 welcome to the metal voice and here we go again me and Alan we did a review of an invincible shield and we thought you know what let's bring in some really smart guys to give us some more opinions and remarks about here where are they well they're coming soon just hang in there guys we couldn't get back so we got you guys you know March the 8th invincible shield will be released on epic records as I mentioned we're gonna do track by track review round Robin the tracks that people have not heard yet after that we'll talk about the bonus tracks do they deserve to be on the album the proper album or should they have remained as they are as bonus tracks we'll talk about the first four singles after that how do they fit with the album now that you've heard the rest of the album and we'll close off with our remarks and a review got Jaws Lavery all the way in Germany Tom in Milwaukee that's why we call Milwaukee Tom and Perrin just north of me in Montreal Laval Perrin Laval there you go I could try to say that I like the war I'll show the war large sovereign's gonna be happy with me today it's deliver us oh it's nice that's very there's a back to it all right guys let's talk about Judas Priest let's start off with the first track I'll let the Jaws lead it off we're gonna skip track one and two we're gonna go to track three which is invincible shield the track that no one has heard yet the fans are anxiously waiting for this album Jaws what do you think of invincible shield it's it's not one of my favorite tracks there's nothing wrong with it it's just another one of those quick fast short and sweet tracks nothing nothing bad but nothing nothing that particularly stands out overly not not overly melodic just you know it's probably a little bit like panic attack but not quite as good all right does it remind you of any era of Judas Priest actually reminds me of something off the KK's priest help me actually just kind of the fast quick direct to the point kind of kind of song so it's similar to that if you want to talk about recent priest history mm-hmm all right Tom what do you think about invincible shield I have a star next to it good it's a faster song 16th note double bass did it did it did it did which I'll says it's a uptempo faster song it's you know your stock garden variety fast song really good leads on it though lead solos I like that part so yeah so it's just did it did it remind you of any era of priest okay for Jaws it's KK yeah it's not what would you think if you have this particular song to me really didn't there's a couple others that I did take note that do remind me of an earlier era but this song more recent because it's Scott's drumming I pay more attention to drums so you know Scott's double bass work so it's probably more recent priests than the 80s or 70s priests yeah for sure all right so you liked it though you put a little star a little sticker yeah okay Perrin what do you think I use asterix's not I'm with Giles this one didn't have an asterix next to it for me but it wasn't bad I think like Giles said it's a very typical fast I'm actually surprised this didn't open the album right because it's a it's a fast pace song that would typically open an album it's the title track of the album invincible panic attacks Boston it has a cooler intro so yeah well definitely a cooler intro but I would have done invincible shield then panic attack maybe but regardless so fast one actually the intro the guitar intro reminded me a lot of the intro of the serpent and the king I don't think they're that different it's maybe yeah they're real similar they really they're almost too similar in a way and then Jimmy I'll I'll kind of jump in with your what does it sound like you know I say this is this album's ram it down the song ram it down not necessarily album but for me it's that kind of and ram it down is almost an anomaly on that album because well that album is kind of you know kind of turbo part two with a bit of leanings towards painkiller and the ram it down song is what leans more towards the heavy I think this reminds me a bit of a mix of ram it down and some of the free will burning defenders kind of stuff so nothing wrong with it at all it's a good early in the record song but I think there's better stuff coming which we'll get to you know I think it does sound like it could have been off of defenders of the faith more of the jawbreaker and free will burning vibe but I really enjoyed it as well so I already gave my opinion with Alan but you know I'll toss in a couple of words here and there devil in disguise what do you think yeah so not only do I use a star system but I also use a star with an exclamation point after it so this has a star and an exclamation point really really good opening riff on the song I like Scott's hi-hat usage on this song and that kind of an effect lyrically this song for me lyrics are down the pecking order of importance to me lyrics matter to me if they're really good or if they're really bad I noticed the lyrics in this song I like the lyrics so this is lyrically I liked the content of this song right so Jiles what do you think what song are we talking about devil in disguise it wasn't one of the ones that jumped out at me grow great lyrics again but it's it's the next one that jumped out at me this one this is a good song I think it's a good song but it's not a great song could this have fit on Redeemer of Souls yeah I think the last three priest albums all have similarities where they to an extent they could be fairly interchangeable because they've all been they've all been very very good mm-hmm all right so Perrin what do you think I attributed my first asterisk