 Nintendo 23. Oh my gosh. I actually got my math right the first time. Holy crap. How's it going everyone? We got one hell of a show for you two super big topics and then we'll take some of you guys's topics from the chat if you guys like We got about our hour and a half here to go and have a good time a bit later Start today because I had a really late start to my day in terms of getting stuff out for YouTube Just had a lot of college homework to do plus I took a massively long nap this morning That was totally unplanned So I mean, I guess I needed sleep it is what it is We got a bunch of people here in the chat Thank you guys so much for supporting by the way if you would like to support the podcast Specifically, I mean you can support Nintendo Prime in general just by being here and saying hi But if you would like to support the podcast Just head over to patreon.com slash Nintendo Rime that is literally for the podcast and other kind of shows like this that maybe happened down the line if we Hit certain goals on there. So Hopefully you guys want to show support for that. Otherwise, we're just gonna get right into it here I am your host as always Nathaniel Rumpel Jansen to my left and you guys is right is mr. Eric It's like he doesn't know he's not here for my lives very often it gets pretty crazy All right, folks, we'll take off the shades because man, are they really dirty? So I can't read the chat. I can't read anything. These things are these things probably just gave me corona virus That the dog have them in their mall is mouth or something. I have no idea. They're really disgusting All right now that I could see how you guys doing Let's get right to our first topic and this is one I find interesting because it came up in the news today That I put out so if you guys haven't seen my news video, I guess you'll get the news right here right now Diablo 2 the quote-of-quote remaster remake resurrected. I think is what it's called something that That came out on all platforms including Nintendo switch Mysteriously for like the last four to five days just doesn't work The servers are offline Now I've seen some reports of this happening on Xbox as well The PlayStation servers seem to be up from what I was able to find out from someone who I know has the game on PlayStation The PC servers are up, but for some reason the Xbox servers are kind of in and out For what the last half week sometimes they're up sometimes they're down, but the switch servers have just been down and out and the thing is Right this happens servers go down maintenance issues the problem to me isn't that the servers are down even though that really sucks And for them to be down for like half a week or more a little bit ridiculous a little bit sus Yeah, how do you not have redundancy on that, but there's been no communication. Yeah, that's that's even worse No public communication no emails going out to members because you know you have to be on their account system nothing So you can call this customer support. They'll just hang up on you. You can email them They will not respond you can reach out to them in social media and they'll ignore you pretend it doesn't happen Now this is Activision Blizzard who's obviously got Bigger things going on right now Besides Diablo 2 and I'm not just talking about the fact that they have a new Call of Duty game coming out now There's a massive ongoing lawsuit both in the state of California and federally against them so they obviously are dealing with a lot But that's still not an excuse to not communicate why the servers have been taken down This leaves a lot of fans really pulling their hair because it's possible And we don't know this for sure, but there is a growing fear Among some Diablo 2 owners on switch even though the game hasn't even been out that long That they're pulling support for switch without telling anybody while leaving the game available to purchase on the e-shot Now again, we don't know that here's the thing. I can't tell you that's what's happening It is this is strictly online game only. Yeah. Oh, okay, so I can't tell you that this is what is happening What I can tell you is people are going to think this because there's no communication. Oh, yeah, and this sucks Switch I've kind of become accustomed from certain third-party companies where switch the switch community of gamers is Treated a little bit differently than the rest We're treated as if we're children or Some sort of casual audience never mind that switch is currently the market leader never mind that for such a casual audience Monster Hunter Rise has seven point five million sales on switch And that's as hardcore of a game as it can get it takes thousands of hours To really get really really into and really far and really damn good and get all the gear you want in that game Never mind that this system launched with one of the most hardcore of hardcore games in Breath of the Wild that many of you Have over a thousand hours on So this treatment really baffles me. What are your thoughts on this? Man It just feels like another thing that's getting fumbled by game studios. I mean, it's it's I Understand. Yeah, they do have a lot of stuff going on. But how hard is it to just put out a tweet or a? Something on so Facebook or whatever out in the public that just says hey X is happening Working on it it shouldn't be that hard. Yeah, even just like it. Hey, we know the servers are down. We apologize and we're working on it Okay, but not even saying that makes it seem like no actually we just took the servers down They want to tell anyone and we're just quietly shutting down this game, right and maybe they're under staff Maybe they have a number before you still on strike or I've quit or I have no idea Doesn't matter. It doesn't take much to go a single line tweet. We're sorry and we're working on it, right? You're working on it might take months. I have no idea But the fact that they won't even give the decency Just do that leaves a bunch of people hanging now. I get it. Diablo 2 is not like the most popular game on switch, right? But it's still there and we have multiple Diablo games on switch and it's this particular one the most recent release That feels like we're being abandoned now again That's probably not what's actually happening. I'm sure there's something going on behind the scenes Maybe they didn't pay their bills. I have no idea. Oh, but the bottom line is There's no communication. Yeah. Well, my my thing my my thing is I kept wondering is this even worse than say shutting down the game What if it's oh our servers are hacked? Oh, we don't want anybody to know. So, oh, we'll just take the servers down Yeah, not say anything. Yeah, I hope the information doesn't get out, right? And by the way It's not like we don't have any reason to think that's possible because how many servers and how much of our personal information has already been leaked by Pretty much everything we've ever signed up for an account for in our hotline our lunch like literally if you put account information Credit card information all that online. It's getting leaked at some point because it's just the way it is Which whatever I change my credit cards like every year my main cards every year So it is what it is. So a lot of the cards that get sold and like cards aren't even active inside I just don't even care. No, it'd be funny if that number came back around for somebody else Hopefully they have like a different code on the back or something or different expiration dates. It doesn't line up But yeah, I have no idea. I'm assuming all these cancel credit card numbers get reused at some point. Yeah Just like just like phone numbers get reused but yeah, I honestly It's a hard thing to think about because we've just seen so many companies Not talk to switch owners or or when they do talk talk down to us, right? And you remember we had early conversations back in 2017 2018 or developers like Activision were laughing at the concept of putting games on switch Literally laughing at us and remember it's not like Blizzard doesn't have any more games coming to switch We're supposed to get overwatched to next year on switch But how can anyone trust buying it when the server is just vanished on your most recent release, right? No on switch. Anyways, and you know, I'm wondering if they just take the game down and not even say anything Is this setting them up for another like either lawsuit or you know massive people trying to get their money back for buying a game That all of a sudden they didn't Communicate that it's just not Gonna happen anymore. I mean the problem is here's the problem anytime you play anything online you agree to all these license agreements and Usually hidden somewhere in that text is hey, you know, we can get access every time Yeah, and Nintendo has a no refund policy on the eShop, so Nintendo has Waved the no refund policy as far as I'm aware twice for a third-party game But it's very rare and I don't think they'd wait for this because the game didn't just come out like yesterday It's been out for months. So But how long it had been playable how up till a couple weeks ago you said up until like I don't know Thursday Wednesday last week or something I got like it's been about a week. It's insane It's just no communication my issues to no communication. Yeah, obviously I want the servers back up people who want to play the game want to play the game bring the servers back, but also at least Say something acknowledge. They're not working. We obviously if we all know it's not working You know, it's not working It'd be really weird if nobody bothered to check if the switch servers are online Well, I mean besides the fact that hey, I'm calling cuz your switch servers are down click wait what? Yeah, I mean somebody's behind I called them earlier today. Yeah, cuz I was just curious. Yeah, so I called I call that division blizzards Publicly available line after getting tossed around if I don't like oh, we don't know what to tell you sir Have a good day click Okay, well, here's what I got to tell you your servers are down and you're not communicating with anybody At least Apologize even if it's a fake one Just acknowledge it And if you are just shutting it down because the game didn't celebrate. Well Say it But no, we're gonna we're gonna rake in that last little bit of cash that we can in hopes of people that It's coming back right it's coming back again There's been in and out issues on Xbox as well But in and out and no communication to them either so like Xbox gamers are a little frustrated with this as well Which I presume there was higher sales of it on Xbox now for a game like Diablo PCs probably were the biggest