 Monday and we're going to pass you a huge great good morning to you. Good morning, Lee. Still playing the wrong jingle here, but I know I should look at it. Never worry about it. It's the only you said that. Nobody would know. You'd be alright. How are you keeping? Doing good. Did you have a good weekend? I did. I had a few bits of bobs, don't I? I took it handy, don't I? Not really the wrong jingle, innit? All right, Lee. Have a good show. See you tomorrow morning. Good luck. Safe journey home. All right, today is nine o'clock. It's another week of the nine till noon show. Time to say good morning now for a news update to Donald Kavanaugh. Thank you, Greg. Good morning. Yellow Ice Orning remains in place for the country, with temperatures below freezing in many parts of Donegal. A similar warning in place in Derry, Tyrone and Framanna. A winter weather advisory continues in place for the coming days, with hail, sleet, snow and freezing fog on the horizon. Drivers are being urged to exercise caution on all roads in the Northwest with conditions dangerous, particularly on untreated roads. The garter commissioner, Drew Harris, appears before a meeting of the Donegal Joint Policing Committee this afternoon. He'll be facing questions about the new system of policing in the Northwest, which will see Donegal's sluggo and litrum combined into one Northwest region, overseen by a single garter superintendent. The JPC chair, Councilor Joe McGonigal, says they'll also be asking the commissioner about the allocation of Gar thee to the Northwest region. The public expenditure minister says he deeply regrets the situation over undeclared costs in 2016. Pascal Donohue acknowledged an additional spend of 1,057 euro should have been included on his statement for the general election campaign that year. It comes after a complaint was made against him disciple, alleging he failed to properly declare work around the erection and removal of posters that year. Shin Fainty Louise O'Reilly says Minister Donohue needs to go into more detail. What he hasn't done is he hasn't provided information about the six people. So he says that there were six people over four nights using a company van for some of that period and potentially using their own vehicles for some of it as well. But he doesn't say how they were paid, who had paid them, what was the value of the service that they had provided. Adelente's area councillor is welcoming progress on a new housing development in Goudour. Councilor Michal O'Reilly says the announcement that 29 units are to be completed over the next two years in Goudour is good news, but he says more needs to be done to stop people emigrating from West Denigol. I certainly encourage news from House and Construction and I'd like to give recognition to the House and staff locally and Lifford, but at the same time things are moving far too slow for us. Yes, we are talking now the possibility what government approval 29 units for Goudour ground breaking this year and turned keyed in 2024. But if you look at other areas like Hirra, Krasvala, Al-Qaara, Al-Khaliyah, Ar-Nigra, Duhuri, Lychamakwa, Tari and more, all these places here are badly needed of houses. We have something like a copper on the people on the housing list. There are scores and scores of individuals and families who are leaving because the cost of housing is beyond them. A new global tourism campaign is being launched this morning by Minister Catherine Martin in Dublin. The campaign will highlight the attractions Ireland has to offer. It'll be the first time industry leaders meet in person since 2019. Niall Gibbons is Tourism Ireland's CEO. For the first time in three years in real life, we'll be launching our 2023 marketing plans to promote Ireland to the globe in a post COVID world. It'll be great to have so many people in person in Dublin on Monday today and Belfast on Wednesday and we'll be setting out a strategy really to see the return of overseas tourism with a good strong marketing budget provided by our ministers and a brand new campaign. Cold this morning with frost and icy stretches, they will clear slowly lingering in some parts. Today we'll bring sunny spells and scattered showers, some of those showers wintry. Top temperatures today just two to three degrees Celsius with light to moderate northwest breezes and that's Highland Radio News back with news again at 10 o'clock. The county's number one talk show, The Nine Till Noon Show on Highland Radio and now it's time for the talk of The North West, The Nine Till Noon Show with Greg Hughes on Highland Radio. Hello, good morning to you. It is four minutes past nine on this Monday the 16th of January 2023. You're very welcome along to another edition of The Nine Till Noon Show, another week of the programme. It's a busy one you know it's going to be busy anyway. I say because I can say it with confidence we've got so much lined up for you to keep you informed and entertained. We want to know what you want to talk about as well, any stories you want to pass on maybe there's all positive stuff as well you know that's more than welcome here. 08 660 25,000 WhatsApps and texts that number 08 660 25,000 or give us a call at 07 491 25,000. If you wish you can email comments at highlandradio.com you can message me on my social media or you can watch on our social media go to YouTube Highland Radio Ireland was streaming for you there as we are across our Facebook pages and on our website highlandradio.com that's highlandradio.com. Right as I say plenty to keep you informed entertained as this Monday cracks on it was a cold one overnight wasn't it it's going to be cold all week mild weather returning on Friday but did you see the snow in some parts of the county yesterday dozens of vehicles caught out at a mean aroy there I don't think we've seen anything as bad since but it just goes to show in a county that's geographically made up as ours is in one part of the county lovely weather in another people are trapped in snow it's crazy really when you think about it. Let's see what's happening in the papers today the Dairy People Donegal News HSC worker has said the removal are all downgrading of now dock and letter Kenny would be a devastating blow to the county possible to and of course it's not just letter Kenny either by the way possible changes to the operations of the out of our service in the Northwest could see care doc which supplies GPs for the now dock service taking over the region under proposals the now dock call center and triage will no longer be based in letter Kenny more instead operate of out of Carlo this is spot concerns that the delivery of care for patients locally would be negatively impacted the employee who did not wish to be named was speaking his fears continued to mount that the future of out of our services following the commencement of a review at the house services in the region are currently being carried out the employee said staff were left devastated after being told of the possible takeover they said the services invaluable as an out of ours medical backup for the Donegal public in addition it helps keep numbers down in accident and emergency the staff were told of a possible takeover and are awaiting HSC letters but this is say I got cited the initial letter from care doctor number of weeks ago now and it wasn't clear whether or not sort of a drop in in letter Kenny would be gone or not but as I say it's just important to point out it's not just letter Kenny here there's a suede of the county with their own now dock offices that are also concerned the dairy news this morning rate payers in the Dairy City and Straban District Council area are facing the prospect of a 12% increase in the rate bills in the incoming financial year the rate will be struck in the first week of February a special meeting to discuss the situation took place on Friday it was attended by council staff councillors MPs Gregory Campbell and column Eastwood and MLA's Gary Middleton, Kira Ferguson, Padre DeLarge, Mark H. Durkin and Sinead McGotland. Dairy News understands council is also considering a wide range of cuts to its services in an effort to reduce its annual expenditure. On to the Irish Times now what do you make of this Pascal Dunhoo story he at the time was head of the department which heads up SIPA were now who finds himself reported to SIPA and that seemed in his statement and subsequent questions that he feels maybe that you know he always hails himself up to the high standards almost how dare you question that I should do anything purposely but you know what we're all the same here and everyone deserves at the same level of scrutiny really bucketing down with snow here at the mountain top at the moment I don't know it's like where you are but anyway Minister for Public Expenditure Pascal Dunhoo failed to properly record election expenses paid by a friend who was later included on a list of names he submitted as suitable to head up a state task force headquartered in his constituency now this is either a remarkable coincidence or certainly requires well in any case it requires some explanation. Mr Dunhoo last night apologised at length for submitting the inaccurate returns which he believed were accurate and true at the time he put them in but ignorance is not a defence either he said he now accepted he failed to correctly record 1057 euro in election expenses which was paid for in the form of a donation to Dublin Central Finigale by the businessman Michael Stone Mr Dunhoo said he had in recent weeks become aware 917 euro had been paid to six workers for posturing by Mr Stone before the election he had previously believed the work was done on a voluntary basis that these seven people were just working out of the pure love of the man the use of a van owned by Mr Stone's company for the post ring was valued at 140 euro Mr Dunhoo became aware of this in 2017 and on last evening said he would have amended his election expenses then saying it was a clear oversight on my part which I acknowledge and apologise for right okay I think there's a much more to that story I think a politician that holds that whose department holds all other politicians to account should also be held to the highest level of account there all right interesting interview on that I heard on national radio in the morning in that the journalist in question was questioning a Sinn Fein representative and was actually arguing on behalf of Mr Dunhoo what if he forgot about this and what about this and would you know do all parties not do that I thought it was a peculiar position for a journalist to take Mr Dunhoo I'm sure would be well capable of going on the radio and defending himself but it was interesting to hear a journalist nationally putting arguments as to why this is okay to a member of the opposition I don't think that's objective journalism really I think that's the role of Mr Dunhoo to come on and do that himself the Irish independent just 15 nursing home groups own 40% of all private nursing home beds in this country and unpublished government report reveals the first major audit of the sector shows that global nursing home groups and international investment firms along with a large scale Irish operator owns 10,720 of all private beds in Ireland the report finds there has been significant consolidation in private nursing care in recent years operators with multiple homes now make up the majority of the market the data reveals the number of big operators with more than 100 beds increased dramatically between 2016 and 2021 under years the years under review while the number of smaller homes with fewer than 20 beds has fallen now I don't know what the consequence of that is to be completely honest with you in terms of nursing bed ownership and who owns them and the negatives or pros in that regard interestingly they just manage one paragraph on Pasco Dunhoo on the front of the Irish independent there nothing of that story on the front of the rest of the papers I'll be looking at as far as I could see the Irish Daily Mail tells us that tensions are growing in the coalition over controversial proposed tax breaks for developers being used to fix the housing crisis sounds all very familiar this doesn't it T Shockley of Radcar favours tax breaks another Fina girl cabinet ministers advocate absolving builders of VAT on materials justice minister Simon Harris says he's in favour of providing help to builders to confront viability of building due to rising costs of materials however Fina fall ministers and the Department of Finance led by Fina fall minister Michael McGraw are opposed to tax breaks that holidays or any such measures it's been learned Fina fall ministers due to historic accusations of close relationships with the building sector do not want to support such tax policies but Leo for Adcar of course is the T Shock so it's really up to him isn't it on to the other tabloids here now the Irish Daily Star telling you something you probably already know one in three Irish people are struggling to make ends meet during the ongoing cost of living crisis new research has found it comes as pressure grows on government to extend several temporary cost of living measures put in place last year that are due to expire at the end of February this includes reductions in the excise duty on petrol and VAT that have been in place since last March we kind of forgot about those didn't we a new red CWIN win international survey published today has found that 30% of the Irish population say that they are struggling to make ends meet one in three of us this increases amongst people aged 35 and 54 years with 37% of this cohort struggling some 37% of people from lower economic backgrounds also find it difficult to make ends meet the survey found just a quarter of people described their financial situation as comfortable the minority the annual win world survey on the cost of living crisis garnered the views of 30,000 individuals in 36 countries are you feeling the squeeze now in what area in particular are you finding it more difficult 08 660 25,000 08 660 25,000 or call 07 491 25,000 we have Donna Marie and Emma taking your calls this morning right on to now the son newspaper and some I mean it was an awful tragic situation with the plane crash in Nepal an Irish man was on board that plane an Irish man was among the passengers on board a plane that crashed in Nepal resulting in at least 69 people losing their lives footage of the Asian country's worst crash in almost three decades shows the jet flip on its side near Polkara International Airport before crashing into the ground and I suppose in this day and age as well everything is being recorded between people on the plane recording also you had situations whereby of course there were people on the ground you know you've got video cams on doorbells and all that kind of stuff nothing goes unseen anymore and some shocking imagery of people in their last moments there it was really really sad 72 people were on board the flight at the time including three children the Department of Foreign Affairs said it is aware of reports that an Irish man was among the people on the plane however there has been no update on whether he is among the people who lost their lives but everyone who was on that plane at this point now is expected to have is expected to have lost their lives and apparently the pilots went to great efforts because that is an airport that's in a relatively populated area went to great efforts to land the plane as much as he or she could I'm not sure if they're gender in a in a piece of land that wasn't populated and finally it's a small piece here but we might dig into the statistics a little bit more 1% of the Ireland's population owns 1% of Irish population of a mass 21 trillion of new wealth in the past two years that's the world sorry Oxfam found extreme wealth and extreme poverty have increased simultaneously for the first time in 25 years there are Irish statistics which I'll get to I'll find them for you it's like I don't really understand you know different social systems or tax systems or what have you but there is a very small amount of people that have more money than a large swath of people with less money I'm not saying you go and take their money and you give it to other people because people worked very hard to earn that money but you certainly tax them at least equivalent to what you tax poor people and distribute the wealth that way in terms of spending on education health you know the guarantee all the the usual stuff but I'll get the statistics as it relates to as it relates specifically to Ireland it's in one of the newspapers The Times I thought I had it there but I didn't so leave that with me but it's just shocking that so few people are so so wealthy in this country whilst others struggle all right so it is time for us to take a break we will be right back the 9 till noon show with lettercanny credit union simplify your debts with a debt consolidation loan from lettercanny credit union call us 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clinic letter kenny and bunkranna watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highland radio dot com okay we welcome on to the program now retired vet jared rorty good morning jared good morning greg how are you good good thanks for joining us how are you keeping very well thank you we're feeding chattel here no one through morning i was going to say do you ever really retire as a vet you don't you don't no i don't obviously go to look after your own animals indeed and so the phone goes now and again too right jared you're concerned about a shortage of vets in arland in donnie gall or or where well we're concerned about the shorties of practicing cattle vets or people who are interested in working as cattle vets on the island of arland generally but donnie gall invariably is the canary in the war in the main because it's 600 points to get into most vet schools and that's an awful challenge and we don't have access to the the grind schools and the institute of education so on that other kids have closer to dublin so we noticed the problem get progressively worse over the last 20 years the graduates from dublin don't particularly want to work in cattle practice but in addition to that dublin can't simply produce enough vets so i've been part of a lobby group that has been lovely in the government for the last 10 years saying we need a new vet school in the island of arland so that's a really good news story but from a procurement point of view it's the national children's hospital all over again it's not going well then i take it it's going fantastic and so far as we have a commitment from the minister for higher education or a commitment from the government to go ahead and do that school i'm absolutely overjoyed with that what's not going well is the procurement