super necessary and that's and that's if it works in their favor I think I think if it's restricted just to Leviathan and then probably if they sell them for Leviathan and they were selling them today they're gonna roll it out to Yukon and behemoth but if it's just for those three it might not be that bad yeah and I think I mentioned earlier that the strategy overall might be to give people a taste of what fast lane is like because people might look it and go I don't want to spend $130 right think about people that go like maybe two or three times a year right yeah they maybe have looked at it and gone oh I don't I don't want to spend $130 on that I don't know if it's worth it yeah but then they go and they actually stand in the fast lane line and it's like wow okay it is worth it we actually got we got stuck on Yukon striker last year not for a long time it was like 15 minutes on the break run yeah and they gave out these little things that said oh you can go into the fast lane line once with this you just give it to the attendant well we have all season so whatever we found some dad and his kid who are about to get in the regular of a vial line we're like wait wait you can stand the thing we just gave it away because yeah you know whatever we saw them later in the day lined up for behemoth in fast lane line they they said to us as soon as we waited in that fast lane line of vial and we looked at the regular lines we were like no we're not doing that we're doing this fast lane line all day so I think there could be some of that where they're maybe trying to get people who they don't want to try it for $130 but once they've tried it they're like oh this is pretty nice actually it is and it works like I'll never go back no like anyone I know who's had all season fast lane is not gonna not buy all season fast lane yeah and then once you get a little taste of it but that's the sampling effect in like the business studies sampling will always lead to higher sales now I think what you're trying to explain in the business world we call this cannibalism yes so essentially what you're afraid of is Wonderland kind of cannibalizing their $130 fast line because there might be some people who feel they can get all the value they need yeah for one or two $20 purchases rather than you know buying the all-day fast lane plus yeah so wow like I definitely agree there is the possibility of cannibalizing some I think that this this has been rolled out at a lot of like European parks Disney World does it well yeah I don't think Disney World correct me if I'm wrong Jasmine Jasmine you would know does Disney World have a full like skip the line for the day just skip everything as many times as it or is it just the genie one where you pay per ride but what that being said what I'm afraid there is an argument you're not using that I think it should be really like stated here against this especially you constrictors fast lane line yeah like it does not have the capacity to hold these lines are already I mean this is the thing is later like in July or August oh okay so Disney is both yeah those lines get long like they I mean all the fast lane lines of the big three rides are spilling out and they get to be you know I mean I say they're long as a fast lane but they're long for fast lane yeah so if Leviathan's already gonna be getting up to a 30 minute 40 minute fast lane wait in the later season like they're part of the year this could make it pretty tough especially because if you're selling these things and then you can come back and use it whenever like what do you think the fast lane line is gonna be like at the end of the day wait for end of August September right at the end of the night in August when it's hot and it's the end of the night and people already people swarmed Leviathan so now people are gonna be like well let's spend 20 bucks and get on yeah it's like you could be waiting an hour and a half and pass like that at the end of the night what's interesting though is correct me if I'm wrong but aren't some of the other parks only $10 for this option that's what I heard at the American parks yeah that's what I was gonna say is it's a key part of this is getting the price right because when I first heard the American parks for $10 I started doing math in my head and I was like there's definitely days where you could come in July and the fast lane lines are long enough and the park is busy enough that you would buy fast lane plus and not even get on more than 13 things yeah so then people are gonna start doing the math in their head like oh well if it's $10 a ride maybe I just but the fact that it's only gonna be probably for the big three at least right now it's only for Leviathan yeah just Leviathan I wouldn't expect to see them roll it out for like every ride no but you know what I just thought was interesting there's that one paint new painted building near behemoth is that going to be maybe a store or is the photo building gonna sell it they're gonna they're definitely they're Cedar Fair isn't gonna sit here and be like oh there's definitely an opportunity like you know I'm in Cedar Fair shoes right now they're gonna be like yeah let's even put this at Thunder Run just kidding that's not gonna happen but you know what I mean like there's no way this isn't gonna be rolled out of every ride oh yeah at least at least at least the the big ones yeah but yeah I think I think it just comes down to like how much this is gonna impact the actual fast lane weights because the other thing is there some people seem to think that no matter how long the fast lane line gets people will still buy there there is a limit to how long that line will get or to where people will just be like yeah we see it in our friend group last year around July August yeah we would actually be like oh not worth the wait yeah I'm not gonna ride you on not where we're just crazy that sounds spoiled yeah but for us it's like if we have all season it makes sense to make that decision so like would it even be worth coming at that time of year if you know like well everything is gonna be at least an hour even if you have fast lane yeah I don't know but I mean if that many people are waiting is it is it making them the money they want anyway like it's you know you know I just thought you know how cedar fair is really so I don't know if you guys know this but cedar fair is really working on a prestige pass right now heard that our park isn't set up infrastructure wise for that to launch at our park yet but it will come they could get there yeah it will come I don't think they're gonna get me to buy one I think it's stupid I saw the benefits and I'm like to me it's not worth it like you have to pay to get shade now like like cedar fair parks you have to be I don't like it but as a business person like they did add some they did add some umbrellas back I did I saw that roadside chicken they added those red umbrellas back so I don't I don't know if that was us but I'm taking credit I'm still live it yeah well I'm still live it no no seriously if wonderland's in here right now I'm live it that we don't have a rocks by Tundra twister yeah they were in the I was I was viewing that as a potential dining place to sit their place to eat is the rocks but what what I was going out with the prestige passes they'll launch a third fast lane line super fast super fast lane oh my god I don't think that I don't think they'll try that no no that's too far I think they know oh the poverty fast lane like can you imagine fast lane plus plus oh wow but yeah the prestige passes something that's gonna be coming into the seats again it was wonderland eventually but yeah do anything else to talk about this fast lane I think we touched on we touched on the positive so it's definitely gonna help with a lot of lost revenue especially at a park like Canada's Wonderland in July and August yeah I could only imagine and what a lot of people don't realize in the business world this is what we call free income yeah because it doesn't it doesn't cost them anything to give someone a ride on fast literally like next to nothing