 And welcome back to for the minions the weekly show we talk about third-person MOBA's especially Paragon like ones which ethereal is kind of Paragon like just not based on a theory Oh, no Paragon like the other ones, but I'm your host the mangoes joining me as always is my friend and co-host jelly knees How you doing jelly? I am fantastic man. You so I love the like like smolder look You gave the camera right as you started this whole thing, right? Like it was Like a hardcore like yeah, hello everyone like oh, okay All right, I didn't realize we were doing that kind of show, but I'm for it You haven't been introduced yet. You can't speak. Yeah with us as always as well is now Viking Jedi now. You're allowed to speak like Thank you. Thank you for having me At this point as always I do want to encourage anyone to take my spot though We're always happy to take on anyone else who wants to come in and talk and join the the threesome I guess yeah, you heard him. We'll take you on right here on this show But yeah, no, I'm excited obviously it's been a pretty Exciting last few weeks especially for fault fans And I'm excited to kind of go into some of the stuff that has been released over the last week or so since we got to To hang out and talk about it. Yeah, so this week. We'll be talking about Predecessor release Deckers kit Fault has a new patch and they're going to be going to gamescom over prime release the a couple of little pictures and tidbits and I Jelly anything for a therial not anything more for a therial this week Nope, okay, and then of course I'll have those time stamped in the video description below So you can just jump around but we are going to start this week with Predecessor because they finally released something I was very very curious about is Deckers entire kit their take on Deckers kit Because we knew that they had rearranged it quite a bit. So Jelly you want to go ahead and explain her kit to the fans. Oh goodness. I guess So Deckers passive is going to be her double jump, which I believe was her right-click before man goose In so that she's going to be able to wall in air press space bar again and jump up basically like Kalari But just a different form of jumping than Kalari's is I think that's probably pretty good It makes sense to move that to her passive like I said with with Kalari very similar in that regard Her Q is the same deck of bomb as always and He's toss it it can bounce off of stuff it can stun it the interesting thing is it stuns Longer the farther it goes the stun is longer for the farther distance it travels So those crazy long Decker bombs can hit I assume there's gonna be a cap to it But some pretty good stuns on there Then you're also going to have her new one of her new abilities, which is ion strike I think is what it's called and It's a laser that goes out in front of her and slows enemies and deals damage to anyone that's hit by it pretty cool her New e is that her cage? It's been shrunk down a little bit and but it's effectively her old ultimate It's a cage around an area people can't get in or out and then her new ultimate is a kind of two circle Beam that comes down from the sky You're in the outer circle you get slowed and take damage if you're in the inner circle you get stunned and take damage and that's Decker Yeah, well, I think her I think the the straight line skill shot Like the slow in a line I think that's owner E. I think because that replaced her slow bubble because they didn't want to take the bubble and then I'm oh Yeah, maybe another cage will be on the right click because that used to be a rocket boots, which is now Passive so I think the most interesting thing was taking her cage ultimate away and get making it a basic ability I like The size of the cage It still gives you a little bit of wiggle room to to be able to get out of like a a giddy and meteor or something like that or Step away from a gadget mine So you can't just automatically get multiple people with a gadget mine You can still get away from each other inside that little cage But it's not so big that it's ultimate level big where you're trapping the entire team and something like a a gadget ultimate So I like the size I like the height of it and it does look like it has some activation time So it will be it will take a little more skill to use than her old cage And I think that's pretty good stuff Viking. Would you think of her kid? I mean so I actually kind of have a and I'm not sure Obviously, I think once we start playing it'll be easier But the cage going from an ultimate to just a regular ability like that that's gonna be crazy in lane Right like just that's so much lockdown potential and I think in a team fight It definitely frees up a lot more in that regard like cuz it's smaller And so you're probably gonna get maybe one two if they're really grouped up You might get like three or maybe the whole team But it's gonna be a lot harder to accomplish that versus the previous alt version of it, right? But in lane Dude, that's like pure so I am curious how it's going to get balanced once they play tested a lot more and once players get their hands on it like if it's going to be You know shorter duration, you know, so that way that they can't just get full wombo comboed in a basic ability But outside of that outside of that into itself just for balancing I think her kit looks way more engaging I think that that laser coming across looks super cool Like it's it's a very very neat ability obviously it's a skill shot So it's going to have you know still some you know expression and it's playability And her new ultimate I think is is really cool to I think the idea that you know You have like the center part can do a full stun if so if you're really good at aiming that Otherwise it just does decent damage and gives a slow. I think so she's just going to be a very very CC disruptor style