 Good afternoon and good morning. Good evening everyone. Welcome to this panel discussion on frameworks to empower your innovation champions. Well this panel is the last one today at the IT Global Innovation Forum so I hope we can leave you with some good thoughts. Taking an idea to market actually requires a disciplined approach, a certain mindset and specific steps as well as a supportive environment. In this session we will explore how entrepreneurship, mentorship, ecosystem and smart landing frameworks can help you to develop remarkable companies in your ecosystem. While using the experience of mentors, ecosystem builders and ecosystem connectors, this co-creation session will share insights about the importance of frameworks to nurture remarkable digital ecosystems. Having touched upon the community and the need for collaboration yesterday and after mainstreaming the ecosystem and resources today, now it is time when the rubber meets the road. Frameworks are key to equip the people with the mindset they need to nail innovation projects. So today we are going to explore the ideas, tools and best practices that can be used as a framework to drive mindsets. So well the speakers in the in the session before also emphasized the importance of mindsets. So let's now focus on this aspect of entrepreneurship and one more important thing. In aiming for a co-creation we are going to use a live mirror board to frame the discussion and collect ideas, tools and best practices. This board is presented on the screen with the building blocks of ecosystem, innovation, culture, entrepreneurship frameworks. We also have preset posters colored as ideas which are going to be the yellow ones, tools which are going to be orange ones and practices which will be the green ones. So we are going to collect the content of our discussion today in this board and at the same time it is also very important to mention that the community is co-creating their board which will be merged in the end of the panel to our board. For this we have a wonderful team led by Victoria Masso from Behaviour Hackers in the background who I will call in the end to share the results with all and if you have any questions or ideas to include please don't forget to raise them through the online platform in the chat so we are going to include them as well. All right having covered the practicalities let me introduce our panelists. We do have four expert speakers to David Diver's background. Let me start by introducing Niajia Kavalkanta who is Information Technology Project Manager at Atlantico Institute, a reference and research development, a reference and research in development in Brazil. Niajia took part in the IT innovation challenges in 2019 and was awarded as one of the global winners of the ecosystem best practice challenge. Galina Dremova, our second speaker is communications manager at the Generations Corporate Accelerator in Russia. Prior to this she worked as an innovation manager at NR Russia subsidiary of the Italian multinational energy company. We also have on board Zainaf Khan, a co-founder of teacher kid made in the life or otherwise known as Stockmill which uses technology integrated solutions to provide access to basic literacy and digital literacy. Stockmill has reached more than 1,500 children across 30 communities in Pakistan. Finally we have on board Daniel Wins, a natural born entrepreneur and a community member who represents the input program which aims to create and nurture internationally competitive Hungarian tech startups. Daniel also enjoys solving problems creating products and doing customer development and coming up with business ideas. So having said all of these things I think it's time to kick off the discussion but before starting I would need to remind you dear speakers that you have three minutes to answer each of the questions. So let me start by the first question to media. One of the things that we were discussing before the session is that design thinking is actually becoming widely known among successful companies that want to innovate in terms of product services and other areas of the business. Therefore one of the main design thinking objectives is actually to create innovative solutions. So could you please explain how design thinking can enhance successful opportunities for entrepreneurs? Sure entrepreneurs startups and consolidated companies have been using design thinking to create new business projects and reinvent themselves. The methodology helps to mitigate errors reduce risks and waste time and money. It looks like a miracle right but it's design. There are several ways to put into practice. The approach may aim to find solutions to different problems of different natures and magnitudes. For the team to be successful first of all it's essential to ensure that creativity is the fuel that is the part of the company's culture. To apply the concept in your company you need to design an organizational culture and implement a changing mentality. Employers and stakeholders must develop empathy in addition to create a spirit of collaboration and cooperation. So creative thinking can help your company to gain a large share of the market and further boost profits. Depending on the size of the company holding meetings with people from other areas with different expertise, life experiences and viewpoints helps to enrich the process, increasing its value and the chances of success. Lastly a good strategy is to look into the methodology in order to choose an approach that fits best your business. Okay thank you very much this was really really insightful and I think we can really build on that. I hope that our colleagues in the in the board are actually collecting the ideas that you just mentioned. So let me now ask another question from Galina. Galina in your opinion like what are the initiatives or tools that can be used in order to help startups at an early stage? Hello everyone it's very nice to participate in this forum first of all. From the generation as and corporate accelerator point of view we're one of the main members of the ecosystem network and it's very important to go beyond the actual activities that accelerators do for companies. So it's important to have a network of startups where you can help them with different mentor support with different coaching online programs and different activities that can help them to find the potential investors for example. We do have uh based on our example we do have a lot of pitch sessions which are going beyond of working with the corporates. So we try to build these connections