especially since Wonderland has their own printers probably if they have a 3d industrial printer you know damn well they have a printer that's printing these little cardstock things now too apparently it's just a receipt oh apparently just take your receipt well then it's really it's a little free my just a normal paper it's just receipt paper yeah awesome well okay so even more money for the stockholders yeah but yeah nonetheless it's it's free money even this is it's considered free money for secret fare and they have to like get these made by another company yeah so it's just it's gonna help a lot with reducing some of those lost attendance numbers not numbers the lost revenue from the attendance numbers and yeah that's essentially it that's that that's the positive yeah the negative is yes it's gonna impact guest experience and it and I guess what that comes down to for me is they always they say that they limit the number of fast lane bands and we've seen them sell out we've seen the sign come out it says sold out for the day right yeah but how is that gonna like do you know what I mean because you can buy these at any time and use them at any time so I doubt they're gonna have a limit for these so wouldn't it like what do we think's gonna happen if you can go to the parking like oh we're sold out of the all-day ones but you can buy these for $20 a ride $20 a ride all day like people are gonna be like no no no see this is why I can't run Wonderland guys I'm gonna be fully honest I'm like a huge corporate person like I'm brainwashed up the wazoo corporate I would like I'd be like launch this at win seeker that rides so popular launch it between 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. get those get those couples buying those things like get like little Mickey ears like I'm horrible I'm a business person but first drop said something hilarious I want to read LeRond has an actual red carpet out for diamond pass holders silly but I like that that's interesting yeah I mean Wonderland used to have express entrance for all season fast lane is well and they have VIP parking but it's worse than talking on the other side I don't know I've Jasmine I agree I've always loved Universalist fast lane it's free if you stand property which I love and then I'm not quite sure how it works outside of that but isn't it only $200 and and that's not like a universal park for skip the line all day but yeah I think that's all I have to say about fast and do you have anything to add yeah we'll be we'll hear a lot about this on the stockholders call for Q3 yeah Q2 and we'll hear about how it's going and how many people seem to be getting it Q3 no Q2 Q2 we're still we just finished Q2 right we're about to wrap up Q2 so actually no this will fall more under Q3 in terms of what it does so yeah actually no yeah moving on okay so we're gonna talk a lot about Dawson City and Wonderland's focus on moving and transitioning into a theme park I don't know what is Dawson City this is my first time Dawson City I've done some research you guys can drag me in the comment section all you want I'm sure Ryan's probably like done every like Ryan probably knows like the people that live in that downtown hotel I'm kidding but Dawson City is essentially like an old mining town that exists up in the Northwest Territories from what I understand it's not prevalent mining anymore it's more so like a tourist destination and they have a lot of tours and stuff and it's like the Klondike Gold Rush era from what I understand yeah and it's the Yukon Territory with Yukon Striker kind of falls into the storyline too but from what I'm gathering and this is from over analyzing the simple little things placed down on Tundra Twisters setting I did notice though that the map was the original teaser for Yukon Striker I forgot about that I think everyone forgot about that I haven't heard that mentioned anywhere so I thought that was interesting that makes me think that it is somewhat a teaser I'm curious to see what they do with the whole storyline with the have you posted the mince in public view but the contract that deed yes to the gold mine yes and it's ripped yeah so I want to see the other half it's got to be whatever I forget the first name but Tyson no no no no Tyson's on it oh yes the striker who's on the other half yeah watch it over here which is perfect because that's what that's cedar points storyline in their frontier area they have the rivalry between between the two businessmen yeah and that'll be probably the same thing here yeah which will be awesome I want to know who Tyson is though yeah like where it is I've tried his ice cream it's pretty good it is honestly it's good what are your predictions for the next few years we'll talk about that let's go yeah I'm trying to do I'm just trying to see if I'm missing anything in the comment section they're all just excited about but you know like it's really good if wonderland does head down this direction like I think it's great like there's that straight away path from timbrel falls to the splash works yeah it has nothing and I think that would be the perfect straight away to build a little town yeah with some shops yeah yeah so that's what I would like to see I think there's a great potential for that to actually come come true I know that they have big plans based off of Grace's little you know smirking right and wink that little yeah that I think that they're gonna do really good and then I think the World Expo is gonna blow a set of water I think so it looks like they've got a lot planned for everything they've been surveying and digging up yeah and just from what I'm heard I heard stuff about haunt and if it's true then like wonderlands getting like a really big budget for everything and if haunt haunt will be my telltale sign if my little birdie is right about haunt this year then I know for sure that wonderlands budget is is massive for ensuring that wonderland moves forward with an impressive image and not what wonderland has been viewed the last couple years they received a lot of feedback about haunt oh yeah oh yeah like just from guests like even you look at the comment section over the last two years at haunt like in their videos and their promos and everyone's like where's the houses where's this where's that yeah I'm all for more haunted houses at haunt because it means less people standing in line but yeah we're gonna talk about haunt in a bit do you have anything to add about Dawson City at all like I mean it sounds cool theming wise I hope we get more of that kind of stuff and I think it makes sense like to continue with that kind of thing the smirk that says it all that's it he oh my god mr. excellent you're amazing literally I should just yeah that was the exact moment that's from TPM vids by the way so definitely go subscribe to him if you're not he makes such great content like such great content that's his interview with grace peacock and the smirk where she's like you know we're not done with frontier Canada yeah like that says it all yeah so moving on to splash works I have to be careful here I have to tread lightly here there's specific things that I shouldn't know but just remember these two slides that's all I'm gonna say what else can we talk about the survey markings all over splashers so let's talk about those things I'll say that riptide racers is riddled with survey markings support structure the support structure has them this sign has them but so many things in splash works has them it all honestly looks like they're trying to build a model of like all of splash works yeah yeah and grace actually confirmed that in an interview with us in 2019 with you on striker that splash works was gonna transition into a lot of Canadian theming yeah it was essentially gonna become a part of frontier Canada which makes sense yeah so hmm do you have anything to say why think about how to word this I don't know I mean they do still have room for an addition depending on where they want to put it but other than that I'm not a huge splash works guy yeah so essentially if we were to make a prediction