 folks I'm Mike and I'm 28 of Fix My Mix a show where we listen to some songs from the community and endeavor to impart some wisdom to help people get through to the stage where they're going to release that music and when they do release that music I sincerely hope they follow the link which is up here and it's down in the description as well and release that music through DistroKid notice the nice the nice hoodie I've got on today release the music through DistroKid and it'll go out to all the places they want it to go to like Spotify and Restream and all that sort of stuff and yeah okay I'm getting a message here from oh I'm getting a message here from my guest I'll just bring on the show right let me do that let me just pull him up Pete Johns here hey hello have I got some weird sound going on I reckon you're on the webcam like welcome to the troubleshooting I'm glad you were here because I wouldn't have known for about 10 minutes otherwise we would have kept talking about our delightful hoodies and no one would have you could hear me though hopefully you just have a down like a down a tunnel like a troll oh yes yes that's webcam mics wonderful wonderful things oh don't know why they even have them they should just disable them they need to make a webcam that has no mic so you'd never have that problem absolutely nice to see you here with your hoodie on could you give me a little favor could you tuck your little things inside just so we match a bit more yeah that's it it's the way the cool kids do it look at it we look like giant knobs we love your district it is we're gonna get a snapshot this one and put it right on there Instagram yeah this is two middle aged old blokes in Australia like district kids they'll never sell another subscription again it's terrible really because and I must say this because you many of you are sponsored for a show and you you're sponsored for all your shows you know it can appear that you're just doing it for the sponsorship I mean I genuinely do use district hidden they're brilliant I mean they are they're they're a lot more professional than we are and they will grab your music and they'll put it out on all the platforms and yeah like I used to circuit for two years before I started and yeah they have very cool people and they have lots of cool services and I they're adding a heap more all the time so I know we sound like we're just like corporate shill but you and I both release music and we both use district kids so we we practice what we preach that was the word I was looking for corporate shill corporate shill is that word ever used in any other context is there any other kind of shill not only when a New Zealander goes to the beach and they collect some shill that's the only other place you're already starting to get a little bit I told you I was a little bit sleep deprived today mate it was gonna be a fun we all need to meet a hey before we go any further we should we say hello to everyone who's here should and most of them you've already said hello to in the last hour or so on your show it's very hello to the folks who came over from my show I'm gonna say hi to the Lily Pillies always what's the name of the person from the Lily Pillies manny that's right yes I'm manny I should know that hello I've clicked on the wrong one random I'm this is hide hide yeah Doug and Jade yeah that could be a duo couldn't it we've got me yellow me you know we also have we have some we have Craig nice to see you here we have house Malone I've offended Craig cuz I made my New Zealand joke oh we do you go yes yes I just love to mess around with the vowels over there don't they just what vowel should we pick for this word we just we just forget that the letter R exists I'm gonna go in the car I'm gonna go down the skill in the car and get to the spa later each short sax is here always nice to see you and I believe we also I can't can't see him here but I know Kevin was here Kevin parents yeah there is Kevin parents here nice to see you all here this is gonna be recently please you know I've been doing some hands-on sort of mixing things on the show but this week we're doing fix my mixed light which is which it doesn't involve any of that hands and stuff we're just gonna be listening to three songs from the community and trying to help guide people to where they ought to go and much like our banter the the song intensity is it gonna increase throughout the show we're gonna start off with something very light it's it's like soft porn at the beginning and just hard called triple X the last track is really full-on it's quite enjoyable actually to be honest with you I was just watching your show you had Dom on there I did Dom Tara Grosso inspired me I've got I've got an idea for you okay I know that he was of the idea that that you shouldn't have two names he felt that you should just go with the one name but I don't I've got an idea for you Pete let me pitch this to you second channel right second channel I know you've already got a second channel so third channel it's called John Pete's this is an alter ego channel John Pete's where you advise people they should buy the best gear possible when it's gonna make their music much much better and there are very definite rules that you should follow in making music how about that that would be good like the bizarro world like that's a bizarro Star Trek in the Seinfeld people where it's exact opposite I actually like the idea of that I can say gear sluts is the best forum ever you'll never find any hate there should always buy external preamps because they'll make a massive difference and here is the five rules of songwriting you must always follow otherwise you suck let's see that's your channel in a nutshell I love it I like I'd