 Hey Terry. How's it going? Hey, how you doing? Not too bad. Just want to put out a reminder that we are recording the meeting so nobody's surprised by that. Are you staying cool today though? Yes, I am. Good. It's very hot. Yes, I'm trying to turn my speakers up. I sent the main meetings to Chad yesterday and I said, you know, can you review and we can discuss and we can approve the main meetings? Well, you know, we have to do it as a council. It can't be just you and me. So that's fine. I also, um, well, Angela doesn't actually have to approve it. That can just be done by the council. But I did send that along both versions of the minutes. Well, that's what he said. Yeah, so everyone should have it. But no, the meetings can be approved at that, you know, at the meeting. It's on the docket. So we can talk up with that and approve them. Right. Speakers. Shout out to Rosemary. I'm going to allow you to talk, Rosemary, just because you're here. I'm going to acknowledge that. Hey Rosemary, girl, how are you? And we have it officially started. Yes. Hey Karen, how are you? She said how are you? Not too bad. Going well. We had some crazy rain in South Deerfield. Yeah, it was like, almost like hail, not quite, but like just sheets of rain. Yeah, totally misty and hammers, at least Rhymen hammers. We had nothing. Oh, well, maybe you're lucky. I don't know. The plants might say otherwise, but yesterday we had, we had live butterflies at the senior center and they had brought, yeah, it was really cool. They brought stick bugs and this huge needle. And one of the seniors brought their grandkids and they were so precious to watch. It was really nice. I got some good pictures. Was it from the Hitchcock Center or somewhere else? Magic wings. Hey Norma. Hey Christina. And just another reminder to everyone, it's five o'clock and we are recording the meeting. You're not muted. Your video's on. You're all set. I'll check the music out. Thanks. So we're still missing Jacqueline, Dennis. Chad, are you there? Yes, ma'am. Awesome. Nice to see you. We have a quorum. No, I don't think so. We only have Terry, Karen, Christina and yourself. That makes four. That makes four. Well, if you want to call it to order, you're welcome to do so or we can wait for the other two members that were missing. I just texted Jacqueline to see if I can get a response. Okay. We're going to have a tornado. They said beyond the lookout. Contradictory reports. Say hail, rain. One said tornado. Yeah, central mass. I saw about a tornado warning for sure. Hey, Dennis. So Ted, did you want to call the meeting to order as chair and do a roll call? Maybe give it two minutes, so five after. How does that sound? Sounds good. Two other folks. Hello, everybody. Okay, I'm getting a question of whether we have quorum or not. I thought it was four. I see five, so I'm totally uncertain. Yeah, we have a majority. There's enough for a quorum now. You just need a majority of the members to be present. Let me get this screen out of the way. Call the July meeting to order. I'll see if I can get this governor's statement about the reality of meetings in Zoom pursuant to the governor's March 12th border suspending certain provisions of over-meeting law. This meeting is being conducted via remote participation. It's going to be recorded. Is the recorded button pushed yet? I announced that at five. Roll call to check to make sure everyone's here. All right, part of this roll call is to see if you can unmute and if you're on screen and that sort of thing. So I'm going to go from to my right, just as you are on the screen, is Terry Carr here. Terry Carr, please unmute and let us know if you're present. Terry Carr, please unmute and let us know if you're present. I'm present. Thank you. Thank you, Karen. Here. Christina. Here. And Dennis. Right here. Okay, so we're all present and accounted for the, boy, this is complicated on Zoom. The first item on the agenda is public comment. We have a period, you know, donated to our agenda that allotted for public comment. Residents are welcome to express their views. They get up to three minutes of peace. We're not allowed to engage with them. We just listen to what they have to say. Is there anybody present for that today? It does not sound like it. So I want to welcome the members that are present and go ahead with the folks have a agenda with them and they see the agenda. Yeah. Otherwise, I'll have Haley put it on the share screen and we can follow it that way. Sounds like Dennis has his. Yeah, I printed it out. My printer is broken. So do the other members have you got yours, Terry, Karen, Christina. How about you Norma? I haven't heard from you yet. Do you have a yes, I do. Okay. Yep. This Terry Norma has one as well. All right. So the first item, as you will see is four items from the director. I don't see any time allotted for this. So I'm not sure how long it will go. Can you give us a rough estimate, Haley? I think it might take maybe 10, 15 minutes. You know, I'm not really sure, but I'll try to keep it fairly concise. So there's actually quite a few things that I need to update the board about at the senior center. The first thing I do want to put an announcement out about, I got a call from a concerned senior about cooling centers. So the Bang Center is open between the hours of 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. If people need to come in Monday through Friday to cool off. And that's certainly an option. And, you know, oftentimes we have programs going on. So people are welcome to hang out and attend one of those. If you know of somebody who needs that, if maybe they're afraid to turn on their air conditioner because it's too expensive, or they don't have one at home, you know, please send them to the Bang Center because we want to make sure that they can cool off in this heat. So that's my first announcement. The second announcement is rather good news. The health department has moved their vaccine clinics to their health offices. So they no longer need to use room 101, which means that we are free. Yep, that's an excellent sign both because now we have that room available for programs. But also enough people are vaccinated that they don't have the demand. You know, we may need to adjust in the fall. I'm sure there will be a booster clinic. But as of right now, we do have almost free rain over that space again. So that's excellent news. Yep, very happy about that. Number three, I do want to kind of talk about just the visits that we've had. You know, we've seen definitely an uptick in people coming to the senior center. But that did go down a little bit in June. We averaged about 1000 visits, which is maybe like 4950 a day, which is about half of what we have been doing in May. And there are there are a couple of reasons for that. You know, we had one big event in May, which boosted our numbers, kind of skewed the average there. And people tend to go away July through August. So we don't have as many people in town to use our services. But one thing that I kind of want to highlight for the board, and I would like to take some time to talk about this is how do we promote our programs? You know, how do we make sure that people are that know about what we have going on, and that can then come and attend. So on my end, I've been working with Brianna to do more Facebook posts, put everything up on the town calendar, when we have a special event, doing more press releases, trying to get, you know, making sure that we talk to Amherst Bulletin, the reminder, places like that. But I don't know if anyone here had some thoughts on other avenues I might try. I have a kind of feeling that people just maybe they get their newsletter, but they don't read it. And even if there was something that they might want to attend, if they're not reading it, they don't know about it. Does anybody have any thoughts on that? Anything that maybe I suggest the Interfaith Council. Okay. Because most of them, you have the Muslim community, you have the Quakers, you have various religious organizations. On my part, I volunteer as a church clerk at Goodwin, and I share anything related to senior center or Department of Health, anything I always share it with our members. But we're only a small section of the population of seniors. And there could be a lot more people reached through the Interfaith Council with all of these religious groups. Oh, that's a great idea. If I gave you some flyers, would you put them