 If you just realize that you may be doing too much in your workouts, in other words, you need to scale back. Do so in this order. First scale back intensity. If that doesn't work, scale back volume. If that doesn't work, then scale back the frequency. That's the order most people should scale back when they're trying to reduce the total load on their body. Do you have a record of intensity? I think we all agree for sure. You gotta be first. Yeah, that's just make your stuff easier. Yeah, intensity first. So and I think that almost always honestly solves the problem because I think you can handle the same volume. I mean, technically you can reduce the intensities to a point you can almost solve for any of it. Yeah. So I mean, I think that's like the first year. Now let's say you do have somebody because you recognize that they're overdoing it volume-wise too. It's just like, that's just too much. There's no reason for you to be doing 52 sets of workout, six days a week or whatever. Is there a typical, because volume is the total of sets, reps times weight. Is there just an easier thing to tell a client, because you tell a client volume, the average person doesn't know what that means. No, they have no idea. What does that mean? So do you just go like, what I want you to do is look at your workout and cut out a set of every exercise. Is that an easier way to do it? So I used to cut down a third of the sets, but now I go down to half. So whenever, when I would identify with my clients that, that they were maybe overdoing it or whatever, I would always back off half the volume because when you're coming out of overtraining or overdoing it, you have to make up a little ground. It's not like you just go back to the appropriate volume. You got to give the body enough time to catch up. So I would always go to half. So I said, whatever, you know, if you're doing, you know, 15 sets in a workout, I only want you to do seven or eight at most, you know, type of deal. Well, plus then you can gauge whether or not that was really the case. That's right. That's right. You know, like you're barely kind of in the needle and then frequency. Like, I mean, you could work out a little bit every day for often, not for everybody, but oftentimes helps with the recovery process, just a little bit of movement. Yeah, yeah, you know, how often do you think people are too extreme in both directions, meaning inconsistent so that they, they don't train. They missed seven days in a row and then they train a day over correct. Yes, then they, they over intense intensity or over volume, then they miss again five days in a row, then they do it again, or maybe they get three days in a row of like super high intensity. Then they, you just described most people that have troubles staying consistent. I mean, I would say athletes are most guilty for that. If you've been like long periods of time without training consistently, then you want to get back into it. It's like full blown, like full acceleration and not really like a gradual approach at all. I bring this up because I think, I think this gets. Misunderstood when we talk about this sometimes because I think we were always kind of preaching this message about people like over applying intensity and telling them like start less build on it. So with that, and I think the, the average person in their head goes, yeah, but I haven't even, I haven't been consistent for even 30 days. So I can go super hard. Yeah. So I definitely, I'm not overdoing it. No, I only train six days this week. No, that's the, that's the irony. The irony is, or the, the, what's interesting about this is the, the more consistent you are, all being appropriate, okay? The more consistent you are, the more volume you can tend, you tend to be able to handle. In other words, think of it this way. Fit people can do more and be okay with it than people who aren't fit. So if you're not working out much, you know, buys more condition to be able to handle that kind of load. The damage on one intense set, you take somebody who's sedentary, you take someone off the street, doesn't work out at all. And I date, I do a set of squats to failure. One, we've overdone it and they'll know, they'll feel it. Rockin' for a few days. Just one set, you know? So, um, think of it the way I would always explain it, and I've said this on the show often, is you think of the body improving as a form of adaptation, which it is, and it's no different than your skin getting darker in response to the sun. So if you never go out in the sun and you want to get a tan, you don't go get a sunburn. That's not going to leave you a tan. It's going to leave you blisters. You got to expose yourself appropriately. I used to think that. Regularly, did you really? Did you get a sunburn to get there first? I'm like, oh yeah, because biggie in the summer, you know, I was always like, it was always at the very end of the summer. I had like a little bit of a shade darker. It wasn't even like, yeah, by the very end, I'm like, man, if I really, maybe if I get ahead of it this time. And then it just, it gets to the point where I'm like, just red, pink all over with like white freckles instead of brown ones. I thought I have skin cancer. Did you get, I was going to say, did you get sunburn every summer? I mean, it was likely I would be sunburned first thing. I learned probably about the third or fourth time I've done that that I was like, wait, at least, you know, so like, yeah, it doesn't naturally. My, my, my mom saw all of my mom's Sicilian. She's, she's light-complected. So I get my complexion for my dad. And we went to Sicily years, a long time ago, and we all went to the beach and she didn't put sunscreen on her