support maybe mid lane mage and I think that's fine. And I really really like the idea of the longer the orb the more of a stun you create I think that gives her the ability to Stay back a little bit not be at the forefront of the fights where you have to like try and land almost like the point and click Easy CC you might be able to you know really lob those things in there Also, and I don't know if you guys felt the same way, but since playing a lot more fault It looks like it interacts with the environment a lot better than in fault Like it seems like it bounces a little bit I don't want to say cleanly, but it does kind of feel clean like I don't know just from the video that they showed I obviously didn't get a chance to play in in predecessor So you guys can maybe add some clarity to that, but it did look like it was a little bit more I don't know smoother or predictable in a way of how it was bouncing around It seemed more like a bouncy orb then sometimes in fault it feels like it's very In consistent as to how you expect it to bounce, but I'm also by no means a Good a good thrower of the orb, but you know, but uh, yeah I think one of the things you hit on though is her ability to stay back Because now with all of her abilities even that video. I think the shortest ranged one looked like it was her cage was the shortest range Everything else was pretty huge distance away that she can cast it and still get an effect of it out there And so yeah, you're going to see deckers Effectively be able to like sit back under their tower and just kind of throw stuff out and poke people with very minimal Issues with that. I think that's good and bad depending on the balance of it all But and what we've seen with predecessor is for instance meryl and nabash in predecessor do insane amounts of damage Insane amounts of damage due to their itemization And scaling and all those kind of things Sure, so I would be surprised if we don't see a decker mid lane come out of this or a decker off lane Purely off of that because I mean one one item in particular combustion if it still exists If she has full stacks on combustion laying something on somebody I'm out. Thanks though. I'm good Like I don't want anything to do with it. I mean to me the just again having the cage on a basic ability I don't know what the cooldown is obviously going to be or anything like that But I just it gives so much like a solo lockdown and it's big enough that you can still trap an individual fairly easily At least from what I could look at So if you're playing her mid lane, you can lock down whoever that mid laner is I think fairly easy you land cage first hit them with a q and then you hit You know what I mean then you put your laser across them if you have alt I mean you can just layer all of that even if you don't Like kill them as we all know in mid lane is sometimes just about Getting them out of lane in the first place and so if you can just push them out of lane and gain lane advantage They're pushing minions and all that. Uh, I think that's but even again support Just having all of that available ability to layer cc or be a disrupter again to disengage I think it's really exciting to see but um layer I think with another support like that. I'm again feeling like you might be Pushed mid lane a bit more because if you can create that much cc And then you add in a nar bash or and other you know murials or any of these other like other cc Heavy champions bro. You could really create some crazy crazy Team fights I think and individual outplay. Yeah, I have two semi concerns with it The first thing you guys have already addressed that is that people are just going to build a straight mage And play her as a mage That's kind of not really that much of a concern. I'm all for being able to Take people in different roles and and off roles and everything like that. Um So that will kind of depend on how she scales. So we'll have to see about that I would hate to see another uh another support get taken out of the pool, but Um, I think she's going to make one hell of a support and people can probably play one hell of a mid lane with her My other concern though is and this and I think might be pretty valid We have we're going to have to play of course with and against her to figure this one out But the level of frustration of player frustration that she'll be able to generate is going to be off the fucking chain like It's already frustrating enough when you get hit with a stun and you're like fuck fuck fuck Now you get hit with a stun You're like fuck fuck fuck and then you're in a cage and you can't go anywhere And then the cage goes down and you slow And then you finally get away from that and you get a hit with another stun you're just gonna be like The whole chain cc that you would get from like a decker rampage or something like that was always very frustrating the paragon She's just going to be able to do that on her own And there there's and they have rampage and they have nabash and like yeah, it's going to be the they're really going to have to uh play play around that quite a bit because You you the people are going to flip the fuck out. Oh, yeah I mean if you take steel off lane rampage jungle because rampage is in the game now Rampage jungle decker mid nabash support and then any carry you want You great you one person just doesn't get to play the game like Like it's just one of those things even with their decision returns. They're just Yeah Yeah, no, I think that's I think especially with with the uh, if they don't have any items that are going to allow for Like a cleanse like they have in league of legends, right? Like a like a get out of cc for free Um, I but that again to me and we talked about this before I think it's cool when when a champion can force You know Players have to adapt their builds and and all that stuff But this one feels like it's