 Oh my God, you wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice the traditional offerings but you're happy to sacrifice those birds, aren't you? If you care more about that than you care about those innocent beings, there's no hope for the world. So I was sent this article here by a friend of mine and I thought it was interesting because I really wanted to respond to it, react to it and get your opinion on this because I know there's a lot of vegans who follow this channel, there's a few people who aren't vegan who follow this channel and I thought we could create some discussion in the comments section but this is from the mirror and it says I won't cook my guests a non-vegan Christmas dinner, I'd rather they not come. Sounds like a militant vegan right here. With November officially upon us, Christmas is now right around the corner and many families are beginning to organise who will be hosting the annual get-together this year but one mum has said that while she's keen on doing the hosting duties, she knows some of her family will be unimpressed because she's a vegan. The woman insisted she doesn't want to cave and allow the meat eaters to bring their own cuts to chomp on because she could not stomach sitting next to people who are scoffing down animals. Very interesting. This person is a vegan like I'm a vegan so this is some very biased reporting going to be hearing from me right now. Why would they want the body of an animal that more often than not like the vast majority are factory farmed in appalling conditions so this animal endured the most horrific suffering and cruelty then they were executed and if this is in the UK it's by gas chamber if they're a turkey. Why would they want that corpse of that suffering on their Christmas dinner table and Christmas is supposed to be about the time of giving and happiness and sharing and family and all these things and there'd be this poor innocent bird who'd went through hell in order to bring these people pleasure on this vegan's table so I empathise with her but what do you think down below get the discussion going so the vegan wrote in a post on mum's net what's mum's net is that some internet for mums I'm thinking of hosting Christmas this year we're a completely vegan family and have been for a number of years I'm an amazing cook so I'm planning a nut roast with all the usual Christmas dinner trimmings and Christmas pudding sounds delightful can I come over for Christmas dinner you've got my email and I'll see you there the thing is I feel the lack of meat might ruffle a few feathers excuse the pun yeah well you're excused some members of the family are staunch meat eaters who think we're going to die from malnutrition and make their views known at every opportunity that's hilarious and if you're a vegan watching this you know that like whenever you mention your vegan people go oh my god like where do you get your protein from your nutrients are you are you gonna die soon or like there's no protein in plants is there oh my god um the mum explained she previously invited her family to dinner and said many of them weren't happy with her menu choice so she's now torn on whether to extend an invitation to them all she added we invited them to dinner a few years ago and they were put out that they couldn't bring their own meat you know like if it was my house just let you know it was my house you ain't bringing no dead poor suffered animal bodies into my house or putting it on my table um and if you are like a friend or family you would understand that that would make me feel incredibly upset you know a lot of vegans are actually activists as well so they're trying to prevent this horrible suffering from happening and to bring that like that body part into the someone's house I think it was so disrespectful like it's so disrespectful that you can't have one day without eating body parts eat body parts every day of the year but this one one day you're going to your vegan family's house and you still want to bring that suffered dead bird in to their house she said but I just could not stomach sitting there eating with other people while they're eating dead animals they might as well be eating a dead dog it repulses me that much I find me absolutely disgusting my husband is the same of course you're talking to me the vegan animal rights activist here I agree with them like there's no morally significant difference between a dog and a pig and a turkey like once you connect with these cows and pigs and turkeys once you see them chopped up on the on the table you've got to understand for a vegan that is like it's like a bit of a horror story it's like oh my god like like anyone remember tinsel from last year imagine seeing tinsel get their head cut off and served on a table like how horrible like so people who commented were in favor of inviting the family members but staying firm with the decision to not serve meat one person said invite them explain the ground rules and don't be offended if they decline a second person posted definitely invite them but don't offer me a meat eater but would be delighted to eat a lovingly made vegan meal and wouldn't dream of commenting see just a polite respectful person like you know I mean a lot of people say like vegans are rude or vegans are rude vegans are rude but a lot of meat eaters are rude to me vegans like just unnecessarily cruel to them you know they know that that vegans don't like animal abuse and animal cruelty and it's it's horrible suffering and if you'd witness what the animals go through you'd understand why vegans are vegan but fair enough let's just say it's not fair enough actually it's incredibly egregious injustice that you don't want to be vegan but i'm just saying like let's just say you don't want to go vegan the least you could do is at least you know respect your vegan friends show them a bit of respect like if they don't want dead corpses in their house then just have the have a vegan meal they're good vegan meals are good try the vegan food I mean what's what is this like you're like a small child you don't want to eat your vegetables you don't want to