 Tako, dragi ljudi, je stensno prišli do konca nocojšnji predičvele, posemajte in lahno. Zaj se hitza. No odar bom povabil najprej. Our honored guest today, Goran Vishnič, a phenomenal creation American actor, who has appeared in American in British film. Wait, please. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was telling you that. Let me just finish the announcement. But you're too popular, man. OK. So he's best known in the United States for his role as Dr. Luka Kovac in ER and Garcia Flynn in Timeless, both NBC television series. For ER, he and the cast were nominated for two Screen Actors Guild Awards. Ne vem, če veste dragi ljudi. Goran je prevo v interviu za pop-in, povedal, da je tudi sam zelo veliko delal zemljo, pomago svoj močet, tudi pri Kidanju Gnoja. Če se namotav, sem to prosvišal. Ček do je zagotovo jedan od boljših, vzrma bolj primjernih celebritijov, ki je prišel sam, da nam predato sporočilo. Gospeljenj gospodje, enlipa plavst za gospoda Gorana Vishniča. Rano plavst. Let me welcome you to the stage. Yes. And of course, the one and only, Eden in Edini, gospeljenj gospodje, en ogromna plavst za Sad Goruja. Let me welcome to the stage, also Sad Goru. Thank you. Best of hands. Go ahead. The floor is yours. That's not me. Hello. Hello. Nice. Thank you. So, Sad Goru, I'm here on a stage with you. And normally... I can see that. Thank you. I'm the one who answers the questions. So it's kind of difficult for me. I'm gonna try to do a good job. Then I'll ask the questions. There you go. No, no, no, please. I'm prepared. Look, I have everything here. So I'm also a motorcycle enthusiast. And I know what does that mean to be sitting on a bike for a long time. So can you please tell me why? Why are you doing this? How did it start? Why are we doing this right now, this right? No, why are you doing the ride? Yeah, why ride from London and spending all this time on a motorcycle and... The age of 65, 100 days on the motorcycle could kill you. Yes, it could. So today is only the ninth day. Today I'm still doing good, huh? So a lot of people are asking me, Sadguru, why should you do this at this stage in your life? Yes, I need not do this for myself because I am who I am in the world. I don't have to prove anything to anybody. Whether I can ride or not, everybody knows I can ride. So why? See, the highest number of suicides in United States, among all the professions or among farmers, whole families shooting themselves because in the last twelve years 50% of the farmers have not seen a dollar of profit. Over 300,000 farmers in India commit suicide in the last twenty years. It is expected by 2032, 1.2 billion people will leave their homelands and move towards urban centers, 1.2 billion people. When people leave their homelands and move towards urban centers in a disorganized way, unplanned ways because there is no food where they live, the suffering that they go through, the humiliations that they go through, particularly what happens to women and children when families migrate like this, is unspeakable. All this is happening. I've been talking about soil for the last thirty years in various ways. But everybody listens and everybody says, oh, this is great Sadhguru, great Sadhguru, you're doing great. It's not about me doing great. It needs to happen. We need to reverse this otherwise we are eating up the soil and the food of the unborn child. In my… in my emotion, eating up the food of the unborn child for me feels like a crime against humanity. I thought before I am too old and no good for anything, I have to stick my life out and tell people this needs to happen. If you don't do it now in the next fifteen, twenty years if you don't turn this around, you will regret this seriously. Every human being on the planet. I've heard you said on one of the events in the past couple of months that this generation on the planet has so much power that we can reach each other almost 90% of people on this planet in like a matter of half an hour through social media, through this, through that. So the power we have to do something about it and also the precipice of what's happening of the planet is the last second to do it. So we do have a power and we know that we have to do it. So how can we, you know, can you enlighten us how to proceed? What else is there to be done? What can we do? Just now from my office they sent me news that the last one week or so 154 nations have been meeting in Switzerland to arrive at some kind of an agreement for preserving the biodiversity of the planet. And after one week of meeting they disband without any agreement or without any progress. So it looks like we think there is endless amount of time. There is no endless amount of time because the loss of biodiversity every year is approximately to the tune of 27,000 species per year are becoming extinct. At this level, in another 30 to 40 years time it will become very hard to turn it around. As a generation we have a challenge and a privilege that we could be that generation which turned back from the brink of a disaster or we could be that generation which slept through and fell over and then grieve about it later whoever is left. So, this needs to happen now just to create that urgency is why I did this. People are asking me, Satguru, you could drive a car. Why are you riding? Oh, even if you drive a... You know, somebody yesterday came and one journalist came, why are you not riding a bicycle? I said, you have a plan to kill me. They are asking, why are you not riding a bicycle? 30,000 km. Well, there are some very perfect human beings in this world. They never make any mistakes because they never do anything in their lives. So, may I ask you, Vid said something about my upbringing every weekend we would go to my grandpa's farm and we actually worked on it. It was a proper farm and we spent a lot of time working, having fun also, driving tractors and all of that stuff. But I'm kind of a little bit into farming from that perspective. I was kind of there. I don't know how many farmers is in this audience but can you just tell us a little bit about some practicalities of what can be done with the soil to replenish it, to make it as good as it used to be hundreds of years ago, maybe. See, in that sense, Slovenia is well-endowed because one thing is it's just a 3 million population very large parts of the country covered with forests. Today afternoon I was speaking in another group. They said woods. I want to tell you this. This happened about twelve, thirteen years ago. You know, I come from a town called Mysore, most of my childhood I spent there. Anybody familiar with Mysore City? Oh, okay, okay. So, I was teaching all over the country at that time but I avoided doing any events in Mysore so that when I go there, I could just meet my friends and family without being recognized. But that privilege went away after some time. Anyway, it was all over the place. So they demanded I must do a program so I announced a two-day event there. So I went and sat there. I looked around. From my kindergarten school, from that time some of my friends, teachers from my school, from my high school, from my college, teachers, friends, all kinds of people that I knew, they all came to see what the hell has happened to him. Twenty-seven years I had not thought in Mysore. Then I decided to teach in Mysore. So as the event got over, my English teacher, who by then was in her seventies, she came and hugged me and she said, Now I know why you wouldn't let me teach Robert