 Well, and welcome. I call to order this meeting of the Arlington Select Board on Monday, May 16, 2022. I am the select board chair Leonard Diggins, and I will now confirm that all members and persons anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me. Members when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. They are behind. Yes, thank you. John heard. Yes. Steve Corsi. Yes. Eric Helmuth. Yes. Staff when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative. Adam chapter lane. Yes. That time. Yes. And board administrator Ashley Meyer is participating but not as a panelist. The meeting of the Arlington Select Board is being conducted remotely consistent with an accident law on February 15, 2022, that extends certain COVID-19 measures. The act includes an extension until July 15, 2022 of the remote meeting provisions of Governor Baker's March 12 2020 executive order suspending certain provisions of the meeting law. In this order, which is on the town's website and referenced with agenda materials for this meeting allows public bodies to meet entirely remotely as long as there is reasonable public access that allows the public to follow along with the deliberations of the meeting. Before we begin, please note the following. First, this meeting is being conducted via zoom is being recorded and is also being simultaneously broadcast on ACMI. And those persons wishing to join the meeting by zoom may find information on how to do so on the town's website. Persons, excuse me persons participated by zoom are reminded that you may be visible to others and that if you wish to participate, you're asked to provide your full name in the interest of developing a record of the meeting. Third, all participants are devised that people may be listening to provide comment, and those persons are not required to identify themselves. All participants and persons watching ACMI can follow the posted materials also found on the town's website using the notes during the platform. And finally, each vote tonight will be taken by roll call. We have a lot on deck for the 75 minute meeting but before we do so, let's take a moment to acknowledge the passing of Lieutenant Danny Kelly, the third, a lifelong Arlington, dedicated member of the Arlington Police Department for over 30 years. As we think of Lieutenant Kelly, let us also acknowledge the awful Vincent of this past weekend in our country. Let us try to temper our own potentially negative responses to these actors of hate, hatred and violence, violence so that we can act constructively and this demonstrate that love really is stronger than hate that we have much in common with each other, and that our differences in our diversity are sources of strength and resilience. I now turn to the second item on the agenda. And I lost that. Hold on a second, please. Sorry. So the second item is the request for temporary parking exemption for Arlington High Senior Prom buses. And so we have a Mr. Steve Angelo listed. He may not be here because when I was putting the agenda together. I also notified officer to about the need to be here and he said that we had essentially approved a very similar class fee for the junior in and that he really didn't feel that it was necessary for him be to be here to approve it it would not only save some time but also save the town some money be so I was fine with that so so it is approval item being I will. You know what, I'm just going to ask me for approval to raise your hands or something just. Mr. Second, Mr. Hurst motion. Okay, great. So any comments questions anyone. Okay, great. So on a motion approved by Mr. Hurd and second by Mr. Helmets, Mr. Heim. Mr. Hurd. Yes, Mr. Corsi. Yes, Mr. Helmets. Yes, this is my heart. Yes, Mr. Dickens. Yes. Thank you. And so now we're on to the consent agenda on that. And we have minutes of the second 2022 meeting and requests for requests for the annual Greek festival on June 10, 11 and 12. And it includes a three day special one day beer and license beer and wine license, and one way designation of Appleton place from Mass Ave to Burton Street, and next being for approval beer garden at Jason Russell house on Saturdays from June through September 2022 by Brian Burke, the president of Burke's ruling company. And so I'm not anticipating that anyone will be here, you know, since they're on the consent agenda. So, once again, I'll just take. And I am just to share a move approval and I do see Mr. Burke is here. Okay, great. Thank you, you know, so we can bring Mr. Burke on if he wants to say anything. You know, Mr. Mr. Chatterley. All right, just invited him to join the meeting if he chooses to. Here he comes. Mr. Chair while we wait, I'm happy to second this motion. Thank you. So streamlined tonight. You know, I can see you all just fine, you know. Listen, Burke. Good evening, everybody. Thanks for being here mean anything you want to tell us about the big art in this year. Yeah, I just, you know, I prefer sit in the cover letter my application, you know, we did this trial beer garden in September of last year. We did for Saturday afternoons we were blessed with four perfect 70 degree days. And we had a wonderful turnout, we had a lot of folks from the neighborhood walk down a lot of bicyclists come off the minute man trail. Overall, we