 So it's time to talk Gaelic games once again on Highland Radio and our National Football League preview. I'm delighted to say I'm joined by our very own Martin McHugh and from Radio O'Carry, a commentator. Tim Monaghan, gentlemen, you're welcome to Highland once again. Thank you. Thanks. Well, Martin, I hope you don't mind. We'll let the visitors go first. Well, not the visitors at the weekend. We're going to be the visitors. They're going to be the hosts. Tim Monaghan of Radio O'Carry. First of all, how much can you guys read into that one over Dublin the last day at Fuse? Obviously very little, O'Shane. You know, we came off the week before we struggled against Kildare in the second half of that game. It was the first game. It was the first competitive game for Jack O'Connor and going into, I suppose, familiar territory for Jack. So then it was a terrible night in Trilley. That game against Dublin, a pact. Of course, the big thing over the last couple of years, Trilley, you know, really grown for the Mayo games, the underlights. Likewise, the Dublin game. A huge expectancy and expectancy of a Kerry win. And the good thing about Kerry, they, you know, they put on a marker early on in that game. But Dublin seemed rather less in that game. And Kerry really took advantage of that. You know, it depends what the opposition, why you have to go out, you have to kick scores. And Kerry did that. And I saw the one positive, you know, the week before I did a post-match interview with Jack O'Connor and, you know, where the midfield off Kildare really took over in the second half of that game. The good thing this time, Dyrmen O'Connor, he's promised so much over the last couple of years that he seems to be coming of age. You can read too much into one particular game, but it's something Jack wants. He wants a settled midfield and a backup at midfield. So he had the two Nabil guys that weren't available the week before because of Nabil being involved in the Intermediate Club Championship. So that was a huge positive. But plus, I suppose a lot of guys got involved in that dirty ball around the middle of the field. And that's something, and I know Martin could allude to this as well, that you need players to have the caliber of the Paul Galvins, the Thomas Sullivan, the Daris, the Tomás O'Shaes. Jack O'Connor always had go to players, O'Shaen. And that's what he's trying to identify with this panel of players, you know. He was involved a number of them at minor level. But now they're men and what leaders, what can you do in a game when your back is to the wall? And he's looking for those sort of characters and they will be tested. They've been testing the Dublin game and likewise, they've only gone against Sunday, you know. Yeah, what's your thoughts on Kerry in 2022, Martin? What have you seen of them so far this year? And what's your thoughts ahead of the rest of the league and obviously the championship? How big a year is this for Kerry? Do you feel, given that they had big disappointments over the course of the last couple of years, Martin? Yeah, well, I think looking at Jack O'Connor always won the first year he goes in and all Ireland. And looking at so far the demise of Dublin, you'd feel like, you know, it's a great chance for Kerry to win the All Ireland. I haven't seen much difference in the style of football that they've played and everything else. And, you know, post the big thing about them is Paddy Talley going down there and what defensively coaching them defensively, how they're going to be that way. Because they're, I'm looking at taking the Dublin defence of the last, maybe what, 10 years and the Kerry defence of the last 10 years. I feel the Dublin defenders defend first and then attack where the Kerry defenders are all good footballers and they look like they all want to attack. That's the, you know, the first thing on their mind and maybe forgetting about defending about them. You know, we look at the Trone game last year. I know they missed a lot of chances Kerry and Wales, but in the end, it was three goals they conceded, two in normal time and the one next to the time that cost them the match and everything else. So, yeah, I think there's a lot of work for Jack O'Connor and that going in there. But the post is, the interesting thing from Kerry's point of view and Jack's point of view is he's played a very, very strong team in the McGrath Cup and in the two league games. And, you know, suppose we look at it, you know, suppose the David Clifford factor is always going to be massive and everything else, but one player, even in Kerry and as strong as Kerry is not going to win the All Ireland, the midfield is the other big one. And we talked about, you know, that the automatically after the Kildare game and Thomas covered it there very well, he was at the match, you know, their midfield struggled against Kildare, particularly in the second half. Then he took two lads that hadn't played, that were involved in their club and intermediate club and Kerry and put the two of them right in, into the into the match, the big match against Dublin, you know, who Dublin normally be strong in the middle of the field. So, we look at it, will he get his midfield right? Where does David Morn stand in the middle of the field? He's been one of the best midfielders in Ireland to slash wild, but I think it's about 34 years of age. You know, can he carry on everything else? So, midfield is going to be very important for them to to win that battle, how their defence goes and