find the startups that are suitable and that can suggest interesting solutions and find the proper investment for them. So I think it's important to create a network where you can communicate with each other. So we do have a lot of support when it comes to grants when they want to apply for different programs also international we give them give them advice we teach them how to do that and when they participate in acceleration programs we also create all this networking around them that can help them to build business strategy to know how to create a proper business plan because we do have a lot of startups which have a huge potential but they're at the early stage and they really really need this help that can you know help them to find the proper way to how to scale up their business how to find the partners and stuff like that. So I think this set of tools and mentor support and the ecosystem context that accelerators usually have will also be very helpful to the startups. They have to know that they have someone in the ecosystem where can always ask for help and ask for advice and always reach out. So I think that's one of the keys. So yeah. All right thanks a lot Goni. I think it was really very important what you just mentioned but we also have another aspect which we could actually find out now and I'd like to now ask the next question from Zainab because you have I think a totally different experience and you know since this is a global forum we would like to collect all the important experiences and know-how that could be integrated into our board today. So can you share us your experiences on frameworks in different ecosystems especially in developing countries. Thank you Matt and I'm glad that I'm here and I can share a perspective from a developing country's perspective. When we talk about developing countries the ecosystem there is already a challenging one and there the components of ecosystem that support or gives a nurturing environment to an innovation to start from the basic and go on to the startup phase and then to SME phase is very challenging. So you have to know how you navigate your path through that you know challenging ecosystem and how you make sure that you reach that point where your idea and innovation reach your milestones your targets. So from my perspective in my country if I talk about a developing country Pakistan yes the ecosystem is not very supportive for innovations and ideas. All the pillars have different pros and cons to it the government part the finances part the incubators or the supporting pillars of it and when you come up with an idea now you have a very good idea but how you go on further and make it work. So if I talk about my idea it was a global challenge it's a global challenge that I have a twenty two eight point eight million children who are do not have any access to education and digital literacy in my country and I say okay I have to solve this problem with technology but do I have the funds for it? No I don't. Do I have the grants that I can reach out? Yes I reached out but I didn't get that much help from that. So I thought who could be the supporting pillars here. So then what I'm doing is that I am channeling all of the funds from where the funds are available those people who can actually support the ecosystem and using that ecosystem to nurture what I want to do in my country. So I'm connecting the people in US for funding properties and then enabling the children in Pakistan through that. So what's happening? I do not have something of a I call a solution in my ecosystem but I'm looking and navigating from the available resources because as you mentioned in the beginning that because of the COVID-19 we are local but at the same time we are global we can connect around the world right. So that's how you connect with the pillars that can actually support and nurture your idea and then connect them. So that is just a personal experience that I have from my framework where I find a lot of challenges but you are determined that you have to do something and make it work. Yeah thanks a lot. I think this is also extremely important especially the global cooperation and framework that you just mentioned because you know there are lots of mentors and best practices or you know mentors equate with best practices or knowledge which can be shared all around the world and which could help you know startups or innovations just to scale up and access to other markets. So I think it's very important what you just mentioned. Yeah thanks a lot. Let me actually continue with Dania Wins who is representing the input program from Hungary because I heard that there is the so-called soft landing program and I just wanted to ask Dania that could you please tell me how it works and what it is? Absolutely thank you Mati and hello everyone. Before I answer your question I got to tell you something. So I'm right now I'm from Hungary but currently I'm in the countryside of Cambodia and as much as I try to find a silent place Cambodian people really love karaoke and it's all over the town so in the neighborhood there is a Cambodian karaoke going on so if you guys hear it I'm sorry for that but please try to enjoy the music. Now back to your question. So basically yeah the input program is a government program and the smart landing program that we developed has two main signs that I would like to mention. One of them is a more technical side like what does it you know how does it work what kind of elements do we put into it and the other one is the mindset of the whole smart landing program. I think that's more important the mindset so the goal really is to help Hungarian tech that innovative technology companies to expand globally to open to new markets. Now the question is how do you do that right that's that's a really hard thing to tackle and and they're most of the startup failings like they have no idea how to go to new market for example in this ASEAN region like Malaysia Singapore Thailand is bigger bigger markets in Cambodia so you know how do you from Hungary how do you open up a market in these regions that's the question that we asked ourselves and tried to figure out how we as government can help in that. So the smart landing program's mindset really is to help to find those partners whose interest really aligns with our interests. Our interest is to help Hungarian companies expand globally. Now there are organizations all over the world whose main goal is to attract foreign companies foreign innovative companies right so that's that's an immediate match our values and