 Okay, hello everyone and welcome to this morning's class. We'll pray and then we'll continue We'll talk about the supernatural and how to really flow in it. So let me begin with the word of prayer Heavenly Father, we thank you that Lord You have filled us with your love and your power as Your disciples Lord we pray that Lord in everything That we do that our life example will be According to the fullness Lord of what we are meant to walk in So father, I just pray that each of us Lord every single one of us will have that experience father to walk in the fullness of Lord Your Blessings father God we give you. Thanks. We give you praise in Jesus name. We pray amen Okay Okay, so we'll continue Sure So in the last class we talked about the spiritual realm and the awareness of the spiritual realm even though we are People who live in the natural realm. We must understand that there are two realms really in which we are functioning and We could it's important to understand how some of the laws of the spiritual realm operate. So when we Follow those those laws then there is an impact on the natural realm, right? so all that we discussed we said things like faith or Obedience to God's instruction like giving All of that there's a principle behind that and it it operates So from the spiritual our natural realm is impacted our natural circumstances and situations are impacted so we need to Recognize that there is a possibility of this happening and also know how to operate so that we can make that Impact very real in the natural realm. So one portion that We left out in the last class is to be aware when we are saying that the supernatural realm right Exists there are also angels or heavenly hosts that who are assigned differently, right in in the supernatural realm So the Bible also teaches us about, you know, these these angels coming and ministering And that's nothing abnormal in the Bible. So we know there were places where messenger angels were sent you had angel go up to Mary or an angel, you know go up to other people in Scripture and then like Philip just go up to them and give them a message. So even in our Lives, we can have angelic intervention, right? That's also supernatural. Isn't it all of this is There in scripture just that when we hear about it we We need a believing heart To receive it and to actually be able to see things manifest, right in our own lives So regarding angels The Bible teaches us that they are spirits who are sent to assist us or aid us We read about that in Hebrews chapter 1 and verse 14 that angels are Serving spirits, okay, and they will come and assist People of God or those who are born again They'll assist them, but how will they minister? We also have to consider we said, right? There there are laws in the spiritual realm now We cannot go against the law and expect things to work out. So when it comes to angels We can't command them around We can't say, okay angel you have to do this or angel you have to do that And I'd say I don't know if you remember, but when we talked about this in some first-year subject Mentoring are really I only don't remember. Okay Yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, okay fine sure. Yeah, so no the example which I usually use is like, you know how We are all so spiritual Right, so we spiritualize everything so we could even say something like oh my house is a mess But yeah, a few angels will come and you know, they'll clean it up The angels will fold the clothes or they'll sweep the house, but I'm sorry We can't get them to do whatever we want them to do Because that's not how they work while they are serving spirits and we expect them to come and Serve us in the ministry They move as per the voice of the Lord and that's what scripture says. So Psalm 103 and verse 20 Tells us that that they heed the voice of the Lord. So what will they do? They will do according to what God is saying, which is why? Declarations are very powerful. Why because what is a declaration? You're saying what God is saying Isn't it? So when we declare that, you know, the Lord's protection is is Around me or the Lord intervenes in my situation. What am I doing? I'm just declaring what God is saying Then angels get activated. So declarations are a way in which angels can actually get We just use the word activated But it simply means that they have to now obey because that is what God is saying and that's their duty That's how they have been You know designed and Delegated so When we talk about the supernatural realm, it's it's huge The many things that exist in the supernatural realm, you know, you have God God's authority you have the You know truth of his word and how his word works How faith operates several spiritual dynamics even heavenly hosts That are part of the the supernatural world, but the whole point of discussing these matters is that we as believers need to see that Overriding I think I use that word in my last class the supernatural overriding the natural Okay, to be able to believe it and to learn how to walk in it These are the key things So believing it we already said that there are a lot of struggles We people are not clear and so believing is hard sometimes Even if we believe that these things are real will it happen in my life there we struggle So believing it is is a challenge and then knowing the laws by which we must operate That also is is something see we may believe but if we are not operating in faith Then how can it work? How can the mountain be moved because we never operated in faith? So there is a right way of engaging also which we must learn Okay, so this is a little bit about the spiritual realm any any thoughts any questions? Yeah They come in a human form Same like us and just give what we need to give our help and then later when we turn back They won't be there they disappear Yeah, there are also some videos like that So is it like when we told them angelic encounter? Is it like they come in a human form and we have a Or is it like how they are made? Okay, so see Angelic interventions of your first question