watch it something you know what it might be more successful I would have to do it as a peace take though I would have to do it target shake I would have to um okay hi my name is Pete now hope you will I'll start like that yes I'm doing marvelously well I'll just do everyone's catchphrase and just throw up all in there just don't why go with hope I hope you will why not just go with I hope you're alive do the Glenn frickin thing and just go you're a back of a asshole yeah suck you can't create music yeah yeah do that yeah anyway that's the John Pete's channel coming to your YouTube soon folks let's go to the first song this is from I said it'd be very light it is very light and it's also quite long as well I always say if a song's long that's a part of the song because can it hold your attention for that period of time is you know if you see me suddenly going and scrolling Instagram you'll know that's right so this is from a brand Alexandra let's pop his name up there he deserves it absolutely we can do I think the song's called moonwave he says second song finished since I started writing again I never intended to release any of these songs I wrote wherever came to me and directed it to serve the song itself rather than a target audience I struggled to write short songs especially ones that with a slower tempo and this is definitely no exception to that had a lot of trouble with this one as far as mixing and getting the feel right still not entirely happy but with it but a bit fatigued appreciate any feedback you get like that towards the end of a song doesn't he can get a little bit fatigued yeah does now just a quick equipment list you know I like this is blue got there I was saying to remember Brent sent one in before and he's got a little equipment list that makes quite nice quality music a blue bluebird se Mike a focused right scarlet 2i2 an alvarez acoustic and a fender telecaster nothing to over the top there beautiful so listen to this song I recommend that people in the chat do make a contribution and help Brent Alexander out with this and also let us know if the song holds your attention for the full five minutes and 67 seconds how can it be 67 seconds it can't be can't five minutes and whatever it was I like that my microwave lets you put 80 seconds in there and I do it all the time if I want to do something one minute 20 and just go 80 seconds or I'll go one minute 80 and it's like oh you know me any see you really know me I said oh it's gone the shallow water come from the moon she would burn the dark the shadows in your sinking home just like you you won't trade muddy water the seals swallow you you won't trade there's so much in you people swallow you there we go we hear Pete Johns is not on his phone no so he's ready to get it ready to give me some feedback I am and look I was I was listening and I was also watching watching the chat and see what other people had to say as well which I thought was very interesting stuff too first up I love the song it did engage me for the whole time I live in the sucker for dynamics and that one had dynamics out the wazoo probably not even the volume the volume was pretty consistent but the stereo field use was really good in that one the slowing down like the speeding up and slowing down the tempo something I know you're a fan of like and something we don't see enough in modern music because it's so easy to be on the grid that it's hard to slow down and speed up and have multiple tempos yeah there was a lot of comments about the vocals and I'm actually interested in your view on this Mike because we're old blokes and the vocals to me had had more of a 70s and 80s style vocal treatment and what I mean by that is the vocals were were nestled in there and they were floating in there with the guitars and the other tracks they weren't sitting on top and upfront and present which is more of your modern 90s 2000 style of mixing vocals a little louder and a little more compressed and upfront I actually thought it worked well for the style of the music so I was personally a fan but I can see what folks were saying that maybe it didn't what what did you think of that one to me I'm a bit old-fashioned with this it sort of depends if it's a lyrics song or not you know and I didn't feel this was a lyrics song I thought this was a more like a mood song yeah you know so I wasn't bothered by the fact that once in a while yeah the vocals weren't on top although well you're just making me do all the feedback now aren't you this is your trick isn't it is my I got other things to say but I'm gonna I'm gonna say something which I thought was a little to steal a word that you used often on your show I thought this may sound a bit wanky when I wrote the notes the people in other parts of the world wanky means doesn't mean people I just pretentious yes nobby so I put in my notes you know a little muddy in the low mids I hate it when YouTube is like us say that sort of thing but I was glad to see that someone in the comments center and then I felt sort of you know yeah so I definitely feel that there was a lot of things competing with the vocals yeah a little bit of acoustic guitar some of the keys some lovely pad sounds in there and things going on and the vocals were occupying some of the same space yeah you know and and that's we're all got a little muddy for me you know so yeah I don't think Brent's here live but if he's watching on the replay it's it's sort of simple but some of you need to practice a little bit is just use your EQ mostly you can use dynamic EQ as well Brent if you want to get fancy with it but use some EQ and another little tip I talked about it last week with Dan is to automate that EQ so in the sections where there's no vocals or what