audiences, but still Those servers are up no problem. I I think you know at division blizzards given us enough to be frustrated with over the years And then obviously toss on the fact that if that any of these allegations from the lawsuits are true Which we're kind of left to presume they are because if they weren't why would all the employees walk out, right? Yeah They weren't walking out by the way asking for more money, right? That's the weird thing usually a lot of the strikes are oh, we want better benefits We want better more money, but it was just we want fair advancement opportunities. We want sexual harassment to stop, right? Okay, well all the employees or not all but a lot of them are walking out including a lot of your game directors That kind of suggests there's probably some truth in this it also doesn't help how Bobby Kotick has been reacting to it all first denying And saying it's all bullshit saying it's just a witch hunt and the federal government's involved next thing You know a bunch of higher-ups are fired. Hmm Hmm don't feel like a witch hunt to me now again We're not gonna dive too much into the lawsuit side But that's obviously something that's been frustrating consumers and making us already wary of spending more as an example After the federal suit came out I finally decided to stop paying for World Warcraft Which is why I've been looking into potentially getting into a new world, you know Amazon game and you guys can feel whatever way you want about Amazon, but I use Amazon and I don't have any problems with them So We'll get at least give it a try. I know it's been brick in some 30 90s and stuff I don't have a 30 90 so I don't worry about it But yeah, I honestly I'm just I'm kind of at a loss Or is there just nobody left that to say anything Everybody's just like we're just support We we don't have the power to say anything to you all the people that have the power to say anything Are all gone on strike. I mean, what do you want us to do? I mean, that's possibility too that everybody that has the power to say something Is not there right now? Mm-hmm. I mean, that's another option that we haven't thought of yet Yeah, I Just don't know man. It's just stupidity though. Yeah, I mean Again, I don't think it's that hard to just ask for basic things communication communication So, yeah, I don't know Also, I'm gonna throw in a bonus topic and hey shout out to I guess some people in the chat for Spurring a little bit of a conversation and that I feel like it's good because we only had two big topics tonight So we'll throw this one because I don't know much longer We really want to spend talking about this situation right because I mean we can't fix it We can't do anything about it. Exactly. It is what it is Take your six ten. Thank you so much for the two dollars. So the honest still owns Brooklyn. Apparently just as much as Roder's Roder Roder's owns the yeah, I know Yanis dominated. It was the whole box. That was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was beautiful game. We weren't even healthy Missing missing a starter still missing our six man up the bench. No big deal. Yeah, right? anyways, so There's been a growing narrative and I think this narrative is really always been around but it's really come to a head with Steam deck coming out Come supposed to come out in December. I don't know orders have been delayed forever It's on back order until like halfway through next year now. So whenever you guys get your hands on a steam deck there's been a growing narrative that the switch is a stupidly weak console For no other reason than just Nintendo's being dumb now I Find this to be quite fascinating Because at the time that it came out Because I remember it was unveiled five years ago today Happy anniversary to such reveal five years ago today It's how long ago the system was revealed released a handful of months later on March 3rd 2017 So we're almost at five-year anniversary of switch. So we're talking about a system. That's basically five years old Of course, it's gonna feel weak five years later. Mm-hmm. So let's just start there Yeah, right guess what your PlayStation 5 in 2025 in 2026 ain't gonna feel so powerful anymore Same for your Xbox series X Yeah, because technology moves that fast will be two three generations of graphics cards beyond what's happening with those systems There's already the new Intel CPUs coming out that are gonna thrash Supposedly whatever's been going on with Ryzen lately and then AMD is probably gonna respond with something next year That's gonna end up thrashing back and it's gonna end up believing all the current generation of stuff in the dust Because this is what always happens. Yeah Am I supposed to be surprised that a steam deck that's essentially coming out in 2022 is not really arriving this year So essentially coming out in 2022 is more powerful than a system that came out in 2017 Like why would that make me feel any worse about the switch if anything? It's sort of impressive That a system that's five years old which by the way Normal console generations are five to six years. So usually by this point. We're already thinking. All right What's the next-gen system coming? That's usually what's what the whole conversation in every generation in gaming has always been Okay, it's been five years. What's next and That's not really what's being asked right now There's some debates about a 4k pro and in a little bit of next-gen stuff But in general most of switch audience isn't asking what's next Because the switch is still in its peak years. It's what's next for games Right now and we already know about a monster lineup coming next year. So nobody's worried About the weakness of the system the people that are of course are one people that are buying steam deck and just Frustrated with Nintendo to people that are just frustrated with Nintendo for a whole bunch of different reasons the joy cons with With the drifting that that's a real issue the wobbliness on the original They fixed it on the oh, it's one thing that if they made the rails better Yeah, they didn't talk about that but it is factually a better rail on then on the current switch or on the switch Oh, right So like they've addressed some of the stuff supposedly maybe made drift a little less likely to happen on newer joy cons So like they're addressing some of these things for the bottom line. It's still the same, you know 2015 chipset underneath all of it and I think what's what instead of saying Nintendo is just leaving their systems weak because This is what Nintendo does We need to remember in 2017 despite it being a two-year-old chipset. It was the most powerful Gaming handheld in the world March 3rd 2017 there was nothing you could play in your hand not even a phone That was more powerful than the switch So when we talk about how Nintendo makes things weak intentionally you can't launch and be the most powerful thing at what you're doing And be considered weak Yeah, five years later a year later. It's mobile technology mobile technology moves even faster the second you and desktop The second you announce something. Yeah, but sometimes but uh, no how much how much more powerful is the steam deck than a lot a lot A lot, but how much more Paul the one thing I will give these people kind of I would say the steam deck. We don't know exactly where it's gonna fall in performance Probably around the Xbox series s level. Okay So a little bit less than that the likewise one of the biggest things that I can kind of give to these people that I can Kind of understand why they they're calling it weak is It's already been proven that the Nintendo switch can run With the processors everything at full bore Why are we why are we waiting on that's the part that I can understand why they're calling it weak? so The Tegra X1 that is using is more capable guys than what it's doing on switch and where would that fall? full full power It's it's space clocks would still be still still way behind everybody But it would be better again five-year technology get again, but yeah, but it would be better The thing is in your technology gap. We all know obviously why the the this is cut back battery life battery life. It's basically a battery life people who have hath their switch and Overclocked it a random at base clocks that the chip can run at Yeah, the battery life is shit. It drops like an hour and a half not acceptable to Nintendo They want to hit the three-hour minimum period So that's why it's still cut back because guess what battery technology? Has it necessarily improved at an affordable level? Now if you want to dive really deep in the battery technology There actually is a number of new battery technologies that just aren't being made that a bunch of companies are sitting on Because they don't think worry need it yet Which I find interesting We've kind of hit the limit of lithium batteries And these batteries by the way the new battery technologies when you if you guys dig into this on your own They're not necessarily like worse for the environment or anything over current batteries So there's no real reason not to do it except that lithium batteries It just becomes stupidly cheap to make and a lot of companies aren't gonna want to switch to better Technology, they'll be stupidly expensive right away. I think that's probably why it's not and if they last longer And if products last longer, they don't upgrade as often right now But by the way, the new battery technology can come out and just like you know only one or two companies can use it at first like hello cars right Electric cars would sure like to have better battery technology. Oh, yeah for sure But it's a situation to me where I Think that one the Tegra X1 was a brilliant choice back into but you remember this system was in development in 2015 So they used a chip that was literally brand new at the time. They were making the switch Can't get mad at them for that. They made a good choice Now problem and this is just the problem in general with the game Nintendo decided to do Nintendo came out with the most powerful gaming handheld in the world in 2017 But they called it home console That you dock the outputs to your TV that a lot of games even Nintendo games don't hit 1080p Don't hit 60 FPS Ivan on the little handheld don't hit 720p. Don't hit 30 FPS And it made people be like Nintendo advertised this as a home console Literally in the opening commercial guys playing Breath of the Wild I go go stick his dog and walk lifts it up and walks out the door continuing to play Which is a bit of an intro. I mean, I guess if you have a really well-behaved dog, you can do that, but I It's a situation that Made the switch feel