up? Because we even we're offering things like a blood pressure clinic for free, walk in, Reiki sessions once a week, we do a foot clinic, we do a hand hand nail clinic all at the senior center for either free or for very low cost. And if people if cost was prohibitive, we do have our wellness grants. So I'm going to get you some flyers if that's okay. Will you accept suggestions on email? Sure. Okay, so we can send if things come up in people's minds later. Do folks have her email? It's on today's announcement. Okay. Just a quick idea. As a photographer, you know that a man with a hammer to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And I was, I was kind of thinking that if you've got these activities going, that we could possibly put together you and I could possibly put together a photo story and sell it to the reminder publications. Okay, they're probably absorbed some of their space. They've, they've, they've taken some of my photos from Brianna Sunrid and use them on the front page. And I don't know how much space they've really got available, but it, it's, it's, it might be worth a shot. I don't have any contact. I don't know anybody there at reminder. So maybe that's something that I could work on before we actually start shooting. I've got Dylan, Dylan Corey, I think it's his last name. I've touched base with him now. What is a photo story? I've never heard that. Oh, it's basically like a, a block of, oh, I don't know. I would probably hand to them, let's say 15 or 20 different photos of different things that are going on at the senior center, like a recay class and all that stuff. And they could boil it down to like a package, a group of photographs on a single page of let's say eight photos and a little story under it. Oh, neat. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Yeah. And it would just be a nice package of exposure that they themselves would not have to generate. Their biggest commitment would be to find the space and lay it out in a relatively attractive manner. Layout is not a real big skill with those guys over there, but, you know, enough photos of local people is always, always a good thing. Oh, definitely. Yeah, we can definitely use some more photos. I meant to tell you the other day about some, a couple programs I'd wanted you to take pictures at, but I did them myself, but I'm not a professional. So, you know, I'm adding that skill to the resume though. So, we can talk about that. Yeah, that sounds really good, because I think really that that's one of the key problems that we're having at the senior center with our low attendance. You know, it's really not enough to put something in our in-house newsletter, even though we want them to read it, I think a lot of times it ends up forgotten or maybe in the waste bin. So we got to be a bit more engaged. Now, I don't know, Karen, if you have any ideas about UMass, things we could do. Yeah, I'm not sure. So I'm not sure UMass, but what occurred to me is, is it, I don't know how many of the seniors use email, is it worth putting together some kind of listserv that sends them weekly reminders of that week's events that they could opt into? We have one for the newsletter, but we might, maybe another one would be good, or at least trying to refresh people's mind on that. Broadcast is a great method. You make one message and hit the button and it goes out to multiples. Now, Facebook is that way. They have to click on Facebook to become a friend. I don't know if we have a Facebook page. We do. So what you would do is you'd encourage people to hit a friend, a friend, the senior center, and that way anytime that you want to put something out, they receive it. That's a push. I think what we need is a poll as well. But right now, I'm looking at the time and part of my role is to move us along. So I don't know. Sure. Yeah. So I do, speaking of polls, I do want to talk about some upcoming programs that I want people to be aware of. Some of those are senior center specific, but we have a couple of community events that are really, I'm really excited about. So there's Mondays starting July 25th and July, August 1st and August 8th. We have Dusty Dufresne. She's July 25th. She's going to be doing a little like folk kind of music at two o'clock at the Bang Center. And then on Monday, August 1st, also at two o'clock, we have a 60s folk tribute. Roger Ticknell does this really nice performance to take you back in the day. So he'll be there at two o'clock. And then Monday, August 8th at two, we're doing music at two, if you catch the theme, is Steve and Tommy. And they do polka. They crack jokes. They do everything. We'll do a meet and greet with Cress on Friday, August 12th at nine o'clock. Earl is going to bring coffee and donuts. And then we have two ice cream socials coming up, where we'll have sheriff's candidates. Sheriff Patrick K. Helene will be at the senior center Friday, August 12th at one o'clock to meet with the seniors and talk about the sheriff's race. And then sheriff candidate Caitlin Sopita will be there on the following week, Friday, August 19th, also at one o'clock. Then we'll have a program on black holes Tuesday, August 23rd at 1030. We've got a professor from Smith College, Gary Felder. We'll be here to talk about the magic and the mystery. And then we're doing a hearing loss program with the Florence hearing clinic Wednesday, August 24th at one o'clock. The other community events that we have coming up, we're doing two poolside movies with Amherst recreation. So next Friday, July 20, July 29th, at eight o'clock, we're showing Jaws at the Mill River pool. You can sit on the lawn or you can swim in the pool while you're watching the movie. And then the following Friday, August 5th, we're going to show cocoon. And I'm hoping to pack the pool with seniors that would be very appropriate for that movie. Again, both of those are eight o'clock. And then we are also doing a community safety day with the police fire and crest departments. Very excited about that. It's Saturday, August 13th from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. And we'll be doing a touch a truck event. So there'll be a fire engine, cruisers, motorcycles. We'll do fire safety demonstrations. There'll be a Jaws of Life presentation. We'll have a canine. And then the district attorney's office will be present to talk about scams. We'll be doing a car seat giveaway with AAA. What else? Holy oak hummus company will be our food truck. They'll be catering the event. And then we have performances by puppeteer Tom Knight. Again, Roger Ticknell doing like a 50s music presentation. And then Amy Salmon will be doing Zumba. So I've gone all out for this event. It's just a way to showcase how we're working together to address public safety and hoping to see some grandparents and grandchildren and people really just having a fun time at a free family event. And that'll be at Mill River again on Saturday, August 13th from 10 to 2. And if anyone is around and can definitely use a few hands if you have time that day. But anyway, I would love for people just to go and Dennis to take some photos would be amazing. So and then the other big news at the senior center on a less positive note. So we are looking for a new admin assistant. Unfortunately, David Rodriguez is no longer working for the town. So this is kind of put Helen, Donna, Deborah and myself really like full blast having to cover as much as we can. We'll also facing volunteer shortages. We are going to be interviewing some candidates for admin assistant next week. I've got six people lined up who I who I'm really thrilled about. But in the meantime, it's definitely been tough to keep up with everything that's going on with the phones and people walking in because now we're more busy that way. So we shall see. So wish me luck next Thursday that we can get a get a good first round with some folks. And and that's about it. Yeah. I think you can move on now. That was all my updates. I see three other the other items under your you're going to cover the other I did talk about the programs. I did talk about special events and staffing your rights. I did neglect the agent dementia friendly project. How could I so this coming Monday at two 30, we have the talk on transportation, buildings and outdoor spaces. And that'll be via zoom. I sent out a link earlier today. If you didn't get it, I'll consent it again. This will be the third listening session in the project. And