 Question is from Denay Jor. What's your guy's opinion on the food is medicine notion? I love that, yeah. Who is one of the first people to say that, Doug? Is that? Apocrates. Apocrates, yeah. Those are apocrates. It's funny because people don't truly think, you know, you are what you eat, you know what I'm saying? It's true. What you eat goes in your mouth and then your body assimilates it and it becomes a party of your body. I can't think of a more clear, easy way of understanding that your food completely affects your health 100%. And how you eat is probably, it's gotta be one of the top three things that'll affect your overall health. I can't think of too many things that is above that. Well, I mean, I feel like it's so obvious too. We have all these different macro and micronutrients that do specific things in the body and make it run efficiently. And yes, we are incredibly resilient that if we don't have some of these things, we don't die the next day, we can get by. Just like if you don't change your oil in your car for a long period of time, it doesn't just die out of nowhere because of the oil ran dry. It'll keep running for a while, just not very effectively. And I feel the body is very similar. Like if we lack nutrients and we don't feed the body what it needs, it doesn't, we don't die the next day, but it starts to run less optimally and less and less and less and then that makes you susceptible for disease and other things because you're not feeding it the way you should. So I think absolutely I like that notion. And I think that more people should look at it like that. I think right now, a majority of the population, we look at eating as like a pleasure thing because we're there, right? We live in a time now where nobody is worried about dying from starvation. And you can be so choosy, right? Yeah, it's all about pleasure. Oh, I don't feel like that. This sounds better. When we sit here and we go back and forth and argue over what we're gonna have to deliver. Well, such a convenience now. Yeah. Like that's the thing. It's like, we just have so much of it now that we've, I think we've lost track of the fact that like what we're actually consuming in our body, that's the raw materials. That's the building blocks for all the cells in your body. It's like, of course, that's part of you. So in terms of like looking for quality, I've always thought that, yeah, that's the way we should go. And it is gonna affect you and your body is gonna be made up of what you put in it. So why not try to, your best, to always kind of look for adding in the best stuff. And training, this was like one of the things I really enjoyed about training and bodybuilding, right? Like, because I had to measure and track and pay really closer attention than I ever have in my entire life, it really gives you an idea of like, wow, how powerful eating certain foods are and how it can affect the body. I mean, it really does highlight that when you can manipulate your fiber in just the slightest bit. And when you are so detailed like that, it's like instantly, I noticed a difference in my stool or if I inject an extra 100 grams of carbohydrates a day, like holy crap, all of a sudden my workout, it feels like it's 10 times better. And when you're really dialed in like that, you can really start to tell the difference of all these micro- and macronutrients that you're either giving to the body or taking away from the body. And I think that just highlights like how powerful that really is. And I just think that for the most part, most people are over consuming so much stuff that you're kind of numb to how much food can be medicine to our body. We don't value it because it's everywhere. We were, when we were in Arizona, Adam, I took a Uber when we were going to the dinner or whatever when I came and picked you up. And the driver was, he was obviously foreign and I love it when I meet somebody, especially an Uber driver when they're foreign, I like to ask him where they're from and what brought you here and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, the man was Ethiopian and he came here, he was older, he came here in the late 80s as a refugee. So he's actually part of a refugee program that brought him over. Anyway, he has five kids and he's talking about his kids going to college or something like that. So then I asked him, I said, because I'm the product of immigrants, I said, what shocked you the most or surprised you the most about America? And he goes, you guys have so much food that you throw food away. Because I couldn't believe how people, it was like, we have so much, we just throw it away. Because it took me so long to get used to the fact that you guys have so much. And that's just the position in the state that we're in. Now, as far as food as medicine is concerned, look, I'll give you a very specific example. And we identified this a long time ago. For certain types of epilepsy, you could change your diet and stop having seizures for certain types. You can go on a ketogenic diet and we've been treating epilepsy this way way before we had drugs, change your diet. Wow, look, the kid doesn't have seizures anymore. I've had female clients who weren't getting their period and had hormone imbalances and by working with their nutritionists, they bumped their protein, bumped their fat, all of a sudden they freaking... Boom, and they conceive, you know what I mean? I know that food, there's studies that show that food can, eating a certain way can reduce your susceptibility to viruses or bacterial infection. Look at your digestion. If you have poor digestion, does that affect the rest of your body? Absolutely. Does changing your nutrition potentially improve your digestion? Yes, it does. So there are both acute effects from food where it's almost like Western medicine, like taking a pill, and then of course there's long stream downstream effect. So the best medicine is food. That's the best medicine is general and you do it every single day. You put it in your mouth and eat it every single day. And I think too, like why we've gone away from it is because it's interesting because we just consume food but we don't pay attention to how we react afterwards as well. Like we've talked about this ad nauseam, like where I will eat something, be affected by it, won't trace back that, you know, the food had anything to do with that. Meanwhile, if we're taking medicine, like in concentrated form, like we're expecting to feel something. That's all we're focused on. Don't you guys really think this has a lot to do with the, because we over consume so much that we get away with a lot of bullshit? Like if we lived in a time where like food was really scarce. Oh, we would value it totally differently. And we, and like you, it was like you needed the calories every time you ate because you were all, most of the time you were depleted. And then if you were also making poor choices, nutritionally, like your body would let you know right away. Like if you only could get to 1500 calories and back then, right, that's all you could ever get to. And then you made the choice of it's always lemon heads. You know, if your body would fucking let you know really quick that that's not nourishing the body at all. But because we have so much shit and it's all fortified with different things and you're getting, at least you're getting some fuel in there. We, oh, we're fine. We're okay. With drugs and, you know, medicines and ibuprofen and alcohol. And then we start to believe that our condition is just a part of who we are. You know, I'm just having insomnia. I just have poor sleep all the time. Yeah, I always take a laxative because I just have bad digestion or I always have heartburn, you know? So I have to pop rollades all the time or whatever. Not realizing that your food can fix you, you know? Sailors in the past would use, you know, lemons and oranges to cure scurvy, which was a disease. So absolutely 100%, it is food is medicine and we should definitely, you know, it's funny. When you look at modern hunter-gatherers, so, you know, what percentage of Americans would you say eat organ meats? Oh my God. I would say less than 1%. Nobody eats organ meats, right? Nobody eats liver. Back in the day, they used to, moms were encouraged. That was the first thing you ate. Unless you count. Hot dogs. Wasn't that like the most prized stuff? Isn't that what you would go after first? Well, 60, 70 years ago, moms were encouraged by their doctor, hey, make liver for your kid. Or here, give them cod liver oil. You ever watched the cartoons where the mom is feeding the kids something in a spoon, the kids are gagging or whatever? That's cod liver oil. And they knew that because back then, kids had vitamin D deficiency. It showed up as certain diseases like rickets. And they didn't have synthesized vitamin D. They would give them cod liver oil as a way to solve it. Now, as far as hunter-gatherers are concerned, when they make a hunt, if you are visiting with the tribe and they kill an animal, they offer the heart or the liver or the kidneys to you first. Because it's the prized- Yeah, liver is most mineral dense. It's super, super nutrient dense. But we're just, we just have so much of it that we just, like that driver said, we just throw it away. Yeah.