have you you can give away some of that frequency range back to some of those instruments but then when the vocal comes in this is where dynamic EQ is good as well or automated either way doesn't matter but you can then scoop out some of that area in those instruments and and probably for the vocals that may help to give it a little bit more space but also for the guitar and the keys were really fighting for that space as well yeah there was a lot and again I'll be wanky to you there was a lot of competition in the mids and originally I said because I really liked the bass guitar on that I thought it was a really subtle bass guitar tone and I think I mentioned this last time I was on the show but a lot of folks are hesitant to have a bass line that is up a little higher up on the on the top couple of strings and I think this one worked really well at the start but maybe for some variety like you say maybe start like that but then when you really need those vocals to pop through then you can maybe take the bass down an octave and that does a couple of things it frees up that mid-range and it also adds some low ends a lot of folks said kind of lacking in the low end and I probably agree with that it was missing lots of pads but all the pads were in that mid mid range and even if there was just like a bit of a wobble kind of or a bit of a low string pad that was just doing some cello work or something like that down below I think that could really work for a song like this so that's just another idea I had but Mimo actually said something she said the strings are on the right and that was that that was sort of annoying his probably ears where he's like oh I want everything to be balanced and I was after he said that I was listening to the balance of the mix and I actually liked the fact I don't know I'm a bit old school I like the old four track recordings where the drums were on the left and the right that they did make it the 16 because I just find it funny but I don't I don't know I don't think a mix has to be a hundred percent balanced down the guts all the time and you can have some things coming in on the sides if they're not instrument that they're the whole time that's distracting but interesting isn't it because yeah I mean sometimes we can fall into the trap of trying to reproduce everything we've ever heard in commercial music and then start thinking oh there's a right way of doing things I think if we can get again a bit wonky but if we get a bit arty-farty it depends how it makes you feel doesn't it like if there's an in balance and something's because we've had some tracks here in there where something's right over to one side yeah if that kind of creates some tension because it feels a bit uncomfortable artistically that would be a great thing wouldn't it potentially yeah you know yeah and that's why I don't mind I don't mind that with the stereo because I was listening to that and the guitars actually did a great job it was a really good guitar tones because there was a couple of guitars there they had they had slightly different tones which is always a good idea and they were separated so I would hear and it was all it created a lot more of that swimming sort of feel and you talk about sort of the art of of creativity and making you how you feel I felt like I would love to sit back with my eyes closed and put some decent headphones on and just let that swim around my head because it felt like it was almost it was definitely in the stereo field and almost felt like a 3d space because of the delays that were on those guitars it was coming back and forth and it was swimming around and again it reminded me a lot of I was kind of think who does this sound like and at first I thought it was more sort of 70s and 80s style but it's actually a lot like a lot of the 90s and 2000s Australian artists like gotcha and Leo and Pete Murray and Josh Pike and these sort of guys that you know they got an acoustic background but they add in a lot of these nice sort of elements such as your pads and your league guitar bits that kind of just make a song interesting so it's still laid back and chill still telling a story but it's yeah it's just got these interesting so I actually really liked I thought I liked it too. I thought it was a really nice chilled track Danny Gables suggesting Alan Parsons. I'm saying Danny Gables who is Danny Gables real? Did you catch that? We learned that Danny is maybe not a not a not a true identity. Maybe he is Alan Parsons and he's now here trying to promote Alan Parsons music to young people like us. So a scammer in a Facebook group the other day that said that so it must be true. Let's go to a break. Thankfully folks you'll be glad to hear that me and Pete are not supposed to sing. I was going to say I'm really tired mate so I'll be from freestyle rapping in a district in Aden's can we just play them? I will say that the last song in terms of the length was fine for me if and and Brent mentioned that he wasn't aiming this at me he just created the music for himself in a way which is just good. If you were creating the music for yourself and you were trying to be very very commercial you might rethink the song length I guess and could be done with that song I think as well. That's if you're trying to be popular and one of the things you can do to be popular is get on playlists can't you? One of the ways to actually get your music heard on Spotify is to get onto a playlist. Now DistroKid offers a really fun way to get onto one of their playlists with their Wheel of Playlist feature. Simply head over to your DistroKid account go to the top right where it says goodies then go down to Wheel of Playlist and then you start off simply by selecting a song something you've already