Frost. I said, Ma'am, why would I not let you teach Frost? I like Frost. She said, do you remember? Then she reminded me, what happened was, till then we were reading English poetry and she introduced American poetry and she spoke about Robert Frost, how great a poet he is. Then she opened the book and said, woods are lovely, dark and deep. I said, stop. She said, why? I said, a man who calls a tree a wood, I'm not going to listen to that guy. She said, no, no, Frost is a great poet. I don't care who he is. A man who calls tree a wood, I'm not going to listen to that guy. This is like, if I'm a tiger, I look at you and think, oh, here is dinner. All right? This is just crazy, because we are calling tree a wood. For us it's just a product. It's not a living thing. This is our problem. This is the problem, why we have landed up where we are. We have forgotten that soil is the greatest and the most complex and sophisticated living system, not on just the planet in the universe. It is not just on this planet. In this universe, in the known universe, we do not know anything like the topsoil of this planet. That's how complex and sophisticated it is. And it is fantastic partnerships between various species and how they function and the whole chemistry of the planet is managed by them. But in many, many people call this as dirt. If that is dirt, you and me are dirtbags. Hello? So unfortunately, we are treating living things as inanimate things. Even inanimate things need to be treated with respect. Unfortunately, living entities we are treating like this because somebody has put this idea in our head that every other creature is here only to serve the human beings. I have spent lots of time in the jungles of India. I have spent so much time observing all the different creatures, not just the big ones, the small ones, because the crickets, the grasshoppers, the ants, termite, you better know who they are, because, you know, I have been in the jungles, I have had close encounters with tigers, I have very close encounters with elephants and the Indian wild buffalo is teda, but I have been very close around them. After all that, when you come out of the jungle after two, three weeks, the only thing you really remember is the insects. Really. You don't know the impact of these things and what they know, I still not figured this out. They'll be going bam, bam, bam, bam. They'll be going exactly, you know, especially in the rainforest in the south, exactly at 2.30 in the morning, they'll stop. Within thirty seconds, another group starts off. They'll go on for hours. Every day, I'm just looking at the watch, exactly at 2.30 in the morning. What are they doing? They know something that you and me have not figured out, all right? I'm saying, without a clock, without anything, they know time to the second. How? But they know. As the birds know how to, you know, they got their own GPS, insects got their own time clock. And exactly they know, and if you just observe them, you know today is going to rain. I am there in the jungle without any equipment, all I am except what I am wearing. There is nothing else. So rain is an important part, because if it starts raining in these southern Indian jungles, it can rain for three days non-stop, okay? So you better find a place where your bones will get wet. It's like that. So if you just observe the insects, they are all preparing for the rain. Nothing, no cloud in the sky, but I learn to trust them. I know it's going to rain means it's going to rain. When they say it, it's true. Meteorologist, you know, the only two professions in the world where you can be wrong 50% of the time is either you're a weatherman or you're an astrologer. I wanted to ask you, in 1990s, I believe, there was the project Green Hands in India. And I've read a lot about it, and I've heard you talk about it, and I think the audience would really appreciate that story, because I love that story, how everything started and how much you guys accomplished and what was the beginning of the situation, how everything came to be. You know? If you would tell that story, that would be great. See, in 1997 or eight, I'm not very sure about the date, seven or eight, one of those years. A certain UN agency came to southern India and they said 60% of south India will be desertified. Desertification will happen within by 2025. I don't like predictions, because predictions means you're only going by the cold facts. You're not taking into account what's beating in the human heart, what plans we got in our head. All this not considered. So I wanted to see it for myself, so I drove around that state. Then I realized that they were wrong. It is not going to be 2025. It could be much sooner, because three perennial rivers had gone completely dry. Many small revelations streams had gone dry. And people were... When I first entered that state, they were striking water in the tube wells at 150 to 200 feet. Now they were going 1100 to 1200 feet. And in southern India there is a certain kind of palm tree. You must eat this, otherwise life hasn't started yet, you know? It is like an ice cube. If you open the palm fruit, it's like an ice cube. It is one of the best things you can eat on a hot summer day. So these palm trees, crowns were falling off. In traditional language, they have spoken in proverbs saying when the palm tree's crown falls off, that means you are heading for a disaster. Because the bore wells are going 1100 feet, they are sucking out all the water, the trees are not able to get that. These are resilient trees, that is they could grow in a desert, you know? They are proper palm trees like date palms. Similar kind of palm. It could easily grow in a desert, but crowns were all falling off. Thousands of palm trees I saw, crowns had fallen off. Then I thought what to do, then I discovered that the green cover in that state was only 16.5%. The national aspiration was 33%. I said the simple thing is, we must make 33% green cover which will change many things because I don't know if all of you are interested in all these technicalities. See, India is a tropical nation. That means the only source of water is monsoon. Monsoons come down for about 70 to 90 days or 95 days in a year. That water should be held in the soil for 365 days for the rivers to flow. If that has to be held, the soil organic content has to be so rich, there must be vegetation, trees only then it will happen. So this rain that is coming is not percolating because there is no vegetation, everything has become farmlands. It is flowing horizontally instead of sinking in. So every year there are floods and alternating with droughts. Wherever there is a flood, within three months there will be a drought. So people were struggling with this. I said it is very natural. Once there is a flood, there is bound to be a drought. That is how it works, the tropical land. So when I saw this, I said we need to increase the vegetation. So I started talking to the farmers that ten percent of your land, if you make it into vegetation, what are the benefits, how your economy will improve. So it was picking up slowly and then I pulled together about four to five thousand volunteers and then I spoke to them. I made them sit in hot sun. Around eleven o'clock in the morning sitting in the sun and they all, you know, in southern India, if they want to come and see somebody like me, all the ladies are showered up and nicely powdered up and ready and nicely jeweled and everything and sitting like this. Hot sun