was does it happen today, right? Because we hear these stories So there's nothing in the word of God that says that it's not meant to happen Because in the book of Acts you see Lot of such manifestations where angels come and in the book of Hebrews again the writer says angels are Ministering spirits that says this option is there Okay, God works like this also Okay, if we believe we can see Angels man, you know presenting themselves and doing what God is telling them to do that is one thing Second thing is in human form, right? Hmm Yeah Correct. So see temporarily angels can take Yeah, like perceptibly human form we now we don't know exactly what in the form it seems like a human So that can happen because in the life of Abraham, there were many angelic visitations They came they ate with Abraham or even the Sodom and Gomorrah lot right in the case of lot They came they stayed with lot. So yeah, they can take you it seems like human appearance also No, you don't see such examples no possession like as a spirit know come and possess no you don't see that Yeah Even do a certain place called Mark up run. So he the whole Villages with thieves only so when he went to preach there everyone were Opposing him so these everyone these guys plan to kill him So he was staying in a in a place when he was sleeping. These guys went to kill him. So there will be 12 Like soldiers and they have wings They did that well people can literally see that there's well soldiers just Name so but he can see the pastor can see but the people who they after that They came to the pastor and they were telling I I saw some soldiers around you in the night. Yeah, the whole village got Transformed. Okay, great. Yeah, it's possible and and see these stories when we hear these stories Yeah, of course, you know Like if it's coming from a sincere person whom you can trust it's likely that these things have happened Okay, so I mean I have a story of my own also But then I don't know whether others might take it as an angelic Visitation or something but it's like this is the only time I've seen Okay, and what happened was I was traveling from After my studies, I was just traveling back home, but I made a transit in in one particular place So in that transit actually my bag was not supposed to come with me because I have a whole year's luggage 25 kgs of luggage. So when I was making that transit, I'll just cut a long story short It was very difficult for me because I had gone to visit I already planned that visit to my friend's place So I landed in the city in that city. I had to go to the bus stop from the bus stop go to another city Okay, I with my luggage Yeah, all the luggage I imagine when I went to the bus stop. It was so steep with steps So there only I struggled like I carried that my laptop bag everything went up to book the ticket Somehow I booked the ticket dragged my luggage and then the bus station. No is again down like steep Lot of steps and this time at least outside. They've built it with stones But inside the bus station they built it with this, you know metal steps are there, right? Sometimes they just put that thing. It's not so strong also like that But a big one going down and very steep. I just stood there and I was like Jesus I'm alone with this bag. How am I gonna go down? Please help me. That's all I said the next thing I know is There's a guy. He just came he pushed me He took my bag and he's very full white and he's just running down the steps and I ran behind him I was like, that's my bag. That's my bag. Like, you know, don't take my bag and go. He just ran down And I was thinking somebody is taking my bag and running away right in another place So frantically ran behind him went down He went down and my concentration was only on that bag So then I got my bag and he's gone. I Don't know I don't know I really don't know I can't find them But see for me, it is very I can't forget this because I stood there and I prayed I was like Lord I'm alone. How will I go down? I'm just thinking not thinking. He's a man fully white Okay, he comes How did he look also? I didn't notice a human being a human being wearing full white like, you know, like a Doti and like a kurta. Yeah, like very very loose clothes I see I don't know now people can argue with me and say no, it was just a nice, you know Good Samaritan who came and helped you maybe I don't know but for me in that moment, whatever happened was like You know, it really kind of ministered to my spirit And yeah, finally I took the bus. So that was my only experience But I don't I've not had any other He he thought of Taking a bike ride and crashing one lari or one and committing suicide as he's going on the way One person was stopped him and asked for lift and he was taking him all over the place And he take him to exact his house and he thought this is that is the house and he showed him His house to go And he get down and when you saw the house and when he looked back nobody was there. Yeah, possible Hmm. Yeah, yeah Yeah, sure See, it's like in our daily lives That's what I mean. We are in two realms and We know this possibility exists, but then It needs to manifest, no The same example we can be unaware of an angelic visitation that we already have If we take if it if the visitation has Happened in a human form Like we might not know we have thought of them as a just normal Yeah possible very possible so I reminded one more full of stories this Yeah, so the other story is like my sister was traveling Like her on-site thing so she had gone and then she had to go from one city to the other very similar situation So the ticket that she got she got it at such an odd hour that there was nobody in the station And she had to wait like late hours in the night And in the sitting room she was alone So she was very scared and she's like oh god, please help and then one lady came in She sat next to her and she started reading the Bible so my sister felt a little comfortable like okay This is an older woman. She's reading the Bible must be a godly person So she just sat there