everything else. And suppose the big question is, there's been a couple of games, and Tim would know this a lot better than me, in the last three years that they probably should have won. And normally Kerry teams in the past would have got over the line. We had the Turrone game last year, we had the Mayo match, and you know, we had the Dublin final when Dublin were down to 14 men, and I thought they should have won them matches, and they didn't get over the line. So, yeah, a lot of question marks about Kerry and everything else, but you still would say with a bunch of players they haven't, and everything else, so I think you'd have to class them with the way Dublin's going at the minute. Do you have to class them as favourites for the All-Ireland? Is Jack O'Connor the right man in place now, Tim, to, I suppose, make these wrongs right, or be part of this Kerry setup that gets them over the line, and won games that they should have won? Is Jack O'Connor the right man at the right time now? Look, there was a lot of controversy at the time when Jack came in in the sense that the way it was dead to us, and now that's all we hope is buried, but the one thing about Jack, and likewise, Jack knows when he has material at the time he got involved with Kerry, he sees something, and maybe something that he will get the best out of. Yeah, when I look around the county, you know, they name all these names, but you're going back to going with a track record second to none in recent decades with Kerry, so that was the big thing about Jack O'Connor coming back, but as Martin says there, there's a lot of question marks, you know, down here in Kerry there's a huge expectancy, every year there's an expectancy, but I suppose because of our tradition that, you know, you're out there and you should be at the business end, and hopefully bring back Sam Aguirre, so, and it's interesting there, Martin mentioned Paddy Talley, the thing with the last couple of years that we were below against Cork in Pocky Cave during COVID, and again that we expected we were playing the Division III team, we should have won, and suddenly we went very defensive and invited Cork onto us, turned into Dogfight, what happens? Cork get a goal and beat us, and that's the disappointment down here in Kerry that, you know, say a few of a full forward line of Paul Ganey, Tony Ross in the other corner, and David Clifford in full forward, and it really nice people to see them playing behind their half back line when we're under pressure, and we're obviously inviting teams onto us, which we've done actually against Doney Gaw in the past, I think the last time we played Doney Gaw was in 2020 down here, and I think Doney Gaw kind of the pedal off the metal that day because they were preparing for Tyrone two weeks later in the championship, so a lot of people question the style of football, and Jack, and he knows himself that you'll invite pressure onto yourself as a manager, Kerry public requires a certain style of football, they think we're most comfortable when we attack, and I know Martin said there we have conceded goals, but a lot of it is where we've invited teams onto us, that if we kept pinning teams back and pressing up high that we get results, so there's a lot of things factoring in if I can be understood in that way with Kerry in the sense that the supporters play a big, big part here in Kerry, and part of it is the style of football we've been playing, but Jack has gone for Paddy Telli, Paddy Telli, and we know he's very defensive in his ways, but can we counter attack then in a certain way? You look at Dublin, when Dublin were dominant, Dublin always left Bernat Brogan, Paul Mannion and other players, not more than 35-40 meters out from the opposition goal, so if a ball was turned over they didn't outball, but suddenly when Kerry are trying to play this, again this alien to us that a lot of bodies behind the ball and we've no outballed, so it'd be interesting how Jack would get that balance right, Oshin. From a Kerry point of view, what sort of game are you expecting against Donegal at the weekend, Tom? I expect, first of all I expect him to probably now is the time to try out other players as well, no we've been very partial, we seem to have found without putting pressure on the man, he's Dan O'Donnell who he sees from the ball club here in Killarney, and he seems to be a fine something, you know, this no-nonsense defender, so he's looking at different individuals as well, as well as putting a structure in place and and now I told him I want to see what the structure of the system of Paddy Talley, will that be a non-bone process where we can see bodies behind the ball and and you know the counter-attack, and I know Martin probably have heard Ambrose in the past, Ambrose, I don't know as Martin alluded to that we have a lot of attack in half-backs and even cornerbacks and if we're saying our forwards are as good as they are we seem to be clogging up space when we come forward and that's something one-on-one we have dangerous forwards and sometimes with all the backs that want to attack we seem to go into cul-de-sacs and it'll be interesting to see will we play the open spaces of Fitzgerald Stadium and that and I suppose to build, I suppose that's what Jack O'Connor is trying to do to build on the success against Dublin as well as find out these characters that I say he's looking for that you know guys that live on the edge, four or five players that will do things for the winning of the game and you know