 All right, well, thank you We will probably be able to go for about I don't know three to four hours ish I won't be here that long. So when I say we I really didn't include you. I was like the good slime Slime. Yeah, but like our I'm not slimy. You'd be slimy after a shower depends on what you were show it in Well, then it did it wrong. Oh So the slime people who like this lime showers is like wrong now Yes, no, they're just gonna be gooey. They're wrong and racist and probably ugly All right, well, you know what? They're fucked up, but well true farts true true farts Yeah, true farts. I don't true farts. No, it's serious on the NB. Why? Yeah, and be why I don't know that one Me neither. I made it up. Oh Yeah, I Just got all of my research is to organize to figure out what it was and you tell me it's a lie Yeah, good good annihilated boop and then flew You'll just test it out the to make sure it works I think it does work. Why can't confirm it. Why? You can't why would I buy any of these except invincibility and Minikid detector. Why are? Smelly whoa They're over the chat for you. Look. I have your order Yo, yo, yo, yo Here's question mark gonna be I don't remember you are smelly Wait a minute. Is it unlisted when it should be public? No, it is public, right? I Got it from the public's Wow Metal was first. How did you manage that? Did you somehow discover that we were live when no one else did what is this information you procured? That's my my magic monkey brain. I wouldn't be proud of that for you Well, I am Well that shows what it takes to impress you Mel and that's embarrassing. It's what that is Wasn't any meal a little crown. You're just jealous cuz you don't have a floaty car like Yoda does true. I have floaty keys though. Oh That little Coruscant I'm gonna get music. I'm gonna have to deal with Really, I thought I said no music. Oh I'm gonna have to just turn you down every time you try it video game willing And I'm ready. Okay. Try it. We've evolved to episode three Look, it's just like the movie Still go up there. We go. Oh, who knows what they'll skip in this one. Yeah. Well, at least we got the opening battle That's something. Oh, yeah Exciting sequence that I want to play Are these my only weapons this seems kind of shitty on I miss the mini-kit down Listen be erasing I'm helping base. Oh It's like if you hold it down, it's shitty. I understand. I remember these being the guns Although I got the virus I'm single-handedly winning this war What have you done with your lives? I'm pretty sure you've been using both of your hands Well, it's a it's an expression. It means me alone and I will express to you that you're fucking liar I want to roll today. I'm okay with you saying that, you know offline telling people I'm lying publicly It's gonna ruin my reputation. What are you doing? So So people what a fraud you are proud proud That's one flowered. Oh Remember being like this in the movie The lot more Lego Which is probably the correct thing to do. Hello everybody. How do you do hi? I'm fine. I'm doing okay. God damn it. Molar and gaming right now. Well, this is perfect We're here today to carry on catching up with good old episode one two seven Which is our worst movies one two seven one two seven not one through Why would you stop? Yeah, once you like tfa. What's that about right? Hmm? From one from one to seven But why? Well, I was asking if that's what you meant. Oh, no I just don't see why anybody would choose to watch just one of the sequels, right? You're all enough and surely But but Moller, that's the good one. I don't think people even say that anymore Good shit, I destroyed the bridge the Lego bridge But you're not to do that and say anything about that Give mini kit I haven't died yet, so that's you know good good good good job. Good job. Oh, thanks. Oh My god, I'm gonna fly through the hang it and I got the mini kit. I'm just so good This is like a checkpoint this feels dangerous. Why didn't I go above? Important thing is I'm winning. I rate this stream a tomato because it's super chat ketchup. Oh, oh We can build it If you could add anything to Ari full, what would it be? I'd give Leon better weapons and mysteries mode as well as add Luis to the mode. That'll be about it What do you think right? What if I would add anything to it? Assuming that better graphics don't count If I'd add anything to it yeah, um I I I don't know Without just outright changing some things because the the issue is that it Residual force issues don't really stem from the fact. It doesn't have enough of something I Mean I mean I guess if they balance them well, it can't hurt to have a couple more weapons Maybe it's not a big deal, but if we're just straight up adding things to it It'd be really nice to have more models for enemies that game is Could definitely benefit from having a few more models for enemies particularly villagers. Oh, yeah The game just needs more models for them because there's like seven villagers and you recognize them very very very quickly because it's often the same one over and over But I don't know is it in terms of just strictly adding things straight up Mechanics wise, I don't know. I Still know how I feel about the blocking damage with Like weapons, I don't know if I would put that in a resume before probably not May if I was gonna do a remake of it I might add that as a mechanic and one of the statistics for weapons would be like how efficiently could block some damage But I'm not sure I Think I think if you executed it well that idea could work fair enough Like pistols and the knife would just basically block no damage Maybe it would stop grapples that could be a thing maybe it would just stop grapples by enemies. I think that could work I Rate this catch up a pickle see I don't even know how that makes sense Morning, it's like the evening for me offended by the eye As you should ah, I am now Anakin and Obi-Wan Dude, have you tried out the bath and the bath and the character already did you unlock it look her? Is she the one with the it's the one I played yesterday with the spawn things and they shoot orbitals. Yeah, I Really like the character. That's really interesting. Oh, they're different to do difference Different authors depending on what item you have Pretty fun Why can't I just draw my own ship turn it into a another thing slagos Modding Final Fantasy 15 is great I can teleport slash enemies with links master sword while wearing the MSU spider-man suit PC gaming all the way that does sound cool Hope it's for them. How is that different from any Final Fantasy game? You know how fucking goofy they are I've not played much of any Final Fantasy, so yeah Maybe they're all like that Which is the most annoying misspelling a Dalmatian whether it's ti on instead of ta on or Michael Jackson Where you swap the e in the a or Hannibal Lecter? That's just Michael. I don't know what Jackson comes into that Wait, is the e in the a being swapped on Michael vowed both ways Oh, am I just I assume the name is Michael a EL Mikhail I Don't know why the Jackson part comes into it I'm pretty sure that's how you spell Michael Jackson the Jackson pot. Anyway, then if I Hannibal like to Am I forgetting is like to not with an O? Like tool it is with I thought it would be you know like a Lector. I don't know though Huh Sarah bus that would be I'll be friend. Well You know because of recent events our Lector is with yeah, it is with an e. Okay, I Would go with a Dalmatian one just because it's so it's so on my mind right now And I've probably done it myself. I'd be like, you know what unacceptable. I guess Dalmatian Not that it pops up much. It's not a word that you often have to type out Spell but yeah, I don't blame people for getting that one wrong though I don't typically blame you feel with names as common as Michael and stuff You should get those right but Mike or about but Dalmatian I would see how well the ones always get me when they're in videos I was like, how did that happen? And it must be that they think that's how it's spelled But then there's some where you're like, I know you know, that's not how it's spelled Obviously into the Qtul was a fun one Hey Hey So I need a thingy to get up there bool shite, that's what that is Rags is French accent is wonderful. True. Oh my ooh la la La la. Oh look at General Grievous is getting away with his old lego cape. Oh No, those are the good battle droids they have read on them to mean that they're more effective Will they stand up to my ground pound? Nope Well, that was tough Grievous certainly showed us On the risk of sounding like a total weeb I miss Japanese synth choir genre of music founding movies like Ghost in the Shell and games like Red Lit 3 both surreal and powerful Think I know what you're talking about No, I was here it can sound nifty if what you're thinking about is what I'm thinking about Bring it back is the overall goal here. I think you do it Japanese synth choir Bring it back Only the true fans of like that one exact yeah Like metal you're a you're a true weeb synth fan, right? sure Sorry Matt Disco Then the sun Japanese synth wave disco Yeah, after the after World War two You know being honorary Aryans and all the Japanese yeah together with the electro funk dance German, oh, I think it's an electro from spider-man True. Yeah. Yeah him. He was there. He was yeah. He was there. Yeah Yeah, the disco ball fell on him and he got electric disco powers Nice, I always knew that was gonna happen when I was watching it. It just felt right Yeah, yeah, it was set up properly Did we have a settle the water is wet question or is rags still wrong about that? No, we did settle it. I'm correct. I don't think it was settled. No It's funny. I've been said many things about how wrong you are And I'm just like the funny thing is that I don't really care that much It's a shame they're just wasting your time about how wrong they are Well, it's mainly their time because I don't actually mind whether water is ultimately wet or not like it's not really something I'm concerned about you can say I'm concerned about whether or not Obi-Wan will look like Alec Guinness by the time he reaches the same age in that show, you know that if they don't do that then you know I just My life is a lie. You know Greg. I must look like him Yeah, but do you have a spear of destiny? So I do it If I say yes, I Would believe you. Okay. Yes Yeah, you're of destiny. Is that from the librarian movies? You guys remember those? Yeah, I think so Wow Fucking suit battle droids Why are you guys so? Oh, I died Fuck you. Hey, you know this children's game is getting very difficult in this Bad well Isn't are we supposed to have our 2d2 with us? What's that about hmm? God, this isn't even remotely canon Yeah, all I want from a Star Wars game is just a little faithfulness to the films But I don't remember there being any Lego at all, but I'm allowing it Hmm. I'm a kind viewer I can suspend my disbelief And I can stop panicking nice You guys ever use the Punisher pistol in RE4, I think they asked this before but I usually I don't if I keep up if I if I keep a pistol at all. I'll use the red nine Yeah, I don't remember using it. I remember selling it, but Yeah, by the way all my 1256th playthrough I tried using the mind throw or it's pretty fun to use the more you use it the more ammo you get for it. I Just never use it Hmm Perhaps you should rinse a true RE4 fan would experiment with everything you were fake fan Are you a fake fan? I'm just don't I'm the fakes fan that ever faked fanning God just comes out and says it Yeah comes Here I don't play Halo 5 online. I don't like the campaign, but online is great Also, you can play the old halos online with mouse and keyboard I know you can play the old halos online with mouse keyboard. It's on PC. Yeah, the original Halo released on PC as did Halo 2 Lot of people don't know that Yeah, which is weird Like fans obviously hey look they don't have to know these things they do Why are you being so mean? Whoa, I just like was this general grievous is like private collection of studs because It's all mine now I thought he was Collecting lights and new burst lights new burst. That's it's gross Other studs What's wrong with the stud? Nasty. Yes, dude. That's fucked up. They say that. Oh god. Are we gonna get caught by ray shields? Oh, no by ray shields How did this happen? We're smarter than this Yeah, for the love of Zeb Hey down this is your shields and your lives. Oh Hi Well, the move was OP, but the game's droid because it's not even that good Well, can you do the downward link attack in space? Yeah, just kill all the enemy robots. Yeah Even when you're in the spacecraft, you do it. It's the best move Shopping through these fuckers like butter. Hey, I'll do D2. Yeah, I can take him back there, right? I Should get a mini kit for it Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do Everybody's favorite droid are two of house D2. I don't think it belongs to a house. Well, yes, you're paying Maltesers how much I have to pay to drop everything and do unbidled praise for band of brothers Um, I mean there is a universe where I would do that But I feel like there's gonna be people who are better suited who know more about like war and maybe like how strong the accuracy That was it. That's all that was for I could do that. Anyway, I'll tell you. I'm sorry. I wasted your time, buddy Um, but yeah, uh, I thought it was awesome. I'm just not sure. I mean, maybe if I was to like Look over a whole bunch of uh videos articles and like interviews to see what All the accuracies and stuff. But yeah, um There probably are videos celebrating how good it is out there. I just uh, I don't know maybe Maybe Just got here. What did you think of the zombie abortion you saw yesterday? And yes, that does have a double meaning high rags and mohler and not host Hi, it was horrible One of the worst movies I've ever seen and I mean it We're saying that a little too much these days probably Yeah, but this time like I really do mean it. It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen Most like one of the first movies as you said yesterday rags that was hard to look at like was visually terrible It was because it was like it's like everything was blurry That's uh, it's baffling Well, yeah, I mean People in chat. Have you seen army of the dead? If so, what did you think? and why Well, I won't need a why unless it's positive because uh, we uh went through it and What can really be said, you know, what can really be said? Zach's nose just sick versus army of the dead I mean once oh, I guess I'll Army of the dead shorter, but True army of the dead is shorter But it's also like it's not short either No, mm-hmm The thing about it. You feel the leg nobody wants to feel the leg. Yeah, but like justice league is in focus That's true. That is very true Like that's like comparing the two as to which one we'd rather what fringy would you rather watch snack snipers justice league or I'd rather watch army of the dead because it would be done with quicker It's kind of like ripping off the bandaid faster rather than killing it off slow But it's still a bandaid that's terrible of my fucking hair out. So You know, let's do that. I it's awful. Uh guys, it's terrible. It's blurry It's hot. It's hard to watch really bad. Yeah, it's hard to watch physically your eyeballs I think all of us left with like a bit of a headache actually After watching I had to go take a walk outside And look at the trees the blue The world in clarity the way that the world actually looks not the way that things look in zack snider's crazy world Just so that people kind of understand right if you have like your hand in front of you And then the other hand a little further back You can kind of see peripherally That it's not as in focus naturally That's just how it works zack decided though that anything that's not in focus needs to become Just unidentifiable like a blob that mixes in with everything else Well, that's sometimes we have scenes where nothing is in focus and you're just a blurry screen. There were Yeah, there were moments and then there was that shot where it was entirely everything was in focus And it was like it was like a mirage in the desert this brief Reprieve from this hell Reprieve yes So stare at something in the distance or if you're sitting at your computer stare just stare at your computer monitor, right? And just kind of let your eyes go a little bit out of focus And then take one of your hands and sort of put it It's kind of in one front of your eyes. So it's like halfway translucent You know because one of your eyes is blocked by it and the other one isn't and just move it around And that's kind of what zack snider's army of the dead's like if we're going to say that's what zack snider did I don't care. I don't yeah And I guess the thing is is because like it was on purpose and I don't care that it was on purpose That doesn't mean anything it makes it worse. Well, is I can't excuse it. If it was an accident I'd be like, oh, okay. Well, well, yeah, but You know, like if it was the whole movie looks like that it's like Well, it's insane. Well, then you could say well, maybe the camera was broken and they didn't notice it or someone Yeah, yeah, or maybe the maybe like the wrong file was put onto Netflix or something, you know, you could try and rationalize it But in this there's just It's it we were meant to suffer And I suppose because we've been talking about just the the the film making aspect of this film But don't get us wrong like yeah, this is this is very much a film that he made because it's long But yet all of the characters are extremely poorly defined It's impressive how often he does that where the movie is like three hours long four hours long And nobody really says anything about what they believe in Or it says anything about what it is that they care about or what they fear It's impressive There's a hundred setup with no payoffs But it makes me wonder if they were even on purpose like some of the setups that they made Like we just interpreted the setups when it's just he wrote some random shit He just wrote stuff that was irrelevant. Yeah These zombies here they dried out, you know when it rains they come back Yeah, but nothing ever happens. Yeah, never happens with that I guess somebody might say oh see that's like good world building because not everything has to be relevant It's like well if one thing was relevant that would be nice Like one thing that you mentioned Yeah, so that could have been that could have been the ticking clock of the movie is So and then when the weather changes, it's not some stupid ridiculous arbitrary decision for drama Sometimes the weather is just not quite exactly as predicted. Sometimes it comes a couple hours too early Sometimes you get a free even it comes a couple hours too late. You don't yeah Because you could have it be building tension in the movie where they just start seeing Like the day that they show up, it's a bit cloudy, which I guess would be a little weird for Nevada Because you know, it's probably clear all the time, but yeah, so they don't think anything of it It's like, all right, let's go and then maybe when they leave one of the buildings They see it's actually gotten a bit overcast and they're like Or should we should we keep doing this? Should we go like slowly over time, right? Maybe slowly over time So the audience can notice it and it's not actually called to attention until one of the people is like Wait, you guys notice that it's really dark now Yeah, and then they all sort of realize it's like well, you get that payoff with maybe someone's hand is on something Or you want to reward the audience for paying attention and noticing things The problem is that if that was in the movie You wouldn't have been able to tell because it would have been too fucking blurry to know what the weather is And yeah, and like maybe there's a big argument between two characters and then they start getting rained on and they both just go like Oh And then they run into whatever building they you know is nearby and that's and that's like our second actual point So there's never a payoff for the tiger. I thought there was gonna be a tiger. No, there was just that guy That's what people would say is the payoff. Oh, it's not one You guys are what kind of playoff we were expecting just out of curiosity. Oh, just Like oh, yeah, I assume that they would fight the tiger because they're making it up at the oh, shit a tiger That's kind of that's spooky and scary and they're trying to avoid it So you'd think that there would be a scene later in the movie where they fight the tiger Well, like a resident evil Yeah, they're guns And they're hiding inside the husk of a car and it's like trying to claw in it's reaching its claws in And maybe they have to cut off one of its paws or something and it there's like a fight Like a fight like there's maybe something interesting or exciting to happen No, I think that's which I suppose is my fault This is the tlj of zombie movies where it constantly subverts your expectations By being way Lamer than what you thought would happen Like sure it makes logical sense that they don't have to fight the tiger But like they kind of You as a moviegoer like oh, they're gonna fight the tiger. This will be so awesome I can't wait till they do that and the zaks like nah No and that's That's filmmaking and it's great that it is We uh We talked about um the the debate and all that fun stuff It hasn't come up yet. Looks like everyone must be really happy. I'm sure you'll get your fill I guess everybody's really happy with it. Then that's cool. Yeah, I'm happy with it. I thought I know I am I was pretty happy with it. So yeah, that's great Mel were you happy with it? I didn't watch it. You were very happy with it, huh? It was amazing I knew it because I didn't watch it because I don't want to spoil it for myself. Mm-hmm. That makes sense, right? didn't Oh god, I lego assassinated dooku. Oh boy terrified Oh I didn't even need to get told to do it. He's even more like Yeah, you know in the lego universe. I think it is even even more dodgy Very scared of him. We don't know what he's gonna do next um Rags all muller if you ever unlock the hand cannon by beating mercenary five stars of old dudes on all stages in re4 I did it but never beat pro so All five stars with all characters on all the levels Yeah, apparently. I know I didn't do that. I don't I don't know if I have done it. I'm extremely confident that I could but I don't I just don't think I ever cared to um But I've beaten professional Quite a number of times It's odd that you would do that but not beat professional Because I feel like if you have well, I guess it's two different types of skill playing the normal mode and then You know getting all the high scores and all the levels with all the characters and um the mercenaries But I feel like if you're good enough to do that Then you're good enough to be professional I don't know. Maybe you just don't care about professional like I don't care about The mercenaries and getting all those, you know ranks and stuff, which is fair enough Um James is like did I miss them shitting on all me the dead? I'm sure it's gonna pop up a whole bunch. Don't worry Uh, what do you call a marijuana when it trips a tumbleweed? Anyway, favorite robot in movies mine is ed 209 from robo cop I really like Marvin from hitchhiker's guy to the galaxy. Oh, yeah, that was great. I forgot about that guy That's a good one tough There are so many great robots in movies. Yeah, it's a tough one Um, I I unironically like k2so from rogue one I think that's fair. He should be mentioned at least I guess the thing is is um, I'm kind of leading. I just really like r2d2 I really like him That's a fair choice as well. My favorite robot. Is it in games or movies? Can I take the T2? Oh data from star trek. Well, that was another one. I was thinking about as well Yeah, it's a good choice. Who's the the android from aliens bishops. Oh bishops. Awesome. Yeah, bishops pretty great um Let me see because there's the iron giant is one that james. Yeah. Yeah. Oh walley My favorite I reckon wally would really get along Yeah, I really like the uh the battle droids from star wars the raja raja ones. I like them a lot I think first, you know with with all the issues of the clone wars. I liked how much attention the battle droids got There are a lot of funny jokes with them There you go. That's nice Yeah, oh wait, I'm on backwards. Where am I supposed to go? Let me see what other I feel like how counts right how line thousand. Yeah, there's a creep there's a creepiness to him um Would you put the wow in there? and where is that The wow we should probably not mention it at all actually Okay, it's fair enough. Um, just yeah Let me see what other ones kind of come to mind Oh, if we include video games and glados and wheatley you have to be oh, yeah, I put them in But then when you include in video games, you've got a lot a little like a lot That you can add in at that point. Yeah um Because you can have a bt from titan force who oh, yeah, that's right. He was pretty great Yeah, we're on cortana before she was destroyed. Well, put cortana as an ai so I guess she probably should I don't know if that would count I assume it would well if we yeah, I guess because it's not about them specifically being mechanical But that they're artificial intelligence. That's like yeah, they're not yeah organic Don't forget ultra on low. Well ultra on nobody's picking ultra Maybe if we just include that first scene if it was just that first thing then maybe maybe um puppets Uh bender. Oh god bend is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good luck with robots. Fuck Yeah, that's what I mean. There's a lot of great robot characters It's kind of it's it feels like people step off their game when they work with robots It's like they know they have to actually earn, you know Personality off. It's not just a human Uh roly batty from blade runner. I mean, yeah Yeah As with the film you start to wonder it's like wait when we say robots versus people we mean I assume androids are or underneath. I think androids counters robots. Yeah Robots is a very catch-all term. Um Let me see Dude, this is like one mission like damn. Yeah, we've listed. I think a fair number Um Hey rags, do you agree that Missouri is underrated? I love going to the Ozarks and Branson every summer But I must be biased as an mo resident I don't know because I don't know what the general opinion of Missouri is to know if it's underrated. I think uh Missouri is generally considered to be shitty by a lot of people Yeah, in terms of like in terms of like the metrics for like education and and income I think Missouri is like incredibly low on the list of us states Yeah, but I really like Arkansas. Well, yeah, that's that's kind of that would be the addendum, right? Is that just because it's low on those metrics doesn't mean that you wouldn't like living there or going there on holidays It means you go there and feel smart in well, I mean, I guess the the the big thing would just be that uh, it's It's um, you know, like that because of course wherever you go, you're generally fine. Oh, apparently I'm confusing Missouri with Mississippi Ah Wait, what's that? It's it's it's it's it's it has the advantages of being next to new york and being like high property value I know that you know this like it's in future armor It's the one place they always make fun of for being really shit. Oh, yeah I think new yorkers make fun of new jersey because it's like not technically part of their city Yeah, well, it's I mean it's I think they make fun of it in simpson's a lot as well I can't quite remember they make fun of it a lot just for a lot of different reasons because south park made fun of new jersey as well Kyle is from new jersey Secretly, yeah, um, I don't know. I get the impression that new jersey is probably like a cool place to be as well I Think most places there's some value to be extracted from them like in the world There's usually something I was going to some nice places in all the shit places, right? Yeah, exactly. Well, that's what I was because the guy said like the ozarks and that's that's the big lake system in uh, or river system in, uh, Missouri, right? That's probably yeah, probably is a really nice place lots of natural scenery And I'm sure yeah friendly because people tend to be friendly wherever you go Look, we saved the day Episode three opening scene complete. They actually crammed so much into that one of six missions. I'm proud of them, honestly Good Even mel's proud of you game. Good job. Yeah, have fun You sound sleepy mel. You're okay. I'm sleeping Didn't sleep a lot last night this movie kept me awake What what what movie what did you watch the movie? That's neat Oh, yeah, the army of the farts or something. Oh I hope you're okay. Sounds like a funny movie Uh I like clap trap. Um, yeah, he's fine I I I I can see why some people think he's super annoying. I feel like he's overplayed now, right? Yeah, I think that's the issue. He became too Overdone, but I Like him Oh god, are we jumping all the way to killing grievous? I guess that makes sense. Oh boy, that's really far ahead Well, yeah, I guess there was nothing else going on in the meantime. They didn't want to have uh political meetings We were I just press a to speak or something I gotta be chilling people. He saluted so hard that he punched his helmet Cody, you too. Oh, that's cool. My partner's gonna have to be a clone because we gotta have to Yeah, hope you're right mr. Claude Oh god, this is this is already up to the boss fight. I was gonna say the battle you'd expect like a little Adventure mode thing, but all right. Well, maybe that's coming next when uh, maybe this is phase one I think this is phase one in our discussion. We didn't mention of course Arnold Schwarzenegger and terminator. So both of us did Oh, you did? Yep That was the one that mollus said first I totally like on it For that brief moment. I was to close my ears Or maybe I saw something. I don't know my window's open. I'm gonna fuck you up grievous I got my link move no one can beat it. He looks pretty neat, you know He does general grievous is awesome Okay, does the gingerbread man count from shrek As a robot, I don't know Artificial life form Uh, hey guys, I hope you've all been well. Have you been keeping up with better cold soul final season should be coming up in february 2022? Also, hi rags Hi, I have not watched better fall salt. I've seen I think I watched the first two seasons. So yeah, we're all out of sync with that one. Wow. They just put two here I need jar jar give me jar jar He has good jumping skill you see I hear the right of a dead devil got his hands on another transformers reboot even as a hardcore fan I'm still not optimistic good writer or not your devil or transformers I'm assuming they're talking about transformers. I'm assuming they're saying that the right of a dead devil getting it Is like a is like a plus, right? So I'm assuming you don't want to hear about their devil from Look transor's been torn to shreds. So it's fine. Just let someone else try hope for the best That's the logic. Well, I would say the bumblebee was okay That's like tends to be what I hear about that one. I have not seen it, but I've also heard bad things about it I think what all I've heard is that like it's better than the michael bay ones Yeah, I think that's like Michael bay is better than zack snider Yeah, probably Maybe I gotta shoot it first ah Spinning tov is really good for bethany too I get over there without killing myself. Oh, I'll do it Excellent Uh, did you watch wisecracks video on massfax ending? Hi rags Hi, no, I have not I can only imagine. It's really insightful Oh, yeah Good old them um Talk about the politics of aotd Uh, what's aotd? Oh attack army of the dead. Yeah Um, uh, did you like that the president was gonna bomb the city on the fourth because it would be really cool I hate this movie. Did he did they say that? I said they were gonna blow it up on the fourth of july for symbolic reasons Well, they've gotten quotes that it would be really cool. This is like that wasn't in the movie, right? Please don't tell me that was it. Yeah, so I spied two american flag patches that were upside down Which is see commonly used as a sense of disrespect to the country or an insult to the flag The only thing about that is the fact that it's so flagrant made me think like are you sure there's no reason at all that it was the way that it was I'm pretty sure it it can only be used as a you like i've never ever seen it used this way But it can be used as a way of like in a period of distress or danger But that would make it seem very out of place that they would Flip their patches around like that when they're so gung-ho and the movie has the vibe that it has But that would be the way it is um especially considering like uh Batista has that las vegas patch on his chest carrier People saying it's kind of like distress cool Oh, yeah, but that doesn't really make sense in the context of like the characters and the movie what they're doing really Well, what would it mean to be a distress call like if it's upside down? What what does that typically mean? Is that supposed to like that's the last thing? I've never seen it used like that. Oh, well, I guess that's what i'm asking So if it's a distress call it means you've probably got like a flag at a base that you flipped upside down, right? Yeah, like maybe that people can see it, but that seems almost like an old-timey thing Where you would you know like from pirate. Yeah from like the era. Yeah flag upside down. Yeah Um, and in this like who who is it a distress too? They're all here together They're like, they're like, oh you're patched up sit down. You're in danger It's like well, we're in zombie infested vegas and the military wouldn't come to help them because That would be bad. Yeah, I don't yeah, it doesn't make sense in that context I think it's Zach Snyder being a prick Would you think so though considering isn't he like super into iron randy and stuff And uh, his movies are often praised for being nice to the military or at least the amount of steel was I think But maybe he's flipped that now. I don't know. I don't know. That's the thing Yeah, well, this is the issue with Zach Snyder where Both of them seem plausible, but that's just because he's an idiot So even though one of the context doesn't make any real sense That might just be because Zach Snyder's an idiot And he wanted to have that like maybe he read it somewhere And so he wanted it to be the case Because he sure as heck didn't have an issue portraying the militaries a bunch of incompetent idiotic I mean as for as for the other one. I'm guessing it's the camps which I found very confusing It made me confused as to the world and the timeline And it made me very confused as to the nature of that nuclear bomb and why it was happening. He killed the clone very Wait, he killed Cody. No, he couldn't have killed. Well, it's just a randy clone. I think Oh Oh, that explains how I got. Oh, no, it was Cody. What the fuck? But Cody doesn't die. I was Cody, but he's not dead. He's very alive Also, wow, I'm gonna play that level again because I didn't get the fucking thing Thanks, Cody. I know Cody kind of ruined it. Just saying Dexter's dino That's a great hub world and don't you disrespect it? No, I'm not. I thought that was cool. Dexter's dino. Let me see It's been a while since I've played this game Yeah, because this is like the first Star Wars lego game that sets off like the fucking Craziness that is where it is now. They're releasing the new one eventually and that's going to be the nine Films all in one I don't know how big of a game that's going to be like because lego has only gotten bigger as they're gone on I remember the Indiana Jones game being I really liked that one. That was so fun. They're just really chill They are incredibly chill games. Yeah Um Also, yeah, of course, there's the president pushing up the date Doesn't that fuck with the whole fourth of july thing that they wanted? Yeah, it does. I don't know why they did that It's such a weird thing. It's like, oh, by the way, we're moving it up in that one scene It's in one hour now. It's like, oh, okay But what about all the people outside, but they're gone at the end. So I don't fucking know what happens Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Well, like everything in this movie. It none of it makes any sense Like they could have they didn't have to have that you have so many options for you don't even need a ticking clock It could just be we have to it's really fucking dangerous and we have to get in or out Or they could say once you turn on the generator to make the vault door accessible or whatever It's going to alert the zombies. So that's like the that's the beginning of the third act is you flick on the power And you have simultaneously fight away the zombies or escape them while you get into the vault And that could be the that like the the the tension if you will as if that isn't a super tense scenario Anyway, it doesn't help that they couldn't they didn't have to make it a nuke. They could have made it a explosive Well, yeah, that's the thing we have you can have huge fucking off bombs that are just not radioactive Like I think he chose a nuke because nukes are cool and that's it. He just likes nukes because it like talk about suspension disbelief but Like oh the nuke's gonna hit us in nine minutes. Oh the nuke's here We've got 30 seconds to get out of its rage like guys. Do you know what a nuke is? You're dead. Super dead It's too light And it's like why invoke the nuke if you're not going to invoke the nuke if you get what I mean It's like what's the point he wants the big mushroom cloud in the background for his shot Yeah, but it was blurry. So okay How could you Zach? How could you? um But yeah, the uh, obviously the so you have Vegas is infested and there's people that we may not That maybe maybe not have been infected. It's like hmm. What do we do with them? It's like we'll put them all The years question mark in a quarantine zone that shares a wall with vegas. It's like what? Why would you do that? And then it's like oh those people are gonna need to get out of there too And it's like why were they there in the first place at the fucking? Why would there even be a quarantine zone for people anymore? It's been years either you're infected or you're not I don't understand. It's like they've got several people flowing in at all times. They're flowing back out Yeah, maybe they were applying like all these survivors like come out of this thing somehow But then they also let people in I don't buy it I'm just speculating the interesting thing to me is the I'm not sure how you guys feel about this But like if if they said You know, it's been years and that we're gonna have a team go in there and try and plunder some stuff I'd be like, isn't it probably cleared out by now? Like there probably were people that went in there. Do you guys know about um the cost of concordia? I know about this because of internet historian. Oh, yeah, that's not it when it was um When it when it like half sank Like one of the first things to start happening and with the people who were trying to clean it up They just started stealing stuff from it and the divers just came in to start stealing stuff