going to be a lot more of like How does the team play around her? Because again, I don't think that based off the least what we can see here And we we don't know like damage numbers and all that stuff once it's fully released But just what we're seeing here. I don't think she's going to solo kill somebody like maybe You know a giddy in well, right? Like I don't think she's going to have that kind of damage But she can definitely lock somebody down. So her, you know gank assist is going to be super high Again in in a solo lane that's always valuable if you can basically just give your jungler free kills in mid lane and Then get the mid lane pressure. That's huge gives you all, you know access to both sides of the jungle I think it's is super valuable also makes her be able to Disengage from you know ganks and I don't know it's very very interesting So that to me is the other thing and man goose. I mean, we literally had an example of this yesterday Playing faults grants a different games, but the concept is still relatively the same there You on decker were so slippery under tower that three people were diving you and managed you managed to get one of them Under the tower killed I killed the second one and then you got the third one died like very shortly thereafter Because you were just really slippery at next to no health Now add it in top of that slippery factor that decker is going to have because she has her double jump and she has this other stuff Now add in another stun and two extra slows. Yeah, and that's insane like the and it's Frustration of playing against decker from when she hits your abilities on you But it's also frustration of playing against decker when you're trying to fight her Like no matter what it feels like you're in a losing scenario against her. Yeah So Oh, just real quick I want to throw this question at both of you guys because you're way more experienced with her and her kit and all that stuff So like if we're looking at it just from uh purely the the Style of their the abilities. What do you want to see from them that will make her feel Balanced despite all of that ability of of disruption in cc Like do you need to see like high mana cost you need long cooldowns? Like what is it that you would want to see to to make her feel Okay in in a game like this. Yeah, she's going to need long cooldowns on that cage and that cage is going to have to not last very long at all for her to feel decently balanced I think but I think there's they couple things they're pretty good though. I think they'll figure it out I think there's a couple things with her it I worry A lot about her going into another lane other than support Because of how much she can provide usually if you have a character that can provide those things It either takes some kind of setup, right? You have to do something before you can get the stun off Or they have a single thing And then it's all damage or all utility outside of that Right and she if she's able to go into one of these other lanes being able to provide Two slows and two stuns and a cage Is a lot to give a mid laner or an off lane like it just fundamentally. Yeah, and I I as much as I love seeing People take characters from one lane and putting them into another I think she's one of the ones that they have to be very careful about Yeah, because we could easily end up with a muriel situation like we did in fault Sure, a muriel off lane was better than muriel support 10 times out of 10 And it hurt the game a lot because it was just unfun to play against a muriel as an off laner I mean, I hear good things about a morguech support, you know It worked one time No, I think a fun combo though is going to be caging people when you have drongo as your carry Because then he can silence them inside the cage Right like there's so many combos to go into that it's going to be ridiculous Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking even just like poke cc like when you think of like um league of legends, right? If you think like bygaard jelly like bygaard support like dude when you would cage somebody and you just get Free damage across everybody. It was just it was so oppressive This is like on a whole another level to me because she has Like bygaard doesn't have any other cc other than his cage She has all of her other abilities apply either hard cc or soft cc and it's like Yeah, so I agree with mangoose and I think it's going to need to be you know Very high cooldowns or very high mana cost where like if if to punish Overuse of those things right it's like whether support or even mid lane like if you go if you're going to take your mid lane Like that would be that to me the ideal if you're going to pull her away from support You need to punish the the cost of using all those abilities When they don't work right like I'm all for like a really skilled player Taking somebody who has all of these things and being able to dominate with it. That's that's a fair thing to do But what I would love to do is then punish people who try to Emulate that success, but they are not as good and therefore they're burning through their whole mana pool They can't stay in lane and all that stuff whereas with support maybe With itemization and stuff like that. They are able to still do the same things that And I think that's the big thing that I want to see so I think of leona in league of legends Oh, okay Leona Other she's melee instead of ranged which is a fundamental difference But a lot of the abilities are very similar specifically the ultimate as well Basically identical to leona's in league of legends. Sure. Um leona can do damage She there's no way that she's building support effectively and doing damage She has to pick one of the other right and I'd be more okay if we saw that come out of decker If it was a you either need to play support or you need to play a mid lane damage Kind