feet, but she put them everywhere else and we were outside and my mom was like, she could be pretty white. Oh, blisters, dude. She got blisters on her feet from the, from the sunburn. So, but again, you don't get bad. You don't get tannity faster. And it's just like that with exercise is the right dose will get you to the fastest. And that's what people understand. But, but I wanted to list these in order of importance because people, when they think of scaling back, the, the, what's interesting is when someone says, oh, I need to like reduce things because I might be over training, they typically don't reduce the intensity. They just do less, but they still apply the same intensity. That's why I brought that point up because I think a lot of times people hear us say that and they don't think that this could be them intensity does the most damage because they haven't been consistent for even a month. So they think, oh, that's not me. I'm not overdoing anything. But it's like, actually you are, you're, you're a bigger culprit of this because not only are you not being consistent with the days that you show up, the few days a month you do show up, you overdo it. And it's just like you're spinning your wheels at that point. It's like your body is just trying to recover. And then you add in the end in another variable, those tend to also be the people that like, oh, that's the week they cut way back on their calories. So they, they over, they over-train. They underfeed them, which makes you more susceptible to recoveries. Even yeah. Yeah. So the recovery sucks. They probably didn't build any muscle from it. And it's just like, I mean, and you wonder why so many people get so frustrated and go like, why? Like, and, and that's why I feel like there's such a divide in our society of like people that work out, fitness people, and then people that have just chosen like, I don't want to do all that. Yeah. Like, it sucks. It hurts. It sucks. It doesn't work. I worked out real hard. I got to sacrifice so much. You got to put so much effort in for such little results. It's like, it sounds terrible. But I mean, if, if I were given a challenge and someone were to say, um, what's the fastest way to over, over-train someone intensity? I could over-train somebody with intensity very quickly with volume and frequency would take a lot longer. The body can handle those two things with appropriate intensity at much higher levels. I also think it's an area that even, even with lots of experience and expertise in this field, it's still a tough thing to gauge. Like, I mean, I don't know. I don't know who out of us, I'm probably, I would think I'm one of the more inconsistent ones out of all of us, like at least this period of, of my life. And so at that, as far as like consistently training in the, in the weeks. And so I have a lot of these like, oh, I didn't train for a week, you know, and coming back to it. Now I haven't gone very long, like, like weeks or months of not getting any sessions in, but literally just falling off my, you know, my normal volume of, let's say three times a week down to once or twice or having a week off and coming back, it's a trip. I just, so I had, I just came off of that a while ago and I was like, you know what, like I'm just not in the mood to get after squats today. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to do some stuff I haven't done in a long time, real, real low intensity. Like I got the suspension trainer. I put a box roll low and I just did, I lowered myself. Nice full range of motion. Oh, I mean, you got one leg at a time, just in five reps, you know, on each side. And you got sore. Yeah. And I literally did three sets of that five and five on each side, support from the suspension trainer, body weight, pistols down real slow getting up. And I was just really just concentrating on technique. And I'm like, okay, let's, we'll see how I, I was sort of, I wasn't crippling. It was, it was, I thought I did a pretty good job of gauging that. That's all you needed. But that's all I needed. And that was my point is like, wow, like so many more times I would have walked in and been like, I'll just do like three sets of 225 for, you know, eight. And that'll be five. That's a journey at a time is way less than you think. Yes. It's so funny too. And if people only knew like the best progress I, I ever make with my workouts, and this was what my client see was when I didn't get sore, when I'm training hard and I'm not getting sore, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm hitting the right, the right amount. It took me a long time to understand that. It took me a really long time. I thought it was, I thought I wasted my time. Yeah. I, for the longest time, I measured the success of the workout by how sore I was. And if I didn't get sore from that, that I was, you know, the first time I figured that out was when the long time ago I was researching, you know, bronze era, you know, strength athlete workouts. And I noticed they all trained, they all looked phenomenal. This was before steroids, before supplements. And I noticed they all trained full body, all of them, three days a week. That was a routine. And the feats of strength that they did were just unbelievable. And then I read them and then I read a book called dinosaur training. And then I read some other stuff and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to try full body three days a week instead of my, what at the time I was following, like your chest day, back day, whatever. And so that's what I did. And I had to scale the intensity down because I'm training everything three days a week. I couldn't go to failure or whatever like I was before. And so I