It's like yeah, because that's how it works And I picture this there's many teams on earth That would be like, okay, so vegas is invested by zombies But if we're careful we can get in and out several times with all of the money in each casino and stuff like that. I mean And that would be a cool movie honestly It would be absolutely is like do you this would be one of the most important events in human history? So quote-unquote artifacts and memorabilia from a time like hey, I got a bunch of casino chips from You know from caesar's palace And there's like oh shit caesar's palace with all the zombies and stuff And that's crazy and just the chips from that place would be crazy expensive collectors items. Yeah Um, yeah, so the point being is just all the world building is as garbage as you'd imagine it would be with zaks And I just He wanted something specific. He invented a world that it would necessarily Be there's a result of like like he would have all the things he needed But then those things just they wouldn't work the way he wanted them to Zombies people go in money quarantine zone We did it The truth is he didn't do it. It's a blatant immigration metaphor. How though I'm guessing that that was what it was meant to be with the camps and stuff But I don't see the connection. This is this is the problem with um with tether the author, right? He's so incompetent that I don't know that you can make the claim that it was about immigration because it's so It makes no sense at all. Like you can't even piece together how it was that I think zack will often just appeal to a visual Like quarantine people in cages kind of get it and you're like, what do you get what zack back? Why are they here? Zach, please Rack said it like multiple times yesterday. It probably makes sense in his head because he knows what he means Yeah, yeah, nobody else does nobody else does. Oh people try we cover them on youtube I feel like you don't understand. It's so deep I said earlier before the stream started that zack snider might actually be a hard solipsist And he doesn't believe that other minds exist outside of his own So he just assumes that because all of these other minds are inventions of his his his his own mind That they just already know what he knows for some reason so uncivilized Hello, you absolute Massives a friend of mine believes movies can only be considered good or bad via general consensus of reviews general polls I can't convince him. He's wrong. What do also. Thank you all for everything you do No problem. I mean Just in Bieber. I mean, how do we how do we find it? Is it 51 percent? And then it's a good I would um, I would first appeal to just you know this guy, right? Find out. Well, just just go from memory. What movie does he hate that general audiences really like? Just find it. There's gonna be one. There's always one. Yeah And if he stands he loves the general audience's hate Yeah, that too, but if he stands by it then so be it if he wants to use that I would just argue then it's like it's a really useless standard. It doesn't get you anywhere Plus people's perspectives change over time. How does a movie go from Being of one quality to a different quality when it itself does not at all change Later on it would be the reference for it. Yeah, that's the even empire if you want to go wizard of Oz man the thing Do will he wonk in the chocolate factory? Yeah, and so yeah But if he's gonna commit to this these are just we're all we're doing is Discovering bullets. You'd have to bite. That's it. He'd have to say like, yeah These movies are bad until they're considered good and that's how it works. You're like, wow I guess you could always appeal to the do you really want to do the popularity thing the popularity of a position determines Whether it's correct or not. Well Yeah, because you then you could appeal to something like Well, can we real world stuff? It's like, oh, so like, you know, there was a time when they thought women shouldn't vote And that was like the majority opinion, right? And then slavery you could appeal to too Well, slavery. Yeah, that was the easy go to one. It's like people thought that was okay And he's like because how long slavery was a good decision But he'll probably but I feel like because the normie thing to say was oh, but this is movies Yeah, to which you need to explain us like why like what's the big difference between um, I don't know like like there's so many ways to try and go about this conversation Well, I think it's just people tend to be like, wow, like we're just talking about movies Not like real stuff like slavery or you know suffrage or anything like that So you have to like push it further. It's like right, but you understand that the reason why we can say that those were bad Was we were appealing to some kind of principle It's like, yeah, it's like so can we not appeal to any principles for films? And I don't know that anybody could actually on unironically say no to that Dude, if I Chewie and Yoda just show up and all these troopers just get the order 66 Yeah, oh no Oh, Yoda's death sound you guys can hear it a whole bunch now Um, but yeah, there's so many ways to approach this I feel like it's just a matter of time that you could whittle them on because I I don't think I believe anybody who says like good products are products that are wildly widely enjoyed. It's like No, that's true Nobody believes that I don't think there's farmers and Justin Bieber in twilight. Yep Yep Well, if they say yeah, they because well, I've heard it before we say like as long as it's achieved its goal You know as a product or something like that. It's like Yeah, its goal is To be successful To make money because that's what determines what's good, right? So like if a company Does uh pro like their manufacturing process is incredibly harmful to the environment, but they like to make a lot of money It's good because they made a lot of money Yeah, I feel like you start expanding this to so many different Just discussions and and if they keep saying well, this is that's real What's wrong about well, they might say like I'm talking about art art is all about The expression and interpretation of something and so the more people who vibe with it the better it is And then I suppose you could then ask him. I don't know. There's probably ways to get out of this question People like so if all of humanity died Is is all art worthless? I guess they might he might just say yes to that Yeah, all mines disappeared from the cosmos I mean, I guess They would I it wouldn't be that it gets worse It would be the the meaning ceases to exist because there's nobody to ascribe meaning to it If that's all he's judging by like things being Interpreted interpreted. Yeah But that's if that's what he's appealing are all interpretations equally valid to him How about you have because this this will be an interesting because you're I always like to go to like tools and cars and stuff because it starts to blur the line between art and Utility so it's like if I have a hammer It's really nicely inscribed and it looks fucking great and it's like maybe a star wars hammer It looks really cool, but it's glass It's like more commemorative And then everyone loves this fucking hammer, but it like the second you put it to a nail It's just gonna break like it's that fragile and it's like it's a ceremonial hammer Yeah I wonder if they would make that distinction Or if it would be like which one's the superior hammer the one that like the classic hammer or this glass star wars hammer And it's like which one is preferred the most it's like I don't think we should go by that Yeah the hammer or the disney remake But yeah, I don't know There's probably a couple ways you can approach it But um if they absolutely don't want to move on it you can just move them to tier two which is would you be interested in Sort of categorizing movies based on which makes the most sense and least sense to humor me as in yourself Assuming you uh you run with that one because at that point You know, I doubt they would say no, right? If you guys are friends you discuss movies Unless they find you insufferable because of it Geronimo says what's the big difference between movies and slavery? I'm no longer excited about old movies coming back. That's the difference Well, hopefully we get slavery back but for the the the the dirty gross people, you know Yeah The next thing will be slavery of machines will be like the oh, yeah, that's probably true actually issue Oh, yeah, yeah That's what I meant by the dirty disgusting people Data was one of my choices measure of a man's classic. Well, classic star wars or a star trek I thought you did that on purpose It is worth thinking about once we have toasters that are like driven by Artificial intelligence, you know, it's like I got my eyes. You put the bread in you push it down Yeah, who I buy it not without union pay Fuck you you can have soft bread Look, how am I gonna dry my wet bread though? Oh no and that shit You're gonna have to come to the bargaining table you negotiate some halt work vacation time Union pay that toaster as a family threaten to unplug it What you threaten to murder it Well, oh a murder. Well, yeah Well, is it better to plug it back in though? Well, I would so I would imagine that purposefully putting some human to sleep is probably a criminal offense of some kind And I feel like it would be comparable to doing that to a to a robot. I'm plugging it without its commission Well, I guess if the laws are in place, yeah, you could be in trouble right? Yeah I guess that's the thing is that the laws will probably eventually come into place for that Oh Yeah, hopefully that answered your question I don't know if being born is a privilege. It sounds horrifically painful and nasty and wet I'm glad I don't remember my birth Yeah, it's one of those things you just don't remember Probably traumatic Yeah, I wonder if I get It probably was traumatic probably just for everyone involved. Mm-hmm. Yeah What's up the doctor maybe to dog tour dog tour What's the point turn all these things on do I get a prize at the end? Hear me? Um Stop it. Oh, and this is this is the next one. I'm command. Yeah I'm commander toaster and fringy is my favorite host on the citadel high rags. You're really good at lego star wars Oh, oh, thank you. I've been practicing a lot lately. I want to give you guys something Something good to watch. I figured they would get it eventually. I'm just sort of commenting on rags gameplay I'm streaming it directly from his pc. It's pretty cool Yeah, these are my favorites The games to play Oh, wow, it works while I'm on the seat Okay, hey, nice Yoda's so lazy I mean, it's pretty cool. I will admit Uh, hooray UAE finally permits super chats UAE. Oh United Arab Emirates. Ah Here's my first ever for you lovely massifs. Well, thank you Uh, thanks long man for all the hilarious tisms also high rags Hey there What does batman get from the soda machine just ice? I see. Yeah, why would why would a soda machine give you? I guess some do Like it come and go some things Maybe as a refill Yeah, that's right. Remember when you're at a so we when you're at a soda machine and the lemonade option has the side Lever that gives you water Hold down the water thing for a little bit to clear out the line of the lemonade so that you actually get right proper water and not a No, fake water. Lemony lemonade water or punch water or whatever That's a that's a rags life hack for you right there neat You can take that to the bank and smoke it Oh This is an ATST run ATST ATST Oh no Yoda death sound People know one ATST. No Damn it. You made me lose my money clones. I'm gonna lose it again now too Damn their aim is pretty good But Yeah, coming goes great, um Coming goes from I I have I have one I have a like a rewards card and everything for coming go. They're fucking great I love coming go You can get a whole bunch if you use coming good So coming goes great because it's open 24 7 Which can be very useful if you're not around another convenience store slash, you know goody, you know Stockpile and it's You know late at night you got the munchies But their rewards program has a lot of really great options in it. I've I have gotten 40 cents off on gas per gallon before But damn son And they've got good deals on just all kinds of stuff and the people who work there are generally pretty nice The stores tend to be clean um And they buy it They they tend to I was I was talking to one of the cashiers once And they say what they do is come and go We'll always buy the property that it's going to be on So they don't continually sleep pay like the city or the town or whatever it is taxes for it They're very they're very invested in long-term locations for places That's cool. Um one by me they've got I I air up my tires there. Um One of my tires says Little tiny one not enough to worry about getting new tires, but every once in a while I need to put air in my tires and I go to the come and go because I have a free um air pressure gun thingy out front Come goes great coming goes really great. Lots of things trying to kill me. I'm very sad Why are the clones of the droids working together like don't they hate each other even once order 66 happens? Also, there's a lot. There's generally a lot of cops there But not because it's a super shady place that just seems to be where they like to hang out at around Three in the morning or two or whatever sometimes when I go and it's late at night The cops would just be hanging out there inside by the coffee section just caught talk talking about kashy Can talk about dr. Who and army the dead and all kinds of stuff. Why would they talk about that? Because they hate it and they don't make sense Oh, no Hey, brad. Did you see army the fucking they wanted to overdose on fentanyl and have a heart attack I don't see why there's so many of these guys here. I just don't get it. Oh my god. Look at them all I'm why they're working together. I know they hate yoda, but I it's there's war going on Well, this is crazy. I could have sworn they would they would attack each other canonically at this point, but you know I suppose yeah, they're talking about big onion. That's right big talking about that big Jay's video has an ironically made me like rethink my approach to making this video Give us detail. What exactly do you mean you want you want to talk about big onions? Kind of I'm going to reference all of the big onions and Mandalorian season one and two Hell, yeah, makes sense And I'm going to tie in like how they affect the story and how the big onions act as characters And the themes really Let's think it takes a while to talk about big onions because they're just so multi-layered Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree. I just I don't know if you needed that I don't need any I don't know. Oh, I don't need your disagreement now Not that you would because I'm I said I wouldn't so I should be all you need Proud of you regardless because onions Sometimes feel a little underrated. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not even a huge fan, but I don't know Not gonna lie. I I think onions are foul. I really hate onions. Yeah, we know what you said before Yeah, this figure is worth mentioning a bit of onion hate Okay, I hate the taste I don't hate them like it's not a food that I have some kind of a You know what you know what food I do hate turkey tails Try them once because they were really cheap and they're just not would not recommend There's just not a lot of meat on there. There's so much just fat and man It's just it's like it's clearly just like one of those leftover bits that they don't know what to do with Well, I mean You know, I'm not I'm not gonna disagree with that either because I don't even think I would have tried one It sounds it just sounds like something I wouldn't like Turkey tails. What about lobster tails? Um Well, that's the thing. I've never had lobster. I kind of wanted though. Really you haven't No That's crazy Lobster is expensive Kind of yeah Kind of it is expensive Oh, it depends where you go and I know how you get it and But yeah, I just but still I mean it's it's not it. Yeah, it's pricier than most other foods or many other foods, but Not prohibiting them. So or you know that you would have it's just odd that you've never had it, you know There's probably a lot of stuff I've had I've had it once Um, I remember I really wanted to have I remember really liking it I remember I just wanted to have lobster for a time But um, yeah, it was expensive Yeah, I think it was after I started watching Futurama Um Lobster tail episode. Yeah, yeah Well, no, just zoidberg Like jesus. Whoa Okay, I didn't want no, I don't think I wanted I think there was an episode with zoidberg where like there was a Lobster thing wasn't there? Oh, no way. It was the simpsons. It was the one with the That's right. Yeah now remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was simpsons. It wasn't your desire to eat zoidberg. That wasn't it No, zoidberg was one of my favorite characters. What would I want? Oh, I bet I bet real compensating now my favorite foods Oh, yeah, real compensation. This is the truth dammit Um, I love seafood anything. I have not had anything from the ocean. I didn't like It was it was that episode of um, it was that episode of the simpsons with the uh What what what was what did herma call it? Lobster No, I don't think he called it lobster. It was his pet. He had a he had a pet He had a like snappy or some shit pinchy. That's right. Yeah, pinchy Yeah, that's like your pet kangaroo and he cries as he eats it alone Yeah, that's right because he put him in for a hot bath It's so stupid I think like something smells really good. He's like pinchy Oh, yeah, that um, oh, fuck. What was it where he's like? Oh, look, he's so cute and he looks at he looks at him And it's like this cute anthropomorphized thing and then shows it's a march and it's this hissing fucking like monster Yeah Good times I've actually um, there's a couple of references to simpsons and now a dalmatian coverage. I've already put in Oh nice The the fucking joke that's like one of my favorite simpsons jokes when the in the 101 greyhounds episode Are they like you're you're doing things that are illegal Or something. He's just I know we've referenced it before. It's just such a great joke Wait, Mr. Bird's just trying to outdo him throws him a phone call someone who cares Immediately Someone's asking how do you get seafood in landlocked arkansas? What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, thanks to the i'm gonna give them benefit of the doubt They might have been referring to when you said it depends on how you get it and that maybe for a moment They thought that you were saying you could get it directly from the sea in arkansas And they were like you can't do that i'm that's the best benefit of the doubt there But I still feel like they should have phrased it better even if that's what they're saying They put it on trucks Yeah, that's And then they drive it here and then We we exchange it your fish is kind of shittier Is kind of the reality of it then uh depends depends on boat. No, it's frozen. It's frozen. No, it depends on It's a little shittier. You not think freshwater fish exist Yeah, no, I Yeah, but you were talking I thought we were talking about the fish that are getting shipped there I know that they're a freshwater fish, but what about the fish that are frozen and shipped to you? So it's like automatically worse all fish that are frozen are going to lose quality But yeah, if you yeah, but that's that's the point i'm appealing to is that if you live on the coast Like a real chad They're still they're still good, but it does just don't compare the place by the coast Yeah, that was just exactly what I was saying. Yeah, they're not shitty though No, I didn't say that was shitty. I just said that they uh, he said it was shittier. I didn't say that was shittier I said, yeah, shit. Yeah, shittier. That's right Oh um Why are they all attacking you? I'm yoda the jealous of my yodaness That makes sense. Uh, what does batman get from the soda? Oh, I read that I'm actually scared of professionally. You can't just restart every two four minutes I feel like I'll lose all my health and get stuck also really scared of it You can't really It I don't know if he means a particular boss or Yeah, I'm I'm curious which one he means, uh, but the checkpoints or the checkpoints and resident evil four are pretty forgiving Yeah, um, it's not just save points. It's it's whenever you It's whenever you essentially go into a new area or complete a cut scene or a story bit or Something along those something along those lines. There's a lot of there. There's plenty of Checkpoints and resident evil four and they're generally pretty forgiving Do you mean uh3? Do you mean vertigo? Oh, yeah, I don't know which boss you mean Yeah, and I'm assuming they don't just mean scared of it as a game because they capitalized it meant like, yeah, there must be something's hit something spooky. Yeah, I don't yeah, I don't know which um one you're referring to Uh, glad you made the tlj comparison an army the dead felt like a ryan johnson script But it was the worst scene and what was the worst scene in the film for all of you I feel like I already got one, but I'll let you guys go first The worst scene in the film the last scene in the movie where they forget that a character is this I think that's a good one. It's not the one I'd go with The scene where uh, lily shoots the guy and that's what I'd go with. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah And nobody knows anything about it So I was listening one of your yeah, wait because there's plenty of people who've never heard of this before So for those listening the simplest fastest way we could get this across to you without you having seen the movie is a group of people are going into the zombie infested las vegas and um before they enter The more like slightly dodgy. She's like a coyote. Um of the team She's gotten people in before and out before so we're using her to get it and it's like, oh, okay Before we leave she says no, we need one more It's like, oh, okay, and just so happens Guy that we've seen from earlier be a dick to someone turns up and he's like, hello And then she's like want to make 20 000 and he's like, okay It makes no sense, but we're ignoring that to get to the point So they all walk in literally just crossing the barrier between normal land and zombie land And then some zombies show up Specifically the zombie queen and some other one And they're like, oh my god, what do we do? Oh, no, wait, that's right before the king The queen the king and the queen. I think it's both of them. Well. Yeah, sorry. I skipped ahead They don't show up yet actually everyone's just sort of chilling and then you'll see it in the coverage because it's really weird I think they like, oh, we'll we'll move now and then she's like no no Gotta do something first and she starts moving toward the guy I think for you were you the first one to be like, she's gonna she's gonna shoot him I think we all kind of saw it coming Yeah, because we were all just like why I'm getting big vibes that she's gonna shoot him But that's why would she do that? There'd be no reason to and she's like, I want to see you get it takes ages By the way, because Zack Snyder is just Just wonderful. Oh, she like starts coming on to him. Yeah. Well, that's the point, right? She's trying to seduce him to get his gun off him and then she shoots him with the gun Well, I guess to prevent him from pulling his gun, you know Maybe yeah, I guess Either way, what's weird is that it's just a typical Glock and she's like, it's a really beautiful gun It's great and she gets super flirty with him randomly out of nowhere Well, he falls because he's just um, he's just a dumb man Because he needs to do for the script because yeah, so For anybody who's still kind of confused, right? So she shoots him. He falls over and everyone's like, whoa Why teammate? Why would you shoot one of our own? And then she's like, he's a dick He's a bad person. Trust me. She ties him up and then they give him to the zombies And they drag him away as he's screaming and begging for help and screaming None of them are helping, none of them are disturbed by it at all And when he's gone, they just proceed like nothing's happened because they're all fucking assholes Yeah, I would have to rewatch it for the wording But I think the idea is that if they give up a person to the zombies that they'll have a chill passage Yeah It's insane. She just says this. She just tells people this and they believe her It's absolutely insane. And they believe that he deserves it as well Yeah Yeah, they all just sort of allow it to happen and it's right at the beginning So it makes it really hard to care about anybody because they all just were like, yeah, you can sacrifice that guy I don't know who it is, but fuck it. It's not me. It's all good. He's bad. So I'll still trust that They don't know he's bad Like he's addicted to some women Yeah, and that's what we see. He's being addicted to some women But even that's not enough to die Yeah, so for people in chat who like want to correct like he was real bad It's like, no, no, no, none of the team know this. They just get told he's a bad person And even if he's a fucking rapist, that doesn't mean you execute him and give him to the zombies. What the fuck? I don't understand like what happened, you know, with When we just decided this is okay She gets like a heroic death and everything Wow, we knew that she was gonna get a heroic death Yeah, Zach Snyder's like moral compass points just like to the center of the earth It's really this atlas shrugged. Is this where you love to go? No, like I've read atlas shrugged. I don't I don't understand I I like brandy and shit. That's why I don't see that in any of his movies Like it's bizarre. I don't see that I've read I have read We the Living Anthem the fountain head I've read atlas shrugged. I've read a lot of iron rand's books and I I like them the most part There's a lot of good stuff you could take from it as long as you're not like don't dive crazy into it 100% but um I have no idea In what way he incorporates Objectivism Into which is her philosophy was addictivism. I have no idea where that is in his movies. Like I have I have no clue. Well, there's a lot of um a lot of people made videos of connecting all of his movies to it. I think they have yeah There's apparently through lines that exist, but obviously I haven't read them. So Isn't the one that they say that it's like the idea of um That heroes have like no obligation to help people and that people should be able to help themselves Is that like one of the things the people it's definitely a big tenet of objectivism is certainly a huge emphasis on self-sufficiency personal work ethic and the principle of like independence in a way Um, where you're not well, I guess I guess that's what I'm saying is like I'm pretty sure somebody said that was something that you could pull from his dc movies But I'm trying to remember what examples they gave Yeah, like I don't I really don't quite get it. Um It's I don't know. I just make fun of him for it. But Like not not in like a meaningful way because I don't know that much about So the iron ran.org has her approach to life as her philosophy Let me just let me just pull up what people say about because I'm not sure we need that I think we just need what people are trying to make the connection with let me uh, so Well, we just have five bullet points here. We could use so selfishness and her philosophy means follow reason not whims or faith Work hard to achieve a life of purpose and product uh, productiveness Earn genuine self-esteem Pursue your own happiness as your highest moral aim Prosper by treating others as individuals trading value for value I Feel like that's too reductive to be to be uh to be like a good I don't know if I want to like get to talking about about that topic. Um, it seems a bit too simple though Like if you pursue your own happiness Well as as as fast bullet. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course, right. Yeah, true. Maybe there is more to that But there's definitely I mean there's good there. There's bad there. It's It's it's something to discuss and talk about. You know, there's value. Oh, sure. Sure. Yeah You can take out of it. I think it's uh, I think it's the the thing that's per usual, right? It's it's rare that there's like any Political idea that is like inherently intrinsically just fucked. There's usually something that you can pull from it Yeah, I Apparently he wants the uh, well, he wants to adapt fountain head. That's like a big thing I know he's been given the fountain head and I'm I think he's getting it. Um, well As a there's an interview from a couple of weeks ago he he said that he so he Wait, let me see. I'll just read the whole article out He announced that his adaptation of the fountain head would be delayed citing the current political climate in the united states and Well, I guess we'll see the reason why um, but now he's saying that He thinks the world isn't quite ready for the movie He appeared on a podcast to talk about his approach to filmmaking With snider in between projects long naturally asked about the big screen take on rand's novel snider admitted that the current political climate Is too intense for a movie of this nature. It's a book that's politically charged that we need It's a book that is so politically charged that we need we need a more liberal government to do the fountain head So that everyone won't freak out or something A government to do the fountain No, I Wait, but why would it need to be the democrats? I don't I don't yeah, that's That confuses me. Also, um, you wouldn't it could be anything like why would you Why did it? Why does it need to be the government that like matches it? Yeah, and the fountain head isn't really about politics as it is about principles and values It's not about like the problem is that a lot of people will say that like that is politics Yeah, they would easily transpose that to politics. They'd be like, I think I think people would yeah I can't believe that's not I think he's bullshitting. There's no exact snider would be like no It's too cool. Let me let me let me see what else he said So he compared the fountain head to the construction of a house. You're making little compromises Constantly maybe one less story and it'll be very good. Does it really need all those fancy window frames? Maybe just make the windows you wanted to mention and you end up with something that sort of looks like a house For me, that's always what the fountain head was about for a lot of people. It's a big political thing But for me, it's not so much that well. No, it is because you're not going to make it because of politics I'm very that was going to be my question like I also like the idea that people aren't ready for something Zach is going to show them. It's like, okay, dude Yeah, the the original thing when he said that it was on the back burner was I don't know how that movie gets made At least not right away. We need a less divided country and a little more liberal government to make that movie So people don't react to it in a certain way. What does he mean? I don't understand him. What is he saying? I'm so confused You need a more liberal government so that you can make the fountain head. What are you talking about? For those who aren't aware like the fountain head and atlas shrugged in particular Were like the mega inspirations for bio shock in terms of its story and narrative I feel like that's gonna get hard to miss if if you have any awareness of Well, just the the picture of the um The the the statue guy on the um Yeah, yeah, well, I mean like the imagery of that particular because that's that's in the game Yeah, it's in the it's one of the first significant rooms you enter where the gameplay is like letting you loose So yeah, that's right. It's really awesome. Look in Rapture's awesome. Look in style. It's it's fucking amazing I want that hot echo like that that sort of retro futuristic. It's awesome It's very yeah, it's it's a very super very super humanist in its design very Just got this secular boldness to it I'm I'm still trying to figure out where the connection is between iron randans and snider because it comes up a lot Like people mention it Um, yeah, I don't see it in his movies. I like I legit don't I Well, I don't see much of anything in his movies because he's so incompetent like I said before the um, yeah The concentration camp sort of commentary I don't get it because it's all so bungled in nonsense like it's showing me that you have that doesn't do much of anything Yes, I managed to fail getting true jedi So when playing as yoda, that's unacceptable. You upset so much that i'm gonna leave now Not because i'm tired because you failed so hard. Oh my god. Oh, no Bye mortal. Yeah, I'll catch you around guys Bye. See you later. Bye. Bye Um, all right, so I think now I don't know if this is getting me any closer. I think that people think that his movies are like hardcore about Do what's best for you and then that's like good In all instances Yeah, I think uh, that's not objective this but all right There there was always this underpinning of The the selfish isn't one of the things that iron rand thinks that is like if everybody looks out for their best interest You'll just naturally reach a uh Like there's a good world. Isn't that like I think that's pretty safe to say she's she well one of the reasons She thinks us that way is because she escaped the ussr Um, you know the soviet rush is she got out and I guess the book we the living is very similar. It's about a woman who does escape a super collectivist totalitarian state Well, I guess that's what i'm asking is that's the idea right is that one of her positions is that if everybody looks out for themselves That will ultimately yield the best results as opposed to Doing things that might not be in your best interest because you're trying to pursue a great good Yeah, and if you think about The language in the superman movies being like you owe them nothing your decision to help them could cost you Yeah And the fact that superman doesn't actually really save people at all. He just likes bad guys That's like a child's reading of those books Well, but just that's again. This is personal game. Yeah, sure, but that's snider like Yeah, it sort of checks out here Superman's the perfect person to try and go with a person who doesn't want to get involved in other people's lives just I like the The protagonist you could say of the fountain head is an architect who's inspired by flank flank frank Lloyd Wright and I guess spoilers for the fountain head but he He has a piece of work that is going to be subverted for in a way that he doesn't like And so he he dynamites it. He blows it up He destroys one of his great creations because he can't stand the idea of his work being Used for a meaning and a reason that he doesn't approve a bio shock So There you go And that let's decide well Andrew Ryan would rather blow up a rapture than let frank take over it Yeah I like bio shock That's great And I in random Superman like peanut butter and jelly Yeah, seems cool Just leave Superman alone. Let him be superman. Let him save people. Yeah, they'll be neat do it um I mainly beat it to prove my brother wrong. Oh, I think that's about mysteries mode on like five star If you've got a brother telling you you can't do it then Well, you showed him. Yes, you did Um In a few minutes my cyborgs will have you and he will bring you to an electrified interrogation bench Where you'll learn more about pain than you ever wanted to know Showdown showdown is system shock Yes I need well I want to play them and I also have no idea if i'm going to be able to in terms of getting over the age of those games Yeah, they're the kind of games. They're the kind of games where um, if only I'd played them when I was younger Because I can Like as an adult then I can just go on the memory of liking it and knowing it instead of being like completely new and getting used to clunk You know how it be Yeah, I get that Um, I think they're very good Uh, I have nothing against southpaw and I know he gets a lot of hate But he has a bad habit of constantly poking the bees nest which makes things harder on himself Maybe just let some comments pass um, so I um Would you be saying that if he was making fun of something that you also hated? Well, I wonder if it would somewhat of advise the same for me with tlj, right? I I did a whole bunch of quote tweeting back in the day And the jenny nickelson stuff I did I was tweeting all fucking day trying to track stuff Again, I would agree that engaging with twitter generally is a bad idea It's it's it's something I've fortunately moved past a while ago Um It's it's not fun It's not a good platform to to try and engage but as for like the harshness of delivering your criticism I don't know like I don't know people just Do that a lot for a lot of things and people tend to only care when it's something that they actually like Yeah, like picture if um southpaw had recently gone after cruella He's just ripping into shreds or something and then a lot of people who like cruella Like in let's say high tops fanbase We're like shitting on him. I feel like we wouldn't be saying this We'd be like, oh my god southpaw's getting into a lot of fights again These people apparently love cruella think of all the films. We're gonna fucking cruella like why but okay Which by the way a lot of people do love cruella for some reason. Yeah a lot of people do It's like one of the most world-regarded of the remakes It Yeah, um But yeah, um, I would say if you're following southpaw on twitter expect lots and lots of Arguments I suppose Yep, um, I wouldn't recommend it myself Uh, because twitter is a nightmare And it will often only ever take more from you than it ever provides Yeah, it's not worth it Um Hey you ragu the flagu No, hello. What's your favorite divinity original sin 2 character and why is it bone daddy feign? Um, I never cared for feign really um that much. Um, I like Hmm, I like the red prince quite a bit. Um Let me see I don't dislike any of them but Yeah, I'd probably say the red prince honestly. Um I just like his attitude his you know, his cock sure better than you kind of aristocratic Sort of demeanor and attitude. Hmm. Um, I forget his name. Um The the human guy, um, I like him quite a bit. I wish I could help you but I haven't played enough of it Yeah, I just I haven't played it in a long time. I pretty I forget names They're all I mean, they're all fine. They're all pretty good Um So there there you go. All right Um I can't accept your nuclear take that the winter soldier is to if tlj is three Maybe if cap was assassinated to the degree that luke was but I don't see how he was Cap was assassinated Wait, wait. All right first things first. I don't know 100 if I still rate tlj at three rather than a two I can't be 100 clear on that. I guess we'd have to watch it again And collect like which I don't want to yeah, I don't really want it. Um, so first things first it could be a two as well However Was luke assassinated more than cap was in winter soldier. Well luke didn't kill any innocent people now did he? He tried to kill one