on this one we're talking about today so I put a star next to this one I liked it I feel like it swings and again I'm always gonna try and tie it to what it sounds like I felt like a little bit of a metal God's British steel kind of like I'm marching in time to the music kind of there was a there was a swing in this one that I really liked and I think a lot of the songs you can kind of tie it to something old and something new but I thought it was more firepower and angel of retribution but a time to get to the chorus I think the choruses are a lot like what we've been hearing in priest the last little while so a little a little old British steel a little new maybe angel of retribution or firepower the groove is the hook like sometimes the chorus is the hook I really think that the marching driving groove in the song is the hook of the song so yeah I like this one this one got my head bobbing and it didn't sound like I heard it before yeah I think angel of retribution would be a good era for this one and I think you guys maybe forgot to mention listen to to Richie Faulkner's guitar work this are like little musical passage with the groove that you're talking about Perrin you know it just it just it's so it's so nice the way he's playing the guitar and it's a great little musical sort of break off you know gates of hell Giles what do you think of gates of hell love it this is this is the first song of the ones we haven't heard yet that I would mean they ago there you go you know this is the sort of thing that Judas Priest does best great awesome hook great anthemic chorus I love the guitar melody underneath the vocal line yeah good up-tempo song I like the drum groove which reminds me a little bit of riot thundersteel type of privilege of power kind of black leather glittering steel kind of there it is song but I love gates of hell that sets a definite highlight for me a little bit of a hard as iron vibe from Ram it down to which is another great priest song okay all right gates of hell Perrin like this one a lot so it's too narrow that I gave draw a little thumb or a little asterix but this I agree job this is really a good one you know for me this was my point of entry kind of moment like there was this kind of a maybe maybe for a bit more modern production but I really liked I really like that kind of point of entry screaming for vengeance sound maybe a bit of hell bent for leather it retains its heaviness but it's not like a break next speed kind of heavy song it's just more of a feel and Richie solo on this one speaking of the word feel there's a lot of feel in the solo this is the I won't say it's the first solo on the album that really made me step up and take notice but it's less speed demon kind of playing and more kind of phrasing and articulating and within the song and I really like this one so yeah two thumbs up for this one for me as well all right Tom what do you think yeah same here it's one of my favorite tracks on the album I wrote down this is priest kind of what was Giles is talking about this is but this that opening the opening chords remind and this is another one of the songs that was reminiscent of days gone by it reminded me of bloodstone from screaming for vengeance the opening chords not the entire measures but just bloodstone yeah that's a good that's a really good I thought desert planes I thought there's a little desert planes in it but it's that it's definitely that kind of era I found and I also agree with the lead the lead solo and this was really good that stood out to me too I wrote that down to yeah very radio friendly like you could see this you know this was the 80s it could be played on the radio people would have really liked it enjoyed and the metal heads would have still thought it was a heavy enough song to all this is this has got some guts to it yeah and one thing I'll say guys like if they wanted to do out of like 14 tracks including the bonus tracks on this record they could probably play like half of this record live and I think it would go over well like I think I think the songs wouldn't be you know piss break songs I think the songs would come alive in a well-setting you know all right God is my witness Baron so this is one of my low points this is one of my low points of the album I gotta say and you know it's funny I felt like the fast intro was a bit bark of the moon-ish that's what I felt like I feel like Richie was channeling his inner Jakey Lee that's what I felt bark at the moon and funny normally I would say that's a good thing but this is one of the songs where I kind of say yeah I feel like I've heard this all before it just seems like you know it's like there's these middle of the pack painkiller songs that everyone seems to love but I cringe every time the band brings them back into the set list and for me it's kind of like that middle of the pack painkiller heavy for the sake of heavy not at all bad but my one of my least favorites on the record just because I don't know I just don't feel it's it's different I don't really feel like it goes anywhere so not a star for me I was not pleased with this one Tom yeah I think I did put a star next to it but it's not like a standout track for me I like the lead parts because it's so-called trading off here's the question though and this might be for a little later as a recap who's Richie trading off with is it him Barley is it himself? Is it Glenn? Is it Andy? Well we don't know he pretty much did most of the guitar work and he said only when Glenn can do something he would do something right but precisely when you listen to it you don't know but I love trading I love trading dual leads I love that and