and the design and as i mentioned the children's hospital this has been done in the hoof and we are saying particularly for donnie gall there's very specific criteria that we need uh government has practically higher education authority has missed that criteria that's the ability to register so that our vets can go in and practice in northern arland and vice versa and then there's a brexit problem and i can see what has happened them a lot of this work was started 10 years ago before brexit and brexit has caught in short sighted and we're saying you've got to realize and recognize now that this is a school that has to be designed with the challenges of brexit in mind all right so for those of us not in the know talk to me where the problems are then do we have a location for it and how could i know in terms in terms of location there are three beds for the tender uh atu which i think is a fantastic bed now it should emphasize i have no part of the atu bed but l y atl be part of it and that's a really exciting bed and i wish them well there are three beds um the veterinary there's a group of practitioners i'm involved with we're neutral in terms of the successful bed what we're saying is let's design the procurement procedure properly so that the best horse will jump the fence it will go to the best location but what we have reservations about is how the procurement design has been done with particular reservations that any corrections are proposed to be done on the hoof and that's what ran us into the billion pound problem in the children's hospital so i had an opportunity to be on a zoom call with some of the other vets involved in this with some of the special advisors for the government and the hta last monday and we pointed out we said look there's a particular problem here post-Brexit our vets aren't automatically going on to the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons Registrar so from donei go all the whole way around to Louth it's a real must that the vets employed there are going to be able to slip across the border and do calls and castle there go into Straban or Derry or or you know similarly the whole way around the border if you're sitting in Louth you can nip into fork hell or whatever and it was something i don't think they actually realized because the British government is taking quite a hard line in terms of mutual recognition qualifications my other profession for example in dentistry they have ceased to recognize a lot of the dental qualifications that were registrable coming in from europe and those dentists now are waiting on an exam that's going to be set every two years so we started to ask questions then we were a little bit surprised i hadn't thought that so we said like who's on this panel that designed it and they said there's 19 people we said that's fantastic and then we said like how many vets are those 19 and we were told there's one and it was a long pause and then i asked that the hard question i said how many of those 19 vets have practiced in the last 30 years and private practice will go as none there's it's a very very eminent civil service took a straight back and said well hold on the normal criteria when you're designing a new faculty medicine as you do what was done in england in nottingham or you do it was done in harbour adams or in keel and you gather together an international panel of experts so you're aiming to be as good for the sake of argument to ucd vet school yeah so you say we want to get a picture with accreditation to the royal college so the kids can move back to the north but in addition we want a world-class institute so let's design it and let's build it well the the objectives that we'll get accreditation from austral asia and america and europe and the way you do that is you invite somebody an international panel of experts on those boards so i put that point to the special advisor she got it she agreed with it and she said well yeah but she says we don't have time and i my response back was look we've waited 123 years since we built the last set school in ball's ridge in 1900 i hear what you're saying it's going to delay the project a month but what's going to happen is midway through the project whoever gets it is going to go back to the government and say look this is a must we need to take it to the standard we've got to redesign the course redesign the campus really fine the buildings and at that stage as it mentioned children's hospital the grant is the contract has already been awarded so you're going to go back to step one so we just don't get it in terms of what is happening in procurement we just can't understand how you can have 19 people we have more dentists and doctors on the on the evaluation panel for a new vet school that we have that's well let me ask you this were you able to ascertain how that panel is established you know what i mean if you're dealing specifically with if you're dealing specifically with the establishment of a vet training facility did did you inquire as to how this panel was assessed for its suitability for this type of project we did we did i asked that very specific question and the response was that the same panel they have a panel of of really esteemed people upon medical background looking at the expansion of medical places and dental places and from what i can see the the add it on once it's just double jumped on that panel right okay yeah which is and listen i am in no way casting aspersions i mean the the academic qualifications and the pedigree of those 19 people are second to none but they are not people who know an awful lot about designing new vet schools they're not people that know an awful lot about vet my academia i mean the first question though the really obvious question i didn't answer ask it for example was that probably one of the most esteemed people in veterinary education worldwide is professor michael daherty practicing and he's shown he's a dairy man he's dealing with the ucd vet school you know and i was just expecting a straight away to come back and say someone like professor michael daherty is heading up the panel and then when we realized got with nobody from all college vet surgeons we just said well hold on you know we talk an awful lot about shared island we talk an awful lot about trying to to ensure that we have a greater movement of kids between the various third level institutions and i'm delighted to say that migie graduate medical school is reserving 20 percent of their places for students from the south and veterinary is unusual because we're one epidemiological unit her aspect of of political divisions disease moves as we know in foot and mouth throughout the 32 counties so it's always been very important to be conscious of that in terms of delivering vet new services and the history and nature of the vet school has always been that way i mean the vet school i went to was the same vet school set up in 1900 and that's that school always educated kids from 30 counties and to this day was there's places and now you're going to be saying to kids from north and i will come down and go to a vet school but yeah we don't think you get accreditation okay well you may not be able to get accreditation yeah you're very clearly i think outlined the the very few people would struggle to argue against the very strong argument as it relates to the procurement of of of this what when you've raised this issues with them when you highlighted the fact that you know there is a clear gap there in people with with knowledge in this specific area and you've made the strong arguments the cross border element of it and all the rest is it being reviewed or were you told well this is just the way it is we were told unfortunately this is the way it is so today throughout the 32 counties of ireland you're going to have a practice in vet or something like me retired vet going on to every radio show because as practitioners we're based throughout the 32 counties and we're going on to local media and local radio stations to say look it it's fantastic that we're finally getting a vet school because the other big part of the argument that we've been making Greg and i'm delighted to hear that they're listening to us is this this idea that we're taking in kids with 600 points and all a ones to vet schools is not working you know we're we're just making the point that it's very clear that those sort of kids do not stay in practice you don't need 600 points to go in Cavacau and go to her clan and marry glenn flin glenn soli i mean that bar is so high they really really really want to be a vet because there's so well so what tends to happen is that kids the kids who get that are kids who either go to green schools in bruce college in lemurik or the institute or you know or we have fantastic schools in dunigall but an awful lot of them are not just geared up they're geared to educate everybody they're not geared up like the grain schools are geared up to deliver the 600 points so we end up getting a bias a geographical bias particularly towards south county Dublin of people who get very very high points and we do not get and this is something i've talked to tim cullinan a bit at length i wish farmers association president in fact i talked to tim again on thursday of this procurement problem we are not getting the students into the vet school in ucd at the moment who particularly want to practice as cattle vets we're getting the kids who want to do ponies and puppies and that's fantastic that's brilliant that's needed too but there's a real shortage of kids that want to actually go and work as cattle vets so the new school one of the criteria for the new school or one of the objectives is that they will be biased towards taking in children that will probably all get bees in their leaving search or the equivalent of roughly 500 points but will have shown a particular background or interest they may have gone to in agriculture they might have gone to agriculture but once all of these students have qualified does that mean there's then a hierarchy within veterinary practice in other words a certain level of of of uh whereby you have some that would do the cattle carving etc and then the others that have a nice posh place in dublin four and look after puppies and stuff will there be a higher rock far no far from it because when we randomly go learnable hospital our vets were all geared and equipped to treat horses and treat cats and dogs and to treat absolutely every animal so in the same way within the medical profession the doctor is a doctor and is trained and equipped and in various areas but what the real challenge at the moment is that yet the vet school can train people that are equipped and competent and have the ability to work with farm animals and to work with small animals the difficulty that we've had is in the vet school in UCD for the last 20 years the predominant interest has been in kids who want to practice in small animals now they come out fantastically competent and very well trained and capable of doing cattle work there's no interest yeah but but but I just don't see the connection and how do you how do you incentivize or how do you you change your entrance criteria we and we have an agreement from higher education authority you change your entrance criteria but I don't understand that even if you say I don't understand Jared say for instance you happen to get a hundred less points and and you are enrolled in this course what then would make you more inclined to work in the area of veterinary practice that we're talking of here working with farm animals for example rather than once you're qualified saying actually yeah I probably didn't yeah I probably didn't explain the change in an entrance criteria adequately not only are you going to go over a hundred less points but you're also going to have to have displayed some sort of a background that indicates that you have an interest in agriculture it doesn't guarantee anything you just hope that that leads to more people it doesn't but it's been shown in nottingham vet school for example to work I'll give you the advice harper adamant harper adamants and nottingham vet various vet schools in england have gone on this road what they have done is they have taken the top five graduate out of various agricultural colleges so it's not even as if somebody can say right this now is a loophole to get in the vet school I go off to balahaze or gurchina whatever doing agricultural course you're going to do the top five and what you're going to do is you're going to see people who have displayed from day get go a bias or an interest towards agriculture now the on you know what the elephant in the room and what we can discuss is that in every other jurisdiction you can have an interview we can't have an interview because just we have such a tradition and a history of nepotism but come back to me earlier point if from get go at the start we don't have the you know the criteria set up if we don't have the procurement set up properly it doesn't matter where the vet school goes it doesn't matter where the aspirations are we wind up with the vet school that from an accreditation point of view and a standard point of view we'll need a serious amount of money spent mid design and as I mentioned the children's hospital you go and you have to change your contract so Jared if all goes well right okay when do you start seeing an increase in output here in terms of new vets that would be available to address the clear shortages we have say for instance here in Donegal like the do you think it's a situation where the problems might get worse before they get better are we likely to see further retirements or people moving into different areas of veterinary practice before we start seeing a conveyor belt of people coming through like what what do you optimistically see as a we're hoping that this school we're hoping this school will open 24 the first grads will come out 29 so you're looking at five five six years down the line and as I said our proposal to put together we have lots that it will take the higher education authority roughly three weeks to put together a panel who who let's shoot assess the spids and redesign the criteria so we can't see that's not good event any impact on the delay one way or the other but we're just saying like the spend of a hundred million and in terms of the history of the state this is the most expensive the most expensive investment the state has ever gone into because it's incredibly expensive to educate vets and yet it's somewhat under the radar isn't it if the truth be told until very much yeah it's well it is but it's not the farmers because listen us farmers are very very aware you know that we are seeing what we have seen is lack of vets coming into practice who have an interest in cattle work or an interest in farm animals and we're also very aware of the how short a period of time those people stay I mean the classic example is in Donegal you've only to talk to any farmer Donegal and they'll tell you vet comes vet goes because they realize after a very short period of time they're not particularly interested in working with cattle or working with sheep and and again on this I got a geographical bias in terms I want to see more kids on that from Donegal getting into the vet schools I mean if you were to count I could just count on the hands that one hand how many people in the last 20 years have gone into the UCD vet school and then with the ridiculous situation that people happen to spend probably 40 50 grand to head off to Eastern Europe to get into vet school so I didn't mention that I mean at the moment part of the not the solution part of the way that people can get into vet school is head off to Cracow or Budapest or Warsaw or wherever and that is fine but you know it's it's ridiculous the amount of money is involved in heading off there and clearly not for everyone right okay well and just very finally is this in it does this process fall under the control of Charlie McConnell's department because there's an agricultural element no no in fair or listen if it fell under the problem of Charlie McConnell's department it would have been sorted because Charlie is such an incredible grasp of agriculture and farming matters you know unfortunately it doesn't it falls under a Wictoman Simon Harris I mean next for another day's discussion what we should have is you know an apartment farm and had Charlie McConnell delivered probably the best scheme the organic agro-holster scheme for Donegal that has boosted Donegal farmers by any minister for agriculture but is there an argument then is there an argument then for sort of something like this for the for the likes of the Department of Agriculture in the Department of Higher Education to work in tandem but we don't really think like that in this country in any case they do we don't not only doing not only do we not think like that but unfortunately as you know government departments in particular not the ministers but the departments of civil sirens are very territorial of course and we yeah this is my baby I know we're very here yeah we are very here they should clearly been told this is higher education Simon Harris he makes the decisions all right listen Jared thanks for for the insight I'll let you get back appreciate your time all right thank you again right oh wait six sixty twenty five thousand is the what's up in text line if you want in on that conversation cutting through the spin the 9 till noon show on Highland radio the 9 till noon show with letter Kenny credit union do you need to switch your current account or loan we are now offering my cu current account and debit mastercard bringing full banking features and competitive rate switcher loans Sheridan security now introducing zero wire smart alarm systems zero wire zero mess and a real peace of mind with a simple press of a button your alarm can be set or on set or download the free app and control it from your phone call us today on zero 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when you're pressed for if you're about to use an electrical appliance like your washing machine which uses a lot of energy all right okay uh we'll be yeah we are joined now on the program by um two gentlemen from a arlin blake boland and paddy uh common Blake i'll say good morning to you first how are you keeping hello hey guys is that the two he is on the one on the one call okay very good nice to have you on with us now we just got a jblake just arrived so i'm party that's Blake it's okay good to have you with us right okay so you have is this the first time anyone has driven from mittenhead to malinhead in an ev on a single charge we believe so yeah we we have asked whether anyone else has done it we've asked some of the various ev groups we haven't heard back yet but we don't think