slowly is just sinking and I'm sure wondering what's wrong with Satguru Vaisi burning us up like this. When I saw it had become quite unbearable, then I said come and there were five big rain trees close by covering almost an acre of land. I took them under. I said, ah! I said, this is it. See, this is climate change for you. Then I tried to tell them, see, we need to make this thirty-three percent green cover. I made a barefoot calculation if you want to get it to thirty-three percent, you need to plant one hundred and fourteen million trees. They said, oh, Satguru, do you know what is hundred and fourteen million? How can anybody plant that many trees? I asked them, what's your population? They said, sixty-two million. I said, each one of you, if you plant one tree today, take care of it for two years and plant one more, you got the number. The problem is all of us consume but when it comes to compensate reaction, not all of us are participating, this is our problem. All of us are consuming everything, isn't it? One may be more, one may be less, that doesn't matter, but all of us are consuming. So we started this movement, which I made a simple, it is like a spiritual practice where I made them sit there and experience that what you exhale, the trees are inhaling. What the trees exhale, you're inhaling. Once they realized, one-half of their lungs is hanging out there, oh, now you can't stop them from planting trees, you won't believe. The whole culture changed in the weddings. You know, in Southern India, weddings are huge things, like 3,000, 4,000 people are invited for the wedding. Everybody, they will come and eat fully when they are going packets of sweets and this and that, and they will take and go. So we made this culture when people come to weddings, you give them a sapling. Today it's become a prominent culture in the area. When people come to weddings, the guest will give a sapling. Our volunteers will be standing there. Do you have land to plant? No. Then we take it back and say, okay, we will plant it for you. You must come and see, we will tell them where we are planting, you must visit at least once a month and this we created a culture around that. Today millions of trees have been planted. The green cover went up by eleven point two percent. Nice. Then you clap for too long. There is work to do, keep your hands free, I'll give you some work. So then we translated this project, went on and it became a culturally significant process, but I knew that was not enough. We had to make policy changes for the rivers because all rivers across India were depleting seriously. This Kaveri river around which I grew up, I grew up around this river and I saw fifty years ago how this river was. Today only forty percent of the river exists. This is the lifeline for southern India, but only forty percent of the river is flowing today. The reason is we have removed twenty-four percent of the tree cover in the last seventy years. So I said we need to put this back, but the policy change was needed. It took about seven-and-a-half to eight years to make the needed policy changes to make this convenient for farmers to plant their trees. And in the seven-and-a-half years there were three changes of governments. I don't know how governments work here. I have no knowledge about political situation here. But in India the opposition, you know, three governments, three different parties came into power. In India opposition means if you say it's evening, the opposition says, no, it is morning. That is their idea of opposing everything. Okay? So three governments changed. That means everything had to be started fresh and it relentlessly we went at it, got the necessary policy changes done and then we wrote a book at seven-and-a-hundred-and-sixty page, you know, river policy as to how Indian river should be managed. And I drove from southern tip of India to Himalayas in twenty-nine days. In twenty-nine days we gathered the support of one-hundred-and-sixty-two million people. Just to give you an idea of what was done. One-hundred-and-forty-two events I did in twenty-nine days. And one-hundred-and-eighty-two media interviews I did. Over four-thousand-seven-hundred impressions in newspapers and magazines happened. Over eight-thousand or seven-thousand-six-hundred television things happened across the various things. So one-hundred-and-sixty-two million people supported this. Once there was that kind of numbers no government is going to ignore that. So within three-and-a-half months it became the official policy. So this became the recommendation policy for all the twenty-eight states. Six states went proactively implementing it. Other states, you know, normally they wait for a disaster. They act after a disaster happens usually. Because preventing a disaster doesn't get you any medals, do you understand? After a disaster happens if you go and help people, you will get a medal. If you prevent a disaster everybody is happy. So that is happening. So then I decided we must manifest it on the ground. So we started what is called as Kaveri calling. In this one river basin which accounts for eighty-three thousand square kilometers of land five-point-two million farmers live and work there. There we started this movement looking at the success of this farmer's incomes went up, nutritional value went up and organic content went up in the soil. Water tables came up. Looking at this the UN agencies, four agencies here you have them I think, yeah. UN environment world food program UNCCD and IUCN, all of them partnered because they saw this as a model project. Largest model project for the tropical lands in the world. So looking at the success of this the government of India made thirteen detailed project reports for thirteen river basins the exact replicas of Kaveri calling project. So we have been waiting on that just five days ago government of India announced they are allocating 2.5 billion dollars for these thirteen river basins. Yeah, you reminded me now I was thinking about few days ago it was on television in Croatia I think it was happening all around Europe they turned the public lights off for about an hour on the monuments in the big cities and stuff like that and they were asking people what they think and then one girl said well I mean it's one hour I mean why don't we do something more about it I mean it's just what does that mean I know it was supposed to be symbolic gesture to show something but you know lately it's a talk about when you brush your teeth turn off the water that's all great turn off the lights when you're not in a room but don't we need something more than that I mean definitely see unfortunately a whole lot of civic issues are being projected as environmental or ecological issues this needs to change see if plastic bags are floating around in Ljubjana am I correct? ok there's no plastic bags I'm saying if they are floating around this is a civic issue this is not an environmental issue in your town or in your city what do you call this? city? a capital city if I said that I would be in big trouble but you said that it's fine no, I only asked I didn't say anything so in this city if see the various urban issues like air pollution you did not brush your teeth for three days so to save water I meant so maybe it is good for your water supply system the load is less but ecologically means nothing zero, you understand if you turn on the taps and run all the water to the ground ecologically it's good but not good for the city water