as Ambrose would tell you like too many nice fellas don't win your game you have to have guys you know that that work so hard for the team will do things take one for the team and they are the characters and we've seen the teams have been successful over the last couple of years O'Shane that they have those players in abundance and that's something that's probably lacking in Kerry's since the you know the change over there they were big numbers to lose that time the Darrow Shades, the Paul Gallows and the Thomas O'Shane they were all around the same time and to replace they were they were winners and to replace that sort of winning mentality that's what Jack is looking for you know. Yeah Colarney Martin we almost be Kerry in 2018 and Colarney a late score and the match by Kerry gave them victory there there was three players the things sent off on that day so it it could turn out to be a good hunting ground for for Dunnegal this weekend. If Kerry play like the way Tim is suggesting yes Dunnegal are down bodies Martin but can they run Kerry close this weekend? Well it's interesting what Tim was saying there about forwards backs going forward and crowding out the forward line I've been given out to Bethat and Dunnegal that that's what we're basically doing in Dunnegal maybe it's the modern day coaching and what they want to you know some people say keep teams honest and all this here and push up and to me it's the exact same as Tim has said it's crowding it out on players and when you've got quality forwards what Dunnegal would have as well I think the more space you leave for them the better and you know keep defenders as defenders if you can you've enough going forward from Minfield up but I think you know we probably have a bad record in Kerry I think I don't know I'm not 100% sure I was on the last team that actually beat Kerry down in Kerry in a famous game I think it was 1988 or something Tom Conan was managing Dunnegal and Mick Woodware was managing Kerry and maybe we did one since that ocean I'm not 100% sure down there but I always remember that game and it was a famous game there was a toss a coin and Tom Conan won the toss and we were wearing the green and gold at him we got the green and gold and Kerry were wearing blue and the one used to it and actually Patsbaland passed the ball to a Dunnegal player and we ended up getting through and scoring a goal that day and that won us a match down in Kerry so that was a big achievement us at the time and it was great you know you know we're kind of moving up the divisions at that stage and we're trying to you know that was probably a big big thing and give us a lot of confidence and going down to Kerry and getting a victory there so you know it's a great place to go and get get a get a victory or anything else but as Tyrone found out last year you can go down there too and get a good hammer down there too if they get on top of you and everything else and Tom was saying they're trying out other players and everything else and that's maybe not a good thing for Dunnegal that would be better if they're putting out the boys that are normally playing on the team and everything else but I think it's a it's a game that suppose when Dunnegal sat down the start of the year is one they didn't expect to get they don't expect to get two points from and everything else so anything you get back up as a bonus but there's no pressure on Dunnegal going down Kerry or favorites and everything else and you know it's hard to beat you know putting yourself against the best and that's the Kerry or the Dublin's in this world and that's when you know as a player particularly a younger player you know where you're at and everything else when you do that and I'm looking forward to it you know two very very good footballing teams and hopefully as Tom said earlier on maybe off air if the conditions are we're not expecting a good weekend but hopefully by Sunday the conditions will be better better than they will maybe Saturday or Friday and Saturday sorry but I'm looking forward to it I'm really looking forward to see some of the young Dunnegal players the Connor O'Donnells, Shane O'Donnells and these type of players how they do against the likes of of the Kerry players the Kerry defense and everything else so yeah all you need and what you want out of it and Tom has said it before, Kerry one of you we're no different Dunnegal we need pluses out of it we need to get ready for the championship and I think Tom and I would say this I think it's a big help to Kerry this year because with the monster champions and everything else and then they're getting you know there maybe that's why Jack's playing big teams in every game that he's playing this year maybe his full team because he's getting ready for the championship and everything else and you don't have that big a test with no disrespect to the teams in months you know that big a test so I think this whole thing of a quick turnover from league to championship I believe will actually the team most it will help is Kerry going forward so they'll be ready when they land in Crow Park if we look at when they played Turone last year Turone had played Kevin who were the Ulster champions they played Dunnegal everyone up there with the favourites you know one Ulster's last couple of years and they played Monahan who are all two division one teams they were ready for that match but maybe Kerry weren't actually ready for it but I think this year that system the new system there will actually help Kerry