right would we assume like I would I would guess that riptide racers is probably gonna be modernized into one of the newest newer slides or one of two things are gonna happen with riptide racers can be removed for that new water slide that I leaked last week right that Wonderland leaked themselves yeah or it's going to be removed and modernized into a new mat racer right yeah I mean like replaced or replaced yeah because from what I understand from little birdies out there in the atmosphere is this specific model is no longer recommended to be installed I water parks yeah so you just get one of those ones like from the fair and you get the burlap sack you don't even need water well I mean then I don't need lifeguards cheaper right I'm saving the money all the time yeah um and keep that in mind so lifeguard shortage and pools yeah so whenever you have guards is better yeah whenever you have pools that you fall into you need a life guard you need an extra lifeguard yeah so if you could change the pool to not a pool to not a pool yeah remember I'm just been inside or said that just remember that's all I can say there and then thirdly whirlwinds you know what just remember I said whirlwinds okay yeah I'll remember just remember just remember whirlwinds I don't think whirlwinds is going anywhere guys I don't think it they're removing whirlwinds just remember whirlwinds and then there's markings all over splash works again these things have markings little birdies markings the markings I have a little birdies yeah they I mean you never know survey like do other parks have the survey markings that we get I never see any covering because they must survey to do right like do other youtubers not know these things because it's really telling I don't I don't watch other parks coverage for the most part so I would never know cuz like Cedar Point like I can only imagine if that was my home park I'd be like oh like you know I mean yeah I mean maybe they're more careful about like when they do it and keeping that stuff hidden from guests yeah they can I don't know maybe wonderland just doesn't care just like they're like whatever yeah like whatever it'll still increase our attendance by 30% but yeah shut up with the surf coaster Jacob no I'm kidding nobody else wants to serve you want to surf coaster go down to SeaWorld and ride back wonderland is offering lifeguard training as part of the job post and they are short lifeguards they are short lifeguards this year and you'll see all major water parks transitioning because ever this is a thing across the board you'll see the disappearing of pools and the introduction of straightaways yeah that's something that I can call that an amusement insider leak but where it's gonna go oh you're gonna see the theming like Canadian theming popping up buildings getting retrofitted like the pizza pizza and I honestly think the wave pool area the little splash pad I could see that getting yeah an upgrade because it's kind of like really wonderland that yeah like you know it's I mean the thing is it depends on how much they can actually modify that stuff what does I require lifeguards yeah I don't think so what can you say this is an unsupervised you can both signs like the unsupervised area yeah because there's no like there's not really any water is there just all drinks Ryan I can confirm that you need less lifeguards for run-outs because that yeah anyways yeah well I guess I guess we'll see what they what they add and potentially see see that's interesting because I wonder it's been offering more than minimum at a lot of their job postings and their maintenance team is getting like a I don't want to undervalue their work but from what I understand getting pretty good pay I don't know about their other positions when you're pointing out right now but yeah I would assume it's seasonal too but yeah nonetheless I'm not here to talk about wonderlands wages or shit on them for it because in my personal opinion they've improved from last season to this season oh shit we're moving into the the big 2025 coaster so I don't even I don't know your thoughts I really don't so like I feel like you should take the floor tell me everything you think about 2025 what I think is gonna happen or what I want to see both maybe and I I think a launched coaster is pretty likely I think they know that we need one I think based on where we think the coaster is going something that doesn't need as much height make sense because if there's a height restriction back there you know then that's where you would put something like that yeah I think that's what I'd like to see I'd like to see us get a really nice GCI but I'm not a hundred percent confident that's the best option yeah I think a good launched coaster is the best option I think it's something we're missing that is my vote I think I think talking to people from other parks and stuff too that's like what it's what we're missing in our lineup we've got big smooth graceful coasters you know I mean we've got more flat rides than anyone else you know we need we need like an intense launched coaster what do you think I'm you said that you think that there might be more things that I like I don't know I go to bed at night I have I have anxiety and ADHD and everything so I'll just sit there and I just like my mind goes into it like it's almost like I'm on I can't say that word it's almost like I'm a mushrooms not that I know what that's like I actually don't but like I feel like I just overanalyze everything and lately I've been starting to think okay Frontier Canada like a marquee attraction with a lot of theming because it's gonna have a lot of theming whatever this is and I started thinking like oh my god Gerts Lauer and they launched to yeah and I mean the thing is about these companies like we often go by what we've seen them do before right but like you said Sea World basically had B&M build them the surf coaster yeah on the day right yeah so I mean if Cedar Fair goes to Gerslauer wants them to build something that's not exactly like anything they've built as long as Gerslauer feels confident they can do it they'll do it I know but you know I was thinking back again overanalyzing Peter I had an interview with Peter at the Tundra twister media event and he kind of like looked at me and he was smiling a lot more than he normally does too and you know Peter Peter is like yeah just all about his job like he doesn't yeah he's about his job he's like in his work yeah even on the Tundra twister when they were doing the opening ride he was pretty straight face yeah like the crowd cheering he's just like but he was smiling a lot in my interview and I was just thinking I remember him saying that they go to they go to like manufacturers and they look for what's new yeah and like that's what they look at but was the surf coaster in the portfolio about three five three to five years ago yeah cuz this you guys had to think about it this way whatever's coming in 2025 would have been implanting about two to three years ago I would say could it be I'm gonna throw a wrench in the whole thing something you haven't even mentioned yet right well we know a certain ride manufacturer that wants to step up into the big leagues that has some interesting train designs that they've been showing off oh Zamperla yeah they do have a relation with Zamperla and they do do those launch coasters but I don't know if I want our but if it's a what if it's a new thing what if this is like they're you know they're trying to step up into the big leagues and make yeah like a real prime time ride whatever it is once I talk about haunt I guess I'll talk about so I am hearing from my haunt sources that I don't know if I should have said that here the birdies that I you know the paper documents and all that but spirit manner and corn stalkers might be on their last season this year which tells you everything but I feel like we've heard that before yeah we well I heard that last season because of action theater oh yeah because of action there because we're constantly saying they're gonna put something in action theater it's coming well