because of the fact we don't know we have we can take an educated guess it's primarily Richie's work because Glenn's dexterity with his condition can't do the more technical complicated chords you know you can't do it but we don't know for sure but I do love the trading leads in this in this track so that's what kind of made me like it more than what the track really is it's like parents it is kind of like it's there it's okay it's not a bad track. Charles what do you think Barkat the Moon? Love it it's one of my favourites on the whole record really good I mean we're never gonna know how much or not Glenn played I would I would probably assume that if he's in God bless him and all that but if he's getting up on stage and sort of struggling with living after midnight then he isn't gonna be like tearing up on the fretboard on the record so I mean composition is always more important than performance if you're you know and I do think he's the I think he's composed a fair bit of this record you know yeah for sure. Did you hear a little bit of that Randy Rhodes on the solo Charles? We bit yeah I mean I love it I love I mean I love the song I like the lyrics I like the chorus I like everything about the song it's it's one of my favorite Judas Priest songs. Yeah I liked it too God bite God speed leather rebel that's what I remember from it escape for from reality Tom what do you think escape from reality yeah oh it's not my sequence I was looking at man what the hell I'm talking about you know why cuz I removed the songs that have been already heard and I'm just going to the ones that no one first day with my new brain sorry. So did you put a star a thumb or did you put like a thumb? No I said this is to me was just an okay track okay multi-track see I don't really like it a lot when singers do multi-tracking I like I like just one voice and that song has it Rob singing you know he records a couple times and I don't like that so much but it's just a personal thing I didn't I did not have a star next to it it's not a bad track by any means I can listen to it I won't skip over it but I just thought it was an okay track. Charles escape from reality? Yeah I feel pretty much the same as Tom maybe a little more positive but it's to me it sounds like something from one of Helford's solo albums which are not bad by any stretch the imagination but it definitely has a Helford solo kind of sound to it something off-prusable. What about that Aussie whale or that wine we'll say? We'll never hear it. It sounds like paranoid what you think man did it have did it have an Aussie wine in the middle? Divergent sub-opinion here so this is a two-star song for me I this is track nine on the record and by this when you're nine tracks deep into a record it's kind of where you're gonna hear something that you haven't heard earlier in the record and I think this is very different than everything else on the record and I think there's a bit of a Sabbath-y vibe at the start like it is kind of the grungy moment and then I kudos to Charles for picking out the Helford solo but I'll go further back than that I think when he gets to the chorus I think there's a fight like inflection in his voice I think Rob is singing the way he sang on the first fight record war of words yes I like this I like this a lot this is two stars for me I hear fight I hear what is that two stars out of what I mean I thought it was like two stars out of ten I got confused. Every song either has no stars a star because I like it or two stars because I really like it. This might be my favorite song on the record of the ones I haven't heard just because it's dear and I love the heavy bottom end as well like we're nine songs in we haven't heard this yet on the record so it's like another change in direction very very interesting and the chorus is so fight and I love that okay sons of thunder Tom this is my favorite track on the album you know what it reminds me of not necessarily the song the how it sounds and how it's structured it's fast what I mean by running time it's not even three minutes long it reminds me of running wild on hellbent because hellbent's a short song they get right to it it's classic priest the vocal the way vocal the way Rob sings this song is rude that stood out to me the phrasing of his vocal work I thought was really cool and great lead so it's just a shade under two three minutes long it's a tempo it does it delivers a good so to speak so to speak but yeah that I it's it's right now it's my favorite track on the album yeah that was one of glenn songs by the way parent what do you think one of my least favorites and x is no good so we got stars and x is that how it works it's too simple look I every priest every priest record needs a three minute song about riding motorcycles so there's that you know but you know it's the tenth in the running order of the album it's a three and a half minute song about riding motorcycles it's just really simple catchy but it's just a little bit too cliche and a little bit stock for me like you know and and every album has a song like this like on the new saxon albums I like the ones about history and mystery I don't like the ones that are just about riding in your car same thing with the kks priest album I kind of complained that everything was just about the the cliche heavy metal subjects this is kind of a cliche heavy metal subject for me so you know three and a half minutes it's not offensive in any way it's just kind of there just kind of there but it doesn't make make me think more guys make me make me analyze it a bit more it's just too easy for me two sons of thunder jiles I don't want to think I hate thinking