Tom absolutely and there's substance in what you say there Martin if I was to go back to the Turone you know that tobacco we were on about you know because COVID they couldn't play us when they should be playing us even for that extra week that we were giving them for the first you know the ref fixture everyone in Kerry the Kerry camp fell they were going to hit the ground running because that was the time they were hitting it and I reckon if we met Turone we should have met them we'd have beaten them and that's been honest because what happened then you were waiting an extra two weeks and guys and you know well Martin from New York playing days you you you build yourself up to hit the ground running at a certain time you trained like Mikotovar you trained to yourself to be fit for his training sessions and then those training sessions were to hit that ground on a Sunday so I felt that was two weeks more and Kerry went flat and we were caught now there was a huge expectancy in the county but that too because it's gone it's meticulous now in your preparation it's like the guy training for the Olympics 100 meters final you don't give it all in the first round heat and that was what's what happened Kerry and I genuinely to this day think that if we met him when we were supposed to we'd have beaten Turone we probably would have won the All-Ireland that's me and I think the exact same way because the season is so compact and so tight that you're talking about like the Samogwale being somebody's house come the 25th of July somewhere in the country and this is how tight it is that and that's the big thing I think the leak has taken on a huge profile ads and not just for building I remember and you know that martin there was times there was a social aspect to the league gone back decades ago and where you were preparing and you'd winter well and come January and February you'll talk out for me called the wire and he'd probably look at you and he'd say a lot of work to be done here and you already come the first round the chapter would probably would be well into May that time so it's totally different it's gone to a different level it's evolved and because you want to be the business end of and that's why you think it means a lot for two don't go and carry the Sunday that you want to be the business end and that quick turnaround straight into get and there's not worse that and we have that problem in monster with the last memory but all due respect I'm sure that they're common if not if they're not here already the likes of the cocks of this world there was no challenge in monster and suddenly you'll meet a team in the heat of the chapter that have come out of Ulster and after playing three or four games against top level teams and they were well ahead of us because we haven't done that you know haven't had those challenges and and in your dead right we would expect the season this to to benefit carry in some way with that quick turnaround and and I totally agree with what you said there Mark would it be a disappointing year and a huge disappointment to carry if that's Sam McGuire wasn't in carry come July Tom you know I suppose when you're younger you're saying oh you won't carry there every year but you know it's all about you know are you good enough have you the material and we seem to have the material look Jack didn't come in for a five-year plan you know oh Shane Jack was brought in to win in all Ireland the winning in all Ireland carry is everything else is put aside and sometimes maybe that's part of our failure that sometimes we take the eye off a certain ball elsewhere but that that's the pressure it hasn't changed down here and Jack was brought in to win in all Ireland with this group of players and we'd expect over you know you go back to 2019 I reckon we should have beaten Dublin in the drawing game and one guy and I remember Jack O'Shaige on an interview I think it was on the Friday night on the build-up and he said pound for pound we probably won't match Dublin but we have one prayer that if they can handle him and that you know he was at top of his game coming on being an impact and that was Tommy Walsh the Dublin the ball was sticking well because of his physicality and guys could feed off him and we could have popped over pines but we left it too late to bring him on so that was one as as far as we were concerned that got away from us again during the middle of COVID we were saying we should have beaten Kirk down in Kirk and there was an expectancy there to win then last year was a kind of a shamans toward the end of the season purely because and it wasn't in anybody's making and it's the way things happened the COVID card was played by Tyrone and you know obviously they had problems in the camp but it worked into their advantage so that's it and you know the biggest part of this these guys fair enough they're 23-24 years of age now the the Shawnee O'Shaige, the David Cliffords, the Darren Minons of this world and we feel now that these these guys are men and it would be a chance lost if we weren't at the business end we've no divine right O'Shaige to win the All Ireland but there's a huge expectancy we've been away too long and Sam Aguirre has been away too long as far as the supporters is concerned and you know we're talking about this famous minor team you know the the five in a row that players should have come off it O'Sheenan and fair enough a number of players have come off it and maybe we had really good players on that team the David