then the the ones to follow will be public safety and we'll have a special Spanish speaker session. And those are actually going to happen a month later than first anticipated. So those will happen in September and October. We'll take a break in August. All right. Thank you. I don't see any specific individual listed beside number five, six or seven. Yeah, so that well, if I could say a quick thing about five. So that was an item put forth by Greg Baskin. But I don't know if everyone on the council knows that Greg has given his resignation on the council. So we now have a seat vacated by Rosemary Koffler and Greg Baskin. So we'll be trying to recruit for two seats. Greg had wanted to talk about open meeting law and email communication among board members, which is a really important topic. You know, essentially, you just can't give your opinions to another board member. Everything's got to be discussed at a public meeting for full transparency. And I did find out that there is a open meeting law training webinar on Tuesday, August 9th from 930 to 11. The state has an open meeting law website you can go to. If that doesn't fit your schedule, they have other trainings, but it's definitely something that, you know, people on the board should know about. You know, you'll want to, if you know it, refresh your memory. If it's new, definitely take the training. Has everyone done the training before on the council? No. When I worked for the senior center, they had me do a mini course and sign off on a pledge and there was a sort of like a little test. But that was, I don't know, that was in the past before COVID might have been 2013. I'm not sure I can't remember the past that well. I mean dates and that sort of thing. But yeah, went through that. My understanding is, as long as you don't talk about policy, it's all right. It's really giving opinions. You know, if it's something that you would deliberate on, and certainly, you know, you wouldn't want to do that with, you know, a fraction of the board. So I would definitely recommend the training and I have the link if people want. I can email that to you. Where is the training? It's online. It's a webinar. If you go to mass.gov slash open meeting law, they have a whole list. The attorney general's office puts those out very regularly. All right. Any questions? Any comments? We have a question from Linda Terry. I don't see the hand. Sorry. Oh, if you hit the, I can't because I'm the host. I didn't ask. Oh, you didn't? Okay, there you go. Just listening. All right. Let's see. I log on future direction. That was one of mine. What I wanted to say about that, and I'm not sure any one else is of a common opinion, is that the organization has like a 47 year history with one director. And we had a short time with another Mary Beth was here for a while. And now we have Haley. We also have quite a few new board members. This is what is generally called reorganization in most organizations. And there is an ability to coalesce as a team. Take some breathing room and look into the future and say, what do we want to do for the next three to five years better known as a strategic plan? You know, we have been very lucky that we've gotten this AARP national survey has come to town. And we've just got some results from that. My thought again, this is talking just about me. I don't know how other people feel. One of our members, Mila, I knew her thoughts, was interested in using this strategic plan and saying, how do we go forward with the data that we've received from this? Typically, people are called for their interest on the items that are on the top of the list from a survey. And self-motivation is a great energy to go forward. I don't know if anybody's seen the results, but they're what folks would typically think on the surface. Transportation and housing are big. But we could do cross tabulation. I don't know how many of you are familiar with cross tabs where answers are statistically compared with other answers and coalesced together to make answers to questions that weren't asked on the survey. To me, that's where the real dynamism of a survey like this can come from. But at any rate, my thought is that we move forward with that, that we make our own agenda, that we own our minutes, that possibly we have a retreat in the fall where we can do some personal kinds of things so that we can move on more towards business types of things. We don't really know each other here. We see each other on a screen. Soon we might see each other for an hour and a half, once a month. To go forward in a dynamic way, I think we need to develop trust in each other. We need to know each other, know what others' interests are so that we can lean on one another, and together move forward and really make some impact for the elders of animals. So that's my little spiel on future direction. I don't know anybody's feelings on that since there's no times on this agenda. I'm not sure how long we should spend. Maybe I'll just limit it by saying, does that sound like what other people in the room, so to speak, in the room see is important? How about, again, birth to my right parent? I think I like the idea of getting to know people better, and I'm looking forward to meeting people face to face. I think this is a very difficult way to get to know people. I think for a retreat, as long as there is an agenda for the retreat, I think that I would be on board. As long as I could, I'm someone who works a more than full-time job, so I wouldn't want to hold other people up. But if I'm going to attend, I'd have to work around my work schedule. But I do think as long as there's an agenda and there's a reason for holding a retreat, it's a good idea. It's an opportunity to have a longer period of time together to do things that are very difficult to do in an hour and a half, once a month. So if you'll allow me to press you a little bit, I'll do that after we go around again and give you a chance to think about what would be on that agenda. How about Christina? Well, similarly to Karen, I work two part-time jobs, and therefore I'm limited to, you know, I can come to a meeting after five, but in terms of the middle of the week, I only have one day off that I could attend a, because my work between the two of them add up to an enormous amount of hours. And so I would have to, there's only one day of the week that I could meet for a retreat during the mornings. So I don't mind going to a retreat, but I'm also, I hate to say this in public, but I'm immunocompromised and I'm on immunocompromised therapy. So I really do not feel comfortable being, and I haven't even gone back to my church in person. Thank you for sharing that, Christina. That is, it's a hard way to live. Prior to the pandemic, I would jump up and say, yeah, let's go. And Chad knows me well because I was on a choir. I was in a choir with him. We traveled everywhere. We went to every town we could to sing, and it was not a big deal, but my life has changed drastically because of this pandemic. And I'm limited. So I really don't want to be around any. My sister came to my door earlier and I have to wear a mask. That's too bad. Yes, it is. So I'm limited to being able to be face to face. And I like the idea of meeting outdoors now that the weather is going to be still good for that hour and a half. I'd be happy to do that with my mask. But for the retreat, we would have to be indoors, and I don't know if I can do that. Well, actually, nothing has been decided yet. That's one thing that I'd like to see before I be able to do is decide things together. At any rate, thank you for that. Christina, how about Terry? Are you still here, Terry? Yep, I am muted. I'm also a mute. Yep. I'm all ears. Okay, I'm also immune compromised. So I don't feel comfortable face to face without a mask. And you know, it depends on the time, the place, and how long it's going to be, because I'm busy too. And what's the agenda? Can you picture what it would be about? No, not yet. Okay, or the day of the week, or the length of time? An hour. We don't want to spend three hours on it. I would say an hour and a half tops. See, I guess Dick Dennis' laughs. I'm frozen. Someone else? No. Christina has her hand up. We'll go back. We'll get to you to Christina. Go ahead, Dennis. Okay. I'm pretty much in favor of it as well, but also have to be careful about my involvement very much the same. I mean, I don't have immune compromised issues, but I do have limited time