and you know like encouraged my sister and the day don't worry. Yeah, that next bus will come this and that but She never left till like my sister actually had to leave so in her sense She felt like it was literally an angel don't know if she that lady was really traveling or not But in the night time she was there for all those hours right sitting right next to her and reading the Bible and encouraging and all That in another country. So, you know, I guess again people can argue and say maybe not But yeah, that's up to them But when we are in need God helps us. That's all we know Yeah Here we are talking about a psalms 103 verse 7 angels respond to the word of God and We can't tell everything we have to obey to the law Spirit The Yeah, you're right. So you're right. Yeah, so the other way also is true we may have angels who can help us but When there's no declaration when there's no faith, they are not activated. They're just like, you know Unemployed maybe that's the way to just standing waiting watching What can we use them for See, it's not that we are using them They have certain duties that God has given them. So when we study about angels, we see different things like, you know Warring angels worshipping angels Messenger angels. So depending on what role God has created them for they'll work in that area Right, so we just have to make the declarations And they get activated Sorry Sessions to activate the word of God just use the word of God Okay Yeah, hey, I'll just pause the class if you don't mind. I'll just be back. Give me a moment. Yeah Okay, so I'll just say what we were discussing. Basically what we said is in the case of deliverance there will be that they We don't see it yet. We can expect angels to be a part of the deliverance because In the case of Daniel, we saw how an angel came to war against the principality And similarly deliverance is spiritual warfare. So angels will be there to war for us. Secondly, we said that Praise right. So when we engage in praise or worship There is a category of angels who are involved in in worship So, you know, they could be very much a part of our praise and worship So in these ways, there is an engagement or involvement of Angels, okay. So great. Yeah, thank you. Any anything else About angels just expect Yeah Expect a god to intervene through angels because it's but normal For us nothing in scripture. I think the first question That one of you asked is can we expect today? Why not? We can Fine, so we can move on to the oh one more. Yes, please Yeah Is it like the angels were always be present with us or it's like It's like Like I'm sorry to use the word But for an example, is it like a Watchman, they will always be present with us Like some people don't age. Yeah Guardian angel one to our left one to our So it's like even right now they are present beside me or As we have told here god have been sent to us sisters and They respond to the word of god only when we use the word of god, they come the minister And when once it was done, they will go but they'll always be available to come and help Okay, that available or that they're always present with us and just Do the job and needed. Yeah So I think There was a concept in Jewish culture where they believed in the guardian angels Okay, so now how far in in Scripture the bible because there is one verse Which I think yeah, let me just confirm that to you to Take in Yeah, see so Yeah Present, okay, fine. So see the verse I was referring to is matthew 18 And verse 10 where in a parable So jesus only saying the stake heat that you do not despise one of these little ones For I say to you that in heaven There angels always see the face of my father who is in heaven. So They are angels Always see the face of my father who is in heaven So somewhere because of this statement, there is a thought that maybe There are guardian angels. So again, it's more than this. We don't have information 1810 Yeah, 1810 Yeah, so they may not be guardian angels here What does it say? Yeah, so this is the warring angel. No So see when we say guardian angel Uh So in the Jewish culture, they had this thought that every person has one like how he told like a Person with you all the time. They had a concept like that Now did jesus propagate that concept? No Only in that one verse it sounds like because Let these don't stop these little children from coming to me because they are angel In heaven, but again what prince pointed out angels in heaven So, yeah, it's different context is different Um Yeah No, but why would you call them a guardian angel could just have been a messenger, you know Yeah, okay, see angels are there they will guard us Uh, but that that's not what we are arguing against But is it the same angel who's with you all the time like an assigned Guardian angel for each person now that thought doesn't seem to have a strong basis from whatever we are Yeah Yeah, who knows. Yeah, who knows. Yeah, whoever's free go maybe I don't know Yeah Yeah, so a lot of questions we don't have accurate answers to these questions Okay Okay Okay, shall we move on? Yes, uh, so jack in um is say is also quoting sam 91 verse 11 talking about Angels who will protect Or guard So same thing jack in the whole discussion was about whether there's one particular angel assigned as Each person's guardian angel, but to that thought we don't have you know clear scriptures backing us up So, yeah, we'll leave that thought But we must pray and be open To the ministry of angels, especially uh, when you see in the book of acts you find that There were angels who showed up every now and then to either give a message or to guide like peter You find peter in acts 12. He's in the prison and then the angel leads him out so In the ministry or when we are doing god's work or we are living according to god's purposes god does Um, you know send angels to help us because he also knows that we need angelic help So we can expect Uh, and we can always pray for our ministry, especially right So that's not something I used to pray for but then once I learned that