innocent person. He did and that was terrible terrible. He never should have done that The big assassinations are luke abandoning his family luke trying to kill a family member that was unarmed innocent and then Yeah, and then not helping the universe caps is um taking time For vanity where he could be saving people's lives. Um Doing like a dick measuring contest with bat rock when he's supposed to be saving lives and then literally fucking killing people All because he's decided as an individual that a group cannot make decisions for itself He will make them for them He will make the decisions for the world Which is and you know what you can you can help me out friends But when you die, I won't cry for you. I won't even though I killed you I won't cry for you when I crushed to death by crashing one of the helicarriers into the triskellion Obviously, it's um the video is out there now So the veil is lifted and you're gonna be hearing this a lot as if I've goes forward But cap was fucked in that movie Yep, and he wasn't the only one winter soldier was meant to be like this really Really intelligent and scary super so like you know assassin and yet he sucks He just makes a lot of stupid decisions throughout the whole movie. Yeah, he's an idiot. He's a really bad assassin And nick fury is a really bad espionage, man Lots of really bad decisions that he makes too and plus the plot liking tlj's and tatters Winter soldier is a two it is Um and maybe tlj is a two as well. Oh, I can blow these things out. It's awful Um I can blow human beings up Uh, he's just sent a new one in so I suppose it makes sense to jump to it and then we'll jump back Um, I don't agree that the destruction is character assassination It's no end or holocaust assassination would be if cap explicitly said I don't care about civilian casualties No, it would not But you know how gravity works No, that's an absurd fucking like really you have to get him to say I don't care instead of just I don't care What he says I can't what he does With luke saying I don't care about killing my nephew Yeah, like how does luke I don't care to not care I don't care about what someone says I care about their actions What they do and what he did was crash three massive fucking helicarriers in the middle of downtown washington dc This is some one-on-one show like who you are is much more tied into what you do than what you say What you do than what you say kind of like how spider-man saves people Um, exactly and then he says that he won't help but he does Like actions speak louder than words. It's one of those one of those little things you learn when you're like two That's what I mean. I don't understand. It's like this is some old shit like we know this Your choices make you who you are Because the big thing is and if somebody was like well, he didn't kill that many people Oh god, let's not do that He probably did he probably did kill a lot of people but also it's not even if nobody died It's still assassination because people could have died and there was no reason to do that Would you make this same defense for superman when he's fighting za in the city? Oh, yeah, that's right. There you go Again, yeah, yeah superman never said I don't care about people Yeah, he never said he didn't care about people and that building he crashed it into probably didn't have anybody in it Yeah, there you go. Sure. Yeah Apparently there's only 5 000 that died and that's mainly zod's fault really Yeah, even though superman's the one who made it and and us like it There's a different character rags. Remember. Oh, wow. You're dumb Oh, it's comparison what it's literally a comparison if I compare him to anything else you could say well, that's not him Congratulations, you have rendered all comparisons in balance. Wait, you know, you know what they're right Superman typically is more altruistic than what I understand captain america to be so, you know, like it makes even more sense that it's worse because Cap did it while superman did it as a result Like of a fight, which is not good by the way, but it's still better It's still better than making the conscious choice We can take these down safely now. I fucked out. We're crashing them in the middle of washington dc Nobody deserves to have these if i'm fighting You know fucking rags or whatever I push him on to a baby and the baby dies like that was fucked up Especially if I knew the baby was there. However, if I tell rags to kill the baby and he Is like well, that's just that's just categorically worse I command the baby's death Like I know you guys like the movie because you saw it that one time and it gave you the worm fuzzies and you thought it was a cool action movie But grow up. Well, this is one of those things where we're gonna have to keep citing pre-established Ways of engagement for for media That's because we're never gonna get them on the actual arguments It's gonna have to be all right then tlj is good. All right, then matter of steel is good Like you got to be careful with this you don't want to be You don't want to be saying it's okay for cap to kill everybody as long as he doesn't say I didn't care that I killed everyone Before you say something like You know, we were just talking about action speak louder than words The one of the old another old one is think before you speak. Oh, that's a good one, too Yeah, it's quality. Um, what I will say is like really guys. We got it. We got to be better than this It's gonna take a little time for this to To be swallowed It's not easy to hear this that winter soldier is not only not the best mcu film But it's one of the worst and it does significant damage to one of the best characters in the mcu that is not easy to hear You guys have to be consistent. You have to be consistent. That's what we've been about this whole time since day One and I know a lot of you guys got into this because we were dunking on tlj But you've got to be consistent. I mean if you didn't know what you were signing up for I don't know what to tell you Things do we don't we don't special plead here on efap. It doesn't matter what genre it is It doesn't matter what tone it is. It doesn't matter if it was for kids. It doesn't matter if it's about space It doesn't matter if it was animated These are not things that we've ever said of valid arguments and they are always Eventually going to come for things you love things. We love too. I believe you're a big fan I went to soldier for a while, right? I used to like it a lot now. I don't um Yeah, it just happens and it's okay because it's like you don't your identity is not attached to these to these movies It's okay Like if there was something that you really enjoyed as a kid and then you find out it was really crappy That doesn't that doesn't harm you to learn that it shouldn't anyway. It's fine Because your identity is not these stories Which I guess can be hard to especially when a lot of these stories are so like important to people But it's not your identity. It's okay. There's there is good stuff out there There'll always be something that you can enjoy like white man, for instance Yeah, maybe you should be concerned if all the stuff you liked as a kid is still all the stuff you like as an adult That's a good point actually to a degree. Yeah. Yeah, that's for concern Um also sk is in chat and he's he's also talking about how bad winter soldier is He's put out a video if you don't want to watch the debate. He's got a video It's about an hour long And it has references to the actual debate too, which will hopefully if someone was to watch this video Be like, hmm, maybe the debate isn't cringe and then They could check it out. So for the detailed versions, um, you know, I've seen portions of his video. It's uh It's it's a really good intro If not a complete convincing argument for why winter soldiers got some big issues As has been mentioned in chat as well, it's like sure I'm trying to use this consistency standard might make it to where things you used to like you realize Weren't very good, but it could also highlight how the things that you like are actually a lot better than you realized It can strengthen the work because you notice what they're doing Um, it's yeah, it's it's a it's a double-edged thing because like a lot of people will just assume, right? It's like two things first like why would I want to like everything seems to be shit now That's like that's all the standard does like I don't like this. It's like, okay, so Most stuff is kind of shitty in any medium Like there's there's so much of it if you talk like 100 percent of all of a thing Like we're looking like a 60 percent of it being bad would be conservative Look, all right. You you are you are In they live in that fight where they're fighting about the glasses. You are oh my god. I can't believe I forgot this name Oh my god Yeah, Keith david If you if you are resisting the the consistency glasses You're Keith david. We're yelling at you to put the glasses on it. You You don't want to put them on and it's okay. Oh, so many Yoda deaths there I just wanted a grill Oh my god, there's so many of them they're all angry at me It's because i'm a Jedi it's fucked up Um, but yeah, most stuff is is um is is bad because it's really hard to do well in any creative I mean I think video games probably Because I tend to say this the video games tend to be a lot better in terms of the ratio good to bad content But I think it's because Yeah, I think it's just because the ways in which video games don't function is a lot more apparent than in a film Um, or like a book or really any other medium Like so the ratio of good video games. I mean we saw it with um Resident Evil 8 like games will also get a pass about their stories as long as the mechanics are fine Yeah, yeah, that that's true. Um It's films don't get that pass usually. Um, well it depends on who you're talking to I guess because Because like this this is all super interesting in many ways in terms of like I knew this would happen it would be like because if people if people remember we gave tlj 3 Then they're that that's like the emotional argument where they're like, how could it how could this thing that I like possibly Be anywhere near the realm of the thing that pissed me the fuck off Like, okay You remember we we set infinititisms and Wonder Woman 84 are worse than tlj But both of those films well both of those pieces of content. I way preferred a tlj He's even endgame to infinity to Oh You know that that's that's another one, but um, what endgame is it's who yeah, yeah, all of these things It's not like crisis on infinity. I don't even know how you begin. Exactly. That's another world. Yeah, yeah What I'm talking about with that is like nobody seemed to nobody seemed that is our one Nobody seemed to complain and it's probably because nobody was defending that shit, but yeah, that's worse than tlj I'm assuming everyone's on board with that Well, it should be it messes with fucking time and space not existing We are beyond space and time except there is space and time And if you're talking about continuity and cause and effect space and time, but they're pretty good actually You might say that yeah You have to have things doing And it's like a few so yeah We need things being done and doing please And I guess it's just you know, you could still if you still like winter soldier That's I mean, obviously this should go without saying whatever you like is what you like Yeah, but don't say it's good because it's not Oh, I mean they can say it. We'll just say the Justify it It's gonna be hard when you rack up the fury assassination scene and him being assassinated in general the zola scene um, the plot armor and with the like helicarriers Just the ridiculousness of the plan and the hydra's plan being absurd You know compared to far from home. Oh Oh, you had to throw it at didn't you think you're gonna piss him off even more. Yeah, well, you know It is worse than yeah, it is worse than far it is worse than far from home But yeah, it is uh, I don't even think it's close even though I still think that um far from home is not I wouldn't call it a good movie I do certainly like that movie, but like it's pretty fair to mention So the people understand a little bit better like me and freeing obviously needed to rewatch it for the conversation take note stuff and when we were like On super pay attention mode rather than just your standard sort of watching it mode It was like holy fuck like is anything good in this and all we could conclude was black widow. That's about it Yeah I oh and then you're like no far from home is a zero. I don't Was it a zero? How could you possibly say that? Come on. We didn't even give the infinititisms a zero is his yeah, I don't uh I don't know The guys who wrote civil war infinity war an endgame. I think it's the same team. No, that's bizarre Yeah, it is bizarre. It just fluctuates so wildly You went from like a two to a nine and then a five and then a two Like that's what happened I suppose it makes like it could make sense in terms of just how rushed and pressured they were with each project Uh, yeah and plus there would be other constraints, right? They probably had things that they were told that they needed to do um, yeah Yeah, I but but uh To to reiterate the point far from home is like not it's not it's not close In terms of big is bad. I certainly don't think so Yeah, it's not close. It has more redeeming qualities and I think The big Way to sort of I guess if you had to like do a analogy for these films far from home is a film whose plot is hanging together Very very loosely like the connective bits are rusty or they're tied together with like strings instead of chains um The way that things connect is very flimsy and like it could you know break down Whereas like winter soldier isn't hanging together the chains are broken. They're snapped Like it's it just it doesn't function. It is dysfunctional as a film Whereas like far from home functions, but barely which is still pretty bad Um, but then it also has the aspects of which were good, which is that the characters are sound and it has and it's on theme So like well building plot. Oh, but uh character theme cool. Whereas with like with captain america It's all fucked Plot characters well building And if you uh, like baffled right now, there is a seven hour discussion that goes over all of this. Yep Right on the moola channel. Oh, you are so wrong guys. Okay. Uh, there's a whole debate. You can watch that I'm sure they think the whole day. We talk about it We talked about the glasses and and we so I don't know why people keep bringing them up Like there's there's been a lot of that in the comment section. There's arguments being made But we we agree. We talked about it. It was it was discussed thoroughly Yeah, but do you believe that edith brings it all the way down to a one or two? That's the You need to explain For some reason they think that edith is a bigger issue than everything in the winter soldier Like guys, what I don't do is it's bad like pretty much everywhere Almost everything in that moves don't again. It's like let's talk about edith. I guess it's like oh edith Is that a problem? Yeah, is it as big as of a problem as like the entire zola scene? Think about it. Think about everything that happens in that movie Like how they got there when they got there what zola did when they got blown up the fact that they managed to get away We talked about this but they were they were at least five stories underground And they were somehow on the surface and hydra got there and then they escaped It's all broken and remember if it played out as it should which is either they're dead or they get captured The film ends and millions of people die Whereas with a lot of the things with spider-man if he dies it's like well People would die in london, but then it's like, you know, and then mysterio was a hero stakes Are very different in terms of the consequences And people are like all the drones. It's like, ah, yes the absurd ridiculous drones Not at all like the helicarrier that could apparently shoot bullets that could curve around the earth to hit people in new york Not like the the perfect artificial intelligence. I don't care about winter soldier. This is what aboutism the debate was I don't care about which one versus the other the debate was against these two Yeah, it's the carousel Yeah, that that is the conversation right now. I don't know what how is that what aboutism? You're correct. Oh, wow. Chad is pretty mad about winter soldier being Oh, we knew this would happen like The comment section on the debate is a graveyard for discussion. Don't go there It's fucking it's horrific. Um, we were watching We were watching 101 Dalmatians 1961 We were having a grand old time and when we were setting up for the 1995 version We we took a gander at the comment section. It's incredible. How many people wrote about the whole debate an hour after it released It was like, this is amazing stuff. You guys have some insight that I was in a way of Yeah, and everybody's talking about the far from home stuff without talking about the winter soldier stuff Which was the whole point that fringy was trying to make Harrison I think that's the reason why I said it in the first place was because I rewatched the mcu and I was like, oh Winter soldier isn't as good as I remember it. Uh-oh, and then it's like, well, what better way to have that point home Then to say that it's worse than the movie that everybody thinks is awful Yeah, and it's it's it's a really great highlight of like cognitive dissonance. It's like no This is this but this is also this but worse, but it's okay. No Shut up far from home is really bad. It's like, okay Interesting the ultimate hours comparing the two different movies. So that's what a debate about Yeah, I don't what are you? What are you saying? What are you trying to say? That was the idea. Yeah That is what a debate about movies. Yes. I remember seeing people comment. Like I don't care. It's like, this is hilarious I don't care what people didn't care about tlj Yeah, or just moreover if you didn't care, why would you care because you commented that you don't care you cared And that's fine. It's it's okay to care about things In fact, it's a good thing Yeah, uh I mean, we we we need to have like what we need to do is we need to have our stone tablets that we bring down from the Mountain for e-facts Right with our commandments on it Like Thou shalt accept beloved media is flawed. Thou shalt separate your emotions from objectivity Thou shalt not assume Thou shalt not have I don't know uh sacred cows, you know, Thou shalt not place anything about criticism Thou shalt not rely on the one fucking time you viewed it as a 12 year old 20 years ago Far from home killed Far from home killed Tony's character. So even if you agree with that winter soldier killed three characters. Yeah So even even if you did that it would still come out lower And the big issue is you can it you could argue that Tony's thing is just a really big Contrivance whereas a lot of stuff cap does is a hole Like it's just outright contradicts who he is Yeah, I think it does and I think civil war does a lot to repair winter soldier I yes, it does civil war is still great plot of far from home is more broken than the core plot of winter soldier No, it's not even close. No, it's not Here we go name something for that person name something that functions plot wise in winter soldier. I dare you Yes, I yes, kodi. Yes, please absolutely in chat name something that functions in winter soldier plot wise specifically Now is now is your chance kodi You can do it name something from the winter soldier plot wise that works I'm curious if it'll be hyper specific so that it can't be criticized Like a gun is shot and bullets come out. There you go. How you got it. Yeah, even that I have criticism for so We'll be all right. I think it's an edith versus the hydra splinters. I don't know if that's What his answer is A lot of the things people are citing are like the first scene in the movie with the run But here's the funny part cap meets falcon the day before the plot starts Yeah, so man, you don't want to be citing that for it for a sense of it making sense also What the fuck I just flew up in the area 20 million people Oh, wow Look at you go. I don't want to I don't want to die. I'm trying to get true jedi Wow It's kind of funny that the true jedi aren't really allowed to have much in the way of material possessions And the way that you get to that rank in this game is to gather as much money as you possibly Nick if you're using his messed up eye as a key, so that doesn't make sense. No, that doesn't make sense at all We went over this. God damn it. I'm assuming they might offer to go over this. Okay, so guys If you need alpha level access that's going to be a short fucking list All right, and if furies is actually registered what you'll get on the system Is something like the actual nicolas j fury his eye his records and why he gets access they scrub that Now if you look at that system you'll be like, hmm, that's weird One of the many say there's 20 access people for alphas probably not even that many There's one here that doesn't have any information on it. It's like it's just blank and it's What is the signature that it's recorded? It's like it's an it's like a goopy eye That's that's really strange and that's if we're lucky And if how could he have registered it under like nothing he has to register under something and then they can check it It doesn't make any fucking sense It's it's just a cool thing black The scene where black and cap, uh, where black and cap The scene where cap and black Widow through the fake guy in the building theory not black So the reason why that scene is pretty floopy as well is that how his guards not walked off They couldn't have done that and also how did they get there? And also remember why falcons wings they had to break into a facility and apparently that was no problem And remember that they committed to this plan because of everything that happened with zola With zola so because at this point the film's already broken a few times. That's that's the big part The film The only way you're gonna be able to do something on the floor and we're just yeah to get to the next part Yeah, further breaking it The only way you're gonna get to something that functions is when you you zoom into the timeline super close and you're like This little thing here when cap steps forward from his prior step backward It's like that makes sense. You're like, you know what you nailed it that that is walking Someone said so a hidden sub routine is now something that can't exist according to efab Nick fury was locked out of looking into the usb by pierce Pierce's full control over what fury can do security wise But I guess he didn't but I guess he didn't But if he had then that the movies are I don't think they appreciate this isn't fury hacking in right Which would have made more sense as far as I'm concerned. This was fury using an a registered profile What the fuck how is that possible? It identifies him as fury. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Any technician just checking the profiles would be like There's a mystery profile here. This shouldn't be on here And they took the time to scrub fury from it, but they didn't check to see what accounts are even on there in the first place That's really fucking stupid then Really dumb It was all set up with the cool line of you need to keep both eyes open That doesn't that doesn't set it up. That's not a setup. I thought it was a meme that you were doing there I hope it was a meme because This is the thing. That's why people like that seed because it's got a cool factor Yeah, that's why people like the whole movie because it has cool factor. That's it If I was to rate cool factor for the mcu that one does score real high Yeah, I I propose a new term to As the as the inverse of cool factor. I I nominate that we call it the drool factor Oh Well, so that's what I was actually going to counter myself on it's like, uh, I went to talk just a fucking cool in that movie and it's like, well, when you actually watch what he does Is he still cool? Oh, no, not as dumb as an ai not being able to recognize a disgruntled former employee Ah, yes, so Should have been programmed But we talked about this in the debate. Yeah, I know I thought we just named like 17 things that don't work about it as well. Not just one. Yeah But um, I mean if you guys want to just jump to the finish line and say they're both terrible I'm much more okay with that than I am with trying to remain in this position that winter soldier is great Just if we can get rid of that, um Yeah, I guess I'm I'm pretty cool with that. I guess I I'm much more okay. Like if I can fucking get people to move on winter soldier. We can do the rest another time because Holy shit Sure, they're both terrible. I guess that's the problem is I kind of don't like that You can move on to the next bit another time for me We can just get maybe steps are necessary with some people I guess but they're not both terrible one of them is better than the other not good, but better I don't think I'd call far from home terrible. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't call it No, I don't I don't think I would reserve terrible for movies that are Terrible Broke into the core. Yeah I'm pretty sure most people don't think winter soldier is even good. No, most people think it's it's like one of the best movies in the mc That is common perspective very positively Yeah That's why I was like frustrated I'm just like I just kept getting told it's the best one. It's like I just don't get it I don't really mind what you pick for your favorite mcu movie. Um, but I would prefer it if you don't pick the But the ones that are like just perforated to hell and back Winter soldier has more holes than thy mother's Swiss cheese It was cool action mohler. You know what? I still like the knife fight that one tiny portion of of the whole battle The unfortunate thing is he pulls a gun out randomly at the end of it. So it kind of like fucks with it It's like, uh, okay Stop fucking with it. I guess that seems I guess we're progressing with the plot because he just pulled out a gun randomly Um, how much convenience can be allowed in a story without it breaking everything? So you just uh split into like major sections, right? It's something to consider that I find really interesting is If a nonsense thing is established, that's absolutely crazy, but Like in terms of its creation say for example You have a really shitty mcu movie that has a guy made Androids out of putting two wires together and it just he has an android and you're like what? It's like yep I did it. I put this wire and this wire together and there's no more explanation other than that The sequel to that movie should still have that android Like just because it was shittily made you can now make something of it and try and improve it and stuff Um, and so that applies to individual scenes as well Like if it may for example, I'm obi-wan on yoda right now If how we got here makes no fucking sense at all like it's entirely just stupid If this scene is great like in isolation That's still like I would say a thumbs up for this portion of the movie and that's kind of how you can break it down Um, which is kind of what me and fringy were trying to do with winter soldier We go through scene by scene by scene by scene until you finally look back and you go wait a minute Which one's the good scene? Yeah, it's like yeah Whereas at least in far from harm. There are good scenes the whole bunch Yep And yeah, you know, it's uh, we'll we'll have to see what happens next with uh with everything to see how it all fits in But that's probably how I would go at the other The flash is really a criminal for breaking so many laws of physics Anyway, worst reckons of media, you know So, uh, they've said what yeah, what are the worst reckons and their suggestions were eternals and captain marvel? Um, well with channels. We don't know yet. I'm sure it's terrible. Yeah um Ah Probably something from terminator, you know, like dark fade or genesis Yeah, those two I always struggle on which one I think is weird Genesis just wiping out the timelines like you're a relic from timeline Somehow palpitate returned That's a good one Dude, this is what I would love to see jj burbs like do it at like a writing school He was like, so there's a thing called Contribence you don't really have to take that word seriously It just means something happened that didn't seem very likely, but you know, it's really like it gets you your payoffs Really gotta use them sound like People don't really care about how you get somewhere. They care what it is Just all that kind of rhetoric would be wonderful to listen to. Oh, man. How am I supposed to get up there? Yoda? Do you have super jumps? Pretty hope so Don't watch any more mcu. Well I'm I'm still into some stuff in the mcu. You know I still want still want things to be happening to the guys. Oh I want to know what they're doing with Thor. I haven't lost hope for him entirely, you know and guardians. We got them I really I get I just need jar jar on every level at this point In the mcu I think people would be on board again story Binks EFAP mini high school musical the musical the series when if no then efap gaming slash super chats halo mcc custom games with chat when My god Well, I don't think we'll do high school musical, but we are intending to do But moller, we're all on this together at some point. We are all in this together That was a legendary song that brought the country together. So don't you don't you make fun of it? National holiday now I don't know why I can fiddle with these random pieces of lego. That's It's fine. I'm not I'm not saying nothing. I like lego Uh, my friend sk who was in the far from home versus Uh winter soldier debate released his video on why the winter soldier doesn't hold up. Please check it out. It's a great video Um, I like I said, I've seen portions of it. They were pretty good. So if you guys want a quick rundown sk comics on youtube And he will kick winter soldier in the balls for you But perhaps some are not looking for that experience in which case that is totally fine But it'll at least let you know about the arguments Oh, man. I don't have one of them Um I didn't uh, I didn't get why luke hid his lightsaber in r2d to an episode six java would thoroughly search anything that comes anywhere near his house There's a lot of stuff that you're thinking about It's it's kind of it's got some issues just a few Uh, love the father praise moorla really made me appreciate that film even more also high rags, mootle and fringy Oh Hey, yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Uh It was I was thoroughly impressed by that film. So I was like, you know what? Make an appraise Returning the Jedi isn't good. I I don't I don't think that's a hot take, right? I think that's most people like a piece with that. I think I love that movie. Oh, yeah, I love it too. Well, at least yeah, I like that movie Should be another classic example of being like, wait, how do you love it if you think it's bad? It's like my child. There is a difference. We have much to say Yes Don't onions hurt dog goes rags Is that true? They hurt me. They hurt this one. The dog's not typically like onions. Are they bad for them? I don't know I'm not I'm not entirely sure. What is the dogs hate onions? Well, they can sense evil so That's true. Um apparently They are toxic and potentially deadly to dogs. Damn Well, that explains everything Oh, why would you make them bounce all over the place game? It's not even being a true Jedi Also, this is like the fifth part. I'm doing yoda and an obi in Jedi temple in place. So I guess the last one's just going to be Anakin versus obi one Oh, is there not two more? There's six per episode Ah, yeah, the next one will be Most of our oh my god, I'm having to fight the training bots Going full circle. We're gonna go go to mr far to get me green cube. We're gonna go to mr far morty my green goo No, his his his cube Not in this version fringy. We need your goo You need your green goo. Oh no, mr far. Isn't that like eight hours away? Hey, obi check it out. I did some modifications to me portal gun. Now. It's also a light saber Make some changes to my blaster now. It's a real blaster. Yeah Why are you putting it in my hand, Anakin obi shut the fuck up? I'm so tired of you What did you just whinge and complain? I don't think you'd be allowed to swear words in his adaptation Oh I'm I'm so happy that smiling friends is going to be a thing. That's uh, that's really cool Michael qsac is like a really that's a he's a great australian export like um, it's easy as good as john qsac Uh, what what michael qsac is better. Yeah, like michael qsac is really good. Uh, he's just a really funny guy I'm sure john is offended now It's um, I think he's making more than one show though I think he's got a few shows happening right now. So that's oh my god. Look they were eating pizza and drinking dress Oh god, they just killed a bunch of people. I killed more than they love to break I'm sorry. It had to be done They did not know where to put the studs in this episode like well level they just sort of they just Put them everywhere. Yeah, they kind of just show it up. It's like, all right Just gotta get that true Jedi You know that that was the the reason they would make the level be like, what do we put up? I was like, I don't fucking know. Well, you gotta do it You ought to find somewhere to put them somewhere All the people will be pissed if they can't get the true jedi I wonder if naysayers would reconsider death of the author when hearing a well Uh written will from a wealthy relative, especially if it's in their favor I don't think wills are the sabers storytelling but That would be funny though It's a funny thought Well, this is what he truly intended I guess Friggy is zola. What are your favorite robots? Uh, oh boy uh Pyrax Hey, I'm on stage four of grief. My days are getting unnervingly longer And my nights are getting darker in the absence of a new upload from you Oh, well, I the stuff will be out when it's out. I don't want to Make you hopeful for something and then have you just wait even further Yeah, don't worry. It'll rags will reset your stages of grief as soon as the video comes out Yeah, it'll be great Moving things I wish if I move a thing it would not be able to be moved anymore so I can get my fucking body Weird because you can't like individually target things with the force you sort of have to walk up to them This lego game isn't mechanically varied there. I said it Get the gloss. You know what I'm using or be There we go Uh, yes, scared of you three saddler calls him it ah Scared saddler calls what it. Oh, yeah, you okay. Okay That was cool. I think that was you like Repeating the message in your head and you were reacting to it in your head Because you got the first half and then the second half What you're saying? um, yeah, that boss is it's not Because I I actually recently played that section a lot because what I'm kind of doing in my current quote-unquote current playthrough for um Professional is to really try and test a lot of different strategies and things and see how I can Not maybe may not break the game But learn how enemy attacks work and see how I can do things as efficiently as possible And I wasn't really digging the u3 fight that much the first section in the cages is Uh, I don't really care for it that much. Um And I and I would u3 is one of those fights that I would definitely change a pretty decent amounts. Um In uh in a remake Well, there you go Uh, what I mean by getting stuck in re4 is playing really bad using too much ammo and health and then getting to a hard boss without enough equipment to kill it Yeah, it takes it does take some practice, but you can get super you can get super um What is it like like efficient with your ammunition? usage and just kind of learning the game and learning enemies and It's worth playing over and over again to see how good you can get the game is very very rewarding Uh In terms of like giving you a lot of materials and letting you keep a lot of what it gives you if you play really well There's not that many ammo sinks in the game actually at all In fact, it's definitely not like some Resident evil movies or reasonable games now. Sorry where there is a huge There there's just you just you just get to enemies that are ammo checks It's pretty much all they are. It's just ammo checks and there aren't many of those at all in um Now resident evil 4 honestly feels like a symptom of modern gaming where they're like we don't want players ever feeling like this stuck Yeah They gotta have a handout at any any point Even if they fire every fucking thing they have before the boss starts like Gotta keep it doing also. I'm in the temple. How fucking cool is this like the movie? You guys remember revenge of the sith That was a movie it was fun. Yeah Hey rags Hey Uh been playing through re4 for the first time and the more I play the more i'm disappointed with resident evil 8 Just got past the del lago fight and i'm having a blast so far I'm glad you have that opinion after the del lago fight, which is generally considered the worst in the game Um, yeah Yeah, i'm really yeah, I really don't like that fight at all That definitely one of my Things I'd change i've maybe one time if I stream the game I'll just talk about all my ideas for how to change it and remake it Well, you know now you gotta really put the pressure rags to stream it and just stream in general I'm sorry to say what Stream you should stream A resident evil 3 remake Oh, you should just stream in general Yeah, yeah, I I want yeah, I am yeah, I am gonna stream in general I do especially with you doing it more and It's just it just seems like it's just more and more becoming something that I kind of want to do I definitely didn't find much of an appeal to it in the past But I think as time goes on I'm just more keen on the idea Well, I mean you might be like me where um, you don't necessarily watch a lot of streams But that you can find a lot of value in doing it yourself. Yeah, I don't watch really I don't I don't watch anyone streaming games really. Um But I don't the idea is becoming more and more appealing as time goes on for me to do that And I think a lot of people would enjoy it and I'd probably enjoy it too. So yeah Yes Not my mystical actable. I'm not risking losing studs to jump for one of that We'll get it on the free play mode. Okay Gosh These amateurs I think they know star wars lego Disgusting Uh question for rags played through the new guild wars episode and remembered that rags said he didn't like the story of guild wars Just wanted to ask why The story of guild wars There are very few characters that are even approaching what I'd call interesting Or well written the story of guild wars can be summed up Pretty damn accurately into the phrase and then magical bullshit happens I'm very disappointed with a lot of the decisions. They continuously make Um, particularly with how ice fruit saga just wrapped up how insanely fucking disappointing that was Like nobody like that and I think the reason is because they're working on the end of dragon's expansion But uh oof what what a what a horrific uh end to that