so because basically there hasn't been the car that would do it we are sitting in this car now it's the mercedes-benz eqs it is very very expensive mind you but it is uh showing that the technology is there to do it so we so we set out last wednesday and we drove down to mittenhead now we did that direction because the wind was it was a pretty stormy day so we wanted the wind behind us and uh we drove the close to 600 kilometers in about nine hours or so uh pretty much crawling over the line and and uh in malinhead but uh but you know we did manage it and it is an indication that technology is moving on however there is a bit of an issue with charging points because once we got to malin we were pretty much stuck we had to put the a three pin plug out the door of the malinhead view b and b and to try and get us a little bit of charge so you got all the way from cork to donnie gall the tip of donnie gall and then you had to get the granny charger out yeah we got the granny cable out the door of the b and b and i don't know why it's called that by the way i hope it's not offensive to grannies i don't believe it is but anyway it's a three pin plug yeah it's the it's a slightly it's a slightly offensive phrase that people use for the three pin plug um but uh look it was it was great to do it but it and it's great to see the technology coming on but it was really an indication of um of you know for certainly for for donnie gall in particular charging points are really really hard to find uh you know and it is a bit of an issue as the technology moves on and a sales increase we're now 81% more than we were last year so there really needs to be improved and especially for you guys up in donnie gall yeah Blake what is the advertised range of the Mercedes yeah it's up past 700 kilometers in the WLTP range figure however they can be a little bit optimistic sometimes they're always better off shaving a little bit off that so we we reckon that this Mercedes is a 600 kilometer kind of real world range car right did you have the air con on the way all the way up we did a little bit yeah it's a very very high tech car that we're in for the price you'd expect it as well but it has a mode called eco plus so the car is a heat pump as opposed to the usual heaters that we'd have in our car so a lot more efficient but what it does is it scavenges heat from the motor the electronics and the battery the car puts that into the cabin and kept us at a temperature i was happy enough in my hoodie that the whole time and that was that was plenty for me yeah okay but i mean of course this was a test this was to see just how far you could go so i mean there's obviously going to be a bit of range anxiety built into that because if you were stopped on the ended up running out of juice and the dual carriage way out of sli go it wouldn't be very exciting we wouldn't be having this conversation that's very true but look at you know fine we we we had a little bit of extra confidence behind us because we do work for the a a so it was just a case of bringing one of the guys and get a little bit of assistance if we needed it for them to drive out in for them to drive out in their diesel van and and hook you up to a petrol generator but anyway listen i'm not anti-ev by the way that's just that just is an irony there um in terms of um the cost do we know how much it cost on power not that but this is kind of a factor i suppose as people when people are considering you know uh electric as an option though i we have this thing built into us that if we do anything green it has to be cheaper for us and i think those days are are coming to an end in terms of a lot of things including uh ev driving so i think that what we save was supposed to really be motivated by what we save in terms of the planet rather than our pockets but anyway as it stands right now how much do you think this journey would have cost in electric versus um petrol or diesel i wonder yeah well unfortunately the answer to your question is how long is the piece of string because you know when we're used to petrol and diesel rates we have a national average or we know we're going to go down the road and it's going to be somewhere between 160 and 165 give or take but you know there's situations where people could be charging them for free because they've got solar panels on the roof but if you're a clever you've got a night rate meter we could have done that trip for in and around 15 euros however if you charged exclusively on the high power esp chargers you could be paying up toward 60 70 euros something like that so there's a big variance but you know for the ease of answering you you could say something like 25 30 euros just having paid you know standard home electricity right and then obviously with a petrol or diesel car that would have been you know 60 70 80 euro depending on how you drove a full tank of diesel for most people now you know is is close close to 100 euros so um so that puts it in perspective obviously a diesel car would have done it with ease and and you know we we appreciate that but the emissions would have been very different yeah and i think too uh i mean obviously user in a state of the art uh vehicle there even with your i think you know the 2023 you know average electric car you probably would have done the same journey with with one or two charges certainly two charges you'd have hoped to wouldn't you yeah that's a it's a good point i actually did the same trip myself in a Tesla model why about six months ago and i did the whole trip with a 15 minute stop just outside go away and that's a car now that you can get into for about 46 000 euros which is not not extreme you know not far off the average in the country yeah but the big problem is and we've heard this from people in the industry as well so it's not naysayers or you know what have you is the the charging infrastructure the one million electric cars they've thrown that target out the window i think industry expects it will be lucky if we get to 500 000 at this point but even if we do and even if a lot of those are full electric we really need to sort out the infrastructure here don't we especially even for the tourism market because you know like a lot of people look at google reviews now and what have you say you guys work up a tourist from germany and you happen to arrive at beautiful malinhead with the expectation that clearly they're going to have significant charging infrastructure here because it's so popular and then you have to sort of beg borrow and steal to get your plug into through someone's front door do you know what i mean like it's the infrastructure here is a real problem i think as you've have highlighted yourselves you're right Greg and you know what really struck us as we you know we went back the next morning to to malinhead to take some photographs and there's a there's a nice toilet area there's some handicapped spots there's but there's no charging points and you think right this is an absolute opportunity and as well as that for some of the businesses as well there are big grants for putting wall boxes in and it seems like a missed opportunity for cafes and restaurants and like not to put those in because you've a captive audience for 40 minutes or so and they'll they'll have their lunch and they'll drink their coffee as they charge the car up so so look yeah more needs to be done for sure i wonder has anyone done an analysis of what we would actually need you know what i mean like there's been numerous announcements over the last couple of years because we would cover them on this a vsb investment of that investment but really in my route i travel about 50 kilometers to work daily i don't really and i'll keep an eye out for things like this i don't see the addition of any additional charging points on my route there is one extra fast charger there's a couple on the side of the street that you often see petrol diesel cars sitting in you know i'm just thinking if lots of us had electric cars how many would we actually need i mean has anyone done any evaluation of that because this is a little bit like the meetings that they have annually to talk about the climate we seem to be talking an awful lot about it we seem to know where we need to be what the solutions are but when you get down to it how much is actually really happening and for me uh blake it feels not enough or very little yeah you're absolutely right and we remember seeing um some some words coming from esp a few months ago saying that they feel that it was adequate at the time and we know for a fact it's not because you know i my own personal car is an ev i've been driving it for five years now and i see queues sometimes when i turn up uh now frequently you know let's say for me personally three quarters of the time they're free you just plug straight in and you go but there's that chance that you can plug in at eight or you know you go to charge at eight o'clock in the morning on your way to work it's two cars ahead of you and now it's oh what am i supposed to do so we need more but also the crucial thing greg is that we need them in the right places the right chargers at the right places so if you've got one charger in car and donna and one in malin and so on and so forth it's just not enough to rely on so what we're better off with is is these hubs so you know if you turn up there's eight or ten chargers there and even if they are all full ask somebody to be gone in a couple of minutes it's fine so it's a balance of both and we definitely lead a lot more we need investment in it and that needs to be led by the government as well yeah for sure and patty particularly given the fact that this is an area that there are an awful lot of detractors and i'm not saying they're right or wrong but you know yourself people will talk about well how do we mine the sources for electric batteries what do we do once they're finished and what about the expense and you know you know there's an awful lot of counter arguments to this if you want people to go actually that's a viable option for me and to sort of strengthen your argument in favour of them you do need to get simple things like infrastructure correct or else you're you're you're you're fighting a losing battle correct and what we've noticed from the surveys we would do to our customers members is that the primary reason people go for an EV is is the potential cost savings you know we'd love love to think that it's for environmental reasons but it's simply not so if people do start seeing the costs and we are seeing the change that and look electric electricity is is increasing a lot but there is quite a difference to be made now not on the initial purchase price but on the running cost so i think once people start to see that and as we you know we look into the potential of diesel costs increasing in the next while as well we might see people moving over for for for various reasons cost being the one the primary one but environmental being a happy byproduct yeah but we also have to accept that if the government makes an awful lot of money in terms of tax and what have you from petrol and diesel vehicles and if there's less tax to take from that they are going to have to sort of keep that the are going to have to keep that that revenue stream coming right okay um a lot of people wonder when do you guys think electric cars will become affordable to the average person but i'm seeing electric cars advertised now you know they're not the main models necessarily in and around you know 28 29 30 grand which is the equivalent to sort of a budget crossover type vehicle i mean are we at the point yet whereby people can make a a choice if they if they're taking out a loan or whatever the way they're doing it and there are EV options for their you know petrol or diesel first choice maybe oh yeah the prices um are there we're not a parity yet but it's getting a lot closer so to you i think you touched on it there already you can get into the mg4 now for 29 000 euros and that's a solid 300 kilometer car with space inside similar to a gulf not a hundred time of seven and a half seconds with plenty of great tech inside the car will steer and power itself on the motorway with adaptive cruise control and then only there a few days ago tesla announced massive price decreases so you can get into a model three now for about 44 000 euros so the prices are coming down we're not a party yet um and then the other thing that you look at is if you want to go in and order something like the 94 some of the oudies there's waiting lists that are approaching years time so if you consider why would a manufacturer lower the price down if they've got waiting lists for a product for up to a year um and we could see the fact like here's what that being said though and i'm not being i'm not sort of being argumentative but tesla's just dropped a significant lump off their cars into the irish market you know so i suppose maybe the the global you know there's a global element to this rather than just but i i take your point and finally how much does that cost it how much is that car worth i mean obviously well a few strings at mersade is here i think the car that we are sitting in with options mind you is 168 000 euros so not affordable by any means but it's a nice three-bed but that's a nice three-bedroom bungalow for you indonic all by the way now not great for the commute to work i think i would rather that but um i suppose what happens with these things is the technology does trickle down so whilst this is is you know not affordable for the majority of people the technology does start to trickle down and then over the years you'll see it coming into more affordable cars right gentlemen uh so really you see the first until such time as someone else tells you they were the first uh to drive on a single charge in an ev from mizzenhead to to malinhead is that really the safe space we'll leave that in yeah yeah and and you know people want to to look at our youtube channel there is evidence of such so uh so unless someone comes back with there with the contrary evidence then we can claim that we've we've done it all right listen thanks very much indeed safe journey home we appreciate it thanks for your time that's uh blake boland paddy commons had the communications with the a some of you listening aren't massive fans of the electric car situation actually do you know what would be interesting because there's an awful lot out there as it relates about mining the batteries what do you do with the batteries and the future what's the implications in terms of the production of electric cars on the environment versus uh versus and and how the materials are sourced we might actually get an expert on to discuss that because i'll read these comments out i'm not 100% sure if they're true or not i know there are sort of people who are maybe anti this agenda that that that push this stuff or maybe they are do care about uh kids mining materials in in some other countries i really don't know uh but i 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hot press and the bai sound and vision fun live on air online and on the highland radio app this is highland radio news good morning i'm akila clark with the news at 10 o'clock snow is causing much much disruption on donny goll roads today drivers are being urged to exercise caution particularly on untreated roads a yellow ice warning remains in place for the country with temperatures below freezing in many parts of donny goll a similar warning is in place in darry true and and for mana he'll sleep at snow and freezing fog is expected over the coming days also public expenditure minister pascal donahue says he deeply regrets the situation over undeclared costs in 2016 acknowledging that an additional span of 1057 euro should have been included on his statement for the general election campaign that year it comes after a complaint against him was made to sipo alleging he failed to properly declare work around the erection and removal of posters shin fain td louise riley says minister pascal donahue needs to go into more detail of the work not declared he hasn't done is he hasn't provided information about the six people so he says that there were six people over four nights using a company van for some of that period and potentially using their own vehicles for for some of it as well but he doesn't say how they were paid who had paid them what was the value of the service that they had provided the garden commissioner is said to be questioned today on new policing system due to be ruled out in the northwest the new model will mean the dunigold garden division will be combined with sligo and leitrim with one superintendent looking after the entire region tree harris will appear at today's meeting of the dunigold joint policing committee its chair concert jerry mcmonagall says allocation of garden to the county will be high on the agenda today also there was an allocation of garden there over this last number of days i have to say i'm disappointed that the small number that's been allocated to the northwest we don't know how many of them were allocated to dunigold so the meeting will give us an opportunity to ask that policing model is based on 200 recruits coming out of ten or more every 11 weeks to bring the the garden numbers up to around 15 000 so we'll be asking them targets being hit a retired vat says the development of a new school of veterinary medicine in arland is vital but progress is slow jared rorty says there's a shortage of vats particularly in terms of vats to look after cattle and that's a shortage that is being felt particularly acutely in dunigold he says there are questions to be asked about how the design and procurement of the new school is being coordinated mr rorty is also concerned that in light of brexit there may be issues with joint recognition he says a key issue is there is an expert evaluation committee overseeing the process but there's very little veterinary expertise on it we have more dentists and doctors on the on the evaluation panel for a new vet school that we have the academic qualifications and the pedigree of those 19 people are second to none but they are not people who know an awful lot about designing new vet schools they're not people that know an awful lot about veterinary academia just over a third of irish alec tristie was generated by wind last year in total 34 percent of power came from wind farms up four points on 2021 according to an analysis from energy consultants barringer it resulted in irish consumers not having to pay two billion euro for gas last year the xchecker also saved three hundred and forty million euro which would have been spent on carbon credits for the gas ceo of wind energy arlyn no conif said significant progress has been made but there's still a long way to go in order to