 Well back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa time for us to go through the papers We call it off the press GD Johnson joins us this morning GD. Good morning, and thank you for joining us Amen, amen think we can say amen to that. Okay. Amen. So we'll start with the punch newspaper Legos train boss crash NRC last smart blame driver as federal government orders probe Boss driver reckless ignored safety warning by rails waste staff That's according to your fish oh six killed Families donate blood as 29 critically injured Battle for survival. Legos suspends political campaigns. Buhari Sunibu Attiku others mourn Okay Inaq false judgment permitting temporary voters card for polls and you'll also find cod bar CEO from running the sampled again and see a probes Lucerdo over alleged passengers maltreatment and Just before we move away from that you find victims tackle lawless Soldier over extortion and harassment. That's on the punch this morning The nation is super has the following headlines survivors recount moment train slammed into bus Survivors recount moment train slammed into bus six die 29 critically injured 50 suffer injuries Buhari tin will sympathize So all who visits injured in hospital Legos accident Distressing says Buhari More from the nation the window caption first one there I like rejects court ruling on temporary Voter cards used to put out a press release or put out a statement on Twitter last night Four minutes past 9 p.m. Send they'll go to court Regarding that that federal high court in a bubble job Ruling a PC on covers plot by fake nadeco chief to discredit poll 25 killed in Badagri Inugu Obamu show road crushes a PC LP and NPP differ on shift of governorship poll federal government cautions doctors against joining strikes a PC and WC Member dies We can chase away Articule others rebuild party I think yesterday he said you chase away those who cost his party to lose the presidential election What a paradox or an irony those are some of the headlines on the front page of the nation Now we have the Guardian to look at poll shifts may cost Niger more than 2.23 billion I take that again poll shift may cost Niger more than 2.23 billion dollars Suffered in 2019 you find server riders would just take one or two postponement compounds now and fear crisis was that's according to the SBM Why Buhari is quiet over the allegations of irregularities against INEC March 18 poll excuses no longer acceptable I pack caution's INEC and INEC has eroded our confidence Then you find protect our integrity and integrity of data from beavers APC tells INEC INEC kicks us court orders commission to allow Nigerians vote without PVC's I mean really why have we been progressive or not? That's why reported positive trend palm oil industry still struggles and most times a lot people say This might just be victories that were recording on paper 21 die-in-road crashes in Lagos Inugu and then you find Plot training or pilot training fee hits 20 million era as NCA IAC increases tuition fee Government elections lessons of postponement sounds like an editorial. That's it on the Guardian Last paper on a table this morning is Leadership Friday some interesting headlines there, but we start with the big one polls postponement Governors re-strategize who voters with jobs promotions indeed We've seen some of it here in Lagos state riders To that tough race is expected in Lagos Delta Kano Keduna Gombe in Nassarowa, Katsina respect INEC cessation to postpone polls APC and we see a picture of that ill-fated BRT bus staff bus there and the train really sad one it says Okay, six dying Lagos train accident so Lu the class three days of mourning woman jail 24 years for 298,048 million narrow property for that's a long time troops arrest the rest 35 terrorist scale 21 crisis in IPO be camp Kano seeks to replace linear lawyer and Bajabia Miller tops list of contenders for chinos chief of staff so means that he may Say goodbye to the people of Suleyre the good people of Suleyre federal constituencies Let's start with you. Well, J. Johnson. Good morning. Once again. Let's start with your thoughts on yesterday's very sad incident at the PWD Junction right there in Ikea Lagos state very unfortunate one So far six people dead to four died in the hospital to dead people are brought from the scene and Overall 122 casualties attended to in the hospital God will grant the family of those that lost their loved ones and your credit winners the fortitude to pay the loss I hope for speaking recovery for those that are suffering from one injury or the other However, these are avoidable incidents. This is just them And avoidable incidents just complains with with basic regulation that governs Road and rail transport will have prevented will have prevented this now I saw one of the online which dinner I generally will cooperation and then in the state emergency response Authority said that we are blaming the driver He pushed to question the kind of people that are that that are recruited to be Driving these buses how often do they train them with respect to road safety if you drive on the road You know that these people driving these blue buses have no respect for the road users in our transcends They have no respect they don't mind pushing me into into into the into the drainage system along the road And the they operate like the roadmasters because they feel they are protected And I'm sure if you look at this particular incident and not to show you the driver is affected by this by by by by this by this by the unfortunate Unfortunate avoidable avoidable incident then That's on the part of the driver also another thing which we need to look at is our emergency response Situation instead of some people coming to the aid of the people there's going to teach and to educate Nigeria And what it means to be a first responder in the sense that some are busy taking They are busy taking pictures taking videos recording the incident other than Coming to the rescue of those that that that were involved that's on the part of the citizenry To be first responders other than to be by watchers or standby when such incidents happen The other one is our medical facilities in terms of our response to emergency and the rest and the rest of it we saw That we saw pictures of people being lead on on on the floor in the hospital and where there are no Hospital beds and the rest of it for for them But need to be looked into whether wins the election Across the state not even limited to legal state alone We need for us to look at our response to emergency How do we treat people that have a margin situation situation from crashes like this situation from accidents? We need to we need to respond as quickly as possible Do you know what this party this particular issue quickly not waiting for some protocols or some Some registration process if you have taken somebody to the hospital Particularly public hospital in Nigeria you understand what I'm talking about in terms of how you are treated in