 Happy to have you back for another episode, which happens to be the 247th of Tintek Hawaii's human human architecture and you are about to be our 13,150th viewer, which we are also very happy. And we is broadcasting live from the contrary sides of our globe from Honolulu, Hawaii with you, DeSoto Brown and your Bishop Museum, hi DeSoto. Good day. And me on the other hand near Munich, Germany. And we are broadcasting again under the circumstances of the unprecedented challenges of times of climate change of coronavirus cases are going up all around the world again. And we have civility under threat and a multitude of ways. There have, you know, always been wars going on, even when we don't think about it and talk about it, but there's one that's fairly new that's close to me here geographically in the Ukraine. And we also have a war talking about this show DeSoto being human humane by nature. Again, killing anyone else is bad. But when it's affecting the very youngest of us, that's particularly tragic, because they are the most innocent, they're born good. And also the future of our world, you know, relies on them. And so this is really, you know, stupid to begin with and very, very tragic. And this is what has happened in between us on the continent or us down there in the south and Texas with that tragic shooting and we can bring up the next slide that we dedicate to that. We've been talking about that last week already, but we have a viewer question that came in after the show that we want to read here. And the question is, are there architectural features that can build that we can build into our schools that would perhaps lessen the risks of shootings or what would increase the likelihood that intruders could get caught quickly. And what are our thoughts about that DeSoto with a slide here. Well, we look back to obviously the first such shooting which made a huge impression back in 1999 was the Columbine High School in Colorado in which two students massacred other students. And there are different ways to approach this but one of the biggest problems in talking about the design of the schools is, that's not the cause. The cause is individuals with easy access to gun is the main cause, which is not to say that crazy people in other countries don't go into schools and stab students to death because they do that as well. It's not as efficient as gun. So, that is one of the major points to bring up, first of all, as we even think about this entire situation now, this is not to say that we can't ignore the concept entirely and you put some some images up here from particular architect or actual firm which has addressed this to a degree in terms of how to make things more difficult for shooters now one of the other things that's come up in this recent discussion is that not only well two people, let's say on the right of the political spectrum in the USA, have complained about school design as being part of the problem and one of my points that you and I discussed before the show was, it's not just a matter of making schools more fortified with one entrance exit that can be overseen for security, because schools, as with any group any building that has large groups of people must have multiple doors for emergency exits, regardless of the reason and it's not always because of a shooter it's because of earthquakes, because of fires, because of tornadoes and hurricanes, people have to be able to get out so it is not possible to build buildings with just one entrance and exit, where you are going to have hundreds if not thousands of people inside at one time. I have all good points. My dad chips in when I discussed this with him he basically said, oh, this is what, you know, not saying that our viewer is having that same point but he said this reminds me of Trump was also saying that and then he said there's some parts left from his border fence to Mexico that he wasn't completing maybe he wanted to repurpose these two fortified schools more. So I yeah what we're talking about is that we're kind of suspicious of basically fighting the symptoms. It reminds us a lot of like the former surgical industry that you know doesn't want us go to the cause because it puts them out of business right they want some medicine that makes it a little bit less painful, but you know want to keep them in business or the other challenge of climate change is like the building industry says oh make things more resilient, make glass stronger, but then you put out more CO2 through more effort of construction and production. And so that is a vicious circle. So as you were indicating maybe it's worth to go down to the root of things. You've been talking about in my father obviously living, you know, three houses away from the Villa Cheta hand which we've been talking about which is sort of helped fueling us Germans obsession with the good cowboy that you know is the guy who brings justice out there with his gun that seems to never really have gotten off that trip that we discussed before the show, maybe the pioneering days out there by themselves with all these other outlaws who try to find their luck there and fighting over the few gold crumps that there were in the West, you know maybe that was necessary, if so, but that's been then, and now is now so one should have basically become more more civilized but you said you know, in Germany there is also this sort of romantic idea of that peace bringer with with a gun with a weapon. However, I have to say, again, to get a gun here in Germany is significantly more complicated than it is in America so if we're saying, and you