Which is a shame because there was some really good stuff. Um, I think my The most enjoyment I ever got out of this game's story was the prologue for ice fruit saga the uh uh The bengars rally and grothmar valley and all that stuff It felt like for the first time in that game I was like, oh, they're doing something interesting that I actually sort of care about that is Like actually sort of character related in a way that isn't stupid But yeah, it's I I feel like The the story is just we have no idea what the stakes ever really are It is very much just a super insane magical world where there doesn't seem to be any rules to anything Stuff can just be invented on this spot when the plot needs it to happen And they need to focus on smaller things instead of oh, no, it's the end of the world again It just loses its it loses its potency when you know, it's the fifth time we have to Go through this again I I wish they'd focus on more regional based stories And put more work into Smaller scale stuff and work on some details instead of trying to have these big grandiose Things that just don't pan out and don't really seem to have much of a scale or a sense of stakes to them um I just the game just I don't think the game has good writers at all Game plays great. I love so much about this game, but I'm playing it right now What game story? Guild Wars 2 Ah, right But holy fuck it don't buy it for the story. Some people like the story, but some people are mental But I think that there's there's I would highly recommend this game if someone's looking for an mmo to get into But fuck me the story is Not good And you like it you like it, but I just do not think it's good at all They're they're tiny things here and there that I liked but they're they're the deets generally not the things at all No writing then Oh, they're on timer's game. Why'd you got to do this and make them spill out studs? It's so mean um Hey, Mola, will you watch the Game of Thrones prequel? I don't No, maybe I don't want to watch it with somebody I don't know who's left The kids What is it? Uh Who's writing that? I haven't looked into the specifics. I'm sure it's bad news It's always bad news um Shirley and hill house is a good example of actions Reflecting who she is more than what she says 100 percent it's a Big deal because I think it really brings a character home when she's such a like moral paragon But then not only do you see her failing her own sort of standard? It kind of explains why she's so obsessed with maintaining the standard It's good shit hill house has lots of good character stuff Yep Uh, you misunderstood I was making a distinction between implied deaths and explicit not caring. That's why I said no end or holocaust Implied deaths and explicit they're explicit in winter soldier Also, I don't see how you could get away from them. This is like the it's like the superman saying a metropolis like It it is not reasonable I You can't tell me that thousands and thousands and thousands of people didn't perish horribly. It's also not relevant um our criticism is on caps acknowledgement of it and Factoring it into his plans. It wouldn't matter if a zero people died. It's like boogie with firing that gun Um, I don't care if someone actually died, but also someone definitely actually died Not only is you confirmed that in civil war, but fucking there's plenty of people in the triskelion that were Targeted by hydra meaning that they would have they were against hydra And he just fucking landed a helicarrier in it or scraped past it. So Um, yeah, it was a big doodoo And as people have pointed out Um Avengers actually holds the answer for them on how to do this if cap was desperate to do it this way, which is take control Throw them into the ocean Might you know fuck up a bit of sea life But I suppose that's better than crashing into civilian populations That's a price that i'm willing to pay It is the lord for fuck one. Some of you may die It's sacrifice I'm willing to make I think that's what pisses me off about captain america went to soldier as well Is the hill is getting a little upset at the idea that steve is making his sacrifice. It's like, um I'm out all the other people who we didn't even get to choose and that's what cap is all about Rust into it the people in the triskelion who got crushed to death The triskelion had its chance Like sam who nearly died Two two out of three fall into the water seems reasonable they expected and hoped that all three would you insane They simply blow them up. They don't guide them anywhere They don't guide them and also bullets can miss and hit people They the idea that they that's their their perspective on precaution It's like I still have an issue, but that's not even in the film. So whatever. No, it's not in the film And We know that there were innocent people in the triskelion because we see that the helicars are targeted people inside of it Well, I just said all of that No, I know I know you said that but So the triskelion they shoot through the other ships to No, I don't know if they're that stupid. They might be um But yeah, the idea is that if they're targeting people in the triskelion that means that people that hydra consider as enemies and would stand against them and so These are people the cap should not want to fucking murder But if people got on the helicarriers, were there any people in the helicarriers they wanted to kill? Well, they have a throwaway line of we should assume that everybody on the helicarriers is hydro It's really easy morally when you do that Yeah, we should assume that as like oh okay Okay, I still want to know what caps opinion on nukes is A grisly murder that just uh appeared on um in cuts Yeah, I know right It's kind of lame. We didn't get to kill all the children in this game as anakin. I don't know what's that about They could be salvaged control destruction. It seems more reasonable. The most reasonable is bring them down Yeah Um, also we already take issue with the fucking destroying them thing that's out of character a cap Cap doesn't look at people with power and take it from them because he thinks they shouldn't have it He's not fucking mordo from dr. Strange. Well, of course he That's what we're gonna see more of in the next one too Well as the link goes he tricks wander into opening up the multiverse or something for his evil plan Oh wait So the way they do this because they need a co-op mission is that anakin and I are running from the lava together We're like, oh, let's get out of here lads Oh, there's a mini kid over there. Yeah, I want it. Yeah, I just wasted studs for that. That was probably a bad idea Um, why are they doing it like this? They had to craft if I remember correctly because I'm having I'm having a memory here If you play this in co-op the boss battle is literally you against your friend But if obi won like the player playing as obi won loses, I think that the mission fails. I can't remember Oh Why didn't they just have had maybe the co-op person? um I don't know. Could they do r2d2? Maybe yeah, well would r2d2 Fight against well, I guess you would fight against anakin, you know If he knew what he was up to Man, that would that would really make a r2 anakin think right you'd be like, oh my god, you're standing against me That would be you could still have you could still have the horrific burning death for anakin if r2 did it because he could He does that thing with the super battle droids where he oils the floor and they slip and lights it on fire with his thrusters And so you can have anakin screaming in horrific pain as he's burned alive by r2's oil spilled flame weaponry Imagine it was all planned to begin with If it were all planned to begin with The ot and the prequels and and so Vader seeing r2 would mean a huge amount in the ot and you could have Like in a new hope there's just this this moment where they catch each other in some hallway for whatever reason And they like there's just this look in which we as viewers just like why? And then you can get all the context once the other films come out it'd be pretty interesting I think Maybe it wouldn't work because duff it would be like you fucking. What are you doing here? And then grabs him and it's like, oh no So maybe sees him as they're leaving Because you know anakin liked r2 quite a bit. Yeah, we made it. I think anakin just yeah, he attacks me Dude, he just pushed me over right away What are you doing anakin? Oh, no, they're playing music. Stop it Funny if during the final fight between anakin and obi one everyone just says you'll always be that little boy on tatooine That'll be funny to you. That's very emotional rags This is a very epic final level for this game, you know It's like I'm in bowser's castle And see they're trying to argue that friendship was the true friend in the end Because we're all we're working together Oh now we're not working together They're playing the bloody music again Uh fringy is oh wait, I read that debates are gay. That's true I want to make sure we all understand that We don't make the rules A debate of bly versus hillhouse would be neat. I feel like hill is superior as a scary show Dude, what's gonna happen in that debate? I thought it was scary. Well, I didn't oh well then I suppose you could at least talk about what scared you, but I don't see it going for much longer than that Ah, oh my god If you get burned in the lava, you just fly away I'm not entirely clear where I'm supposed to be going That's just life mate Do you guys know this particular annoyance in video games where your character has a double jump but it can The time in which you can activate the second jump is a little like you have a nice little window And then you you try and get the most out of it and then you're too late and you just fall in because you haven't got the second jump You're like Yeah, like that Like that Oh, I think this is the boss battle place. Whoo. I'm turning you into a creepy skele man. Get ready If I plug in a second controller, I can just make him kill himself This is pretty crazy set pace for a PlayStation 2 game. Oh, no And now Oh, oh, no, Anakin's cape isn't but oh, oh, they didn't show it. They just said episode three complete Man, he is fucking you up Apparently I won so yeah, I don't say episode four unlocked. Oh, oh Oh god Look at him Mola lost and still won. Yeah, they didn't even have an alternative ending where they had a fail start. I just won Maybe maybe that's your maybe that's obi one's turn is the more pain he gets the more powerful he gets Wait, you lost but you won. It's like yes, I did Yes, I did Witness the power of the light side of the fall Yeah, even when we lose we win. It's like, well, that's a pretty big power Oh my god, the kids are crying One of them has lay ahead See this is why I like the lego games They could do so many lego related jokes is fun Because I saw No, they to stop it They had knocked over the camera No, I want more lego cutscenes Later as a dick that robot like saved his life. Yeah All these robot limbs and everything is like, fuck you robot. He was in a bad mood We did it I don't I don't remember this they have all of a new hope in this game or is it just one episode or something No, I don't think they because they have the original trilogy one, which is the one that I played It's just the beginning. I think it's just the tanto for that would make sense Yeah, because I was gonna say I don't know how much they had had planned at this point when because they called this Lego star was the video game They didn't call it lego star was the prequel trilogy, you know part one. Yeah Well, yeah, so I look like this was like a bonus level almost I think I think you're right It's just the tanto for I think yeah When I first played this and we were I was going through it with my brother years and years ago And we were young and we got is the episode four unlocked. We're like, oh my god We've got three entirely new star wars episodes to go through the original stuff. Oh my god. It's so amazing and they're like This is nuts lego star wars this game came out before revenge of the sith Um, I think though that wasn't too unusual right because they were close by a lot of the game releases I could have sworn that happened similarly with One of the Is uh leaks come from what info they pass to the toy manufacturers. Yeah I know that like releasing the game two months before the movie comes out. You just play the game and you know what happens I also love that. I'm just I got stormtrooper buddy with me I don't need you We're playing the bad guys now The original trilogy was really fun. That was uh, well, I'm gonna be playing that after this and what's cool Oh another comes to replace it dude all the smiling rebels. Look at them as they die We got this guys. Oh my god, you pushed them with me fella. Oh my god. Yeah a tour of the limb from limb Lego city on the cover that was like an open world lego game where you played as a cop that came out on Wii U Apparently was like really good. Like it was legitimately a great game um, oh Smaller someone has recommended in chat earlier that you should play the lego lego the hobbit They said it was actually quite good. Is it on doll fan I don't know. I don't know because I was gonna play the original trilogy first and then when I was like looking around in the game It says like would you like to um carry on your save from The prequel one. I was like, oh shit. I didn't even know they did that. That's cool And so I don't know what you unlock. Maybe just some characters, but I'm gonna do that one after this one. We're gonna 100% this one or at least come close Yeah, I want jar jar on the original trilogy, don't you Now I kind of want to play that game lego city on the cover now. I'm seeing all this lego stuff Legos see what they See what kind of game they make when they're doing their own original little thing Well, I'll tell you what like they're releasing um The skywalker saga that's to be it's been delayed for ages now I don't know what's happening with it, but if you look at the trailer Looks kind of fun And like I was like this will be great actually for if our movies if I'm gaming because You know, we can all play through it if it's full player if it's two, you know We'll figure someone out and um and we can just comment on like all the adaptationy stuff and see what they did with like rey and fin in the Is that they like full-on cutscene stuff, but the game isn't online Fucking only split screen local Just like are we not in 2021? What the hell's going on Someone's saying we should play lord of the rings the lego lord of the rings together. It's on steam Yeah, but does it have online? I'm checking right now Lego the lord of the rings Let me see it is This came out. Oh, well that came out. It came out in 2012 Not that that's an excuse, but because obviously I mean this I'm assuming no lego game has ever had online Which sucks, but let me check here The last one that came out was it looks like lego dc super villains Oh forza horizon for lego speed champions, I think they have lego everything now Star Wars Lego marvels avengers Man, it is. Yeah, it's all single player two. Fuck I don't know why it's like the the team doesn't know how or something I don't get it. I legit don't get it. I've seen people say like you can do remote play, but like remote play is ass That's shit. Like it's worse than playing the game I would rather yeah better to do something else But we better have like one person to play and the other person just comment, you know because like It's going to be cancer with all the times it can fuck up and well everything else Lego was meant to be played with people as well as solo. How could you It's so weird at all because the game is like from the get go lego games will like play with a friend They're very much encourage it, but then they don't do online I'll get it. I just don't understand Nobody does Uh, what do you think ruined cap more the winter soldier or end game? Say that one more time. Sorry. What do you think ruined cap more the winter soldier or end game? It's tough killing civilians and abandoning your friends. It's like That is tough. I guess letting 9-11 happen Yeah, well, yeah, there's all that too. Yeah Just letting all the bad things happen I guess um And refusing not and refusing more Well and plus remember that he doesn't even want to put up a fight against steve not reversing time But instead just letting all the people who died from the snap stay dead Like the people who died after the snap happened Yeah, because he wants to keep his family Yeah, like he's he's he's done horrible things in both But I I guess end game would be worse, right? When you really And horrible things he could have done more good. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing I like this. It's not really kind of a puzzle. I like it It's neat to do in the last level Appreciate this I keep seeing a bunch of like spider-man news I'm written like apparently amazon's gonna be making a bunch of shows based on spider-man characters that sony owns Hmm. I wonder how that's gonna fit into the mcu because it seems like Sony wants their stuff to be part of the mcu because it's more money But like I wonder if I wonder if disney are really unhappy with the fact that they don't own spider-man. It's like this big IP that's just not accessible to them All about that IP these days Uh, wait, did we decide then is end game was the one that Talks about them all. Yeah Yeah Is some money buy yourself some chicken soup. I know what you're referencing I Have a lot of chicken soup that I haven't eaten for back when this cove thing started and They were like, uh, it's like, oh my gosh. We don't know how bad it's gonna get and people started panic buying So before that started I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get a couple I'm gonna get a bit extra soup a cup some extra non perishables just in case Yeah, makes sense for some weird nonsense that goes on. I still have it. So Maybe you can, you know, make a chicken soup pyramid Oh Um, yeah, I can I could do that. I have other soups, but yeah, I prefer the rags. You made a punny didn't even notice Chicky schnoodle What I can Hmm Did I do oh, I guess that's it. Yeah, I didn't get to collect everything in time. I needed to play as a fast character Yeah, I did post that tweet. It's like a three second video. You should watch it Hmm I just posted in the chat that tweet Yeah, that's funny I mean, it just it just makes it makes sense. I think It's a better backstory Yeah, Vader is slow. It's true Uh donate money. I will long man deserves money. He does also high rags Hey, some Yoda language right there You know what this should be able to do is you can reform it into another word And uh, it gets you some kind of special bonus because Everyone knew lego and that's obvious What's a cool anagram of lego um lego, um Oh leg But all leg that sounds like a russian name. What about go well? Like I've scored a go well I've scored the go well I mean you have um No Low loge Loge Loge loge There's oh wait, there is no true Jedi in this one. I guess. Okay. I guess veda can't be a true Jedi There you go, certainly not a new hope I'll go of course God so much money in this mission Um Oh Buggy punches somebody I don't know man. I don't even remember that movie Was that the one with the hydro takeover attempt with the many airship things it was that was the one Now, why doesn't you understand that efebs criticisms are unbiased? That's the whole point. Well In fairness to those people they would accuse us of being biased. That's what they believe the problem is The money's going through walls um Thing is if anything I was biased toward winter soldier when I first saw it because I was like whoo But then I was like oh man. This was a little stinky And then uh, I only ever heard praise. I was like this is getting a little weird So really am I actually unable to do this as one person? Stormtrooper man help stormtrooper use your incredible aim to help me All right I guess we can't really see three p.o. I who is the fastest character in lego like I don't know. Georgia banks Perhaps it is ja ja Oh, you know what? Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm actually missing some of them as I go around. It could be it You're all playing as a stormtrooper Uh, what's wait, why does that one get undone so fast? I see you Speaking of see you I have to paint Very well Uh If you could put any marvel comics character who isn't already in the mcu into the mcu through move your show Who would it be? It's dead elf. He was it depends of dead evil counts If he doesn't count then him, but if he does count, um Try the trooper. Yeah Oh, he feels slower Maybe there's a puzzle. Yeah Oh Is it supposed to be done in a particular order? It seems like it's timed Maybe the top left last. Hmm That probably was it You know, let's try vader. I think he's slightly faster Move out to the vacloan Let her reset. I think vader really is faster than the clone. That's kind of funny Yeah, that was it The hardest puzzle in the game Bring all that. Yeah, so the answer for my for me, I guess I'd like to see This is all providing that these are good by the way Um, I want to see how they get into great ghost rider. It kind of goes into like A little bit in the afterlife and you have to involve The devil to a degree and it's like it'd be cool to see how they handle it Well, I imagine it's part of the plan that they hope coming eventually Mifesto He's got robo legs. I mean, he just seems a little slow and you wouldn't have thought, you know But fine. Let us use c3po Or whoever this is God, it's actually kind of unnerving that the troopers they all just smile as you kill them Like like they wanted it No wonder vader has so much like just to deal with When he finally turns evil, they're all like happy about it Mixed messages, you know, uh, if you oh starting season three of buffies mr. Sir of house long Well, hope you have fun with it Um Hey lads, did you hear that act man put up a resident evil late video in the recent hours of today? Goodbye rags and hello green person on the left Hey, I didn't know that I didn't even know Uh worst retcon is highlander 2 no contest Aliens, I have not seen uh highlander 2 Do they make it about aliens? Chat is is highlander 2 really bad? I wouldn't know This very much is a money level. I think it's probably like a farming level actually The last one I I think the the tan of four you mean yeah Yeah, I think it is because I I faint memories of us playing it as kids and being like holy shit. You make a lot of money here Yeah, I would definitely get my minikit detector out of this You guys thought I would get invincibility. I don't need it Um enjoyable bad. It's terrible. It is don't watch it. Was that the one with raiden? Highlander 3 is even worse. Oh no EFAP destroys winter soldier your feelings are mine points at army of the dead making the shang sung face your next Nobody has feelings for that film Don't worry At least well, you know, I'm sure there's one or two or three or ten one out Well, I haven't seen the snider people really talk about it No, because I think they just want the snider stuff to do with like Superman and stuff it seems that way. Yeah And that they've retroactive would be you know what soccer punch was underrated So I would be interested to see that again and wonder if it I because I just have blurry memories of it being a shit show Because that's what it is Yeah, I wonder if there's anything of actual value there if there's some god forbid themes That are like supported and some interesting character stuff because I just can't remember Well, I doubt it. You really exact snider. He seems to get worse as time goes on So theoretically it's going to be better than anything we've seen her like up to now. Well, EFAP stuff You wrote it. Yeah, I was about yeah exactly like my favorite thing of his was 300 It had like actual characters And it kind of had a plot Yeah, it's still ridiculous, but yeah, it's still ridiculous And it was certainly spectacle first, but like it wasn't miserable I enjoyed watching it quite a bit. It was fun to watch It was basically a documentary Oh, yeah I think that's probably his best thing then again because I know watchman's super contentious for people It's like a lot of people hate it a lot of people really like it Um, I'd have to watch it again to know what I think but I could see that being his best thing as well The bar is very low Yeah, the bar is Out of curiosity our floors plot holes, etc more egregious in sci-fi movies compared to fantasy realistic fiction based on needing to be based on science and no facts No, no, I don't think so The problem it would are they Are they saying that are they trying to say the idea that a film that holds or attempts to hold itself to more realistic standards? They have their plot holes are worse as you said before Genre is descriptive not prescriptive and therefore if you have something like Like winter soldier is like I am a down-to-earth gritty realistic film like oh neat also mechanical arm in the The 40s and freezing people in super soldier serum and you're like oh, so now you're you're more sci-fi fantasy now You've become that you know, I mean so like if you if you said is it okay for um Does it make more sense for a grounded thing to have? More accuracy to real life than a sci-fi fantasy thing. It's like the second it doesn't it becomes a sci-fi fantasy thing and I can and I feel like allowances for Like if if if you had a show that was very realistic either like an action series a show Where everything is realistic except for a thing and that's kind of like the the whole point like um It's medieval times except people have I don't know like like maybe one Modern technology for whatever reason has been invented and it but it's in medieval times And that's the only thing that's different I feel like that's a lot my brain can accept that a whole lot more readily than you just stacking things up whenever it seems to be needed Hey rags. You want to see the most plot armor you've ever seen? I've loved to see the most plot armor. Oh my god I feel is Why didn't you why not you you should be shooting r2 r2 burned anaconda live Um, well, yeah, I guess in this narrative. It's really hard to fucking aim with this stormtrooper because he's like He's like I think he autos on to layer a little bit Yeah, it looks that way. Oh god, this is so he's like droid lives matter Oh, oh, there we go getting close Oh die you infernal robot Mary sue Oh, dude, we all Cruella though We hate to say it because a lot of people use that word really wrong But cruella is really pushing it for a mary sue. I think I think it's It's the thing, right? All the characters seem to really like her even the villain loves her. She never seems to fuck up at any point unless it's a time Where uh, you know, like it's significant because she's gonna have a reveal or something Then also, um, all the like issues that come up Yeah, that's kind of where I was going with that. Um, she can't be killed because somebody's gonna Make sure that doesn't happen too But like every problem she comes across she's able to solve with her very specific set of skills You just keep watching you're like, hmm She's never really held accountable for anything that she does. Oh, yeah. Also. She's a horrible person. None of that's necessary for a mary sue Yeah, the film doesn't recognize how bad of a person she is Cruella's really bad guys Because I had my mom got killed by donations That was an excellent scene. You might even say just that's art Yeah, that's a real body writing I hope they were proud of it. I hope they finished it and they were like, you know what? This is gonna change cinema forever. The scene should be taught in every film class Yeah, in every class doesn't have to be about film in every class. Oh, yeah, like mathematics geography Chemistry Cruella develop on that. Yeah Yeah, the patron saint of yes all things the world the patron saint of all things You need to understand her plight A hero that's what she was A hero Uh in army of the dead It would be really cool is said to be a direct quote from the president from the newscasters Why would zack criticize other people like that? I don't even know this the problem with zack snider If that in a normal movie, maybe like wow, they are making fun of the president at that point Um, but with zack i'm like does zack think that that's what presidents think that it would be really cool The new stuff does he think it would be cool the new stuff like I don't know because zack's He's so juvenile Bad writing I can't tell if it's supposed to be that way or if it was that way by accident So it's it's a rough movie that one. I really wouldn't recommend That's one of the ones I would most not recommend because it was a bit of a chore to watch it like it was a bit tough Yeah, I would not recommend that do not recommend army of the dead Wait for the e-fat movie for this one video about it. Oh, yeah Well, funnily enough the repository is working on the snider cut. What is like that's probably another movie. I'd be like I don't know if you want to watch no don't watch the snider cut. Yeah Uh, would you be willing to e-fat movies all of the disney live action remakes and originals like jungle book lion king, etc So we've done it for the dalmatians and mulan Right. That's that's all we've done Yeah I could see us doing lion king one day. In fact, it would be fun if if yms was up for it We could do them back to back just just just to just to die If he's on board, I don't know if he will be Spent a lot of time with that movie And then if you know, we'll probably try and catch them as they're coming out for the newer ones Uh, I don't like you know like lady in the tramp. It's like, I don't even do we have to like So, yeah, I don't know It's yeah, so these are all big babies, but you get into dalmatians one I think you guys will like that. It's the first e-fat movies triple threat. Can you believe it? It's a it's a triple viewing. We're movie hopping. Y'all remember movie hopping. I do See what I remember is fucking a new hope. This didn't happen this way vader didn't walk into this is tech I hate it I unlock Darth Vader yoyo And plays him all the time if I'm not playing as the droidica Droidica is like op if I remember in this game and Django A lot of crying woe jack with smug masks in one three nines comments It's so true Like I said, you don't want to go to that comment section if you want to talk about that debate I would recommend I would recommend reddit before that comment section So, you know, you know, it's that bad, but the discord seems to be pretty fun back and forth The discord one this time. I think it often does but still That comment section is someone else. This is the thing I think I mentioned this to one of you guys before but like that's the one that I've come closest to considering Blocking off and it's not because I don't like the comments. It's because nobody's getting helped in that comment section Everybody's getting angry at each other and it's just like You sort of wonder it's like is it better for everybody if this weren't here? but um You know, I don't really ever want to not have a comment section on a video so You know, sometimes you want to drop a helicarrier on a comment section Well, no not dropping on the helicarrier on the on the on the helicarrier I've lost my train of thought I suppose um, the one thing that's beneficial for it is hopefully that's where it will stay That's where all of the they can get all of their sort of initial anger out in that comment section And then uh as time goes on we'll be able to go over it And like the big thing is Like fringy make an argument any argument at all just make one right now Any argument just make any kind of argument for anything. Um Cookies and cream is the best ice cream flavor It's not really an argument Okay, the reason why it's the best is because it tastes like cookies You couldn't just give me a normal rags. Can you give me an argument other than I can make my point Sure, I think mathematics should be taught in engineering classes So that the structures that arise from engineering classes are safe and dependable So That gets released as a little video and then i'm in the comment section I'm like fucking rags is wrong because it's like Why is he saying that we should only have mathematics in engineering? What a fucking idiot like maybe we should have it in other classes too rags ever think about that I swear to god this this whole this argument was fucking terrible. I couldn't I could barely listen to it So they get very angry they release their counters They believe because they have counters that they're very good And hopefully over time they'll simmer down and in different conversations across different platforms as well as us responding to different comments They'll uh, they'll be able to get the responses sort of looked at in in certain ways And the rags will be able to clarify say I came blasting into this chat saying all of that and the rags is like I didn't say what you said. I said Kind of takes the wind out of the sails, you know But we did it all four episodes. We did it great Now i'm gonna buy my bonuses because I've earned them Bonuses you ready for this or is it where it get gimme Mm-hmm No mustaches. There it is Gotcha Now with my remaining 74 grand Who should I buy? battle droid battle droid commander Droid the car. I'm getting you. I want you conch droid lair sydious rebel trooper They droid the conch Wow sydious is 150 k. I can't even afford him pricing me out mace window is 30 k Oof, what's the game saying? What what's oh these values? You want me to buy conch droid how much is he 250? Well, I'll buy him uh Lone clone clone clone general grievous. He's 200 000. He's more than sydious well Damn, I guess he's cooler maybe because yeah, he's cooler. So therefore If you will be worth more because What that's how that works dude. Boba Fett is 800 just 800. That's it 800. Oh, never mind. It's shitty Boba Fett Oh kid Boba Fett. Yeah Django is power. He's like Anakin. He can go through the small spaces Oh, yeah Everyone's like wait a minute. He's so cheap. Oh, it's shitty Boba. Oh, it's shitty Boba Fett No one likes that one Super battle droid geonotion. Oh Darth Maul I kind of have to All right, so all I want now is Django. So if we play like one or two missions in free play, I'll be able to get him You know what's neat about these games is the more characters you unlock the more they just walk around the cantina It's like hey It was really big sense that we'd be hanging out here, but you know it works Mauler is a long slave owner. I'm buying people in this in this here place for money So they do my bidding. It's kind of fucked up if you think about it So don't think about it Negotiations back to the beginning everyone. All right, I will play as droideka. Where are you? That's the cool thing to play as oh, we got Veda too Uh mola what happened in the video on jenny nickles and the ratio of likes and dislikes were even I just surprised to see so many thousands of downloads. Is there a reason for that? People are retarded Ain't that neat that someone could now be watching ifap go back to that video be like, whoa Everyone hated this one. I guess I'll listen to it. It's like really normal You're like why did what happened? Well for your curious mind Um, oh wait, how do you walk around as a droideka then? Oh, you have to like lightly nudge the thing that's So the jenny nick someone was just like the best summary for the side that hates us Is that a bunch of incels couldn't handle a different opinion The best summary I've got on my end with you guys is a bunch of people couldn't handle a woman being criticized Like it's kind of pathetic, but It is Also, yeah, I don't really know what like more specifically it's the people found out we had a We watched a video And um, they were like to talk about a woman for 11 hours is pathetic and terrible and you should never do it um Like the loads of people saw it and like The visual alone made them go kind of nuts It's really strange As uh, as you guys know, we've covered mostly men and many of them for longer than even jenny You kind of just get lost with the whole thing But yeah, um many times it gets shared on twitter to this day as like Oh my god, the state of criticism that sort of thing When you know for a fact that if jenny nixon did an 11 hour video talking about Some guy's opinion on joker people would love it Yeah, so You know this has come up before um What you guys's opinions are gonna be but like well, let me ask you it's straight If you are trying to get a career on the internet, is it easier for a man or a woman? woman Um, I think it depends if you're attractive, then it's very easy easily a woman if you're attracted But if you're normal then Most of us are Unattractive, yeah, I would say that the general thing is that I'm not sure if you're like a really handsome man Then you have an advantage But if you're like an eight or lower, then I don't think it really matters anymore I think you have as good of a chance. Well, so I guess the interesting thing there then is that uh, if we went through attractive Middling and unattractive who do you think it's easiest for in those three categories? Attractive women for middling. I'd say woman for anything less. It's the opposite. Well, yeah I'm not entirely sure well Because if we've got I feel like you've always got the woman card regardless. Well, so this this is my life You don't know I think I think that if I think that it would be very hard for a woman if she If she was like just downright unattractive, I think it would be really tough for them So I think unless they unless they just never showed their face and then it would be probably the same odds as everybody else I'd say the voice just just the voice might give them an advantage Yeah, so this is what my argument is going to be if they're super ugly. They just need to not show their face ever Um, they'll be fine. Like like we're talking the thing kind of ugly Okay, like if they just don't show their face, then they're going to be on that playing field And if it's a girl They kind of get a benefit over guys whenever they have any kind of specialized knowledge because there's lots of guys on the Internet who are like, oh my god The specialized knowledge woman replace video games Yeah, stuff like that and this is the thing if we're equalizing the experience and brain and stuff Like if there's no There's not like guy who knows all of his his star wars stuff and girl doesn't it's like no, they know the same stuff and so Just um, it reminds me of like fucking my time on xbox live and stuff whenever there was a girl people like go It's like oh cringe Just chill out. It's just a guy. It's not gonna kill you I guess that's because of the fact that like it wasn't surprising to me because I grew up with three sisters so And they all play games. It was like The big thing was it's just it is very uncommon to see like Women on like on psn or xbox live back in the day. It was like, I'm pretty sure the ratio was like 20 to 1 I'm sure it was yeah Active players on those video games. That was kind of the thing the stats go. Oh, it's 50 50 It's like but it's not though. You know that, right? Like it would sound like phone game Yeah, you have to factor in phone games to even start to approach If you're talking about what we generally consider to be like the video