available. And I think probably the most important thing we probably could do would be to get together for, it's an old idea that I came up with, which would basically be to, let's say, meet for possibly an hour or an hour and a half, or something like that outside and not discuss actual issues, we just get to know each other a little bit. That is, in my opinion, is the greatest drawback to always being on Zoom meetings, that we don't get to see anybody in person. And that's just sort of disappointing. And the town does have some good parks where we could grab a cup of coffee and just sit on a park bench and smile and get to know each other a little bit better. That's really it. Just really keep it simple. It would not violate state law, open meeting laws, but it would just, we could just talk possibly just very generally about what we would hope in very broad strokes to accomplish in the next few years. That's it. Yes, there would be no violation of any open meeting laws. I would get back to her, but Christina has her hand up. Go ahead. Christina, can you see your hand is up? Yep. I just wanted to, I was just going to suggest that when we do have a meeting, we could come ahead of that meeting to socialize. Some of us socialized, some of us saw each other at the open house, and it wasn't about business as usual. It was, hi, how are you seeing each other in a different light? And so I definitely, Dennis, you said it before I did, but it was on my mind that if we come, but I'm validating you. If we come, even if it's a half an hour before a meeting, there's benches right outside of the Banks Community Center. There's plenty of places to sit and congregate outdoors safely and get to know each other. Hi, how are you? Check in with each other before we then go into a meeting or validate YouTube. Yep, there you go. Whatever you decide works in terms of a schedule for everyone, we'll just have to pull the group and ask them what would work for them in terms of meeting for a half an hour to enjoy ourselves before a meeting. That's basically, those are my, basically my two cents. And even if we do talk about what we would like to see happen in a few years in a broad sense, we can say, oh, that's great. Let's put that on the agenda. We're not breaking any laws because then we, you know, as part of our conversation, it happened informally, and then we're gonna put it on the agenda so we can discuss it more formally. Does that sound okay to you, Hailey? I think, I mean, I'm definitely in favor of getting to know each other more. I would want to check that, you know, by doing that, we're not inadvertently, you know, breaking any rules. But, you know, I'm kind of wondering, Chad, you know, how does the director fit into that? Because I hear you're talking about, like, we, and I'm not sure if we is the board or if that's the board and the director. And I need some clarification on that. Well, retreats are usually without staff, but we could talk about that. Let's hear if Karen has something to say about that. Well, I would like to still add, though, that the director is a really integral part of the council on aging. You know, the council is there to support and guide the director in the operations of the senior center. So I think if, you know, if you're gonna be meeting without me, you know, that kind of feels like a big piece would be missing of that because, you know, I'm the relay for what's going on at the senior center. You know, you're, you're helping me with that vision, but my vision for the senior center is also very important and should be represented at the council meetings. Yes, indeed. And as we advise you, oh, excuse me, go ahead. One or the other? Quickest time again, that's all. Yeah, me too. Go ahead, Christina. I agree that nobody who's involved in serving the seniors should be excluded from the meeting. Oh, so part of your suggestion is that we have the other staff members from the center at that. Oh, I don't even know who the staff members were. There was only one administrative assistant. I do not know who anyone else is. Well, it wouldn't, it wouldn't need to be, you know, again, a council on aging works with the senior center director. That is guidance from the Massachusetts Council on Aging, which is the regulatory authority for councils on aging. So it wouldn't have to be the entire staff. It would just be the director. Well, then I will change that word to the director. I think maybe we should have a motion. You know, my question. Let me hear from, we can't actually hear from Jackie, but maybe we can hear from Karen and we can't. Jacqueline is here. She's at the meeting here with the discussion to this point. Would you have any questions so far, Jacqueline? Could we can pull in? I'm not. I will need to review the guidelines for the organization. I think the policies from the town sound like they're very clear and the suggestion would be following that. And I think looking at the mission and the bylaws of the council would be important. On the one hand, I feel that it's just common sense that the director would be involved and be a part, but I also feel that we should make sure that we are on steady and sturdy ground by referring back to the bylaws. Not but, but and. And I apologize. I had some technical difficulties, but I'm here now. I get this idea from other boards and committees and commissions and so on that do this within the town. What would you see, Karen, on as some of the agenda for meetings such as this? I think it seems like we're talking about two different things. So there's the issue of just getting together and getting to know each other. But then to me, that's different from retreat, you know, and different from strategic planning. I'm kind of mired in strategic planning and my job. So, you know, I don't know if we have the appetite for really doing structured strategic planning where we're doing a SWAT analysis and then developing goals, long term goals. I do think it's worth developing goals. I just don't know whether it sounds like people are very busy and this can be very time consuming. So I'm not sure whether a true strategic planning process is something that's feasible, but certainly thinking about our goals and for me, you know, thinking about what is offered in Northampton, you know, I'm Facebook friends with the Northampton Senior Center, even though I've never been there just because I was curious about what they have to offer. And it's impressive what they have to offer. And whenever I see something there, I think, why can't we do that? So I think doing some visioning and some goal planning would be something that would be an interesting thing. But I'm not sure if a true strategic planning process is something that many of us have the time to engage in. I'd love to know what those programs are sometime, but I also do want to point out that Terry has her hand up. Ready for me? I think we should update the member notebook before we start any strategic planning or agenda, etc. So we know what our roles are and what we're responsible for, etc, etc. Before we go into this agenda retreat, that's just my thoughts. And I don't know when that's going to happen in September, I think. Well, I don't know. I don't know. We haven't talked about that yet. You know, I don't know with the member notebook is fairly up to date. And as far as I know, before I got here, you all had talked about your bylaws and redone them. So I don't know if you want to so quickly go back and do them again. And whether you certainly would be welcome to do so. Yeah. Well, I thought that Chad, Christina, and you were going to do it by September. That's what I remember in one of the meetings. I think September was like a CDBG grant kind of a thing, because that was something that Christina and Chad and I had met. And again, that I still don't have an update on. I think the state had a delay. So now the local level has a delay. So I think everything's just delayed right now. And then Christina also has her hand up. Not that I am opposed to a strategic planning, but I don't believe that we have the expertise to run a strategic plan in the way that it should run is most organizations. And I have worked at UMass and I have worked with professors that have gotten grant money and everything. And they hire people with the expertise to come in and talk to them about strategic planning and then get everyone together, give everyone nice meals and they work on this stuff together. This