eat a nut roast with gravy and like a you know vegan turkey roll they're amazing you can get toferky there's so many amazing vegan foods like roast potatoes are vegan for god's sakes you know anyways another added if I were eating with vegetarians or vegans I'd not expect them to serve meat and I'd be excited to to try whatever they offered me see just cool you're a look whoever commented this give me an email coming around I'm gonna cook you vegan dinner for a week straight send me an email however others explained Christmas isn't the best time to serve vegan food to me eaters as many will be looking forward to turkey well the turkeys aren't looking forward to turkey uh most turkeys are factory farmed in the UK and they live in appalling disgusting hellhole conditions and then we'll gas chamber to death and turkeys are incredibly intelligent animals they're beautiful beautiful little sentient birds it's like the height of selfishness and injustice you know just to expect that bird be murdered on your behalf because you're looking forward to eating their body bare minimum don't bring it into your vegan family house but ideally you shouldn't be eating them at all these are incredible birds and you can get the same taste of turkey like I've been vegan now eight years eight years since World Vegan Day and you get the same taste texture that you're used to on Christmas Day like I have Christmas dinner every year and it's usually something like a vegan roast with potatoes and vegetables and gravy or something like this and like an amazing vegan Christmas pudding or you know I don't get drunk anymore but a lot of alcohol was vegan too like just go in the app Barnabour like oh I'm going to do a Christmas special this year and it's coming and we're going to show you all the amazing vegan foods that you can have at Christmas time someone wrote if you invited me I wouldn't come there are many times when I'm happy to eat vegan food Christmas isn't one of them well so on Christmas you want to be especially cruel to the animals on Christmas a on Christmas you know the day of celebrating you know family and giving gifts and the birth of Jesus Christ whatever Christmas represents I don't even know it's just a tradition everyone practices and doesn't really question but Christmas isn't one of those days you want to be kind and compassionate to the animals a it's just Christmas definitely 100 million percent on that day I want as many animals to be tortured and sacrificed for me as possible so I can have as much pleasure from their demise and their misery as I possibly can because it's Christmas and that's my gift to the world is to cause as much egregious animal suffering and cruelty and death as I possibly can and stuff their corpses down my throat and I better stop because I could just keep going if on Christmas you don't eat vegan food then you better not be eating any potatoes bro better not be eating any of those peas you better not be having any of those cherries better make sure that nothing you eat on Christmas is vegan bro but I'm sure you do eat vegan foods on Christmas don't you you eat potatoes you know knowing me did is even the potatoes are cooked in goose fat the fat of murdered geese this person here is just like one of the most selfish people on earth the you know just doesn't want to not harm the animals on Christmas which should be a day where people do extend compassion to animals and another agreed adding I'm a meat eater and while I would totally respect your beliefs and would in no way expect to be serve me in your house I'm afraid I would decline to eat my main meal and just visit after dinner you would decline to eat your main meal you would decline the vegan food what's the matter with you mate what's the matter I bet you are that little kid who's like it's nothing personal I wouldn't mind for another meal but I love Christmas dinner and I would be and I wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice the traditional offerings oh my god you wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice the traditional offerings but you're happy to sacrifice those birds aren't you happy to sacrifice those animals and I've been in these farms many of these farms now and I'm telling you right now these are the most horrible feces ridden filthy grotty disgusting filthy prisons that you've ever seen and if you'd like to live for I'll give you one week in there and you'd be you come out crying desperately with PTSD it's that horrible okay they're living on on top of their own feces they're murmuring desperately suffering it's a horrible factory farms are all horrible hellholes disgusting places and if you want to go to those happy animals like you know oh there's these happy animals that you know take me to the farm I don't know where these places are but most animals are factory farmed in the UK and the US and Australia everywhere but even those places those animals go to a slaughterhouse a slaughterhouse so you don't want to sacrifice your tradition of sacrificing innocent beings but you're happy to support slaughterhouses on Christmas do you think there are slaughterhouses in heaven it's a christian religious tradition do you think there are slaughterhouses murdering billions of innocent beings in heaven torturing them in factory farms destroying god's earth everyone knows about sustainability now and a vegan diet reducing the earth's farmland by 75% and you know global warming and the incredibly stupid use of our resources feeding them all to animals and then butchering them if you believe in Christmas and you believe in this christian tradition destroying god's earth if you care more about that then you care about those innocent beings there's no hope for the world there is no hope for us to care about each other if you care more about having your meat on your plate at Christmas then you care about all of these other topics like animal suffering animal rights horrible environmental destruction but you want your turkey on Christmas okay should we respond to some comments okay might as well Kathleen says she's entitled to serve only vegan they're entitled to