our goals really align so what we do is really find those partners and build meaningful relationships where you know we both can achieve our goals and those Hungarian startup companies will have all necessary help that they need. So you know if I talk a little bit about the technical parts like how it looks like we actually do a very detailed country study we write down how you know the generic information of the economics of a specific country how to launch a business there how to start how to incorporate a company how taxation works all that stuff whether the main industries in the country so really startups can learn about the country learn really in depth on how they can actually enter the market and in each specific area whether it's it's legal work or or even marketing we find those partners who we validate we test we know that those companies can trust and can work with so it's not that they just try to go to a country they have no idea what is going on we take their hands we walk the whole journey with them and we introduce them to those partners who can really help them understand the market and go to that market I don't know how much time I have left from the three minutes so I don't want to to talk too much I'll I'll talk more about it later if you have some time. All right thanks a lot I think you had some time but we can fill it in later on so but to me this actually boils down to networking and global networking but not only networking in a in a regular meaning but this this did it sound like to me as a targeted and very very specific networking based on real data which I think is extremely useful today but let's go back to a couple of other ideas because we also have a lot a lot a lot of other things actually to discuss because for instance business modeling is one of the primary steps in creating innovative businesses and it is very it is very significant to any business segment and unfortunately many people ignore the value of this process and end up getting lost along the way and I just wanted to ask this question from Ninja that could you please suggest any business modeling methodology that has been supporting startups successfully what is your experience about business modeling? Sure I could mention a couple but I'm gonna focus one on one of that I you know think that's very relevant the techniques that that being used to work in startups ideas it's the one I'm gonna discuss here is the link canvas it's a tool derived from the business model canvas whose main function is to develop new business models or just existing business models the link framework has a great focus on hypothesis that needs to be validated early in the life of a startup so it's ideal for the time when the business is emerging and has not yet been tested its assumptions this is a time to analyze in more depth the problems that the market presents and to structure the solution offered by the startup in a better way finding the best result in that equation the link canvas also aims to help entrepreneurs who are starting a new business not to waste so much time or money learning from the experience of the market I'm so sorry here it's kind of noisy too it's with the link canvas framework too that you are able to evaluate competitive advantages of your startup with the joint analysis of the market and the solution offered it's easier to find the point that would make your business stand out among so many others and become successful I hope the noise wasn't too loud no no no it was actually great but I think this you know this gives us a real co-creation spirit that you know that we have these background noises and everything so I think this is just normal so thanks a lot for your inputs and yeah actually link canvas is one of the most widely used tools recently I would even say that it's a bit hyped but at the same time there are many other tools and I just wanted to ask design of that what do you think is there a universal framework for all innovation can we say that such a thing exists oh well that was something that was pondering upon when I got the invite for the session and I looked up some things but then when I looked up different frameworks I got to the conclusion that no there is no universal framework and even one framework would work best for one kind of innovation on one ecosystem but the in another ecosystem maybe or another you know environment in another country or developing country the cultural setting the local setting the market how the market works there there's must be a lot of components that can be integrated into that framework so the answer to this is that no I don't think so there is any universal ecosystem link canvas I worked on it and I really enjoyed it putting all the ideas there and making it you know getting to the final point where I knew that where I stand on my startup and my idea and my innovation but I really think that there could be some more points that can be added to it and you know get the bigger picture of it and envision it in the long run okay in five years where I see myself so I think yes every ecosystem can have some adaptations and the frameworks needs adaptations accordingly that that's what I believe and and do you think that the frameworks can be merged into each other so like can we for instance make a tailored make made a framework to a specific business case or scenario or a specific innovation problem well I think that the idea is that when you have an idea at the beginning you can experience with one or two frameworks or three frameworks and you see which one actually works for you best when you are working on some framework you know how much convenient you are seeing your idea transforming into a framework and words and you know all of that business model the framework that works best for you is the one that you will you know adopt eventually but there could be point where you could see okay this components of this particular framework works best for me but now this part is good in this let's merge them together and when you merge them together you get something new that is tailor made for your own self and you're very satisfied with it and you're saying okay now I think it makes sense for me more sense for me so I think yes one needs to experiment with different frameworks in order to see which works best for them in their own case all right thank you because I also believe that this should be one of the way forwards one of the ways forward so thanks a lot for sharing this with us Galina let me ask another question from you now because now we've been talking about framework