reach 20 30 targets last year wind energy provided just over a third of our electricity mix which across the island is enough energy to power nearly three million homes so we're definitely going in the right direction and as you mentioned it's avoiding a very significant cost in terms of the amount of gas that would be required to replace that wind energy where we're at today then is we're at about a third of our electricity coming from wind energy and by 2030 we need to increase this up to 80 percent whether i call this morning with a frost and icy stretches today we'll bring sunny spells and scattered showers some wind tree with highest temperatures of just two or three degrees that's all from highland radio news for now we'll be back with an update again at 11 o'clock until then good morning the obituary notices for this monday morning the 16th of january the death has taken place of susan gibbons dergrohe claughan her remains will arrive at the church of relative perpetual sucker glen fain at five o'clock this evening for reception prayers reposing in the oratory of the church with rosary at seven family and friends welcome requiem mass at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning within term and afterwards in kilty vogue cemetery donations in lieu of flowers if desired to the patient's comfort fund sin joseph's community hospital strewn order care of patrick gibbons the death has taken place of joshua montgomery stony ballynally moville removal today at three o'clock from liam collins funeral premises kuldaf going to his home funeral arrangements will be confirmed later family fires only pleased donations if desired to ash ward bunkrana nursing unit patients comfort fund family time please from 11 p.m to 11 a.m and on the morning of the funeral the death has occurred of colette pattern nail log 42 parkside gardens sign mills colette's remains are reposing at the family home funeral from there tomorrow morning at half past nine for requiem mass at 10 o'clock in centris's church sign mills followed by interment in the adjoining church yard the mass can be viewed via the parish webcam family time please from 11 p.m to 11 a.m the death has taken place of selene clark the bungalow three trees quickly's point selene's remains are reposing at her home funeral from there tomorrow afternoon at half past one for two o'clock requiem mass in secret heart church muff followed by burial in the adjoining graveyard selene's funeral mass can be viewed live at ischkeheen parish dot com or on mcn media the death has occurred of charlie mohan drum baron frosts his remains will repose at his home from 12 noon to 9 p.m today and tomorrow removal from there on wednesday for funeral mass at 12 noon in the church of the blessed virgin mary frosts with interment in the adjoining cemetery house private please on the morning of the funeral family flowers only please donations in louis desired to the bluestack foundation care of any family member or john mcgowan funeral directors charlie's funeral mass can be viewed online at mcn media the death has taken place of ellie no donnell cornegilla convoy her remains are reposing at her niece catherine ryan's home in knock balaba fe house private please with family and friends welcome funeral from there tomorrow morning at quarter past 11 for requiem mass at 12 noon in st mary's church convoy followed by burial in the family plot in the old graveyard family flowers only please donations in louis desired to the patient's comfort fund brentwood manor nursing home care of any family member or tern smith lintuck funeral director the death house taken place of john martin kelly balibrak movill wake strictly private please at the request of the deceased funeral mass tomorrow morning at 11 in st mary's church balibrak followed by private cremation at lakeland's crematorium cavern the death house taken place of mary jane or cairn lore remelton funeral service this afternoon at two o'clock in st cullum kills church glenalla followed by interment in bank cemetery remelton the death has occurred of margaret migrory charlie gore linsford boncrona funeral from her residence this morning at half 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groundbreaking to us opposed to some extent breaking of the irish community air ambulance okay so what is the cameo where is it i just just before we start i'm not one of the consultants i actually work fundraising so i'm organizing the event and i am asked the consultants so there are dr lisa conningham and dr jason whore and they're the ones going to be the heavy lifting you're doing the talking i'm doing the organizing and we also have consultants in dunigol who's really in favour of this trip as well so the cameo is an age old pilgrimage walk and it goes from the east of spain to the west finishing in santiago the campastella so it's about 800 kilometers long we're going to take on a section of it so we're going to do the first the traditional start and we're going to start in the south of france in st jane d the port there's going to be two groups a group of cyclists and a group of walkers and the walkers are going to walk for six days solid about between 19 and 26 kilometers a day and the cyclists they're going to take on a longer distance they're going to walk the guts of 400 or they're going to cycle the guts 400 kilometers so they're going to finish further along on the way and they'll go home from madrid and we shall finish up in the brandio yeah and this is uh this is a journey a lot of people take annually by choice you know to mean like whilst it might sound like this isn't the endurance you're inviting people to do there's an awful lot of people that do this annually it's incredibly incredibly popular you're inviting people to do it with a view to raising funds yeah so what we do is we make it very easy for people to take on the communal and it can be daunting for some people or maybe they're traveling on their own first time doing something like this so we organize the whole trip we organize the flights the transfers the accommodation and their meals even and we make that side of it easy and in return we ask that you raise two and a half thousand euro for our services now those services as we said in the press release are to raise money to help us expand our ground services and we're currently in air ambulance charity but we'd like to do more with the voluntary doctors that we have on the ground and what they do for communities around Ireland yes and we've spoken about this before some of the moments are operating in vehicles really that need to be replaced and what have you these are an arm of the emergency services these in some cases are our first responders a little bit different to that what they are is they're generally consultants in emergency medicine and what they do is they volunteer for us in our charity so when a call comes in a 999 call comes in to the national ambulance service they recognize that there's an asset locally so maybe in Dunigold they'll say there's a volunteer doctor there like the Wood and Mayo there's two doctors here so what we do is we fund the car for them and you're right some of them do need to be upgraded and we've great plans for that now in March and but the car is also full of high level hospital grade equipment that you know paramedics wouldn't wouldn't use because as I said they're mainly consultants so the course of the ventilators high-grade ADs they can actually because they're so skilled they can bring the emergency room to the roadside farm the workplace and they can out even an eighth size patients and we've had some great success stories coming back from them recently and I know one doctor attended an out of hospital cardiac arrest there was a local volunteer responder they're giving compressions but he with his equipment and skills was able to shock using a different machine travel with the patient to hospital and there was a pre-hospital anesthetic and he was able to report that patient left hospital a couple of days later in full health so it was a great Christmas present it was a Christmas call and it was because of early interventions from a qualified highly qualified doctor yeah and when you're raising money that's what it is it's to make sure we can give these doctors everything they need to respond and in terms of the turnaround here the cameo takes place towards the end of April the 25th so it's it's not an awful it's not by the way it's gerrylain that works with use here in donningall isn't it dr lane okay now because because there's some of the stuff he told me and i put it to you and you said it was slightly different so i was getting a wee bit confused there right so it is dr gerrylain and we're in the right service here okay that's fine um so yeah this is April 23rd to April 30th so this is not too far into the future no it's not it's not too far ahead but there is time to both start training and fundraising so what we do is because we have a fundraising team here we want to make this as successful as possible for participants so i'll be on hand to give you advice on how to get your fundraising links you know started i'll actually set up a fundraising event online and you can just join and share a fundraiser that way and a lot of people like to organize events and raise as much money as they can and wouldn't go so i'll be able to help and advise with that and the other side is if you're walking i would and you want to take the sun i'd start doing and getting that walk a couple of times a week and in particular that you would go for a long walk so maybe on a sunday start a two-hour walk and over the next couple of weeks move it up to a three a four or five hour make sure you've all the right gear as well and this is an important element and i sort of said tongue in cheek early you're on about you doing the talk and it's far more than that you're making this you're the admin side of things you are doing that for people so in other words they can just focus on the training and using the tools you're equipping them with the fundraising you and your team are going to organize that element of things for people yeah i've done the communal a number of times so i'm pretty familiar with it so even when people are nervous or have concerns if they give me a call i can talk to them about it and hopefully um leave it any fears or anxieties they have on the trip um yeah making it easy and making the trip successful for themselves and ourselves is the key in this and then we had a fantastic trip last year we raised over a hundred thousand euro because of the power of the group and and we had a brilliant time on the Camino do you know both cyclists and walkers and i imagine friendships and memories for life are made uh in this whole process as well so you're calling for people they can either cycle or walk is that correct yeah the only one thing if you're going to cycle make sure that you you know have a bike and you are doing some sort of cycling at the minute there is time to up your training but if you're brand new to cycling i would really look at am i able to cycle 60 or 70 kilometers every day for six days and people know that themselves i i'm sure though but it's just important that people don't think this is a leisurely 5k a day uh situation this is a challenge and it's a wonderful challenge and i suppose the rewards along the way you know like they're massive as you said the friendships that are forged the sights the sounds the different cultures like we start in france we go over the peronese you know we finish up in northern spain the lovely city we pass through pamplona the bull run city like so there's lovely experiences each day and each day brings something different on the trip but i would say is if you're considering doing this getting touched today because you know you want to make your mind up on it and get going and we do as well you know we're booking flights and we're getting the accommodation sorted and so the sooner you can come on board the better like i'd say it gives you a good three months then to prep before before uh events right so how do people uh get more information or contact you or get all the details you've been outlining uh lorraine yeah well the best thing to do is just go to communityairambulance.ie forward slash commino so it's communityairambulance.ie forward slash commino or you can give a call to zero two one four one nine oh nine nine nine and that's our cork office and there's plenty of people there to talk to you about it but as i said if you go onto the website you can start to fill out the registration form and i'll be in touch yeah and as we heard from from mr lane not so long ago uh he was given examples of the the real lifesaving work that's ongoing is to ensure that that can be done maintained enhanced and that they have good reliable vehicles to get to and throw as well and whilst it's called the Irish community air ambulance and you've been perfectly highlighting this as well a lot of the work is on the ground as well and that's that's uh that's a big part of it we have we have a number of like between Dublin mail and Donegal we have a number of cars on the road they're all responded potentially at the same time you know their ambulance is in one place at one time this is a more localized service and it's something that we have great ambitions to expand this year potentially next year there might be somebody coming on board in Donegal as well and different counties across the country brilliant so it's one of those it's one of those perfect situations you can uh do a bucket list job it's you can say you've done it but also at the same time uh you are raising funds for the community air ambulance Irish community ambulance and as you say over a hundred thousand last year exceeding targets maybe those talks are going to be a bit ambitious more ambitious this year but who's to say it could be bigger and better than ever because i think maybe a lot of people even last year you know maybe were hesitant about other things that were going on in their lives or whatever maybe this year that the interest is it a limited amount of spaces Lorraine or can you can you adapt regardless of yeah we can adapt i wouldn't like to see the group be so large that you don't have that nice group experience and but i'd be confident that we'll have between 20 and 25 in each group that's what we're aiming to get and presumably if you well exceeded the two and a half thousand as well last year that's what happens i think the more people engage with us in the lead up to the trip and they hear what we do they get they've come more passionate about fundraising like for example like we had two of our doctors um attended the major incident in Chrysler in october and i think everyone would clearly say that's an example of where like a consultant in emergency medicine couldn't have been more best place to be bringing the ed to uh being able to effectively bring an ed to the scene of of an awful tragedy like that was really quite remarkable and that experience and organization and the the emergency action plans and everything else that was just kicked in um yeah we two cars there actually so and you know these these are lifesaving moments yet right Lorraine listen thank you just remind us of the contact details once again for anyone i'm sure people out there their interests has been piqued uh and they will want your contact details Lorraine what are they again yeah so community air ambulance dot ie forward slash Camino or zero two one four one nine oh nine nine nine zero two one four one nine oh nine nine nine all right i hope you have a a huge response last year hopefully you can see that again this year thanks Lorraine have a lovely day thank you thank you very much bye bye bye bye nice to speak to you Lorraine toner their head of community and donor engagement with the Irish community air ambulance uh right so onto some of your comments here nice and busy for Monday morning by the way really appreciate it 08 660 25 000 WhatsApps and texts if you're from outside the republic 0035 386 60 25 000 uh hi Greg is it just me or is everyone very forgetful in the door but sure we'll all move on uh the great lesson to be learned uh the law is just for us ordinary folk i can understand exactly how you um feel about that and and and it's always two uh and and in fairness i even though i'm part of the system you could say i suppose people will say um the latest exposes if you like as it relates to uh mr donahoe uh and others uh mr trey mr english um these were stories that no one came forward and said oh by the way i forgot something i just thought i'd let you all know it wasn't the the established national newspapers or radio stations for that matter that expose this it was the work of three independent independent journalists outside of the system in inverted commas that um explored these stories and brought them to the fore which i think is a very important part of all of this uh today's blue monday and everyone should make the most of the brightness and beauty of the snow that's falling is blue is it blue monday because this is when people get why is it blue monday again is because this is when people get the credit card bills or something is that why it is let me know it's 60 25 000 i went into a shop to buy a phone they don't take cash are they allowed to for that it's not fair i believe it's probably vodafone that's their policy they don't take cash in their stores are they allowed to do it at the moment i believe so uh there is legislation going through government um that might uh compel shops that don't take cash to take cash does anyone know what the back road to drum keen is like to drive at the moment is that from old town and that are kind of over to drum keen it's one i would avoid i've not heard anything at the moment but uh if given the weather i wouldn't go near it if we're on about the same road uh hi what's the roads like between letter kenny and dairy bag god nct 130 and dairy bag thank you but good luck with that i don't uh haven't we're not getting live updates as such anyone out there want to share what the roads are like in your area we're more than happy to give it away um there's a donkey wandering the roads in kerks town it's not only been hit by a few cars please be careful if it's your donkey get it off the road um and um more and more coming in lots of you texting in about the electric car the two guys driving from malin to mizzen mizzen to malin a lot of you out there not too impressed uh with the whole ev thing but they're growing in popularity combined electric cars are out selling petrol and diesel and in dunnegol hugely popular here as well but maybe those who are opposed to the switch to the ev are more inclined to text maybe you're driving one maybe you think it's the best thing ever oh wait six 60 25 000 as well