let me tell you this if act if spirit manner isn't in its final season then like nothing's happening in action theater yeah because my source was like oh like you know they could always just use the other theater they ain't got that not enough room for a dark ride yeah no way oh for another oh should you put the attraction over there and then the hunt to me that's what other theater they mean they don't mean they have to either side is it oh I saying you just they would just put on one set no yeah no they would probably want to do it the same way they did action theater almost double up on it I'm even thinking that it's not going to be two theaters I almost think they're gonna rip like that thing down and they're gonna build whatever it is in there depending on what it is because the other thing is a lot of these I don't want it's not necessarily a flying theater but similar types of rides like operate on like there it is a two-sided yeah right so like they would have to do it that way so much like there like it is really it's evident that action theater is going to get developed into something that would be such a missed opportunity like I mean call me call me an idiot or call me I've been predicting this for so long since 2019 every year but they have to put something eventually they're gonna put something in there like the building's gonna get to a point where they have to tear it down and rebuild it if they don't use it maybe like with all those raccoons yeah the ground the building would need to get gutted I've heard that apparently it's raccoon infested yeah which also makes it seem not that safe for haunt well I mean it getting rid of the raccoons is not a big deal though just call someone in oh my god run run raccoons but okay so that's like 2024 I think is like you know it's a write-off we know what it is it's gonna be the water park and action theater yeah and whatever's going in action theater is gonna be high-thrill it's gonna be family yeah exactly and then you might see like a flat ride by Snoopy's Racing Railway and that's it and that if that they might not need to because they just got a kid coaster right so that might carry them over I carry the kids car over but they it's gotta happen so 2024 my official prediction someone asked me it's water park and action theater again and then you know what it's gonna end up being it's gonna end up being a high thrill flat ride that we don't need in orbiters old bottle and it'll be a new model that's never been built yeah and it won't work time it'll open summer in 2024 and action theater will turn into two haunted houses they'll run it on the snooze cycle oh man you know what you know it's gonna really bother me is if I start seeing a second haunted house go up on the other side of action theater if I start seeing that I'm literally no no no I quit I quit predicting anything if that happens but no fingers crossed guys we want action theater to be developed into a dark ride yeah hopefully yeah it could be fun it won't be thrilling but it'll be fun I posted the old Spongebob thing on my TikTok and it went viral viral oh yeah like it's almost at 400,000 views I think now that's crazy yeah and people all miss it and like they miss the moving seats and all that that itself should send a message it's a cool I mean I've always loved like motion simulation theaters in general so I always used to like it and it's a nice like change of pace and a break from getting out of the Sun like you go inside a little while and well I mean even today for an example it was super humid yeah oh we're sitting on Tunga Twister like literally like draining all the water out of us just like baking in the Sun oh and that metal platform on Tunga the Sun hits the platform and bounces oh yeah we were like you know but yeah I think it's time I didn't answer your question about what I think 2025 is I answered what 2024 is why did I do that I think you talked about I talked about my thought process and then I rambled about 2024 why didn't you stop me I don't know I'm just why did you guys stop me interrupt the flow I'm that politician and in his bait right now that avoided the question essentially my thought process is it's not as simple to predict 2025 coaster as I think it is I mean if we were really to look at you know from the lens of an enthusiast back at Suncoaster super popular Wonderland and I think that a fast tall ride with some cool elements would really blow the GP away so I would like to see that but if we're thinking about Dawson City and Frontier Canada theming it opens up a lot more options than I think we were willing to discuss before yeah I mean I could definitely see some kind of like a runaway train type ride do you know I mean that that's like the theme of it yeah I don't know who would be best to build something like that I think you said Gerstlauer maybe does something Gerstlauer yeah oh my god it would be so cool yeah but it was so funny I was talking to someone on snapchat the other day and or like a week ago and they were talking about like oh I really think the new coast is gonna be mine themed mine themed we don't have that many and I was like stop for a moment we have a lot of mine themed we do Wonderlands Guardian is technically a mine themed ride if you really like her is mine vortex Yukon striker minebuster yeah thunder run yeah and I mean tundra twister is kind of mine themed if you look at all the things the drawings and it's got the like literally the door but that's what Dawson City is so it's a mining because I then I was like no it's time for a lumber coaster you know it's going in whitewater Canyon the lumber mill it's time for that and he's like I forgot what he said but oh he brought Dawson City is a mining city like there's no lumber thing yeah but it doesn't have to be like that because remember I brought up the log drivers and how that was a big part of like the frontier yeah and like sending the logs down the river to the saw mill so they could do like a saw mill theme oh zoom a flume here it comes frontier Canada zoom a flume well I would love to see us get a themed log flume you know down the road down the road we need not right now you know once we get velocity coaster top fill dragster you know the mock extreme spinner and then we can get splash mount no no not yet but yeah TNT themed ride that'd be cool and a Gertz are fit into that really well or you know the mindblower trains with a TNT in front or is that mindblower that has it I think another mine theme the awesome I mean it's a common thing you know it is wonderland Canada's mining wonderland that was cheesy um yeah I mean do you have any further thoughts on the 2025 coaster I don't think so my goodness my favorite part of the season yeah honestly I mean okay so I want everyone to take the information I'm gonna leak about haunt for this year with a grain of salt because I think one key message that I a lot of other youtubers and if I could go back and give myself advice during the 2018 era is when you get information from anyone but yourself that you've done your own research take it with a grain of salt you never know broken telephone is a really serious thing so you have broken telephone that plays into this you have people that just maybe you know get super excited people that think they know things especially higher ups at wonderland they don't necessarily know things all the time either we've heard you know even grace say yeah sometimes I learn things from you like we've heard her say that like a lot of things can get misconstrued so I want everyone to really understand this message whenever you hear me talking about certain things and whenever I say this I do want you to take it with a grain of salt so if you ever hear me go take this with a grain of salt I wholeheartedly mean that so everything I'm about to present about what I'm hearing about how we in haunt for 2024 please take with a grain of salt so now let's get into it one thing that isn't a grain of salt is dark red and this is what I want or this is why I'm really concerned about the information I'm hearing not being 100% accurate is because