tools and ideas but you are doing so many things in in your accelerator program but can you mention please a couple of examples like what other help can provide an accelerator to startups okay so I have a really good examples I'm going to share with you first of all when we talk about startups we do have our own network we call it alumni club so that's the startups who passed the exploration programs that we have before with the companies so we try to communicate with them not only databases but constantly keep communicating and suggest different tools and programs and stuff like that so one of the things that we do have workshops when they all gather together and they have a chance to share about their project and sometimes we can witness how two startups can combine their solutions into one technology and then offer that to the company or something like that for example I'm not going to mention the names of the startups or the companies but for example there was one solution which was providing like in-pipe diagnostic you know there was like a robot that was going through the pipe and just trying to detect if it's okay or not and then there is another technology which was related to solar panels like innovative coding so there was an idea what if we combine these two projects together so that could be a robot which go through the pipes and sprinkles this innovative coding you know for the pipes to be okay and not to be destroyed with the time so I think then at working that we have inside our accelerator not only like with all the startups but I'm talking about our alumni so it's also very important so they can share the ideas and then they come up with something absolutely new and I think that was a really really good example of how they can work together and create something you also we do have speech sessions and we do have them not only within the framework of the acceleration program but just a specific request that we can get from the ecosystem representative for example like French Chamber of Commerce they ask us oh guys if you have any startups you know in this and this field with this and this technology because we're interested and we're like yes why not we can help you we can find the startups and then they can offer you a solution so it's something like that so they always know you know we are one of the ecosystem builders and it's important that startups companies universities they know who they need to ask if they need something that is related to innovation ecosystem development and stuff like that so was it three minutes yeah I think it was thanks a lot I think it was again a very very important insight to what we've been discussing today let me fire the next question to Daniel because I know that you've been working a lot of with a lot of companies and you use a lot of frameworks and could you please tell us a story or a company that you work with and and an example like how did you have them with the framework or be the framework so yeah sure um let me let me just oh I have some of the things that I want to tell you guys reflecting to what what Galina and the other speakers said but I'll try to keep on track and try to answer your question Matthew and hopefully we'll have we'll have some chance to refer back to these things that the others are saying because there is a lot of yeah please do refer back yeah yeah thank you back to the other things because yeah it should be a it should be an open discussion so very good start chatting thank you no so I'll I'll get back to your question I promise but I think it's you know what Galina just said about the alumni network for example I think that is crucial you know like so basically my experience as a so I'm an entrepreneur but then I help I mean I work together with with the Hungarian government as the input program right and and what we saw oftentimes when when we reached out to startups you know they were always like oh you're a government what do you know about startups so we always had to tell them like guys we are a startup basically I must I'm a startup founder let me believe me that we can help you we can you know do that all this stuff but what you know when the alumni network comes in really is I think startups and startup founders are you know the best mentor that you can have is not someone who is light years ahead of you and very successful and have built already a gazillion businesses and you know like they are too far so the best mentor for early stage startups are really those people who are just a few steps ahead of them because they really understand what that you know very early stage startup is going through and then you can find these gems hidden gems in the alumni network because they just went through the program they try the tools they know what works they know what doesn't work for them and they can really be very helpful for these young entrepreneurs so yeah I love I love what you said Galina about that now when it comes to frameworks let me refer to that as well a tiny bit you know there's so many good frameworks out there and it's good to use all of them or many of them but the real question I think is like okay you got lean canvas or the business model canvas you know the whole team comes together they feel it out that's nice that's step number one right that's an important step but that's still the first step now the real question is like what do you do with that information that data that you actually put into that framework and how do you you know systematically because everything you put on a canvas is just a hypothesis right you think that's how the market works you think that people would buy that product or that's all hypothesis and I think what most of the startup does not do or do not do is then systematically go through all of those hypotheses and you know check them is it true is it not where we write where we're not do we do we keep this do we trash it and you know very very systematically going through each and Ella each and one and all elements of the canvas and validate it and learn from it so the real value of the canvas is that is actually when people start to use it really so I just wanted to emphasize that do I have two minutes to share a quick story of answering your question Mati yeah I think please do thank you I try to be quick so so this is a quite recent story and it again really shows the value of the network and the value of the relationships so there is one Hungarian very very interesting technology which is quite deep tech high tech it's really hard to grasp how you can actually use it in in a real