started doing it. And I remember like I would do like a bench press on Monday and Wednesday I'm going to do bench press again. And I'd show up and I'm like, well, I'm not that sore, but let me see. I just did it two days ago. I wonder if I fully recovered. Five pound stronger. I remember like that first week, I got stronger so fast. And I went, uh-oh, I think I might have been doing this wrong the whole time. Yeah. You know, I mean, I think that was part of, you know, going all the way back to the, you know, the inception of this business. And when you first sent over maps in Avalik, it was the, the limited amount of volume and the simplicity of the program that I was so like, oh, this is what, this is, I was just at that point in my career where I was starting to figure that out. Like less is more sticking to a handful of really good exercises, not doing a ton of volume on it, hitting it three times a week. And that was like the way you had laid the program out. And I literally was just coming to that conclusion myself of that period of my training. And I'm like, this is like, nobody is talking about this every like, it's the opposite of this right now. And I think that's why we had so much success is so many other people were in that same mind mindset of training. And then I guarantee, and how often do we hear this when we first would release the program? Oh, it's not enough for the like all the time. Yeah. Oh, this isn't like, oh, like, oh, how did you follow it? No, I don't even need to. I could tell this is not all right. Did a work guys like, dude, follow it for one month. That's all I needed was 30 days from you. Give me 30 days of training like that, trusting the process, trusting the amount of volume that's in there, the boring exercise on there, and the proof was in the pudding. And then again, I think that's the people saw the result and they saw so much results from that. I think that's where a lot of the credibility that we have. And then the business was really truly built on that. You know, I remember those quotes, those comments were so funny. Hey, by the way, that study you sent me, I read it on babies and eggs. Oh, yes, I'm so glad you're bringing that up. So, um, super fascinating babies to eat eggs. I saw an article first. Sorry. Look at the ages. Let me get the ages. So, so I said, I found this, I came across this article that said that they did this thing. They tested this and Sal couldn't correct me with this real study said, but I just saw the first article and it said that they did a group of babies that they all they did, the only variable to change was they gave them one egg a day, one more egg a day and they follow these babies around. And within, I think a year's time, they saw a 10 to 15 percent increase on IQ. Yeah, difference, difference. IQ difference. Yeah. That's significant. That's significant. That's significant. And that's the only variable that's the only variable to change is probably now they say it might be they had higher levels of DHA in their brain. So this is a fatty acid that you'll find in good quality eggs, but I think it had more to do with the Kohlene personally. So I, I have a different theory. I think called nature's multivitamin. Well, so, so I have, I think and it's not necessarily the opposite of what you're saying. It's just that I think it highlights how under how nutrient deficient we are. Yes. As a society and how much processed stuff that we feed our kids and just by giving one of the most complete foods in an egg at that, just because it has a nice balance of protein, healthy fats inside there. Because of that, I think that showed such a if you want to give your baby a few things that's going to give them some like incredible nutrient density. You give them fish row and trust me, babies will actually eat this. We give this to my son when he was little, my daughter. So fish row is amazing. What we're talking about now, whole eggs, incredible, red meat, amazing. And avocados are good as well. Those foods right there, like they'll get so many nutrients from those that they lack and all the foods that if you ever look at baby food and stuff that, you know, that are designed for babies, they're not very. It's just a fortified nutrients and sugar. I'm saying it's like it's not like real whole foods from real natural sources. And I think that's what I think it's I think a lot of people probably saw that and think that there's something magical about eggs. I think it's less. I think that's less of the point. I think more of the point is like we feed our babies so much of this like kind of process, fast food, quick, frozen type stuff, and they're missing. And because an egg is so complete, I think that's why you saw it. But I mean, wow, I mean, super motivation for Katrina and I, like afterwards, like we're harboring a bunch of eggs and we're going to get we're going to like eat them together as a family and see if I can get Max to like, I tell you what, crave the whole egg a day. What sucks for us is say what? Is IQ that increased? Yeah, to 15. So, so Aurelius, we've been giving him eggs since he was forever, always. Unfortunately, my baby, my one year old, she eats eggs. She gets a little bit of eggs in my so we can't give her eggs. So I'm going to I'm trying to look so I try and sardines. I'm trying different things. Now, stay with that, too, because we had that same issue with Max. So we went away from eggs and then and then we've not that long ago reintroduced it back and he seems to be fine now early on. They often I'll grow. Yeah. Early on, we noticed that he was getting these little rashes when they're going to say, oh, shit. And he didn't really like it that much. So we went away from that