just to try and make sure we're getting a bit of balance there watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highland radio dot com the nine till noon show with letter kenny 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i'm on the road from letter kenny to battle buffet but there is a tractor pulling cars out at glenn mcqueen i'd say avoid that back road back roads are going to be pretty dodgy for the next few days because there's going to be very little little rest by the daytime temperatures are really quite low so that's the weather as it relates to the cold what about rain and what about going out shopping in the rain higher rachel hello i don't get paid minimum wage uh because i can't come up with good segways come here you're out shopping and you send a picture and it's a beautiful yeah it's a part of the part of letter kenny that i would frequent quite regularly it's a big string of shops that's the what's that's called the new retail park or what's it called i don't know i don't even know what the name is just ordinary to m&s and then and you've got like augers and boots and all those shops in between yeah big shop and there's a picture right uh from one end to the other and there's one little section of some canopy the rest doesn't and you're saying that it's in a trick here absolutely yeah tell me why well it's just i mean that was last i don't know what date was last when do you think it was and the only thing i bought was an umbrella because it was pissing rain you know between the times and it's just that god you know that i don't have a canopy here like to have a little or alley you know to have it over the trolleys just to kind of a pair of specs thing and so we get more shoppers the shops were very quiet and i thought well if i was a retail owner on one of these shops and it's a long walk and a lot of people and maybe drop by the bus or have to walk from one end to the other and you'd be drowned and it's like it's like it's like walking around the outside of a shopping center really because it's a shopping center style shops that are there yeah i think a lot of people go from one to the other make their way from the bottom up to the top of vice versa and if it's raining are you going to do that i think you're on to something here i think a canopy there might encourage people out to shop and and to stay out shopping or directly i i because i mean it's raining a lot in dunny gollum it's not rocket tanks like just kind of canopy over the over the whole length of it that's it's like it's but do you think the lack of a canopy is enough to make people go shopping elsewhere yeah i do i well i i mean we're lucky we have a car there's a lot of people having good cars but i mean you make some people may choose always go to dairy where you're good before and say that you go to whatever other places i'm not a shopper much anyway but i wouldn't put you off especially now there's internet shop news please buy in amazon they need to taste more customers and then actually go and get soaked and thrown you're going to say i know it's not worth the hassle you wouldn't daisy you wouldn't move your car up and down that car park between shops right after yeah well no i won't i can just see yeah yeah but it but it's it's it's a really simple comment but it makes an awful lot of sense on a wet day i think you'd be far more likely to visit more shops and stay out longer if the journey between them was covered and it's not it's not like we're reinventing the wheel it is done elsewhere it is easily done yeah and you could do that entire strip all right okay listen it's as simple as that you think if people will go or should we go there now might get soaked we'll go somewhere else in the car you believe people will do that or choose to shop online so it's constructive criticism i'd i put this in the constructive criticism bracket rachel yeah absolutely yeah and there is some kind of a don't you go all development plan or whatever for letter candy so people throw that suggestion and make work rachel listen happy shopping stay dry i'll see you all right take care thanks very much indeed that's coming in from rachel do you agree or disagree as i say it's a nice simple one but should make a difference i was at the doctor this morning with a kidney infection and told there are no appointments until next week it's absolutely ridiculous right you rang the doctor or you're at the doctor because i presume with a kidney infection really what you're looking for there is an antibiotic aren't you they'd have to do a p-test first i'd imagine but you could be in a lot of discomfort pain for a week right i would have thought a kidney infection would be one that they'd want to get you in and have a look at i'm sorry i don't know what you can do alternatively i'm not sure cranberry juice is going to cut it for you back on the roads the crossing at bank corner on main street ballot face crazy it's only a matter of time to someone is killed you have a yellow box two main roads and a crossing on one spot this work would not be seen in any other county someone must see the danger here every day is this also the place where you've got the access to a car park as well if it is that part that you're talking of every time i'm at it there's confusion there's confusion every single time of people going well who goes where pedestrians heading out onto the the black and white crossing but you've also got and then drivers pulling out onto the main street that are looking to the right waiting for a gap to pull out if it is the same junction i have the exact same fears that you would have that someone is if they haven't already and we haven't heard about it someone is going to get injured there greg the esp no longer look after the fixing of street lights you have to call 18 53 7 3 7 7 2 to report it but you must have the number on the pole well the advice i've had for as long as i've been doing this show is to take the number of the pole and ring that number and we've had reports of in some cases than being fixed very quickly in others not quite so i applied for the license for a firearm one year and six months ago and i'm still waiting does anyone know why there is such a delay it was a first time application or a renewal i don't know why there is such a delay my esp bill has doubled in price where an ordinary house and used nothing extra has this happened to anyone else i think it's happened to everyone else but please tell me you have switched provider will you because if you haven't you're sitting paying a higher rate for no reason um you can go on websites if you wish or get someone to do it for you uh i'd almost do it for you to be honest with you to save you money uh but maybe you're well able to do it yourself and you will be able to see they tell you what you're expected to pay with your current provider and what you can expect to pay if you were to switch and there are some fixed rate deals out there now so you can switch and have some certainty uh but there's some risk with that in case prices continued to fall but please tell me that you've switched your electricity provider in the last year um right okay uh we 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they'll bring sunny spas and scattered showers some of them wintery highest temperatures of just two or three degrees we'd like to moderate northwest breezes and i think when the weather forecast says some of them will be winter i think you know the spots where we're most likely to see snowfall i can think of you know drumkeen miniroy uh mount top uh barnesmore you know yourself when they talk about snow likely it's those areas we're most likely to see it right uh danielle mckenna is project manager at realto youth project and joins us on the program now good morning to you how are you keeping i'm good thanks how are you good um uh it's good to speak to you now uh we learned uh over at night that Romanian police are expanding their investigation into former kickboxer champion andrew tate seizing a fleet of luxury cars from his bucress compound over the weekend raiding seven more properties including a newly renovated villa uh beneath the carpathian mountains it's part of an investigation uh into him and his activities with some really strong accusations being made uh against him andrew tate i think more people have heard his name over the last week or so than perhaps would have before unless potentially you're a young male and i think most young males on any social media will have been fed andrew tate his way of thinking his misogenic views that's a fair enough way of looking at it danielle do you think yeah absolutely i mean he has been a lot around for quite a while now and we would have been uh before christmas this name would have started coming up within our youth spaces and and young men that we knew and at first we wouldn't even have known who he was so it took us a little bit of time to research to understand who was this guy andrew tate and what was the influence that he was holding over young men and then it became very clear it was very much based around this idea of wealth and um and dominance that he was holding and that if you acted in a certain way around being masculine then you could have this this type of life too yeah and and normally that's at the expense of of women um uh you know i i i think he's claimed himself to me misogynistic he makes no bones about how you treat a woman that they are in some way some subservient to you uh that that and to act like that and to be like that is part of the success that he's trying to sell as a lifestyle yeah and see the thing about about andrew tate and men like andrew tate is that they they use power and dominance as a way to to build their their their not only their ego but also their kind of brand and that they have this idea that if you can hold the same power and dominance if you can suppress any type of vulnerability and be a man's man be this tough guy persona squash anything that has to do with femininity then you will succeed and that this is the whole thing around then you are you are you have young men growing up then with this idea that you have to hold power rather than build power or share power and then these kind of messages get through as in you have to be the say the breadwinner rather than the breadmaker ever of a family so if you ever want to go into a role such as anything to do a caring you are less of a man and it's always with the message of you are lesser if you don't hold power but also there is this but in terms of how young guys might interact with women or other young guys uh it's about control and power too uh his messaging could be interpreted as a a a well let's just use the example of a young girl saying no uh but a young boy who listens to Andrew Tate believing that that's that she doesn't mean no uh that if i want something i take it and that's what makes me a a a man so in other words like in some schools they're having to undo a lot of this this teaching that's uh that that people have picked up from from Andrew Tate that's how it can also manifest itself in the real world amongst young people particularly yeah and it's really difficult um and i'm speaking from an irish point of view consent has been an issue within ireland for a very very long time and we have we have a lot of really um kind of learnings around consent that are problematic anyway and we're not we we're very shameful country that we don't talk a lot about consent and that we really struggle with things like embarrassment when it is something that's really important that we begin to talk to our children from very very young about consent about their bodies about you know even everything from somebody saying to you oh give me a hug but actually you might not want to hug them so we don't talk about this stuff and even within the school system we're trying really hard to work on kind of new ways of teaching that bring in lots of different um ways to talk about consent because actually if you have then men like Andrew Tate who are talking about things like you know oh she might say that but actually she might really want it then you know it's it's further bringing the message to young men and boys how are they being influenced by the world that they live in and then how in turn can they influence the world you know and it's really difficult when there's platforms like social media giving that message and that continuous message again and again and even though some people say oh they'll shrug it off they know that he's you know they start doing it but actually it's the conditioning that men are are teaching other young boys to grow up in and that's when it can become really difficult yeah and for for you were I to say uh for you were I to say don't listen to what he's got to say it's not really quite as simple as that because an awful lot has been gone into uh brand uh Andrew Tate the light as I say the lifestyle the smoke and the cigars the working out the looking after your body if you want take it you it's not just simply as a case to to young men and that's why we're having this conversation because I think a lot of us parents aren't really uh familiar with this it's not just quite as simple to say he's talking nonsense ignore it because it's been ingrained far deeper than that because particularly say for instance on the likes of tiktok uh if if a young fella or a girl and I want to talk about the girls in a moment if they watch one of his videos for any prolonged period of time they are fed snippets of his information over and over and over again and then he'll give some advice and positive mental health and they'll go oh that's all right and then he'll hit you with some of this other stuff as well so that's why people might go oh you're making a big deal out of nothing it's not this is widely recognized as almost a deep programming yeah and you know we work as a youth project here and we do a project called what does he need which is with fiona wheeling and broken talkers and it is about exploring with boys and young men dialogue about what do they need in order to grow up and and make really good choices and the thing about it is you never shut down a conversation even if for you it's very difficult young people are trying to navigate themselves in a world that's really really difficult and telling them oh look you need to just not listen to that or stop talking like that is not going to work because what needs to happen is is they need to understand they need to figure it out and they need to critically think for themselves to be able to make really good choices so for us it's always about have the conversation no matter how hard it is and listen to the young person to see where there are i mean it's not so long ago that somebody i was having the conversation with a group and someone had called and you take a ghost and i was like what's it go you know in your life and when they spelled it out the thing is greatest of all time so g o a t and i was like this is how aggrieved this stuff is is that people like him and others are being seen like this and we have to unpack that we need people to help them figure it out yeah indeed i was going to talk about the impact on on women too because there are girls that listen to and and rotate and uh and you know if they're impressionable might feel that they uh they belong in the box that he wants to put them in i mean there there were six women um identified as part of the Romanian investigation as to being mistreated by uh the Tate brothers uh two of them have come out publicly to say no we weren't it was all consensual uh you know we were well looked after but both of them both of them had tattoos that read either property of Tate or Tate girl yeah so they went and had this permanently tattooed on their body yeah and this is the really difficult stuff that you know if you think about who are the most vulnerable in society and you know we work in an area where class issues are annual people are affected by inequality because of class and if you think about some of the women that you're talking about they are very vulnerable based on exclusion or race or identity or whatever it might be and they are the ones who don't always have the access into other areas so you know they might not see that the world has given them the same access because of inequality to education or employment or health and then men like Andrew Tate come along and they say well i give you the world as long as you do what i say da da da da and then it becomes very much about coercive control and financial control and then for many people we're only starting to learn about that kind of stuff we're only starting to get the legislation around coercive control and what does it really mean for people to hold that power and dominance over you and unfortunately it is the women who are always have impacted by this you know and it is that like you know is this oh but it's okay i have this really nice thing but i still have to do da da da i'm not allowed to talk to my friends i'm not allowed to go outside wearing this outfit but actually you know it's okay because i have something really beautiful at the end of the week you know or this lovely home or you know he charms me and you know it's a really this is a really difficult type of abuse that's very entangled around manipulation charm and power and suppression of anything vulnerable so it can be really easy to get caught up in it and we wouldn't be talking about it or spotlighting it unless an awful lot of of young people have been influenced by him this is not just you know scaremongering or it could be or whatever um you know there was a recent study of of young guys who regularly consume andrew tape material and a worrying proportion of them for example uh believed like he seemed to that uh in rape the victim is has to bear responsibility you know that's that's the type of stuff he's putting into people's heads a caller says i overheard a group of young lads glorifying tape outside my local center it broke my heart right so daniel also too um the problem is is he's filling a gap or avoid you know when we try and talk not only about young people but two young people on this program as much as we can uh about you know their views being listened to uh as i say talking to them not about them but a lot of young people feel like they don't matter if they don't care their views don't matter then you get someone that comes in and says yes they do they i care about you this is why the world is against you or this is how you have to make your way in the world maybe part of our responsibility is to fill that void that the likes of tate is filling yeah i mean one of the things i suppose that's what that's really shown through for us is the lack of conversation that particularly men are involved in around this stuff so we've