this is I mean heavy metal cliches are awesome and they work because they're cliche because they work and then the world needs more of them and kks priest are awesome at them I love the lyrics on the kks priest and I love the fact that sons of thunder is on this cell because I like songs about driving fast and hitting the road and just being a rock and roll bad boy because that's what it's all about hanging around in the parking lot with rock and roll women and playing heavy metal around this is what life is and this is what life's about it's about being brothers of the road and rocking the library god damn it yeah and that's why I I mean I just it's just boring I mean I love I love some rush but I don't know what the hell they're on about most of the time just sing a song about rock and roll man let's party and and then pick up some hot chicks with a big 80s hair and you know what what I asked richie about the song he said this is a sunset strip type song you know that's the way to be the way to be is to rock properly all right this would be the last of the not the last the last thing I ever want to do is use my brain parrot giants in the sky yeah I like this one alive you know this is a good ending to an album obviously there's bonus tracks but if you have the version about the bonus tracks this is how the album will end and who knows like you know Richie alluded to it maybe it's going to be the last album of their career so this is the last song on pre-slash album you know a song that's clearly you know I haven't analyzed the lyrics but it's clear it's about you know the great heavy metal people maybe Lemmy maybe Ronnie James Dio who we've kind of lost and paying homage to those giants in the sky uh so I do feel this one sounds kind of firepowerish I remember the cadence of the song was a bit of like the song children of the sun I thought on on firepower a little bit dirtier grittier and there's this thing in the middle where all the sun in it kind of slows down and Richie played why assume Richie plays this beautiful kind of classical acoustic piece and Rob sings very longingly and lovingly and it's a little bit cheesy but you know again I think metal does need a little bit of cheese so this is a lovely song this is a really fitting ends to the regular part of the album I think and I really really enjoyed giants in the sky what about you Giles giants in the sky yeah it's a good song it doesn't quite knock me out the way it seems to have affected Perrin it's okay it's cool um I like it a little tired of all these all out yesterday's look at all our dead heroes type of songs but you know we've all got a couple of them of our own so yeah why not it's a good song all right Tom yep I like the song as a matter of fact the opening riff I wrote down immediately without really comprehending what the lyrics are going to be about I put down kind of like a Sabbath riff which turned out to be the way I perceived it my perception was they were paying homage to you know bands like that so it was kind of weird that I wrote that down off the opening riff like a Sabbath type riff when in fact not specifically to them but it was kind of like making reference of bands and individuals probably too there are giants in the sky they're not with us anymore and they're legends but I like this coming as becoming an all too common thing I mean there's just as many dead guys as there's living guys of who's left now almost so it's gonna be more and more of a topic really happen more it's interesting because all you guys you know the lyrics even though it could have been very cheesy because a lot of these are rock stars are dead lyrics or songs are usually a cheesy song but this one it's it's done in such a way that it doesn't feel as cheesy as the ones that were used to so like as Tom and Perron go I'm not really sure what the lyrics are about that's good once you don't you're not sure what the lyrics really are about that's a good thing as Perron mentioned that middle part like three two and a three minutes in or whatever it is that makes it more of a better composition it's a more sentimental but the the acoustic or even neoclassical playing there on the acoustic part is beautiful I mean it's I like that part the price of admission alone yeah a well done song that could have been cheesy but really wasn't that's how I look at it okay here comes the bonus tracks now okay there were three fight of your live vicious circles in the lodger so we'll talk about the fight of your life what I guess the question here is what do you think of the song and do you think it should have been on the the album as you know a regular track or it should have room it should stay or actually it should stay as it is as a bonus track jowls I actually think this song's awesome and it really should have been on the record is it gonna be is it well I mean it doesn't even care anymore it's gonna be on the spotify we're gonna have all of them I mean it kind of is and and what I hate is that people always think of bonus tracks as like throwaways how many times is the bonus track or a b-side better than something that's on the record for sure fight of your life fight of your life school and the lyric cracks me up because he's obviously singing in the battle you're the last man standing because of his accent it sounds like he's singing in the bathtub the last on the last man standing and it's like it sounds like he's saying the bathtub because I caught me I'm like is he singing about the bathtub and I'm listening closer it's like in the battle I'm like wow okay but it's a great hook a great chorus and it's it's a highlight of the record for me and it probably should