 How am I? Do you believe Peter's apparent disapproval of cosmetics is rooted in Enochian material? All right. Well, I have to assume that the verse here is first Peter 3 verse 3. Let me just read that Peter says Do not let your adorning be external the braiding of hair and putting on a gold jewelry or the clothing you wear You know the verse actually doesn't refer to or mention cosmetics I know it often gets used this way, but it actually doesn't mention cosmetics It's the braiding of the hair certain items of jewelry clothing You know think think about what the verse actually You know actually says I mean let's just let let's just keep reading. Oh go back and read verse 3 again Do not let your your adorning be external the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry or the clothing you wear So again, does it really demand that women stop braiding their hair? Is there a command in there to stop braiding your hair or to stop wearing clothing? Is Peter is Peter commanding women to stop wearing clothing or jewelry? No, it warns against those things superseding Beauty to look at verse 4 But let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit which in god's sight Is very precious now the point is that we shouldn't read verse 3 without reading verse 4 And the other issue again besides, you know, or I should say that the real issue in these two verses versus 3 and 4 Other than you know sort of just being a shallow person shallow woman here Was the idea that you know, we need to cultivate what's inside Versus cultivating what is outside things that people see You can say well, Mike people see cosmetics too. That's true. They do it's just it's not in the verse You know, I don't I don't write the new testament. I just read it It's not in the verse And I don't see a command to stop braiding hair stop wearing clothing and stop wearing jewelry What I do see is Peter's concern that these things should not Be the basis of your identity and you're and you're you know, just Not only your identity, but of course, you know who you really are which I guess is another way of saying your identity But rather let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart Now when it comes to inocking and stuff, you know, we know just because of what else Well, what's actually in the enoch passage that enoch condemns We know that The the list that you get in enoch is really angling for something that transcends the lists that he actually gives us For instance in enoch the real issue with The jewelry and the cosmetics, you know, enoch does mention cosmetics even though the passage in peter doesn't include that What's really his his concern is You know seduction its immorality say well, how do you know that mike? Well, look look at what else is in the passage Back to first enoch eight one. We read this in an earlier episode Asa el taught men to make swords of iron and weapons and shields and breast plates and every instrument of war Let's just stop right there In case you hadn't noticed the Israelites use weapons in their battles He in the conquest under joshua they're using swords and shields, okay they wouldn't be doing that with god's blessing if The whole idea of of of, you know, how the watchers corrupted humanity Was only taken In this sort of rigidly literal way I mean if it was, you know, hey, you know This is what the watchers taught people. So we are never making a sword. We are never making a shield We are never making a breastplate because if we do that then we're going along with with with what the watchers You know wanted in human self-destruction Okay, the larger point is violence It's warfare It's shedding of blood unjustly And wantonly it's killing it's murder Because these are the instruments of violence and bloodshed They're they're perfectly, you know, welcome to create these things and use them in a just manner In a way that god would want them used in self-defense or you know, in this case in the biblical case taking the land You know the whole thing about targeting the anarchy and all that okay There's there's a there's a good use And there's an illegitimate bad use But but to just look at the items like a grocery list Then if you're doing that the only way to obey them is to eliminate them entirely. You know, they have context There's something that that that's being aimed at here. So when first you knock eight continues Assel showed them metals of the earth and how they should work gold to fashion it suitably And concerning silver to fashion it for bracelets and ornaments for women And he showed them concerning antimony and eye paint in all manner of precious stones and dyes again What's really what he's really going after here And this is the way that the second temple jewish community interpreted, you know, really across the board Is that these things Lend themselves to potentially and you know in the in the lives of many people Being seduced, you know by by the woman who uses these things. You know, this is why, you know, Certain women, you know a bad character would do this again to seduce a man It doesn't mean that you can't find ever a legitimate use for this But here's where peter comes in. Well, even if you can this should not be your identity Your identity should be in these other things that god values The things that god really cares about, you know, to be honest with you The only way to really kind of understand that the mentality here the approach to this whole watcher, you know, teaching idea Is to be familiar with the fact that there for all of these things. There was a good alternative There was a there was a good legitimate knowledge of these things as well And to understand that all of that is traced to second temple traditions about inock Enoch is viewed and cast in the wider inockian