Wonderland presented the dark red is the only new haunted house coming in 2023 did they not I think so yeah so I'm hearing that not spray farm has actually shipped us for new haunted houses maybe dark rides the only one that actually set up this year that is true because Kingswood does have a lot of shipping containers and we now know that it is Kingswood is essentially being used as the new shipping the storage area for hot so from what I'm from what I'm hearing is Canada's Wonderland has four of not spray farms old haunted houses like the really extensive good haunted houses dark right is one of them dark right is coming in 2023 for sure but what's really interesting is this next little bit of information that I think some people might not like so Wonderland is essentially going to continue transitioning haunt into both a high thrill attraction and a family attraction the shows are going to be centered around you know getting some of the older clientele into the park essentially like a Disney clientele while still being scary like haunt themed like they still wanted to you know but from what I'm hearing it has the potential to be like really high level entertainment like phantasmic was a word that was used so for example if what I'm hearing is true the show on Med Fair Lake with what's it called that lake has a name the inferno lake is Arthur's Bay Arthur's Bay so essentially that show might receive some pretty major enhancements this year and it received some pretty major enhancements last year I think they mainly just moved the location last year compared to the year before like it was a nicer state yeah and the location was better than you to pool they could just jump into the yeah yeah so I'm hearing you can expect you know that showed to be like the main show of haunt in 2023 so from what I'm hearing cedar fair received the message over the last couple years of haunt that guests were really disappointed that there were a lot less haunted houses at Wonderland and not much to do outside of rides and ride lines were insane because of so few things to do yeah which is not normal for Wonderland it's usually vice versa right so from what I'm hearing cedar fair received the message loud and clear and Wonderland is gonna get a lot of money this year funneled into haunt I'm hearing things from you know corn stockers is even gonna receive some love and care which doesn't make sense to me so that's again take everything with a grain of salt yeah I'm hearing the new haunted houses are gonna be amazing again hopefully they fill them with actors like you were saying earlier but from that perspective I find that weird because haunt if you're still gonna draw in the Vontines you're gonna try and draw in families too that's a recipe for disaster yeah the problem is that families are probably not gonna want to be around those other crowds like they'll see that and they're kind of I don't know what to call it but the way they behave yeah they're not really most of the time actually bothering anyone most of time yeah but like it's still something that parents will see with like little kids and be like oh yeah just saw question are they doing a not so scary type event for kids and families so they have during the day like the way haunt works if you're not from here I mean they have like the daytime operations in the park closed for a couple hours and they have haunt so I think all of the like not so scary stuff would be like during the day when they do like the trick-or-treat and they have like people dressed up like scarecrows yeah farm hands and could we see a chaperone policy come for haunt if they are really trying to go down this route could we see I don't know could they target you know the adults for the haunt and then the families for haunts as well and they're like anyone 1800s gotta I feel like that could work maybe I feel like I feel like the crowds that are in certain places tend to be older but again like I spend more time in vampire disco I don't want that in other places so I thought I'm kidding yeah I mean that it's that's possible cuz haunt is a bit of a different event it's it's late like late late at night and it's a different crowd and if they're trying to get more families in that might be something that they need to think about yeah I think it's pretty obvious that cedar fair is eyeing growing haunt but at that same rate that will business word cannibalism is coming into account right so is cedar fair gonna try and push up the teens that maybe don't spend $30 a person on additional things like the families do and buy just an icy or a Starbucks drink yeah they're gonna push out the $6 average transaction clientele and bring in the $30 to $50 average transaction clientele they want to do yeah so that's something to think about that I can definitely see you know cedar fair being like okay so the chaperone policy is definitely a no go at Canada's Wonderland during the regular season because we want everyone like there's no reason to cut the attendance right now there but for haunt yeah they can benefit from even cutting their attendance by a little bit if they're increasing their average dollar the section I also think at haunt they probably sell more alcohol just it's it's nighttime yeah I mean like yeah no and they do good at drinks for haunt like some of the more the more adults they bring into the park the more alcohol they can sell I know alcohol sales are big every everywhere that can sell alcohol alcohol sales are big yeah I actually didn't even realize how big it is at concerts as you know that there are people who will book out like a venue for a concert and their deal is that they get more than a hundred percent of the ticket sales because they know that the venue is gonna sell so much booze that they want a piece of the alcohol money well I have to ask for more than the ticket take to get some of that back-end money because they know like apparently it's like certain certain people who tend to attract like an older crowd of like older you know guys in the 50s and 60s who are gonna drink a beer like all night you know I mean yeah so alcohol sales are huge so oh yeah anything they can do to move more alcohol is gonna make that's another thing right you get rid of the 16 year olds that can't buy alcohol anyways like and then you make it a more attractive environment for people who are old enough to come in I think the chaperone policy isn't crazy for haunt like look what they did last year that's for sure the no-bag policy to me was stupid but but they did it they did it so I think the chaperone policy is a much better policy to look at instead of going after your your younger crowd I think I think the younger crowd really should be you know they need to come with supervision for haunt because last year I like I can't say that I was gonna say like I know how bad the entertainment department had it during haunt they were both security yeah and yeah so yeah yeah it's time that they cracked down on teens during the most unsafe part of the day it's true I mean and they they introduced a really weird late night on Friday so maybe they're gonna be like okay Friday there won't be a chaperone policy because they have a hard time filling in Fridays right or Sundays there's no chaperone policy you know I mean on the day that a family wouldn't come they could do something like that there's different things they could do anything else to say about haunt there's definitely be scare zones like frontier revenge is definitely coming back in my opinion yeah like it would be stupid not to with tundra yeah yeah I'm like Mr. Excellent you're so cute Mr. Excellent is just on the ball really I say something and like 10 seconds later he's got like the so there it is the 5 p.m. 6 p.m. to 11 p.m. on Friday oh that's weird wasn't it always open until midnight on Fridays for haunt no this is so Wonderlands continuing its daily operations there's no gap oh I see it was closed on Fridays in between the close of the regular season and the start of haunt right yeah so they they kept it oh can I get that oh hold on a sec I need to protect someone's I