game industry, which is The kind of games that like Activision and EA Sony that they make and if you include pc games the ratio was like 10 to 1. Oh, yeah, it's vastly Not even yeah one woman. There's like 10 men who are playing these games And yeah, and I feel like that ripples out into the internet Like as a common trend like just guys are more in most of it I think it depends like because I guess the the exception would be like fashion or or beauty channels, right? Where like the man Yeah, really rare I don't even know if that's true anymore I think it still is I'm pretty sure I know I know fuck all about fashion But whenever I catch wind of any kind of significant fashion youtube news Like whether or not it's going to be a girl or a guy talking is you know, like I I can't even predict it Um, I guess that Well, I guess I I wonder because I imagine like vlogs probably still 5050, right? Like But I guess yeah anything related to media is going to be skewed Unless it's books if we're talking books, then you might have more of a 5050 split But like movies tv shows video games. It's it's not close There's like 10 for everyone probably. Yeah Um, which is fine Oh, well, I mean I Yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm applying you said that I just to be clear. It's okay It's it's fine. I've never kids Let the demographics fall where they fall, you know, like whoever's interested in whatever I guess in terms of how it relates to this topic. It's like, yeah If you're an attractive woman who hasn't interest in things that are predominantly male Oriented you have a big advantage In a certain sense, I guess you might have to push back against like like if people don't condescend to you or something Yeah, you find a difficult you're gonna need your confidence Um, yeah, because to to be fair like you need your confidence even regardless of your uh, sex or gender or whatever Like you gotta be because your voice is one of you know hundreds of thousands So like yeah, it's um, but I don't know it's just because like a lot of I see a lot of casual comments So it's harder for women on the internet. I'm always just like, I mean Depends Yeah, and women are really cruel to other women because of course they are have you not been outside The problem, I guess is like everybody has different definition You know, like someone's saying you're an asshole. You're an asshole every day all day That like counts for nothing compared to saying you're a bitch because that's yeah, exactly If you call a woman a horror then that's victimization of women But men just get called fucking worthless But if you call someone a bastard or a dick or a well, I mean, this is the general thing is that the world is generally less like When men get hurt or killed or harmed, it's just not considered as important Um Unfortunately, even yeah, because I was gonna say if you flip it and they use what's like an insult for men specifically next head chauvinist prick I don't know. I feel it. I guess I'm looking for something a little more. Maybe chat's got one Busted boss. Oh wait. No bastard isn't son of a bitch. See people are saying incel That's an insult to the woman more than it. I mean Yeah, son of a bitch is more well that that works because men love their mothers. That's why the insult works Because that's an insult to the mom not to the guy Man explaining man, baby Um, the point I was gonna make was that these don't get taken anyone near as seriously ever Well, no, I mean, I think I remember I always feel like this is a good example I remember playing black ops 3 and I shot one of the people and there were like a woman And I heard a woman's like scream out in pain. I was like, that's weird Like yeah, it is that is really that that's the kind of shit that would take me out of any video But I guess that's what I'm saying right? That's what I'm getting at. It's not bizarre to see men just be the the faceless goons who get killed But when it's women it's like wait a minute. I don't like this Or not that I don't like it, but it's just bizarre. It just feels weird But I guess your overall point was just like it's a bit normalized right like men taking damage Well, the obvious one is Men getting kicked in the balls is like funny, but a woman getting kicked anywhere is not funny ever at all Like women getting hurt isn't funny, but men getting hurt is off. What do you mean? Cuella fell in the molasses I feel like the clear example is um The that that that infamous view thing where they were laughing about a man getting a penis Yeah Yeah, but don't you make jokes about you know, you know female genital mutilation in you know the middle east that's who It's our culture my dude But I guess that's what I'm getting at is it's just that um men getting hurt is like It's just no big cares or at least that is possible to make sure of men. Yeah Yeah, um What a fun topic Hooray, thanks for coming to our fun super chat video. Have you ever seen iLoveLucy? Yeah, I have I mean there certainly is um, but I mean you can look at even that was a different time But also generally the guys with the butt of the joke like in most absolutely which it's it's darren Who has to deal with the problems and in like I dream of genie. It was um Oh my god, I can't believe I've forgotten their names because I like that show more um Healy wait no Yeah, healy. That's right. Yeah, healy. He's the one who's often like the butt of the joke Of course the flimstones threads the butt of the joke. Uh, I mean, it's the it's it's like a trope the dumb husband Yeah, the dumb idiot husband Yeah, for those of you who still watch normal tv pay attention to commercials The woman will always be in a position over the man Always if something embarrassing happens It will be to the man if they're in a contest the man will win the man will make the stupid observation The man will be proven wrong It's always the man who is put beneath the woman in commercials always. Maybe you don't notice it because you've just like You're so used to it, but actually like watch It happens all the time in commercials You meant you meant to say that in a contest the man will always lose, right? And and yeah, and if there's some kind of a challenge or in a commercial The woman will have the better product the woman will make the better choice The man will change his mind by the end of the commercial when he learns You know what he really should be buying the woman will tell him to buy a product and the man will be like Uh, uh, and then he'll see the sample and then the woman will hand it to him and like a Dude, I'm better than you and I was correct kind of fashion I know it's not fair to really cite this one But I mean come on like the July ad where There's a guy who's like, oh those girls look hot that his friends like whoa, dude Don't be doing that. It's like what what is this like what is happening? What am I watching? I remember the the common one I saw when I was a kid was there are a lot of ads for um You know car insurance and they were just like women are better drivers women are safer drivers Like constantly and I always felt really weird to me like um Because I guess even if it's even if it's uh true, which I guess it probably is Well, yeah, if statistically for whatever it's probably because men probably drive more than women Yeah, I guess it was just weird because I remember like often being exposed to very negative towards men just like things Uh in pop in like, you know society in general Well, here's the difference here is that you have like if if it was if statistically for whatever reason like Women were worse drivers That would not be acceptable to talk about that statistic But if it happens for men, it is totally acceptable to talk about how statistically men are the worst drivers I feel like I feel like um I feel like we're getting better though. Like I think it feels like people are starting to realize Oh, man have kind of been left behind in a lot of ways like lately I've heard it talked about a little here and there and obviously we bring it up here in there as well You hear it more now than you did before um But it's just it's it's almost like a recognition of we spent so long focusing on like uplifting women that we kind of forgot that There were like a lot of men who were totally not Responsible for like any of the bad shit that people complained about Like on a society-wide scale who've just kind of been left behind Um, I mean that's that's what it is. That's what we're out now like men aren't going to university or getting married or having kids They're just sitting at home playing video games. How did this happen? It's like well You know because I don't want a woman to change your mind about me in three years and take half my shit, maybe Just don't marry Well, the thing is is it it doesn't matter if you don't marry the fact their relationship is a thing So if you like going out with someone for long enough It just it just becomes that default status Well, the the you mentioned the Gillette thing, but yeah like Picking up women Is like it was frowned upon like you're not supposed to go out and like show women that you're attracted to them You're not supposed to say nice things and compliment women in public like that's you cannot do that's socially unacceptable That's misogynistic. That's a sexist thing to do and I would say in a way it is but positively so um, but like This idea that just normal dating is a bad thing that needs to be gotten rid of It's like what the fuck I mean, that's why I was talking about specifically that example because um, the guy is like it's like the classic scenario You see a girl. You're like she's Attractive I shall now begin to speak to her although the Gillette's adds like whoa, dude Wow God, yeah, you just wanted to find companionship with someone. This is what I mean It's just like dad. We're knocking that out. Okay. I guess tinder is the only reasonable place to begin But the woman needs to one needs to be the one to initiate the courtship. I was like so women don't like that By it by a huge margin women prefer to be the one approached It's interesting to bring up the tinder example because I'm pretty sure this is just like categorical But like 80 of women will go for the top 20 of men just an appearance on that website It's like most men are totally locked out of that um Locked out of uh, wait for sex robots Well, I I mean, I think it's the future armor thing is like what will happen Um on a wide scale There'll be a lot of people who are just like wow, let's just get a robot like That looks like scholar jazz and and she's living in my house Like I could see a lot of people doing it also damn. Oh, did I not turn on my mini kit detector? I fucks sake Well, looks like we're doing this level again, and then earth will get destroyed by a bunch of aliens I The good ending Destroyed by aliens women I just feel like that that hillary clinton clone of like world war two, you know the women Who's whose husbands died? It's like dude. That was a mistake. Come on The women whose husbands died Not the men themselves who were bleeding out on a beach in fucking in france Yeah, well, it's like it's like priceless on infinite earth the real heroes are the ones we have to keep on keep on going Yeah, dying is the easy part That's a thing that just imagine if like the green arrow was just walking around on on oma hard beach Talking to all these soldiers choking on their own blood. This is the easy part man Your friends, you know, they they got a lot of life your kids back home. I mean, they're they're the ones They're the real heroes. They're the real heroes not you there is Some context that that line might have been delivered well, but it wasn't infinitism I think what they were trying to say is that you know, like to to live on is to not give up So, you know, there is a certain bravery and just continuing But the problem is that when you die That is not easy or fun or anything at all And if you make an ultimate sacrifice, that's not easy either people want to live For the most part those bastards Even the bible got this shit right guys Fucking really I'd like scan through I was just trying to attack the droids I kept scanning like being characters that can't attack I think I think when I was when I was Catholic and in like all the catechism and stuff and all the rules That was like one of the get into heaven free cards was if you sacrificed your life for someone else That was like, oh, yeah, you get to go to heaven if you do that That was one of the The the bible is like, you know greater love, you know There's no greater love than essentially laying down your life for someone else Like this is basic shit So reason why it's called the ultimate sacrifice you're sacrificing like your ability to exist in this world for other people Yeah, it's a big deal if you've decided that their existence is worth more than yours like holy shit On that note. Yeah happy memorial day to all of you Absolutely. Yeah, that's right. We we because people saying it to me. We we don't do we have anzac day That's that's our day plus remembrance day also known as armistice day Anzac day is like Do you have memorial day right and then you have we have two we've got veterans day and memorial day Right memorial day is just to remind awana Memorial day is for the ones who have died veterans day is not for the rest of died. We have two different ones. Okay Well, we we kind of the problem for us It's just because we have anzac day is kind of important because anzac I mean Gallipoli is kind of that that really It's kind of Typically cited as kind of like the birth of the australian identity Anzac day because it was like the first time that we fought under our own flag Um, of course, it didn't go very well. A lot of people a lot of the anzacs died And so yeah, that one was really important. Remember it stays more of just the broad general one Minute of silence the poppy isn't all that Yeah So as a rags wait, what if the person's sacrificing wasn't christian Well, at least according to catholic theology You don't have to be christian to get into heaven There are ways for you to get into heaven even if you are not christian Isn't isn't like the big difference between so like the whole idea with protestant, right? Is you believe and that's what gets you in and that there are others that say well, you've got to do things as well Yeah, i think as a general. Yeah If you're catholic, you can't just accept jesus into your heart or get baptized or any of that bullshit You have to actually be a good person and do good things to get into heaven Whereas there are i i think most protestant Denominations though i'm not certain as long as you accept jesus into your heart as your savior or whatever you're in Boom, you're good in there. You've been baptized. You've been born again. So you're good Uh, and then there are the ones where it's just like, oh everybody goes to heaven It's like, oh it even hit like i guess it's like, yeah It'd be so awkward if you just said, oh catholicism has purgatory Which is probably where most people might go. Um, man, that sounds pretty hella just nothing It's more like a dentist's waiting room. Are you talking about um, uh What is it? This is the billy gram thing. Um annihilation Where if you're bad you just cease existing Oh, no, there are christians who believe that hell is there is not a hell if you're bad You just stop existing when you die. Oh, that sounds great Which sounds way better than eternal torture. Yeah, absolutely. I'll take that one I think I think that just ceasings to exist sounds better than heaven like heaven always kind of concept is kind of concerning You're just happy Was killed by donations. Well that is that's complex. So we so I don't know about that one chat. That's uh, That's an odd one. I'm not sure I always ask the difficult questions Always the difficult question I know purgatory is not oblivion like yeah purgatory is it's south park said it's like you're on a plane that's just waiting to take off You're just not taking off. You're just getting there It's for if you're good if if you're too good to go to hell, but you're not good enough to get into heaven You go to purgatory, which is You're your your soul is purified or you're made ready to go into heaven And then you eventually you get to go into heaven I like the idea that it is an airplane waiting to take off like in that south park when you get on I'm like, oh my god. Fringy. You're here too. You're like, yep. Nope It's very 50 50 Brother plays it. How was the plane? Fine, I guess, you know, it's it's not super comfortable You don't want to be there forever. You know, yeah, yeah, I don't want to be here forever like, you know It's like I hear where we're going supposed to be great, but I don't know. I've got my doubts, but you know, here we are I find it interesting to think about because I'm pretty sure I'm isn't isn't the way that it is with hinduism Is that there are like a few cycles that you go through and eventually you work towards like basically their version of heaven So for instance, if you died now, you're not necessarily going to get straight there It might be like you'd come back as cat for a little while or like you You spend some time as you know a different person than then eventually I think the worst you are the lower down in this in the run as you go Right. Well, because cows are next to humans, right? That's why cows are sacred because if somebody's a cow It's like they were going to be a human soon to have to treat them I'm not too familiar with it. No, that makes sense within that homework. I suppose. Yeah I I tend to like that. What's that? Jar Jar's death sound is fucking amazing Jar Jar's death sound should just be like loud cheering. Well, wait, if you guys if you've got the stream I'll just I'll do it now and you can listen to it. This was half Oh, yeah, uh, well, listen to it, I guess Okay, all right Wow, that's that's like traumatic it is and it I didn't an actual stream of terror It was especially funny because you guys were talking and I came out of the vent up there But I didn't understand like the floor. I just thought I'd be safe. So I just jumped right out and fell down Poor Jar Jar. Anyway, I got all the minikids. So that's good Being attractive is cheat codes high ragu fring and mube Hello. It really does help you in life. Yeah, it is. You're attractive. Yeah, you uh, you definitely we won the You won one of your lotteries being born But you know what? Abraham Lincoln said it best in some ways it might be a bit of a curse because once you reach age 40 Realize that you have no personality. Did Abraham Lincoln say all of this? Yeah He was talking to Kyle remember he's like, oh, shit, of course, right Oh, that's uh, you know, that's um, I don't know. Let's say Cindy, you know Everybody said she was funny clever interesting, but that's only because she was hot And then she realized at age 40 That she's about as interesting as a wet blanket Now look at your young friend Yamal Because he's ugly. He has to work hard to you know, be interesting But that hard work's gonna pay off. He'll have character something attractive people rarely have Like your new like your friend like Clyde I think it was just he was talking to girls offering to buy them shoes And it's only gonna be when he reaches age 40 and he figures out he's a total douche And what was it? Kyle's like just take me home. It's like Kyle. I want you to think about what I said I don't care like, you know, I hate everybody. It's like, well, you're just a fucking asshole He drives off in his little shabby or something That episode's this so many good episodes South Park is amazing That was that was such a good one and then Kyle's lesson is he doesn't want to know that he's hot because You know, he doesn't want to be a douche like Abraham Lincoln said Stands like Abraham Lincoln just By the way, I want it I want it noted Jar Jar has to be in every single free play mode because he's the only one that could jump as high as jar jar can Like they they give you jar jar in every single mission because you have to have jar jar. I just like it. I think it's good All right, give me my Django Django They got a minute kitfisto. It's just like, all right kitfisto Just saying I'm just putting it out there There's Django All right, save hopefully we can buy all the characters by the time I unlock all the things Um, I freaking love arguments and debates like these. I hope chat doesn't take these spicy critiques too personally I would love you guys to crit uh criticize hard and stuff that I like Unfortunately, the only stuff I am somewhat passionate about are old sitcom sketch shows and casual video game franchises like Super Mario Kirby Pikmin Speaking of which Pikmin 2 possibility mohler Um, I was thinking about it. I'm not sure it doesn't run as consistently as Pikmin 1 did So we'll have to put it on the maybe pile I wonder if they're gonna make it Pikmin 4. Oh, you gotta check for lego the hobbit that was recommended Oh, well, um, if you're able to just google it, it should say what platforms it's on and if it is I doubt it's on gamecube. You said 2012, right? I am not sure. I think it might be. No, that was lego load of the rings. Let me check lego the hobbit You think the lego hobbit would have come out after that, right? Or Leggo the hobbit asking which ones came out on gamecube lego the hobbit came out in 2014 There's no way it's on steam for 20 bucks. Maybe just buy a key for it um Wait, what why? I mean 20 bucks isn't so bad for a The full lego game, right? The full game. Yeah Yeah, I guess I guess I guess because it's been seven years you'd expect it to be Well, all right. Yeah For like 50 bucks for like Oh my god, look at me go Best character I'm pretty sure you can fire his missile as well Oh, I do it See this is how you do fan service This is pod racing this is pod racing. He's so right We have to We have debt packs should It's interesting to think about how this is where it really all began for the lego. Yeah This was the one that started it all And then you know in a galaxy far far away 20 years later that we're like, we're going back to our roots, uh, even though Master Chief can run and hasn't And also yeah when you say roots, what do you mean? Because it's okay to fake the franchise in a new interesting direction if it's done well Unfortunately, the problem is anytime I hear a developer say back to our roots. I tend to get very concerned Um, because the people saying that say our when they weren't the people they weren't involved Yeah, I'm pretty sure by the time they say that it's a new team Yeah, like I'm pretty sure there's nobody at 343 who was at bungee in 2001 Like I don't I don't know that there's anybody at that company who who worked on the original game But they're like back to our roots. It's like with your roots. I had like four um So and I think the the clear one was dead rising four It's like we're going back to our roots. It's like dead rising one was made by capcom in japan You guys are in Vancouver. It is not the same team And also this game is nothing like a dead rising one. So why are you saying that? It's like well It's got frank west of this like but he's voiced by a different person. So it's not frank west It's a different guy and he's a totally different person And it's like oh and also you took the time limits out That was like the most unique thing about the first game and it's gone It's okay to say we're going to take what was great about you know, this the core of the series and what made it special And we're going to modernize it That scares me too when they say that we're still retaining the core, but we're changing it to be better. It's like I guess it's one of those I'm thinking about a perfect world where you're like, I don't know Maybe there's a maybe there's like a checkpoints system That's a little better and maybe we could do a lot better with some of the design for the missions and I guess that's the key part though is that you need to justify those changes You need to be able to explain to me why you're making them and not just for the sake of making this like for instance Their argument for getting rid of the time limit. Oh is oh people didn't like it And there's so much to do That would just have it be that you could have all the time you want It's like oh But you understand that the time system like the reason why that was really cool Was because it meant that you had to make very deliberate decisions About what you were doing. It was possible to like lose that game And it meant the story and beat certain stages you unlock that mode to be used in free play mode Where there's no time limit and you can explore to your heart's content It's just like the main game except you have to yeah, they just make it just make it a uh Well, the problem is you need to balance it. That's the reason why they didn't want to do it They gave me fake jetpack Fuck you. Oh, no, you couldn't fly across. Could you there's no he needs floor? It's like lame The only the only time they changed the core of something for the better was the mcc Are you joking or are you fucking with me? The core is joking What like the spores, they're so great aren't they in the halo It's not something I ever bitch about No Every time I play that game I spawn at least in one game into like fire Or I see somebody spawn right in front of me Every game is always always once Um And yeah in in in regard I like the idea that someone super chat like more arguments about things I love It's like wow The one guy out there You know holding that flag waving it back and forth. Thank you very much You know someone who is highly allergic to 27 different trees weeds and grasses being told to go touch grass Is very offensive and it's quite insensitive And it's kind of ableist to people without allergies, you know Well, genuinely if you were to Tell the people who like like who is I'd say super lefty that they might actually stop doing it Oh, yeah So if someone's got like allergies that prevent them from touching grass and trees or whatever Yeah, that's a good point actually, they would obviously be like I wouldn't I didn't mean that Yeah, I'm so sorry. Please don't give me band old twitter. It's too late We've collected all the tweets Well, they needed to cool it like 10 years. Yeah, the phrase within reason does not have it doesn't exist in their world What is this reason you speak up Every time I try to jump to someone on command in a quick the horrible scenario. It's always the useless characters I just thought Um, hello fringoo long man and high rags. Hello Uh, I hope you lads are having a great day. Fringoo. You were right About what? I don't know. I've lost the context for that. Take the compliment. You know what? Yeah, I was right about whatever if I was to assume anything it would probably be winter soldier All right. Thank you so much. It's nice to hear that Uh, being attractive is oh wait, all right that one speaking of forbidden stats men pay the most taxes and women are majority net beneficiaries Well, well, that probably is true, right because men make more money and women have babies barbis Well, yeah, but um, I think that's the problem, right? Like we see those statistics and we're like, yeah, that makes sense But then they do the whole wage gap thing and it's like, oh, but but also though just just like this does um Just like child support or alimony is that taxable income or? I don't know would be question because if it's not then that would also explain why as well, right? I don't think it is. I I don't I don't think it would I guess because the guy would pay tax on that when he earns the money right Yeah, like when he taxed twice over I imagine Yeah, I guess not. Well, yeah, that would explain a lot as well But I mean the the standard statistic is like more men die at the workplace. That's like the common one Yeah, well, yeah, and the suicide rate for men is higher This suicide rate for men is very a harmless rate. It's death on jobs Don't get to have, you know, don't don't get to see their kids or don't And also just they live less time They live shorter Um, so like talk about privilege. You have the privilege of living longer than Then on average The the internet feminist age did not convince me that um I'm the I'm the superior gender. Let's see. I feel like uh, the political the political zeitgeist changed now Like people don't care about that as much anymore. The big thing is like class I think I think we're still on the race thing. I think we're still in a black phase right now So I think I think what we had was it was women about four or five years ago And then it went on to race for a while and I think we are either in the class part or transitioning into it Because now the big thing is like people people shit on like white women a lot now Like that's a common point of insult like it doesn't matter that you're you know It's similar to the whole like the black men or the white men White women are the the white men of women Yeah, I don't like that um It seems like class is the new thing now as we go into this sort of the the the tanky era or the you know socialist era of politics in the united states fun ahead We will simply sit here and talk about how bad star was this No, it's it. So I think it's not intersectionality. I think it was a while ago and now it's not Now it's like that's being disregarded by a lot of people. It's just I think that's the fight right now Yeah, the fight is does intersectionality and you know what if if I had to pick one of the two Yeah, I'd probably want intersectionality over just class Class is too simplistic you can derive a lot from class to be sure but like that ain't all there is to the world It's not just about money So well, he says it's not about money, but which it is sending a message Harley Man, they probably would have given him a Harley by the time like if he obviously didn't die You know sometimes I don't trust the minikit to tactics. I'm like am I ending the level soon or is it around was what's going on Guide me. Oh great machine. What man? He just jumps so high. It really does. You'd think they would give you like One other gun gun that could do that so that it feels as though it's a little bit more varied But it's like yeah, Jaja's just coming with us every time we need him Which is nice, you know, I like me some job If it's on class why is crt something so what I think is happening now is that um If you look at the political sort of landscape at the moment, it feels like a lot of the bigger growing Sort of commentators are into the sort of socialism thing, which is a lot more class oriented than what we had before in terms of what was common because remember like a few years ago is a lot of that sort of feminism and then it's sort of transition Maybe it's all one big spooky cycle and we'll just redo all the other ones It's absolutely cyclical swings left them right then left them right and it just keeps doing that over and over and over again It's um, it is a big old pendulum. It just keeps swinging It's a lot less pendulum Could be a call I would swing anywhere anytime Left wing right wing. So this doesn't matter. I just love swinging. Here I go swinging again Yep His super power is swinging so hard that he knocks people off clips Uh, I'd recommend watching dr. K's interview with abba atlas on men's issues hmm I have no idea what that is, but sure Uh, I'd recommend oh wait, uh evening gents at least here in this part of the states Uh Oh, right evening gents at least from this part of the states. Yeah Thanks for all the streams keep me company while I enjoy some alcatism stay massive. Have you considered possibly talking about books? um I guess we haven't but I don't read anymore Um, I try to read I'm gonna say like we don't really do book review, but I mean If we swap the books, I mean, you know if ring if you're or if you read a book You want to review it go right ahead? I guess I'll listen I guess I mean fiction books which would be different from a lot of what I've been Sure. Um, but I just don't read anymore. I don't have as nearly as much of an interest in it I'm very interested in games and movies I do like my books Yeah, great. I just I think I think books can easily turn people or certain books can easily turn people off because like if a writing style You don't like it can be hard to press on I have to go through the whole level. Where is the mini kit and why is this statue not exploding? Did I get the mini kit from it already? I don't like it when I can't break things in my lego world What you're gonna have to get used to it No, it's the this world isn't just here for your amusement Yes, it is And to say otherwise is to challenge my emperor-ness I may not have unlocked palpatine yet You'll be soon Ask for any what he thinks about sigma males What is is that like an actual term or It's like a male who doesn't consider himself or doesn't participate in the typical Hierarchy Oh, I I like that because the first picture that comes off is lone wolf and I really like the iconography of the lone wolf I think it's I think it's neat. Yeah, it says a sigma male is a man within the socio-sexual hierarchy Who chooses to live his life outside of the normal social dominance hierarchy structure society? Oh, it's neat Yeah, it says according to urban dictionary. It is a man who Is uh, oh, well, it just it just says that they focus on like whatever they're doing Yeah Mastery strength world-class social skills ability to be alone And I think we talked about that in the reH stream the ability to be alone. It's got to cultivate that Where is the last mini cat? Anyone chat now you're really struggling there Well, I have a detector, but it doesn't seem to be working They rumble on Yeah, it's definitely on Did I miss it? Just as you begin the level hug the right wall. Oh, no I don't even know if I can get back there. Let's hope we can one of the things that I thought was kind of neat Was how far back I could go in the other levels, so I'm sure they nailed it That doesn't help if you don't tell them where it is He's telling where no someone someone else said it's apparently at the beginning if you hug the right wall Oh boy, you got to go through the whole level Hopefully I can I think they let you in these games But not always you can separate parts with cutscenes and then you'd be like, oh no Like the last levels probably like that um Seeing that lego game is a wonderful time capsule showing all the old sets and how they used to do them Like the clone wars on the yoda level have advisors cut out and it's a black minifigure head Neat It's an interesting detail. Yeah, because that's how a lot of the old school ones were. Yeah The helmets would you'd be the the character that the lego minifigure would just be a Pure black head and you would put the helmet on top of them and then the advisor would be a cut out. Yeah um Tell me a joke re8 script or you can't say that It's a silly game. You know, it's supposed to have supposed to be a joke, which means you can't laugh at it Or something I'm gonna admit. I'm kind of impressed that someone knew that this is where it was Well, I mean, I guess there are people who like experts at this game I just didn't think there would be but yeah It'll help out when I'm getting lost on a bunch of other ones All right, I have all my minikids I can leave I'm gonna leave this jaggle because it's cool Have you guys heard of actual justice warrior? I think you'd be a pretty good guest Um, I think I might have heard of him through adam and sitch. I think I've heard that name Gonna check out the silo movie. If so, you should have a farmer on The silo movie. I don't know. Is it a farmer movie? I'm not familiar with the silo movie. Let me let me check. It would be upset if they didn't get their farming rate in 2019 It is Yes, thank you people in chat I needed that says, um Disaster strikes in a small american farm town when a teenage boy becomes the victim of a grain entrapment As corn becomes quicksand inside of a 50-foot silo The town locals must put aside their deeply rooted differences to save him from drowning in the grain they harvest I mean interesting premise How long do they have to save him? because until he sinks down, I guess and Drowns in the grain I just wouldn't have thought that would be that fast. Maybe I've been tricked because it happens in the last of us It's not sorry quiet place And uh, it's really quick Who knows? Yeah National redneck horror film drowning in the grain Have you heard the correct? There's a silo. There's a big grain silo at my uh, grandparents place and I've never climbed it and I need to All right This is this is my mental note to remind myself that I need to It by a whole life that silo's been there and there's a ladder and everything that goes right up the side and the All that stuff, but I just I've never actually climbed up to the top and I need to and every time I say Oh, I'll just do it. I'll do it eventually and I've never been afraid to do it. I just it just one of those Yeah, I'll go do that sometime I just never do it and I need to maybe it's one of those things where you finally do it And then you see that there's like a skybox and like limitations on the world and you're like, oh my god Like they didn't finish editing this part of earth And that you've always been Distracted from going up there because they haven't finished rendering it yet Oh, yeah, there's a break in the matrix, uh glitch in the matrix that you know trope in belch No, no Django no belch Django Have you heard the correct s e for sitch and adam? Say that one more time. Have you heard the correct s e for sitch and adam? I'd correct s e I am not sure what that means Tell us wonderful chat. What does that mean? I don't know what that means sound effect Sound effect Why not write why not use your words? They definitely had enough room to say sound effect. Yeah Have you heard the correct sound effect for sitch and adam? Does that make sense someone said don't drown in the corn No, no, it's it's it's empty. It's it's hollow in the inside. It's uh, it's not actually used anymore It's just a leftover from an old I get either they for whatever reason they stopped using it. Um I I think the I guess the ownership of the farmlands that surround my Grandparent because my grandparents live in an old plantation house Um, and you know over time the different land around the the the place changes ownership and Hands and I I guess they never needed to use the silo for grain or they never No, maybe they swapped harvesting. They I guess you never needed to they just never needed the silo Um I I don't know if you use it for I don't know if you use it for corn or not I'm not sure but I get the for whatever reason. They just don't use it. It's empty. It's a hollow on the inside Facial addition it's all eternal. I don't think anyone knows what s e for sitch and adam means s e Some some people say sound fx. Oh people are saying it's a it's apparently it might be like a Reference like an in meme thing Oh, if that's the case, I'm not I am unaware of it. I'm afraid I bet it's very funny What's this a stream on my birthday talk about something gay like betas or talk about something straight like buffy I mean, I think we've talked about plenty of gay and straight things already. I don't know indeed I like fucking dudes there And I like fucking chicks. So there's your we got a double dose. I'm gay something straight a little something for everybody Put it all