for a long time and then came back, I don't know how many a year or two later and reintroduced it. Now, unfortunately, I haven't we haven't trained him consistently enough to where that's what I want him to crave that for breakfast is the goal. And if I can't get him to crave it for breakfast, then I want to see if I can encourage him to eat hard boiled eggs throughout the day or something. So that's the goal. What we deal with the three year old is is we now this doesn't work for my baby. But for our three year old, we parsed out egg whites from the egg yolks. Because it's when we first gave him eggs, too, it was a little bit of a reaction. Oftentimes it's the white though, not the yolk. It's because the white is in the theory of well, the white has antibodies in it because it's it's basically put in there to protect the yolk. So if somebody reacts to eggs, if they don't react, if they if they do react to eggs, sometimes it's just the white and not the yolk. Interesting. So something else. Well, that used to be you. You used to always eat all the. Yeah. Now I can eat them all fully. But back in the day, I would just eat the yolks. You guys would see me. Yeah. 9 or 10. How he saw it. Over easy eggs. I just got out there. Yeah. Okay. Today's giveaway is maps power lift to enter to potentially win. Leave a comment below this video in the first 24 hours that we drop it. Subscribe to this channel and then turn on off your notifications. Sorry, turn on notifications. If you win, we'll let you know in the comment section. Also, this month's sale is maps and a ball of half off and maps and a ball advanced also half off. So they're both 50% off. You can find them both by clicking on the link at the top of the description below. All right. Here comes the show. Speaking of eggs, this may just this reminded me of something. Doug was going over some numbers with me. His testosterone and how first off, I don't even like talking about this. I know. So much testosterone is ridiculous. I don't understand. I think it's just generating because I think we're on our final years of people thinking that we're younger than Doug. I think I think we're in our last. This is our last couple seasons. Bro, he's like naturally on gear. I'm not. I'm not taking. Okay. So tell me how high were they? So what was your highest reading before you started using the the the juve regularly? Because you were you had HCG and I think you were supplemented with boron. Right. So a couple years ago, I tested I think at one thousand eighty. That was like a total. And I was at a time I was really working on my testosterone levels. Yeah. And then back, I just have some notes here. Back in November, I did another test through transcend. My testosterone was six fifty five. So it had dropped. It had dropped. By the way, six fifty five is still high. Yeah, but it's still a nice level. Do you can you connect? Like was it you put less effort towards it? I was just wasn't paying a lot of attention to it. And you were probably stressing him out a lot. Probably getting stressed out a lot. I think that was sour around that time. I think so. Yeah, there was a time there. I was like pretty. It was a lot of sound actually. Pretty nodded up most of the day. I'm not stressed out. But one thing. So there's been a number of things I've done. OK. One thing is I've been working with transcend. So I'm using HCG. 25 units twice a week. Right. Now that'll raise your testosterone by itself. Yes. I'm using DHEA. I'm using boron. Yeah. But one of the things I have done consistently is use the red light almost every single day. So I start my morning. Again, this is another stress reduction thing that I'm doing right now is I get in front of my red light, you know, just totally naked. And I sit there and I do like a 10 minute meditation. Kind of a great combination. Yeah, just bring myself down a little bit. Also, sleep is another area I've been really working on. So your highest levels before were like close to 1100. Close to 1100. And now since you've been doing this, you just came back. So I just had a test blood taken on February 23rd. I just got my results. My testosterone is at 1381. Bro, that's more than mine from synthetic testosterone. Does that make you angry? Yeah, I'm getting a healthy dose. You got so much testosterone. Can you give us some? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Give me some of your muscle. But the red light therapy, I think made that difference because that's the one thing that's changed. I would say that's one of the things. And I really have been working on my sleep. So I'm not going to say, oh, that's the only thing I did. They all help each other, though. They do help each other. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like. So I've gotten, I've had people send me their numbers from using just the red light and they'll see us a nice 10% to 20% increase. Oh, I remember when. So I know Ben Greenfield used to talk about it. So did our friend Metabalk Mike. I remember his went up a lot. He did like a controlled like test on himself, right? Like he literally just that's all he changed is a variable. And he went, I forgot. I think I want to see like you just shine like directly on his balls. Yeah, naked in front of it. Right. He he went from like two or three hundred something to like six or eight hundred. I can't. Yeah. He's significantly people. Justin's not making a joke. That's literally how you do. That's what I'm doing. Yeah. Well, the red light goes through the body. It affects any cell that it touches. The mitochondria in that cell start to operate better. So if it touches the light excels, which are in the testicles, they'll produce more testosterone, more