released and then click on connect with Spotify. Now obviously the further up a playlist you get the more likely people are to actually hear your music and enjoy it. So what DistroKid do here with this feature is they give you three chances to spin a wheel a kind of a Wheel of Fortune type of thing going on here. Now the best result of those three spins determines your number in the playlist and as I say the higher up you are the better. So on this occasion I achieved 1088. You can try every day if you like so maybe that's something you'd like to do to actually get your music in a playlist on Spotify. You know when I made that little thing like many many months ago I accidentally had the reverb switched on and my mic and if you listen you can hear it. I was wondering that I'm like do I have to have my audio moving here or something or is that mic's fine. I'm like probably I've listened to that 25 times since I made it and I think I don't care. Why shouldn't voiceovers have echo on them. Next time I want you to do the inner world that's the voiceover. If you want to make your music shine get on the DistroKid. Yeah maybe not. Nice to see some people arriving in here. Let's say hi to a couple more people. Hi. We've got Jeremiah in there nice to see you. He was a bullfrog once I heard. Jeremiah was a bullfrog that's what I heard. I don't know what he's talking about but he was a good friend of mine. Joy to the world. Nice to see and I hope I'm saying that correctly and nice to see that he gave a light before we started. And yeah thank you to say hello to one more person who did we already say that was what I was looking for. Princess LDG's kingdom. Hello princess from over from over on the studio live today. Community a very nice member of our community over there. Princess LDG's kingdom sounds and I don't want to be rude here but it sounds like one of those emails I get for a game company that want to advertise. They all want to be on creative source for some reason. Yes dear creator from manager. That's right dear manager. Dear manager please consider our game. We'll give you 100 free gold. I noticed last week or one of your shows I was watching during the week because I do. I do. I'm having a cup of tea. In fact you put a social media post you were reacting to the porn chats that were there. I had a lot last week as well I think I had the same ones as you actually but I was looking at your show and I was noticing that you get those and it's because of your filthy mouth isn't it. That's what it is. Yeah and that's why I've started getting them on my show as well. Yeah so just they hear me say wanky or Jeremiah they're just like this guy won't say anything. Crazy we better get over there. People are definitely going to click on these triple X cam links. The weird thing is that the fact that they exist means someone's click on someone's watching your show and thinking actually I would listen to this next song but actually rather go and have my identity stolen. Yeah I'm looking at me Mo. Yeah I'm looking. Don't kid it was I can't look at it. I notice they left quickly after your show. Anyway let's move on to the next song that we have. I did say increase in intensity so we're into the middle to the middle rank now. This song is from Jay Pilkinis. It's called Still Raining and you see I thought I'd send you a song whose mix represents a conflict between three elements each one struggling to dominate. This is a quasi blues number called Raining. So the conflict in the mixing is between the vocals which have to carry the song the guitars which give it structure and horns which hopefully give it a unique sound. I'd like to try and get my words out. I'll get my birds waddled here Pete. It's like trying to choose between your three children. Sorry easy choice. They don't watch my show anyway. You can be really honest about which one you... can you be really honest about which one you love best. Anyway I tried the best to balance the three and got those results. Is he still talking about children or the song? We'd love to hear some different opinions and approach in this song. Let's have a listen to this song and Still Raining from Jay Pilkinis. Can I just say here with that intro just that beginning I'll forgive Pete if he needs to go off to take a bathroom. Ending again. There was a couple of middle-aged men but anyway. That was a production. That was epic. That was a word that I would say for that because just starting with the thunder clap and then just kicking in and it moved through. It was almost like I hear the whole three children thing and which one would you go with and I like it's a hard one to go with. I know a lot of people make a lot of comments and I'll talk about that in a moment but first up it's got wow factor. There's passion in there. There is just so much going on that it really just takes you on a journey. At no point was I like when's this going to be over. I'm like what's coming next? Where's it going to go? How's it going to be? I absolutely love the horns in there, that horn arrangement. Bubba who knows his arranging as well. He's here in the chat mentioned that he said that someone knows their horn arrangement. That just sounded so good and it worked really well. The way the lead guitar and the melody of those horns was just sort of working together. That word really, really well. The drums to me were the thing that stuck out in a not pleasant way and I think Jade Star mentioned the same thing in the chat there as well and I don't quite know what it was they were. They weren't the right type of drums and I don't know if you've got views on this. The right type of drum for that track and I think you almost needed some splashier almost not brushes but just a subtler hit on