yes, that's a possibility Why not say god, you know send your angels and you know help us so we can pray that way Okay Right. So, uh, the next topic here is about faith Now we all know that faith is so foundational uh, as far as I walk with a lot is concerned um And the supernatural manifests only when we are walking in faith So there are a couple of scriptures in our notes. Um, john 11 40 is the time when um Jesus told Martha Right, uh, do not be afraid Only believe right only believe You will see the glory of god if you believe sorry i'm quoting some other scripture, I guess Uh, if you believe you will see the glory of god. So how to see the glory of god Believe yeah, so that is what The Life of a disciple is all about believing even our journey starts by believing. What are we all called generally? Believers, okay So, I hope we are believing that's that's what uh, our Victories are tied to our believing in god So if you believe You will see the glory of god um Yeah, so we know this thought but again the question is in every situation. Do we believe Uh, you know that god can manifest himself now moving on there's another scripture Matthew 17 and verse 20 Uh, could somebody else read it? Matthew 17 and verse 20 Matthew 17 verse 20 He replied because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth If you have faith as small as a mustard seed You can say to this mountain move from here to there and it will move nothing will be impossible for you So if you have faith um as A mustard seed you can say to the mountain Right and even a mountain will move So what are some key things that we see in this particular verse? Let's just examine it a little more So these are said, uh one second Yeah If you have faith as a mustard seed, which means A little bit of faith mustard seed faith is to imply even a little bit of faith You will say That means we put our faith into action and we talk about this every sunday in church If you have faith you will say right make a declaration Of the faith. So faith is in the heart in our last faith course. We've learned that faith is of the heart But we need to release it through Various ways one of one very important way is to speak it and declare it So if you have faith even a little bit of faith, you will say to this mountain Whatever specific instruction move from here to there and it will move and nothing will be impossible for you Before this jesus talked about unbelief like because of your unbelief. So Did this conversation actually come about? Okay Yeah Given this uh, when did this uh question come about uh, I think it's the time when the disciples tried to cast out demons and They were unsuccessful and they asked jesus. What was the reason? So he pointed to faith The point was if you believe Things are possible if you believe and you speak Um, it manifests right so We know so much about faith but how many of us really are able to Apply it and apply it You know, maybe you you could say all the time So that that's a thing because it is available but to learn to operate in faith Is uh, something that we must be committed to Okay, and it always starts with desire When we want to see something happen, um, I always love the example of church planters and you know ministers who um, who have gone to Do a work in a particular place And how they've seen that work grow because it's not easy You know, we all know it's just the hardest thing Because you go in there thinking tomorrow you'll have a thriving church, but it's not tomorrow You know, it may be a couple of years or a couple of decades before you see a small Some you know leaves and some life after you've sown the seed So but what is that one thing? That has kept certain ministers to Finally see their churches grow and thrive. They'll all talk about the strong desire Which they had, you know that desire drove them to Keep having faith in god When times were good when times were bad, they didn't let go But they continued desiring and saying god you promised in your word. I want to see this happen I know you can do it. I believe it. I declare that you're you know working on my behalf I declare that my church is growing and so they applied faith Okay, one of the things that is part of the faith is desire Now there is a beautiful example from the life of a mother who wanted her child Set free from demonic oppression So this is there in our Which one? Yeah prayer and intercession, but here in mathu chapter 15 also there is an account of a mother who comes to jesus and she asks him right it is her desire Yeah, can a night woman. Yeah, can a night woman. It's a desire to see the child set free But what is the issue in this case? Why is she not eligible? Yeah, she's outside of the covenant But still jesus goes ahead and does the miracle for her. Why do you think that was possible? Faith okay, faith Think about this. She is a canaanite woman But she's operating in faith And that was the key to get the miracle That she so desired Okay, and what did jesus say to her in mathu 15 and verse 28? He says oh woman. Yeah, great is your faith Let it be to you as you desire Okay, so when we are desiring uh According to the purposes of god It's we we will continue in faith till we see certain things happen And that is a quality that we have to develop Okay, because When whenever we say, okay, it's okay if it happens. It's okay if it doesn't happen It's not showing great desire So when it comes to healing, you know, we what what do we tend to do? We just say If god wants he'll heal if he heals, it's okay. If he doesn't heal, it's okay You know, god is a good god god is sovereign everything is under his control So what we may tend to do is we put the responsibility on god. So if the person doesn't get healed It was not god's will, you know, we can just explain with that we can just justify with that or something else Okay, now I know that sometimes healing doesn't manifest and there can be so many reasons why that happens But the point that I'm trying to make is See faith Prayer or anything that you see in scripture the way god is designed