Cliffords and the Shawnee O'Shaige, Marco Connor who's gone to Australia and because their performances alone won us games and maybe we're looking we should have more players off it but when you we've David Clifford kicked 4-4 in the All Ireland final at minor level that could cover a lot of cracks in the team and have we the players good enough now is the chance for guys to put up their hand and our county champion was really competitive this year and there you have some of the stacks there's you've Greg Horn coming in there I know Joe O'Connor the president Kerry captain is out injured you know at the moment we have players coming through Steffen Uckensburg of course the Niguel player that was playing down under he's there but unfortunately there's four or five injuries there we're carrying the camp at the moment so hopefully they'll they'll come together in the next couple of weeks but look all I'd say is that Jack O'Connor was brought in to win the All Ireland this year and any shot I suppose any sharpness of of winning that will be deemed a failure in Kerry yeah okay let's go back to the game that's taking place this weekend Martin he mentioned the likes of David Clifford he scored 4-4 and in All Ireland final how does Donnie Gaul deal with David Clifford and how does Donnie Gaul deal around the middle of the park which was mentioned earlier as well Tim did say that the Jack's trying out in and around the middle of the park which will be vital come Sunday so how does Donnie Gaul deal with all these elements yeah well I think you know just driving through the county and talking to people in the county the majority of people said we're going to Kerry and we're going down to see David Clifford so that's just how good he is people just want to see him in the flesh and see him playing and you know he's a unbelievable player I think he reminds me of all the great players that played Gilly football and I think the big thing in them was the Morris Fitzgeralds even the Peter Canovans the David Cliffords and the Matt Connor I would remember him if he used men wouldn't remember Matt Connor but if they get the ball in their hands that's trouble and that's it they're they're you're in big trouble it doesn't matter how many players you want them if they get the ball in their hands and Clifford's one of them players and he showed it even the last night for UL you know he was well marked by the the Kildare fallback he did a good enough job on him and he has put ended up one in the game because he got five balls or so in his hands and what he does with them so we'll ask you to answer your question you have to stop the supply if you can at all and you know get get you know I'm going to go back to the game in 2020 Martin and the 2019 it was was at the super eights that we played Kerry Stephen McMeneman had a very very good game on David Clifford that day in Croke Park yeah that's fair enough point and Stephen's coming back but Stephen's coming back from injury and Clifford's what so many years older now I mean he's a lot lot better player now than he was then but it's a big task for anybody to mark him you know you say to yourself if you hold him to what about three points from play I think you'd be doing really well I think that's what you have to say and a player of that quality and if you can do that give a chance that's what I feel about but he listened quality and he's big as well which makes a big difference in the modern game and his two feet his right foot looks to be as strong as his left so it's great if Kerry's playing anybody else you love watching him and love seeing what he's doing and everything else but he's quality and he is worth you know the money to go to see him playing anywhere because even he's playing tonight for UL in the final and there'll be a lot of people all over the country glued to to watch him and you know I think somebody said Sean Kelly the Galway captain might end up marking him tonight so it's going to be a difficult job for anybody but I think that that looking at it is that I think is important thing is to stop the supply and the midfields going to be very important but I think Kerry are happy with their midfield performance that they had the last day against Dublin now Donny Gull is going to be a different test in the middle of the field for them Donny Gull have always been strong enough in the middle of the field you know be happy enough with with our midfield we're playing and I know we'll make a line in play or not but he'd be important cog in that area will Jason McGee be available or not and that area you've Keelan McGonagall who's playing well in that area so we've got players in that area so it'll be good that'll be good test it'll be young young lads against each other in that area so the midfield will be very important so to want that I'll make a big difference because he's still feeling that we'd still feel that our full forwarding will cause the Kerry fall back clean plenty of problems if we get enough possession in that area so yeah if Stephen McMenna is available it'll be a great out battle again to see him he did really really well in Crow Park that day on David Clifford there's no doubt about it and we know how Tiger's your player and he's been a big miss to Donny Gull and you know as he back how fit he is in everything else and will it be fair to put him to put him on David Clifford to that there but you're looking at the other two Kerry forwards they're not that far behind Clifford and everything else but I think Tim