had this project going since 2018 and it's really interesting that now all like since the stuff that i do take that we are getting the kind of the time and the space in this in the wider kind of society through media to have the really hard conversations but for us it's like none of these issues are new we've been we've been working through these since then and before that you know but the thing about it is is that i'm i'm i'm very very you know conscious that i'm a woman saying this around masculinity and the shape of masculinity in in the current situation in society right now but the issue that we have is that there's not men coming out and talking about that so if you have a look at any of the research and it looks at role modeling when boys and young men want to have a role model the research shows that boys look to men for role modeling and they look for them around learned behavior and all of those kind of things yes they often admire their mothers and have you know real respect for women in their lives but if they want role modeling in terms of career you know uh the type of man that they want to be they look to other men but men aren't unfortunately having this conversation so one of the things that we're really trying to promote is get men involved so even though we're i think it's a really obviously a really good point you make there daniel and i think the conversation not on this platform but maybe another could be reading really widened out to to ask why men feel that they can't speak out anymore do you know what i mean like because to some extent this whole andrew tape thing is a pushback against what some might call the woke culture right so let's just say it is but i think there's an awful lot of people in between the woke and the tapes that feel that they can't put the head above the parapet because they don't know what the right thing to say is or they might have it chopped off and i think just we need to we need to find a space yeah but you know that is exactly it because we've done workshops through what did you need with with men we've done a lot of them and some of the things that men would say to us is that men police are their men so they keep each other in check and they check each other's behavior that you're not going outside of a particular conversation and then there was a big thing around these groups the the social media groups the whatsapp groups that you know all these images and stuff get shared and men often don't say anything about them because they are they have a fear of what will the other men think about it so there's a lot around men together and figure out the relationship that they have with each other yeah i think we need to break past that though because i i think with respect daniel and it's not just in men i think in january i think we've we're now in the space where birds of a feather flock together and you you know i'm not sure there's a massive amount of interaction i think maybe one or two guys might leave a a whatsapp group that they don't like what's going in there but i just think they then find a whatsapp group that suits them and we're not i just feel that we're we're splitting into packs right across society we did a conversation on this program not long ago before christmas about peer-to-peer abuse in this county i'm not blaming andrew tate for it but the statistics for donna goal were incredibly incredibly worrying about young people reporting abuse from other young people but we cannot rule out the type of influence that this type of stuff on social media might be having as i say it seemed to be a particular problem here in the northwest absolutely and there is i mean the like the social media platforms and what gets shared there needs to be other types of monitoring around that if that is the message that's coming forward you know often people would say oh blame parents that you know parents shouldn't be allowed their their children to look at these things but actually that's also another part of the jigsaw so you know it needs to be like a collective approach and and there needs to be more conversations not only you know around at home but also in school or in youth projects to really just to figure it out yeah and again unfortunately what we see now is you have one group of individuals pitched against another and we're not finding any solutions to an awful lot of our problems in this life because of that we really need to find some place for mediation for for moderate views for conversation for changing of opinions because everything now it's just you find what you believe in and you stand in it doesn't matter what happens you stay there and it's just not getting us anywhere i don't think how do you speak in a minute or two uh how do you speak to young people then to tease out their views to maybe if required de-program some of this stuff that might be in their minds yeah i mean and i suppose a minute or two would never do it you know this stuff is really hard and it needs critical questions that you're not set under the top do you have those daniel i mean would you rejoin us after the news at 11 if i don't know if you have any other appointment but we can give it a bit longer after the news at 11 if you're all right all right with that okay yeah or maybe signpost us daniel instead that might be might be better in terms of time like where can rather than us maybe try and get through on air are the resources out there that parents can go to to to sort of maybe get more of the questions that we don't have time for this morning yeah i mean i suppose that like for us we have a website called whatdotheyneed.com perfect you know and there's a there's a huge amount of that there's also it's very creative there's an audio piece as well on it there's um there's boys that have been created and actually there's animations that have been made by boys exploring this type of stuff so we always believe in creativity as a way to explore things and and for young people to really be able to express themselves okay and and and that website one more time daniel yeah so it's whatdotheyneed.com what does he need.com listen thank you so much for 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donal kavanaugh thank you great good morning 66 patients were without beds at letterkenny university hospital this morning 24 of them on trolleys in the hospital's emergency department to further 42 people waiting elsewhere across the hospital the animal says letterkenny today is the most overcrowded hospital in the country nationally 506 admitted patients were awaiting beds at hospitals this morning a second status yellow weather warning for low temperatures and ice takes effect nationwide this afternoon material is warning of icy stretches from four o'clock leading to hazardous conditions especially on untreated roads or paths separate similar warning is in place at the moment it expires at midday the garden commissioner is to be questioned today on the new policing system due to be rolled out in the northwest the new model will mean the dunigol garden division will combine with sligo and litrum with one superintendent looking after the entire region drew harris will appear at today's meeting of the dunigol joint policing committee he's been invited on a number of occasions in the past just over a third of irish electricity was generated by wind last year in total 34 percent of power came from wind farms that was up 4% on 2021 according to an analysis from the energy consultant's beringa it resulted in irish consumers not having to pay 2 billion euro for gas last year the ceo of wind energy ireland says significant progress has been made but there is still a long way to go to reach 2030 targets of 80 percent of energy being generated by renewable means the completion of the month to deri greenway has moved a step forward it's been confirmed that a contractor has now been appointed to deliver the cool more section of the project on the deri side of the border and a retired vet says the development of a new school of veterinary medicine in ireland is vital but progress is slow geord roti told the nintel noon show today there's a shortage of vets particularly in terms of vets look after cattle that's the shortage that's being felt particularly acutely in dunigol he says there are questions to be asked about how the design and procurement of the new school is being coordinated mr roti is also concerned that in light of brexit the really issues with joint recognition of qualifications and we're back with news headlines again at 12 noon thank you very much donal the mcplant what 100 vegan even the cheese wow can't be can't it really is the mcplant from mcdonald's with melt in the mouth vegan cheese a delicious sesame seeded bun vegan mayo and a juicy beyond meat patty it's our iconic taste plant-based served after 11 a.m. subject to availability all right sarah joins us on the show now hi sarah hi gregg how are you good good good morning to you right uh just following on from our conversation as it relates to mr tape before 11 o'clock what's your view um well i suppose i text in as a parent now i haven't listened to andrew t but because he's been mentioned so much in the media recently and i had a conversation with my son last week and some of his friends in the car and i kind of got the impression that teenage boys are feeling a bit lost at the moment and that they're afraid to voice their opinions and that it's all kind of pro women and pro lgbt and things like that and i think andrew t has come in as a bit of a role model because he's as i said i haven't listened to him but i kind of got the opinion from them that he's kind of pro men if that makes sense yeah so he's giving them a voice that they feel like the lowest common denominator right yeah i agree male sort of a thing is that that yes yeah that's the best way of putting it yeah um that they don't feel that they have a voice at the moment now my daughter was in the car at the same time and she was like but he's anti-women and the boys were going he's not anti-women so i don't know how the boys are interpreting compared to what adults might be picking up as i said i haven't listened i think it's not as much that he's on my agenda i'm not thinking as much of these anti-women uh it's more the role or the place that he sees women if you know what i mean so i can understand how your daughter might feel uh that he's anti her or what she hopes to achieve in her life or what have you but i can also understand then how the younger boys might feel no he's not he's not anti-women but they probably wouldn't go on to say then he just believes that your role's not quite as you might think it is if that makes uh if that's yeah and i suppose i can see her both for me because i haven't listened but yeah both of them um my daughter was asked the impression he was anti-women um and the boys were saying that he wasn't anti-women and that he's kind of pro um you know not spending too much time on social media and not spending too much time and again as i said i haven't listened to him but not spending too much time on computers or computer games that you have to be going out and working um so this is just the conversation from the car the other day that they felt that there was a lot of parts of things too that he was saying so if you had no concerns again i have a misunderstanding sorry sarah uh pick your pardon so if you had no concerns uh and they just said oh by the way uh sarah or mom um there's this guy called andrew tate on the internet and he says this that and then right so say from what they told you in that conversation you probably wouldn't flag that as negative as such then would you you'd probably go well that's what you seem to be getting influence from someone who's teaching you to stay off social media who's teaching you to you have to work hard for what you want to achieve you can't sit in your backside on the face of it then it would sound like a positive message yeah from the conversation that i was getting with the boys they were picking positive stuff from it um and as i said i was stressed again i haven't listened to my to-do list because you know um the conversation needs to be happened with the boys to make sure and you know that they're not picking things up wrong but from what i gathered from them it was all positive um it wasn't anti-women and and again this is just what the discussion in the car um from them let's let's put ourselves in the in the in the position of teenage boys then heterosexual teenage boys if that matters but perhaps it does so they're in the school environment are there any sort of talks that are geared to elevate them are there any posters or murals on the wall to celebrate them or to sort of or maybe life is set up that really the default position is is that if you're that fella you're okay do you know what i mean but clearly there's something in that setting that makes them feel like as i'll go back to the earlier crude way of putting it that they feel that they're the lowest common denominator then that must be what they're feeling yeah and i i think so as well because we're talking about how um you know there's mental health campaigns or you know campaigns around lg tp um you know and if they're being bullied and stuff like that in school and highlighting the numbers but there's nothing like that around boys there's campaigns for women but there's nothing for boys there's campaigns around refugees people of color and i think the boys are just starting to be lost yeah but those boys aren't in everything those boys are far far far less likely to be raped they're far less likely to the beat oh i agree yeah but obviously someone needs to message this to them sarah i'm not sort of counter pointing you i i get exactly what you're talking about but yeah they're they're not going to be possibly if they're white they're not going to be racially abused you know they're not going to oh no i 100% agree with you but i think that needs to be part of the conversation then doesn't it so they oh yeah and it totally was but i think we're we're like i think as adults um you know or if you're at a certain age you have grown up where people have been you know racially abused etc etc but these boys have just been growing up with campaign after campaigning and there's nothing now i i totally agree with what you're saying but i think from their perspective they don't know any difference yeah and i'm not saying if you know what you mean and that's all that they're saying i don't want you to i don't want you to think i i thought that's what you should be saying i'm on about in the social media world or in the school environment maybe they should be reassured of their space in society and that's why we focus on other areas if you know what i mean i'm not saying you or me or who i'm just yeah i just want to maybe the space that the range should account for that so they understand that all right okay right i understand now why we're focusing on uh we're focusing on on maybe females or we're focusing on members of the lgbt plus community that's why they're not doing campaigns for us do you know what i mean just the messaging and to make sure lads you understand what's going on here so i i also agree with you sarah if that makes sense i wasn't saying you should be in the car saying it but i just think we should understand that there's a vacuum here and it's like the vacuum i talked of to lorraine before there's something happening here that people like andrew takes able to go in and fill and these people young lads feel he's talking to us he gets us yeah i hundred percent agree with you um they need to find that we better space for an society yeah and i think too at the end of your getting lost in all of the conversations and sure yeah but like those conversations still need to happen you know i'm not saying no it shouldn't happen they need to happen and but i think teenage boys and probably even men out there are starting to feel a bit lost and you know sometimes a woman can say something and nothing is set off us but if a man said the exact same thing you know didn't really be torn to shreds so i think it's difficult for them and i'm coming from the woman's point of view so i could be completely wrong and also too did you am i reading from your text correctly that you're saying see even with the the refugee situation that are you saying that you know women are seen as they're safe and everything's grand and and and kids of course are safe and everything's grand but if you happen to be a man you're the big bad wolf is that the point you were making there as it relates to i don't want to put words in your mouth it's just no well i don't know i think just from speaking with the boys there seems to be a place for everybody else or everybody else seems to have a voice and or somebody speaking out for them and but the teenage boys and probably young men don't have anybody speaking out for them and maybe as you said that's where it and your taste is filling back well i and as i said i haven't listened to him um so no i get i don't know but listen when we talk when we talk about say positive mental health we recognize that particularly with young lads there's an issue there can be a more of an issue with with mental health we do talk about that quite a bit i'm just teasing this out as we go right yeah i think too if we talk about say for instance young girls not getting abused or assaulted we're also talking about the future of the young fellows that could be found guilty of perpetrating such acts so a lot of this is set up to sort of make them better people and to protect them but clearly there's some issue with the messaging that they feel that they don't matter and everybody else does is do you think yeah i think potentially well from the conversations in the car the other day and yeah and there was three teenage boys um and that was the impression that i was getting from them and and again that the messages that they were picking up from andre t was all positive they didn't feel anything negative or they didn't think that anything negative was being said against women yeah and as i said i haven't listened to it and obviously there's multiple experts coming out over the last few weeks seeing what he's seeing is negative against women but yeah but you know in a way sarah and i think these these young people in the car were very lucky to have you in the car as well because you don't see the people that are mad to defend him and see the people that are are are are mad to sort of i want to say mad i mean they just want him annihilated in the face of the planet i think you're somewhere in between and you you know you've got the clarity of that sort of middle ground to to look at this from all angles and find what's best for your those young fellas so i don't mean this patronizing sarah i think