that it must operate Perfectly So if I apply faith the way jesus is teaching me the way this woman went to jesus she's outside of the covenant still she believed and Jesus even said oh, we don't give the bread to the dogs Meaning he said you're like he's using the term dogs. It's so offensive, right? But faith is beyond that. She said I know you can do this You have to do it for me Okay, and that is what impressed jesus. She's operating in faith Her desire is pulling it's making a demand on god and saying when I know you can do this I also believe you can do this for me Please do this for me. She didn't leave him Faith and desire through faith Okay That is something that we must really keep our hearts on and minds on and learn to Flow in it day to day. What are those godly things that we should not let go of or even some prayers that we pray, right? We pray Very scared prayers It's as if like I'll make it more comfortable for you god because I know you may not do it But you know, so why don't you try doing very broad prayers? But prayers of faith are like Yeah, god will do it Yeah Done deal. Yeah specific. So uh To operate in faith. Yes. Let's be aligned to god hear from god Become more in tune with the word and all but then Some daring prayers have to come out of that Where we say yes god, I know, you know, you are going to use me to impact the nations or I know that you will Work through me to establish a great work in this city It takes faith to pray like that to Desire like that and not give up you know when enduring faith to see these things manifest or simple things like Praying right now for someone says, okay, I have a headache. I have this problem Applying the faith and saying my desire is this person has to be healed I have faith that they will be healed. So I command healing in the name of Jesus I want to see the manifestation of that Right. So applying faith operating in faith training ourselves to do this all the time Is a key to seeing the manifestation of the supernatural And the supernatural will take place If we are operating in faith Right. So, um, I think we are The time is up. So did you have any questions or Yeah, sure. Let's address that Pastor like Jesus said if you have a faith as small as a mustard seed you can Say Jesus mountain and all that. Yeah. So and That thing is such a big thing right great thing and you're having such a small Little faith as a mustard seed But then like for us like when we have so much faith more than a mustard seed nothing great happens like I mean if you believe like even for small thing like it does not happen Like even for the disciples like they were trying to get this both healed and they I mean they had some little faders I would say right. It's not gonna have any faith. So why did not happen? It's yeah, it's just to help us understand it's like figurative language Okay Yeah, so um see rin. I think god is the right judge of whether that faith is effective or not So in the case of the disciples who went to heal or deliver the child In matthew 17 jesus said that This unbelief he actually stated unbelief. So that means that their hearts were filled with unbelief because only God can recognize right. So jesus pointed out that there was unbelief. That's why it didn't happen That is one thing second thing is, you know, we are saying we had a lot of faith, but it still didn't happen Now there could be many reasons For why things don't happen even if you're operating in faith Even that is a possibility Okay, uh, but having said that I think it's only god who is the right judge of how much faith we have we may think that oh my faith is great, but does Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so even if we have little faith, it should work. No, that's the thing what jesus is saying if you have little faith, it'll work Yeah We should not have Yeah And then we should not have the That's Yeah Reasons why yeah, yeah, see but talking about Um Uh, what do you say talking about faith? Even a little bit of faith should work. That's the point jesus is making That's how it should be I Yeah, yeah, see unbelievable hinder but again going back to this thought that faith is of the heart Okay, so when there is faith in the heart Or let's say unbelief is taking over that god can recognize What is in the heart now? I may have faith in the heart But in my mind I may have questions or what you're calling as doubts the faith will still work Because in the heart god has found faith. So just having questions in the mind doesn't Mean that you're doubting god, you're not Yeah Okay, so we'll delve deeper into it in our next session. I will quickly look at the chat here because nina is saying This is going back to the angel guardian angel discussion In a general way sam 34 was 7 says the angel of the lord encamps all around those who fear him Is this an angel or jesus since lord is in Capital the angel of the lord encamps around Okay, so nina Yeah, just angel of the lord so angel We need to look at that particular word In its language So i'm just trying to look it up. Please give me a moment It says angelos Or anything else Sam 34 was 7. Yeah The angel Strongs. Yeah, it says messenger of god messenger of god angel. It's the word malak Okay, okay, nina. Please give me some time I'll look into this to give you a proper explanation. Is that okay? Yeah, as far as okay. Sure. Thank you as far as i'm concerned. It is an angel only It's it's not talking about god That's my Take on this verse, but let me look up Thoroughly and then make my final point Okay, so thank you. Let's close for now. Let's close with the word of prayer Orin, can you please pray Jesus, we thank you for this time that we have to get together to know more of your word and to Clear our doubts and thank you Jesus that That you've given us pastors who can answer questions well and clear our doubts and lord We thank you for this time and we submit everything into your hands in your name and pray amen Amen. Amen. Thank you Thank you so much. Thank you everyone. God bless you. Have a good day. Thank you