terms of How to respond to you in terms of the number of hours it will take for them to really deal with the particular Issue which are brought to the hospital in case of emergency and imagine is an emergency The first step we're doing an emergency is to say is to save life say or Or all the protocol deal with the issue and then you come and deal with the protocol much more later But in our case the emphasis is more on the protocol other than administering and Medicare to to see people from losing from losing their lives. It's unfortunate But we continue to talk and hopefully we believe they will hear us. We want to undo the needful All right Looking at the punch now. Inaq falls judgment permitting temporal voter card for polls Gd. How does this make you feel? There are organs with this present. Inaq chairman, which I don't like Inaq is an is is a creation of the state Is a product of the constitution And a judiciary is a core component part of the constitution to educate on matters Of the state either between the individual and individual individual and the state And the state and the federal government or the local government the state and the federal government So the judiciary is the final bit is the is the body that is charged with interpreting So Inaq does now have an authority that supersedes that of what is judiciary decision whatever decision they take give the judiciary decide okay in the interest in the In the interest of the public you need to do this you need to do this in order for you to add An entrust public confidence in the process. You need to do this. You need to do that. You need to do that So they should understand that whatever pronouncement is made by the court They are duty bound to comply with such pronouncement and if you feel dissatisfied with that You can approach a higher court until it gets to the supreme court But you don't try to discredit the judiciary system because you want to show that you have an authority or you have a larger than live Image than what the conscience permits you to have we have seen that that some institutions institutions like nmpc Is your like Inaq it's just like cbn behaving as if they are not product of the creation Of of this of of the constitution. They are not subjected to to the to the to the instant loss process and procedure that govern this nation and there's a need for us to To to stop this and I think the courts need to be bold enough to try some people for content of courts For people for content of courts and for depth to be taken to be taken to jail because once if you don't have respect for the judiciary You do have respect for the legislature. Then we don't have a state Then we don't have a nation And that's that's just that's just that's just my my own challenge with this entire entire process Okay, jillie joseph. Yeah jillie joseph yesterday the The electoral commission put out a statement saying they're going to challenge this in court And there were three prayers the third prayer by these two Nigerians who went To enforce their rights in court was that other Nigerians eligible voters Who do not have a pvc But have the temporary voter card the tvc should be allowed to vote On saturday, but the judge joseph obiwara refused to grant that declined Granting that prayer saying that the case was not um They didn't come in a representative capacity to be able to Say, oh, please give us a judgment that will favor all of Nigerians So so but one wonders why an echo go to court to challenge This when you have only two persons who are involved only two because the legal fees and everything involved Um, uh will be much, you know one wonders that and that's so secondly. Do you think that it's possible for Maybe a human interest organization Uh, ng or a group of Nigerians to approach the court again between now and before the elections to To file a case that will be representative of all voters who don't have a pvc But are registered and captured on data, but do you think it's necessary to To to do that before What we require is that is that data captured on the database Is that data captured? I think we took their turn print and we took all other vital data in order for us to register them to participate in the process If their data is captured Why permanent temporary Those are qualifying words permanent and then temporary Voters so the most important thing is that they are voters and they are captured if they are registered voter Whether they have the permanent card or temporary card They should be allowed to vote as long as they are captured They are captured in the database of i-nec i-nec had said jillie johnson that the lord has not allowed them to to To to use to to to accept people if you don't have your your your card You must count your card to be accepted. Indeed. Remember there was a rumor A night through the presidential election of 25th february that i-nec was going to allow anyone who had The data captured and you know was in the register to vote and they came out to the bunk that say no pvc No voting, you know So in fact if you're caught you have seen on the border road by police officer and you can't show me pvc You may be arrested for for for wandering and loitering You know and but what the judge said was that what the judge said was that the section 47 subsection 1 Said voters card, but they didn't specify was pvc or tvc. So in his opinion in his wisdom That even the tvc is a voters card Coffee that's why I said it's an adjective permanent Temporary those are adjectives. The lord does not recognize adjectives now coffee if you if you have your pvc And then you are not able to Be accredited either through your term Or your image at three attempts. What happened? Would you be able to vote? No, no no No, even with the permanent voters card in your hands I am not able to successfully Be accredited either through your term print or your image at the turn that you have provided from voting The most important element is for your data to be captured. Are you a registered voter? If you're a registered voter As long as we have we have provided money for various form of technology They brought in the bimodal accreditation So if you the image of the person is captured and this is really image whether with the card or no card He should be able to vote He should as long as you are a registered voter Now coffee should I tell you as that voters list being clean? Has it been clean? Have they removed the names of those that are dead? Since 2019 to date From the voters from the voters list. I can tell you for a fact My number on the voters list is 26 The one of my late wife is 25. Her name is still on the voters list I showed my son as I see your mom. She's still on the voters list and then she died in 2019 So this this this this this drama, you know, we love this drama in this part of the world this This protocol this sticking to rules principles and what have you that have the most important thing is for you to be a registered voter If you're a registered voter The only way we