those where it had a really big thump kick and a big crack snare which would be great if it was a big stadium rock song but I think it didn't quite fit the bluesy kind of vibe that I had in that song. Yeah you wanted something powerful but there was so much else providing that power that I thought it was just a little bit overcooked in that but I love the horns. The lyrics unlike the last song I think it's exactly what you mentioned in your feedback about the last one but the flip side of that that you did want to hear this story so the lyrics being more upfront was relevant and worked well. I think when everything else came in same sort of issue as we had in the last song there was so much in that mid-range the lyrics kind of got buried so you might need to either do some automation to bring that up or like you said some dynamic EQ to just chill everything else especially in that pre-chorus it was a brilliant build but I couldn't hear the words of the build and I was really following the story so I wanted to hear all of that so as much as I like to hear a big crescendo the vocals almost had to automate up with that crescendo and the other thing I'd say is overall I think in terms of because it's fixed my mix I know not fixed my master but almost seemed a little bit overcooked in the mastering it was a little bit too intense and it was almost like a frequency overload I don't know whether it was limiting on the master bus or something that was just bringing everything up but I'd just love to hear because there was so much dynamics and so many changes in there love to just hear a little bit pulled back and not quite that full-on sound so but yeah again epic took me on a journey and yeah really enjoyed it cool interesting just another show idea fix my master hey there you go could get a completely different type of porn link in the chat if we did that but overall talking about the master a little bit here I did feel that there was I just felt overall there was a lot which which was a little bit harsh at time in in the mid to the high mids okay I use a little tool called it's from Isotope called tonal balance which I sometimes just chuck on my master bus because you do lose a sort of context with with with this you know during the course of mixing and mastering you can get over and what's the word when you're over familiar with your own track and you just lose a sense of perspective with it so I find that tool quite handy folks if you just look that I don't know how much it is or whatever and I'm not promoting it there's no affiliates but I just do use it all the time and so yeah now I just want to address the horns I didn't like the horns I just didn't like them I like the horn arrangement okay but I did not like the horns I have a funny relationship with horns whenever I'd look at horn libraries if you're using virtual horns I always try the whatever you listen to them out of context they sound amazing you bring up the line being I'll just play a few like oh my god it sounds exactly like a trumpet or a sax or whatever he's doing and then for somehow for me whenever they're in a mix they sound like a synthesizer playing a horn sound and just never sounds good to me and that just was I was just sorry I'm a bit sensitive to it and but there is one just to promote another product there is one that I found that seems to work better just for in case Jay Pilkin has wanted to try this it's by big fish audio school to vintage horns like but I think they've got two of them and what they are what it is about them is it's not very perfect they've got lots and lots of things that are not very perfect about them when you listen to them you think oh it sounds like a really old dented trumpet or what have you but I found with those when I have used horns occasion in my mixes that they sit in a mix better and they sound like a real brass so just a little tip there because I was still not convinced and it was such a shame because obviously they were real guitars in this and the guitars when they came in and they did their thing I thought were great really sounding nice I was hearing this clash between something that sounded very realistic and cool and something to me which sounds a bit synthesized I'm being a bit harsh on people there you go my truth I agree and so I've just got this mental image of the horn library and like Mike creepily like putting a book under his jacket as he walks out of the horn library yes I think I think it is and again I find that that with a lot of those virtual instruments like you say they sound good they're almost designed to sound good as a solo which no one uses any of these instruments as a solo instrument a lot of it is that they're often quite harsh especially in some of that mid into the high sort of trebly ranges so yeah even it just rolling off some of that top-end from that horn so you don't get quite that harsh blast I think there's a lot of that in this so that's why I think of everything sounded a bit overpowered because yeah there was lots again lots of mid lots of a muddy mid to high build up there that was just making it sound a little bit too harsh and just softening some of that will I think we just add some sheen to it you could just rub your horn so the final thing is is that horns can be hard but just roll off the top end and you'll be fine so moving on what's it about Jewish sorry yeah I'm not sure that district kid are going to sponsor this show anymore or they're going to double your salary you know either way I don't know I like district kid they're cool people that might go this is exactly what we want or or either way folks look overall they quite a nice brave song great entertaining song actually and kept me interested after this little break we're going