world scenario you know it has to do something with robotics and AI and and and all the kind of stuff I don't want to say too much about it so what we did is we figured okay we have an idea of how we could you know do the first beta version where we can actually test real life scenarios but we do believe that there are a lot of other people out there in the world who are smarter than we are or think differently than we are so we reached out to a network and and launched a program together with one of our partners the itchy foundation we call the program the math birds program so we collected 20 young people from 18 now 14 different nationalities and then we went them through a an eight weeks long program every week we had a call with them and we had a speaker coming in talking about the technology but also business model cameras and also you know about about different interesting teams and we put them into teams these these these are university students or somewhere between 20 to 30 years of age they have they don't know each other right different 14 different countries so we put them into teams and they give them the challenge like hey you figure this out like we give you a question you got eight weeks we give you some kind of helps but you know there's come up with something and we had no idea what they are going to come up with right because this is really it's a hard thing to tackle and the result really blew you know it just blew our mind like when you find a lot of talented people passionate energetic young or not so young you know and you put them into a group you you you create a platform for them to think to collaborate and really interesting and magical things come out of it so so so the result was a lot of really really good ideas on how we could make the first step and how we could you know let people use that things that we wouldn't even think of by by themselves thank you yeah thank you Donny I think this was a really really interesting framework an example and this actually perfect perfectly led me to my next question which I wanted to ask from the ladies actually because you mentioned that you have gathered I don't know more than 18 or 20 people from porting different nationalities but this would lead me lead me to the question like okay but what are the cultural aspects that would you that you would consider as important for startups or their framework because I assume that you also had to deal with these cultural differences in your in your framework but let me ask for instance Zyna do it to answer this question like do you think that there are anything that we should take into account in this in this session with regards to culture and cultural differences well that's a very tricky question first of all I would really appreciate how Daniel put together all of his thoughts in you know getting together the ideas because this is what I did when I started off I went out and I knew that there are people in the market who are doing something relevant in the education field I listened to them I took their demos and I put together my team and we did like a very detailed analysis on each and every feature what are my strengths what are their strengths how I should improve what they are doing I shouldn't be reinventing the wheel I should bring something to you this is how you identify the strength this is one thing just I wanted to put in as a continuity of what Daniel put his thoughts in this session and as far as the cultural frameworks are concerned then I would say that in my country or developing countries the scenario differs for everyone especially when I talk about now it depends what cultural parameters you're talking about and how you put you know finger on those cultural parameters if I talk about in Pakistan the first thing that I believe is the digital isolation for the rural community so the reach towards the the available resources is in the urban areas in the cities in the big cities what about those ideas that are somewhere in the slums somewhere in the rural communities great ideas huge potential but they don't know how they have to reach out to all of those resources which are available in the urban areas or in the cities or in the big pool where the incubators or accelerators are so this I think is a cultural framework where you have to see the gaps or your challenges that you see in where you are where you are based and then of course in technology I believe in developing countries yes there is a hesitation in in gender you know how the female come in the technology field and how they present themselves as compared to how the male are there because what I see is that there are fewer female led technology innovations as compared to males and that is because there are fewer females in the technology or they come up with innovations as compared to the male recently I wouldn't say that I would like to mention that there was a only a campaign for females built by her by the National Incubator Center in Karachi and I think that focused on specifically this problem that females are not coming up in the innovation technology innovation sector so this is just one example that I would put forth especially technology and innovation combining it together in this perspective in developing countries thanks for mentioning the women in tech initiative and notion because I'm really proud of this session actually where actually we are you know out represented by women and it's really great that we have all of you here and sharing your experiences so it's already I think a big step forward but having said that I just wanted to ask quickly Galina as well that do you have any ideas how culture can come into the picture when we talk about startups and startups especially for instance like in your case Russian startups hitting the global market well that is also a tricky subject to discuss but let me start with just saying that in terms of innovation and startups I think Russia has a huge potential honestly maybe we're not at this stage where we would like to be and it pains me to see how really promising startups sometimes not finding a proper investment have to go abroad and we have like a brain leak that's how you call it it is very very sad sometimes but I think in terms of cultural aspect well I can tell you I can share what for example on the Russian example can be improved in maybe other countries as well so we do have some government government programs that you know related to digitalization digital transformation that's like the top top right now and we do have so many wonderful ICD startups with a huge