know even if you come with your permanent voters card is that we check your trump print whether it matches What we have In the in the in the machine or we use your image if it is there We allow you to vote even if you have permanent voters card and we can't capture you We can't recognize your trump. You will not vote. Why do we make drama out of it? All of the guidelines that I made said they were going to follow. They didn't follow their guidelines Okay, but we didn't go to court Jide, let's also look at another issue as regards the postponement of the election You have some quarters, uh, or some persons who are saying If you look at the cost of this postponement would rather have the elections Because of the huge implication referencing what happened, you know in 2019 where we spent about 2.23 billion now if I'm not mistaken dollars, I beg your pardon You know that a lot of activities have been suspended because of this election One school have been closed All tertiary institutions have been closed two a lot of businesses have been closed three, you know the impact of rendering You know how many people that have scheduled to do something on the 18 that have to move on the 11 that have to move it from 11 to 18 And those that have rescheduled their event from the 18 that has been taken over by a national election So basically there will be a cost implication But who bears the grunt of the cost? Is there now a people? Because what is the explanation or justification for the postponement of the election? I knew more than four years ago even let's say four years ago that they were going to have an election A certain day they chose the date they chose the time And now they are postponing the election. I record the drama Why do not I postpone the election in 2015 for six weeks? I record the drama that attended that postponement In fact, it took the national council of state has to give an approval to the postponement of that election today Two days ago the INH chairman woke up and postponed the election without involving critical stakeholders in the postponement The national executive council the national council of state were not involved Elections are critical component of democratic society Nobody have access to power in a democratic governance except through the poll through through the polls you can only assess public Authority public power in democracy through the poll now you have an agency of government that is charged with that responsibility Just toying toying with with Nigerians with respect to the management of an election Understand that I mean Would you rather consider them going ahead to conduct the election with all of the You know glitches and some of the things that they have mentioned the issue of reconfiguring the beavers which requires, you know Not just the day according to INH K&R and also The issue of logistics, so should we rather go ahead with the excesses that we have in conducting the elections or Just decide to do it The right way so if INH told us In preparation to this election that they are fully prepared in case there's a runoff for the presidential election They told us that means that we are prepared for at least three elections The one the two are the national and probably one at the state level Now if you see the problem with INH is just transparency It's about not coming out clean with Nigeria. It's not about stating Stating the obvious on the onset the issue of the configuration of the beavers machine What we told earlier What we told that after every election the machines the by vote by modern machines Will be we will be configured you see and they keep introducing new rules new guidelines into The process and that's the challenge a lot of people have with it as far as elections are concerned It's about transparency. It's about coming clean. It's about telling Nigerians what you intend to do If I think I told us that at the end of every election we will configure the the model voter's accreditation System the machine using for it With Nigerians will be aware of it. They will not suspect any foul play But the situation whereby people are suspicious of your actions because of your lack of compliance with your own well written guideline you begin to Do lack of confidence public confidence in what you are doing and that's why they are running from pillar to post Running from one court to the other there shouldn't be any even courts Cases with respect to the conduct of election Because if you stick with the kind people if you stick with the guideline if you stick with the enabling law that governs your election they are They are super laws that cannot be challenged by anybody But we have a situation whereby I make we see one thing today You will see another thing tomorrow. That's why they are running from pillar to post We're out of time. We'll just quickly take your your thoughts on this just in one minute, please The bottom of the front page of the guardian one week after supreme court ruling cbn silence stokes confusion very quickly, please You know I started on the note that there are some issues that believe that they are bigger than the Nigerian state nmpc cbn and inec And I said that the courts need to be brought in this case for content of cbn should have released a statement The supreme court needs to Charge this central bank government for content They need to charge him for content If they don't get him under this administration if this administration is given in protection at least sooner than later I will soon become a private citizen Because there was no statement released to that effect and the banks are using the old note The people are not collecting the old note because they don't have confidence in it There's no statement from government either freedom either the presidency or central bank So it was just they were just silent about it and the banks are using new They were using old notes that people are not collecting that even some banks themselves are not collecting All right, uh, gd johnson senior lecturer at ijira instead of just of journalism I almost say justice because he did justice to all the topics expertly We thank you for your time and we'll look forward to having you Next week as we count down to the governorship election. Hopefully there'll be no further postponement Let me do this and we you know be done with it. Thank you very much for your time. Enjoy week May 29 so close. Why do we need to bring the election so close to the election? Why couldn't we have had this election in december or in january? Yeah, thank you very much for your time And uh, we have to regards regards to your family. I appreciate your time All right, very energetic delivery analysis by gd johnson as always is a thrill having we have more discussions ahead mercy And when we return we'll be looking at the issue of the postponement of the election cells later to have happened On saturday that would have been the 11th of march 2023 to march 18 2023 we'll talk some more when we return. Please stay with us