need to protect someone's asking in the in the patreon chat why isn't letting forces here point 48 inch ride height all the violence 54 TSA that's that's the answer TSA yeah it's it's also hard to you know you can look at the coasters and think oh they're you know they look like they're the same size but it's it all comes down to the exact measurements of the restraints and the seats and what size of person can be safely held in the coaster oh wait okay I think you what okay so I made a little a little mistake it's not 400 houses from that three farm it's 200 houses not to be far I'm not shipped to us someone said I don't know if one of them does this but they should have the scare actors ride the rides with people like other parts do so I know they definitely have that for the bumper cars yeah they have the whole the clown car and they have a get on a mic and they can shout at people on the ride and everything I don't think they do that for anything else we did see one guy I think he was from maybe spirit manner he was very creepy and I think he came on spinnaker once do you remember when we saw oh yeah he was staring at everyone yeah that was good and then we learned he was an actual actor yeah but I think he might have like I don't know if that was part of his job like off work and he's the only time we saw it so yeah not says and have for to give yeah so it's to and Daniel did you not earlier say that not says two new haunted houses coming this year so that makes sense I wonder what's getting hammy down but you know what you know what coming from not that's okay because that's their flagship pump park that's true yeah that's like they have a whole team there like a serious team that takes it really seriously yeah so that's exciting pumpkin eaters and their samurai what pumpkin eaters is a good maze though we're getting pumpkin eaters that's it's like you know those crazy pumpkin statues at front gate yeah it's themed to that essentially yeah and dark ride and they're yeah oh yeah so if pumpkin eaters is coming to wonderland that's a really good one so I hope so do you guys like boot blasters yes I do um okay sorry I got sidetracked you have anything to add about hon I think I think we pretty much covered it um this one's exciting this one's really exciting okay so patreons had access to this information um like a couple days ago um it is pretty much at this point guaranteed and certain that grand world exposition exposition of 1890 is going to be an official thing moving forward like a full force focus and it sounds like they're looking at adding like you had said corresponding marks that kind of fall under yeah the umbrella so there's correspondence to follow so they haven't filed everything there's tm's trademarks to follow underneath this so the grand world exposition I burped um there's more trademarks to follow so I mean what's weird to me is anyone any content creator watching right now anyone who's looked at the trademark database or looked at wonderland's trends even uconn striker they follow that they file that trademark after announcing the ride see that's why I'm wondering if this isn't even for rides if this is for various theming yeah like shops and whatever else street names you know i mean fake street names or anything else that they might want uh you know oh a hundred percent i mean like world expo is going to be like uh frontier canada was what 10 years worth of investments no not quite that's such a 2019 no no it started earlier yeah because when did like when did like lumberjack yeah yeah no so like I would say about 10 years so you know that this is going to be about 10 to 12 years it's going to be the I think that world expo is going to be a much better and bigger project than frontier canada and that's just a lot I think I think they have more to work with um I think there's more potential for the space but I guess that depends on what we see them do for the rest of frontier canada in that back area because there's a lot they can still do yes there is yeah but I think there's a lot to be done with world expo there's a whole so many different directions you could take it in with the theming but yeah it's really exciting like um so they haven't touched essentially like they haven't done anything with this trademark since 2013 um there was something that they fiddled around with in 2020 they had proposed a trademark but that makes sense because if you remember they put grand world expo back onto the map that's true that year so and we've seen new um signage up here yeah grand world expo brand new sign so I'm excited I would really like to see those ugly yellow red buildings come down and blue buildings come down um I will say I accidentally saw a teaser to the new behemoth sign um the parking lot sign that covers the uh cell tower um it's really fresh oh yeah oh yeah it's it's not yellow or there's no orange or yellow the sign is like white okay like what covers it it's just red canada's wonderland with the maple leaf okay nice yeah it's cute yeah um it's fresh like right basic um which has me thinking is that going to be behemoth pink colors red white and blue I don't think so so they certainly won't do red white and blue I hope not because that's American right the American coaster um but it looks good looks better than the orange and yellow which I hope they I want orange and yellow removed from behemoth so bad I mean the orange and blue was good when it was like new but it it's gotten so faded that it just looks terrible but I'd like to see them change it oh yeah and because the nice thing about the fact that they like didn't really theme behemoth to anything is that you can do whatever you want yeah I mean behemoth is themed to itself isn't it it's like a play on words it's themed to like like just being a ride yeah it's the big coaster you know I mean like even the sign and everything um yeah that would be bad that's true actually it would be bad in American colors um but there's so much if if the the the the rumblings about flight deck and time we're being removed are true and then someone saying they're hearing extreme sky flyer if extreme sky flyer is on the chopping block then that's a wing coaster like a hundred percent a one coaster yeah um but that is something that we kind of like when you think world expo and a lot of world expo was Asian themed especially that I can't see them taking missing that opportunity to get a wing coaster with a dragon theme I think wing coaster makes sense as well just because it's it's I mean I know we already have big graceful coasters but it's big and graceful and that's to me that just fits like with a world expo theme do you know what I mean yeah yeah I wouldn't like the wing I hate wings but um if we get our launch coaster and then the wing I'll be happy I'll shut my mouth I'm like yes wonderland I love it five stars as long as it's not a surf coaster as long as it's not a surf coaster I hate sorry I shouldn't use that terminology because there are people in here that want it I don't want to like I'm not trying to but why do y'all want a surf coaster like I don't know like like all because that one element where the people can jump like okay go and find canoes and jump I don't know that was not I you know it's not good like it's uh uh band jake up no i'm kidding look the thing is I like I said I feel like we've already been down this road and and b&m replaced all the stand-up trains with sit-down ones at every park that could afford it so you know um skyrider over you con okay no now he's getting banned that's just trolling I loved skyrider you weren't you didn't ride skyrider you're like 16 15 16 I mean people can like whatever they like but no I he I love skyrider I mean I guess that doesn't mean he wrote it but you wouldn't know skyrider was horrible the um helix where you were just a it was pretty bad yeah and then that crotch shot at the end like and then the whole the thing is again the whole time you're riding the roller coaster on a bike seat yeah not um the restraints were definitely the worst part of it it was a talking point for 10 full minutes wait what