potential from all Russian regions but sometimes they are at the early stage and they need some investment so I think in Russia it's not enough yet investment culture that's how I would say that's why they have to go and find the investment somewhere abroad but also we do have some good examples you know the startups also that are our alumni that were able to launch the project launch a really cool startup and got investment from abroad as well so they have represent they have subsidiaries in Russia in Asia in Europe but it takes a lot of effort it takes a lot of stamina not to give up because you have to you know knock on the different doors you know you have to protect your project in order to find the proper investor or to find the right one who will believe in your project and will be ready so we do have some really wonderful examples of the technologies that scaled up their business abroad and they're doing really well even despite the COVID thing so yeah but if talking overall I think we do need more support system in our country for the startups and innovations in general so thanks a lot for sharing these talks let me ask another question because what you were mentioning and we were discussing this led me to another question that I just wanted to ask from Nidia it is that could you please just tell us again a nice story when you use the specific framework which is really helpful for an innovative in an innovative project you can of course talk about for instance culture aspects as well because I think that's very important in the global community but if you have any other examples when a framework was extremely useful and helpful for a project or startup could you please share that story with us sure some companies designed their own frameworks and last year I was I had the honor to present participating this event as a winner presenting a framework that was developed within the institute I work for and it's called tomorrow lab and the the framework identifies and develops innovative solutions through empathy just explain a little bit of the framework to tell the how we go about with it tomorrow lab generates a minimal viable products or proof of concepts that will be worked in the business modeling stage to evolve it into a startup for instance and nowadays we are we have a proof of concept that was developed using tomorrow lab that has a subject treated that test-driven proof of concept and that's currently being worked on and evolving to become a business it's worth mentioning that one of the main risks that any startup faces at the beginning of its activities it's not obtaining the necessary validation of the market tests that's because the insights that generate the prototype idea makes it could be creative but sometimes it's not necessary effective so through this framework we've been having a lot of great experience managing to reduce this risk since the proof of the concept has already gone through stages of identifying the real problem and validations in this modeling stage we work other variables such as target audience monetization and startup team I could go on and on and on but if anyone would like to get a little bit more about tomorrow lab you know it's my contact to be available and I'll be glad to discuss it more thanks a lot sure we'll do that afterwards but I just wanted to ask actually from from anyone who would like to take the floor that do you have any other tips or hints for future innovation challenge members or participants when you're looking for the best frameworks or or anyone who is who is now starting an innovative project I could I could say that the best frameworks in my opinion are the one those frameworks that could be adjusted to your company's need and they can promote results that can connect you with the target audience earlier Daniel always mentioned make a comment made a comment on the link canvas that that's not only the framework itself but also what's what you can work on and what's the all the variables there around it so just the framework and put all the variables together and you have great chance of success and can I add one more layer to that and I would be very much interested in your opinion because we've been discussing and as I also mentioned that in the previous session the speakers mentioned that a mindset is very important and then you know frameworks and tools and best practices are there to drive the mindset what do you think what is the right mindset before you start an innovative if I if I may ask that or is the right mindset for instance that would be a question would any of you have any talks about that that's a good question I gotta tell you yeah I completely agree I think the mindset is the number one most important thing and I don't think there is such a thing as as as the right mindset or as the perfect mindset for entrepreneurs you know there's this saying that oh entrepreneurs are not made they are born I don't think that's true I think entrepreneurs are made and basically it all starts with the mindset and I think really the most important there are a few very important things one of them is really you know just the eagerness of figuring out the solution the eagerness of helping other people like the eagerness of solving a problem which really again like makes other people's life easier and better and then persistence because that's a that's a big one there's so many good ideas so many like you know companies which starts with a great idea trying to tackle the world but you know as as soon as you you go down that road especially when you are trying to to really you know tackle big industries and and bringing innovation and bringing your new solution to big industries there will be so many roadblocks so many challenges that will have you will have to face and they will try to to to stop it's a really persistent ski I think for these for these startup founders to to push it through whatever it takes you know I think that is that is probably these are the important things by my opinion you know that's what I'm trying to advocate when I talk to entrepreneurs like are you ready for it okay why are you trying why do you want to do it right if you have the good answer for why then whatever challenge will come in front of you you will probably be able to overcome one day or the other but the that's why has to be very strong excellent maybe anyone else yeah I would like to actually add on top of Daniel said that every technology every startup is born first of all because of the need of changing something so when you realize that okay you know I have this