they're very lucky that it happens to be you that's asking that question because i think you'll you're in the best position to guide them and let them think for themselves and fight that find what will be the right path rather than feeling that they have to pick a side so i think they're lucky to have you sarah thank you um yeah it's i don't know it's difficult i think for um do you know what's difficult sarah and and women and being a parent being a parent yeah isn't it certainly a social media and yeah it's an absolute minefield to be yeah and i i think there's yeah and there's so much access now to um social media and things online that's um you know i didn't even know that they were listening in time to each other until i you know i brought it up in conversation the other day with them are so many people said now they didn't even know who andrew chate was until you know the last number of weeks and but i think it's important that the conversations are being had with them and as i said i need to listen to it him myself to kind of you know it it was hard for me to have the conversation with them as well because i hadn't i don't know what he's been saying um sarah if you want the experts coming out and saying if you find the time i would love to chat to you again after you listen to what he had to say okay if you have the time i know you've been also balls in the air juggling but if you do sort of have the space and time get back in touch with us i'd love to get your assessment of because of the because of the clarity that you seem to have i would love to get your assessment of what tate has to say on things so if if if you can i'd love to chat to you again sarah it's been lovely chatting to you this morning okay take care thank you thank you so much indeed slight delay on the line with sarah there um so my apologies for that but she her points come across loud and clear and there's a few comments actually coming in along those lines as well um i would love just to have a conversation as i say of a position whereby i'm learning i've learned from sarah i i've found her views interesting rather than you know the the extremes of it but anyway listen i can't 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win that's halfway house bingo tonight at 8 30 watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highland radio dot com welcome back hsc data obtained by photo arland shows that a total of 1775 dunagol patients were waiting over a year in total 3698 people were on october's dunagol ophthalmology treatment waiting list claudah mcgovern is a photo arland board member for you do call it photo claudah do you photo yeah that's for the federation of optometrists and dispensing politicians right okay so the patients waiting in dunagol uh age 0 to 469 5 to 17 121 18 to 64 adults 878 over 65 707 so what kind of appointments are these people waiting for claudah yeah that's a really good question so i suppose for the adult population it's more like age-related maturity generation clock home cataracts and then for the younger group the under 17 that's waiting for a regular eye examination and i suppose what we're trying to highlight is that you know research shows that 60 of these existing outpatients could actually be released out into primary care out into local optometrists and thus freeing up the ophthalmologist and searching to do what they're really good at and also allowing us to reduce the waiting list so there are ways around reducing these waiting lists and that's i suppose we're trying to appeal to the hse and the student donnelly to make these changes yeah i get you i mean this you've identified a problem and you're identifying a solution and obviously it'd be in the interest of photo members as well as well as the people they'd be treating so i wonder of do we have a figure or even a guesstimate of how many of these appointments 1,775 for dunagol patients would actually be in dunagol because some of these uh some of these services i think are provided in sligo do we do we have any idea if you know so that when they when they and when they release the figures it's just linked with the counties so i suppose with sligo there's a really good pilot in there at the minute that you're obviously aware of and just explain to your listeners what that looks like it's the only place we're doing shared care in the country so if you went in and instead of having to go back into the hospital and for your follow-up appointments you'd actually be going back into your local optician and that's what shared care looks like and as a result in sligo it's been really successful because it's reduced to the waiting list and also it's so much easier on patients if if you're living several you know or a hundred miles away from the hospital but you're only a few miles from your local optometrists it's a win-win for everyone we can reduce waiting list and also make it easier on on patients so that scheme in sligo has been only a pilot scheme and but we would love to see is that rolled out nationwide you know so that everyone would have the same access to that sort of shared care scheme yeah i mean much of this waiting list could be cleared very very quickly i'd imagine a lot of those young people going in for ites because i did that with a couple of mine and then at some random point they say you're not coming back to this place anymore you're going to spec savers or some other opticians do you know so yeah i mean some of this obviously might be more complex and i'll tease that out with you but an awful lot of this i imagine people could start getting appointments in days oh days and that's what we're trying to appeal is that what we would like to see is that we can develop a new program for school children so optometrists have the capacity and also the expertise to see children in communities but the system that exists at the moment is that a child is screened in their infant years in school and if they fail that screening they're then put on the waiting list to see an ophthalmologist and what happens then is that child could sit in the waiting list for a year or longer whereas if if the hse were to collaborate with the local optometrists that person could be seen within a week or two and what they get done when they wait to go on that list to see an ophthalmologist is the exact same that they could get in uh your local opticians or your big opticians or whatever it is there's no it's not like they're doing anything that can't be done and then you can get glasses uh prescribed i presume uh say for instance if there were corrective lenses needed for a uh a week or i your local uh ophthalmologist would be able to do that as well it's not something that you need a local optometrist the ophthalmologist is kind of no you're okay i know it's it's a mouthful isn't it no so the ophthalmologist is based in the hospital and it's the optometrist but they're the same people aren't they no no i mean they do sorry they do the same job do they not for the children they do yeah okay for the children yeah that's so we'll move on to the other age groups then so so i just wanted to no can i just make one point of course you can't move away from the kids because a really important part of it is that we know that early intervention for children and their eyes has a significant impact on what their lifelong vision will be and if we leave children awaiting lists and we don't intervene in time they they potentially have the consequence of that for the rest of their life so the the children's waiting list is actually very significant and you know if we know that we shouldn't leave one child on a waiting list not alone in dunny gall there's been 190 children on a waiting list for over a year and unfortunately it's it's the worst waiting list in the country at the minute is in dunny gall and and it's not right i just think in this day and age you know we're 2023 in developed country we know better we know early intervention works you know we shouldn't believe in children on a waiting list for one day all right just one other question on that then so yeah can a parent or guardian then say i'm going to be sitting on this waiting list for uh another year i'm just going to go straight into my opticians and get it sorted yeah so they can't do that they're not but no they can of course they can they can go into their local optometrists but the hsc doesn't cover that so in order to access free free and free eye care for a child you have to go through the system that's there at the moment i'm not sure if it's worth it and i know it's easy for me to say that uh because you know everyone's got different levels of resources but i with what you're talking about pros you know i'm not sure if the saving is is worth it at all i you know if you can find some way to find your money find the money but i suppose it's not right either and the hsc have a responsibility to every child in this country so they can access free eye care and so i think yes a parent could do that but i think it's up to the hsc to step up and to facilitate that eye care for every child in this country and as we get older it's a mixed bag of course it's a difference between yeah presumably it's a mixture between treatment and aftercare uh a combination of which would also greatly ease these waiting lists i'd imagine well usually i mean as i said in the beginning like the research shows that 60 of outpatients in hospitals at the moment could be released out into community you know we see the shared care in sliago working we see it working you know across the uk and scotland and wales where they work with shared care and it and it minimizes the outpatient waiting lists and and we can do that and and if you don't mind last year if i can read this out for you minister donnelly last year at one of our conferences said that he fully accepts that we need to do more to address unacceptable high waiting lists including in our eye service he went on to say then that community optometrists are delivering poor eye care services in this country through this state community optometrist service scheme but and he believes that optometrists have the potential to play a greater role and his officials are working with the hsc with a view to contracting more services out into the community yes so miss you know steven donnelly has acknowledged this he knows it but unfortunately um very little has been done what do you see the problem is is that and and and for me the more i dig into this it seems to always go back to the same thing are there a group of civil servants somewhere that actually make the decisions that feel that if they were to farm some of this out to private that uh it would in some way for whatever reason be seen as a failure or a failure of their system or the catalyst for something i don't know what the motivation for them to resist this might be but it's working in sligo we have a problem we have a solution uh with all respect to the health minister he doesn't have really a great deal of decision making power there are obviously members of the permanent government or civil servants who are resisting this for one reason or another and i suspect it might be that there it'll be seen as well the public service isn't working and look how quickly the private service we're able to fix it up and maybe that could snowball into something that was that they're scared of yeah that's a really good point greg and and you know you're probably on the money there with it but at the end of the day i think it's not he said she said who's side the fence like let's just put the patient at the centre of her oh i know that but i i know that maybe steven donnelly might have the best interests at heart i know that you do and i know the patients do but unfortunately i don't believe the conversation amongst those three people gets us to where we need to be and i uh this is no disrespect for you i just feel we're having an awful lot of the same conversations about certain things and i just think we need to actually get to the people that are making these decisions and challenge them as to why they're not making logical solutions that would make so many people's lives so much better you know because mr donnelly can say whatever he likes but unfortunately it doesn't mean something happens no and and the thing is there's a huge appetite from patients and from professions to have change you know it's there and putting in a shared care team is a win win for everybody and um i suppose we can just keep talking about it in some ways but hopefully you know but even just having these interviews at the hsc and like steven donnelly are listening and that you'd hope that they would action action something to improve these waitingness i mean obviously there's a pilot going in sligo it's been going for quite some time now and the feedback is working pretty good yeah sure is there some concern within the industry that this is just going to elapse or it's not going to be adopted more widely do you know what i mean in other words why am i speaking to you and we're not trusting the system not trusting the system to see that it's working in sligo roll it out everywhere what are your concerns i don't know what's blocking that roll out to be honest and like sligo is not like that's going to continue going you know that that's been a huge success everyone is acknowledged the success but so i can't understand why it hasn't been rolled out in that nationwide yet just a couple of questions do you understand that do you know if children are screened for ocular melanoma are these the freckles effectively that that can be on the back of the eye yeah in the in the screen there would be but it is just a screening it's not a full eye examination so like with any screening not everything gets picked up and you know there's there's over and under referring as well within screening so i think if if a parent is any sort of concern or they have family histories that they really do need to be going for full eye examination yeah i'm at the beginning of needing eye care should it be going private uh from the get go it's not something i can't afford but i can try to sorry it's not something i can't afford but i can try to budget uh in for it i don't want to be waiting over a year i mean it's it's i mean no so can i just pick you up on that point so just to be clear the people on the waiting list have been referred in yeah so for your for your normal routine eye examination you can go into your local optometrist your prsi or medical card will cover that for free eye examination for you and if you had to pay it privately you know it's it's around the 50 euro mark and and it's just after that if somebody has a problem like they have clock home or macular degeneration that they're then referred into the ophthalmology system because that's system that's in place and that's what has to be done and correct can you correct me if i'm wrong here just because the word public and private's being used by all of us here not you you know what you're on about i don't i mean obviously there are there's there's there's public eye care and then the stuff that can just be do routinely done which would be private obviously with a private company but then there's private eye care then which is a different thing altogether isn't it that might involve uh i know what you're saying so like the coma or something is everything in it so the local optician you know has it treats everyone the same and it just depends on how it's funded so if you have a medical card it's funded that way if you peer aside and could they remove a cataract in your local you couldn't remove a cataract that's what i'm talking about yeah exactly that's what i'm talking about another area private practice there's there's sort of three but most of it couldn't be done i get you does that make sense you understand why i'm trying to clarify that no i do yes but i hope we haven't used the list oh well i listen they're well used to it most most of them listen every day um i've been waiting on my my eye appointment for six months now am i better to sit tight or should i be contacting somebody well i mean you can contact somebody but i would say if you're on a waiting list and everything is stable then you know maybe you just have to sit tight but if you feel there was any deterioration or a change in the reason that you've been referred then if you go back to your local optometrists they'd reexamine you and they would then send in another letter which if things have worsened then you might increase your chance of moving up the waiting list and i think too in certain areas i think i'm thinking too particularly with school children you know maybe something's amiss with the with the current system and and what have you i just think if we uh we reimagine that and uh maybe tapped into a lot of the expertise that we're talking about that's available there i just think not only would we have sort of people being more seen more quickly um and also you know better outcomes because they're seen more quickly but i just think it might might be a better system that the the that could be taken from the hsc's hands not from their hands sorry but you know the actual no i know yeah yeah no you're totally on the ball gragg i have to say like what's the the system that exists now is that children get screened once in their junior years that the reality is that our vision continues to change and grow and develop as you get older so it's not right just to do a screening once for that child is five or six and never to screen the child again after that and what happens if they're off sick or they're not there or i don't know but you'd hope they'd follow up with that well you see that's the that's the gaps that unfortunately have experience of that people can fall through and i just feel a different system could be a catch all uh so that every parent and guardian would have every best chance to say no well i'll make a new appointment right well let's just say you know we're seeing seeing it in action to some extent in in sly go i think you can say with absolute confidence that that one thousand seven hundred and seventy five uh don't go patient wasting list could be started to be eaten into really really quite quickly as i say we've identified the problem we've identified the solution we've got a pilot project just down the road from here the question we've we've seen minister donnelly is is is uh positive towards it in his words we need to make and that's maybe that's the role of opposition parties to find out exactly precisely what's going on here anything else i think it's important to add claude no i think you've got it you know and i think just from donnie gall that it's what's happened at the minute is that it isn't that postcode lottery and unfortunately being in the postcode of donnie gall at the minute is is the