was what am I rambling again oh I think where we talked about the surf coaster and everything oh yeah um yeah but height-wise I don't think you were tall enough for skyrider I've seen you he was like this Jacob's like this tall I'm kidding um yeah they seem so uncomfortable yeah I mean that's the thing is and that's why so many of those trains got replaced because the guests said that they were uncomfortable so oh surf coaster yeah can we not I don't even want to talk about the surf coaster um but yeah world expo I like the sign I would really like to see them modernize the arcade building because it has potential like I think they should yeah I mean they worked it into the the logo something something I'd love to see them do but they'd never do because they make too much money on the arcade but I'd like to see them like put in the arcade like old timey games like like games that would have been at like old carnivals like that would have been actually been at a carnival from yeah that's like a modern maybe like a modern version of it but like yeah kind of idea like the things that would have been there no yeah that's brilliant I would that would be cool um all right I guess that's it well this is a developing story yeah like it's going to continue to develop and as we see that get more added on it and and they do more work and make more signs wait what yes there is always a lag well for me on my tv and phone just between when they say something and then when we'll see it and uh brennan if you fit or don't I'll fit on pipeline I don't get statused on a bnm oh my god I can fit on the fly and cyclone and tunch I'm good because uh band cj just pan everybody um all right oh this one everyone just had a heart attack everyone oh my change those drone batteries wait am I lagging oh charge those drone batteries I'm always panicking that something's not working properly can you tell I'm a perfectionist oh my god um that was scary my eardrums yeah well get ready it's gonna the viewers dropped everyone's like oh my god sounds like gunfire I can picture the families watching in their living room together right now and all of a sudden this is these loud bangs okay so we're gonna play a little game this is a little teaser we're gonna see how it goes obviously you know the first one for most of you but there's two sounds that mr. sandwich recorded yeah um Catherine I think you watched with your family so hi thank you for the idea it was great um where we record a sound from somewhere in the park and we play it on the we'll talk about that in a second actually thank you mr. excellent that is brilliant um and you guess where what the sound is so we'll start with the first unknown one what it's swamped it's swamped it's swamped quick there we go let's play in the right sound so we'll mute so you can listen to it so people are guessing mind buster or wild beast or vortex nothing right um okay let more people guess it's a good one okay what guys be specific about the sound be specific yeah as specific as you can be there are some people who are very yeah some people are close like if you're gonna guess a coaster also try to guess like what what on the coaster yeah we're getting confused now this is a good one flight deck lift though sounds too slow to be yeah i feel like we need to oh that we just had a very close one there we go okay tight gardener six just got a heath coming back into the station so that is the sound of behemoth coming off of its holding breaks sounds like someone that works at behemoth and is the little clunk clunk sound as it goes oh there that's the sound of behemoth coming back into the station yeah damn you guys are close a lot of you were saying left though i can see why the tires right yeah um i guess here let me get out of this sounds you guys um but yeah um we were going to talk about the sunset tours or sunrise tours right yeah i think it's a cool thing for them to offer i don't i don't think personally i would do it i think um our wonderland budget is what it is at this point and we don't have a ton more you know so for me personally i wouldn't also i've been like i did get to go to the top of mountain for um the ace event yeah which is probably like the biggest one for me yeah so i kind of got to the leviathan basement tour and all that would be really behind the scenes yeah i'm not making a judgment on whether i think it's like generally worth it i think it's more like each person has to decide like do i want to spend that money on that you know yeah i don't think i can i can save for anybody else if it's worth it for them but i don't think it's like outrageously priced or anything um i think i'm going to do it obviously and i'll make my videos at worth it right um but yeah i mean like it's really cool i would have liked uconn striker's lift hill yeah like that that's the whole sunrise tour at cedar point like yeah when they do that at cedar point do they walk everyone up uh they go up the elevator to use the the funicular yeah and they're all connected to the um yeah i mean i i again i would have liked uconn the mountain school too but i think because i've been up there like you have it's like uh uconn would definitely be cool but i mean you get the mountain and two behind the seeds yeah tours and we don't know which rides those will be right so yeah it's really good um which what's weird to me is the two single-use fast lane fast lane vouchers like i feel like they could have priced this a little higher and given them just fast lane for the day yeah like i feel like if you're that could have worked marketing a vip event like you should be treated like a vip for the day yeah yeah they could raise the price by you know however much yeah throw in fast lane plus for the day because yeah like yeah like jake up spring up a good point if you're a season pass holder with a fully loaded pass parking is useless food pass meal is useless and your season pass park admission is useless yeah starts at 6 30 in the morning too wow is that that's a lot of time yeah i mean but it would take a while to get everything done i mean think about how long it takes just to get up to the top of the mountain and hang out there and come back like when we did on ace event it's a long walk you don't if you've never been up there before you don't think it's going to be as long as it is until you're on those stairs and you're like two or three flights on the top and you're just thinking oh my god there's a lot more stairs to do and Brendan's phone i'm getting information about haunt one sec uh it's it's yeah i can definitely see this as being something that for pass holders the value is maybe a little off i mean that's the same as um the vip thing for the fireworks night we did it and i liked it i don't regret having done it but it's definitely a much better value if you don't have a meal plan because it's 50 bucks through the vip fireworks thing but you get a lazy bear meal which is 20 bucks so if you don't have a meal plan then really you're only paying 30 bucks to sit on the patio for fireworks and get the snacks so i think it's more worth it if you don't have a meal plan but so it looks like wonderland has um three new haunted houses in storage but it looks like they might be only going with using one of them okay as a new haunted house this year and then the other two might be like next year for next year yeah which is weird um but yeah sunrise tours do not include splash works what where does it say that mr excellent posted it what does that mean so like how does that what is that like you try to go into splash works like you we know you were on the tour you were on the mountain because you a park admission gets you into splash works how are they gonna like not are they saying you can't go early into splash works like why would you want to go to splash works at 6 30 a.m that's not everything's closed still wait what i don't know what that could even mean i'm very confused by what that could even mean because yeah because splash works is not its own no behind the scenes oh because they do they do it but they only do two behind the scenes like ride