supply so do not make urban issues into ecological issues it's not true urban issues are different, they are civic issues we need to handle them differently it is very cute of you, you didn't brush it I'm sorry you use less water brushing your teeth very cute of you, very civic awareness, very nice good for your city but not of any significance to ecological issues because ecology is a different aspect so what needs to happen see there are many issues there is carbon in the atmosphere CO2, CO2 everybody is talking but one important thing you understand is you breathe in oxygen or carbon hello oxygen guy, you're you're oxygen guy you look lively you must be oxygen see this whole oxygenation of the atmosphere started nearly a billion years ago when you heard of that cave this gender thing this gender thing is a real problem now is that cave man or cave woman is there such a term cave woman now so that cave person that's better so that cave man or cave woman when they first discovered how to cook their food with fire maybe 10,000, 15,000, 40,000 50,000 years ago when somebody figured it out wow it made a huge difference for us isn't it that we could cook our food nearly a billion years ago one very smart fangai or analogy we don't know there is confusion just like whether it is a man or a woman just like that there is a little confusion on that one they figured out one of them figured out how to cook food using the perpetual energy of the sun that is the phenomena that today we call as photosynthesis so photosynthesis essentially means drawing energy from the sun working up what taking carbon from the atmosphere making carbon sugars out of it passing it on to the earth and using it as an exchange process to build a partnership with all the microbial life there we need this carbon sugar the plant needs these nutrients so with this the whole life process developed because of this photosynthesis today in the atmosphere there is 21% oxygen content approximately before the photosynthesis it was just a shade over 1% definitely you and me could not be there all these complex life forms only happened after photosynthesis in the imagination of the atmosphere happened in the last 1000 years 1000 years ago how much photosynthesis was happening today how much is happening there is a 85% drop 85% so everybody is talking about carbon dioxide why are we not talking about depleting oxygen that's what our focus should be if that has to happen there must be more green on the land right now 71% of the land on the planet is under forming how do we form right now I've been driving riding from London Netherlands, Germany Czech but Austria and here all along I'm seeing farmlands most of the farmlands don't have any crops right now because this is post winter but all lands are plowed and left open this is the worst thing you can do to the land that you plow it and leave it open this life dies microbial life because first 15 to 18 inches has enough life has all the life that manufactures 87% of the life on this planet including you and me but today machines are plowing this is deep and leaving it open like this for months on end is killing it if you just look back on the history of agriculture you said you are still a young man when I was on the farms it was common in India every farmer knew during summer months in India you had to put cover crops of legumes and pulses out of which you got nothing much but the humus went back into the soil that practice was there everywhere in the world but today we become so smart and scientific and senseless that there are no cover crops anywhere everything is plowed and left open this is one serious damage we are causing to the land so the microbial life that is beneath the soil or in the soil is the basis of our life who we are right now of that life even in evolutionary terms we are a consequence of that life that is the most sophisticated and complex life we have manifested out of that today every one of you understand that without the gut microbiome you cannot even digest the food that you eat the same is true the plant cannot get the necessary nutrients from the soil unless the microbes make partnership with each other so this is a very complex partnership thousands of species of microbes are working for all of them the interaction is once food what is food for this one what is somebody's excreta is another species' food and it goes on like this endlessly the dead bodies of one microbe becomes the food for somebody else the whole cycle is happening it is out of that plants have come up, animals have come up we have come up so now that is what is under threat this partnership is being ripped open in the last 40 to 50 years time the damage we have caused is such 52% of the world's topsoil is degenerated and organic content in these parts of the world I do not know exactly what is Slovenian thing but in Germany Czech Republic and Austria it is around 1.48% here also I assume it somewhere around that or maybe a shade more than that because you have little more forest in this country but that is how much it is but in a temperate climate you must have minimum 3% to call soil a soil right now you are adding enormous amount of fertilizers to what extent means 42 billion pounds billion not million billion pounds of fertilizer chemical fertilizer is being used in the world out of which not even 45 to 50% is absorbed by the plant rest of it binds with the minerals and becomes in such a way the phosphorus and the nitrogen it causes enormous damage because of this nitrogenous material and phosphorus in the waters it gets into the groundwater and then get into the rivers for example where Mississippi river joins the Gulf of Mexico there is a 6000 square mile dead zone that means there is water body without any oxygen because of this all the fertilizer used across the Mississippi belt is coming down the river and it is creating a dead zone dead zone means none of the life can exist because all oxygen is out of that water so we are causing we are just sabotaging our own lives like in India there is a fable which talks about a man who is sitting in the wrong end of the branch and hacking it when he succeeds he will fall we are that kind of people what I love about this initiative is what you have been talking right now about the soil is that unifies a lot of problems that ecology has right now I mean the solution is to plant more trees our technology every time I hear that somebody is making a new machine to get carbon dioxide from the atmosphere I am like don't we have those machines I mean they have been around couple of million years we just need to plant more of those so this initiative kind of like unifies a lot of ecological problem can you talk more about that? you live in California generally? I used to live in California so I planted myself in California for about 25 days as a part of this thing to move certain people every other day somebody comes up and says so my friend has come up with a new app it will solve all the problems see these are this is a generation which is technologically juvenile is still new we are just excited about it we think technology will solve everything technology does wonderful things no question about it but we must understand right now I heard that you have food apps right I am seeing the old bags everywhere on the motorcycles it's spelt wrong though it's WOLT they spelt it like that so so the app may get the food to your home but somewhere somebody has to cook it app doesn't cook it all right