like okay what makes this different is it's still a home console But you can take your games with you which is just Nobody offers that right now. We've had a number of PC like Steam Deck sort of devices come out since then But all of them being really really expensive some of them unwieldly some of them don't really work that well a lot of them Using Windows and Windows has a lot of overhead and at the end of the day They end up not really being the greatest experiences, but they're nice ideas Steam Deck is supposedly the final Potential of what that market could be we'll see it's not here yet So we don't really know if it's gonna hold up. We just know what early impressions have been of development units So I I think we're kind of stuck in a situation Where Nintendo got into a dangerous game and They still don't want to play that game and the dangerous game is they went full mobile chipset modern style mobile chipsets With the number one GPU maker in the world who now owns the CPU maker that makes the CPUs in that Tegra X1 and They have decided We don't want to do what the rest of the mobile industry does which is upgrade our internals every I Know they argue it's every year, but significant upgrades usually every two to three years in phone So say every three years Nintendo has decided. No, we're not doing that We're about to be five years in reason the same chip. Yeah, that was a little bit This is why people were disappointed about the OLED because they're like oh well Nintendo's gonna go with this mid-gen refresh route makes sense. There's a mobile technology clearly. They should be doing the gen refreshers Right, they're not So as we do that and obviously as other steam deck has come out obviously PlayStation 5 next week series X Which is a completely unfair comparison? Steam deck though. I think it's a fair one. It just leads to a situation where Nintendo decided to get involved in a game they've never been involved in their handhelds have always been made with stupidly weak hardware Stupidly weak. I mean Vita PSP. You guys remember that crap destroying the technological capabilities of the Nintendo handheld Nintendo handhelds always sold better. They were cheaper. They had Pokemon. They had the games people wanted to play They were really good for kids to get into need the processing power But now that they don't do standalone home consoles anymore Which by the way, we all know they went weak on those at least for the Wii and Wii U I know ended up being weak Nintendo was dumb The Wii U was as powerful as all the current systems when it came out in 2012 And but it's like they forgot that the other new platforms were just about to launch Kind of a misstep by Nintendo there a lot of missteps at the Wii U. Well, I love the Wii U So now that Nintendo is like look we're gonna put it all in one Tegra X1 was kind of a compromise. It's Now you need to do what's next and the thing is Nintendo's basically got two choices right now. They they we get a pro next year They extend the life for another five years, which would just be insane And just like moves on or they decide look we're still gonna do traditional five six-year console cycle either next year or 2023 We hit a new gen but the new gen will be a massive leap over the old generation Like a massive leap like more than just a generational leap Because it should be using whatever the latest and greatest partnership deal They have with NVIDIA at the time is and then it should also launch at $300 or $400 whatever price what they can get at But again, this also presumes that Nintendo goes back to doing what they did from the nest The SNES to the N64 to the GameCube or from the Game Boy to the Game Boy Color Which you can argue is what kind of like what an OLED screen is and then going to you know, obviously the game We advance and then you know all the different game We advances there were and then the DS to the 3ds the Nintendo has done this whole let's just get more powerful But do the same thing We're fine with it this time, but just get more powerful. I mean So like I don't think this is like calling the switch a week system I think is fair compared to what's available or what will be available within a year But also it's selling 20 plus million a year. What the hell do you expect Nintendo to do? You expect them to go oh, yep. Yep, we might not be getting Call of Duty or haven't gotten it this whole time Oh, yeah, we got the Witcher 3, but we couldn't get cyberpunk. Oh, you know, we can't get you know Potentially all these big third-party games in a few years. Well, what are we gonna do animal crossing? Just sold 30 plus million or about the drops of 2 and 3 which is probably gonna sell 10 to 15 million We're about to drop a new Breath of the Wild game. That's probably gonna sell 10 to 15 million We're about to sell another back-to-back-to-back maybe back-to-back-to-back-to-back years of 20 plus million Units of switch what the hell is Nintendo gonna do say? Yep. Let's just move on like I This is kind of why I support the notion of if there is gonna be a new hardware between now and 2023 that they don't just abandon the current market Expand upon it do your iPhone 6s make it your pro model that does have a Basically a generational leap in power, but only a generational not like a doesn't need to be bleeding edge But better right throw the DLSS in There are by the way ways that can make it backwards compatible I know that a lot of talk about how hard that backwards compatibility is but it's possible so I don't know in the end. I think Nintendo is fine. I don't think they made a mistake I think the only criticism you can lob at them Fifth anniversary coming up 2015 technology same price right but then again 20 plus million selling a year and It just till recently it was the top-selling console in the United States They just released a $50 more expensive version sold out I mean what as Someone who can respect business decisions that work it not dropping the price consumers has worked Not dropping the price of Nintendo games has worked Nintendo knows what they're doing because people keep buying there's a reason why they're one of the most richest companies if not the most They're there they all the console makers. They're the only ones solely reliant on video games And they're killing it. They're the richest company in Japan cash rich. Yeah, so and there's a reason for it So, yeah, we had a super chat earlier. You want to read that? Yeah? Let's go back and find it and hurry bots You you three are great This was came from vermin verbi $5. Yeah, you three are great Keep it up. I'd like to hear more from mr. Pumpkin back there But I set up for her some mean dance moves from the two of us Oh boy Wait, that's the type of box keep the shirt on that's the type of box that's going on in chat Keep the shirt on. Oh man. We had a webcam streamer. We had a yeah We had some fun. We had some fun bots By the way, I'm glad I brought it up. We do have a meetup coming this upcoming Saturday There's a link down in the description the meetup is in our hometown So I know not a lot of people are necessarily going to be able to come But if you're from the Midwest or if you're able to hop on a train really chiefly and just want to Wisconsin's pretty fun soda and I feel like this is a great time of year to come If you're from like the West Coast or like way down south, you're probably gonna think it's stupid the gold I'm gonna probably want a shorts and a t-shirt, but you guys might want to bring a jacket Or a sweatshirt or something, but yeah, come on out. It's gonna be a fun night We're doing it at a local pub in my hometown So you gotta be 21 or older Well, obviously I have some drinks. We'll shoot the shit. We got karaoke happening We got DJ of course because there's gonna be karaoke, which was at my request to have the karaoke there. So I'll probably have to pay for it And then yeah, we'll just do a meet-and-greet you guys can bring your switch We can play some switch together And yeah, just have some fun. We can play some darts shoot some pool. Have a good time Just just shoot the shit anyone that comes will be getting a free t-shirt Internet crime t-shirt. So I look forward to that as well and who knows you guys know me I'm crazy. Maybe I decide literally while I'm there who wants to win something because I'm drunk and and that's like No, no Yulia. It's Yulia approved and that's why I come up behind you and give you a massive wedgie you're going you can do that I mean Saturday Description below. I'm sure those people are gonna say bring mr. Pumpkin out. I don't know that she'd appreciate mr. Pumpkin bleeding all over her I could probably fix him by that Yeah, man, maybe but then he might just break in other areas remember we're gonna be at a bar Mr. Pumper passed around and Yulia I don't think me Yulia hates mr. Pumpkin. This is you guys are aware. So Yulia ever comes on camera You're sticking in your car, Yulia. Hey Sickening your car and you should walk in with it. Then she never know No, no, no, no, no, you put it in your trunk. So it's just peeking over her back seat So when she looks in the rear-view mirror, it scares the absolute daylights out of her Anyway, so if you guys want to come out to it, it's great I know we already have like like three people at least coming and a bunch of people saying they might come so Check it out. It's a Facebook meetup if that group like you don't like Facebook And you don't have Facebook and you want the details like where it's gonna be out here in Wisconsin Let me know just email me Nathan at the center prime net and I can tell you the address somewhere everything's gonna be And you let me know so I get a better headcount as well. I have a certain number of t-shirts I already I'm getting an order here, but I'll order more obviously if we're gonna have more people so Um, all right that being said show me moving to the goatee stuff I don't have it open yet. No. Yeah. Yeah, I want to open it. I have it You have it open. I do. Wow. So We got some game of the year stuff to talk about now. Look, this isn't if the game awards by Jeff Kealy We don't know what's nominated for that yet but We do have the golden joystick awards coming up from games radar These happen every year and this is where I remind people that there is no such thing as a definitive game of the year There's a lot of these award shows even the one by Jeff Kealy are not necessarily definitive It's just maybe one of the most well-supported ones one of the most well-supported because one the industry shows up for And it's got the in-person event with a huge audience Game developers are actually there to accept awards, which is really cool So it feels it's