of thing And you need to fully commit to one of those ideas because if we can if we even a little bit get that 50 50 And it works on decker She's going to be the best support in the game and she's going to be played every single game Yeah ends down So I mean her scaling has to be perfect Her cooldowns need to be perfect and those mana costs I would rather see way high mana costs and have them bring them down Then have it be low because if I see a decker bomb me five times and still above half mana, I'll lose it So I have another question. It's you guys are the old paragon heads, right? And I'm a I'm a relatively casual player for for paragon days. How excited are you to see predecessors like revamp of a champion that's been around since basically the beginning and you know and whose kit is everybody's fairly familiar with Are you excited to see this new version? I apprehensive do you hate it? Like what what are your initial takes on this whole approach? I don't think anything that sets them apart from paragon is a good thing Can't have people thinking that this is paragon because it's not Mm-hmm And so anything you do to change that that's one of the reasons I like overprime so much as they've done So much to to separate themselves from paragon so that it feels like a completely new fresh game So people will go in there with the mindset that I played paragon. Therefore. I will be good at this game No, it's it's a different game with different kits. So you need to need to learn this one Does it make you excited to play here though when when when we get a chance to get back into it? Yeah I love that. Okay. What about you jilly? I I agree with mangers. I think any kind of differentiation is a good thing in this case For decker I'm a little more mixed on it, but I think that's that's going to come down to balance Right, and I think that's for me a bigger thing with predecessor. Is there changes? I don't think are bad From just a concept level Right like for kalari they made her right click her dagger has two charges Right, like that's a really cool change like they're they're they're making these changes that I think are really cool ideas And then when it gets to the balance part, that's where I get really nervous where I'm like, okay We don't have the best history with balance like let's figure this out. Sure. Um, and so Like I said conceptually I think it's fantastic and anything that sets them apart But then the just in the game itself the balance is the thing that makes me more nervous Right. All right. We spent way too much time talking about decker's kit. Let's move on Uh, let's palette cleanse with over prime not a lot coming out of over prime, but some sort of interesting things They released this um a short on youtube of scud aka murdoch It was just a quick like intro of him like a Really good nice close look of his character model and some of the changes that they've made to him And then some other stuff they put in was a picture of agolith As they're they're combining agora and monolith. It's going to be the agora map with the the or agora legacy map with monolith aesthetics and then um They're like a picture of an item It was like just a fish that was like cut up or something and it was like, can you guess what this item is? I have no idea what that Was all about, but I don't know either. It is a fast item It really seemed like an inside joke. So I was thinking the same thing. It has to be an inside joke I was excited to see again just anything. Um, and this is actually for predecessor and over prime I was just excited to see like them releasing more information like again Kind of we talk about this a lot with with these guys is that you know We want to hear and see what you're working on leading up to release of early access or whatever they're going to go to Um, so seeing, um, you know predecessor relief released decker's new kit was super exciting Same thing with over prime. It's cool to see like, you know, this I don't know what to call this thing of scud like they did this weird like Cool 360 view of him, but he looked badass and it's like it's hard not to get excited and immediately I was like, god, I just want to play this game. Why won't they let me in? Um, but I felt the same thing about watching predecessor and seeing the decker's kit I was like, god, I really want to see what that looks like in action when one of us are playing it and um Yeah, and the whole Picture of an item thing that it's like a look like a cooked fish or something like a grilled. I don't know Very weird. I hope it's I hope it's an inside joke, but I don't know What are you jelly? I mean, so I think to me the scud thing feels like they're leading up to something um That it's they've posted scud gameplay in the past right that that was different So to me scud is like their poster boy for lack of a better way to put it. Oh interesting And this kind of like and one I think it's a new skin as well. It was like that gold. It wasn't his traditional blue But it's the way they're like going up around him It feels like they're building up towards something and it being a short They can turn these out fairly quickly. I'm thinking we may see one for each of the characters That would be cool going forward. Maybe an increasing frequency Up to a here's a release date kind of thing that's because that's the vibe that I was getting granted That's maybe just my marketing brain being like this is what I would do if I was doing this, right? So um But that's that's to me that that what I the feeling I got from it The impression that I got from it was that they're like, okay We're not paragon Ours looks different like this I felt that they were showing off what his base skin is going to look like interval prime as opposed to I didn't think that was like just another skin. I thought that I think that's because they've said Several times that