just had a really nice event we had really great feedback from everybody. And we're really thankful that the Arlington Historical Society asked us to come back and do an extended run. So, great. Yes. People have been asking me about it already mean so any other comments questions from my colleagues. Okay, I think we're all set so I hope. I think this was going to go well me so I'm going to wish you a really great summer, you know, so with that miss on motion of approval. I'm going to move on to item number six and the license and permits. We have on for approval such ones dumpling 1360 mass have with me and 10. This is a common victual victual or license and I want a mall license and is. It's Jen. Thanks. Hello. Mr Chairman someone named Russell chin is also raising their hand I'm going to promote them. Okay, part of the application package. I was, I was, I was holding back on on the title on this one because I really wasn't sure the pronouns. I got to tell you, I mean, I'm getting more and more into just kind of like, let me make sure I know the pronouns and let me make sure I know how you want to be addressed before I start saying anything that you want, you know, so we still waiting. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. Let's see here. Hello, can you hear me. Yes. So, I, so is this a miss or Mrs Chen. Yes. Okay, which one you prefer. Okay, you know, so anything you want to tell us about your, um, such ones dumpling that we don't know already, like, it's a really good place to eat great dumplings, great atmosphere. Yeah, we made really good dumpling. What can everybody come. You know, so, well, maybe, maybe it's a wonderful person. She kind of alerted me to the fact that about three years ago that this is going to happen. And so I'm glad to see that instead of such one dumpling closing down is transferring license, you know, so any of my colleagues have any questions, comments, motions. Yes, Mr. I'd like to know if the soup dumplings will remain on the menu. She can hear me. Someone didn't read the menu. That's on me, I will find out and I know their favorite dish and I'm delighted as you are that the restaurant is continuing. So thank you. And now that you're talking anything else want to say. I'm good. Thank you. Thank you. That's what's getting that second. Thank you, Mr. Harding questions, comments. Anyone. All right. Great. So, yes. So, uh, motion to approve by Mr. Hamlet and second by Mr. Heard. Mr. Heim. Mr. Heard. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Heim. Yes. This is mine. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Heim. Seeing none the agenda is approval for outdoor restaurant in retail permit application on the heights pub. I don't have a name associated with this one. I see Mr. Is here, so I will promote him if that's okay with the chair. Sure, thank you. It was work. I see the microphone still isn't still in mute mode. You know, so anything you want to tell us about your application for an outdoor permit. No, I'm just looking to offer outdoor dining for the guests and it's very popular at my other restaurant first house club in Winchester so I'd like to bring that to Alanken Heights. Thank you very much me so any questions comments, motions for my approval. So, this is my approval and and Mr. Of course, yes, I am. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a question for Mr. O'Rourke. I see in his application. The plan has five tables listed the memo from Miss Carter identifies five tables that in the permit application. It says six tables and so I just want to clarify what we're approving or what he's requesting from us. And also, if you could comment on the timing of, I think he wants to put in some flooring to to or some temporary structure to bring the tables up to the level of the sidewalk and Miss Carter suggested that maybe we approve the outdoor seating first and then approve the structure later because there might be more approvals, but if he can answer those two questions and that would just be helpful on the scope of the application. Thank you, Mr. work. Yeah, so one of the tables at the end. Could either be a four top x top. It's two tables together. So that's that might be where the confusion is on that. And as for the flooring we're going to hold off. It's a pretty level area in front of the restaurant. Okay. Mr. Chairman. Just to clarify, it's, I saw the five to five in the sex, but I also saw in the application or request for seating for 24 but then in the application from the applicant. It's six tops. It's requesting 28 seats for outside so are we 28 or 24. Mr. work. We have two tables of six and three tables of four so. Okay, no that's fine if your application has where you kind of did the blue prints of of the outside it has four tops, six tables 28 so we're 24 thank you thank you Mr chair. Welcome. Any other questions comments. I'm not seeing. So, so backing up to Mr. what Mr. Corsi reference. Hold on a second. I get a second to this I know that Mr. behind a motion. Have I gotten a second I know that I went to Mr. for a question. So can I get okay Mr. her thank you. So, so Mr. Corsi. So, do we need to amend the motion on this because me your motion is behind me mean, maybe imply maybe imply that we were going to do everything. The conversation now makes me think that we aren't doing the flooring. I mean we're just going to do the tables. Me so do you feel this behind that we need to amend the motion or. with that. It's in Fiat said that it was going to be 28 seating, which is different than the actual three page application. Um, then I would have wanted to further clarify that, but he said he's committed to what he put in in the application from the town, which is 24. So thank you. Great. So I think we're all set here. And so our motion approval from this behind in second for Mr. Herb, Mr. Heim. Mr. Herb. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Helman. Yes. Mrs. Mahon. Mr. Dickens. Yes. It's unanimous vote. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Murrark. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks. Whoa. Item number eight for approval, another big spoiler license in and okay, I'm going to give this a try. Um, McCot Eel restaurant made out and we have Roshan Dangle and Amit Bassnet. Roshan Dagnil is here. It's the town manager. So okay, we just have one. Yeah. Hi. Hi. And this is Mr. Dangle. No, this is Dipendra Kharky. I'm the manager. Dangle is also here. If you want to talk to him or I can talk to you. I'm fine with the manager if they want to just want to say something. That's fine. So first off, how do you pronounce the name of the restaurant? Makalu, M-A-K-A-L-U, like a mountain makalu. Oh, you know, I was seen as an I. I wasn't seen as an L. Okay. M-A-K-A-L-U. Okay, got you. Now I had an I there. Maybe it's just my bad vision. Okay. It makes it easier to pronounce. So great. So, um, well, we really appreciate you willing to do this in Arlington, but let me open it up to my colleagues first for question, comments, possible motion. Sure. Thank you, Mr. Hearn. Can I get a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Decorsi. Any questions, comments? Um, my colleagues? So, well, um, I'm excited about this. You know, Nepalese, you know, maybe we used to have another Nepalese place. Yeah. Yes. Yes, exactly. You know, really good food, you know, and so I missed it when they when they left. So, um, and it's a, it's a good spot for me. I'm in East Arlington and I walk around that area a lot. So, so I'm looking forward to it. You know, so, so best of luck to you. Thank you so much. Yeah, you're welcome. So, so, um, on a motion to approve by Mr. Hearn and a second by Mr. Corsi. Mr. Hearn. Mr. Hearn. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Helman. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Diggins. Yes. My apologies, Mrs. Mahan. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, so I appreciate it. You're welcome. And so, okay. So now we're on at items nine and 10. And I had initially put water rates at the bottom just in case we were running low on time. I wanted to a lot make sure that we had plenty of time to discuss being the town manager, the interim town manager item. But if my colleagues don't mind, and if Mr. Rademacher is here, I mean, I'm happy to take that now. And then Mr. Rademacher can leave if he'd like me, then we can spend the rest of the time that we have discussing town manager. So how do we feel about this, Mr. Manager? Because Mr. Rock, here he comes in. Great. So thank you, Mr. Rademacher. And so, Mr. Manager, I imagine you're going to want to lead off the discussion on this. Yes, I will. I'll give a very brief introductory remarks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. So I think as the board is now well aware, this will be the third year that we are rolling off the MWRA debt shift, which is the program or the statutory allowance that the town has used for many, many years now to carry a portion of water sewer debt on the tax route. Again, I'm saying this more for the public than for the board. The board made a decision several years ago in light of debt rolling onto the tax rate from the high school and the Minuteman project and the Gibbs construction to begin to roll off that water sewer related debt so that we could have some tax rate stabilization or mitigation with the understanding that water rates would need to be increased in a corresponding amount in order to collect the revenue attributable to the amount that had been paid for by that water sewer debt shift. So prior two fiscal years, we did two tranches of that debt shift reduction. This is the third and final year. The reason we did it in three years is so that we were both not creating a giant ebb and flow on the tax rate and also to avoid a water sewer rate shock. So we try to do it in three years. This is the third and final year. So you'll see that the percentages are larger than what we would normally ask for for a water sewer rate increase. But that is the basis for what we're asking the board to vote on tonight. I think what I would ask Mr. Rademacher to do is talk a little bit more in depth about the water sewer system itself and what is driving the costs not associated with the MWRA debt shift to describe that portion of the rate increase. Thank you, Mr. Rademacher. Sure, thank you, Mr. Chair. Sure. I mean, the major drivers of our rates are the MWRA assessments. It's about 15 million of our 20 plus million dollar budget in addition to capital costs and salaries and wages and typical operating expenses. But aside from removing the debt shift, it's a fairly standard increase with the budget from year to year. All right. Thank you, Mr. Rademacher. On this one, I'm going to go down the line just to give everyone a chance to speak to it if they want. You don't have to. So I am going to start with Mr. Heard. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll move approval. I think we've in the past few years talked ad nauseam about the debt shift. So we've all we're all on record in supporting what we've done here. And I think it's been successful in helping to alleviate some of the tax burdens that we're seeing on the tax bills. And I think people appreciate that. So I just want this. Thank you, Mr. Heard. And so next, Mr. Horsey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second Mr. Heard's motion. And also just when I want to thank Mr. Rademacher, I had a couple of questions for him in the town manager earlier today. And he got right back to me. And just again, the risk of talking about this a little bit further, but we did the recommendation is 11.31% rate increase in water and 11.14% on sewer. If the debt shift wasn't included, Mr. Rademacher tells me that the increase would have averaged 4.2%. So the bulk of this increase is because of this, these costs coming off the real state tax bills and coming over to rates and really where they belong to be paid by the ratepayers. But I think that distinction is important because that amount is being paid whether it's on the tax bills or whether it's in rates. So rates in total or the request is to increase them just a little over 4%. Thank you for that. Mr. DeCorsi and Mr. Helmuth. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you, Mr. DeCorsi for that. I think I agree it's really important to have clarity on the constituents of that rate increase. And I have a question through you, Mr. Chair, to perhaps the manager is to how the town will, what the town's plans are for explaining and communicating that to the residents so that they fully understand what's going on. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and through you to Mr. Helmuth. So I might sort of try to answer a little bit and then defer to Mr. Rademacher, but I know we have put language together describing this that we've had on the town website and that we've reshared each year as we have asked the board to make this move. Mr. Rademacher, do you recall, have we put it on sort of a buck slip in the water bills, in the next water bill as well, or have we just used electronic communication? We have in the past used information in the water bill. We, the next water bill, I'm trying to remember if the next water bill will actually have these increases. It is on our website. It's been on the website for three years, each year of the shift, and we do typically put a notice on the bill, if not some kind of notice with it, explaining the reasons. Yeah, thank you very much. This is a suggestion. Given that this is like the third and final year that we're doing this, I might suggest at least to consider that if it's practical, a buck slip might not be a bad idea, just to say, okay, this is it, you know, we're done. And I think it really is valuable to point out that the actual infrastructure costs is 4%, you know, that's what this is, and the rest of this is what you were already paying, but to somewhere else. You know, just, I'm thinking particularly, since we are heading into, you know, very, very possibly an override campaign next year, that might be a proactive piece of communication we could do, just so people understand what we're doing, and they don't feel like this is another cost that's ballooning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, thank you. Yeah, happy to support this. Thank you, Mr. Helmets. Ms. Ohan? Thank you, Mr. Chair. This question may be apples and oranges, so I apologize. I know, I believe last year, we were setting the rates that the MWRI had more assessments in light of the fact of COVID and financial struggles. And if I say anything that's incorrect, please, I'm guessing through the chair to Mr. Radlocker. And I know last year, we have it at 9.20 and 10.78 in this year, we have it at 11.31 and 11.14. So my question is, sort of two part, is the MWRA was last year, a one-time thing where they lowered their assessment to Arlington in light of COVID and financial struggles? And if the answer, or is that reflected again this year, if the answer is yes, it was only last year, is part of the reason, because I know we started out back in 21, like, $8 or $9, or $9 and $10, respectively. So I'm just wondering this number this year, is it MWRI making it up for last year when they did give us some relief, or is it a natural progression? Mr. Helmets? Yeah, so there was a one, there was a one-time relief by the MWRA. Typically, their increases to us are in the three or four percent range on the assessments, and they limited it to one percent last year to help communities struggling with the finances of COVID. But that was, like I said, a one-time thing, and they're back now to a typical three percent increase. So it's not a plain catch up for the one percent last year, it's they're back to their normal customer practice course of business of three to four percent, and it sounds like we're closer to three? Correct. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair. Great, thank you, Ms. Mohan. So I'm debating whether I'm going to ask the question or not. I'm not, you know, so I'm just going to say that I'm happy to see the, once again, that's the last year, I like to, I like seeing the gradation of increases in the rates based on the amount of water usage, but actually I am going to ask questions, it's a different question, hop to mine. So as the rates increase, are those increases determined by us, or or is there a formula that comes from some other source that determines how much it goes up? I mean, like once you cross the 16 cubic foot, or is it 100 cubic feet threshold? So the, if I may, the tier structure was developed through the help of the consultant about five to seven years ago, the three different tiers, the zero to 15 CCF, the 15 to 30 and the 30 to 45, although we change, yeah, right, those different tiers were helped through a consultant to mimic other communities as well as efforts for water conservation. The actual setting of the rates for each of those tiers is done by my office based on projected expenses and the revenues will need to cover those expenses. Gotcha, thank you. Because I mean, the only people that have said anything to me complaining about the rates are those who feel that well in summertime when they want to water their lawn, I mean, they're going to get charged more and I mean, I have my feelings about that, but this helps me understand at least how the differences are derived. So that's it. So I don't see any other questions. I mean, so on a motion to prove by Mr. Herd and a second by Mr. Corsi, Mr. Heim. Mr. Herd. Yes. Mr. Corsi. Yes. Mr. Helman. Yes. Mrs. Baham. I'll definitely vote yes. I should have asked this before. Is this a public hearing where we're setting the water rates or no? I don't have it on the agenda as a hearing. Okay. But if in the past it has been, I mean, we can certainly back out and see if there are any questions from people in the participants list. I mean, so is that people's record recollection of these have been hearings? Mr. Chatelaine. I don't have that particular recollection, but I would defer to Ms. Mohan for the longer institutional. I think that's for the tax rate in December. I don't recall for the water bill. Okay. That's fine. And I don't see any good chance rates anyway. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes. No problem. So thanks for looking up for that. Appreciate it. And so all right. And Mr. Dinkins. Thank you. Yes. Jeanette, let's vote. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rademacher. Thank you very much, everybody. You can hang around if you want, but you're free to go. So now we go to discussion about the next phase in our search for town manager or how we deal with things when current town manager departs. So at this point, I've been working with Mr. Corsi. I mean, you all have seen the memo being from Mr. Heim. I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Corsi because I think he'll provide all the introduction I provide in discussing his feelings about how we should move forward. And if I need to add anything, I will. So with that, Mr. Corsi. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I want to thank Attorney Heim as well for the memorandum that he provided to us at the end of last week. And so Section 12b of the Town Manager Act controls the appointment of a successor to Mr. Chaplain upon his leaving Arlington on June 17th. And we have gone through a process where we've sought interest from individuals for the interim town manager position. And in looking at Section 12b talking to the Chair and talking to Attorney Heim, the feeling was that Mr. Pooler has been identified as an individual to serve beginning on June 18th subject to negotiations with him. And that period very well may go past September 15th, which would be 90 days from June 17th. And the Town Manager Act talks about an appointment for the balance of the unexpired term. And here where there is so much term remaining in Mr. Chaplain's contract, there are some issues that I think we need to discuss with Mr. Pooler. And I'm sure he would like to discuss with us, because if we were to appoint him for the balance of the unexpired term that would go to 2025. He does not plan on staying in Arlington through 2025. However, there is a period of time that he would like to remain here and we want to respect that and try to work with him on that and have an opportunity to talk to him about that. And I think it's one of those things as we look through Section 12b, given the timing that we face ourselves, the Town Manager Act has some limitations in terms of what we can do in terms of timing. And I think as we go forward, we may want to think about a change to it for subsequent appointments. But I think in the short term, it makes sense. We had a draft motion from Attorney Hime. I think it makes sense, and I'm going to propose this as a motion, a motion to authorize the chair to enter negotiations with Sandy Pooler to serve as Town Manager pursuant to Section 12b of the Town Manager Act. And I think those discussions and negotiations probably can, if there is approval this evening, start right away and we can come back as a board and have a