made a great point which is important in the modern game is the Kerry players and Paul Galvin was probably the unsung hero and they don't have maybe that type of player that Kerry are missing at the minute and it's very important as something maybe in Donny Gull we might have a lot of naturally talented footballers as well and not enough of the type of players that will one the dirty ball and pick up that ball which is important where we always say about our neighbours and Tarone most of them all are capable capable of doing that and we'll do as as Tim said earlier on whatever it takes for the team to one a match so that's why we're looking forward to it and everything else in a league match and you know hopefully you never know we could meet down the road again in a big championship game well just looking at the other games briefly obviously both sets of players have already played Kildare. Tim will go to you and this one Kildare making the trip to play Tarone. Tarone of course drew their opening match suffered defeat at the hands of Armagh. Is this another game that Kildare can can cause a shock on? Yeah possibly and especially I think they have to serve that one match suspension as well those four players that are out and Kildare again are starting from actually their backroom team is unbelievable and obviously those guys you know bring a lot to the table so the one thing I saw they were dogged no new bridge that day against Kerry it's a tight pitch and they really worked that and and you know I could go back to Kerry again Kerry went lateral so it was into the hands then of the likes of Flynn in the middle of the park for Kildare to break at pace and that's where they caused us the the biggest problems you know that day with Sherlock up front and Kildare have a huge expectancy from this season that in their development and they they'd hope to give it they can see Dublin as well you see and I think that's the carrot and I don't know if Martin agrees with me that Dublin I know Dublin haven't gone away but they have come back to the field and that gives everyone a chance in lister so if you can build on these games and especially I'd say they look at themselves we're fortunate to be playing in division one and that's where you know more than likely the all-out winner will come out of division one and we to be huge shock if it didn't so this is a chance again for them to put on a marker Kildare they have a lot of learning to do a lot of structure but they will give themselves and especially you have to take advantage of those points and if they see the Tyrone are missing players they'll try and take advantage of that and if you turn it into a dogfight and that's something I haven't seen in Kildare with years you know and you know we've said about the dirt they were winning the dirty ball you know I think you need badness and I mean in badness in within the rules to win a game and in that game in Newbridge Ocean the badness came from Kildare and when I say the badness winning that dirty ball stopping players sometimes we can be cynical who are when we're commenting we can call it a cynical tackle but they did what they had to in the second half you know to take the game to carry and that's something you can manufacture it you have to find players that are capable of doing it and know when to do it and that came from Kildare that day and it's something I've never seen in the DNA of Kildare before and they did what they had to get you know we share the smiles but to get what they could out of the game and it really showed the second half of that game you know Martin will there be much badness within the rules between Dublin and Mayo this weekend one of the standouts out ties and both sides will be very eager to get into each other and that one it could be a real cracker so it could in Saturday yeah it could be in Saturday in Crow Park and you know looking at it Mayo picked up two very important points against Mono in the last game then they got the point against Doney Gulles they've got they have the three points got so the pressure's off them I think Dublin need they need they need they need the they need the victory in this year and I expect Dublin in Crow Park and we'll also come out on top let's maybe talk will Conor Callan be back this weekend or not will Dean Rock start and having us they still have a lot of players in Dublin I think it's time to say they haven't gone away they have a lot of players there maybe they end up on the championship comes around the pressure a bit of pressure and everything else is off them we're really looking forward to seeing them what to be like particularly later later on later on the league and everything else but Mayo from the point of view the two great victors considering you know they've been very very unlucky with injuries Mayo every year they've lost a big player to injuries killing a Conor last year and then this year Tommy Conroy you know not picking up you know small injured but them out even more six or seven weeks they've gone for the year and everything else so very very unfortunate way but they'll still keep back then keep keep keep the you know the Mayo are always hard to beat nothing else and they'll be there there about when it comes down to it and they end up and you know I'm looking forward to it and really looking forward to seeing Dublin on Saturday night to see what what they're like and you know in Crow Park they were you know very disappointed against our man the first game in Crow Park but our ma would