idea because I want to change this so you have to keep it along the way and not forget where you initially came from that the idea to change something make something better should become like your I don't know like motto you shouldn't forget why you started all this why you started to go through all the ups and downs with your project because you want you're a change maker so you want to make a change you want to make a better world a better place give more opportunities and just to test your limits it's also important so yeah just always keep in mind why you started everything just because you want to change and make make something better so that's a good mindset I think thanks a lot for sharing this because I think this perfectly explains why we are here today and actually what are the main goals of the entire event and the session today so having said that I think now it's time to give the virtual floor to Victoria Masso from Behavior Hackers to share the results of the boards that were actually created in the meanwhile with everyone and after that I'm going to be back and I will ask all of you to make a very short 30-second concluding statement of the session but before going to that let us look at the mural together and let Victoria share the results with everyone please hi everyone can I hope you can see me actually it's going to be Mo and me who's going to be talking through this really quickly we had so just for what Mati said we had the community co-creating on a different room and we brought their ideas together here plus all the amazing interventions that all of you guys did so it was it was very very interesting thank you so much for coming in so in ecosystem framework we have a few bits and pieces just to remind you again of the colors green was good practices yellow were ideas and orange were tools so if we go to ecosystem we we have building alumni networks corporate corporate accelerators which is super important to be able to foster ecosystem building into the corporate private sector we have mentoring programs these are all best practices tax incentive for working with different stakeholders again ecosystem is all about collaboration and understanding how to collaborate with each other to be able to push innovation forward so those are very good we have soft landing and smart landing which was mentioned here ecosystem mapping super important understanding what resources you have so we we talked about this already how you cannot just copy paste an initiative so understanding who is involved what resources we have and what can we do with it and what stage are we on as an ecosystem as a region as a country that's super super important and it was mentioned especially when you guys are talking about developing countries in developed countries so that's very very good we have also channeling other ecosystem funds to support developing ecosystem ideas and we have creating network for our communities all very valid best practices um when we have when we're talking about tools we have uh itu actually um which is going interesting they put them here so we have ecosystem canvas from the itu the material team map tool um there's a lot of resources that are free as well on the itu website related to this uh they're all are all about ecosystem building so you should check them out um but they're mentioned here uh co-creation workshops to share insights again very good into understanding resources and the key and the stakeholders involved country studies super important again same same idea and um that's it for tools that's very good um and for ideas you can see more organizing there we have the need to navigate um to navigate challenge challenges within ecosystems that's that's good identify resources and problems not the copy paste initiative we actually also heard that in some of our previous talks which is super important we cannot go and just pretend that we can replicate an ecosystem somewhere else we have to understand our own network that can help you tap into multiple resources uh understanding the culture making sure trainings are provided to collaborate and and that's it so all this seems very interesting um um yeah these are other results of of of the community and what you guys have talked about um i don't know more if you would like to add anything to it but yeah i think that's it on my side okay great um amazing so this is all about how do you foster the mindset of ecosystem of what frameworks can you take then we're going to innovation frameworks um so very interesting with the tools and i was sure 100 sure this was going to come up design thinking to be able to create innovative projects um effectuation tools again design thinking we actually had it two times empathy tools uh very well said me as well you were talking about empathy so important qualitative and quantitative interviewing uh to understand the owners of the problems um and that's it for tools that we can use to be able to foster that innovation mindset um let's see what we go to best practices uh research and innovation policy of incentive that one is super important because we tend to see now in uh academia sometimes uh the research that is funded actually doesn't uh relate to the problems that uh a country can have or a population can have and so how are we actually making that connection well we should start bringing incentive that make that the research is actually applicable research not just documentation that is created for no one to read so it's super important i love that one financial safety net for individuals that want to become entrepreneurs to innovate again this one that was also uh mentioned in one of our previous sessions actually the fire the fire starter session um what else do we have we have um make your own framework to learn from experiments um okay so i guess that that would mean something around the lines of being able to develop your own innovative framework so that's a best practice yeah this was in relationship to the fact that uh you don't you have multiple frameworks and you have to experiment with couple and just make your own oh that's it okay yes um and then in terms of ideas we have there's no universal framework which is um very very true and again we keep seeing this repeated over and over again uh market context is important different views and strategies and insights much making to create new innovation and then we go back to the resources platforms for collaboration comprehensive policies for funding initiatives that are against anything initiatives that are applicable for research to innovation uh