things oh maybe they're including because you're walking through the park i don't know it's it's still a weird thing to even put on there you know what i mean like like they don't need to put everything you're not gonna do yeah early admission into splash works yeah but i mean they're not gonna start like they're not gonna open the park itself early on those days like the rides are still open at the same time i guess i guess what ryan is saying makes sense but i still don't think it's necessary to put it there the splash works is like its own no jacob that's a normal thing that they post on everything rides may not be available due to weather or maintenance conditions that's something they just have to include just because guests are trying to be karen's and go well i bought this vip package and on this day uconn strikers like wasn't open because it's lift motor blue and i want to refund um but yeah i think do you guys have any questions before we wrap it up mr sandwich has got a long drive home make it we'll do like five minutes of questions guys i didn't realize we had been live for an hour and a half and jacob yes people are like that we witnessed it today when leviathan went down for a lightning storm being above the park and people are like why isn't the like the ride open there's like this really dark cloud passing over leviathan going to wonderland in a few days what would you recommend doing to get on as many rides as possible if you don't have fast lane head on over to world expo and action zone and all that first i was i was gonna be a jerry can be like by a fast lane fan that's what you do to get on as many rides as possible um yeah i mean there's there's different strategies to go going the other way can work i would say it depends on if you if you can get there and be like at the front of rope drop for leviathan so you're going to be like one of the first people on leviathan yeah then it makes sense to go that way first because then you'll be one of the first people off and then you can go get on you conor behemoth before the crowd gets there but if you get there and there's already like 200 people in front of you like ready to go on leviathan then yeah if you go the other way you'll probably have a better because you'll kind of avoid that crowd for the first one rides um how far does mr sandwich live it's about an hour and a half depending on traffic people say to go to med first i would never recommend going to med first med fair first because it just unless you're a quick runner and you can book it like pass everyone and get to leviathan first and then run over to yeah that's what i'm saying if you can get on leviathan first i think med fair first makes sense but only if you can get like on the first couple of cycles yeah tundra twister does have fast lane available do you think action theater could get an intimate straddle ghoster no it would be like the smallest like it would do a figure eight like it'd be when are they gonna add more places to sit to eat and shade i mean honestly i wish i knew the answer to that question but hopefully they'll continue to add more we've been sitting on a lot of concrete this year especially by the chicken shack yeah that little garden bed concrete thing we've been sitting on it's kind of embarrassing like honestly like wonderland like you really do need to add more seating and shade like you really do there's not enough where is the restaurants yeah where's krega um riding a motorcycle would it pull a dark coaster no it couldn't fit a dark coaster in there i'm interested to know what mazes y'all have let's see do you know what mazes i'm i'm messaging a bird give me a second do you know what mazes what if leviathan had light up trains i would love it what's better fast lane or single rider line i mean single rider line is free but sometimes it can take a while it could fit taxi jam in there literally on either side yeah it could potentially fit no it could fit a family coaster if done right like it would be all turns like you'd really be yeah yeah yeah a lot of laterals last thing is a lot better on saturday so yeah uh how would a park evacuate a vertical lift that's a very interesting question you fall jump the trampoline i don't know actually that's a good question i feel like al tore ryan should do a video on that they probably they've got to have something similar to like the things for evacing off of windseeker right something that would climb up like do those vertical lifts do they have like because they couldn't have a staircase obviously so they have like a little elevator like uconn has one sec okay the single rider line really get you on the ride faster sometimes it does maybe even a lot of the time it does i don't stand in it but i know that sometimes it does for sure i really do look cute in red i'm gonna i'm gonna wear more red um i have a question for you ask away melissa you asked me a question i totally uh i don't know that's why that's my fault 100 where is the elevator well you posted a photo of the drop of everything but where the elevator is not on the drop i will say that that is not where the elevator is um senior you're a fighter with an elevator but how would you get on the elevator from the lift i mean that's that i don't know there's gotta be a procedure for it though then where is jacob you're being really annoying uh it's on the lift hill jacob oh my god it's on the left side holy crap it's on the left side of the ride usually they park it at the bottom but sometimes it's parked at the top oh what's with the capitals anyways um i'm getting sassy can you tell i need sleep yes it's right there to the left yeah so you can see on the far left of that there's like a cable yeah and that that's uh what paul's the elevator car up and down right next to the staircase yeah on the left side the smaller staircase there's the elevator lift orine does look amazing at night they i wish our coasters had lighting packages too i do yeah yeah okay so they have it someone answered the question about the vertical lift so the infinity coasters use magnetic anti rollback so they slowly move down intimate uses a second chain on their older vertical lifts to move it back down i have a trick question for everyone how what is flight dex anti rollback do do do do do do do do do you know flight dex anti rollback it's kind of sketchy isn't it just steel plate cut into like a tooth shape like every other no no what is it let's see if someone guesses it and then we'll answer it quickly and then we're going to end because he's got to go home poor mrs sandwich non-existent it better not be non-existent i'm just gonna roll that is the old swings of the century yes uh non-existent i mean no it has an anti rollback no one knows i yes it is a break essentially it's a fin so the train is a fin or it's one of the two either the lift hills of fin or the train's fins and then if something goes wrong the uh it locks like that's its anti rollback is it is that handled by the logic controller or is that like a mechanical system that if the train tries to go backwards that it will force those i have no idea it better be mechanical that's a logic thing it has to be mechanical there's no way some of you imagine that there would have been a problem already yeah that was a logic i think it's a fail so if like it's got to be somewhere if the train tries to move back it forces those closed i'm sure sky rush uses it too to be honest to be for real i don't care much about foot i'm not gonna i'm never gonna go on it so it's not gonna be a problem for me but i love flight that it's terrible it's terrible um but yeah i guess that's it yeah thanks for joining us for another episode thanks for coming by um we are gonna figure something out um to get mr. sandwich virtually maybe even sometimes yeah and then that also means we can possibly have some patreon people and virtually to ask questions and stuff and be a part of it more so that's part of my plan to work even more benefits into patreon people as well i've been doing some research on using discord um as part of the streaming platform but yeah yeah all right bye