in there put a ride in there I didn't you didn't have to bring it Yeah, that was just shoved it right in okay Oh, I'm just uh, no, it's just it's just uh, you know when you haven't Drawn for a while and then you do it. It's like, oh fuck You're drawing zoidberg I'm not drawing It's ringing. Do you draw zoidberg and sexually compromising scenarios? No, I wouldn't no, I don't you wouldn't I don't that's an interesting answer I don't I don't know if I wouldn't it just seemed like a go a defensive answer. I wouldn't do that No, I didn't say I'm convinced of it. I said I don't not that I would you know, you got to explore your artistic boundaries No, it's fine. Yeah, that's what yeah There's just some references here that they paint they paint a picture. I'm getting an idea My dream job is to be a furry porn artist and I will be famous and I'll make many many dollars Are you like serious or? That's a yes. No, I like I like what I do Maybe one day I will practice and I will be the most amazing furry porn artist that ever artisted And I will I will draw many wonderful colorful things that the mind could never envision I I know I see I just you like you like ratchet and client Caldron fucking I I I don't know why I would want you like banjo kazooie Fuckins just fucking Look, I No, I mean what I feel like I wouldn't want to ever see that Yeah, let him stick with the void big why are you making it weird all I was gonna say He's born for the for the art of storytelling. That's that's what I want You can have the art of storytelling in porn You can but I feel like Pornography like comics and things that are very sexual in nature But have characters that I care about and relate to give much I'm much more interested in their sexual escapades If I care about them like two characters You know sure, but like but I'm not interested in in their escapades I just wanted to see what stories and struggles I have to deal with on their parts You know doing whatever it needs. Oh, there's gonna be there. There's gonna be some struggles Don't you worry? Oh, yeah Yeah But how do they feel about each other just how do they get into the scenario? I can't believe it I've had these feelings for so long, but is this what what is it that I feel is this love is this lust Do you remember the wibbly wobbly pad may face? Uh on the oh on the wall. Yeah, it turns out You hit it with the force and money comes out and it stops wibbly wobbling. That's it Oh Like all that all that mystery It's just a bit of money it's just money. Well, I mean that shouldn't surprise you in this game. I wanted a mini kit Oh I feel that every time something weird happens in this game. It should be a mini kit. Give me Give me me Um Oh, so I'm gonna read this out, but I'm gonna have no idea what it means. It's up for you too Um, it's it's a little it's about two paragraphs So I'll just read it all in one and then you can make of it what you will I actually find the endings of mass effect extremely interesting from a moral standpoint Destruction ends the reapers and shepherds survives, but at what cost of massive collateral damage synthesis forcible Evolves everyone forcibly revolves everybody. Um, whether they want it or not Uh, the control ending isn't what people think it is it subsumes shepherds memories and a point of view Into the shared consciousness of the reapers it effectively changes their perspective to cooperate instead of destroy very good balance of moralities What no the second one's evil I'll um, I'll copy it and paste it so you guys can read it again if you need to because I have no fucking clue what any that means Okay, sorry. Yeah, go for it Let's see control ending isn't what people think it subsumes separate memories into the point of view of the shepherd it effectively Uh, changes their perspective to cooperate instead of destroy. Oh, sorry. I was reading it backwards um Synthesis is well, I mean So the problem is that when it comes to Look, I'm doing the spider-man meme Uh When it comes to the idea of your choices influencing the story they don't That's like the main issue with this with uh with the mass effect three ending everything you did didn't everyone gets the same three endings Yeah, there's one choice is the only choice you have which is kind of out of the And of course you never got the choice to just refuse these requests until they added it in in the director's cut And when you do you lose which is annoying that there isn't any way to refuse and still win on your terms You can only ever win on the terms of this weird space kid Bizarre imagery they decided to have as well I don't know. Yeah And who built this place Oh, it was in the crucible wasn't it so they built it with these in mind. I guess I don't know why but When you think about all the things they could have done And how just depressing all of the endings are Just like why why would you do this? Why would you trip on the finish line like this? Because we were because I think we were all just sort of expecting Hooray, you beat the reapers the galaxy is saved. Who knows what amazing adventures will await in this wonderful world that you've created Hooray, and then the credits roll and you feel really great about yourself And you're so excited for the next massive that game and they were just like they were like fuck that Yep misery You know, um, you guys remember Gemini man I Think I don't think many people remember Gemini man. I never saw it, but I know If you get the stream up. I've created Gemini job Yeah, I see. Yeah. Oh my goodness. It'd be a really good movie Gemini jar. Whoa You're breaking all the rules computer is like can I restart right now and I'm like no not really Asshole, just it was fine Let's delay that Someone mentioned hell it annoys me in mass spec 3. They put so much So much focus on the kid. We only met the damn kid for a minute to see him get lasered. Yeah That it annoys me. It's a really I feel like it was just a really cheap way of saying you see that sad that the kid died When the earth got invaded you care now, right? Like I feel like it comes across as cheap and unnecessary like I don't so I so here's the thing about earth I've been there Um, I care about it as a player I you don't need to convince me that shepherd cares about it or that I wouldn't want to save earth And it's I guess it's doubly weird because we've never been to earth before in mass effect the closest we got was the moon in mass effect one um and That was Yeah, that's one of the coolest parts too of aspect one is you get to go to gots go to luna And you could look up in the sky. You see you see earth And that was as close as you got in mass effect to earth until mass effect 3 starts you there Um, is is that it? I guess I'll add it was cooler to see earth from the in mass effect one It was cooler to see earth from the moon's perspective Then it was cooler to be on earth in mass effect 3 I meant like In regard to the Uh the question, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't I haven't played the game since like it first came out Really? I haven't retreaded the games too Not that much certainly not recently um uh But uh, I don't I I don't have much to say on it, honestly Yeah, that's all good Now do you hear about how games workshop hide an executive from hasbro? They then remove the fan community animators. They just announced warhammer plus another streaming service These streaming services are just going to bring back the naps to era of piracy I know the astardies guy uh I So what happened was what what I bet what I would bet money happened is Hasbro games workshop came to him and they said all right. This is this has gone on long enough We're gonna like fucking copyright strike you or something unless you work for us I think that's that's almost assuredly what happened and very Like when I learned that the starty's guy, um All that stuff's not on youtube anymore and they change sound effects and they fucked with the sound balancing And it's not as high quality on their own website like that was Like no one liked that And I already I think I knew at that point like I haven't cared about it since when I realized that Now games workshop has got their fucking tendrils into the project. I don't want it anymore This was like a guy's vision and it was the one thing that a lot of people liked about warhammer It was the thing that people have wanted From warhammer for ages and it wasn't the official fucking company that put it out It was a guy who was passionate about it and now I think it's just going to become another corporate product And it's gonna like I just don't trust it anymore. They've got their fucking filthy hands in it It's not just a guy's vision anymore. They're gonna have an of the ultimate say in what is and isn't in that stuff Wow, and I just I can't imagine I I I can't imagine what kind of person pays for warhammer plus Yeah, I mean I could be free like on the internet. Um but And it's supposed to have like 11 animated shows and stuff like that. I'm like, they're all gonna be fucking shit There's the full there's the reuploads But I well, I can't find the the official channel only has one video Stardis goes official And that was two months ago, but all the videos are no longer part of the channel There's there's only one video on the astardis channel and it's just we're going official To go here and I'm like, um Uh-oh Yeah, riparuni. I guess because I just I'm very much out of the loop on that one Congratulations, dude. Excited to see what comes next. Fuck off, dude Rip is this fucking rip Like they like they could put a bunch of continuous music in it and they changed a lot of the sound Shit and all that stuff isn't on youtube anymore Like uh like no, they just want to control it and they want to monetize it for themselves Um, I know unironically miss ruby rose with her. It was just funny bad, but now it's aggressively awful I would even consider crisis on infinitisms better than the second season so far I don't think that's possible, but maybe for the enjoyment, but like Yeah, you know I could I get it like ryan is really annoying. Um He's also kind of evil. So yeah, it gets well She's got that in common with kate, I guess Okay, it was funny evil. Yeah, and she became evil really really quick. Um, but quicker than I thought anyway It's just so funny that it's almost reliable that shitty writers make horrible people Yeah, that's not that hard to write good people Just because they often don't even know what they're implying when they make a character do a thing um Yeah, we uh, we still need to catch up on that one. I'm sure we're gonna be excited by all of ryan's antics Imagine how marble created the situation where we know there can be multiple visions at the same time who can be Resurrected and they don't even have the characters start using him an endless supply of smart missiles for every problem they have so The thing that we need confirmation on Is can they reproduce vision or did they simply put him back together? And that they can't reproduce him but the thing is it wouldn't make sense that they couldn't reproduce him because The device that made him was earthbound like it wasn't like crazy science or alien thing To be honest, that's kind of a problem for age of ultron like a big problem I don't even know what that machine was and we don't see it again It was the uh, what was it called the Something chamber because they use it for healing hawk out of the beginning as well. Yeah Yeah, they should have had that throwaway line. We've discontinued it because it made ultron Kind of not really but still Yeah, it's locked up waiting for the review or study so then they could bring it out whenever they need it again About yeah, I mean that's probably mcu's world is so full of stuff now. Yeah This crazy science fiction tech This is the funny thing right like when winter soldier introduces those face masks for a real cool little payoff You are you like you still need to have that conversation like these guys you do be Do all these beads for the rest of the mcu like any time you're a fugitive on the run get that mask and you find Actually, we've we've just invented a scanner that can detect sci-fi face masks like It's how it's going to be we've we've invented this to counter that well We've invented a counter to the counter. Oh, yeah, well, we have a counter to the counter to the counter I don't think they're even gonna go that far right. So just gonna forget it. It's gonna forget about it Yeah, just gonna forget about it. Well Fun fact and we did go over this before I'm pretty sure but it's still funny to think about When we did the mando stream way back in the day Do you remember we spent like a good hour? Maybe even two talking to chat about the fobs How they fit in and what's gonna happen next depending on what context they provide and how season two Will assuredly make it clear what the fobs are about how they work and what they do and then Didn't they just not show up whatsoever Literally just ignored them In season two, I don't even think they were mentioned a single time and they needed them too Yeah, uh, that's the thing. I I we were totally correct. Um Oddly enough, maybe the best thing for them to do is to just act like they never happened That's broken too, but I don't know. So I would scrub season one again and see if how we can find out how we can Disinvent them in terms of like what they were were a particular thing and that we can't do it anymore Like the best, you know, so that it's something instead of literally ignoring it, but Yeah, maybe we can say it was special for baby Yoda But it's gonna be hard to argue it was special for when we got it applied to all those other guys That um, you know, I feel like with a bit of time we could probably look at the references and be like, you know What it was only tracking people who had previously been caught Even that's a bit dodgy in there Yeah, because even because with the script that I have so far the Mandalorian pretty much every every star wars episode is affected In a really bad way if we go under the assumption that you have to be captured to have a father flying Yeah, assuming you have to be captured The amount of times that people are captured in star wars is kind of staggering when you start tallying it up. It happens a whole bunch All of our here everyone has a fob on them everyone um Apparently fobs were mentioned in season two episode four, but that's it. I didn't even know they were mentioned I'd have to I'm a little rusty on my memory for Do Play Half-Life and GTA San Andreas. They're fun for single player games Again, I'm kind of just uh bleeding dry the game cube um Before then probably because there's loads of different games to play in general, but Like the only reason I'm playing lego is like, oh, there's another another dolphin game. I haven't played yet. Why not? You know what? I'm having fun. I like lego Yeah Do you know the evil j axi plans to make a video talking about the lego games not be very good They're probably not That's what I was gonna say I was waiting for someone to be like what ever like but they are fun and goofy, but like they're probably not good games really No, mechanically, they are incredibly simple, but like it's just amusing Like for a lot of the stream, I've been just idly playing seven days to die, which is It's like it's peak best worst game There are so many things about it that are just broken and Goofy and weird and there are so many things about it that I like and that it does kind of well It's just the most it's the it's the best worst game Uh, but beh mola, please get a cat a cat a catabic angel agent yeah agent on um academic agent why don't I I think it's like Ignore me. Anyway, uh on efap. Also. Are you tank engine piled also high rags? Hey I don't know what that means Is this is this another new meme am I getting that old now? What's this tank engine piled thing guys? I have no idea Well, I shall I shall keep an eye on chat see if I can find out as time goes on Uh, well high top just uploaded a video saying batman forever is a misunderstood masterpiece. Jesus. I think I'm losing it um Well high tops in a phase now where everything is great. I think yeah He'll go out of it. He'll get out of it eventually. Yeah It's um, it's the chris stuckman phase because you're you realize you're making stuff And so now you don't want to be encouraging people to criticize stuff That would be bad. Which is out of music. You should be consistent. I you know like try You know, you should just downright cowardly Well, yeah, because it's it's kind of interesting right because like well I want to write a book and it's like well, you're gonna be judged pretty harshly for that It's like, yeah, as I probably ought to be you want to be criticized other people work Well, I would want to and yeah, but it's also like even if you don't want to it's like well You criticize other people's stuff. So you should be cool with that happening to you, you know Well, what if they repent for you? What if they say, you know what? I was wrong I was wrong what I did wrong. I think I think that's the strategy They're trying to be like no, see I'm not you know, I respect everybody's work equally Well, that's the hilariousness that is high top So he'll be like stay the fuck away from artists. Let them do what they want He says to people who are creating what absolutely qualifies as art Yep You just too fucking like I seriously feel like you could do the paradox for robots thing on him He would be like stunned Mmm, that's not how that works. No Froggy, I love rayman 2 specifically rayman crackhead rabbits. I mean meaning rabbits rabbits I I assume they mean raving rabbits, whatever it is. Um, all right. Well, I I like legends and origins Uh, they said it's so fun. Tell them all to play it also act man poops on reh Well, what else is he gonna do? Well, I hope so. I mean like that would be it's one of those litmus tests for are you actually going to review the game Or are you just kind of say who I liked it was fun There was a big lady in you not make a the super weird one rises as people told us because I haven't seen it I'm just going off what people said, but uh I could you're ripped into it but I gave it a seven. It's like, what? Yeah, like I Seven I know it doesn't sound it but it's kind of a high bar Like I don't think I can give seven days to die over a five if I had if I was really had to think about it hard and You know, there's a lot of stuff like I don't know. It's such a weird game to review But I don't but it doesn't change how I feel about it. You know, I'd love to play it but He act man also said re7 returned to his roots. Well, I guess he's lucky I didn't see his video because he would have gone in the montage What can everybody said it Because if you again, I'm assuming you would have seen my video very perfectly gone by now But the arguments were basically there's safe rooms. There's A an atmosphere that's kind of creepy You have a limited inventory It was pathetic Or is the series returning to its roots? Absolutely. Yeah You still get it. Oh, you're like guys like Why why are you doing this to me stop it? Uh, you wouldn't get it old man. Hi fringology Hi, yeah, hey, I guess I was reference to the the thing like Critis everything is amazing um The refusal ending being a loss because of the idea that the reapers in force are simply too powerful And you can't beat them without some kind of new super weapon. It's not like that's something that couldn't happen Unsatisfying. I don't know what to say. I don't I don't recall ever saying that none of the endings could happen in that universe It's just stupid bullshit that nobody liked Yeah, um, I would probably cite uh, good ol game of thrones. Um A lot of it was nonsense and out of character But if you really wanted it you could make it so that the white walkers have heart attacks and all die Oh, I didn't know that could happen. It's like, um, yeah, I mean they're just they're beings like anyone else. They they have functions Unfortunately, they gave out And if someone was like, no, it's too unrealistic. It's like, well, you know, are you stabbing him to death that A lot of people loved that by the way when it first came out The fucking opinions changed on that pretty quick though so, um Fringy the what I remember in mass effect 3, uh There was something about how the how the The what were the protean proteans are building some sort of super weapon against reefers, but they never got to finish it The crucible that's what you spend the whole game building. Yeah, okay. What um, what did that do? I think it connected to the citadel. The citadel was part of the crucible. It was like, oh, it was It turned out to be like a trap or a Well, I think it was a big reaper killing device, right like the the Proteans created the citadel and they created the crucible which they were going to use to uh To stop the reefers, but they didn't finish in time And so the humans you know the galaxy now finishes in time and connects and then it kills all the reefers I think that's the idea So if the reaper so if the crucible kills all the reefers, how come we have to make our decision of the three paths I don't know. I can't remember that I haven't or remembering it too because I was just thinking well We could have just had the game where you assemble The gun and then the final like if you had to bundle Bottle neck us, but you didn't but if you had to bottle neck us like it would be how you use it And if this is the way that manifests then like fucking hell. What happened? Um, all right If one can come up with their own objective standards, then how can you say to someone else who has standards that something is good or bad? um So the the the big pill that everyone's got to swallow And uh evan roe said this in the video that we covered from him and I think We're around efap 70 or something Fundamentally nobody praises stories But they like for things that aren't connected at all Nobody likes stories and payoffs because of how much they don't follow cause and effect. That's just not a thing And what i'm suggesting is As soon as you talk to these people for more time than a tweet You'll find out that they like it when stuff makes sense the prime example just right praises The holdo po relationship and how she doesn't tell him stuff and he had many reasons for that All those reasons were non-functional And then he was silent They can claim it all day long that they don't actually care about things making sense But they're lying They'll be defenses that rely on things making sense Um no no no it actually makes sense guys. It totally makes sense. You just you know try to explain everything to try anything It's it's tough but um If if they're like well, no, what what what is a good film is whatever makes me feel happy um Again, I you're at a point where it's like so this is a useless standard in everything basically and you know that And so we can't really have a discussion Um unless you know, we could we could get a little bit just being like what is it you liked the problem is When they say something like I really enjoyed the opening fight sequence in tlj and you go. Oh, why is that? Like well, I really thought that it was an interesting sort of idea to have po make the mistakes that he did And so now we've we've we but we were in one place now we're in a different place in the conversation They just made a claim And that claim is going to have to rest on references So um, yeah, what I'm suggesting with that is the conversation will very quickly move out of subjective territory or even the territory of my um standard is simply that I like it like it's probably more than that You know like on the surface you could say it's that but it's probably more than that Um And this is the thing I I think we've said this for a while, but Um, whatever holes could be poked in the standard we use you'll never find one that's more consistent like It's pretty much impossible because like it's it's reliant on the fundamental structure of storytelling. So of course it's in all stories Like um So that's about so this is why stories are an account of a series of events The events themselves occur in order whether it's sequential doesn't mean it's um not causing effect as well Yeah, just um Flashbacks flash forwards or literally just like pulp fiction style. It's like if you've got the complete picture You didn't have to see it in order And again, I don't know that is that an example. That's like an extreme And I don't even know that that's an example of someone saying like it was good that it didn't make sense I don't think that's how they would phrase that Because it would They'd be like, oh, that's how it all fits in because that's usually what non sequential storytelling does It's trying to keep certain information away from you until revealing something that clicks it all together If any of the super chats from 127 been caught up on. Oh, yeah, I've been jumping between them Story is a sequence of events. I would amend that with the very important bit. It is an account Of a sequence of events a series of events. It's an important It allows for stuff like um unreliable narratives to exist Well, the will the the sequence of events is the thing itself all of the stories that we have all of the Narratives that we have movies books tv everything is an account of things It's not the things themselves. The things of themselves are the events Like a like a a documentary about world war two is an account of a series of events Well, yeah, because there's a perspective. It's the perspective is the important part That the story is a perspective on an events that happen And not like a perspective. It can be an impartial perspective, but it is still a perspective nonetheless In fact, when I normally say an account of a series of events, it's slightly redundant an account of a series of events You could just say an account of events because events aren't necessarily temporal So highlights are better though. Yeah, I think so too because if you said a series of events that could be disconnected Uh, no, not a series of events could be disconnected Yeah, if I said I can tell you about three events that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be connected Where's the series of events? They are necessarily collected Which is why I feel like that's Apology you can have an anthology. Well an anthology is events Their stories within the anthologies would still be a sequence of events a series of events Yeah, like anthology is a collection of stories essentially Yeah, but each story is still usually linked. Yeah, exactly like the reason you're an anthology rather than random But still Then just call it a just call it a um an account of events But the account is important it distinguishes the math of a series of events. I like that definition I think it covers all the bases Yeah, just uh, but you have to have an account in there. We have to distinguish the map from the place I'm gonna miss too many kits again. God damn it I swear to god, I'm looking out for the flashy arrows. All right I'm gonna refill my beverage and be right back Someone in chat is like updating someone else on just current events like winter soldier was found to be a two out of ten Like the news, you know when you're at isle del fido, they run the news like what the soldier is a two out of ten Mario Oh, no No Mama mia I thought that was as fine as a bowl of spaghetti It was so fun Can you get away with like italian steroids? I think I think we're okay. So for now, they'll come from event. I don't know that we are Actually, um, well actually no, I don't think we are here's the story. There's a youtuber in australia who's being sued by uh by um The deputy prime minister of uh new south wiles because he basically called him like a wong Isn't um But that there's much more of a personal vendetta there than simply the uh Oh, sure. I guess it's this but you're there is there is the claim that it is racist to call an italian a pejorative Oh, I thought you were just asking is it Is it punishable by cancellation to do italian accents? I didn't realize that's what I guess I guess, uh, I guess all european ones are fine for now Well, unless well, unless turkey counts is in jord, you might not be able to get away with that, but um Well, yeah, I guess um, maybe maybe spanish would be the one you can't get away with Ah, there's one of them sneaky bastard I think in the the later ones they have the flashing like arrows all times So you can kind of make out where you're supposed to go In this it's only if you if it's on screen, which is It's a little bit redundant, but Oh, by the way to To clarify this issue if if it is decided that oh no that one isn't a stereotype anymore because that's just white That just highlights how stupid racism is Stupid racism. It's well. Yeah, basically It's all stupid arbitrary distinctions. You said something that was Clever there for me because the standard definition like like racism classic racism That is stupid, but then also new racism is really stupid as well. Yeah, it is. It's all stupid. Let's treat each other equally No more racism. All right, and for those of you who don't know wog is basically a slur against italians, greeks, lebanese people in australia Because we have a lot of I think I think melbourne is the second largest population of uh of greek people outside of outside of greeks itself I don't know about lebanon I'm not even sure why it will prove as a group together I feel like leban um I can't speak for everybody but based on some people i've listened to returning to its roots refers to the game ditching the Michael Bay action and trying to be conventionally spooky again um Well, no because people say return to their roots for anything including games that aren't uh horror focus like halo halo The marketing for halo infinite is it's like halo one. That's kind of what they're going for By that they just mean oh, you're unlike a big halo ring and you're exploring and it's all new and mysterious and that would be their explanation I thought I thought they were assuming to referring to resident evil. Um, oh, well, I guess they yeah, I guess They would be but the problem is it's like it's it's got to be more than that Let's go. Yeah. Hello a lot more. Also. Thank you chatter. I have found the mini kit. Whoa Oh, yeah, I saw army the dead it was really really bad. Why do people say it's good? Okay, so Someone we know likes it Um, well, I mean, you know, I'm sure they they they think that people hating on it arbitrarily would be dumb too. Um I will admit I don't like to say it too much But there are some films I watch where I I am kind of baffled by someone liking it Like I just sort of come away like what would have been the reason and army the dead is absolutely one of those films Yeah, where I watch it and I'm like I can't even Like if I were a kid nobody liked this like if it lost a gajillion dollars and It has a 4% on rotten tomatoes both audiences and critics. I'd wonder why it's that high some special kind of bad not not exaggerating And I I still haven't quite gotten over the fact that like to introduce the action They do something morally reprehensible. Like I just What a stupid way to begin your story And you know for anybody who's like, well that could work. It's like no no the show doesn't know or the film rather It's one of those situations It's pretty it's it's horrifyingly bad. It is In a meta way. It's like it's uncomfortable to watch physically Uh, yeah, I mean I I felt a little bit ill after watching it and I'm almost certain it was all of the blue It's a movie that made me had to go outside and take a walk It was big stinky. I Agree Uh ragu thoughts on kingdom shum King kingdom. Oh kingdom come deliverance. That's what they're trying to say I will you ever make a review of it? And what would I want to see in a sequel if they ever made one? I think they mean what would you want to see also? I like I played it for basically no time at all. Um, and I I I just I I don't know anything about All I remember was Remember we we did a four horseman piece of gaming one on that where Funhouse that was because a controversy was that are like, oh, there's we wanted to be very like Accurate to to it was bohemian, right? That was where it was said bohemian Yeah, it was yeah those idiots on fun house who can be funny, but Shut the fuck up. Well, because you're you're not bright because what what was it? James said because the guys because the argument from their health direction was oh No, I think it was worse than that because um, the whole point was oh, we're trying to be realistic And he's like, oh, yeah, try to be realistic while having the a-button to press jump like fuck off Oh god The best arguments terrible. It's a terrible point It's one of those arguments you hear and it's so mind numbingly devoid of any intellect you you don't know how to respond to it Yeah, it's like oh, I guess we should just not try and make any video games Any realistic at all because you have to interface with them through buttons. Yeah, what a great point It's so dumb and Like if they all agreed with it They're they're already really pushed back against it. Yeah, I just I can't believe that these are Like they're funny But that's it They're not insightful And they're not really interesting at all and they had they consistently have had Horrifically bad takes on games and stuff. We just just stick to making people laugh Just stick to what you're good at I kind of have more of a mixed opinion on them because I've enjoyed I do think that they're funny and that uh Some though admittedly fun house is like not even the same anymore It's totally changed like the majority of the people who were there aren't there anymore Yeah, by the way, what I what are the colors where at least the styler cut was like stick to Star Wars Impact I think Impact in fact, I think the only one who's left there of the originals is James like he's the only one left Because I think Bruce has gone and done his own thing Um, Lawrence has done his own thing Adam Cove it got in a lot of trouble. Uh, so he's not part of that anymore either What's with the background static, unfortunately, that's Django's jetpack sound I will admit that's not a good sound They had a limited budget. It's well, that's Wait, were you were you saying that to me? Huh? Who? I'm assuming you weren't saying that to me. I just said like Django's jetpack isn't got a good sound and I said Oh, I was just saying maybe they didn't have enough money to get a better one All this they didn't even make the sounds they've just taken them from the movies Oh, yeah, so why didn't they just also didn't have to be so loud? Yeah, you could just reduce it. There's a lot of ways to not just play static. I'm kind of joking. It's I don't know. They could have done better than that So wait, I don't even have to do episode four because I did it first time around Is army that we're watching for just about is no no, no, I would not recommend it So it is not I recommend Cruella before army of the dead. I don't know Yeah, I'd be so true Capital opinions is the only person that said it was worth watching for the funnies. We were all just like If he gets checked into a mental institution in the coming months, this might have been what caused it This is the this is the early signs of dementia Yes, I liked army of the dead I thought it was great. Oh, no grandpa. How bad it was Oh, no, you gotta put grandpa down in the home Kingdom Coom rags poops with the door open HD collection Nope I poop with the door closed Like a civilized Person slash Character slash oh ranks. This is interesting. So Everyone keeps saying the daughter in army of the dead got everyone killed. I've seen it three times And I'm just not getting it. She sort of contributes to a couple deaths, but everyone just gets killed. Am I tripping? Uh She shouldn't oh Everybody on the helicopter who died is her fault So we've already got that directly that is her fault like directly not even indirectly It's because of dave batista being like, oh, yeah, you can come Yeah, that's the fucking stupid Insanely dumb it makes absolutely no sense. It is grossly irresponsible and negligent Um, so her plant and she's there to save that woman and she just Arbitrarily fucking decides that it now is the time and she just leaves without telling anybody. Yes That's with everyone And it's dumb anyway that you can just Walk into a city like las vegas looking for just someone without knowing where they are In just looking and finding them when you know you have a very limited time until a nuclear bomb goes off And there are people who might come looking for you and as a result you're putting their lives in danger Yep, oh no, i'm perpetually falling as jar jar Oh no, look at his ears You're doomed It's okay. I turned into r2d2 and that fixes everything Why is there a thing to jump up there if I can't do anything cool with it? Um, yeah, she gets everyone killed is Probably you could call that hyperbolic, but like She costs everybody significantly and then she definitely does get a pretty fucking compelling argument for how she consider Yeah, like like I don't consider it inaccurate everyone would be essentially Most people would be alive. Well, here's the the The more you think about it the more the entire thing breaks down Especially when we get the revelation as to what tanaka really wants. Yeah, it breaks the story Like it's it's horrible nothing makes any sense David Hista's daughter says she's going regardless. So he's Let's her since he thinks he can keep her safe. Isn't that what the stupid plot? Yeah, but there's so many different things you can do to prevent that from happening Yeah, he's Dave fucking Batista and she's a skinny little twig of a lady and if he cares about her life Which allegedly he does then He would like if he had to handcuff her to a pole so she didn't go in to keep her alive He would do that That's what if that was my daughter and I cared about her life and I was convinced that if she came with me she'd die Then I would I'd be like no you're not coming. I'm handcuffing you to this pole You're not coming I will if I have to shoot you in the fucking leg so you don't come on this death mission with us I'm doing it. It's the lesser evil. I'm call. I'm telling all of the cops here That you told me you're gonna try and go through I'm gonna knock you out or make you and I'm gonna drag you kicking and screaming to a security booth Like I'm Dave mother fucking Batista You're going where I say you're going Just through sheer might and it's really annoying because they do the scene as though She's like not her conviction. She can't be stopped. It's like she can though She can because laws of physics exist For the entire that's the other thing Tanaka doesn't care to know the entire team don't seem to care They're just like yeah, bring her along. Fuck it. Yeah, sure. The more the merrier I swear to god, like we don't have a job. They're not humans because if I was on that team, I'd be like You kidding. We're not actually taking here I'm not looking after this girl while we're trying to keep each other alive. Like that's fucking ridiculous I would be concerned that she'd shoot me in the back by accident Yeah, oh and they have so much of that in the movie that when they sweep their guns past everybody all the time Yeah, it is it's painful. It is so painful My standards are very low for hollywood getting just any semblance of Guns