literature As the rightful dispenser of divine knowledge over against What the watchers taught people in the same spheres of knowledge The easiest example is probably the knowledge of the heavens. Okay For second temple Jews. Enoch was the astrologer slash astronomer They didn't really make a distinction between those two terms like we do in the modern era Broadly speaking. It's the idea that god or illegitimate gods Can communicate through the heavens, you know that you you would it's it's a it's a form of divination All right, where you look at the heavens and then you interpret them. Okay, that's that's astrology Well, there was there was a legitimate thing about that That jews viewed as Enochian Enoch was the one who went to heaven was taken to heaven by god He didn't see death and if you read the inockian literature Enoch is like the the astrologer astronomer par excellence. This is where the kumran is seen again This this is why they derive their calendar From, you know inockian material because Their study of the heavens revealed the mind of god in its perfect order and precision And they assigned all glory to the single god of the bible the god of inock Whereas what the watch your traditions are doing is no All of these celestial objects are in fact, you know divine beings and you need to follow them not their creator You need to you know, it's idolatry There are two sides to the to the astronomy astral theology coin One is evil and idolatrous the other one is not and it's the same thing with all these other technologies There are two sides to them You know for if I could go down the the astronomy path a lot because i'm still working on this astronomy astral prophecy book but Abraham in second temple tradition was viewed as a master astrologer astronomer Why because he and again the teaching was that he inherited his knowledge from inock You know, he he knows who created the heavens and he knows, you know, what they're trying to communicate You know the the the the ascenes and other jewish sex would have viewed, you know, Abraham as someone able To parse what what was happening in the heavens correctly You get this as in heaven so on earth and how the stars are worshiping, you know god up there And that's how we need to worship down here and god's sort of, you know Giving us hints about what he's up to and and and how god is propelling time and human history All of this derives from astronomy and the jewish second temple tradition Abraham was a master of this now the bible never says that But this is the idea again. There was a good source of heavenly knowledge Of forbidden knowledge of special knowledge. There's a good source. That's ina And there's a wicked source. Those are the watchers so if you don't have any frame of reference for Both sides of the coin Then when you go back and you read something like first inock eight It's like well, we should just be not we should just be throwing all this stuff out Well, there's a reason why Israelites and jews didn't because they did have both sides of the coin in their head There's a reason to have weapons Okay, they're it's okay if our women, you know, braid their hair and and wear jewelry but but Wanton violence and sexual seduction are bad. That's the bad side of those The coin, you know for those things so each one of these things, you know medicinal herbs What Israelites, you know forbade the use of of using plants for healing. No, there are passages in the old testament where they certainly do that But if they're producing altered states You know, if they're if they're the pharmacopia kind of variety, which paul talks about that's bad Okay, it's good and it's bad. They're two sides of the same coin and we often lose this Because we don't get deep enough into the content again Psalm 19 the heavens declare the glory. We're just reading the first four verses of psalm 19. There's like 10 verbs of communication there This is why paul quotes psalm 19 four in romans 10 18 In response to well, you know This whole notion that everyone should have known that that the Jesus had come that the there was a birth of the divine king and his proof text for that is psalm 19 four You know, they they have their heads in this material But there are two sides of the coin and so we need to be careful to to kind of Again become familiar with that. This is why I say, you know, usually in my talk about should enoc be in the canon No, you know, we Who cares what kind of status it has You should read material that biblical writers read because if you read that material and you understand it You know, you you you get a certain feel for it Then you're going to be able to be a better reader a more intelligent reader of your bible And it's it It's kind of that simple, but yet, you know, that requires work. So it's not an easy task. It's a simple task But not an easy one So consequently, I would say it's not coherent To say that first enoc eight or first peter forbids all jewelry or cosmetics or colored clothing or dyes the use of dying You know, we should all wear white, you know, I did no it doesn't forbid these things Can we'd all be in violation? You know, as with the builders of the tabernacle they could they died their fabrics You know, didn't they know about the watchers they sin they're following the watch. No, that's ridiculous Okay, just like the israelite army isn't following the watchers when they're creating swords and shields, okay We would all be in violation as would most of everybody else in the old testament that god, you know Blesses and honors and says nice things about it's not an all or nothing proposition There are two sides to this two sides of the coin. So I think that We need to keep in mind when we're looking at passages like first peter three and and and a few other ones too