they're going to be reworking a lot of the characters We've already seen that in action quite a bit. I think this was them showing off what their murdoch aka scud is going to be looking like And I mean a gore lift picture was really nice Oh, it was just just it just looked pretty I I really like this idea because the the model with assets were better looking I think than the legacy assets They looked a little cleaner. I mean, that's of course subjective But I'm always like the design of the legacy map a little more. I don't really like the legacy appearance too I So I'm hoping I'm hoping that they when they say that they're taking both and kind of merging Oh, well, at least that's what I'm guessing is that it's going to be a little bit more of a merge I think if it's just like literally a one-for-one putting, you know asset on top of another asset I think that'll be a little bit boring and I don't I'm hoping that that's not the overprime take and Based off of how they kind of approached everything I'm hoping that that that I'm right and that it's going to have Maybe a combination feel I don't know how they're going to do that but they could maybe I don't know make it kind of a little bit their own unique take on the merging of the two Maps because I think the player base has a love and or hate for both maps like you could talk to You know 100 old school paragon players and you might get literally 50 to be 50 different versions of of which one they Preferred in the overall look of which one they preferred and So I think that that's a cool homage in general to Paragon and if they find a way to do their overprime mix On the map and kind of make it still feel maybe a little bit like both I think that'd be super exciting But going to scud too scud was my favorite to play when we got a chance to play overprime I loved like some of the changes they did his e the grenade thing I got really really good by the end of it of being able to land those grenades Even even if it wasn't getting kills Stopping backs with it or you know just harassing to be a dick to somebody You know what I mean or being able to farm safely in a lane that I was losing It was so cool to exchange my mana pool for that So I'm excited to see whatever they decide to do is good because he was so fun to play All right, well, let's go ahead move on to fault now fault released a patch. It was a 17.2 I think it was Not a whole lot in the patch But what they did release was a major nerfs to phase which That kind of ties into what we were talking about with decker You know strange matter took phase a traditional Pure support and tried to make her kit a little more engaging And you ended up with people building full damage phase is still being able to support Really well I personally never had a problem fighting against the phase and fault like always the I've always felt She was the absolute worst support and fault, but that's just That's just me I think more importantly though with this patch came They added matter to the loot boxes orbs, whatever the fuck you get so now instead of Having to be completely reliant on getting these shards and piecing them together to get a hero You can just get enough matter to unlock whatever fucking hero you want to so I think that's uh I think that's a good change. There's been people complaining about it But I think the people that are complaining about it are people that already have everything anyway sort of so Yeah, I mean I know for me I I lean on the the few new players that we've gotten a chance to interact with and They've said that that's been a welcome change because for exactly that reason being able to Purchase the skin or and I'm sorry not skin the the champion that they feel They want next versus just having to get lucky with the shards and all that stuff So, um, I I think it's fine as long as matter Again, they're gonna adjust a lot of this. We've been hearing back and forth feedback about they're going to make adjustments So we'll see what matter ends up Mattering towards other than just buying at this point champions Um, but I think it's fine. I I think again the same thing what bingo said if anyone is complaining about Matter being added in probably already has everything and they don't matter anyway Ah, okay another another fault name thing that I had to do it. I'm sorry. What about you jelly? What do you mean? Yeah, I think it's a welcome change. I guess it's the loot box thing right like it's And without anything to use matter on After new heroes come out or when once you have all the heroes rather Other than the occasional hero release, which I'll talk about in a second. I'm sure um It feels a little odd, but I I think for new players. It makes sense right that that's the big elephant the room here that We're not looking at is this is the second patch after They're free to play and still no eggy and scorch. Yep You think that they're like punishing us because they accidentally said that eggy and scorch will be the next one And then so now they're like they're just like we're not gonna release him What you're saying is they're going full chicken. I don't Um, I so I think the big thing that's weird for me is With all this like hubbub about loot boxes in both directions Mm-hmm You'd think they'd try to get something out there to get people to like move on to something else Right like it's I spent I thought for sure week one. We were gonna see eggy and scorch Didn't happen. I was like, okay. Certainly. They don't go two weeks without releasing eggy and scorch Here we are. Um, like it's I'm surprised. I'm really really surprised. We haven't seen eggy and scorch yet I think they should keep that hype train rolling Yep, I agree. They're ahead right now Like you can you can get in fault at any time of day right now and have like two minute cues like it's Like the game is more alive now than it's ever been But it