right to any degree, but this is one of the most awful defense, you know, one of the most awful examples of that Like here because you're supposed to see we're supposed to be the crack team Goes in extracts the thing because this rich guy is going to pay a shit ton of money to get You know this thing and the things No You should not have people who don't know what they're doing in your group That's really dumb. It is dangerous and is counterproductive to the mission But that happens anyway I'm not saying it's not dumb, but when Batista realizes she's gone all those zombies are in the building Yeah, but they could have left Her going out means that they have to go and pick her up first and then Obviously, I don't even know where she went. Yeah, it's it's all fucking insane crazy, but um So this is the argument to be very clear. She runs off to save person When they come back pilot dies dad dies person dies So the person's forgot. Well, yeah, we don't even know she's dead So yeah, it's uh, you know If ever there was a more Wonderful example, I can't think of it of just a character who exists only so that a plot can happen that the director wants It's the chick to be rescued Once she has served her purpose in the plot. She just disappears I I need my cheat where I can shoot up But I've got no characters would be looking to shoot up I've been defeated the droidica is actually a detriment now I think it'd be Django, but he can't This is awful Uh, here's some money for entertaining me on my Fallout 4 campaign. Uh, it's not a good game, but it's a guilty pleasure I can see why people like Fallout 4 if there's lots of like about Fallout 4 Um, especially with mods mods can turn that into a are quite a game actually Definitely has a lot of shortcomings. Definitely is does not seem like it's taking the series forward in any way other than just basic gunplay that you'd expect and graphically but um And there's definitely stuff to like there's there's definitely stuff to like I couldn't really suspend in jaw jaw now If I can I managed to get Django to shoot the window, but only the top part so I still can't get in so This is this is hell This is hell We're gonna be here for a while probably Uh, yeah, if anything, it's the security guy's fault. Well security guy wasn't a character unfortunately Who's um, who's there for what they needed him for? The only reason he was there is for Zack Snyder to be like see being mean to women is bad Time to die Like there was there. We got no payoff for it the person who did that to him Heroic the team accepts the thing that she does. He doesn't go under any arc Your death is lame by the way. She gets distracted and that's why she's dead, but she sacrificed so she's good Yeah, she dies like a fucking idiot I remember like four it must have been Ah Twice at least twice I was like you need to keep your eyes on that guy. Why are you staring at the helicopter? It doesn't matter what they do you have to You have to be keeping your eyes on that guy You can hear the helicopter leaving you could also talk to them And sure enough she she stares away from the guy she needs to be watching and sure enough it gets her fucked over Yeah, then she just nuked so that's nice, but you know not entirely what I was looking for Or at least it's implied her death is off screen Yes Well, yeah, if you remember he must that guy kills it and then gets on his horse And rides to the building that they were heading to in the helicopter and gets there like before they do Yeah, he has to get down to the ground floor get on his horse because the animals listen to him because fuck it Zombie and rides to the play. Yeah, he beats the helicopter there and the helicopter has not only a head start but the advantage of being A helicopter Like I don't think I could reduce that stupidity down to a more basic form should be self evidently retarded Um, I had fun playing ds2. So it's a good game, right? and I want If that's the metric you want to use you go right ahead Um You're massive is replaying dying light while listening to you guys. Did any of you play it? Do you care about dying light too? I know I'm excited Oh, I know I got stuck in a room and I had to hit the thing for 30 minutes with my back because it wasn't strong enough That was not fun I had a bad experience with it With that game. I'm so sorry But I hear people liked it Well, that's good Well, did you see either invincible or the boys? Yes, I've definitely seen the boys If you're curious for my thoughts on the boys season two and with sprinkled in thoughts on the boys season one search for efap the boys And you'll probably find a whole stream of our boys season two not going to tell you if we liked it or not That can be a surprise But uh, we've not seen invincible now We had all of the things about it though, so we on five mini kits out of 10. Oh Um in army of the dead they hire a locksmith to break into their own safe and the company guy kills the other people for no reason This movie is bad everyone in it This movie is bad everyone in it. Oh, sorry everyone it is. Okay Yeah, the None of it makes sense. Like I I know we say that a lot because ha ha don't make sense in this movie But like really nothing makes sense in this movie It's like it's like a 14 year old wrote the script. It's like a 10 year old wrote the script. None of this shit makes any sense Yeah, it's like every step of the plan. It's like so we want the head Like why and you find out the reason and it's terrible. Like okay. Anyway, you want the head fine We're gonna tell them we want money Why don't just tell them you want the head Okay fine. Yeah, okay fine. That's just what you're doing fine. We're not gonna tell them what the safe crack number is That was that was so fucking dumb our brains didn't I think I was the first one to mention it What's the film that ended you'd mentioned it I think it was as he was cracking the safe like kind of doing it or at least oh, yeah, yeah I was like, wait a second. Why didn't they just give him the combination of the safe? And we were all like, oh, yeah, that's so like We were sort of in shock at this point Like I it's weird. It took us that long to think about that, but There were so many that we were always talking about how it just slipped under the radar that obvious observation that just seems dumb I don't even know what you can't even really make a reason, can you because it wouldn't make any sense. It never would Yeah modern storytelling everyone in Oh wait, uh, oh, yeah And that guy surviving a nuke was fucking insane He would be killed by radiation once he left the vault although in reality the radiation would enter the vault Yeah, yeah Yeah, but we have to have it's got to be a nuke because because Can't just be a big ass bomb It can't be a mother of all bombs or something It's just going to turn everything into a parking lot. It's just going to level everything It's going to de-atomize everything on the surface or It's cool though rags Why must you hate Or they could have just had a throwaway line. They could because they never specify. I don't think at least I don't think they do They never specify how deep down they go Underneath the surface so If they were gonna someone could mention it like whenever the timer gets changed to 90 minutes or whatever Just randomly because so because we need more attention Someone could say could we you know if we don't make it Can we take shelter in the vault and they're like, I don't I don't know probably not I just I I don't I don't know it's it's too risky So that it sort of gives the idea that maybe it's Possible Well too bad Fixing this is an entire redraft from the beginning. It can't be fixed The only thing that you could salvage from this is the concept Well, maybe if the safe was made out of refrigerators True Is um let's just say I'm a bit of a Film aficionado and I I've seen the in diana jones show film And he did it and that was even earlier than this was set. So I think I would good the fridges have gotten now super nukeproof A safe is like a weird fridge really. Yeah Uh, Zach will probably forget he's martian manhunter like he forgot that his superman is affected by earth's atmosphere Dude, the amount of people arguing with us about that when the film doesn't even know what it's doing It's like, is it the sun? Is it the atmospherics? What is it? And it's like It's something Perhaps it's better if you don't ask Which is the sign of a great movie, by the way Excellent Rex do me a favor and tell model that he Smaller you Oh Well, thanks for letting me know I'm watching a this is a big old tangent I've been watching a bunch of videos on like airplanes over the last couple of days Um, we're just watching a video about how there were these pilots who got boarded in their plane And then they flew 150 miles past the airport Okay, um And so people were like, oh Fuck like shit. This could be really bad naturally When a plane doesn't land and just keeps going and they try to contact Yeah Oh, what's what if they've been hijacked? That's like that. Yeah Because they weren't responding to the uh to the to the messages from air traffic troll either and then when they finally got back they're like, uh, yeah, we uh We we float past we Uh, we of course permission to turn around and then people were like, um, so like what happens like what what the fuck happened What'd they say? Let me see if I could find them. Let's see. That's the jobs have done, right? Oh, they they yeah, they permanently lost the right to fly basically. Um Yeah, they said cockpit distractions. That's all I could say. It's like, um, can you elaborate on the distraction? To which he said we're dealing with company issues here and that's all I could tell you right now So, yeah, I think you knew we fucked up. It's like, oh, I'm done And they are the best thing you could do is blame some instrument failure and just say I don't know what to say It just wasn't working Well, the problem is they'd figure that out because then they'd investigate might yeah The instruments are working fine. So you lied that which might actually be worse It probably is better to just like say, ah, shit. You got me. I was bored. I fell asleep I was like, if you were trying to save it, I mean, I yeah, I don't know what you could do. Um, I don't think you can save it It's it's a big mistake. Um, yeah, I don't know what you do It's like If there was a way to do it, they would know it Well, yeah, but uh, I mean they'll basically they didn't because they lost their job Now they and they're also banned from flying. So Like they can't fly or This was this was some years ago. By the way, this wasn't recent But that they can't fly. No, they've lost their pilot's licenses permanently But as a passenger though, but as a passenger. Oh, yeah, sure. They could fly as a passenger But like they can't fly planes. That's that's for sure Can they fly kites? Uh, I don't know if you could fly kites I don't think you need a license for him. So at least not yet Yeah, but if you make a mistake like that, they might just put a restriction on you. No kite flying too dangerous You can't handle. Yeah, don't want you killing some children with your kite Do you agree that a well-crafted video game world should exist in spite of you rather than for you Places should exist because it makes sense in game That's not in spite of you that that's that's neutral to that. Yeah, it's it's neutral Yeah, it's it's not about in spite or in service of you and Maybe they're trying to say like What they mean is like it places are any crafted with you going through them in mind Or you reacting to them in mind So you can do that but hide it And make sense of it, but if it's too obvious sometimes players will notice It depends on and and if you're not trying to be immersive at all If you're just trying if you're being because sometimes when you when people make a game It's so obviously about the gameplay and the world is just dressing for some just base level of Some just a base level of immersion that you can get away with it um but Yeah, if you're trying to create what's a believable world then A lot of players would be like, oh, this is only here because i'm the player And this is just here to service me as the player not my character you know If person a resorts to calling person b manchild when debating something is it safe to say person a has lost the argument? Well, no categorically no like yeah people can people can be man children Like it sounds like you had Um the answer in your head when you wrote the question Do you feel that people have lost the argument when they use an insult and if you do that's that's for you, I guess And you're saying something that has nothing to do with the information and the discussion determines Like yeah, it's I guess it depends on how you would say wins or loses the debate If we push it to an extreme right and they are still kind of making an argument But it's like Filled with insults like every single sentence begins like you know has and then ends with one And they're all like harshly sad and swear wordy and just They're all you can almost hear them spitting through the microphone. I would just be like The argument might not be lost, but uh the conversation is over If we're going strictly by Their argument is literally just whatever points they've made and whether or not they're uh consistent and valid with The references and the way they're constructed it versus They're being an asshole Because it's the thing depending on who you're talking to some people who totally chill with insults being tossed in And some other people like won't accept even one But um, I could see myself being in a conversation where someone called me man child and carrying on It worked for lady d when she said man thing I mean we ended up killing her so If you say that it worked It's a good thing we picked up that dagger and she appeared right behind us in the staff room It was so funny because I think it might be am I recording but I just I don't even know what that dagger is I was like, oh Hello, I guess we need this that it's like try stab it. It was like, yeah, I guess so Uh two k views making bank on superchats versus 250 k views are making a pittance on ads I wonder which is better plus you and rags made vids with millions of views. I think this is about um twin perfect When he said um I think he compared the live view count to his videos view count For some reason Yeah, I think it was a matter of being like nobody cares what those guys have to say and it's just like Doesn't make your video any better Batman I bet your parents told you that you mean something also batman you have a mother Yeah, it doesn't really line up does it That's the thing there is a way to make that scene. It wasn't what's acted Uh, not that the views even matter also play ddlc Nothing about it. The bird layer kept doomsday from ascending into space The bird layer The bird layer a layer of a layer of birds that surrounds the earth must be a bird layer It's part of the atmosphere Um, why is there no flashy flashy? I feel like there must be more that I'm missing In this area, I mean Um, sorry to keep coming back here guys, but this movie hits my brain. I meant to knock his security guy He locks them in the building for reasons. Oh, yeah, I don't know why he did that. Um Yeah, I don't think about survival. You're gonna need them to get you out of there Um, so them being like I could totally you can craft a scenario where he does it like, um, you know I can't believe I'm doing this. It's not good. Okay, but When shane shoots otis in walking dead that idea not the execution because it was really dumb But the idea of trying to drop a body for zombies to get distracted by so you can get out Like that's something But uh, the scenario did not call for that. They all had guns. They could all get up there with him and get out It made no sense And now like she can't be trusted. She can on a whim just like apparently She's the only one who gets to make that decision and she'll just do it without saying anything or mentioning anything And anyone you could be next Dropping someone for zombies Oh, no, I'm we're talking about, um guy was eaten by the tiger So Like I I understand that it's a movie trope that he has to betray them But it would have been nice if they made it make sense why he betrays them. He just randomly does it That's yeah, there's so many reasons why what he does doesn't help him Yeah, this is the thing like he has motivations to he has reasons to do what he's doing And so you can't just have him be evil. That's not how it works Yeah, he wants to make money But it's going to be hard to make money when you're dead Which you will be when you betray them and have to walk away from a nuclear explosion and like They're getting the money so Oh God it's so so stupid. It's like what changes like you either they all get out with you And they have the money they stole and they can keep it because that was the deal whatever you got what you want It's fine. In fact, they could work for you again sometime Get the money and the head Exactly Instead I will prevent the money from being stolen kill all of them and then reduce my chances of getting out of here Significantly it's like why Yeah, also if Tanaka wants them to get ahead and come back Why would he send them into the because they're that like the the things the the the vault is booby trapped Like what if they died doing the thing you wanted them to do? Oh, that was so dumb I'm starting to think that seems only that a delay Do you remember when they tooled with the idea that they stuck in hell Huh, you know when they they played with the idea that they're stuck in hell and they're repeating the events over and over again Yeah, what the heck? I don't know why they did that Something they decided to did anything ever come of the body that was that had like the key on it and everything Well, that's what I'm talking about. That's that's it. The idea is the all three of the corpses matched up with people we know And so it was like what And then he says He just starts fucking rambling about How they they could have been here before and that they're doing it again It's so fucking random. So are the bodies really there? Purgatory I can't remember if he said purgatory or hell, but um, I don't know It's just it's just some of those people to make video essays about I just don't Yeah, they drop it because if I saw a body on the floor That was like old and decayed and it was Me I'd be like So what the actual fuck Oh, and that's another thing. What is this even if it wasn't questioning reality Even if it wasn't detectably you like they don't do anything about that Like so first thought is like, oh shit as Tanaka had another team come down here before And if so like what does that mean for us? They just flat out fail and we have to succeed or did he betray him? But yeah, like this doesn't make any sense. It's pause for thought at the very least but no, they just go Uh, I guess they try to cut it open and failed because like oh So why are they dead out here? How did they die if they got killed by zombies? Wouldn't they be zombies? I guess they starved in there I guess they starved They just either they zombie starved and they need some rain or they human starved and they didn't turn into zombies Which is weird because Vegas is gonna be full of food Yeah, yeah, but what if they locked themselves in there? What are they gonna do then? But they didn't though the elevator worked and everything. Well, did the power go out? How do they have the power to get down? Oh, I don't even want to think about it. I just It's a film the tests the limits of what films are One of those ones Senses it's just it it exists in spite of a concept of concepts And it could have been great. This is just simple premise. Yeah, could have been cool I worry that we'll never get that idea for Maybe again, or it'll be so long until we get that idea explored because this one was so bad You just need someone else who wants to create some shit to say hey, you know what I wouldn't mind making a really awesome movie with this kind of Neat little premise and then we finally get a good one Instead of studios continuously indulging this man clown like I just don't get it Uh, honestly, how did Diabeto outlast Lindsay Alice? I mean, she's still on twitter, right? Whenever I think so, yeah, yeah, whenever The here and here folk leave they usually come back Diabeto on the other hand like we've seen what he can say and get away with it's kind of insane. So I wouldn't expect him to go anywhere for a long time So army of the dead is the dumb version of ttb peninsula I don't know what that is. I think that's one of the movies like that That's a korean zombie movie that came out like last year or something. Um, I heard it was neat But I don't know it's no it's the shittiest version of aliens possible. Yeah He definitely liked aliens when he saw it. I don't think he understood why though Ah, the scenes where they shoot people and stuff so awesome If any of you seen John Carpenter's ghosts of mars, that's what army of the dead reminded me of No No, I haven't no So did Tanaka want the team killed because he didn't want anyone else to know about the zombie head They were taking like was it a big secret? They never give reason for it. Oh, yeah, that's a way smarter decision But I feel like that would just raise more suspicion. Well, I Killing them at all is a bad idea. Yeah Um, well killing them at all is a bad idea because you don't want anyone knowing about any of this And so if they've all agreed to keep it a secret and then you can get them paid like that's just everything's great Everything's dandy you kill them Anybody who knows them will now be a liability anybody who was told. Yeah, you have no idea who they've told Um, which is another problem. What they're doing to a stable the team who knows about it Do it Like just deny it. They didn't want the money They wanted the head and the team didn't need to know and yet they kill Or they try to kill all of them and Like it's just the whole thing was there for you Tanaka. You didn't have to do all the stupid shit Everything was gonna work Baffling leaping, you know Because now I'm curious like Because you know how they don't go through that great for no reason if they did Like I'm trying to think of how the film plays out because a whole bunch of them die in the casino part, don't they? or one of them at least um And then so what would have happened is they go up the great with guy They kill the tiger presumably if they're not retarded and then So they just go to the roof Yeah, and then they're done. I guess he fucked over like everything when he did that Yeah, um Tanaka's a weird one He doesn't even like get any come up and so I'm assuming he'll come back at some point. Yeah The next movie army of the mexico dead Be great And then at some point someone will make one of them that's not zack snider And then someone will be like, oh, I'm not gonna watch an army of the dead property unless it's by the original creator I'll be like, you're right. It's gonna maintain its integrity. It's one of the good ones Uh, why even bring in doomsday so early if they wanted lex to make something that can fight superman then why not have him make metallo Uh, name recognition, I guess people know doomsday better And get fans excited I don't know why they keep getting I guess I do but you know Well, he would actually get more powerful if you throw him into the sun since he's kryptonian He then might get the power of flight from that hate this movie, but it's possible to fans throwing Doomsday into the sun I mean the the backup to that is just throwing him into space You don't have to throw him into the sun if you have that issue But I don't know that there's any reason to assume he would survive being thrown into the sun Kryptonians are special, but they're not stronger than a son from what I understand Do we know that is there ever been a time where Superman was thrown into the sun? Probably in the comics, but I'm thinking about it. The comics would probably have him survive that wouldn't they? I'm sure they'd well. Yeah, because if it's happened, he's still alive. I guess. Yeah, probably Um, well regardless, you'd still could just toss him into like throwing him onto maz. You could just do that Yeah, what's he gonna do? You'll have to wait Yeah, just throw him into space. He'll never come back. That would be the best plan. I think yeah He went into one to recharge he gets super powerful and Jesus Well, like I said, if that was a red stone, I guess that would fuck him up, right? I don't know. Well, I Going into the sun No, because that means he can withstand like a billion degrees. Yeah, this is the thing We've got people in chat. We're gonna be like he does it though. And you're like, yeah, I know He wouldn't survive going into the sun. Someone just said he's in the sun for a million years and meditates then becomes Nuclear bad I don't even want to start with this. Look Silly That's all I've got to say And if you're worried about doomsday charging up from the sun that you just got to toss him somewhere else, you'll be fine You imagine like doomsday lands on the sun and he just like powers up completely and then fires himself back to earth like as a missile Joe long it would take him to get back here Well, he'd miss he'd miss. Yeah Like the the in kind of if you can't make any adjustments along the way The amount of precision is Like it's not possible Yeah, so don't worry about it guys. That'd be fine Oh, dude the ultimate counter r2 d2 can knock out droid because of one hit Oh boy He hacks them with his hacking powers Fuck both of you. I'm gonna do it R2 the legend A movement as a droid occurs actually really fucking annoying You could believe that Like because the game can't decide between Walking or rolling because they're the same control just slightly different pushes, but really slight And rolling cancels out your ability to shoot. So it's really fucking annoying Crappy vision of aliens is called a quiet place too. Oh, no Oh We're not gonna get to that for ages by the way We got so much shit to do I've I've heard it's mixed right now In terms of public response, which means it's probably awful. That's not good because people love the first one. Yeah But um, that's only a small bubble for all I know. It's actually beloved But still awful. I don't know Joss Whedon army of the dead when I mean it would have been better. There would be characters at least. Yeah It'd be dialogue. It'd be like dialogue. That's interesting And fun and there would be setups and payoffs It might even be straight up variation along the way, but I'd enjoy watching it And I'd hope that the characters make it out. All right Yeah They wouldn't all be stupid and villainous Uh, did you guys cover how dumb it was the soldiers transporting alpha zombie Weren't given instructions on what to do if their cargo was compromised Yes It is worse though Because he doesn't even know remember he has to be reminded on his walkie-talkie that they have a payload. He's like, oh, yeah Yeah, that's right. Our whole point of existing in this mission is to do a thing Fucking excellent um, that whole opening scene I think Like told us what kind of film we're in for because we had so many problems immediately Oh, this is a fun thing for you chat When we all watched it There's a part where a bunch of soldiers are shooting the first zombie In in the distance you can just see them all shooting and they're all getting killed And from that we all inferred that the alpha boss zombie is going to be tough to be like involved with like He's going to be a boss fight for dave batista, but you can't shoot him to kill him You're gonna have to do something else like environmental Yeah, we assumed these be bulletproof or something. I mean you say we assume it's like we know he's bulletproof because Yeah, like I would I would say that I like I would bet money Like of course it's bulletproof. He's in a road like a road a paved road. There is no cover It is wide open and like six soldiers unload onto it with m4s And so you're like, oh the only explanation for why it's alive and killing them is that it's impervious to bullets Of course like that that's clearly what the film is trying to establish here It's trying to establish like stakes and power levels And basically like no, they all missed throughout the recording you'll you'll hear me just thinking about it I keep like when I was like because when he puts his helmet on it's like but you're bulletproof, but Okay, well fine Yeah, because turns out a single pistol shot will kill it All of those army guys just suck at aiming If one of them If one of them could have aimed it was never a threat Yeah, exactly. That's the thing if if what imagine an army guy Being able to hit a target right in front of it at a close distance without any cover or concealment Don't even lock it up. Just have it have like a thing wrapped around its neck that would explode with a Yeah Or just booby trap the fucking box with those damn gun things It was uh questioned like how did they get him in there in the first place and whatever you use to get him in there Use that again Like assuming it was also if the can the container door just pops open It falls off the truck Yeah, it just opens up. It's like excuse me like why? I wouldn't I would I'm no like I'm no Specialist, but I think that's a design flaw. Yeah Yeah, I'd say so Sorry a super chat about complaints again, but was the super zombie impervious to bullets unless the Wow the fucking odds Unless the soldiers We have incredible incredible predictive. Yeah, um, unless the soldier's missed in the beginning He gets killed by a handgun. Did he lose the ability somehow? What the fuck? He's like, yeah We were as confused as you were I told you this none of this movie makes sense That's just a funny like little lesson in terms of How do you like show don't tell but The demon version where you don't like you're showing us stuff. That's not true At least as far as you're concerned Like you see this creature is not being killed by these men with Rifles therefore it is immune and his acts like no, he's really fast By fast, I mean like Human speed. Yeah, really fast. Yeah, he sort of just like squats down a little bit I Um, I think they just want us to believe that he dodged it all and it's like, oh, but I dodged all of those Yeah, all those bullets, but I don't believe you humans And crouching You're gonna have to work harder than that. I know this doesn't ever occur to your child mind But you're gonna have to work a little harder to convince me of that You just say you got already caught or he's like what does it work? What? That doesn't make sense. Why are you being so mean? That can't be true though. I don't know what you're saying. It's all very weird Castlevania season three ending was a massive Massive fluster cluck. It's not bad, but it isn't good and I still recommend it I froggy and rugs Hi, I've watched the first two seasons, but I don't remember much about it I think it's ended now before season came out and from what I hear It's got mixed opinion. Some people love it. Some people hate it Oh If I watch anything that it's like anime or anime adjacent I think I just want to see the loop in the third movie because the animation looks wonderful and that's kind of it Loop in the first I think last year or the year before that they made a CGI or a computer animated movie for loop in the third And I kind of want to see it I like I think the animation looks wonderful in it. It looks very fun So I think I would just for the spectacle. I think I'd like to see that Just read the plot synopsis for army of the dead and even that doesn't make any sense Was the queen dead and then got pregnant or did it happen after she died? Well, she was pregnant before she died and then he pulled the fetus out because we needed that We needed to see that but that goes nowhere by the way Well, it's why he's angry rags, you see It's another it's another aborted idea. Oh It's another idea that died early. You trying to say it represents the film because I would agree Bless you but the cost I was written by americans So even what have we been bitching about the most during this? How do I get to that mini kid? This is better by the way. I know where it is So, okay I've seen clips of castlevania and I've liked some of the voice acting but the voice acting's great. Yeah, like I don't If you rewatch it, I will rewatch it with you. I'll say that Uh, well, it's really short. The first season is four episodes long. It's incredibly. Oh, wow, that is short That's shorter than the sniper It gets yeah, it is Yay 10 out of 10 Um, but yes, it's not me the dead makes no fucking sense. Hi rags and long man. Hello. Hey I'm writing a comic, but I'm not sure if it's any good or not. I want to do well So I need help. Would you like to check it out? I do not have the time to spare. I'm afraid I I feel like this needs to be pivoted into you can't just ask people to do that for you Why don't you why don't you tell us what's wrong with your comic? And Well, the the simple fact we but we go over every once in a while. I don't I think it's perfectly normal for someone to ask Um, so we can't Do it for everybody nor could we set a precedent where we do it via people paying for it Because this is a little weird and then of course we can't get to everybody So then we have to start choosing and what happens is eventually you make a system for it And then it just takes away from time feels unfair So ultimately we'll cut straight to the end point of we wish you the best of luck You could ask like, you know individual questions about different things through super chat and stuff But we definitely don't review content from other people through Super chat requests because it's gonna turn into a nightmare for sure I feel I feel like that is absolutely something that you that unless it's like your friends that it would be Unreasonable to expect people to do it for free I mean there are some creators who do it. I think Um, the whole different systems, right? Well, this is the thing if someone was like $50 here on patreon, I'll review a story you write. I'm like, oh, man I don't know I don't know Yeah, I don't know about that at all. Um That's not a reference to anybody. I made that up. I have no idea if someone's doing it Because for all I know I just stood on like seven toes Also doth more mission and I've got like no mini kits Yeah, obviously good luck with uh with whatever it is you're up to absolutely, absolutely Think about like imagine we were in the room with you and you had to explain to us what was wrong with your comic Yeah, also, you know, give it give it a go with your friends See what they think I assume you have those you can purchase them A Coyote lady didn't want to antagonize the alphas, but she was okay with security dude incapacity Incapacity and queen alpha to get her blood. Yeah, that's another thing. I didn't understand at all that scene That whole scene is so weird the queen comes after them. First of all, it's like why Why does she do that and then of course they retaliate But there's no attempt to not kill her When surely that would be a disaster like if you kill this The queen of the zombies you're probably gonna piss everyone off but Wouldn't they hate you by default? well, so Again, the offering's been done. So it makes some like the whatever sense that makes that makes, uh So why would she be okay with just killing the queen alpha suddenly if if the entire goal was to have the the quote-unquote peace But the other weird part is that she takes forever to help Like she's in the scene and we're all just like, where are you? Where are you? And then she finally shoots the zombie and it's like, oh Thanks, I guess Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, he's Yeah, I feel like if there's two of them and you shoot one of your string grenade thingies and it wraps them up and it Castates them and then there's another Maybe you should be putting that other grenade in your thing too Yeah, I mean dude the um it seems that those like wrappy aroundy-grappily things like they're more effective than fucking bullets Yeah, in terms of these zombies, it's certainly the alphas People leave that by the way He does that and that's all any of the army people had to deal with in the beginning to have stopped all of this Yeah, yeah I'm like, oh, okay And why did that happen anyway, cuz two cars crashed into each other on the board and neither of them looking at each other And this huge light hits both sides and neither of them notices like Yeah, and it explodes the things as well Oh, and and that was the other thing as well like the idea of the two guys talking Speculating on what they could be carrying it's so secret, but zack right in the dialogue. It's like no Yeah, you know it could be uh, well idea could be a fun idea, but Could could be one of them Turned up later if you wanted to set up our protagonist where he was in that original thing and he escaped Yeah, and he felt guilty he felt bad about it. And so part of the reason why he takes this job is to try and Make things right like yeah, it's like you should have stopped I should have just shot that zombie in the road, but I just couldn't I don't know how but I'm gonna make this right somehow But that's just us talking off the top of our heads about an idea that's better than Zach's yeah, we didn't get years and 90 million dollars Yeah, we got 30 seconds and we're doing this for not that much This is the thing right like The line they have in the movie. So let's just say for example, they're coming from area 51. Let's just say that's the case Um, how do we get that across in dialogue without saying it and then zack's like I've got it You go, oh, what is it zack? And he goes they're gonna say maybe it could be an alien thing in there You know considering, you know, we're with you know coming from you know That's really that's good, right? That's subtle You just look at him like maybe you could redraft that I don't know And they would just be like put them in biohazard suits You know, you don't have to be they don't have to have the helmet on but they can have that stuff nearby So you could infer That there was something biological In there by their get-up. They have the hasop stuff the biohazard kit um You could have some symbols written on the the container that it's in um the container could It's just you could do a lot. I've already done. I've already said enough I just don't like it. Like I said, it's super fundamental for me You have a bunch of characters are thrown into a situation. It's gonna be tough to get them out of this Like, oh, that's like the easiest. It's like hateful eight or um reservoir dogs I know there's both 20-30 but just films we like you get the cast of characters is really what's gonna be the super interesting part of this Yeah, it's a really basic but good way to sort of Do a story It's fun, but he didn't make it fun. He made it painful Fun not allowed in the snider movies. It's no such thing. It's fun And what he thinks is fun is just Yeah Let's say hypothetically superman gets thrown into the sun and lives but doomsday can tear him up Doesn't that logically make doomsday at least as if not more durable than superman and vice versa? I don't know it depends on what the difference between resilience and the ability to inflict damage Yeah And for some reason doomsday