have a lot of work done or Dublin didn't have that work done nothing else so that made a big difference so I'm looking forward I expect a Dublin a Dublin victory a Dublin victory in that game okay then Martin how you team up our ma against Monahan our ma certainly have been the the find in division one the form team in division one will they carry that into Saturday evening against it against the Farnyman this is the big game this is really I think going to be the big game of the weekend this is going to be you know our ma were disappointed to be beaten in the semi-final last year by Monahan and everything else and there's great out rivalry and they met in the McKenna Cup uh uh McKenna Cup match and it went to I went to penalties and they end up so they're not much between them uh pressure on Monahan because they didn't get the two points against me oh our ma have been flying everything else and I just have a sneak in feeling for Monahan in this match I just uh I know it's not letting ground to everything else and our ma'll be favours and the else but I just think Monahan will run at our ma and teams that run her at our ma I still think causes them problems and everything else and uh you know it's going to be it's going to be a big physically tough battle around the middle of feeding everything else but really it's a game I'm looking forward I'd love to be able to go to see anything else I just was feeling that maybe Monahan could one this match okay just moving in briefly Martin to Division two Donny Gull of course have one of the longest tracks of the year heading to Kerry on Sunday uh Cork are going to make one of the longest trips of the year as well they're heading north to play Derry in uh the third round of Division two Rory Gallar is Derry two ones from two but they expect Cork to be the toughest test yet for them probably isn't everything else but uh uh I still expect Derry to one at home I think Derry are a common team with a lot of talent and they've had a lot of success at underage and Derry and uh you know we see Steelestone even one in the club champion the club uh the club intermediate club and everything else so Derry are on the up and uh I expect Derry at home to one I think looking at the league matches actually you know we look at a lot of home advantage is a big thing and we know Tom talks about Kildare drawn with Kerry in in uh the new bridge but they were very disappointed we were at the match against Dulley Gull and everything else we you know most a lot of games are won at home and only oh went to Monahan had a good victory and everything else but Tarone were beaten by our man I think home advantage is a big advantage and I I just think Derry at home and the way they're going everything else and expect Chrissy McCake to be back he missed the awfully game and everything else and to go down to awfully and beat them by 13 points down and awfully there they're on a mission definitely to get out of that division I think you have to one every match because a field I don't think Cork will be in it and the promotion race I think it will come the promotion race will come down between between uh Galway, Roscommon and Derry so I think it's important that each of them teams they play each other uh keep on and everything else so I know I think Cork are rebuilding with a new management in there and everything else so I expect Derry to win that option okay then let's go back to our feature game on Sunday full live match commentary of course here on Highland from Fitzgerald stadium Calarney Kerry played Dulley Gull throws in at 145 will be live from 130 with Ryan Ferri and Martin McHugh the commentary team this weekend so Tim how you calling this one at the weekend can we expect a game similar to what took place the last time they met where Kerry won easy or is there a 120 a piece on the yards like what was in a crook park previously I think ocean I go with the latter I you know as I said earlier when we met in October was the 2020 I think there was a bigger fish to fry than Kerry because they were looking at the Ulster championship Doney Gull and you know as I said earlier that you know if you could pick up some a pint along the way our two pints along the way it's bonus territory because there is an expectancy on the teams playing at home to win so I think it will be a lot closer than people think I know there's injuries with both parties but again I wouldn't be reading too much into the Dublin game with Kerry Dublin look rather less and I know they haven't gone away but one thing if I can allude to it that particular evening I was looking Dizzy Farrell after 15 minutes his body language he didn't know what happened do you know what I mean he was looking down on the ground he was right underneath us where we were doing the commentary Ambrose and myself and he was in front of the dugouts and you know if that that was only 15 minutes into the game and it was kind of worrying from a from a Dublin aspect like I say that you know that particular game the game was gone from them after 20 minutes or so this will be different the wide open expanses of Fitzgerald Stadium it's been a fortress for championship games Ocean but we've lost some league games there over the years as well so to be there's no hiding places a bit like Croke Park there's no hiding places in Fitzgerald Stadium so and that's and this drama this is all about it's a learning curve but you've to learn fast and I hope that from both sides points of view Dunigal will recognize their younger