 All right, just, oh, you're already rolling that. Yes. Can you clap? Yes. I'm literally my best clap in quite some time, so I'm feeling very impressed I got to do in front of you. Kelly Rowland! Yes! Author, as you know, big fans in this house, Philanthropist, entrepreneur, award-winning musical icon, award-winning TV personality, award-winning actor, and leading lady of Miacopa. Number one in the call sheet, welcome. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you, guys, clap too. Yeah, yeah, moment there. Woo! What? How hot was that? What was your face doing when you read the script? My mouth dropped. It was actually the moment I said, I don't know that I can do this film if I'm being completely honest. It was literally the moment that Tyler kept, he texted me and he was like, you got an answer for me? And I was like, can we talk on the phone? So of course he called me and we talked about it. And I said, I just, and I kept stuttering. And I was like, he was like, you don't know if you wanna do it, does it scare you? And so, of course it did, of course it did. So I called a friend of mine and he said, Kelly, if it doesn't scare you, what's the purpose? Like, you have to jump and you have to take a risk. And he said, it should scare you. He was like, so you should jump right into it. And so I'm really grateful to him, really grateful to Tyler because they pushed me out of a comfort zone. But when I read that scene, I said, ooh, Lord, like it just, the room was really hot. I was like, God, dog. But it was, it was, I didn't, the funny thing is it was actually something else. It was actually, it was supposed to be like all of us like really engaging in each other. And I said, I don't know. I said, I feel like it's something that like would really, like you'd wanna be a part of it more kind of if you're watching. You know what I mean? You're like, what, what am I missing? Or what am I possibly missing? You know what I mean? So when the collide happens, it was just like more of like a, you know what I mean? Okay, am I interpreting that it was supposed to be a threesome? Yes. It's way better this way. Yes. It's way better this way. Yes, yes. Because we've seen and done that before. It is the eclipse that is so hot. What conversations do you have to have in your real life about intimate scenes? I remember we were supposed to shoot it one day and I called my husband and he was like, all right. Well, you know, go, go do whatever it is you're gonna do. It wasn't like, kill it, have fun, you know what I mean? He knows and you know, so when people start, if they start even asking questions, he's like, I know. Yes. I know, like that means the most to me. And to him and to us as a unit is for him to be like, yeah, I know, I saw it. I know, I know, I know, I know. But I hit that first. It's all of that. Can you take inspiration from that into your own life? No, I was definitely bothered and ready to come home after that scene. Definitely ready because I was in Atlanta and I remember I called my husband and it was still early in LA. Then that was a lovely night. That's great, that's great. I could ask for more details, but I'm gonna be classy. Why is sex and being sexually charged up and connected something that is important? I mean, to me, like I feel like if I'm being very transparent, like sometimes when you're moving so fast, like you'll have a lull, you know what I mean? And then you need something to just awaken you, whether I'm away and I'm working or I'm coming back home or I'm stressed. You know what I mean? Sometimes stress and work days and motherhood, like everything gets in the way and then you forget about that and then you have to reconnect. Here's what I think about now. Here I am in a marriage and I love my mom. God rest her soul. But she had four or five marriages. You know what I mean? Like I'm on one. I'd like to just stay at one personally. So I have never seen marriage like work. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like I've, in my close space, I've never seen it work. I have not watched it be functional. Whatever that, you know what I mean? Whatever functional it may be. Like it's been more so like dysfunctional and wanting to get it right. But in order to get it right, I do make mistakes. You know what I mean? And it's learning about my mistakes and being able to move on. Whether it's being selfish, you know what I mean? And learning about like, oh, well, you shouldn't have said that like that or you shouldn't have done that like that or you handle that poorly. And him being able to tell me about it without my feelings being hurt and knowing that it's coming from a place of love. And I think that that was the hardest place for me because I did want to be perfect especially because it's like, if the world is doing this for me, like I guess I should be. But that's not the way it really is. I'm not perfect and I'm figuring out marriage and I'm figuring out how to be a wife and I'm figuring out how to be a mother all at the same time and having a career. You're not gonna be perfect. I had to finally like really come to grips with that myself. And I think that what she said was, what did your friend say? She wanted to not be put in a pedestal by her husband. And I, that's brilliant. Greatest thing I've heard all year. Can you provide a PSA on Kink? Not to say that you're kinky unless you want to self identify as that. But I'd say I'm a sensualist. Kink is definitely necessary when it needs to be there for sure to whether it's strike a fire or to bring on a spontaneous moment. But I think it's nothing wrong with Kink but I am a sensualist. Okay, you have to actually educate me right now because I can feel what that word means but I've actually never heard it before. So sensualist is somebody who senses have to be awakened in order for them to really come alive. And I'm all about it. Smelling good, the lights being low, the music is right, the way you touch, the candle has like, it's all about that. And when it's like that, I don't know what version of me you gonna get but you'll get the best one. And that is real. When all of my senses are awakened, I'm scared of what I'm gonna do. I can completely surrender. Can I ask you a broad question? Yes. What does sex mean to you? Oh my goodness. I'm relearning sex to be completely transparent from just stuff. You know what I mean? And it is sacred. It's special. It's intimate. It's electric. It's fire. It's leaving me out of breath right now. I mean, it's fun. It's enjoyable. It's spontaneous. It's, you know, it's, yeah, it's bomb. It's bomb. It's bomb. I asked ChatGPT how they would describe Kelly Rowland. Oh Lord. What's ChatGPT? Kelly, are you joking? No, I'm not. Okay, Ness, I'm joking. Okay, so ChatGPT essentially is like Google AI. So you can ask it things and rather than it giving you searches, it provides answers for things. And so it said that Kelly Rowland is the beacon of talent, empowerment, and grace in the entertainment industry and beyond. Oh, AI. I've been giving you a hard time. I'm sorry, boo. I wanted to read that in light of the log line of the film which I love, which is everyone is guilty of something. Was this movie a conscious choice to get people to see you more dimensionally? Yes and no. I remember being afraid of that. Oh my God, it's so out of the grace and poise in this and that. And then I thought to myself, so. I mean, like you said, when I have two kids, I'm grown and who is gonna check me? You know what I mean? I think that it's more so about being really like settled and confident in my sexual space and not letting anybody or society like try to put me in a place. They've done that for so long. And I feel like as women, as black women, we're in a space now to where we're showing the world what we own and that is our sexuality. There's gonna be people who love the erotic genre category who are gonna watch it, people who love Tyler Perry who are gonna watch it. Then there's people, I think a lot of people who are not necessarily fans of either of those things but love you and they do maybe have more of a Puritan mindset when it comes to sex. And this is going to bust them wide open. Oh good. I want them to be bust wide open, bust it wide open. Go for it. When people do have that immediate first reaction, if you could put your hands on their shoulders and talk to them, what would you say? I think when I was younger, it was, you don't, it's about like positions more so. It was if you ride your freak, that is far from the truth. If you ride, you're free. You know what I mean? I just got the wrong information. I got all the wrong information and I thought that for a long time I was so close-minded. So when you start having all these conversations and you're like, really? I think that no one should be close-minded. I think that no one should judge. I think that sex is as fun as you want it to be. If you ride your freak, which, hey, if that's where the bar is at, it's a very long, slippery slope from there. You're right. Then what's gonna happen when you find out that?