to be going to my final song which as I promised is a bit of a crescendo intensity intensity if you do follow the link in the description down below it's going to take you to a special page on district kid with this yellow banner at the top that banner is letting you know that you're going to get a further seven percent discount off your first year if you sign up here and let's face it it's already very cheap if we scroll down we can see that years membership is $19.99 per year for an unlimited number of albums and songs and so long as it's your own music there are no extra charges and you get to keep all of the royalties from the various platforms platforms like Spotify Apple Music Tiktok Pandora Amazon Instagram title iHut Radio Deezer and more Kevin was just saying in the chat there and he may well be right I haven't thought about this occasionally real life horns sound like samples too you know what most of us probably don't mix horns all that much so I wonder if it's something never have I'm doing wrong in in the mixing of sample horns I don't know could be because it's not really a speciality of mine but no no I'm all about cowbell that's what I specialise in mixing cowbell by the way I tried the wheel of playlist after your first promo and I'm at position number 1620 so if everyone could go over and listen to 1619 other songs you'll get to hear one of mine if you do that and I'm sure you'll have better either worse like somebody the other day in one in my group did say I think they got in the top 10 or something these days so it happens sometimes yeah I think I think you got to keep doing it every week basically I don't yeah no I don't either but it's an option that's a cool thing district are always thinking they've got their little meme videos and they've got their the promo cards I was using those this week and a lot of people use those and they work really well so and I'm terrible at promoting music if people ask me questions about how do you promote music I don't care uh yeah Damien Keyes he's a British bloke and he has a great channel all about Damien Keyes so if you if you're into the whole wanting the 21 day single release plan and how to Spotify and how to submit to playlists and all that sort of stuff I just handball people straight over to Damien yeah yeah cool all right so the last song is uh from take this in your best DJ voice if you could please Pete I'll just pop it up on the screen here hey welcome back here to fix my mix with Mike and Pete this is a track by scapegoat they're brand new one it's called let them fight perfectly he's a professional folks I do admire him so much there's like there's Letterman there there's Letterman and and then there's Michael Parkinson I used to like him yeah and then we've got Graham Norton then we've got Jade Star and just below that is Pete Johns he's very near the top don't forget Michael be out there in the parking lot with the ice cold big and chocolate milks next to big air boring he's a creepy district kid hoodie so the final song from a band called scapegoat we can say I can't remember who sent it in but one of the band members if you're able to include this song and fix one of the mix I'd appreciate I would appreciate it says in brackets I appreciate you already for all the knowledge you've provided oh this is an original from my band um it's called let them fight and this and the song title is scapegoat I recorded mixed and mastered it myself um the best I could I won't tell you how many instruments recorded unless you ask I don't want to influence your perception beforehand how mysterious I know I like it you're mysterious okay let's go and have a listen to this song then wake ourselves up a little bit let's do it choices that you make can't just stand up one day yeah and expect no resistance where sea is your true no time for end the dark starts with a spark the flames getting high there we go first I'm going first I'm going first I'm going first okay during this week uh Susie who still works from home um because her company I don't know still think we have something going on you know why am I going on she works from home and um and uh she spent her week accounting as she does but also watching a whole bunch of Metallica concerts for some reason she was sort of rocking out I don't it just looked like a weirdo to me yeah just had her earbuds on doing her accounting well that's accounting not just counting can you count my subscribers again honey hundred and how many thousands out anyway she was rocking out and she was saying to me do you know what babe she said they're great musicians they're really good musicians and I was like it's a bit patronizing isn't it what did you think I'm going out of the limba tell her actually reasonably talented she's like all metal heads are just dumbo's you can't play the instruments is that what you assumed me anyway and everyone's everyone's gonna hate on to but no I was struck I was struck and I always am because I'm I don't listen to this kind of music but um the musicianship was really good like really really good if you very tight in places you know really really good I'm just impressed and also the um the composition really to be honest with you in this was it's not that different to classical music to be honest with you it's really not direct connection there are two closest genres going around classical and metal it's yeah yeah just the the dynamics of it and the the changes in the arrangement and the changes in intensity in this track just I loved that I thought it was so good it was so good I guess the the um that you listen to certain genres of music because they are in some way matching where you are mentally spiritually psychologically as a person and I don't dislike this