where it's like one of the most yeah Feels like one of the most legit ones and it probably is the leader But every game of the year award matters, especially if you are a game developer Oh, yeah winning any award from a major outlet is huge So we got the golden joystick awards 2021 and we're gonna go through some of the awards in the list We might as well not even wait Let's go straight Let's start at the time go straight from game of the year because people are already gone I want to know that doesn't tend to have anything up from game in the year And let's just say yes Yes, they do and I'm sure you guys can guess what it is. So a game radars Golden sick joy joy award. So you got ultimate game of the year And here are the nominees death loop Psychonauts 2 which is really damn good Resident Evil Village ratchet and clank. That's the new one for the part Wildermouth hitman 3 the forgotten city. It takes to Mass Effect Legendary Edition and Metroid red guys a 2d Side scrolling Metroid game is up for game of the year, baby So I'm talking about Dread and based on the games they listed. Is it a favorite? It's by the way Metacritic which you could say you don't care about but a lot of these outlets do it's the highest Rated game released this year of the ultimate game of the year nominees. Oh, I Would never guess that 2d side scrolling Metroid game that can be beaten seven hours $60 game might win game of the year. Oh, yeah Let's go Metroid I am talking about baby. I so hope it's gotta be up for game of the year at the actual Jeff Keeley awards to it has to be the Jeff Keeley So Or do you think it like looking at that list of games which some of them you know about but hat, you know Most of them you haven't played a hurdle audit, but you know, yeah We had a couple of E3 and some of these right E3 and some came out before me second eyes, too We saw the thing at so like Do you think at least for this award on this place that Metroid has a chance? I I Wanted to me. I just by the way by the way I am a little worried about awards like this when I see things like Mass Effect legendary edition on here Yeah, oh, I'm sorry. See you re-release Mass Effect again. Yeah, right How was that up for a game of the year? It's an old really re-release. I get oh up there I don't care. No, yeah, it's not new unless you completely unless it's open like Final Fantasy 7 remake We're like they just completely it's like not even over the same game, right? That's not what they did here. They upgraded the visuals They've they've seen about Chronicle Definitive Edition did and that shouldn't win game of the year It's not new I always disagree when that happens, but whatever. I'm not the one that nominates it. So, yeah You know, I've seen a couple of these games played I Want to say I hope it does have a chance but part of me is always that well Which one do you think it's gonna take it if it's not Metroid? I don't know. I've always heard just so much about death loop That's one that I've always kept hearing things is about so and all I I'm wondering if death loops gonna win it just because I don't know me as a casual quote-unquote casual fan has heard probably the most about that besides Metroid right obviously, but I'm I sit here with you More of a death because ratcheting playing get a lot of advertising that Sony on of advertising That's a little bit just something that Bethesda would bring up like all the time It takes two by the way, no, that's one of the games I've seen play it looks it takes two amazing, which again Joseph Farrar Fuck the Oscars guy He's behind that game and again every game he seems to touch is just amazing He's just an amazing game a producer and developer. We saw it Psychonauts at E3 Second off second is really good. It's legitimately good. I've played it I haven't played I haven't played Wilder myth or Wilder myth. I'm not sure how you can I haven't played that one So I don't know and I haven't played the forgotten city the rest of these I've at least seen Evil is I mean if it's kind of the same old same old it's resident evil eight. No, it's it's different. It's different, but it's I don't know to me. I'm obviously biased guys and I the most recent game I'm playing you know extensively right now is Metroid Dread still haven't beat it Don't really care savoring every moment savoring every death loving the hell out of it I am so addicted to like literally I'm playing at every night before bed And I haven't done that with the game since breath of the wild and I was live streaming it You know, you're like, well, why don't you live stream this every night? I Don't need to see you guys see my lack of skills at Metroid. Okay, okay guys Okay Don't you know go invisible slide underneath it. Can't you parry you suck? Oh, no, we suck again Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun with the game and to me. It's the most fun I've maybe ever had with Metroid so that I have a little like I've always been a big Metroid guy and now I'm having the Most fun. I've ever had with Metroid. So like I just wanted to win some supervised. Anyways, that's the game of the year, right? And see they have most wanted game. So obviously Nintendo is going to be involved in this as well. These are upcoming games So God of War Ragnarok Horizon Forbidden West which was supposed to come this year, but isn't Halo Infinite which multiplayer is coming this year campaign next year Marvel's Midnight Sons that game is coming to switch cloud version though GTA 5 enhanced edition Again another why you know why? Anyway, it's Skate 4 Elden Ring Lego Star Wars the Skywalker saga. Let's go. Oh, I've been waiting for this game for two years, right? Get it out already, right? Oh my god. So excited for that. Yeah, that one's coming to switch to yeah Legend is elder breath. I mean came over. Do I need to read anything else? No, anything else need to be said I mean most one of us. Yeah, most one of game. Oh Pokemon Legends Arceus. That's cool breath of a tube. Sorry Sorry, right as like I'm picking up legends Arceus, but breath of a tube, right? Starfield Hype game got them nice. Yeah, so Most of these games I would say are probably gonna end up being really really damn good Oh, I'm sure and if you're into like very like if you're really into Sony games You're gonna be stoked for forbidden West and God of War Like those games are really gonna resident with the Elden Rings Maybe one of the most hyped hardcore IPs out there that we still don't really know that much about Although there's been some potential the gameplay now that some people are criticizing for some reason even though it's Xbox one footage. I don't know. It's weird Obviously this Lego Star Wars game. I think potentially the greatest Lego game ever. Oh Yeah, and I would agree like if you've ever played a Lego game and enjoyed it Like this is looks so far beyond anything Legos ever done. We're gonna explain why it's taken so damn long Well, I mean and it's not in films and how massively open it is That's also probably another reason why it's planets or I never travel. Yeah. Oh my gosh But yeah, obviously for me, it's worthwhile to I don't think there's anything else that could ever top that right now Breath of Oz my favorite game. I mean this list is the this like should be actually labeled The shut up and take my money like okay when I look at this looks like who's gonna take it, okay? I Think because this is a gaming. This is a gaming outlet that Breath of the Wild 2 would probably take it above legends Arceus Because Arceus is so unknown Whereas Breath of the Wild 2 even visually some people really think it looks impressive for a switch game So I think that one Elden Ring Mm-hmm Gosh Starfield maybe I don't I don't know a starfish. Yeah, we've seen so little of it But that's what creates the mystery, right? You know why it could be it's the next big RPG from Bethesda And then horizon I think those ones are like the ones that really have a shot and you guys say oh, hello infinite I know but some people might not vote for it because the multiplayer comes out so soon It's kind of like most anticipated by the time we give the award the multiplayer is already out And a lot of these people already play the multiplayer beta. Well, it's because it's not out at the time the nominations happen Right, but it's also like but a lot of people already played the beta. We already know right so like it creates more anticipation But it's also like it's literally arriving like in a month So right I think that one just because of how soon it's coming won't won't get won't win Well, is it Marvel's coming out like well, I think comes out soon, too Yeah, although. Oh, yeah, we finally saw gameplay of it. That's right. They did the gameplay reveal a week later Oh, yeah, yeah because they sure as hell didn't do it at E3. Yeah, so that's just that's just some of my my thoughts on that Let's see here. What's the next one that Nintendo has games in the Nintendo game leader. Hold on still playing Oh, no minute. It's midnight since March 2022. So, okay next year. Yeah, so still playing award I mean, there's a couple games in here that are on switch like apex legends fortnight. Those are on switch Rocket leagues on switch. So but like that's not the switch version get people are thinking of when they think of those games Best gaming hardware So this is like console or like what's the point? It's a console warfare. What what what's the parameters on the vote? Okay, the one thing I also don't understand is Okay, you have two Xboxes on there. Yes. They get their two different consoles But the X is well, I mean it's superior over the S Why even include the S because the S has a different design philosophy But at the same point that's a good debate between Xbox and like like I don't know to me This best gaming hardware category. I don't by the way, I don't like this category because it pushes console wars through the extreme but also How are you judging this because this is a hardware? So this would mean you eliminate software from the equation This is just which? Hardware is the best they use the word best So again, I go back to the X is superior hardware wise to the S So why is the S on here? But this is what's weird about this. So you have full systems Basically, if I have Xbox X 5 put the S on whatever the S has no shot has no shot, right switch Oh, let has no shot. Sorry. It just doesn't well It's also because this is very now to what what does best mean? I don't know usually when you're talking about best hardware There's two things you think of at least in the PC world power best bang for the buck and the most powerful the most powerful is not on here It's an RTX 30 90. It's not on They have a 