somewhere somebody has to grow the food app doesn't grow the food app makes the delivery maybe little better it's only an application enhances the application but doesn't produce anything it cannot produce anything so we need to understand this it doesn't matter what technologies you come up with whatever you do there are only two sources of organic material on the planet or let me say in the whole universe that we know of there are only two sources plant material there is simply nothing else hello yes or no? plants and animals beyond that there is no organic content anywhere right now the problem is on your farms there are no animals there are no plants or trees because all monoculture commercial agriculture has come in there are only machines but machines don't shit that's the problem I was always you know I was somebody told me once in India that there is some sage some saint somewhere and is it okay I talk some nonsense to you so I was in a new town and they said there is some saint here you must meet him people say if you go to him you will get you know very fortunate and you will learn people learn lot of money because they went to him things happened many people found lot of success I said I am not looking for anything like that and I don't need to see anybody then somebody said you know this man doesn't shit and I said okay I want to see this guy because if a man doesn't shit it means he is beyond his physical nature or he is full of shit so in the afternoon I drove it was about 70 km away so I just drove there to see this guy then I go and see this man he is like a masherid very small man like he must be in his nineties probably he is like totally just a skeleton with skin and a small beard and he is just sitting like this in one you know in India because from the time of Monarchs there is this fascination for people to have I think even in Europe I have seen in many places we were just in some royal hotel where you know the chairs are all this big no human being can sit on it somebody with some large sense of ego thinks he is big and sits there and you get bloody buried in the chair it is not made for a human being you seen those chairs the back rest is five feet tall probably just to give an image in the next generation our king was you know twelve feet tall man he was something like that anyway he is sitting on one of those that kind of chairs the man is like a sparrow so small shrunk like that so im from a distance and I just walked around there is a door I opened it and there was a toilet and I called one of the ladies who was there and said there is a toilet here they told me the man doesnt shit he said oh no no its not like that only once in the morning what do you think I am doing it through the day what I am sorry I brought all this Indian shit to you I heard that you guys are all soaked in honey let me tell you my honey story can I tell you my honey story I am just like them I am listening I am enjoying myself please so when I was getting lost in the jungles of India hmm the only food that sustained me largely was honey I ate other things that I dont want to talk to you about but largely honey people always wondered how do you survive in any season you manage to stay there for 2-3 weeks and come back how do you do it simple my trick was normally we were riding Czechoslovak Czech republic motorcycle at that time ok everything is sensitive you know you cant say anything as it was you can say thomas here so we were riding a java so it has a petrol tube normally you need 7-8 inches of petrol tube but I always put extra about 15-16 inches of petrol tube because it gets hard you can keep cutting it and putting it on the rubber gets hard and this is also for my honey so when I park the motorcycle in the forest and cover it up with all branches and stuff I pull off the petrol tube and put it in my pocket and go so I climb up the tree and the hill I don't know what kind of honey bees you have here have no experience of this there we have what is called as black bees they are this big about 1.5 inches long and honey is fantastic in the western gods because the variety of vegetation there is probably like no other in the world the number of species of plants there is like nothing else in the world so I go there and these huge hives they built it on that kind of branch where the sloth bears cannot get a sloth bear weighs approximately 72-85 kilograms so the bees are so smart they will build it in a place where the bear cannot get to it just on that kind of branch where the bear will not be able to go because the branch will bend so I am just around little over 70 kilograms so I crawl up that, go close to it stick my pipe into the hive and drink it up I drink up about three-fourths of a liter of honey and for the day I am settled, you know so I just lived on honey for many weeks and there are there are tribes called honey shoppers in India they are called jenukurvas so I went and lived with them and they just live on honey every day from morning to evening just there are bamboo glasses about this tall approximately about three-fourths of a liter it would take you just drink that, that's the food and you are so energized means you don't need anything else for the whole day you are climbing trees you are doing all kinds of crazy things I am just scared of you one liter of honey so I am just telling you because I heard honey beekeeping is a big deal here that's that's probably one of the smartest things that you've done in your country it will pay, it will pay in future not just with honey it will pay in many ways I wanted to ask you so you left London and you've been through all these European countries so what's the experience so far that has been going? Well the people of all these cities and countries we have been to the reception and enthusiasm has been spectacular and there all become thousands of earth bodies we have created I think nearly half a million earth bodies we have now we want to raise this number an earth body means somebody who's committed a minimum of ten to fifteen minutes per day for one hundred days but because you are such fantastic people from this great city of Ljubjana I'm giving you nine percent discount only ninety one days you have to do it do I have earth bodies here because this is our time on the planet this is our time and it's a very brief amount of time unless you're a miserable person yes because have you not noticed on a certain day you are very happy twenty-four hours went away like a moment another day you're miserable twenty-four hours feels like a eon have you experienced both or no so only miserable people will have a long life if you are joyful it just gets over in no time all right I just you know I feel like I was born a day before yesterday but look at me is there anything else I've been forgetting about save soil campaign that what can anybody everybody here in this audience do or what we can try to achieve will be do you have anything to add to all of this yes see right now we must understand you everybody says ok what can I do shall I go and fix my garden see you fixing your garden is very cute of you all right but it is not a solution it's very nice you must do it it's a wonderful thing to do but it is not a solution for the world the percent of the world's land is under till that's what needs to change if a real difference has to happen for that to happen unless it's enshrined in the policy it will not happen and even if it happens next generation can just reverse it as we