stay home i'd be staying home any other time i would eat vegan but not for Christmas i would come to visit after dinner Kathleen another selfish meat eater who only cares about her selfish taste buds and not of the lives of the innocent animals missy jane says that's down to her but i hope she doesn't expect people to cook her a special vegan meal when she visits them as it works both ways well missy jane she already said she doesn't want to sit down with the bodies of animals on her table so she wouldn't come over anyway if you cook to a vegan meal if you had corpses on the table she wouldn't come over like you're another you know selfish individual who only cares about their taste buds and doesn't care about the suffering and rights of animals couldn't they make the compromise that someone cooks and brings a turkey with them instead no one should make people eat foods that they don't want to eat oh my god kimberley like wow do you care about justice now sounds like you're a freedom fighter no one should make people eat foods they don't want to eat you know no one should make an animal go through that type of hell so you can eat their body like don't you think of that kimberley like you're more offended that someone won't let them eat meat inside of their house because they care about animal rights you're more offended by that than you are by the horrible mass murder of innocent beings so you can eat a piece of their body at christmas time and there should be options especially at christmas in my household there have been four years both meat and vegan alternative and people have been able to come along if they wanted who just the queen of justice like you but even though you eat the corpses of these dead animals lin ross says i would eat before i went and not worry about what she was serving just be with the family well okay lin no worries like can't control lin over here he's just gonna eat before he comes but he's still gonna go over there and be like and not completely refuse going to see their family so he'd make sure he got a bit of animal abuse in before he went to the vegans house her house her rules it's simple it's easy to go and be happy in with what you're given or don't go it really isn't a hard choice i'm not a vegan but i understand and respect their decisions and i certainly respect their choice in their house oh we're starting off good here respect their choice in their house okay she's into respecting choices charlotte maybe she respects the choices of the animals and thinks oh well they do they choose to die i don't think they'd choose to die maybe they choose to live so so i'm liking this so far let's continue however i don't like hearing however if i was cooking a christmas dinner and had a vegan coming i would make sure they were catered for and i'm happy to but then it would be my house and my rules and i'm happy to accommodate okay well sounds pretty nice charlotte um but if you care about um respecting choices charlotte maybe you should just respect the animals lives you know what i mean you say well don't go it isn't isn't really a hard choice you know but you know how easy it is to make the decision to be vegan and to respect the choices of animals they don't choose to be in a slaughterhouse i think she's totally right to not serve something she doesn't agree with to her guests and also i think non-vegan should be sure to have some vegan options if they invite a vegan uh look i'm liking all these people you know being accommodating two vegans i think that's really nice of them but i think they should be nice to the animals and stop paying for them to be gas chambered and murdered but you know what what do i know i'm just just just thinking out loud haha here we go dirk dago got a screencap that one because we're going to put it in the video right now to be honest i don't think they want to go to your house for christmas for a vegan meal they don't force meat on you and you shouldn't force vegetables on them my advice is to stay clear of this vegan christmas oh dirk dago mate you're just the most hilarious who is dirk dago let me just have a little close up here well they can't see he's got silly teddy bears must be a little troll account but um you know like don't force they don't force meat on you and you shouldn't force vegetables on them well you know what mate you shouldn't force animals to suffer in horrible hellhole factory farms and then force them to die in a blood filled fear filled disgusting death factory slaughterhouse so you can eat their body parts i think if you want if you care about forcing then maybe you should care about what your lifestyle is forcing on innocent beings what do you guys think down below let's get into the discussion i personally you're not bringing any murdered animals into my house i'm not sitting at the table with you why you're eating murdered animals it's just a principle of mine if you want to hang out with me we're going to eat vegan i was a anti child abuse activist i wouldn't want some horrible child abuse paraphernalia on the table when i go to your house but i understand this is legal abuse of animals this child abuse is illegal this is legal abuse of animals joey you know it's traditional we've been doing it for thousands of years i've heard it all out of principle i wouldn't have that stuff on the table at my home christmas is coming up and a lot of vegans are going to be have to have to go through this exact same problem so let's start a discussion down there in the comments section do you think it's unreasonable for this vegan not to allow animal products in her house i definitely wouldn't i'm on her side what about the meat eaters down there do you think it's unreasonable of the vegan not to want these body parts in her house on christmas what do you think meat eaters should stop being suki lala sour sobs and just eat some vegan food and they might even really like it now what is this attachment you can't let go of just one day leave your comments down below and i'll see you all in the next video here's to a vegan christmas coming very soon to a youtube channel knee you my youtube channel peace