3080 they don't have 30 90 30 90 is better. So like it's almost like okay If it's just best spec wise well the best isn't here and then they put on an MVM ESSD so I'm looking at this and I go okay. So they're not necessarily going best in terms of what's the most powerful because then they have an SSD which is I mean Don't be wrong SSD Gen 4 SSD like absolutely. It's come a long ways, but So how do you compare this you have a singular graphics card? You have a singular MVM ESSD. You don't have any CPUs by the way, which Just so you're aware that WD Black SN 850 Well, I guess you could probably use it on a PlayStation 5 and that RTX 3080 for sure are kind of useless without a CPU Well, all of them are kind of all useless without CP. No, no, no, because they all know no, no No, it's PS 5 X series X SN switch all come as complete systems. It's like buying a pre-built. Yeah, but I guess they don't We system. Yeah, I guess the 3080 is useless without the rest of the computer. Yes, and That's the speed of the 3080 can be impacted by what harbors in the rest of your computer. You can be bottleneck Yeah, me me SSD can also be bottlenecked So Yeah It's just such a strange category now if they would have been like best gaming console hardware Yeah, fine put the s on there technically is don't think fine You place your five of us once because it's the same hard one to load on each one fine But like Fine and then that's just console wars But like you're throwing PC hardware in here just randomly like yeah a random PC parts, right? like the least you could do if I was the best gaming hardware is Look if you're gonna put PC in there because PC is a big part of game We should be considered you should one grab the best currently PC handheld device throw that on there with the IA NEO or something now steam decks on out yet And then if you want to have a traditional gaming PC grab the best-selling gaming laptop on Amazon because it is shown through steam that a majority of people play on laptop Mm-hmm, and use that is that fair to the majority of like people who like to build PCs I have a massive gaming piece of no, but it's more representative of the general gaming experience of a large chunk It covers a wider breadth of gamers and then ask which of these hardware do you prefer? Instead of saying best go by preference Do you prefer the PlayStation 5 because of how it looks you prefer the Xbox series X or S? Because of how it looks switch. Oh leg is a how it looks beat the gaming laptop because of how it looks But like it's so it's just a weird category anyways We don't need to spend any much more time on it unless you're looking something out I know I honestly just find this whole category. No, what was that laptop that was shown at E3? Which one there's a lot the one at the very end. Oh the one that they did a whole show on Wasn't a razor yeah, I think it was a razor Probably is already been surpassed by somebody. I'm sure but yeah hello you see what Apple announced dude, they're new M1 Max Pro Like Apple's finally going for power. Yeah, and it's kind of scary. Yeah granted They're charging you three thousand plus dollars for it, but I mean this is what Apple does. Oh speaking of thousands of dollars I didn't look at the bucks Think I know it's quite sidetracked for about two seconds walkie-box, but the uh, they're the still champ replica ring nine grand Well, they probably put some real diamonds on I'm sure but I'm like can I get like a fake diamond replica? Yeah, there's there's not much under a couple hundred bucks. Well, it's not a couple hundred for a fake one Yeah But there's one I they might never win it again in my lifetime I'm not a couple hundred for a fake one walking around with that bad boy, right? Yeah, buddy. Yeah, how did you get one? Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, you know I mean I happen to be like the guy at the ticket booth sometimes. Yeah work in the concession stand, right? All right, so Xbox game of the year we can kind of gloss over for now Which by the way when the when the Jeff Keely's Game Awards does their live show We're obviously covering it. We do it every year Maybe we'll make an event out of it like we did for you three do a big pre-show big post show have some giveaways Have some fun. Yeah, we make a big amount out of it. Um, it's I think he gave a date. We just don't have the award yet Let's go with it up at the Jeff Keely one the game awards.com Hopefully I spelled that right December 2021 It's a great loading screen. Yeah, well, yeah, it's actually a pretty interesting design December 9th summer night. Okay. Yeah, so I have no idea what day of the week that is it's usually fall He usually puts it on a decent day People in chatter like Thursday. No Thursday. Okay, you want to know what no people in chatter public. It's this We got PlayStation game of the year again We'll go over more of that stuff for that for the the other game awards We're just focusing on Nintendo for this PC game. Do you miss Nintendo's game here? I haven't it's right above So for a Nintendo game of the year we got new Pokemon snap Neo the world ends with you monster hunter rise bravely default to Warrior we're good together in Metro now to me. I mean, it's basically between Monster Hunter Rise and Metro Dread But I kind of sort of disqualify rise and maybe this isn't fair to them It's coming to PC now. It's not coming to PC till next year But it's coming to PC now again doesn't diminish the quality of the experience But the most recent news about the game was negative, which also makes me But what happened that there's no cross play. Oh PC no cross-saves Oh, and the running theory at the moment is because on switch They're using Nintendo's new servers infrastructure. Yeah, which has made the game run phenomenal, right? But that server is not compatible with just other servers. Ah That's the theory at the moment. This isn't actually proven got you so new Pokemon snap was great, too But it's like not only these games are bad, but to me. I mean call it recency bias but Metro Dread Obviously, I think it's game of the year. So what do you think? Well, what game understands out to you? You're not a big metro guy. So what games? No, I mean no Metroid Dread would have been probably one of my Guesses on that. I mean we're all excited for snap. Hmm. Yeah, I know I still have yet to see it. Oh My god, just let me sign into my account on your switch so you can play my games Yeah, seriously. Yeah new Pokemon snap makes old Pokemon steps look like shit. It is that good No, I'm not just talking because it's the n64 game. Yeah, it's amazing. They actually did the mad lads did it, right? Yeah, and that's maybe the most surprising thing. Hmm. It's a proper sequel. Nice. It's awesome. Nice Sorry me just get my Pokemon snap. I've been waiting 20 years for that game. All right. So is he and he still doesn't have it bastard yeah, yeah, you know Pokemon and me have a rough relationship. Yeah All right, let's see anything else The best game community I mean that's online. Monster Hunter Rise. It's gonna be a bunch. Yeah. Monster Hunter Rise is on there So, I mean, I don't think Monster Hunter Rise has much of a chance against like Final Fantasy 14. No man's sky. Destinations. But Monster Hunter Rise is more recent like all these other games are older Monster Hunter Rise is like the only new one on there So maybe it might just because it's a newer community maybe Best platformer Or best performer, yeah, I don't know if we have any second thoughts to know no Nintendo death loop True colors best audio no Nintendo games in there. That sucks dude Metro Dreads audio is great Yeah, those monsters rise mobile game of the year They won't be there because well Nintendo has mobile games, but they're not on there, right? None of there's been best game expansion Super Mario's Bros. from Bowser's Fury. Yeah Bowser's Fury do maternal so like Do we think Bowser's Fury? I mean you've played it with me No, I know you think Bowser's Fury has a shot at best game expansion. I I would hope so I think but this is a remake episode intermission, which right it might take it But yeah, I feel it felt like a whole new game Haven't seen any of the other ones so it's kind of hard for me to say absolutely But what I've played out of Bowser's Fury, it's it feels like that's what the next Mario game should be built around No, absolutely for sure for sure. Absolutely, and I agree, but it without playing or seeing a whole lot of other games It's kind of hard for me to To you know fully say anything on it the studio of the year I'm nothing notable for Nintendo besides Capcom Capcom had a resident delay and Monster of the Rise this year I've always been a fan of Capcom so kind of mm-hmm kind of a little bias there. I got bias for all Nintendo stuff, but Nothing necessarily specifically They're best indie game Okay, that's visual design. I Think it was much a dread on there, you know I'm also kind of surprised that it takes to as an honor. That's a for visuals Yeah, it's a very unique style. I don't know it does get in for best multiplayer game. Okay, so it's back to blood Just say what you have to say we didn't play in back for blood, which by the way the gameplay is great Oh, it's phenomenal. I love the gameplay, but how can you just go on go on? You know you want to get this out have put the coach for this co-op multiplayer Just online come on seriously Bullshit also, I have one complaint. I haven't had a chance to really even think about couch co-op It says the one time you were over. Yeah, then you went home. We've had home. We've had exactly we've had Yeah, we said, oh Yeah, over But I should have this Though the one thing that frustrated me was when we went to continue the campaign Yeah, now look whether you do it by yourself or you're playing the campaign with the front This campaign is just part of the game. It's obviously the standard multiplayer. We haven't even deep-goven to that yet We're trying to finish off the campaign first and then we'll dive into the rest To Continue the campaign with bots We had to look it up. It is not obvious. No, it is at all They did like it shouldn't be that hard to continue it with bots Like because when you boot up the game you instantly play with bots by yourself or the part no problem then you go to continue it when you stop playing and Why is it always looking for players? I don't want players. I want bots or I just want my friend One friend Because a lot of people aren't gonna be playing the campaign right now. Anyways, we're gonna be playing the main multiplayer modes So like yeah, it that part it by the way, it works It's just you have to go through like four different panels and