have done it hello it has to be in the policy how in urban land there are building policies it will be demolished yes or no but if you have ten acres of land you can plow every inch of it and in 10-15 years time you can turn it into your desert nobody will ask you why have you done it because destroying soil is not considered a crime but this is the worst crime you can commit because you are eating up the food of the unborn child already and it's very very important to understand that soil is not our property it's a legacy we have received from previous generations it's our basic responsibility as a generation to pass it on as a living soil for next generation that is something we must do for this to happen minimum 3-6% organic content should be there in the soil that must become the policy in every nation as we do it the nations will have to provide incentives right now we are saying 1.48 is the approximate organic content in these countries if the government offers an incentive if a farmer makes it 3% he will get this much if he can do it in two or three years time if he makes it 6% he will get more like this they can set up incentive apart from that like this that if your farm is 6% organic content instead of saying the product is organic which doesn't mean anything actually it's just a branding if you say my land as a farm has 6% organic content if that is marked on the product you can also price it higher and people will buy it because it's coming from a very rich soil if you if you raise the organic content in a given land to 8% to 10% your irrigation requirement will come down to 30% of what you are using right now if you are using 100 liters of water you can do the same work with 30 liters of water and you can brush your teeth every day hello if you if you raise the organic content to 12% to 15% which will take some time in most lands if you do that your irrigation requirement will come down to 10% to 15% that is 100 liters will become 15 liters of water that is saving water hello that is real change above all if that moisture is there in the soil life will thrive because the microbial life needs organic content and moisture for them to thrive moisture is if organic content is there moisture is held in the soil if you go into a forest because they say you have a lot of forest what kind is it, evergreen is it all kinds then you have not seen all forest lands in the world in this latitude you can't have all kinds of forests let's say you have good forests because the bees are doing well means there must be substantial vegetation so if you go into your forest you don't need any pickaxe just with your fingers if you dig like this three inches if you go it will be damp that means there is enough organic content that is why water is held there even if it doesn't rain for three months still it will be wet that is how agricultural soil should become then you grow food which will nourish you then you grow food which will be immunity for you for many things for example right now the world has been reeling under this pandemic I don't know how bad it's been in Slovenia how bad not very I see only a few of you are wearing masks because yesterday I was in Vienna everybody was wearing masks yesterday the case load was something like 50,000 per day so in the country so they were all wearing, no it's okay he's already got it so what can we do so I'm saying you don't need some expert virologist to tell this to you any simple doctor will tell you if there is not enough vitamin A, vitamin B6 vitamin B12, vitamin C calcium iron, foliate magnesium, zinc in the diet that you're eating you become susceptible to upper respiratory tract infections this is a well known fact whatever you call this a pandemic, coronavirus, number 19, 20, 21, whatever you want to call it you call it what you want essentially it is a respiratory tract infection all right? if your nutrient value was good your ability to resist it would be much better you've lost over 6 million people across the world almost everybody that I know has lost somebody who's dear to them you know this is because the nutritional value is very low I'm not saying there wouldn't be a pandemic if the nutrition was good definitely there wouldn't be such a high toll for sure and today there is substantial studies to show that mental illnesses in the world and nutritional micronutrient quality in the food that you eat are very directly connected if you're feeling little wonky maybe you're not eating the right kind of food you know so today WHO is talking about mental illness pandemic see a pandemic means if one person has it here in this hall all of us become susceptible that's a pandemic when we say mental illness pandemic all of us are susceptible to lose our mind today or tomorrow that's what it means now they're talking about a suicide pandemic in the year 2020 more people committed suicide in Japan than the number of people who died of the pandemic so we don't really need the virus we are pretty good you know I think we should open some questions to come from the audience I think it's that time if I'm right how are we gonna do that you ask me what they can do no, no, no, I'm asking technically is Vid gonna facilitate that or no, no, you can do it there he is there basically it's time for questions and hopefully answers we're gonna pass the microphone around somebody that wants to make a question just raise your hand and don't wave it just raise it you're still doing are you on a rave party I think she deserves the microphone she made a whole party show for us where's the microphone can we get the microphone please to the lady there in the fifth row somebody already has the microphone sorry, somebody already has the microphone can we get the microphone but don't worry we'll get to you as well please, what's your name please namaskaram sedu gru, my name is Matit first of all I'd like to say that it's our honor for having you here in Slovenia my question is you've mentioned that trees are a part of preventing the soil to go away so what can we do about the plantation here in Slovenia we have a lot of forests as you know but they are cutting trees in cities they are building a lot of residential areas over there and is there any way that we can approach this problem, thank you see everybody wants all the comforts and conveniences but at the same time we don't want to do certain things life doesn't work like that but at least right now could we have held this meeting under a tree if it was India we would have done it because the weather would permit it here we need a haw well how many trees did they cut to build this building they would have cut something definitely can't help it we can minimize it we cannot avoid it so let's understand this let's not always this is not something to be dealt with emotionally this needs to be done very pragmatically otherwise believe me if you pit economy and development versus ecology and trees and stuff ecology will lose it's very important we must design it in such a way both of them can thrive together otherwise people will talk ecology but vote for economy is not so everywhere in the world not just here that's a fact so one important thing that I have been doing when I was at the UN I told them my work is to officiate the marriage of economy and ecology because if these two things don't get together and work together simply it won't work for example in the Kaveri region we have done this see the farmers income has gone up in seven to eight years and those of