is not something that I believe a small group of volunteers to this council can pull off. And I am definitely in agreement with Karen on looking at I have spoken with my friends and I have spoken to Rosemary and Jacqueline Smith when they interviewed me to be on this council and showed them some of the things that I saw on the Northampton programs and looking at how others who are similar to us in size and scope can do and implement them for our seniors so that we, if we focus on who we are serving rather than planning, a lot of planning, because I am pragmatic and I just want things to see things happen rather than all this planning because one thing about organizations, and I have studied in my management courses, is that the moment you finish a plan, another dynamic, another paradigm occurs and then that plan gets squashed. Some of you know what I am talking about. Or the leaders leave and the new leaders come with something else. So I am not into a whole lot of planning, long-term planning. I would like short-term planning and action that has outcomes that people can benefit from. I think that is great. I think some of that could be accomplished in the short term. Well, can I talk really quick about, I think I have a really pragmatic example. One of the things that we do need to do as a senior center is recruit seniors who are in their early 60s and even in their 50s, 55 plus. I had a senior give me this really wonderful idea. I can bounce it off at the council. This is again something we could implement in the very near future and hopefully get engaged with our community is a grandparent lending library. Currently, we distribute walkers and wheelchairs. We could very easily have pack-in plays. We could easily have high chairs, booster seats. If I am a grandparent whose children live out of town and they are bringing their grandkids, my great grandkids in, I can go to the senior center and get those things. I do not have to pay for it myself. I can just borrow it and return it when I am done. That would be a way for us to reach new people, get the word out. It would be a really unique service that you are not going to see at a lot of other senior centers. Those are the type of things that I think we do not need a retreat to start doing. We can talk about those things now. We can start making plans to reach new people, new audiences now. We have the framework and place part of the issue was you had a long period of time where you did not have a director or you had one and then that person left and you had an interim and there was not a lot of stability. But I have been here seven months now. Going into my eighth month, there is a lot more stability now than there was in January. Part of what I am hearing from you, that frustration is just not having that person to say, this is the direction we should go in because I have heard from people that this is what they want. We can give it to them. I think that we already possess a lot of the things that we are talking about doing. We just have to, like Christina said, sit down and do them. Put them in the newsletter. Put them in the newspaper. Get people talking about us. Get them excited to come to the senior center. We can do that now. We are starting to slowly do that already. I also think that engaging in the, it is good to have a strategic plan, but sometimes we get locked into developing strategies. Like you said, how about our doing the do, just doing. And then we have a real strong basis for pulling together, categorizing some of the things we are doing. Because some of the things, as we had discussed several months ago, there are seniors at various stages of senior growth and development, maybe we should say. And there are also organizational needs of the senior center. And one of them is an advocacy component. I think we have education, advocacy. There are so many things that fit under each other. If we are going to plan, maybe something short and sweet, like deciding what are the component parts. And at some later point, really polish those things to a T. But we can start testing some of them out. Some of the ideas. Like transportation popped up somewhere. And it doesn't fit in quote a category, but it is something that we are doing. So we are just doing it. And like I had mentioned to Haley, and it became very, very clear when there were forecast of three-digit temperatures. And I was reminded because of some of the the happenings during the winter. Safe places. So we decide on maybe three components in this type of meeting. And delay that intensive strategic planning even for future date while we do some of the things that need to be done. On behalf of the seniors, with the seniors, and by the seniors. Thank you, Jackie. I agree. Jacqueline, please. Jacqueline, I see Terry's hand up again. I'm sorry. I agree with Haley what she said. Okay. Is it my turn? I agree with Haley what she said. And I think she's doing a heck of a job. Yes. And I commend her for that. Yeah. And we are here for the seniors and the senior center. We're not just here for ourselves. We're here to work together to get the agenda, to get the help to the people who need it. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I agree. Great. And we do that. We do that a lot. You know, this board has definitely helped inform things that I have done, you know, looking at that CDBG grant opportunity. You know, again, it just takes a little bit of time for any new director to come in and say, you know, this, this is the way I think things should go. And the things that I think we should be doing are not just based on, you know, something I've pulled out of thin air. People have talked to me and said, I'm caring for my adult father and he doesn't know who I am. And how do, what do I do? Where do I go where we can just relax and don't have to feel like we're on display because my father has dementia? Yeah. You know, I can't get to my med rides because I'm in a wheelchair and there are services that cannot take me. Those are things people have communicated to me. Those are clear needs that we can address. Yeah. And I think we're starting to we're going to amp that up. You know, there's a little bit of inertia, I think with people again, you know, I'm staying at home. So, you know, why do I want to go out when I can just, you know, I've been kind of doing this and I'm used to it. That takes time to overcome. And it's certainly it takes time with our older adults. You know, change can be hard for anyone. It's especially hard for somebody in their their 80s or 90s or 100 years old. And even younger. And even yeah, and even younger. That's right. All right. I see time marching on. One last comment. This idea was not a complicated UMass level idea. I've done this with very small organizations like our own. I think it sort of points a direction that we turn our efforts. Our main job is to advise the director and it could focus that. Did you have a comment, Linda? I'd love to if it's appropriate. Yeah, I just wanted to, you know, both cheer you on and also say I really, I think the thoughtful comments you made are on point. And, and, you know, and generally, and I, you know, both the pros and the cons of the whole strategic planning is it's complicated. But two, two concrete thoughts. One is, you know, I really thought that the idea of some kind of just a single a meeting called a team building, you know, or the getting to know you meeting that it's a combination of informal socializing. And but you can also create some, I don't want to sound that I think use the word structure, it sounds a little colder, but, but, you know, a structured program where you get to know each other in particular ways that are both useful for the relationships as well as useful for the organization. So I, you know, I thought it's a great idea. And, you know, you can do those in small chunks do that in a small chunk. And certainly, hopefully you could do it outside so you could have some fun and food and all that kind of stuff. So that I just wanted to sort of frame that and suggest, you know, the team building as a word to bring that together was helpful that it offered it. The second is bigger. And, you know, I confess, I don't know the history of senior center and all, but based on, you know, my last, my recent involvement, it seems to me there is a strategic goal that is hanging over everybody's head. Is it how do you get the resources to do what you're doing? I mean, the Haley's