different settings in the back out and go back in It's like why isn't it's just like a hey an option play with bots done. Yeah But here's here's an invite my party. Here's my party. Here's it's two people put If you feel it back for blood Gameplay wise is done But overall polish on the menu system and everything else is incomplete possible now Well, I know they did update from what I've heard. Yeah, I haven't played it. Yeah, there was an update It just updated on my system. Yeah for spawn rate of specials because Yeah I haven't played it was absolutely insane. I mean it was crazy Well, well to be fair Every level up until the one we got on where they don't stop spawning because that's the whole point of the level. Yeah That one they weren't and it was to be honest They came up a lot, but like it wasn't like you couldn't handle it Right, but then there's a level in the first act where it's just non-stop spawns You're trying to plant bombs and there's so many specials unless you're and I don't know how a single player Does it with just bots? Well, right? This is an easy that's a top rookie mower. That's a top of a piss ton of just normal Zombies, well, I mean there and I didn't care by the way that was the point of this one Which by the way if you had four people playing with you It might be a little it might be better because they're more they're better than the bots But then I get stuck on walls. They may not separate you from the group You can literally be like look we're all going you are going to go plant the bomb Yeah, us three got your back one in the front two in the back. We'll take care of that's also same plan the bomb They didn't up the spawn rate with the number of people as well So we don't know we've never played with four people so it kind of been even more bonkers having eight tall boys Just walking out from the middle of nowhere. It's fun. It is a lot of fun as much as I shit on it It's a fun game. It is a fun game. Um, let me see here. It takes two though I mean, I hope it takes to win something. Yeah, right Best storytelling not gonna see Nintendo usually on that list I think that's it. Yeah So they're up for a handful of awards to have a chance to win some of them. That's right. You're at better at least been one At least best Nintendo game Hopefully one's good. I don't know. What are your guys's thoughts in the chat on this? You listen to the audio version. Sorry, you weren't here live Get your thoughts in also this is the point where we kind of transition into a Q&A segment or a fan topic segment Where you guys can at Nintendo Prime in the chat or whatever and submit topics Paul again that which says how would you like to see the first trailer or Super Mario the anime movie at the game awards? Also the first trailer for the uncharted movie dropped today any thoughts? I haven't seen that that that trailer It's okay. I know it. I haven't I've been really busy today and Yeah, I mean there's a chance the Mario movie gets dropped there. We already know the actors Yeah, it's a pretty nice cast too What? What don't like it? I love it. Yeah, but we have to be careful. Uh-huh. You probably just cost me 500 Subscribers. Oh, yeah, because the general consensus is dumb. It's fucked. Oh, okay Sorry, no, I hate it. People think Chris Pratt was the worst pick for Mario of all time Sure people in general just apparently don't like Chris Pratt Okay, because apparently he might be a trumpet or some shit. I don't know Okay, don't really care what his political needs are literally don't matter to me I don't care what anyone's political needs are My whole thing is like when people judge whether or not they can support someone because of political leanings I'm like, so did you watch their movies worrying about whether they're a leftist or a rightist or a centrist or something else Did it even matter to you when you're watching Star-Lord with Guardians of the Galaxy? What the hell does that have to do with their job? Their jobs to be entertaining who cares about their personal opinions on politics are yeah, Jesus. Yeah That's so dumb. I hate that's what the thing I hate about politics is it's I feel like it divides Mm-hmm, and it's dumb Look, I don't care who you voted for. Mm-hmm. Ain't gonna change our friendship. Yeah, who gives a crap Not the end of the day. We don't have to agree on everything. No, I know people need to realize it's okay Not to agree like bottom line is what's Chris Pratt's job an actor so what's his job to do entertain? Is he good at his job? Yes Some people don't think he's that great. That's fine. But anyways, I think I think those Mario characters are all right I like pretty much all the pigs. Mm-hmm. I think all of them are great Everyone likes to pick for Louis. I don't know how you don't go with Charles Martin a but I do I mean, yeah, have you bothered to listen to Charles Martin a Mario talk at length? No, he's done the Mario voice like at cons for like my ministry. It's so annoying. Yeah, like it's fine in the little Like like Mickey like it's fun and like a little short burst for a two-hour feature-length film where he's gonna be talking a lot I'm sorry. Eh, no, I would literally wear earplugs Because they decided they could have went in the direction where Mario didn't talk that much Yeah, but they went in the direction where Mario's gonna talk a lot and it's gonna be a funny movie and that Chris Pratt It's elimination now. I don't know what his Voice is gonna be for because he said it won't be his normal voice Okay, interesting and he's but he's working with a voice trainer on it But I don't know what another was controversy as well because oh My gosh, we have to have controversy in every animated film that doesn't directly match the character Mario is an Italian plumber Chris Pratt's on Italian should be an Italian actor. Yeah, and it's like but the voice of Mario is a white guy named Charles Matinee who like what? Well, that's a problem too Okay I just want to say something about people that have a problem with with voices not lining up with ethnicity and all this stuff And these these characters aren't real An actor's job is to pretend to be something they're not That's what acting is Who cares? God, it's so dumb. I hate all the controversy around that stupid crap. It's like look Was it good? Yeah, I know we can argue about opportunities be good at your job and you'll get opportunities in general In general there are some studios that yeah They need to be work on stuff. Absolutely, but in general Like there's voice actors that have been chosen that by the way our other ethnicities voicing white characters nobody complains then Because who cares? Who cares not even matters? It's just oh and again, I've probably lost another few thousand subscribers I didn't Off topic sky Dennis says you know a Nintendo did the icon profile thing for the switch to the fifth anniversary of Mario So I wanted them to do at least the same thing for Zelda for the 35th. Yeah, no Yeah, I mean we're lucky we're still getting game and watch in November So they had a remind us by the way the game and watch was coming They finally released the new commercial for it. It felt like they went like oh look Zelda 35th way anniversary. It kind of works. Yeah the window Just like the anti-gravity chocolate in Congress bad for you Want to still says in general the cream always rises to the top and that's the thing like people always act like yes There could be arguably less opportunities at times for certain You know ethnicities and cultures and all that but also I don't know it growing up to me There's been a plenty of as an example Black actors that are really popular really huge and I love all their movies Denzel. Hello, Will Smith Hello, like these people rise to the top the best of the best rise Every one is a Tyler Perry. Yeah movie literally just makes exclusively Black cast rises up Eddie Murphy rises up Chris Rock right like the cream rises to the top So if you're really damn good at voice acting They're gonna care what colors skin it or what your ethnicity is because the point of voice acting is to be something You're not like I think this is what frustrates people voice acting is they feel like Voice acting that they think about animated character and then they think about an actor and how they talk and go Oh, well their voice doesn't match the character. They're not acting yet. They're just talking Now some by the way some voice acting for some characters like Cronk as an example of from the that is literally this the guy just talk at your corporate Yeah, which by the way sometimes it just works out that way that the natural voice works Yes, the voice of Patrick Starr and Spongebob literally is just that guy's voice. Yeah, like But then again There's already been talks of replacements for some of these older voice actors of these longtime characters That are completely different ethnicities but can do the voice anyways because they're acting. I just yeah I don't know. I get opportunities and I think people need to understand that Nintendo's number one concern with the mario movie Is that people go? Yeah, and so putting big names behind it are gonna help people go as well when you say hey your lead's chris pratt That's gonna drive people with movie theater. So generally Plus I gotta say chris pratt has been pretty funny on social media with mario He did like a a little preview preview scene of him as mario and it was a scene from guardians of the catholic Catholic scene What I gotta look this up. It was it was lit. He put it up on instagram or tiktok or something. It was so funny Nice like yeah, you know, it is what it is Um, I'm glad they did not celebrate zealots 35th. I would rather than delay it Thinking of a massive blow up for the on the 40th. We'll see Hopefully but never know. We'll see 40s, you know is 2026 Also, I'll be 40 because I'm just as old as it's all the series Damn, I would like to know bastard I would like to not think about the 40th anniversary think very much. Yeah, like every universe. Oh 20th anniversary. Sweet 25th. Cool 30th 35th. Yeah, thanks for not reminding me 40th. Oh Which technically means I'm no because mario's is a year before so Yeah, so it's always double the anniversaries that remind me how old I am. Yeah, um Let's see here The after for hiccup and how to train your dragon actually sounds like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that's true There are plenty of voice actors that voices that that's that they picked them specifically because that voice is the voice They wanted for that character But there's also plenty of characters where it's completely voice added like meg and family guy That is the sound of the person doing