numbers very rarely come up here uh unfortunately claude to extend that you know that we need a natural we need like a national approach to ensure fairness for everyone across the country that it shouldn't matter where you live 100 that's what i know you know that yeah that's what we're trying it's just everywhere you turn it just feels like things are going against you but as i say we have fantastic people working in pretty much every town in this county that could could be part of the solution to this if we just uh we just explore it right claude mcgovern photo arland board member maybe one quick question here sorry i had a i had a cataract removed and they scored the cornea so i have a permanent blur is there anything that can be done to rectify this or anywhere i can go my eyesight is now impaired oh absolutely i mean i'd say that there could be multiple things there that could need to be looked at i would say the first point of all go back to your local optometrists let them assess it and they'll know them what the best word to call this options they're all there's options there is of course yeah absolutely thank you very 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devised the plan then of relax kids around that and using the you know the fairy tale stories and so just to help with kids to relax more and and so to given them it's given them tools for life and how to deal with anxiety how to deal with worries is for children right across the board and it's coping mechanisms or tools or it's to recognize it i suppose in the first instance and then to adopt behaviors or routines or whatever it might be to it's not something you have to live with all of your life anxiety really oh absolutely not oh no no um so that's what i mean it just helps children um it gives them a toolkit for life on how to deal with with um anxiety how to deal with worries and you know it's it's if you can teach children at a young age at young at young age at four or five like if they start in good stead then how to deal with their emotions when they become a teenager yes grow up into their future life so they know then how to deal with all these things so what kind of age groups of children are you working with and and what are they presenting with so i start working with kids as young as three who are presenting issues with things are you right with how would it might it manifest anxiety how might an anxiety manifest itself in a three-year-old Bernadine Bernadine I beg your pardon um their the parents come to me and they can see that there's been a huge change in their and their child at three years like child shouldn't have any anxiety at three years four years of age i suppose things have been hard on them this past two years with covid and things like that and they're presenting all these issues now with no social interaction um you know not uh you know performing well in schools and you know they feel isolated now i suppose they're more games and things like that too they're more access to things and so yeah so kids as young as that are coming to me but i'm just wondering with that stage because there's the old nature nurture thing you know i'm just wondering uh are we looking at you know what what's causing it you know is it us as parents or guardians uh is there is something that people are being born with you know what i mean what are the triggers uh i mean it's great that we're and we're going to talk more about how you uh you you tool people and and and help people but the rate of anxiety amongst young people at the moment and and we were talking about that this last week and that's why we're speaking about speaking to you today it's it's off the scales like they've not seen anything like it and as well as the great work that you're doing in trying to help people uh deal with it i just think we need we need real studies to find out why three or four or five year olds are presenting with anxiety absolutely like they shouldn't have any anxiety like when we were three four and five you were out playing you had you know as you said in the show the last day you were out climbing trees you were doing loads a little you know you're doing loads of things like that but now it's just i think kids are just in this sort of bubble maybe um wrapped in cotton wool maybe to a certain extent where they don't actually get to live and be a child and i think too and a lot of parents would have said to me as well is you know there's too much talk in front of children like children now are absorbed like they're little sponges they absorb everything they have you know maybe financial troubles at home mortgage troubles you know no work and all this now has been spoken in front of children and they are soaking that up i mean and you know when we were young we were put out of the room you know there's an adult conversation going on you know get out of the room and we we'll talk you know but now kids are just absorbing to all of that but they're not tooled you see it's all right for us as adults to try and deal with the problems life throws at us but we've built up over those same years that we're alive we've built up ways of trying to cope with it some of us better than others uh four five six seven eight year old hasn't got those you know they don't know how to filter or line their ducks up to deal with stressful situations like you've been outlining now i just want to recognize the fact that say for instance in the situation like defective concrete homes there is no way to protect your children from that you cannot protect your children from those conversations because it's their lived life in their reality so i think both you and i bernadine recognize that but there are other areas that maybe we aren't careful you know what we're we're talking about in front of the children do you have that conversation with parents though as they bring their children in bernadine because it's a toughie it is a toughie yeah it is a toughie um but as i as i said to them you know i said i'm not i'm not a counsellor i'm not you know i'm a relaxed kids coach i'm here to give children the tips on how to deal with all these emotions that they have and you know we're faring back to the you know the the the kids that are involved with them with amika i mean you know it's it's very hard very hard for children and i would love to be able to do something for them um to give them little tools maybe just just to help to get through it and hopefully the parents can find the strength and the courage to keep going with it as well and we'll talk after the break but this is stuff that's tried and tested that's been proven to work with the relaxed kids yeah do you know the the the the the tools that are used that the uh i can't remember what i can't think of the right word is but the approach to it it's it's it's tried and tested listen stay where you are because i do have to catch up on what well i don't have to catch up it's actually scheduled a very quick break and then that clears the decks then and we can start sort of getting to solutions and and what people can do to help on what Bernadine can do to help you 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take off take it easy right frost and icy stretches that were around this morning may linger into the afternoon in some places and today we'll bring sunny spurs and scattered showers some wintry highest temperatures of just two or three degrees with light to moderate northwest breezes we're in conversation as part of monday focus this morning with bernadine boil of relaxed kids donnie gall and you know we're not going to be able to get through it today in terms of what might be causing this stuff but i think it'd be worthy of analysis on a national scale you know through the hsc who or whatever uh office might be responsible bernadine i don't know if you agreed to sort of try and find out what what could be a cause in a spike rather than just saying now well it was covid or it was this and i understand that could be it but i think i would like our health service to drill in a little bit more deeper uh so that maybe can help us as parents as well to loss up as well what do you think a hundred percent greg yeah absolutely i mean there has to be and something done for children and to see what why all these anxieties are being uh presented now or what's causing it um i suppose there's just i mean to be honest greg how i got into relaxed kids was um i became a single mum which is another issue the kids have to deal with um and so i was trying to find tools to help my child to get through um that that process of what we were going through you know he was very young and that's how i got into relaxed kids i thought i was going to help my child to get through and that's a very common scenario as well like lots of people listening will be able to relate to you right okay so um what uh i mean obviously you know you want people come and avail of your services but i mean what basic advice can you give parents and guardians uh i wonder bernardine um is to give them tips on how to how to relax and how a parent can relax so when you have a relaxed parent you have a relaxed child and i do classes with um with adults as well um so give them the tips on how to deal and how to cope with your child do you find yourself then dealing with family units bernardine family units um yeah family units and adult groups like the um parent groups ica groups local woman groups so i do classes with all of them um and i you know so basically with the benefits of relaxed kids um we're taking them from a high energy so i have them running screaming shouting through the place getting all that anger frustration getting all that out of them um so we do movement we do play stretching massage so it's a self massage on themselves breathe in exercises then i do um believe which is the vigilations or um you know tell them that you know i am good i am brilliant i am happy building up their confidence and then the last part then is the relaxation where they just lie in their blanket and they go to sleep some of them actually do go to sleep um and i read them a guided meditation and then those tools are really quite interesting i've read somewhere about uh you know i was feeling pretty anxious that i'm pretty anxious all the time but i was feeling pretty anxious this one particular day and i was reading about putting stuff in a box you know your emotions or what's making you anxious in a box and then visualizing the box and putting the lid in the box and then finding a place to put i felt i felt pretty good after it to be honest with you i don't know how it worked i don't know if i just tricked myself or something but my point you're saying like i've got a lot of faith in in i'm not saying that's what you're telling people to do but i have a lot of faith in these processes i think that that you know these tools that you can give people like the example i've given there but you know the self-massage and and the believe program that you talk of like you know the mind probably is very complex but it can be very easily sort of manipulated as well presumably to your benefit oh yeah yeah yeah and that's what the believe part like that's building up their confidence so as funny as you mentioned a box what i use in one of the um in the believe part is i have a box and it's all wrapped and i have you know special amazing brilliant uh unique cam written on the top of the box or you know labeled on top of the box and then i ask the children to come up and say okay what do you think is inside the box do you think there's something special or do you think there's something amazing in here and they'll say okay there's something special and when they open the lid of that box and i have a mirror placed inside they see themselves and they're like oh my god am i special am i amazing you know when to hear children you know to come out with that um and thank god i am actually special i am amazing and i am i am happy and just smile on their faces it's just it's brilliant like it's really brilliant yeah um call us as children are too pampered too much talk the parents talk too much in front of their children they were far better off when they were out playing but listen you know there was always been i think really back in my day you would have said oh that young lads a warrior you know what i mean or anxiety would have been labeled in different ways i don't think anxiety is anything new i think uh you know that there's people have had i just think we're maybe better identifying what it is now and also we have to recognize that there seems to be more of it about but it's not a new phenomenon anxiety uh bernadine oh it's not it's not due it's something that's been there for for years and uh i suppose now that there's more there's more maybe projects like relax kids or there's different projects out there that help with all with all of these situations for children um so yeah it's you know with with relax kids that that's all i can do and i help with try and help with children and to get out get over that stage like with no confidence as well and they have um like some of them are shy like when they come to me they're clinging on to their mother you know i don't don't go mommy don't go mommy i don't want you to go um so there's all this panic and um just out of sorts and then very stressful and so yeah so when the parent comes back and sees them lying on the ground with their blanket over them sleeping they're like what have you done to my child like he's he was all anxious and worried an hour ago to now where he's lying on the floor and he's totally totally relaxed so it's just giving them that time and space just to relax my eight-year-old son's not sleeping at night it's gotten really bad since the christmas holidays any tips like is that i mean if you're eight and you're not sleeping you're probably mind's working you're probably his mind's probably working ten to the dozen there in bed yeah absolutely yeah um and there's plenty of more children like that too where they're not sleeping and again it's it's the time and space before bed the you know i'm no professional you know but um it's given them the time just to relax before bed um some people say you know even lavender sprayed on the pillow um reading them a story a guided visualization maybe again just to calm them down in their bed um and set us a regular bedtime as well to get into that routine that they know that's half seven's bedtime or coordinates bedtime so they have that routine as well yeah okay um bed wetting um is anxiety a cause of that yeah i would i would yeah i would imagine yes greg um that's again more down to there's something going on there that's obviously causing that there's some sort of stress there's some sort of anxiety brought on by that by worries maybe not doing well at school um you know there's so there's there's a there's an underlying problem there to relax the body again um and to calm the body down again and i would use part of the relax kids program too i would use uh laughter yoga and i would also use um eft emotional freedom technique um so again that's dealing with the body again and calm on the body down yeah someone's talking about weighted blankets is that bad for growing children i think i think really i've never heard of it um i don't know if it's about anxiety or sleeping but i would be more inclined to sort of try and get to what might be stopping a child's sleep rather than buying a heavier blanket yes i would rather get to the root of the problem rather you know and see in what is causing it um i just saw them with a blanket actually very recently so so i'm not very familiar with them but i would definitely get to the root of the problem and see what's causing it yeah uh phones are contributing to children's mental health they don't be outside enough screens in general are not at beneficial i think it's the phones it's it's whether they're on the phones or not but you see they could be outside for 10 hours a day uh and on their phone for five minutes and they could hit on something in that five minutes that ruins their day i think we again need to be leaving them a space to talk about what they're looking at on the phones and what they're seeing on the phones that might be affecting their mental health do you know i mean it's you know whether they're on them for eight hours or 10 minutes i'm not sure that matters as such maybe it does but once they're on them they're on them they could get that one insult or that one negative remark that ruins their night i think it's more a case of tooling them on how to use the phone and to talk to you if something upsets them on it oh yeah yeah and it just takes what takes one one message or something just to spoil that day um so gain back to giving tips again on how to deal with that how to deal with all you know all them frustration things that they have and uh yeah they're they're more open to to phone and social media now and there's they're easily targeted for you know hard time with phones and and games so it is a lot harder for them at the minute right okay there's a lot there um and there are solutions as well hope is it is a very important thing um i think too it's also very important that parents are in a good space too because you know they're sponges children and they pick up a lot of stuff from us and uh we can help ourselves and then we're in the best position to help them as well more information people can go to uh relax kids done a goal is that correct Bernadine yeah relax kids done a goal on facebook and on instagram as well and there's um class details of all the classes that i have running at the minute and there are adults as well by the way so a few people are asking do you provide services for adults okay uh listen thanks for your time i really appreciate it i know we were supposed to speak before but things ran so thanks for being so flexible with us Bernadine and we'll chat again in the future take care of yourself Bernadine Boyle there uh relax kids done a goal today we had an awful lot of calls and comments coming in um and we also had an awful lot lined up so i didn't get to them so please don't think i'm filtering your comments i know there's an awful lot of comments in there on evs which i want to continue the conversation on on the andrew take conversation the stuff in there as well so they're not being sidelined we'll get to them uh tomorrow throughout the course of tuesday but that's where we have to leave it for another three hours on a monday thank you so much for being with us and we're back with you tomorrow morning at nine do you know who else is back tomorrow morning no one don't let my job reference back today just after 12 uh is the point i was trying to get at uh right chat to you tomorrow stay tuned john's next the nine till noon show with letter kenny credit union