know to say, you know, it's an animalistic kind of a temptation of, you know, want to use a gun I think that's an offense to animals because animals, you know, only, you know, do something to other species when they need to when it's for surviving. And they usually don't cause harm just out of pleasure or just to dominate others it has a very very clearly defined reason for that. So if the human nature seems to be different and then there is this bad thing in us that we need to suppress then potentially culture needs to do that by laws and just say then don't give people this access unless they have proven to be worth and trust worthy of carrying a weapon, which you have to go through a serious you know background checks and trainings and stuff like that and then you have. So that's the thing first of all but then gets to the next slide because then how can architecture that respond to that. Well then you don't need to protect yourself be so preventive be so fortified anymore right it's like you said, you can actually have more doors versus less. And doors have the side effect of getting out in case of fire as you said also doors have the chance to get you out into the outdoors which is great. And if like this building here which is that school cafeteria that you know, the Columbine shooting having happened in one so this is the same typology. There's lots of doors because this is a biochromatic building this is not air conditioned so leaving the doors over is actually a good thing and not a bad thing. And you know what else have we talked about the project recently came back in a faculty review. You know discussion we had that we also talked about the solo that we should introduce more exoskeletons to our tropics, where you have the building skin, holding up the building at the same time keeping the building cool. And to that degree this project is probably the most that will also work. If you replace the fixed glazing with these glass ball Han triple pane, the passive house louvers or screens. If you replace these, then that would be just as fine is in Hawaii. But, you know, we talked about planet brightness to that regards but let's go to the next slide, because maybe at this point it's more important to talk about people And that is something that we said, instead pouring money into fortifying your building and try to, again, I mean, if, if a shooter is in the building as this tragic case had shown, and until the special task force finally came. Too much time passed by and the shooter had lots of time to continue is his evil thing there. So I think the key as you said is actually getting out of the building as soon as possible. So making the building as open as possible, versus closing it up and locking it up as easy and you said if you're like having all these walls, then creditors can hide behind or find shelters so it might actually be in their benefit. That's right. That's right. It might actually be really counterproductive. And you know that the closest getting us slowly but surely back to to America. The closest I ever get to that, since we're revisiting the, the hard land in America, which we will on the and on the next slide again as a show quote. My experience from the prairie was when I was jogging in the morning and I jog by and I found a wallet on the street. And it was close to a car, but I wasn't sure if it was really the person in that car who lasted so to be safe, I basically walked over to the school next door. And I was in my, you know, that's temperate climate it was like spring or something still cold so it wasn't my jogging, literally jogging stress for jogging reasons, and I was jogging into the school with that wallet. And guess what happened to me. Well, you got confronted by a security guard because you look suspicious. And we are all on edge even back then we were on edge with the possibility of school shooting or school intruders or people coming into schools to do harm to children so you got. I don't remember if you actually were taken down on, he took me down. He took me down. Yeah. Yeah. And it needed a lot of arguing on my side to saying I'm here for good cause to drop this wallet off and they believed me and let me go. And that was really the closest I ever got to that. And again nowhere, even in any kind of discussions with any clients and we had a lot right in educational buildings we ever had discussions to that extent. But we have discussions about the abundance of daylight, the abundance of fresh air in the building we in this one here. The question is what do we serve what food do we serve and you see this plate which looks pretty yummy right Don't be sad there are some German sausages in there as well besides all the, all the good for you, you know, vegetables of course but there's some sausages and there's some salad and there's there's a fruit there. So if you eat healthy, you breathe healthy, all your senses are activated in a positive way. That's a really good condition and circumstances for actually well being as we call it right. And we think again, people just keeping people away so if they get angry, they can shout, they can do whatever and sometimes there's a fist fight, but that's going to not be basically detrimental right. It's not going to kill a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, but but I would also point out to that visual access to the outdoors. It's also part of the health aspect. So rather than being closed in with solid walls if you can look out doors in the sky, see trees, see clouds, that also is very good for your mental health. And we talked about that before