a dynamo, you know, and I don't want to lose her, you know, but if there's something that, in a sense, guides the considerations of the future, it's really about how do we, you know, establish that connection, that visibility that, you know, that importance that it can start to get some resources from the town here. And that you're not, you know, and you're always going to burn yourself out on grants, but, you know, but you can't operate an organization solely on grant funding. So, you know, I just wanted to raise that as if that helps to kind of consolidate things is, how does that do the guiding question for whatever is what is it that we need to demonstrate that says, we are an incredibly vital part of this community, and we deserve to be treated like the library and the, you know, education and DPW and everybody else who's getting some money. So, and, you know, and then third, it's just, you know, I'm from Amherst neighbors, I am so admiring of what you're all doing. And I just really, I'm not sure I have a definition of what partnership and collaboration should look like among us. I just know I want us to support each other and work, work together and whatever that we can do to enhance. And we're also very thin on resources, human resources and money. So it's not like we, you know, we're flush, but, but whatever we can do to help each other and work together on these things. I just want that to be on the, you know, present to you. Yes, and it is I, I'm always referring people to Amherst neighbors. I say, you know, please give them a call, you know, if we don't offer something, they do, you know, and again, I think there is a certain, there is a certain section of seniors who would prefer to engage with an organization like yours, until they need an organization like us. And it's really important that they know that both are an option. So yeah, so thank you, Linda. And, and I can't wait to do the picnic. I'm really looking forward to that. Oh, we just, oh, off topic. Okay. Yep. If I can, before the end, just announce. Yes, you're on the, you're on the agenda. Okay. All right. Thank you. Moving on to Norma's report. Oh, you're muted, Norma. Hello, I'm Norma Hall. I can't, I'm, can you hear me now? Yeah, you're doing great. Okay. This is a summary of the May 11th and the June 1st of the Nutrition Council, which is part of Highland Valley Elder Services. I've been teaching for them for, for about five years now, different classes for seniors. And if you're on the board, you must be on some committees. So I'm on the Nutrition Council and they're fundraising one as well. And so first of all, they, the seniors that go for the meat, the meals, get questionnaires to answer each month. And sometimes they're filled out and sometimes people don't, you know, bother with it. But I'm just going to do a summary of the reports that are given by different people. And one is requests, what would people like to see done more? And remember, this is from May and June and we won't have another meeting till September, but they want more salads for summer. And, and that, you know, is, is a good comment. But they do try to do that and they do get local produce as much as they can. Some wanted more portions, larger portions, and others wanted more soup. But, you know, that can vary. And then Riley is the head chef and the meals on wheels are done at the Walter Selville House in Northampton, but they do hundreds of meals a day and all work really well together. And Riley is right there with them. But then they ask for comments on the food and someone said, well, we got French toast, but no syrup. And Riley said, well, I wasn't there that day, but there was a coating on the French toast that was like cinnamon and brown sugar and, you know, similar to what syrup would be. But he always tries to check on, on these things and, and see what he can do better. So he said he was not working that day. And so I guess it slipped by. And then there was a, they got a new van, but they try to put a hot foods in one section and cold in another, but for some reason, they got in together. And so the hot was cold and the cold was hot. But anyway, they're, they're working on that. And this was comments from Chesterfield. The Walter Selville Meals are at 11 a.m. in the morning. And someone complained that the food didn't arrive hot and it just comes across the room. So, you know, you can't please everybody and, and they had to look at that and why that happened. And Hadfield requested lemonade on a hot day and that makes sense, but many times the patrons don't realize that they, the nutrition, people have to go by what, what is healthy. And, you know, a big glass of lemonade is not as healthy as say a glass of 1% milk or whatever. They give, they do have to give milk every day. And so they said they would try to work, work on that. They thought the salmon with dill sauce was delicious, as well as the roasted pork. Now these are items from, that was Riley's report, but then there was items from the chef that they, they talk about usually monthly. And they started this, these global meals and that's really doing well. And what that means is a certain center that has congregate meals will ask and they will try to do an ethnic meal, whether it's something from the Ukraine or Poland, there's, there's a large Ukrainian and Russian population in Westfield. And I think that's where it could started a few months ago. And the comedy, no, I can't think. Well, it's what the, it's not comedies. What am I trying to say? C-O-M-M-O-D-I-T-I-E-S. Commodities. Commodities, that's right. Thank you. On the tip of your tongue. Well, I'm older, so just look at it that way. We'll increase the amount of chicken and they're very pleased about that because they usually serve chicken once a week, but they're going to get an extra supply for as long as it lasts. And, and they're also getting extra eggs. And that is a big thing now. I mean, in the last couple of months, eggs are more than doubled in price for a dozen eggs. And so he said, well, there'll be more quiche, which people like. And Kelly is a relatively new nutritionist. The other one had been there over 30 years. But Kelly and Riley are working together to plan the meals. And they will get fresh fruit now as the season progresses. I've got down here strawberry season. Well, we know that's over. And watermelon will be coming through more. So, and the, as more dining places are opening, Kelly will be doing some healthy nutrition promotion when she can at the site. And presently there are comments on the back of their monthly calendar, but she's not sure everybody read turns it over and reads it. So they're working on, you know, the nutritionist coming in, talking to them directly. And they tried to do that anyway. And Southwick and Westfield are going back to house, you know, house dining. And Westfield will start on Tuesdays and Thursdays. And, and just started up again and used to have about 70 participants. But this last time when the report was written was only 30. But that will change is probably the fall comes on. But people are very happy with the grab and go meals. And they would like those to continue. And this was a new note that I had hoped to say last time. But for cardiac issues, I know from their doctor, they will give them a low so salt frozen meals that are not made by Highland Valley, but I don't know where they get them from. But they're made elsewhere and warmed up and served to the delivered meals. And that's really good because, you know, some people are diabetic, some are low sodium, some are gluten free. So they're getting more into specialty meals. And they're trying to do choice meals for the home delivered ones. And so that all the drivers now have gotten new iPad or gotten iPads. And we'll be able to keep track of how things are going. Any questions? Yes, Jack. Thank you for the work that you're doing. And I know that it can be quite challenging. But what kind of meals are available for vegetarians? I know that as a vegetarian, not that I'm subscribing right now to meals on wheels, but I would visit friends and family and they have what I call the head of lettuce routine. If you're vegetarian, surely every meal you want ahead of lettuce. But creative approaches and nutritionally balanced as well. Yeah. No, that's very important. And I think people just select what they can. But they will, I think, eventually be able to do more. But with serving over 800 meals a day and the holidays are even more. I mean, it's just overwhelming. And so they tend to have meat, turkey around Thanksgiving or ham for Christmas or whatever. And they have roast beef and a lot of fish, which not everybody likes. But I will. That's been brought up. I appreciate it. Yeah, one of the choices being a vegetarian choice. And the others. Yeah. And I'm sure that I don't know what about religious preferences that some people also. Yeah. And I know you can't go down the aisle and and take the order for everyone, but at least have some choices there. Yeah, thank you. And I'll bring that up again at our next meeting. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Anyone else? All right. Thank you. People know why Norma gives a report. I've gotten some pretty crazy questions as a new director or co-director or whatever my job is called. It's the chair. Oh, co-chair. Okay. One person asked how do our decisions made at the COA? Another person said, oh, there's more staff members than the ALI. Norma gives a report because the American, the Elder Americans Act of 1964 that formed the council on aging that formed the senior center also formed the area agency on aging. So she's our liaison to that local, which is called Highland Valley. At any rate, let me take a look and see what's next. I think it's minutes. Yeah. Now that may be a misprint. If we had somebody who could look at the minutes and see that the only minute that wasn't passed was probably June. That's not true at May. At May, we pushed it back. May instead of April. So you actually, you had a question on the main minutes, you didn't, you had a question on the main minutes. You didn't like how I worded something. Or if it's like a piece that was left out of that. I don't have it in front of me though. I emailed it to you today. Excuse me. It was emailed and then in the agenda that I sent to all the council members, I did send a copy of the May and June minutes with a note that we had to approval. So that's what I'm speaking about. There was a section in there that mentioned that I wanted to do a specific item. What I wanted to do was just add to that minute what it was that I said that I thought it might be a good idea to have overlapping terms. Selectment before the card, the charter change, and possibly town council now. Many organizations have overlapping terms where instead of re-electing a new, you know, five member positions, they have two that are elected in a schedule so that not everyone like our own organization changes at the same time. So if that could be put on there, that would be great. Just a simple note of overlapping terms or mentorship. So we would need a motion to amend the minutes with that edit. So if everyone agrees to that, we need a motion and then Terry can redo those and send them out and we can approve them. So do you want me to change what I wrote? Chad suggested we change how we do this role. Is that what you want me to leave in there? No, I can word it very simply. I'm not sure I can do the motion, but it's the wording would be to consider having overlapping terms for leadership. I strongly agree, and I'll try to frame it. I was almost done, but four purposes of mentorship. Yes. Okay, I'm sorry, Jeff. No, I hold on. Hold on, Jackie. Let me get that before we go on. Consider having overlapping terms for leadership. Is there anything else you wanted? In consideration of mentorships. Anything else? Anything else, Chad? You want me to take out? Hold on, Chad. You want me to take out what's there and add this? Is that correct? No. What are you asking me to do? Nothing yet. Well, we're talking about the main minutes. Yeah. So you want me to add this in? Do you want me to leave what's in there already? No, there's a process that we're going through right now, Terry, where it's just stated. Jacqueline has some questions. There's been no motion made yet. Oh, for heaven's sake. Minutes are usually for motions that have passed and minority opinions. That's usually what a minute is for. We haven't gotten there yet. Okay. Alrighty, go ahead. Jacqueline. I was trying to focus so that I could phrase it in the way that you were phrasing it because I wholeheartedly agreed with that. And I think we had a little conversation. Maybe Rosemary and Pat and I. I would like to get your phraseology because I like the way we're talking about overlapping and mentorship for transitioning leadership. And that we give that very strong consideration in our selection and election of officers. So I would say, based on what you said, I let it so be moved. All right. Well, I may do things different than other, what do you call it, meeting facilitators. I would like to hear from everyone opposing and opinions and so on. Then I will call for a motion at the end and a vote. I'd like to have a discussion so that we know what we're talking about, what we want. In this way, we can form it a little bit different than the original poster posted. We can expand it, contract it, etc. We do have only until 6.30 and that's very atypical. So what you're talking about with the minutes, if you want to make a change, is that you as the person who's recommending that would say what you want the change to be and then there can be a motion. And I don't know that it's really standard practice to go around the room. If you're the person who's suggesting the edit. I don't want to cut Karen off either. I have a question. So are we talking about, there seems to be, to me, I'm a little bit confused about whether we're talking about non-overlapping for membership or for leadership or if it's both. So I think I heard both ways that we're going to make an attempt to not replace a bunch of people on the board at the same time. Or are we just talking about leadership? Well, we can't even do that. So that would require a change to the violence. I get that what we're all we're doing now is amending the minutes. And so that's beyond this discussion. But I just wasn't clear what the point was, but I guess that's for a future meeting rather than for the purposes of amending the minutes. Yes, but to your first point, so the appointments of the COA members, that's done based on a three-year period. And that can happen, not everyone leaves the board at the same time. So there does tend to be some overlap in that way. But that is a state standard where it's a three-year term, unless you choose to resign. Got it. It sounds like what you're talking about, Chad, is a bigger issue that cannot really be taken care of by simply amending minutes and that it's something that you can bring up at a future meeting. My point is I wanted to state what I stated. And what I stated was about the leadership. That the idea back in May or April was that we sort of correct an oversight, as Jacqueline would say, an oversight of that new bylaw, that we have overlapping terms of the change from president, treasurer, secretary, vice president, et cetera, into what I call the threesome. Anyway, that's what I wanted to say. And if folks are willing to try to remember if I said that or not, you know, we can vote on that change to the minute. So, Chad, do you want me to leave what's already in there or take that out and add this in? Just add that. Add that. There you go. All right. Is there, I don't know if there needs to be emotional in something like this or not. Yes, they're done. If you're changing the minutes that were submitted, there has to be a motion. Well, we're not changing them because we haven't accepted them yet. But that was the draft that was put forward. So if you want to change the draft, there has to be a motion. Yeah. All right. I'm not going to make one as a chair. I so move that the change is being accepted. Are there any seconds? I second. I see a couple of seconds. Third. Second. Did you get them, Terry? Yes, I did. Okay. So put it through a vote. First on my left is Christina. Yes, I do remember Chad speaking about it, about the structure of having three people versus an entire board be responsible for what happens on the board. I remember him speaking about it and saying it. It just didn't make it into the minutes. And so. That was it. We're talking about the main minutes and what he talked about with the three people was a June. Actually, we're right now we're polling people on the boat. So are you voting Christina to say yes? Yes, I voted yes. Next is Karen. Yes. Dennis. Yes. And Jacqueline. Yes. And Terry. Yes. All right. It sounds like that's as amended