is, you know, it's of course going to slowly lose and it's going to gain a few people lose a few people Something like adding eggy and scorch is going to bring a lot more people into the game Yep, absolutely Um And I don't want to dive too deep into it But do you guys want to talk about current game state for for fault? Since it's the only one really released because I kind of have a few opinions on it But I'm curious if you guys have anything to Talk about as far as current game state with fault Yeah, just I really think that account level should be taken into consideration for mmR Whenever they're they're matching you up with people That's what you mean I mean It is there are a lot of things. I think That's a old thing I could get into Um Overall, I think it's in a okay state. I don't think it's overly bad one way or the other I think As always they have some characters that have fundamental flaws in their design um That's Are proving difficult for people and I think that's where phase is a lot of the time is that her new kit and new design Phase is unfun to play against when there's a good when they're playing a good phase And it's not the typical like unfun of like she's just better than me It's unfun is like great. I'm blind great. I'm stunned great. They pulled them great Like it's just every every time you get up there. It just is unfun to play against And I think there are a couple characters that have that same problem And It's it's one of those things like hopefully they'll fix that but we'll have to wait and see I think um because I I know we've all been talking about a fault about fault a lot recently One thing I and I talked to both of you guys about I've talked to bearded about it is that The game into itself just the game as a game regardless of all the other stuff Is actually decent like it's a it's a good Game like it feels pretty good. It looks decent. It looks, you know, the itemization is fine like it's I guess for me it comes down to the frustration of just like how slow sms is to Grab on to this opportunity. They really have like it feels like they just don't have the same like Urgency that we do as people who are looking from the outside in and um, I would be excited to see that But like one thing I saw today When me and um mangoes were playing was there was one guy wanting to flame me For playing off lane and I was having a I had a bad match up And I wasn't exactly playing super well and another person came in to defend me and said, oh, I think he's relatively new Like and after that for the most part I didn't really get a whole lot more flame that the That the the the conversation changed to a little bit more constructive like hey We need you to group with us or whatever and um and I and I was excited to see that because it's something That we've talked about a lot that if you are a new player If this was a solo queue a situation and I was getting Flamed for me trying to do my best and then someone kind of came to the defense against somebody who was maybe flaming me I would about I would have felt a little at least not disengaged and just I'm gonna solo push my own lane And you guys can go fuck yourselves and it came like okay. Well, let me try to you know Make that guy who stuck up for me feel like he's validated in that you know and um And I was excited to see that I thought I thought that was like a cool moment because we talk a lot about the toxicity sometimes of the community and um, I do think that there are positive Actors out there like we tried to be I think when we're playing in games to Understand and realize like we had a game today Mingus where we were playing against obviously brand new players And we were like let's not just over the top poop on Yeah, I specifically asked you not to attack the qualms. Yeah, you did and and so it's like, you know Let's let's let's actually and they ended up f1ing which is fine But like, you know, there was like an actual discussion between us at least that were these guys are Brand new they were all like under level 10 for sure And like we don't want to just and all of our team which again goes back to the matchmaking Which they definitely need to fix Our whole team was stacked. I was the lowest level and like the rest of everybody else was obviously people who've been playing for a while Um, so it was uh probably rough for those guys who were new and that's probably why they f1ed but um Yeah, so as far as current game state, I'm excited Nervous, but you know, I'm hopeful as well. So we'll see what they end up doing They really just need to keep the momentum like it's they cannot let the momentum die We've seen time and time again They build momentum and let it die they build momentum and let it die they build momentum and let it die They need to keep it going even if there's something going wrong, right? They need to still keep pressing forward and keep pushing that momentum forward Because if they lose it they always they have to restart at square one every single time and it just Hurts every single time Final thoughts on fault before we No, just just like we said with the matchmaking you got you got matched up against a mastery level 10 chimera in the off lane chimeras Can be very if you're not experienced in the fault. It's very rough to handle in the off lane And uh, yeah, just not not much you could have done about that and it's That sucks. Yeah, of course on the flip side of that like I've been up against like account level 10 countess's mid lane and just pooped on her um The last game we played last night that was a level 10 master steal that I was up against in off lane and I Fucking ran rampant during that game You never know about skill levels, but still like man account level really does play a big part in game knowledge and You really need that game knowledge to succeed I do think there's also some champions that are currently in