 Hi there, I'm Caitlin Hossam and we are here at Bradford Woods in Martinsville, Indiana talking about goat grazing. So I've always loved goats and I used to work at a dairy, a small dairy operation and that's kind of where my love for goats really was born and decided I wanted them to be part of my life. So a couple of years ago I got goats of my own and started thinking, what can I do with these goats? So I have received a SAIR grant to explore goat grazing as a tool to remove or reduce invasive plants and that's kind of what we're out here doing today. So we're here at Bradford Woods and we have a fenced in acre and a third and we are trying to answer a few questions. First what will the goats eat? Second how well do they eat it or what's the impact that grazing has on these plants? So tracking changes over time, what's the short term and the long term benefit or impact? And also what is the best goat to land ratio when doing something like this? The second part of the grant is kind of telling folks that goat grazing is an option to remove or reduce your invasive plant problem and also helping those folks who might be interested in doing this as a business. The project calls for 10 goats to be out here on an acre and a third and I realize that that's kind of too big of a space for 10 goats so we're experimenting with what size paddock is the perfect size for 10 goats saying how quickly they can clear it by clear I mean you know five six feet and down that's what a goat can reach. So how quickly they can clear it in a reasonable amount of time thinking if you were going to be doing this as a business you want to clear something as fast as you can so yeah the idea is that all the vegetation about five six feet and down will be gone and it would be but we want to make sure that we do it in an efficient way so that's kind of part of the experiment here.