it. That's her voice Um, what's her name? Mila. Yeah. Mila Kunis. Yeah. So like that is her voice And guess what? Mila Kunis isn't a straight necessarily white skin. She's got a different ethnicity to her and meg is Prime example right there. So it's like Okay Nobody care Oh, I shouldn't say that a lot of people care. Yeah This leads me to a grander conversation about pc culture And cancel culture. No, you know, I'm gonna talk about this I don't want to talk about this for a long time and I keep putting it off Fuckle It's not gonna be a long conversation. Okay, so Reset era for those who don't know is a popular gaming forum Um that recently was sold it's split off from neogaf Long story short lots of game developers and all the stuff chat there But sort of like media members and gaming fans and youtubers and everything Um, and it recently got sold off for 3.4 million Okay, whatever sold it off to some MOBA company Who promises to not change anything it is what it is promises don't mean shit. They don't own it. They can do whatever the want um What's come up in all of this is the realization that And I've known this for a long time Something's happened in the advent of social media And that is Nobody's allowed to be human Everyone makes mistakes Everyone says dumb shit When scott the was was being canceled because he had a person in one of his videos That had rape accusations, which by the way, this video was in the works for like six months apparently So this person was in the video just accusations at the time nothing proven And he was backlash and people were actually like scott Was the one that literally had these accusations against him And cancel cultured him which he survived of course but it's like Okay, so maybe it was not Maybe it was a mistake in that moment to release that video. Maybe you should have held back that video or cut that part out of the video At that time so sure a mistake and he has cut it out since He updated the video and cut it out But people to this day still hate him because of it And I find this baffling Because this happens to me too people will bring up something I said three years ago And still hold it against me today I don't get it. I mean some of the stuff stupid stuff I said is literally Two days ago let alone six months ago a year ago 20 minutes ago. I mean Why can't This is something where I don't like bringing religion up But I mentioned this on a post earlier today to someone who was having an issue with that said You know, this isn't necessary to push religion, but there's one thing I feel like the bible got right Um, and this isn't the new testament and this is supposedly said by jesus and that is You know Roughly, I don't know the exact wording right now is let he who who has not seen cast the first stone And this was on a woman who supposedly committed adultery or whatever it was And they were gonna stoner and he said hey if you haven't sinned you can throw the stone Everybody is sin. Everyone's made mistakes. Everyone said dumb things. Everyone is imperfect Everyone has had ideologies and they're had that at one time. Maybe we're racist. Maybe we're sexist Maybe we're this maybe we're that maybe at one point when I was a teenager I said a bunch of stupid racist sexist shit. I'm sure I did And in today's society when you do that now, it's probably all over your twitter and facebook profile And people are gonna try to hold that against you for the rest of your life And I find this all to be absolutely asinine This is the world telling you If you're not an absolute perfect robot You're not welcome When these same people aren't perfect themselves But because maybe they're I don't know. Maybe they happen to be an lgbtq ai plus transvestite or something. I have no idea And that happens to be them. That's who they are And because they deal with potentially people Throwing insults their way or not accepting them for the way they choose to live their lives That they take what the ridicule other people have and start putting it on to people That aren't doing that to them Because they said something once that was just stupid or uneducated And it's dumb and this is the world that my children are growing up in where If they make a mistake and it's caught on camera or it's set on social media by them Which by the way, I'm a youtuber so even their mistakes will fall back on me They can't be forgiven And I don't know how to raise children in a society that won't forgive them For fucking up We all fuck up But on the internet if you're not perfect, it's not even just the internet. This happens politically It happens everywhere. If you make a mistake People don't forgive you They don't let go they always say the internet never forgets Sometimes the internet should forget because people grow even as adults people grow they learn You know, I like to feel I'm a more educated content creator today than definitely four years ago Maybe I'm not maybe I'm still the same idiot probably still am but It's just uh We deal with this in gaming and this all comes back to like what we're talking about like switch Oh switch is the weak console or pull up this or that people wanting to put things down to prop themselves up And acting like they're so superior to everything else and that nintendo made a mistake as if they've never made a mistake Is that the company that their fans have never made a mistake? Sony's perfect, you know, they've never fucked up xbox never fucked up never made a mistake PC hardware companies well, they've never Never made a mistake windows has always been fantastic Oh apple the most perfect product in the world. They've never ever done anything that screwed people over You've never screwed over a friend. Have you guys right? You never made that mistake You never yelled at your parents You never, you know treated a sibling poorly Oh, you never picked on anyone in your whole life. Have you ever you've never said one thing that might have upset somebody Because remember you can't even say things that might upset people That's a mistake Even if that thing might be true It's a mistake or not actually upset the person that you're talking to but the other Or other people who are paying attention for that person Yeah, like you could be in a bar talking to your friend and something you say Suddenly offend someone that's on the other side 30 people away and they'll walk up to you and try to start beef Like I'm not even talking to you. What is what? Why are you offended? Why do you care what a stranger said? The bottom line is this is the world that I have to raise children in this is the world that my gaming audience is growing up in And it's a tough one Because I try to teach my kids to forgive Because everyone makes mistakes everyone fucks up My god knows I fucked up a lot I just try to do a little better every day So I don't this is why I hate cancel culture This is why I hate judging people based on singular things they've done now if there's a pattern of behavior, I guess But even them they can still learn from it as long as they can admit to it at some point they can still learn from it I don't know. What are your thoughts there? I don't know there are some there are definitely some things that Need to be canceled because yeah, they are wrong There are times where cancer culture does go too far and cancels things that are you know Why are we canceling this? We just brought up like just prat like yeah Okay, so maybe by the way, we have no idea if he voted for Trump. He never actually publicly said that he did Yeah, he's actually avoided talking about politics publicly It's because of one little thing he did where people are like, oh that little thing you did that's that's mega that Why why do we have to paint people like that? I got newsflash for you guys not every person who votes republican is a bad person Not everyone who votes democrats a bad person What political leaning they are doesn't by definition make them bad Yeah, that might be hard to hear What the What political leaning you have has nothing to do with your character as a person I know it's shocking Let's put it this way both both sides of politics have their fucked up morals And we're just we're just along getting dragged through the shit. So pretty much. I mean There you go That's my thing. This isn't me, you know, as Eric said sometimes there's absolutely things that should be quote-unquote canceled Um, there's always things that are pretty definitive murder. That's pretty long. Probably shouldn't do that Probably should go to jail. We should be canceled for that. Yeah. I mean you kill someone. Yeah, you don't deserve a following Anyway, that's just yeah, there are lines. You don't cross child abuse, molestation rape. There are lines. You don't cross but even allegations Can we wait till they're proven Johnny Depp was canceled Turns out it was the x that was in the wrong Not johnny depp and it's johnny depp that can't get a job anymore Because everyone just instantly believed her because she's a woman including the judge despite the mountains of evidence And now in all the counter suits that's coming out. Oh, yeah, he was innocent this whole time Now granite probably wasn't innocent and everything. He probably raised his voice You know, he probably you know takes two to argue Welcome to relationships But turns out. Yeah, he didn't actually abuse her Not in the ways that she was claiming she didn't actually donate the money That she said she was gonna get from the lawsuit. Well, it looks like she was lying But guess what johnny depp still this day can't get a job And lost all of his current jobs can't be on the next fantastic beast anymore Probably won't ever be jack's marrow again Even though they want to make more pirates movies This is what I mean It's fine to question When accusations come out And evidence is presented. It's like it's fine to maybe even air on the side of caution Activision blizzard not lots of evidence has been made public the cosby suite. We have literal images of the cosby suite. So like We have some public evidence that some of these allegations against activision are most definitely likely true And to air on the side of caution is one thing to go past caution Yes, and like like wait till things bear out Like even in the NFL the shan watson right now has a bunch of allegations from a whole bunch of misuse people That he sexually harassed them and someone didn't actually rape any of them. So I guess I don't know how much you credit credit that Oh, no, he didn't rape anyone. He gets still sexually harassed without doing that. Yeah, but The thing is he also has a number of them coming out saying he didn't do that to him So, yeah, here's the thing I presume there's