sort of music because of the music it's just I don't often find I'm personally in that space where I want the music to reflect my mood in that way so does that make sense so yeah so I actually really respect the music very very much yeah but um yeah that's not where I find myself wanting to reflect you although I could some mornings with the kids sometimes yeah sometimes as I'm as you frantically getting breakfasts and lunches and getting kids to school and things like that yeah but my soundtrack is frantic frenetic metal I can tell you that yeah cool so with all that said I was glad to see that Jade Star was in the chat because she's much more expert than me on this and was agreeing with the first thing I had to say is feedback with all that preamble the vocals seemed very very dry to me um and a little exposed and I didn't I wasn't sure because you know there's certain norms if you like in certain genres of music and I thought is this just me not understanding the genre but I just felt that they I didn't think they needed to have a big whole bunch of reverb on them but just a little bit more than than what was there I felt it would have just sat in there and maybe with that changing throughout the song I think someone mentioned that maybe that possibly an automated reverb where it was a little more in some places than the others but apart from that I actually felt that overall there was a bit of low missing in this song as well whether that's just as simple as the bass guitar should be a bit bigger in the mix or or what have you I'm not quite sure but I just felt through these headphones which I use every single day of the week that um that it was just lacking a little bit not a lot but just a little and apart from that's all I have to say I really kind of really enjoyed these strings to be honest with you I'm really well played by the musicians involved as well absolutely yeah well for me my favorite or probably in top five bands of all time is a band called tool and that was very tool-like perfect circles another band that's that comes to mind I yeah I really dug I find it hard I found it distracting to try and critique it because I just wanted to rock out to it because it is it is my jam these days as I get older I get more folksy and more acoustic-y but this was me 20 years ago this was all I was listening to um yeah I agree with the the vocals with a little over overloaded at the start and then it got a bit buried and it was definitely on the dry side like you don't have to it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be 80s hair metal reverb like with all the big long reverbs and delay tails but a little bit more and weirdly for a song like that I think the the vocals could have even had a little bit more of a rougher sort of edge to them and even a little bit of distortion or something on those vocals just to I know the guitars were so heavy that I think the vocals kind of did get a bit buried by that I'm going to go out in a limb and say that the person doing the mixing in this band is probably the guitarist because those guitar and I say that with love because I was guitarist we tend to mix our guitars as we think the guitars should be front and center and the highlight of it and this is actually a very good guitarist because I you I think you you're on you're in the anti shredding group like me whereas people that shred you better shred really well and the shredding solo that you had sort of towards the end there I was all ready to hate on it and say don't do it don't put a cliche shredding solo in there because sloppy shredding there you can isolate that audio for later but sloppy shredding there's nothing worse than sloppy shredding where it's not in the groove it's not on the beat it just sounds like a hot mess this sounded really good and I'm a time signature nerd too and I was trying to count in some of those sections uh we had bits of five eight some six eight and even some like eight eight sections in there like through that chorus or pre-chorus section it changed up almost every second bar and I love that because I love the idea of you know people just trying to mosh to it and then wait hang on where's where's the first beat I can't do it um and again tool use that a lot so um yeah I could imagine that scapegoat have probably listened to a lot of tool in their time as well but no epic I loved it I thought it was cool and yeah I think a little bit of tidying up there with the the vocals and maybe a little bit more beefy in the low end and um yeah nothing you're home you're gold cool thanks so much to scapegoat for sending that in and it's just another reminder I might say that um any genres of music will be accepted on the show if you submit them um regardless of the biases of the host or the guests of the show um we're prepared to listen to anything even sometimes I have I must admit folks I've for people who have emailed me some songs which um I've had two or three which are seven eight or nine minutes long and I've I have hesitated to play them on on the show I don't probably and I don't like to play half a song either because I feel like that's like showing half of a picture to someone yeah I do that I was just thinking just to end the show if I move over this way a bit can we do one of those half and half well we you you're gonna go yeah do we say goodbye to folks gonna get my good friend folks thanks for being on the show yeah uh it's been a great fun uh hello I hope oh no I'm looking a bit too tanned I need to I need to fix my white balance it looks like yeah looks like you're the sun half the sun uh yeah thanks for being on fix my mix I hope you've enjoyed it other half of mic we'll see you next week bye have a mouth wide open mouth wide for a youtuber shot