have been there instead of like dare I say it even the title track of the album or something like that it's a great song it's definitely not filler throwaway or bonus to me it's like an essential part of the listening experience I agree Perrin what do you think oh yeah I like it yeah oh yeah okay yeah the people kind of forget where bonus tracks came from right like it used to be that you would have bonus tracks on the japan albums and you had them on the japan albums because records were so expensive in japan you have to kind of give people a little bit something extra to get them to buy it so they weren't throwaway tracks or just b-sides or demos they were good stuff and I completely agree with Giles this is one of the best songs on the record so if if we are influencers in any way if anybody is on the fence if they're buying a physical copy and they're between buying the regular copy and spending an extra eight bucks for the three bonus songs buy the bonus version just for this song if nothing else because it's great it's I think the chorus in this song is the second catch yes or the co-catchest on the record along with crown of horns it has this delivering the goods almost kind of intro but I think is really cool it's kind of like old and new at the same time and the guitar tone the Richie's tone in this one is amazing so this was another one of my put two asterix's next to two out of two my two asterix's were this one and escape from reality along with some of the stuff we've already heard so definitely this song makes the bonus version worth it tom you know what I like about this song is it's inspirational so if you're dying of cancer or you have a sickness and you're fighting you know you put it on or if you're in the back if you're in the bathtub or you're in the bathtub trying to get out of it because you were slipped and fell you're the last man standing Tom would you yeah what do you think this is one of my yeah this is one of my favorite tracks on the Elton to Rob singing higher higher pitched not quite screeching but he's up there on this one the the leads are really good on this song and from a drummer standpoint I love the use of the china symbol china symbolize a really unique sound and Scott utilizes it in this song but it's one of my favorite songs on on the album and then I like pear and I have a star with an exclamation point so so I think we could it's safe to say that all four of us think this should have been on the proper album about it and I will I will buy if it comes out on cd with bonus tracks I will buy the bonus tracks okay well that's a good thing too right that's a great thing all right here we go parent vicious circle uh no this one so this was for me this was kind of a bonus track that's just kind of like yeah there and nothing on this record is bad nothing on this record offends me this vicious circle for me though was just kind of like I mean it is a bit fight I even the I don't know if you guys remember the band helmet from the 90s I felt I felt this was like a very 90s 2000s sounding song and for some people that'll be good for some people that'll be bad but uh yeah this this one just didn't really go anywhere for me necessarily so of the three bonus tracks it was my least favorite and it made me say okay was this really necessary okay all right tom what'd you think I like it um great opening riff it's a short song it's to the point well hold on pause pause for one second parent on bonus track or not or should have been on the album the proper album or not it didn't need to be on the album and I don't even think it needed to be a bonus track so okay it should have just been completely written off all right tom sorry go ahead no I think it should be on the album I like it that much because that's a pretty good it's a basic song the lead part is not a smoking lead on this particular track it's pretty just there but I love that the opening riff for me carries through the song so that's why I like it that much okay and jiles did we talk about vicious circle didn't do a whole didn't do a whole lot for me um I like to escape from reality I'm not so crazy about this song to me it's kind of this is truly like b-side material it's interesting how escape from reality and and vicious circles sound more like health and solo stuff as I said or even as parents said fight and I think these two songs really reveal the lack of atlantic kk as as as like fully like full-time members because it is starting to sound a bit more like health and solo stuff but then health and solo stuff also sounded playing like plenty like priest as well so it's perhaps a moot point but it just feels like there's other hands in it at this point you know yeah it sounds like more like metal mic and patrick lockman than it does yeah yeah it just doesn't seem like it doesn't sound like either glan or even kk it sort of sounds like you know it's just the influences coming from different people different places on those two songs it's probably the only song on the whole record that I'm probably just gonna like perpetually skip for the rest of my life so you're like parent it's not doesn't deserve to be a bonus job it should be a b-side on a demo song unless I wake up tomorrow and I'm like hey this is my favorite song on the record because that has happened before but I don't think so this one doesn't just just isn't me you know okay and tom you didn't tell me do you keep this on the album as a bonus track or you just toss it all together have it on the album he likes it so of course you keep it on maybe just want to keep it as a bonus track I put it on the album all right I put it on the album I see what you mean I think