subsequent vote, but have a better conversation with Mr. Pooler about his concerns and his timing. And I want to thank him for being candid in terms of what his intentions are. I think that's really going to help the discussion. Thank you, Mr. D'Corsi. And so we have a motion. And so second. Thank you, Mr. Heard. Any questions, comments from colleagues? Just a question after Mr. Helmuth. I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now, I really appreciate your Mr. D'Corsi's work on this. I'm happy to support the motion. I think it's a logical next step. And I look forward to learning more about timing suggestions that Mr. Pooler has and that we have and see what the best course of action could be. I think needless to say, I would suggest that we take this up as soon as possible in our next meeting and I'm sure that we'll make all due haste to do this given the timeline. Thank you, Mr. Helmuth. Mr. Mubai. Thank you, Mr. Chair. What I'm hearing is either the next meeting or the meeting after the board will discuss this. I assume it's not covered by executive session. Just for your benefit, Mr. Chair and Mr. D'Corsi, who are our designees on this, my two top of my head questions would be one that Mr. D'Corsi has already touched on with the process starting if we don't get it done in just about a year in being mindful and respectful of Mr. Pooler's time here in Allenton. I agree we need to have a plan B or whatever kind of plan you want to call it afterwards. You're breaking up. I'm hearing from Mr. D'Corsi is he should probably rather do that sooner than when the circumstance comes. I'm unstable. I think we've probably missed the last three or four sentences. How's that in my back? You seem to be back. Maybe you can back up about four or five sentences. You might repeat some things, but that'll be okay. I'm still unstable. I'll skip. I think we have the gist of what you're getting at me for sure. Although I did have a question regarding your statement about executive session, but maybe I'll come back to you. Maybe you won't be unstable. If not, then maybe Mr. Heim can help out. I see Mr. Heim's hand up now and then I saw Mr. Heim was wanting to talk. So I'll come back to you, Mr. Heim, right after Mr. Heim. Mr. Heim? I just wanted to, if Mrs. Maher could note for the record that Ms. Mahan's signal was lost, just to make sure that the record is clear for Mrs. Mahan was trying to make a point of a 722 p.m. So it looks like the signal is stabilized, but it's just important to note for the record. Secondly, just in advance of any questions about this, to the extent that the board is engaging in strategy sessions for the purposes of conducting a contract negotiation with non-union personnel, you may go into executive session for that specific purpose. You can't go into executive sessions generally, which maybe what Ms. Mahan is saying, but if you are going to move forward and you want to have a strategy session for negotiation, you may go into executive session. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Heim. So that answers my question. Thank you. Thanks for raising that, Ms. Mahan. Mr. Elmuth? Thank you, Mr. Chair, and just a follow-up for Mr. Heim. Mr. Heim, do you feel like the motion that has been presented by Mr. DeCorsi would qualify for executive session under the conditions that you just outlined? As long as the board is going into executive session to conduct a strategy session, it doesn't necessarily matter what Mr. DeCorsi's specific motion is right now. It's that when the agenda is posted, the purpose for that executive session has to be discreet and limited to strategy sessions for contract negotiations with non-union personnel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. So I don't want to put you on spot, Mr. Heim. So you can just say, I'll talk about this another time. Is there anything you would like to say regarding section 12 being in anything that we could do? Because it does seem pretty restrictive. Is it as restrictive as it looks? Are we as locked in as it looks, or do we have more flexibility than there seems to be there? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to be candid with the board and the public in the sense that the way that the Manager Act reads really contemplates two scenarios. The scenario under 12A is really irrelevant. The Manager Act really contemplates this fealty to this idea of terms. And an appointment pursuant to 12B is an appointment in the event of a vacancy, which is essentially, which is exactly what's happening here. The board can't... Someone can't be forced to work for the board. And the board isn't limited entirely in the way that it conducts business. And it's not happy with a manager. It doesn't have to keep a manager on board for the purposes of filling section 12B of the town manager. But the Manager Act read in its most literal form definitely contemplates this idea that you're going to have a remainder of a term filled by anybody appointed under that section. Now, in the past, my understanding is that there have been under slightly different circumstances. Mr. Chapterland's appointment is town manager after Mr. Sullivan's retirement. Mr. Sullivan was in the middle of a three-year contract. Mr. Chapterland was not appointed to finish that