the show to try to improve mental health away from anxiety and depression into a better outlook. Yeah, and that's not as visible here because we're focusing on the activities and events in the building. But the goal of this building was to basically dematerialize it in the park. The spin off means fundamental is universal space with a column free space that is just basically flush with daylight, you know, to the max to the south and to the east, only to the west where it overheats you got that servant wall but that wall is clad with woods also a very warm material. And so you see at the bottom left is the original of the prime use as a cafeteria for having your lunch, then above that is basically when you can use it for an event. And so they're lined up in a row and listening to the event on the stage. And the very top left picture is pretty much a different use this is for a communal event as for an election for, you know, the discussion here political party discussion so again, there's spaces and places engage people in a positive way. And just like the kindergarten does it with a very young terrestrials as Mrs. Savitsa here as well because, again, the guy who was the shooter was 18 years. He was not, you know, technically not a child or a teenager anymore. Well, he's, you know, in Germany, at least legal age in America is still 21 but in Germany is 18 so you're an adult right. So again, these these are all thoughts and hopefully they, you know, help to answer the question from our point of view, but also getting back to our typology of dwelling on our islands and it's struggling. If we can get the next page up who were saying, you know, even people in trouble and with mental illnesses and potential predators. The schools is where they sometimes, you know, as in these cases tragically execute their, you know, their banger and let it out but that's maybe not where it only comes from because they also spend time and other places and spaces. And so that gets us back to and don't get us wrong. We're not accusing the architects of the developer of doing this intentionally. But this is again the project that we stopped looking at last week, which is on P. It's up towards the mountains, and it is social housing. We give it that. And when you look at the price of a unit it's not quite as we show quote top right. My century hours and Lincoln Nebraska where you could get a one bedroom however a small one 450 square feet for a 620 bucks. And I know that I see that in your face again you still wouldn't trade it would want to trade any anywhere on the island with that. Because again, for most of the time, you have to be in there and you can't be outside and then you get at least at that point maybe right now but then you get that ice on the millions there so there's a reason for why paradise is paradise, but to keep paradise paradise also for all people. That's what this developer he wanted to do so bottom right is again a unit here is studio is available for 1177, but on what expense the cell. Well, we've been looking at this building from the standpoint of how livable it is and basically what we see is a lot of exposure to the sun without any way to let natural air in air movement in so that when the sun is coming in you are inside your room through all that glass. The only way that you can keep yourself cool is by using an air conditioner which means that you are using fossil fuel to run the make the electricity for your machinery. So there are a lot of discussions that we've had about how do you make buildings more livable how do you cover things up how do you deal with the fact of the sun coming in and living in a hot humid environment much of the year and this building doesn't really address that as much as right to ignore that, which doesn't mean that the living experience is optimized to what it could be and should be in our environment. Absolutely so so to illustrate or to explain more what we see at the top left is a unit that you see the mountains. So this must be north facing Malca. And again, this is where it doesn't have to worry about overheating that's good, unlike its sibling, a century house in in Lincoln Nebraska with the over iced mullions. But again, the single wall unit AC thinking about what impacts people right, how do you feel a literally and fairly speaking if you're inhaling sort of artificially circulated air with a filter that you change often or not. When you breathe that when you get a temperature that sort of trying to be artificially always at the same level. It's actually good for us to sometimes feel a bit literally and sweat is actually good for us we're built to be like that. We're not built to be an absolutely steady constant the same conditions. So that is a question, you know, is that space really conducive for well being. It reminds me of a better practice a really good one that is we did a show about it some while ago, which we called, you know, superior social senior housing, which is Frank Slavsky designed on the Malca and of Calacaua Avenue, which is that high rise building single ordered corridor that the rooms that face the north are yes, a fixed place, because that's where the wind blows and it basically then gets the air the natural air from below through some vents. So the glass is pushed away from the facade and there are some open louvers that you can close open and close louvered winds that you can get the natural wind inside to cool you by not being blasted at it. So that's like the bi-climatic version of that and we're in the world, you know, did that, you know, end up and here the fossil basically