man I just wipe it out all together like I like to delete my musical genocide just eliminate it you know all right last last bonus track Giles the lodger very blue is the cult type of song actually I like it a lot should have been on the album should have been on the album parent this is what a bonus track should be this reminds me of some of the maiden bonus tracks that couldn't be on the album because they were just different you know like you wouldn't put sheriff of huddersfield or whatever like on an album it would need to be a b-side this is different this is like just so different it's like it's Rob Halper doing his uh David it's because it's because bob halligan jr. wrote it that's why yeah well look I find there's a theatrical delivery there's like a spacey vibe to it I mean obviously there's a lot of storytelling it's like musical theater so uh yeah I think this is a it's my middle of the three bonus tracks but it's it's good did bob did bob write this one yeah bob halligan jr. yeah he wrote it and he gave it to them yeah for he wrote it a few years ago and he's been trying to get it them to play it and you can see it's different because they didn't write it you know it is different and so to answer your question before you ask it I wouldn't have it on the album but I would have it as a b-side because for me it's what a b-side is supposed to be but what about bonus track it's well I sorry I would have it as a bonus track it is it is it is a bonus track yeah he would keep it like there he would keep it there he wouldn't shift on it doesn't necessarily fit with the rest of the album but it's from the same sessions it's different it's interesting so I think having it as a bonus track is the perfect place to put it and again it makes the bonus track version of the album worth it okay tom I didn't like it I listened to it twice and those will be the last two times I ever listened to that song it's horrible pretty straightforward sorry it's just not it doesn't even keep it so he doesn't like it I hate it so you would delete the file completely right I would run the bonus you wouldn't put on the album not even a b-side it would be a clunker I don't even what are you what are you doing this doesn't even get this out of here it's horrible I hate it I like it but I'm like parent I would keep it as a bonus track as it is I wouldn't change it I would keep it it's where it should be that's what I want to say it's where it should be totally agree and versus vicious circle I would delete it and fight of your life I would definitely put it on the proper album so if you didn't buy the deluxe version it would be on that album that's where I would put it but it's okay as a bonus track too all right guys so let's talk about all right the first four singles was panic attack the serpent and the king king crown of horns and trial by fire now that you've heard the rest of the album were those songs a good choice were those songs the right choices for the first four singles or would you have chosen another four songs tom I'm fine with the four that they selected because I thought it was a little bit you know a mix of styles of songs we can nitpick and say well you know this one song here I could replace it with one song there and I'm fine with what they released together as a four so I think it's pretty decent I'm good with it and I never I thought that you know listening to them without obviously hearing the rest of the album but I'm cool that that's fine with me do they did they represent what the album is like diverse I don't think production why I think they you know if you wanted to just you know place and dice slice it up like that yes they could have put one of the harder songs on and replace it with any one of the three but or four I should say but nah I'm cool I'm fine with that I think it represents the album pretty good yeah okay all right what about you parent would you have kept those four if you go back in time and you're the management of Judas Priest you go you know what these are the four we're going with yeah I think they represent the album really well I think you have the serpent and the king which is kind of heavy and fast you have crown of horns which is kind of more melodic you have panic attack that started with that synth and the roller toms that kind of showed that there was going to be some different stuff happening on this album and you had trial by fire which is very again epic kind of marching Judas Priest so I think the four kind of showed a lot of different facets of this record and I guess that's what you want to do with the band singles right you want to say you know here's us here's kind of an overview of what this record is about and I think the four of them are an overview of what the album is about and I think they're all quite good like I in their own right they're different but those four along with a couple that I mentioned is double star songs are my favorite on the record so I think I think very very good choice of singles whatever you just good choices of first singles yeah yeah more or less yeah I mean crown of horns is amazing song I love it listen to things like that all day and I do that's a great track yeah I would be I would be just I mean I you know I'd be tempted to go like make gates of hell the fourth single instead of serpent of the king but then I don't want to buy an album where the four best songs I've already heard I like still wants to I still want that's that's actually a very good point that's a great point like there's enough surprises of the songs that you haven't heard right yeah because a lot of times you buy the you know you hear the first four singles or