them who gone for a certain level of trees once in twelve years when they fell these trees they getting about the same money they would get if they sell the land so every twelve years they can sell the land and still keep the land it's a good deal, isn't it you sold the land but still you have the land with you because they cut the trees and sold it for this is important that we understand how balance this I am not saying just blatantly do wild kind of development no but what is needed may have to be done otherwise people there is populations to serve, isn't it human beings have gotten used to a certain level of comfort and convenience you can't tell them go live in the jungle they won't do that they will talk about it they will appreciate it on the phone screen they like rainforest if you leave them in rainforest for one week they don't know what will happen to them when I lived in the jungles and after two, three weeks when I come home even my mother wouldn't recognize me head to toe insect bites because I slept on the trees and here and there and I'm bitten head to toe all right you can't even recognize me that it will take three, four times days to get back my shape of my features back so you are not ready for that kind of life we have gotten used to certain comfort and convenience today and people are not willing to go back to that kind of life which people lived you will see you know people even in villages today there is too much comfort but you will see older at least in the movies if you see people are like this because all the time something will be itching if you live in the natural conditions believe me you will be bitten head to toe with all kinds of things you must just get used to it because you can't avoid them you don't know where they are even today our center in United States in Tennessee we are nearly 17 square miles of land or over 20,000 acres we have committed 70% to conservation we will keep the forest as it is 70% of the land 30% we will build but if you enter the forest in the summer season you had it you had it means you had it the ticks are waiting up there they will sense your body temperature and they will shoot you won't know where they landed they will go on embed in the skin after two months that guy is crawling out of my belly you know this guy has gotten into me when I am in United States I am in India for about one and a half months after that I am sleeping in the night something itching and do something on my stomach then I pull out this living guy he traveled all the way from United States to India with me they are like that so don't romanticize too much it's very important we handle this pragmatically the way it is needed for today's life so our aspirations need to be modulated in such a way but at the same time not against everything that needs to develop in a country if you oppose they will beat you down and destroy all the forests don't do that make forests an attractive place where children can go and you know explore there is a certain love for the land this must come in the next generation that they enjoy being there otherwise you can't preserve it for long I appreciate the emotion behind it but it needs to be dealt with pragmatically and well we need to make the governments commit at least a certain amount of forests will never be disturbed you must make them commit that but in the city if you can't do development then people will complain they want roads, they want buildings they want conveniences, they want schools they want hospitals people need all this thank you ma'am I came this morning I must only the books is now at 9 o'clock I must leave and I apologize next question where is the mic the right company Namaskaram Sadhguru where is you she's right I'm Dragana from Serbia Belgrade first of all I want to say how grateful I am for all the people volunteers we were doing this job so thank you so much so my question is how to motivate young people to do the movement how they're motivated to go I think you're pretty young what do you think how old I am pretty and young thank you so much so my question is how to motivate young people to do this movement how they're motivated to go for example to the gym and pull the weights at least some of them they've given me a list of things you could do one thing is you follow this journey on save soil and YouTube because so this is because all these numbers how many people save soil in the next 91 days is going to be aggregated I'm addressing COP 15 in Ivory Coast on 9th and 10th of May 170 nations their representatives will be there UNCCD is the host for the COP and I am addressing the whole group by then if you have over 3 billion people for me on this various platforms it's a done thing one thing is share the savesoil.org website with as many people as you can especially the 6-7 minute video is there which I think they played in the beginning you can share that with as many people as possible don't limit this to Slovenia Croatia and other things, this has to be global because when it comes to ecology and soil national boundaries mean nothing only we human beings have this problem only we human beings have this problem that we cut up the planet in pieces and said this is mine and that is yours and every day we are fighting about it non-stop if we have no piece of land to fight about we will fight about our skin color or we will fight about some nonsense that we believe in race, religion nationality has taken enough lives so this has happened because we are continuously focusing on what is the differences between us we are aiming at what are differences between us all kinds of things hair color they are fighting can you beat it, anybody can change the damn hair color any time these days but on that some people are fighting there are groups of people in America fighting constantly on the social media my hair color versus yours you can go to your saloon and change the damn hair color tomorrow morning but about that they are fighting so I am saying we are always looking at what is different about us we need to look for common factors the common denominator for all of us if you don't understand what is the unifying cosmic consciousness if you don't know where the hell that is at least you understand our very bodies have come from this soil we nourish ourselves from this soil at least when we are dead we go back to this soil the question is only the question is only whether you get it now or you will get it when you are buried that is the only question you will anyway get it one day but if you get it now we can make a difference so let us look at the common factors that unify us I don't want this it is under the umbrella of conscious planet so this we are not going to stop with ecology once the necessary policy changes are achieved which I am confident in the next 18 to 24 months in most nations it will happen it is just that we want to give confidence for the governments that the people are with you otherwise they will hesitate and drag their feet about it why I am saying this is even in COP26 they did not address soil at all simply because they are afraid whether people will come with them or not so you have to show that people are with you if you do this we are with you if you give that confidence in the nations will move forward I want you to understand I know everybody has commentary about political leaders in the world but I want you to understand this if you had a profession where you are in the top job and tomorrow morning if you lose your