probably some truth But I don't know and let's wait till it bears out the facts bear out The case is I don't know whatever happened. Maybe we could settle it on the court I don't know, but wait till everything's done and then pass your judgment then if we still don't have a definitive answer Find feel your certain way Just like michael vick dogfighting You always like people who are massive in the pets are always going to feel a certain way That michael vicks a piece of shit Doesn't matter that he's done advocacy. Yeah, doesn't matter all the donations He's done and the good work he's trying to do sense to make up for it and admit to his mistakes Bottom line is he made those mistakes. Nobody's nobody's allowed to grow from some because especially in this case Things died because of him. All right. Yes I get it. Yeah, no, but society has deemed That pets being killed is not the same as killing humans. I think that's probably the correct way to put it Even though we're all animals so I don't know. I think this is just one of those situations That people need to stop being so damn judgmental as the bible says That he was not soon cast the first stone if you have never done something wrong Go right ahead and blow everyone up Probably haven't done, you know, by the way Probably haven't been innocent since you were a baby but I mean theoretically if you believe in original sin, you're not yeah, but when you're a baby You don't know any of that stuff. So yeah, but technically you've no sinned Technically, you're just carrying the sin of some of somebody else. Yeah That's all that is and then your memory baptized and it goes away. Yeah, magically magically So like I don't know again. This isn't me chastising religion or anything. I still believe in god and all that I'm just saying that when it comes to the bible, I feel like it got this right So I can be harsh. I have made judgments. I have put judgments upon andre from The game explained right upon Philip muson who plagiarized at IGN. I have given my opinions But I have also and some people noted this in my coverage of the game explain stuff Been respectful to the other side saying hey if I was in his shoes and I'm a youtuber. I'm running a youtube channel that's growing. I get to millions. I have multiple staff I'm sure I would be making mistakes too Because I've only ever managed volunteers. I've never managed people. I actually pay So how do I manage paid people and balance that with myself and my family and what I got going on? I haven't had to worry about that yet and it's something I'm going to have to cross someday Hopefully maybe I guess I shouldn't presume I get big enough to worry about it But if I do You know, so like I was trying to be understanding that. Hey look, he's never been in this position until the select There's growing pains going to make mistakes Sometimes he's going to get full of himself. So do I So and people applauded me for being like hey, at least you're being reasonable and like yeah, because I understand the other side I might have my opinions that this is wrong or this is wrong But also I could kind of see how it happened That isn't necessarily intended to be bad an intent matters Like Philip muson I don't know how much to believe about what comes out of his mouth But I do Have a fundamental belief there was no intent to hurt anyone I think he's just incredibly misinformed And doing what benefits him without thinking that hurts other people So I think there's part of him that probably knew what he was doing was wrong But he also didn't think it hurt anyone or that he was going to get caught Because you don't think that until you actually do so yeah, I So like I don't understand how he ever thought it was okay I know is what his public explanations are, but I can also fundamentally understand, you know, not everybody's me Or thinks like me or thinks like you And thinks that what they're doing even if they're like when people steal something to pass a college course They think well, this won't harm anybody Because you're not thinking about who does it harm the person who originally wrote that paper that someone else has came And credit for it It might not seem like it in that moment when it could come up later in life where suddenly they get discredited In and something they're doing at work because their paper cropped up in a college system by another student And they start to think they've plagiarized Yeah, or The fact that you know in monetizations sometimes, you know, you rip somebody off the views that you had Or in the youtube sphere the views that you had Should have gone to should have gone to That I'm not that happens all the time On youtube you can't make people go watch something at somewhere else. So if you took something blew up on your channel Both views and that money don't magically appear in the other person's channel the other person's thinking of um So it is what it is Um Varum Verbi says is about to announce his candidacy for governor of Wisconsin. No, not that I got no interest I hate politics. I don't want to play the game of politics. I Because it's a game Yeah, I'd rather play a fun game. That's not a fun one. I lose because you can say oh, it makes a difference I get it, but I lose because I have morals I'd be honest and my my fiance would be honest. Everyone would be honest in my campaign and that's why we lose, right? Exactly Nate, why haven't you lost all your weight? I enjoy eating food wrong Wrong, you can't be governor. You might die. Okay. Cool. That's cool. So like hey, I got this idea on how to balance the budget Yeah About that. What's your idea? Well, I mean first off. I'm looking at these extra expenditures I'm like cars and things we don't really need that you already make $150,000 a year as a senator for the state You don't need a car budget. Yeah, right So I think we can just the normal work. No. No. No. No. No can't do that. You're out Normal working person pays for this this and this so you guess what you could pay for like look you can have your health insurance That's fine. But like the health insurance should extend to like Everyone in your family of like seven thousand people like I'm just saying they're not working here. Your immediate family should get the benefit and that's it No wrong wrong wrong. You can't get in Besides you can't get into politics without money anyways You've worked so hard. Yeah, I know mr. Beast would be hilarious if he ran He might be able to get enough money to run might and he might actually have enough following to run to run. It'd be hilarious It'd be hilarious I wonder if you would like run just gives away this gives away the freaking governor to real house Yes, they're like, wait, so I run the white house, right? Well, I just passed the bill where hey, I'm giving this house away to someone Yeah, right, right. Just just I just gave away the white house. Could you imagine that youtube video? I think it would break the internet Um, all right Anything else we got? I'm just checking the chat a little bit. Yeah, it's kind of later, Alexis, um Kind of golf on the rails on the cruise. Yeah, that's all right. I mean Neil got said that Christ was crucified on the cross and I forgave his own his own people while he was on the cross Yeah, I mean he kind of forgave everyone. I mean presuming that everything's true He forgave everyone Before it even happened to be honest because he already knew what was going to happen But but anyways, this isn't about a religion debate. Uh, what's the story behind blizzard? I think I missed it um, basically diablo 2 is Shut down on switch right now with no explanation and it's been almost a week leaving us all to wonder why um Better elections is hey, I agree on politics a co-worker I've worked with Uh, their brother ran for a member for a golf position in town and they said they'd have Through shady deals to stay in the running. I mean, that's the way it is. So it's all ran by money Oh, yeah, and like it's just that I I've only once ever On because of family members try to get involved a little bit in politics And I once I realized just how much of this just revolved around money money money money money money I'm like this is just things and yeah Yeah, there's a reason why all most all of congress is millionaires if it's gotten by the way it's all sides Yeah, there's no so yeah, that's any better when it comes. It's all ran by money. It's all money All lobbyists. It's all shady dealings. It's all backdoor conversations and it's just um Miles says thank you for the facts tonight. Is it me or has nintendo been on fire these last months? Normal heroes three direct cast list ac Yes, someone else like the cast list Um animal crossing dlc dread switch old ed crazy. I mean they've had they've had a pretty good year Let's end that with the shot then we also have taker 610 earlier that we missed $2 Christopher judge is not a Spartan demigod Got it. We'll do a couple shots for you here. We'll close out the stream Thank you guys for coming tonight by the way. I appreciate it. I know I didn't have to set up ahead of time Wait, speaking of yee freaking. Did you see that Kanye changed his name to yee? Yeah What I mean, it's just like Chad Johnson going to otrosinko. Well, I realized that but yee yee. Really? Okay You can walk around me like I am yee No, it's probably so you could copyright that so nobody can actually say it anymore No, I think it's album is named that I'm pretty sure it's like all around promoting this album. Got it, but Kanye is Kanye. He's just Yeah, some weird things should he be canceled? I don't know. Sorry. I mean he's decent as an artist. Sorry. Don't you mean yee is yee? I'm going to eat this guy All right I think that's what we're doing and if you want to catch the audio version of this Or future podcasts because you can't tune in, uh, you know, and you don't want to watch the video version You're at the gym or whatever. Uh, check out iTunes Pretty much everywhere podcasts are heard. We're on everything. We're even on Spotify. So um, there's that Thank you guys for tuning in. Uh, I don't have a guess. Oh, it's yeah Yeah, whatever. Okay. Okay. Anyways, uh, we don't have a guess for next week at this time We'll see what happens. Uh, we do have potentially destiny FOMO coming out next week next next month um, she Uh, we've been talking behind the scenes and she definitely wants to be on one of our episodes in november So that should be cool. Yeah, I mean I sleep with the pokemon and everything coming out that should be fun Uh, so hopefully you guys look forward to that episode. Otherwise folks This is the Nintendo Prime podcast. It's been fun. It's been real and we'll catch you in the next one Yeah All right