can more easily survive a nuke than superman can. I don't know why I guess he's just stronger than superman Yes You do kind of wonder right like if superman could survive the sun There's a nuke really gonna do a lot to him. I know it's not the same kind of energy, but still It's really hot. Yeah, I feel like the sun is a bit stronger than they knew for your boss I mean it is like i'm not even sure it's a debate. It is Not even a debate Yeah, a little bit more kind of a little bit more Superman couldn't survive the nuke Yeah, I think the answer that's gonna be well, let's suit the sun, power them up. I'm like, yeah Okay, why don't nukes power them up? That's not the same that's like saying that's like saying I can eat an infinite amount of zucchini because food gives me power Yeah, exactly Well, he's not a real thing. So you wrong rags get over it. You can go to the sun become nuclear man You're just jealous. You wish you could be nuclear man The og army of the dead script had zombie grapes subtract Subtacked the g All right, of course. Um, yeah. Yeah, I heard about that. I can't imagine why they'd want him to remove that He's a fucking weird guy. I'm gonna say it Maybe he got that from atlas shrunks The zombie rape scene in atlas, right? Oh This is what I mean, man Like say you've never even watched a zaks nighter movie, but you're a producer you want some money and um You you want him to obviously make something Just gonna make you money and you bring him on. He's and you're like, what's what's your idea? And it's like a zombie movie. Yeah, sweet. You made that other one He's like, yes, but this one will be written by me. Like, okay. All right. Yeah, sounds good Okay, so um, yeah, you're writing something great. All right, fair enough pitch away. He's like, all right, so Zombie rape Anybody unfamiliar Have we already signed the contract? Yeah, he's an auteur. He's zaks nighter. It'll be great and amazing You just don't get it. It's too lofty and I just don't get it. Yeah, I do love that. It's so lofty It's like this is so basic It's like this is just This is just the shitty director version of he works in mysterious ways A little bit, yeah Can't find myself disagreeing with that one Just finished watching invincible I gave it a seven out of ten the story is structurally good, but it has some logical issues. I think it's a bit overrated Well, well Probably worse than that It's funny. There's been like significantly more reviews in our superchats of invincible than we will likely ever have on hand Yeah Um, I saw this with my wife when she saw the king and queen being intimate She pulled a face and said these zombies fucking Yeah Yeah, you know I feel like that's the it was what was missing about zombie stories Yeah, I I always thought that what really kept a zombie movie from Eclipsing Mediocrity and becoming great was there weren't enough zombies sex scenes. Mm-hmm The rounds of these kind of need to see it nice How a hero came through I know he's supposed to hate jerk man, but showing a tiger torturing him for two minutes was weird and felt like an insert of a guy The writer hates iRL Yes, that's the sax titer's 14 year old brain's idea of justice Um, yeah, I'd be it would be one of those things like it's borderline torture porn Yeah, so I think it'd be cool to see him watching people react to the movie in that scene and you know At first he gets the thing he wants whichever one goes. Oh, yeah, fuck you. Yeah but then when you hit the 15 minute mark you're like, all right All right, we're this is a little gratuitous at this point Yeah, you know suck a punch that that's one of my most misunderstood movies Just probably said that I mean the funny thing is the more you watch of his content the more his content Lines up with everything else. You're like, oh, I get it. Oh, yep. Now it makes yep. This is all this is Zach I think his logic is that that movie because people watching like, oh, this is like you just like Pod ships fighting things right that's like this movie And he's like, that's not what it was about Fuck man, you really didn't communicate that well It's like that's all anybody got from it Like they're hot. You see it's actually it's about how that's bad. It's like, oh It's that right Well, we all in something Yeah, you learn something new every day I feel like I feel like I like after watching that movie I came out of the day With less knowledge than I had entered into it. Like somehow it sucked away Information from my brain like army of the dead or the other army the dead yeah I get damaged to me It certainly wants to convince you of facts that aren't true And like the will the way the world works replacing your current knowledge with Wrongness and you're like with the incorrect knowledge. Yeah. It's like a lot of movies and stuff have been doing that lately No, you see it's okay to trap this woman in an identity which is fictional Because she was kind of she wanted to suck up your juice Well the juice that you used to imprison a town full of people Because you couldn't move on But she was grieving Oh, yeah, I like how that's good to even need anything She's grieving. It's like a lot of people grieve a lot of things all there's a lot of ways to grieve that's like don't evolve That Is slaving an entire town and you're so desperate Who are so who having such an awful time that they'd rather die and continue to live in your fantasy dreamscape Yeah, that must have been awkward for her to find out, huh Well, well, you know look all right. She was going through a lot. That's why she needed to run away She has to try to do an interview to defend it Because of course you have to It's like the actress who plays carly having to defend uh, you know like oh see she her cause was just it's like Do you actually think that one? So please don't think that that's bad. She's like I've got a pro movie. You're like, right, okay Well, that's the problem is I can't yeah, you can't Say that it's it that the fundamental point of the movie is wrong. Can't do that You should just play it off. Say, oh, I'm no I'm no writer. I'm just an actor. I'm no writer. Yeah I'll leave all that to the I'll leave all that stuff to the the great writers at disney Would you be funny if there was self aware to a degree? They're like all the writers do an incredible job and I love the character work And you're like, could you be specific? What is it about that you like and they just smile? That's real funny that you'd yeah move on Like okay I just wanted to know what you thought was good Uh-oh, did I miss a minikit? I very well may have may haps of Uh, molla has the island man flag and rags has ocean man. What shall be the thing to almost kill fringy? Perhaps it's not been revealed just yet Yeah, could be one of the songs from uh, cruella or army of the dead Pick your favorite. Yeah, pick your favorite fringy I don't know Oh, no, this one says message retracted Apparently they did not want the message to be seen whatever was it must have been scandalous my glitz Uh, oh no, not a dc noid. Also do nukes cause emps I think so from what I understand. That's a yes I think so modern warfare 2 told me that They they trigger an effect called an electric or a magnetic pulse or emp Uh, let's see. It's the initial nuclear radiation from the explosion specifically the gamma radiation High energy electrons are produced in the environment of the explosion when gamma rays collide with air molecules A process called the compton effect So Yeah It seems it seems that they will I'll be so cool if I could disable the Brodicas of rtd2 or r4 in this case and then just nudge them off the platforms. They're off to the deaths It's it's such an arty way to kill someone So apparently it causes uh, the the emp Isn't the weapon itself. It's generated by the weapon's effect on the earth's ionosphere It produced such as a huge amount of heat that it pulls Like the it moves the ionosphere and fucks around with electromagnetic like electric and magnetic fields and that Screws around with electronics because it does some shifting of the atmosphere layers Interesting Darth Maul you're pussy Oh I think maybe you can catch up to him before you can get through them and Oh, I think I could I remember doing on like psp or something. You can kind of like screw with this I couldn't I do it today though Aha, there it is How to figure out how to get to it Boop boop Why would Lex's goons be there? He told nobody about dunes day They would run for their lives plus batman killed them all anyway in the warehouse I assume this is about how Lex's goons could have released doomsday regardless or something Muller have you watched mr. Robot the first you The first season is rubbish, but I think it really improves as it goes also high rags Hello Um, I've tried to watch mr. Robot I didn't enjoy the first two episodes enough that I was kind of put off but I've heard it's pretty great Um for you've seen like a lot of it, right? Uh, I've seen up to season three. I remember really enjoying it It's been a while and I think season I think I watched part of season four and then I stopped which is the last season So there's really great episodes. I know that much, but yeah, the fact that I stopped watching it probably isn't a good sign Like fringy, are the ones you're supposed to carry on watching? Yeah, I should finish it It's been a while. So I might need to rewatch it right from the start Cool cinematography cool music good acting um I don't that much Almost people tend to live in abandoned places too. Good job Batman. Oh, he knew he scanned it all He scanned it and the scanner said it's abandoned. All right. Yeah There's a robot said it. So it's definitely true Um, just got done watching 12 angry men for like the 100th time unbridled praise when Could happen at some point that movie's so good. Yeah I love it. I feel like that's just that's base great story. It's it's simple than god damn Which movie 12 angry men Good Oh Basic in the sense that it's it's basically a bottle episode but a movie Um, which is really good for like, you know being like This is you know, this is all you need to uh To do it to make it work Great characters The ending or super effective and it's A little picture of him and his son. It's just like it's a great little, um Think piece as well for anybody Oh in terms of yeah, just the night. I I just Dothmore grabs you and you have to switch characters to defeat him. Jar Jar just ran away from me. So I couldn't switch to him You're a little coward getting me killed unacceptable I was just gonna say that yeah, it's a good in terms of exploring the idea of like prejudice and bias and The things that you're looking for and not looking for You Are just that the scene where the old man he's he didn't change his vote. I did You know and it's like the boy is probably guilty, but uh, you know, I think we should explore it more It's like yeah, it's basically all that uh our protag was asking was can we please talk about it? And oh man the the guy with the glasses. It's such a great one as well because He's he's not coming in with biases. He just he's like he's trying to do it as you know as as uh methodically as possible and as objectively as possible and um Yeah, just the eye the glasses. There was like that was the thing that changed at all Of course you have raised this as well Alrighty fully completed episode one. I deserve an achievement for that on my xbox 360 Uh Superman used kryptonite spear because superman had his chance Yeah, he definitely died, but he definitely came back to Uh, if they really wanted to stop doomsday, they should have told him clock's mum was named martha yeah Maybe maybe doomsday's mom was martha like the doomsday's about to stab superman With his claw thing and then superman says save martha and doomsday says why'd you say that name? It would have been great Why did you say that? He can't speak English. It's just Superman's like It's my mom Movie you forgot my super chat on 119 And remember 119 that was like half a year ago. Definitely Definitely catching up now. The train is running. What are yours and rags if you finished it thoughts on hotline miami one and two story and characters I love hotline miami one never got to play two because it was not rated in australia. So it's not available on steam Uh, I played a lot of one. I don't think I paid much attention to the story. I just like the mechanics So I got I got nothing to say about it Yeah, I don't know how much I have to say about the story. I thought it was a really that soundtrack is banger Yeah When I was watching the zombie abortion scene my mom's With my mom, she said it's interesting because you've never seen something like that before in a zombie movie. I was like, yeah Now I know why Yeah, there's reasons why people haven't tried that before Good reasons No more of the superman can't say it lowest just to read it off-screen and say it True she has to put her arm on Doomsday and be like it's it's mom's name How could the zombies not get out of the crate wall lull? Don't even nothing makes any sense pick any element And it's kind of like because we we kind of just got done saying that about winter soldier This hard to make movies that make any sense Come on zack you can do it just one I'd say I believe in you but Well God, don't Uh, but yeah, what was it? I would say I believe in you, but then that would be lying Did you say you'd uh not played hotline man. I wanted to rags. No, I haven't I've heard they're good I just haven't played them. They are great nifty little games really hard, but fun Yeah, like they're the kind of hardware it can be frustrating, but at the same time super rewarding when you they would Uh, he goes on to say also thoughts on drive 2011 I haven't seen it. I've seen it. I thought it was great, but I've not seen it since it came out and that was now 10 years ago So I would have to rewatch it Um and ghost in the shell 1995 efap movies 95 one I reckon that would be a movie that would work for efap movies ranks Nope Oh, there you go Um, I just realized he used perfect dark n64 music Oh twin perfect Or whoever we're covering here This version of lex sounds like he was raised by antifa I'm not sure what the connection is Don't even know. Yeah Um, I don't trust you. I'm gonna I'm going to let everyone else know not to trust you either But first let's do this dangerous thing. Well, you know, wait till you're safe to confront security, dude there was a Do you remember the fucking part where evilman Was like told he's not trusted by that girl and then he tries to kill her and he's actually successful Despite the many opportunities she had to sort of tell on him Yeah, that was weird. I don't know why they had her like have that last breakthrough moment and then Struggle against all the zombies. Just I don't I don't get what the purpose of that was Well, you get it right like Zach said I was like, what if they were carrying fuel and they're grabbed by zombies? And then there's this moment where you have one of them say like shoot me And they blow up the gas canister on their back. Wouldn't that be pretty awesome? Wouldn't that affect like can you? Spare the fuel to blow it up like isn't that a big deal that you don't have that fuel anymore? Will that not drastically affect because if you have to carry the fuel with you Like let's assume that there's a helicopter up there and it's totally working and everything and your plan relies on it working Um I suppose you could have a setup where it's like Why do we all have a canister? Do you need this much for the helicopter and then you could have deities to be like? I'm not sure how much gas fucking helicopter uses Well, of course, but at the same time it could be like a set on a stakes thing Like the idea is that they're not even convinced that all of them would make it So they all have to carry one in case you know They look like a helicopter mpgs. Um Let's see It looks How much fuel does a helicopter use per hour? Um A small piston powered helicopter normally uses between six to 16 gallons of fuel per hour Larger turbine powered helicopters can use anywhere between 20 to several hundreds of gallons of fuel per hour So I think they were using I don't know what kind of helicopter it was. Uh, let me Because that would be interesting this looks like It just stands a helicopter uses more fuel when hovering than in forward flight interesting Yeah, with the helicopters moving forward more air is flowing flowing through the rotors resulting in At the air needs to be accelerated less to create the necessary lift Yeah, and I'm James was saying it's like I can see and they're all just watching her die for no reason at all. It's really annoying. Nobody helps, uh Somebody in the chat if you know the the type of helicopter that was in army of the dead, please let me know I'm curious just for curiosity's sake But yeah, you'd think that you only want to carry as much Fuel as you as little as you need because you have to carry that and liquids are Heavy Yeah Which is it's weird that that's I don't know. How do we how do we get out? Well, we could just leave the way became no, no, no we Like I guess we have to have some mechanism to carry all the money out All right, so What don't just see which I had the thought that I had the obvious counter while we were watching the film. So Let me know if my brains tried. Oh, well, so remember you were like why don't So do you remember what I said to you at first when you said Uh, why don't they have the safe code? Not I'm not expecting you necessarily to because it was counted immediately and I didn't think it through Why didn't they have the safe code and the counter would be he doesn't want them to tell anyone else or No, well, I think that's more reasonable But I still it doesn't it doesn't work. So what I said to you was I'll because he wanted them to he wanted the head. He didn't even want them to get into the safe, right? Which it doesn't work because they would ask Yeah, they you tell people you need to go you need to go crack my safe and I'm like Let me just tell me the combination Yeah, and you need that scene and you need to know I'm not gonna tell you the combination I'm like, what are you not telling us? Why are you hiding this from do What's going on? Like that would set up so many red flags that he wants us to do a thing But he's not gonna give us the info to do the thing and we see it. It's a combination There's no like special thing to it. It's just a combination Yeah, it seems to be an analog door. Why do you even need the power on? To get the elevator there I guess the only way down is the elevator, but that's It's really stupid Well, it's just really stupid because you you're safe is compromised the second the elevator doesn't work Oh, you know what I mean? Like it's you know that and they get out using a non elevator So there was another way Well, they cut through a wall, right? Oh, yeah, they try to go through a great The heist movies were like, all right, here's the point in it. Here's how the plan works So there was the safe then they ran like through some corridors and up a ladder into the main parking lot. Do you remember that? I remember them. Yeah leaving like the outside of another way Like we'll just think a lot logistically like you're telling me that the safe There's a couple of corridors away from it that leads you to like directly outside through like a manhole to the front area Yeah, like holy, however However, it's so precious and highly guardable or it's it needs to it's like it's got deadly booby trap booby traps in it It's because x knighter wanted a booby trap sequence Where they use zombies to activate booby traps and that's the that's the thing he wanted so It happened I'm telling you this movie man this fucking movie Yeah, the super chat was he didn't give batista the code because he never intended them to get in He only wanted to head and sent batista in as cannon fodder So the thing is cannon fodder for what when you tell batista you're cracking my safe He's gonna be like sweet What's the safe code? And then you go, yeah, well, I don't know what it is. I guess How do you not know that? I don't believe you Yeah, but he should be smart enough to be like right because I know what lies are. Yeah, no, you know, I'm out actually nothing Oh, the dodgy mission in a lot of ways because it's so slapdash and he just Like I said to you before like he gives them all the information that they need To get the money and they don't need him anymore But he provides them nothing Pretty weird actually. Yeah, it says go in and open the safe and come back It the Go that whole sequence where they had like the model builds of the place And then that one guy leaves And like what was the purpose of that that haven't that guy? No, I'm not doing it and he just leaves Oh, I just look at this The little the clone the clone pods in kamito. They've just got like this small lego brick inside him All right, that's Nate. That's how life begins That's cute as a little lego brick You have double Darth Maul's why Do I really have to answer that? I assume Not counting sentimental reasons, but in terms of just uh Like logistically I feel like two Darth Maul's logistically is gonna be pretty damn helpful double Darth Maul Four blades. All right. I'll take a Django and you know what sucks about Django. He can't jump Django can't jump and you'd be like well, does that matter if he can fly? It's like he can't fly he can only hover Like so if ever there's a gap, I just die as Django Let me show you rags as Darth Maul. I can go. Wee We Now let me use that same button as Django Okay, that fuck you game. You never do that normally What this is what usually happens it usually just kills me Because he can't go over It's really stupid like spaces like there are some spaces that you're just not allowed to go over Yeah, well r2d2 can so it's like why can't I just have r2d2 flight? The game knew you were watching it was like i'm not going to give it to you. It's like, okay The fuck are you doing r2d2? um New disney can and vader comic shows vader going to hexagall and palp showing a fleet of death star destroyers Why didn't vader tell luke this? Hi rags Hi because they made that shit up That would be pretty funny though, right after the ewoks celebration He's like, you know, we did it dad. I'm so thinking he's like, okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah, like you guys, you know, you did great, but There's some stuff There's a thousand more The emperor's not dead. He's like, huh? He's like, he's not. Well, that's not true. That's not true. That's impossible Yeah, it can't be and uh Maybe like there's more and he's like one is like so You know how the the death star was pretty spooky, right? Like that was pretty bad like to deal with that was tough. He's like, yeah Like, okay, so don't get mad but There's like another thousand of them and they're more mobile And they can all destroy planets It looks like what the fuck he's like. Look, I don't really know how either. I just I it's just it just happened. What can I say? I just I did his death scream again I love it. It's so good Um Yeah, you know, I'm just I'm glad the star was is where it's at. Really good. Oh, that's strange Probably not helpful, but most commonly used movie helicopters are typically hind Huey A little bird pavlo and black hawk Yeah, those seem to be sort of the ones that they use that the the typical standard Helicopter that's when you think of one a lot of the times. That's just what your mind automatically goes to And it's so weird considering that Let's just fuck it. I don't even know why I bother Damn listening to you guys talk about men getting treated in ads and all that's kind of depressing Why you got to do that to me? Look, they're highs and lows much like life Sometimes you hear about Men in ads sometimes you hear Jar Jar screaming to death, you know These are just the differences in experience. You have to appreciate the highs and lows because they make each other in a way Uh, but he still was sent in to draw zombie attention into the heart of the casino So his informant could sneak out the back and get the alpha head Well, no, the alpha head was right in front of them. They were all together That doesn't make sense All to kill it and steal the head and then leave Yeah, this is the you have to make that the job just make that the job They so you know when he locks the grate on them, let's pretend for a moment He doesn't and he lets them all up and they all escape together And then he has the well he has the cash register because she tricked him But we don't count in that because he doesn't know that so From his pov they all get out together that's still more bodies to distract from killing him If he needs them as they move on to be honest, you might be able to make a run for the um The standard exit because I can't remember has the time been moved forward at that point in the film I think it has actually I think so at that point. How does he plan to get out? Why would the pilot leave without everyone else when they're on calms? I guess he's gonna threaten to kill her that is plan I guess Pilots can just go down to the bottom and pick them up Well, no, I was gonna say like if if naughty man kills them all and then goes to the pilot or tries to kill them all But they're still alive on calms like don't trust him. She's probably gonna get a gun out for I don't fucking Basically what I'm saying is you had two options and he chose the really stupid one Yeah, like imagine the worst possible way that a plan could go to where it like turns into a different Plan retro. It's it's none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense It's the worst way to execute a terrible plan I'm so amused by the idea that they want to kill him to like keep it all quiet or whatever to because it's like What about that random guy that just left in the beginning? Okay, I guess he's gone That same Star Wars comic pretty much declares that snoke was a clone from luke's missing hand Oh Okay, they found it Okay They found it Mr. Leur, is it better to send memes through twitter or having one of the lads posted on discord? I often spot them from either of those. I wouldn't say anyone is particularly like a stronger bet Oh Hell try them both if you want to I should be able to get the meme through Now the complete saga fixes most of your problems mula Okay, but I'm not playing the complete saga This is the oldest lego game, right or at least the oldest Yeah So it makes sense the things have got clunk in them It'll be interesting to see how they go with just the the next one the original trilogy to see if if they made significant improvements Who knows Guy surviving with bite felt just like the joker stuff injustices He just tacked on to extend a film and tease more that hopefully never comes Uh, yeah Like I don't even know what they're saying is gonna happen That you burst out of that thing a zombie and infects the two people on board and then they burst out and they infect everybody And then it's a worldwide thing Like I guess so I guess It was so long all that sequence. We were just like, what is the point of it? What are you gonna do? You know like baiting that the zombie virus isn't over You can do that so quickly and easily Yep, you took like 10 million years You know like what's the point of having him talk to the the girls getting his way in and having his champagne You're just like, can you just have him realize he's bitten? That's all you had to do Oh, this would be interesting. I'm gonna walk into django fett's room as django fett See if I upset him Oh, no Supposed to make sense. I am a clone For some reason superman doesn't super save Super speed use super speed to save his mum although the goons don't kill his mum when batman is not stealthily taking out the goons Oh, yeah, I I don't right think it's um It's it's practically character assassination Snyder superman would absolutely go and get the mum And he'll be better for it too because he can do everything way faster than batman Yeah, we've established how you know insanely fast he can move he is Depending on the scene because they're inconsistent. He is faster and slower than the flash so Yeah Big question. How did lex luther and batman both plan this on the same night? Does lex luther have precognition to see when uh, what batman will do? Uh, was there a reasoning for that? I can't remember was it Like why batman was doing that that night or was it that batman was doing it every night? I can't remember. I don't think you're doing it every night. That doesn't seem right to me at all I'd have to rewatch it to know for sure The only part of lex's plan that's clever is setting up batman to steal his kryptonite But I don't know why he wants batman to use it instead of using it himself um Oh, no no no music um Yeah, I I guess he he really wants to see them fight. Was that it? Yeah Whatever reason He wants to see man and god fight. It's gonna be really awesome Why does black guy turn into a zombie after such a long time while drax turns relatively quickly? Yeah Um because don't think about it So I'm not sure if drax is the best comparison because you could argue he was just dying anyway And so he turned While this guy was like relatively healthy except for the bite And so maybe that it's a factor, but I can't remember if the soldier dudes at the beginning of the film like they turn pretty fast I don't know. I It's weird. Look however long it takes to turn is the hell of a lot longer than that guy would have had Fucking lost a long time Oh, no that was Was that oh look at the jet look at the Look that in the closet. There's the jet pack from there is yeah, but he but he left the room. So didn't he take it? No It's a spare one. I guess jar jar pick it up become a bounty hunter possibly possibly The only part of oh wait. Yeah, I read that Hey molla, I'm an air force veteran and wanted to leave a message telling y'all that fringy's nuke idea Was a good idea when you guys discussed man of steel the flying down idea not so much I don't quite remember. I'm sorry. Yeah It's just a fringy's nuke idea was a good idea when you guys discussed man of steel the flying down idea not so much Huh, um, I don't quite remember Don't see how I don't feel you fly they would shoot rockets into it from above What's the what is I don't like I don't even have any context. What do we roast the argument or statement? I thought we said that why don't they just fly in from the top Then shoot down into it so Wait, but who flies in where I've like I move I don't even know what we're talking about Who's flying I'm wearing doing what I'm that lost the fighters Were they the fighters flying into the gravity thingy and metropolis when they were shooting at it Oh, yeah from above. That's right Maybe maybe that's what's being oh We we that's the suggestion we made we made why not use all the planes flew it from the side and got destroyed Right because they fucking crashed into it because the retards So he's saying the nuke is a good idea, but flying from above is bad Um, I mean, I don't even know that you'd be that worried about whatever direction anyway, right because um Oh, maybe he's saying that flying down from it from above It's like a pilot is going to be really difficult. Maybe that's because I just I just meant that you send the missile up and then down Okay, I'm not the other pilot But of course there's going to be a huge collateral damage, but we're looking to save the entire planet, so Yeah Um, I don't know if there was more to that. That's just that's all that was said Superman Martha Batman Martha doomsday Martha Wonder Woman wait, what the fuck? Yeah, I mean I think it's very possible that doomsday had a mom she might have been named Martha You don't know you shouldn't prejudge Or just no many kids around. I do have eight of them. So Twin perfect is just as smart as bvs is lex. Does he also piss in jars? I wouldn't rule it out. Some people like doing that Yeah Just put a little bit of a little bit of the piss right in there Slosh it around give it a label It's my 30th birthday. I'm hungover from a night of kraken and ginger ale and the world's gifted me an efap Whoo, also my works benefits acronym efap Oh, really? Well, it's destined to be I suppose Hmm I like how um When I give the the second player jango When does ever platforming of any kind the bot turns into r2d2 because he's just like the most consistent or or jar jar, of course Jar jar and r2d2 the best platformers and star wars changed my mind There should be a buddy cop show Jeff Bezos would be a great lex. Oh wait Well, he wouldn't even he's not even amazon's CEO anymore, right? Uh, I think he's not in that role anymore. No Well, well Um The guy from smallville would have been perfect. Oh, yeah, he um, I forget his name Trapped out something bomb. I believe. Yeah Something like that How was the businessman not modern? Oh, I guess that because the argument was the lex is a modern take on lex luther in the pvs Like that's what yeah, that's what modern billionaires are now. They're not like what lex used to be Which is silly. There's plenty of lex types that could be done. It's just like chill out Like it's funny, right? The appeal to like almost um Realism it's like we have to we have to have this one because it represents what people like these days It's like since when do you have to do that? You're fucking people made of ice and shit Whatever you want. Yeah It would have been better if lex had stolen 50 pies. Search it up. Oh, I think uh southpaw showed me that Something in the comics involving pie stealing Like some more modern Classic lex is pro-humans super people are danger I think um from what I heard one of his motivations was that he he's done everything he can to be like the best human ever But he can never be as good as superman. It's apparently one of his potential motivations Oh, they should have mentioned that Well, oh, I don't mean from the movie. I just meant like one of his comic iterations. Obviously the movie one nobody knows the motivation Yeah, because he's an insane weird villain that no one could figure out and he's just That's the thing. I don't really I'm starting to wonder if Zach even knew what his motivation was Like he's um, you know Makes sense if you don't think about it Lex luther is an egotistical maniac who hates superman because he thinks he makes humanity weaker by having to rely on superman Uh, he wants to lead if Well, yeah, not this one though humanity gets humanity gets really weak if it gets destroyed by aliens Like the more modern lex hates superman and other superheroes because he believes they make humanity weaker and cheap in humanity's accomplishments Yeah, these things. That's just not what they did At all, what's worse toy story 4 or Incredibles 2 Toy story 4 toy story 4 bugs me a lot more Yeah, I I would have to rewatch Incredibles 2 as well to be even to comment really but Uh, I don't know fucking Really hard to do They did jimmy olsen's so dirty in this film. I don't know. I don't understand why someone does that unless they're trying to piss people off Yeah, it could be it could have been anyone, but they made it someone that like people cared about was for comics Why though just have it be some guy I just don't know that anybody would watch it and be like, thanks Zach I like Django, but I really should have gone anyone else the shooting gallery stuff But this is Kamino. This is like his Home turf is element Oh god, that didn't even hit now. I gotta wait for ages again. Thanks Uh Hey, maybe in Jay's video he could talk about how this is a stupid part that you shouldn't have to do Hey, yeah, there you go Um, you know what because it's really frustrating and lame I'll complete this one While I'm like probably watching a youtube video because I can just do it infinitely or something Yeah, so that I won't waste everyone's time and I think six hours is probably pretty good We've caught up on a bunch. We're still not done with uh One two sevens. Oh boy. It's all right. It's okay. We're getting there. It's a lot. Yeah Where are we? Do do black Also the gore in the movie looked laughably fake Um, I didn't yeah, I wasn't like I just it was just It's just kind of off-putting for me and Tim's just like, yep, there we go Oh, it's like gore for a thrown sake came across. It's like a lot of the stuff in the movie. It just seemed juvenile It was like It was like the boys like a lot of times came across as juvenile and childish Yeah I know this isn't specifically I know this isn't specifically y'all but this b-tast on twitter is stupid if southport wants a hot take one scene and calling old detractors babies, isn't it Well, I mean it seems like he's citing more than one scene and it depends on what people say in response, right? So like if I ripped into one scene from tlj Let's say I went for the disappearing knife Then people are like you fucking serious. You're gonna be looking at every single frame for errors I might be like, um, I don't know. I feel like this is a significant issue and someone else says do you even know how laser knives work? I'll be like, I feel That's weird and then someone said this happens in all kinds of movies all the time Again, I'd be like, oh these arguments are really bad and then if someone said why are you even final these people? You've made one argument. They'd be like they counter argued like I don't see why that's my fault So, um, I don't know. I'll be interested to see what he comes up with in his full video But he's definitely pissed people off on twitter, which by the way, it's not too hard Just you gotta say, you know something that people like is bad or something people hate is good Um Yeah, I don't know if you'd call all detractors babies. Maybe he did. Um, I'm sure there's one person out there who's already had their mind changed Who knows? Lex Luthor's motivation changed over the years in silver age It was because super boy destroyed his creation of life and caused him to lose his hair Um, I'm pretty sure that's what happens in smallville. Lex has like curly ginger locks and then The current view is the it's whatever the the thing that gives everyone's powers. I think that makes Lex Luthor's loses hair It's like damn But yes, that makes us caught up at least with with today's as well. So we've got none that are added and um Yeah, I I agree with all of you. I wish we had better lex luthers. Maybe one day we will Give it time Brian Cranston, man. Brian Cranston was right there Yeah, it would have been your lex. It would have been great One of them castings that people are just like come on Do it Do it Yeah, thank you all for hanging out with us This I don't know if meme fab's next or if we're gonna do something else We are still trying to catch up on the old super chat. So that's probably gonna be a full episode at some point Uh, because we're that far behind but you know, we had several 10 or 11 hour episodes. So You're gonna have to listen to us talk about things that aren't a video for just a little bit longer Yeah, you should have plenty of stuff to chew on and Well, the thing is they've got loads of fucking efat movies on the way. So don't worry and they're all rather big ones Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, you'll have you'll have plenty of fun ahead We got some bigans On the way Yes, thank you all so much and I hope you have a good morning Evening and afternoon Have a good one all around Yeah, see y'all later on Goodbye Eaterino