contract, but was slightly different about that scenario is that, to my understanding, Mr. Chapterland was hired after a process and was anticipated to serve for a full three years when that contract was entered. So it is a little bit of a pickle in terms of the way the town manager act reads and the way that it contemplates things. It's not maybe as flexible or as modern as I would like it to be. But I think the right way forward is to understand that under any contract with any manager for any period of time, the board always reserves rights with respect to giving notice for a manager and typically vice versa. So I'm not sure if that answers your question, but I think the Manager Act, if you read it in a more conservative way, does contemplate the fealty to terms that is not super practical. And the board has typically exercised its latitude in these situations, but through the consent and agreement of the people that they're working with. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, it does mean and also what it does is it makes what we think about doing going forward more transparent. And so I appreciate your explanation, especially in this in this venue. So I'm not seeing any indications of more questions or comments. So on motion to potentially enter into negotiations with Mr. Pooler, I mean to fill or to step in me as town manager. And from this is horsey and on a second from Mr. Heard and Mr. Heim. Mr. DeCorsi, I'm sorry, Mr. Heard. Yes. Mr. DeCorsi. Yes. Mr. Helman. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. It's unanimous vote. So 730. Nicely done, folks. So I was a little concerned that we were going to have a hard time fitting the meeting to an hour. I really appreciate you all being willing to start a meeting 15 minutes early. I think me just having a slack makes for a less stressful meeting. And I'm all about stress reduction, at least as much as possible. So I appreciate it. So we have some time for new business. Anyone has any? I know we kept it all because we thought we weren't going to have time for any, you know, I have one thing, but I don't know if I'm still unstable. No, no, no, you're fine. You know, I'll make it real brief. If I could ask through you, Mr. Chair, or to you and the town manager, I'm starting to get a lot of complaints. I need styling to never since Cambridge. Cambridge basically eliminated parking along with the construction projects that are going on in Cambridge and on the Cambridge Summable Lines. The board has gotten out to lots of contractors with big trucks, which makes it difficult to get out of driveways to park on Boulevard Lafayette and Fairmont. I don't know how it is across the other way. So I don't know if that's something that can be looked into through the planning department or whatever to see if there's any kind of solution. But I've been down there quite a few times and it's difficult. I can get down because I'll drive through anything. But the word is definitely out because of the parking prohibition in East Cambridge on Massout because I spoke to a couple of parkers, construction workers, and I was told that unofficially. So thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. And so I'm not seeing any calls for Mr. Corsi. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Given that we have a little time, I have a couple of short ones. First thing, I would like to wish a happy birthday to Jack Bowler, who is 90 years old today, former town employee, father of our Arlington High Athletic Director, John Bowler. And the Bowler family has been very active in the community. And I want to send greetings to Jack on his birthday. The second thing, Mr. Chairman, is I had the pleasure last week of attending the Touchdown Awards Banquets for Arlington High School athletes, seniors and teams. And the Ostrigen Award, which is the student athlete, senior athlete, one male, one female, Reed Malatesta won and Grace Cressetti won. So congratulations to both of them. And I will just leave the guest speaker was Barbara Stevens, who was the former basketball coach at Bentley University. She is the winningest coach in Division II history, won over a thousand games. She gave a great talk to the students who were there about taking chances and learning from failure. And I just want to cite a quote that she had in the locker room because I thought it was really, really well done about taking chances and not being afraid to fail and being uncomfortable. And she said we had a quote in her locker room or signing a locker room that said, there's no growth in the comfort zone, and there's no comfort in the growth zone. And I thought that was really well said to the group there. So thank you, Mr. Chairman. Oh, you're welcome. And that was inspiring. And I certainly take that to heart. So thank you very much. So, well, and I'm not seeing any other new business. I mean, I certainly. Mr. Chair, I'd like to move to suspend and re-adjourn at the Radio Tell meeting and that the adjournment of, final adjournment of our meeting will be concurrent with the final adjournment of Radio Tell meeting. Second. Second. So, Mr. Hyde. Mr. Herd. Yes. Mr. Dacorsi. Yes. Mr. Helmut. Yes. Mrs. Mahan. Yes. Mr. Diggins. Yes. Shana's fault. See you guys soon. See you soon, Mr. Chair. Bye-bye. Thank you, everybody.