election today tomorrow morning you are nothing if you had a job like that you would also do a few crazy things yes or no so let's be let's understand the problem that is there without peoples mandate they will not move so this is what needs to happen 3 to 4 billion people have to speak they don't have to support me your youth friends who are pulling weights they don't have to support me they just have to say something about soil for this 90 days if you do this getting the policy done is very much possible we have made this policy documents for each nation separately we will be offering the policy document to your leadership here and every all the 192 countries we have made separate documents for every one of them it will be offered to every nation more than anything we will push it through the UN and it will go through it is just that if it has pace is important at what speed it happens in given country that speed can be achieved only if you speak otherwise governments will make the policy and still hesitate to invest money on that people should give the confidence if you invest money for the well-being of the future generations we are with you you need to say that see right now if you have a child how many of your children you have of your own if you spend on your child to put the child in a good school you will forego something in so buying a fancy car you put the child in a university have you not done this every one of you hello one where the other so this is the way it is if a nation invests in future generations we may have to forego something you have to give this confidence to the government that if you invest in long term well-being of our nation we are with you this is all I am asking save soil means just this you are giving confidence to democratically elected leaders that if they invest long term you are with them if they don't invest everything that they have within this four or five years that they are ruling you will dismantle them this is the threat always from the populations yes in every country this is the problem so give them that confidence we will see that it happens and also the save soil song le le le le le make it reverberate across the country this should become your mantra for the next ninety days at least you can download this from this thing there is a QR code you can download that and in India the Isha homeschool children took up this commitment that they will inspire ten million children across the country to write a letter to the prime minister you for your population at least hundred two hundred thousand children if they write to your prime minister you think they will ignore this they cannot ignore this every one of you whatever you drive whether you drive a two wheel vehicle or a four wheel vehicle at least have one little save soil sticker if you don't have any vehicle stick it somewhere hello carry the message that you must understand this is not my planet it's our planet hello yes ma'am I'm Namrita and I'm ambassador of India to Slovenia thank you very much all these claps for you am I allowed to not just ask question but make a small share a small observation so thank you so much sub guruji for make sharing the differences between wood and forest that's very important and in the same line I want to share something today that happened earlier in the day and somebody told me that I don't understand the word soil here because I understand it as land so there's a problem in understanding and so I just shared what you shared with us just now and I said probably land is something with borders but soil is borderless so probably we have to really accept the fact that we need to change our perceptions change our narratives which is what the movement is talking about and with this sharing I just want to extend my heart thanks to you sub guruji for coming up taking up such an important cause sharing with the world and sharing the strengths of India you're our ambassador I'm ambassador to Slovenia but you're ambassador to the whole world India's ambassador to the whole world and sharing our strengths is to accept our weaknesses also which sub guruji so simplistically first of all he's taking the cause of soil from the complicated research textbooks and making it simplistic that is what we need today and simplistically he also shared shitty things about India one instance of shitty thing about India but that is about accepting our weaknesses making them strength and sharing their strength with the people and you gave so many solutions from India about the Kaveri river about the green cover about the recent announcement of so many billions of dollars that government of India has just shared for this cause and lastly now after having thanked sub guruji I want to thank Slovenia thank you Slovenia thank you loving people of Slovenia and here today there are not just people from Slovenia but also people from the neighboring countries so thank you all for joining this cause and from Slovenia you carry the promise I promise because like you mentioned this is one country which went to the uven to declare the world b day you spoke about the insects you spoke about the bees and we spoke about the soil thank you very much thank you so much that unfortunately was the last question we would like to thank our honorable guests and of course sad guru for being here, for sharing their thoughts and observations and perspectives before you go I have a gift from you for the volunteers we've heard that you like frisbee I like to play frisbee so this is sort of a that's too floppy can somebody catch it wonderful now throw it back please don't hit the camera there you go you got it man so the frisbee works even though it's a bit floppy it's a bit floppy oh I always carry a frisbee with me, I didn't know you guys like to play this somebody brought butter on their hands here we go one more thank you so much so my body your body, everybody is soil body so let's all get together to make it happen beyond race, religion gender and geography the unifier the save soil movement is a global effort to save our planet's soil from extinction my body, your body everybody is nice, it's like we rehearsed it now here's presenting you the soil song which has created soil waves across the world a dance for earth, let's talk soil sing soil, breathe soil and live soil please, let's hear the anthem le le le le this very body is soil my body your body everybody is just soil body dick of soil turns death into life depleted soils will not quench the fire of hunger unquenched hunger can burn the very world this is a generational responsibility save soil let's make it happen 91 days, you got to stay with me as soon as I leave your city don't forget this this is not about me this is not about this journey this is our commitment to our own lives and the lives that are yet to come we owe this responsibility to them and it is very much within our grasp to make this happen I am not asking you to go and turn the soil around all I am asking is raise your voices because your vote and your voice are the most important things in a democratic society vote you do what you want, that's your political stuff your voice must rise the whole world should hear this many people here nearly 1700 people I guess 1700 people with the gadgets that you have in your hand instead of selling silly messages on a smartphone if you use this smartphone properly just you this 1700 people can move 3-4 billion people what do you think, possible? let's make it happen let's make it happen