maybe. Yep. Next we have the June minutes. Actually our last minutes. Yeah, those minutes that you received in the mail. Is there any additions, changes or questions? I have a question. Hailey, in my June minutes, it says Council on Aging member notebook, Chad, Mila and Jacqueline are going to review the Council on Aging notebook with Hailey. It is proposed to be completed by September 30th. Oh, that has not happened yet. I've not been in touch with Mila or Chad about that. But certainly we we can do that. We do have time before. Okay. Do you remember that? Do you remember saying that? Or because I talked about the CBD too. But then Chad wanted to to re amend the member notebook. And I know you wanted to be involved. And so that's what I wrote down. Yeah, part of the issue here is that we did not take a vote on that. When you don't take a vote, we don't know who does what and who does what, when, where, etc. So we say this is why I like to do things the way I just mentioned. We discuss an item and then a motion is made and then we vote on it. Because it gets clearer and clearer. There's not a lot of amendments to the motion and so on. It's what it says in our bylaws about consensus. It's a consensus way along with Robert's rules. At any rate, the the intention that I gave at that time was just to do some work on, on the on boarding manual, the board manual, what, what, what have you. The member notebook. At some point, the town is going to have a process for all boards of the town that is an onboarding process. So, you know, and on one level, it's kind of a move point that we work on on our own manual. So that wasn't passed by a vote. You know, it's great that it's in the minute because it shows what was discussed. It's one of those cases where we didn't vote or pass anything. But we do need to put it in a record so that we can see what we're talking about and who brought it up and so on. But no, no, no action was voted on for that, Terry. It's just, you know, it was a discussion and that was our, okay. All right. So any other questions on last month's minutes or comments? I'm over the bay accepted. Any seconds? Second. Yeah, we have a second, but we'll go around again. So we'll go around again. Christina. Yes, that's that's yes. Okay. Karen. Yes. Dennis. Yes, of course. Jacqueline. Yes. And Terry. Yes. So that's passed as well. So we're caught up now on the minutes. Yes. Gas speaker. Linda Terry has some time. I see we got five minutes left. Is that going to give you enough time or would you like to hold on? But I do have a message from the friends, Linda. So I just need like one minute. If you can give me one minute then. Yeah. You want to go first or you want to? Oh, I will. Yeah. I'll keep it brief. So we did not fundraise. I'm relaying this on behalf of Dick Yorga. There was no fundraisers in FY 22. From the friends of the Amherst Senior Center. So we are trying to rectify that and get some donations into the Senior Center. And to do that, we will be doing a holiday calendar raffle later this year. So people, please be on the lookout. And when that is done, tell all your friends, buy a ticket. It's supporting a really good cause. We do need to get some revenue up at the Senior Center so we can keep on doing our amazing lineup of programs and services. So check the Senior Spirit newsletter for more details to come. And that's all. Hailey, is there going to be a theme? We're going to try to keep it local. So we'll be reaching out to local businesses for gift card donations, you know, a free massage or a free haircut, gift cards to restaurants, you know, just something to try to make it fun. You know, you can support a good cause and hopefully win something in return. And we are doing it so that if you win once, you go back in the pot. So in theory, you could win every day of the month. It's just not statistically likely that that would happen. Well, I was referencing the calendars. Many calendars will have themes. Oh, I was going to do what we were thinking of doing like a New Year's kind of thing around the holidays. So if we are selling the tickets in November and December, they're a great stocking stuffer. And like the theme could be New Year, New You kind of a thing. I did win on the Hadley Senior Center calendar twice. So you'll have to try ours out too. Of course you got it. There we go. Okay, very briefly. I want to let you know that the long awaited picnic that was scheduled for last Monday happened to land on the one day we had plenty of rain. And so we did postpone and cancel. And we are rescheduling for September 12th. We just figured, you know, for all the reasons, we don't do things in August. And so hope you all come. And we look like we were going to have a really good turnout. And our biggest issue was, of course, what to do with all the food, some of the food that we bought at Costco. And we're solving that problem. Okay, so that that the other just in terms of you, you know, I don't know if this you see this in your role, but, you know, we are also looking to expand our board. We didn't do a board recruitment last year. And of course a couple of people rotated off. And we are we really looking to expand. If you know of anybody who you would, you know, think would be a good fit for another older adult organization, please do forward. And we don't have a schedule yet for nominations and all that, but we're setting up our process. And I'll share it with you when we have the dates, target dates and everything. So I think I'll keep it at that. Okay, great. Thank you. All right. Number 10. Are there any topics that have come up in the last two days that we've not been informed about that should be considered? Not aware of it. Shall we schedule the next meeting? There there's there's something I guess it would go on the next agenda. I'm talking about proposals for safe places and spaces for seniors being able to make sure that there's something here in Amherst in the wintertime. It could be heat stations or whatever you want to call it. And when there is seriously inclement weather, like New England snows and so forth, and the electricity might go off. These are considerations. This summer, of course, it has to do with the high temperatures. And I think it's important for us because I think it was two years ago I called and was trying to track down safe places for seniors. And I was told that they don't exist anymore, that it doesn't exist. And in light of COVID, I know that some constraints are presented. But in our next meeting, I'd like that to be discussed. Can you frame it a little bit more for me, please? Jacqueline, is this, you know, for homeless folks? Homeless folks? No, no, no. If the electricity goes out, seniors have options. There's some place that's going to be safe. They don't have to be houseless. But being able to know that there is something here, some places I've lived in that has been a top priority. A resilience center? A warming center, I would say. It could be in the wintertime. It's a warming center. And in the summertime, especially when the temperatures are as they are, a cool. The way that I hear it is a discussion on safe places for seniors during inclement weather. Sounds good. That's well said. That's exactly right. There is the resilience center, which is for hurricane, snowstorms, intense heat. Northampton is going to build one. Anyway, that is what we're talking about for a possible item on the agenda next time. Sounds good. I'm looking at the calendar for our next meeting. Is it the 18th of August? Let me see. Could we possibly, because of heat and everything else, could we possibly transfer over to September and take the month of August off? How do people feel about that? Speak now or forever hold your peace. I agree. I'm okay. Three people want to meet in September when we can go in public. No more. No, that's actually not true. We cannot meet in public until March 2023. The Massachusetts State has extended the remote participation. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, anyway, we'll do Zoom meeting in September. Well, what's the date? What's the typical? Second Tuesday is our usual. Okay. Right here on the 8th of September, Zoom, I want to thank everyone for their participation and their efforts. 8th of September. Have a nice month off and we'll see you in September right here on Zoom. Very good. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Have a good August. All right. You too. Bye. Thank you. Bye.