three singles yeah that's it and then there's nothing left they've shot their load on the shot their load on all the singles and the rest of the album you don't even feel as good as the stuff yeah because I already feel like I wished I hadn't listened to the singles because I can imagine how much more I'd be enjoying this album if I'm hearing panic attack and crown of horns in particular for the very first time I'm wondering if that's somehow hurting my my experience of the album maybe but you know as time goes on that'll be where I go to listen to those songs and I will listen to it as a full piece of work but right now I'm kind of skipping past someone's I've heard already and dealing with what's left and then out of what's left there's like two that I think are like could be singles killer killer tracks and then some other very very good stuff and then some then a couple that are like not so much I kind of wish I'd had it all fresh you know but um you know you gotta have singles otherwise no one will buy an album I guess but there are songs outside of the four that they released that I like more than them so that's always like you were saying Jesus you don't want to blow it out for me right so there are a couple songs that I like more than each one of those four songs I like those four songs but I think they go higher too even in that so that's a nice surprise so let's let's some closing remarks about your overall feeling about the album and you know just give it a rating out of ten you know what I get it you know what your what you feel about it today might not necessarily be the same rating a year from now but what do you feel how do you feel about it right now Tom well I mean overall thoughts about this album how does it where does it stand in the catalog yeah I like it more than well only two listens in so I could change I could go up or down I don't know how it's going to shake off but I like it right now more than firepower okay that's I like firepower I got it out of a ten scale I got it at an eight right now it might go okay Tom eight it's gotta sit it's gotta sit better okay yeah yeah so I'm really happy with it I was pleasantly surprised I was a little afraid of what it could possibly have turned out to be but I never know anymore you try to write a hundred and fifty songs or come up with something good when you think about it that way oh that's that's not easy good so it's not Charles I only write good songs um the I wasn't worried I don't even care that much you know I couldn't care enough to be worried you know it's like Judas Priest it's not the end of the world if they make an album that's not so good that's happened before but I do I like it a lot I really like it um um it's not quite firepower to me though that that had like uh rising rising from ruins and a few other you know things that just really that was a special album they come along once or twice in a career this is a very very strong follow-up or a very very strong album but it's not firepower okay Baron up would you how would you rate it out of ten today oh I don't know like give it a seven or something that's pretty pretty damn high considering eights nines and tens are considered saved for the greatest albums of our generation or two you know where would firepower be out of ten you know I'd give four and a four like a nine you know to put it in perspective I'd give mob rules like a 10 out of 10 so you know you've got to save those higher marks for the classics this is this this is a set this is a really strong seven out of 10 okay Baron you know what I like about this record is I think it's a trip through Judas Priest history so if it's the last record I think there's something on this record for every era of fan maybe more in the 79 to 90 kind of fan like I think this record draws a lot from hell bent for leather to painkiller but also it sounds like they're they're modern stuff it fits in with firepower fits in with the reunion era of Judas Priest I think it might be I love firepower I would give firepower an eight but I would also give this an eight so I for me it's right there with firepower I think it's a bit more diverse than firepower and that's why I might give it a slight advantage over firepower Rob sounds great how produced it is we don't know I think Richie's playing is a guitar hero or the guitar playing that's not to say Richie I think the guitar playing on this record is guitar hero level playing and I think the rhythm section is solid and I really want to call out Scott Travis this just this isn't just rapid fire double bass trigger drums every song Tom alluded to it there's a lot of different things happening in different songs and nuance and heavy playing but there's also subtle playing I think this is a fantastic drum performance by Scott Travis on this record so great rhythm section great guitars great vocals diverse songs 8 on 10 excellent record for me I would say I'm more in the Tom camp than the Perrin camp in the Giles camp I think it's a step up from firepower there it's kind of like firepower plus you know like you said I said a little more diverse a little more intricate in terms of musical passages throughout the album maybe I've lived with it more so I can hear those little nuances over time but I would definitely put in like 8.5 8.6 out of 10 I think it's a strong strong album but that's just me that's just me guys it's been a pleasure thank you so much for your time and reviewing this album I think people will really get a good feel for what this album is like from all these diverse opinions diverse opinions on the album diverse opinions on the 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