taking over and not to speak about again the southern explosion right that's like brutal. And again in my Lincoln, Nebraska, in the compromise. Yes, you know, my space, you know, if I would have chosen the southern room which I didn't, in wintertime I would have been happy camper because it would have kept me warm past the solar game. But this one here not in Hawaii right there is no such thing that's going to beat you blasted you all year round. And there's there's flush glazing there's nothing it's just really if you if and there isn't even as we see not much operable if basically we run out of fossil fuel which is pretty likely right there all these events related to all these dilemmas we were talking about that might get us closer than ever or since, you know, a long time that that might happen. What are you going to do, I think you can just like slash hammer the glass away to not get deep fried and in these units there. So, you know, the building that the picture on the bottom left which is obviously under construction but we would like to look at that in reverse as being that they're kind of undoing the glass. Because the units above which aren't glazed. They look pretty mighty fine to me right to you to. Yeah and that that's that's what we've discussed in the past the the irony of parking buildings, being open and getting all that free air circulation for cars. You don't want it cars don't need air circulation as much as humans do. So it's ironic that potentially in some cases the parking garage could be more livable than an enclosed space with no air movement and no possibility of air movement because you can't open the window. Yeah. But again that is wishful thinking on our side that that building would undress itself again because that's how it is dressed. And again, the blue of our PI mobile has now little to nothing to do with the blue of the glass that's just the coincidence. And the glass on the building is just. And of course I thinking we're discussing you know to my knowledge glass has yes improved in terms of its R value and shading capacity, but it's still to make fixed glass and expect that to keep yourself cool behind. So we're not yet there and I doubt we ever get there. So our only chance is basically to do what the lady there walking by does. It's just stress lightly. So she isn't sweating and that's what the PI mobile did, got rid of its top. And there it is. It's easy breezy up there. Who do we see there and gentlemen we increasingly talk about. Are you talking about our friend Phillip. He's there with you and what are you guys doing there. Well we're talking about a book project that you and I and some other people are going to be working on very shortly and I'm going to be emailing you and the others about very shortly. About architecture of the Hawaiian Islands but when Phillip was visiting from Germany, your same homeland, you drove him around in the topless Mercedes and he went to visit the Howard Hughes corporations headquarters and the IBM building. And he impersonated a potential buyer for one of their condos because he, as you said looked like a sophisticated person from the outside world which is and he was dressed like that. So you get to have some information given to you from the sales office about what the buildings are what's going on currently down in the Howard Hughes area of Honolulu. And by the time we drove by this building show quoting a top right to they had the public opening blessing. And we've been talking about before what is there to bless. Yes, granted the they achieved. You know the goal of, you know, keeping the workforce sheltered. But again, is this dwelling in dignity, we doubt that it's almost like page farming to, you know, allude to animal life where we're housing the workforce as you know we were talking in the past. This is not a human humane way. These are not going to be the happy employees that you would like to have when, you know, they would be if they were hanging out on the other nice and had a good time and not shoved away and air conditioned all the time. And it's ironic that the really low, the low end of the housing market in a lot of these two story walk ups which you can see on this same street are a lot more livable in terms of having line eyes and having open access to the air. So, can be done. And those are doing it. And yet, there's the expectation that once you build a higher building, not only do you save money by not building line eyes but it also, I think, gives the feeling that you're in a more sophisticated building because the sleek blue glass area makes us think of all of the other high end new condos that are being built elsewhere in Honolulu so maybe that makes things seem more upscale rather than a two story walk up which actually might be a nicer place to live. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a really missed opportunity right to do more with less, because the money is within the fenestration and if you keep this away or find more local, more, you know, locally made, produced, you know, ways to mitigate some of the elements that we still have. That might be a way more promising thing and that's what we actually wanted to talk about next week because this week 28 minutes already over. So we're going to come up with some promising polemic propositions next week as to bring our spirit back up and we're going to wrap up here our analysis of this area. And so until then, have a good week. See you next week and until they stay obviously most importantly peaceful, Lee and along with that easy breezy and breezy easy. Bye bye. Thank you.