training to find problems and solutions which I guess takes us back to the um to the tools and that's it so those are very good ideas for innovation supposed to the innovation mindset again if anyone in the chat has other points of view or ideas of what should be included in this ecosystem and innovation framework and even in cultural entrepreneurial that'll be great uh you can still um let us know we'll still read in the chat let's see cultural frameworks my favorite so we have in terms of uh tools we have the ethic canvas uh the empathy map the future workforce index the storytelling canvas we have a culture of pitches and hackathons okay so that could be a tool or a um or an idea or a best practice um what what we see here is that uh you have the way you actually build the culture of innovation of culture of all this is that all these events and hackathons and all of these things that happen creates the the community and this is where people get inspired and and they actually sustain this culture or or these digital communities and um then the other tool that we have is events for the innovation communities again really get to the same point of hackathons and that's it so I would assume that the tools that you are using here so the tools that we are mentioning here are tools that will foster that culture there's a lot of places where you find that people don't do not become entrepreneurs because there's not a culture that allows them to do so so it is very good that we find those frameworks um ideas so we have method methodological thinking uh innovation gender divide which was a point that was raised during the conversation trust issues in the ecosystem yeah so these are the trust issues again we go back to the culture resilience training um that's very important as well and also um entrepreneurs are made eager to solve a problem so it's all these cultural uh issues culture of listening problem focus um again instead of just creating instead of creating innovations that don't solve problems but create more problems we should have problem we have to actually go and create a culture that tries to solve real problems passion and persistence in the ecosystem organizational culture of collaboration and cooperation and is I love this one is the problem worth your time as an entrepreneur that is such a good question um and goes back to are we problem focus are we understanding the issues in the ecosystem and are we culturally ready to actually uh be able to solve these issues so yeah another way to put it is I mean do you really want to be an entrepreneur because most people are not cut to be entrepreneurs you should just go work for somebody and just accept it uh in terms of time I think we're losing interpretation in less than a minute Victoria maybe if we can go to the last one okay quickly entrepreneurial support mindset mindset change for entrepreneurs does best practices pitching and financial support for be able to support entrepreneurship um just basically general support to get the entrepreneurs to be able to uh to to be entrepreneurs and feel safe uh tools business model and tools link canvas mentioned here coaching support for entrepreneurs and just ideas at the end knowledge to create businesses take uh taking your ideas to market need support dependent on ecosystem maturity hypothesis and rapid testing approaches discipline and systematic entrepreneurship um accelerated drain brains due to start-up fight and more support services for startups and also support to find talents which is an issue sometimes when it comes to and we ask for our interpreters if we can have just five minutes to wrap up this session if that's okay with you okay perfect so we have five minutes to wrap up okay Mo you want to wrap up I think we leave that pleasure to Mati for the great discussion yeah sure thanks a lot thank you Victoria and Mo for summarizing the co-creation board for us I think it's a very very amazing collection of ideas and tools um and I think we really nailed this panel today because we have this very very nice result so um DRL panelists as we are needing the end of the panel um could you please make a very short 30 second statement concluding statement that you would like to share with everyone either about the session today or just in general um I'd like to encourage organizations everyone who is it's participate on this panel today to go beyond frameworks and focus on people as well as investing time in creative thinking based on empathy and collaboration thank you thank you well I can be next so I think first of all that it's important that such a forum is organized so maybe the startups who or owners of the company they're only in the beginning of their innovation journey join our session today that they were able to find some very valuable information some tools interesting ideas and I just want to say that don't be afraid to innovate that's so important thank you Zainab yeah I think I would just say that when you start your journey it's just to start brace yourself and gear up you don't have to give up it's just to start and let all the roadblocks come challenge yourself and your potentials will come out and eventually you will succeed the first reason you start is the reason that you will continue so I think that's one thing that I want to share with everyone who is listening thank you and Danielle um I really liked what what me just said about focus on people couldn't agree more um you know focus on building meaningful relationship with people because they are going to be the one who can help you on on the way focus on relationships and you know reach out reach out to them especially nowadays when zoom calls became the norm you know we don't need to be in the same country anymore I can just write your message like hey can you help me out and then you know people just yeah let's jump on zoom and boom your problem is solved you know so reach out build meaningful relationship and and use them I mean in the good sense obviously so well thank you thank you all for attending our panel today and let me thank the speakers for the available valuable inputs I think it was extremely important what we just discussed today so by this let me just close this session and then conclude our day of the global innovation forum organized by ITU and please do not forget that there there is a networking session which just starts now which is called the virtual reality beach party so I think it should be very very interesting and I would suggest everyone to join and don't forget see you tomorrow and stay safe thanks a lot everyone