players they're coming of age these guys could do a job in the championship that's what we're looking for on Sunday so look we're looking for a home win but we're also looking for the structure of the system the carrier plane and are we going to let forwards be forwards and that's that that's the big question on every Kerry supporter because Martyn Lewis David Clifford box office as he said he's been tonight for UL against NUIG and we also have party Clifford we didn't mention him to me he's the best find since now Declan O'Sullivan was a serious footballer as you well know Martyn playing on the 40th for Kerry and we haven't had to sent the forward to be fair like him since now I know Shawnee O'Shea we're trying to meet midfield and now he might be in the 40th but look at the this is one player I know you'll be looking for David a lot of supporters this guy when he gets a ball and not not every player playing in the county does it nowadays he looks up what's on he take hasn't tightened solar to himself step back and creates that opening you know and that's we're looking for the the foot pass and the Kerry football and a lot of people are going to see party Clifford and so look I'd hope that Kerry you know put my Kerry hat scrape over and get you know that that badly needed point at home for going forward but I expect a huge challenge from the from the Doney Gull side and I think that he'll be a lot closer than people think you know no Michael Murphy's was said this weekend Martin McHugh can Doney Gull get a point in Calarney at least a point in Calarney because if that was to happen that would be a huge point for the season so it would yeah it would be a huge huge point in the end of it I can't see Doney Gull getting anything in Calarney you know I think the important thing that a Doney Gull going to Calarney this weekend is you know as you said without Michael Michael Murphy and depending on a few other players maybe they picked up Knox or maybe playing either I think that we local it is you know it's it's we're we're on a learning curve in a way with the young lads a lot of young lads coming into the set of and everything else and I think that's important and the big one will be how we cope with the party Clifford's how we cope with the David Clifford's how we cope with the Sean O'Shaes and everything else and if we pick up something from that that from my point of view is if we pick up something from you know players that quality haven't showed that they can that they can compete with these lads and put them on the back foot and everything else I think that'll be the important thing and I think I think for about a Doney Gull point of view I think it'll be very important I know there'll be a big carry crowd there you know we saw the atmosphere at the Dublin game and I mean even though it's wet and everything else and the crowd was in very early there's going to be a massive carry crowd there and everything else we'll have to try to sidelan the crowd early on by maybe one in the throw one which will be very very very very important to one in the throw one and everything else it's just you know it's just listening to uh was it Connelly Gilligan doing an interview last night and he was just saying about you know simple things they worked on in extra time and the big thing was to one the throw one and they won both throw ones because they figured out in extra time whoever wins the ball has the ball for maybe two minutes and makes a big difference and they won the two throw ones because they worked really really hard in doing that and I think they've got a point of both so I think just simple things out there I think it's important that down that we get a start and we don't concede a goal particularly early on and everything else but it's a big task for Doney Gull for what's going to be a young Doney Gull team but and they end up you know there's no pressure on them and everything else I feel and I think if we get getting someone out we get Steve McMenham and you talked about back on the field be important own band gallery big game the last day you know Michael Lang and going well will Jason McGee be fit to play in everything else and we've got you know I feel two exciting players and Shane O'Donnell Connelly down or up front to help support the other the other players up there when we'll have Osheen Lang and back and you know will Jamie Brennan be fit to come back in everything else so look at you're getting ready down the road the important thing is staying division one the other thing is you're getting ready down the road this is not a game I would say we would have targeted the Declan and the management team would have targeted and everything else they won't say that themselves out loud and everything else but I feel it'll be important always to get something out of it and everything else now we look at it Taron went down and got hammered in a league match and we saw what they got out of it so you never know what you get out of a league game and everything else that can be totally different so from from from the point of view of thing I think it's important we get a good performance in Doney Gull and you know we get to see Kerry up front and everything else be important down the road but I expect to carry Victor Osheen. Okay we look forward to Martin McHugh a Highland radio match analyst and Tim Moynihan commentator with radio Kerry many thanks for joining us today to look ahead to the big game this weekend. Thank you, thanks Osheen. See you Tim. Thanks lads.