fault that will benefit a little bit more By understanding the full knowledge of their kit, right? Like, um, they just have any current like builds that will just allow them to Not lose, right? They just if you don't understand and you know the fights You're just not going to lose the fight, right? Like and um, I mean even with your coaching like you For those of you who were obviously not there Megus was trying so hard while doing his own lane telling me what to do in my own lane and giving me all the tips and tricks that I can have to Succeed against this chimer and it didn't work. It just wasn't yeah, it wasn't enough and Not that I was also probably piloting the champion in the most ideal way But I wasn't giving him free, you know lane I was trying really hard to defend where I could but there was just His level of understanding and like, you know the sustain that he had in his lane and like, you know the Lack of gank support from our jungler and all that just would he basically took over now We still gave him a good fight towards the end of the game. I think we were able to you know, um Yeah, but the enemy team didn't win that game. We lost that game. That was right. That's all that's a story for another day About that all day, but Yeah, our team our teams engages were a little wonky especially with me playing gadget needs A team fight a structured team fight in order for her to thrive and when we had a structured team fight I got a quadra kill But it was fucking trickle dick and into their enemy jungler jungle for no goddamn reason. I don't Anyway, let's okay. Let's move on to the next. Okay, and uh, Thank you viking jedi for pointing this out because I didn't see this today. Uh, false going to gamescom in Yay, no, uh, so I threw this up onto onto twitter. If you're not following me feel free to viking the viking jedi on twitter But um, I was I thought it was cool. It's good to see them You know again trying to do something to branch out We've talked a lot about they need to Really like put the the pedal to the metal at this point and really get themselves seen and heard and You know the fact that it's in germany probably for us na fans It means that we won't get a chance to attend and maybe there are some people are going to go there But um, I think it'll be neat. Uh, it'll at least bring some new eyeballs That'll probably at least walk by the stand. Maybe they'll stop Um, you know, I think that the team that's going to be there, uh, is is ryan and one of the Balix is going to be there. So, um, we know we know balix is always full of jokes and uh, he's pretty charismatic and um, So I think you'll at least be cool to me if you're managing to get to go there. Um, and again, it'll at least People will see fault the elder orb and maybe It'll drive some more people that aren't already aware of the game to the game And I think that'll be fun I was I saw the tweet come through and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool Like where is gamescom? Maybe like I'll go out drive there or whatever it is, right? Looked it up. Germany. Nope. Not gonna make it to this one. Uh As long as there's somehow featured in the online presentation of gamescom That'll be that'll be huge for them. That'll be a big win for a strange matter Sure Now fault if you guys uh, want to send us ftm crew to uh gamescom. I will livecast gamescom. I'll be there Just let us know No, I think it's cool though Again, anything to uh to bring light and if there's some fans who are in the eu And get a chance to go to Germany and meet the guys, I think that'll be really cool If you do have the opportunity, please go see the guys Despite a lot of times we do give them a lot of flak here on ftm And and it's most of the time and mangas is probably the person who talks about this the most It's because we care and we want to see this games succeed And we want these guys who have been putting in a lot of time and a lot of effort Get rewarded for that and so getting a chance to be in a live situation, especially with covid and everything that was going on Getting a chance to maybe meet a few fans of the game And getting to talk about it. I think would be really really neat. So if you have an opportunity, please go and see the guys Say hi You know, give them a high five think thank them for what they've been putting in because it's it's it's been an uphill battle I think for them with everything that's been going on. So I think it's cool. Yeah I think that's going to close it out for fault and um, we got nothing for ethereal this week But we'll say that jelly did answer the uh the call in in the mo cap suit. So he's obviously been mo cappin I have I have obviously been mo cappin It's a dude put on the suit for the first time and like got it when I got it all working It was like this magical like we live in the future kind of feeling of like look at me dancing on screen Like doing stuff. Yeah, dude. It was cool. I was a little disappointed that we didn't see your balls, but Whatever man goose I guess it's a different kind of suit Oh boy Okay, and that is uh about wrapping up um if you want to check out uh The viking jet on his twitter, he obviously tweets about this stuff a lot You can check i'll have that link down in the uh video description below and then uh jelly needs twitch and youtube He has been streaming a bit more than he used to so uh, you can check out uh More than he well not more than he used to more than he has been lately So you can check that out if you if you want to as well, but um, let's go to close it out for this week Thanks for coming out if you're watching the premiere. Thanks for watching the video if you're watching that But for now, this is the for the minions crew signing off you guys. Have a good one man goose Special shout out to channel members. I blood hunter jelly knees meow mix for men stunt raven and blastoise king