sperm, more whatever. You shine it on your skin. It makes the skin rejuvenate. It's shining on your scalp. You regrow hair, you know, that kind of stuff. I seriously, I wish I wish you would do like a some sort of a home light system. Like what do you mean? Use their technology and you be like how they're under where that's going? No, no, no. I've told you guys before, like like six, seven p.m. And you flip. Yes. Like I wish I could have it. Like I wish my whole bathroom was that there's no reason I need regular light in my bathroom. Like so that every time I get up in the morning, I just hit my my life is there. Yeah. I'm showering and brushing my teeth and like I'm just getting it that way. Wow. Because the one thing that if I'm ever inconsistent, it's just having a routine of going up a frequency with it wins. Yeah. As stupid as it may sound is like I know to discipline myself to carve out 10 to 20 minutes to sit in front of it. Like I've done it pretty good. Like right now, the the the new thing I'm doing is Max and I a lot of times we bat take a bath or at the same time, right? And afterwards him and I will all turn it on and sit in front of it and we play and we mess around and I get dry and just like I'm kind of hanging out in front of it. But I'm just that's what I'm doing right now. Then it'll be inconsistent for a while. If it was in my light system to where my bathroom lights were all the infrared lights like that I would totally pay for that. And a shower too. I pretty much do that. My bathroom, though, mine's hanging on my door and I usually take a shower with that just that light on only. So that's what I was doing. So and I wanted to look up. I don't know how close you have to be. Well, so I do the meditation right up against the panel. So that's what is most effective. So that's why. OK, so I have the I have a big glass shower and I had it. I had it mounted up outside the shower shooting through the glass on me. Now you're losing. I know I was thinking you're probably losing. I got to be right. It's got to be to that thick glass. I got to be I mean, it feels like I'm getting it, but I can't tell. Right. And so you're getting some. I know better. That's kind of the attitude I had was like, listen, at least I'm doing it. If I was doing it, I was doing it every time to shower and I was twice a day. Right. So I was like, at least I'm getting the frequency of the red light. But that's I mean, like, there's a market there, Juve, if you're listening, like to create some sort of home light system. I know that there are many. Have you seen you've seen their mini? The one that all right there. That one. So that one, everybody in my family loves. That's the one because they put it on their face. They like the fact that so yeah, my sister loves that because she works for the company on the computer. So she just sets it right. She has her next door computer screen. So it's blasting her in the face while she's working on the computer screen. Wow. Yeah. So I think that's a good way. Hey, I want to ask you because you brought this up and I said, let's save this for the podcast. Good discussion. You were talking about washing your car and using like the foam spray. Yes. So yeah. So I have an interesting. I have a comment on the first off, talk about this phone thing that you such a sprays foam. Yes. So if you if you ever I don't even know if you guys have ever paid attention to our car wash guys, right? When they go out there and clean the cars like they're like the the companies that you hire to do that, they have all these toys. And I and I would watch and I'd have them come to my house to do my stuff. And I'd been watching them do I'm like, man, that's sick. Like if I like, you know, it reminds me of when we saw that guy use lasers in the middle to level everything and like easily hang up. Oh, yeah. So these was like laser level. I had lasers. Yeah, I was the same. Hey, hey, I was the same way, too. I've been trying to hang pictures up with rulers and all kinds of things where the studs are. And yeah, yeah, you set up the center of the room. Mount it. It's like, yeah. So yeah, I like that. It's like that for car washing. It's I mean, and what it is. So the part that I like least about washing my own car is the the the soaping part is going back to the bucket doing a panel back to the bucket doing a panel. And then it's like that's taking you 15 minutes just to get that one side of the car so you don't want to dry. So you rinse it off and then you start over and there's any kind of go do that whole. This thing, it's it's got a canister that hooks up to the pressure washer that's got this is in the soap. Yeah. And so you literally like it looks like you spray paint the car. I mean, you just and then it a thick just coat of all over it. And then you come back and you you hit the whole car. So it's like it saves me so much time. It's I don't know. There's something about it. I like it's an old guy. So here's like a barbecue barbecue direction. You guys have found this dad hack. Yeah. Hey, you know, you know what? At the hardware store, I haven't washed my car by myself. Like personally, I haven't washed my own car probably for two decades. Wow. Easily. But you know, one of the first things outsourced is have someone else do it because you don't even care, though. You know, I'll do it. I'll get a good job. No, no, no, I mean, like, you don't you don't even care about cars. That's what I'm saying. When you wash your car, you're kind of like, yeah, you know, I'm into your car. No, I don't talk to it. But there is something. So, OK, we, you know, for the audience, right? So we all get our cars washed, OK? We all get our cars washed and I and I have the car guy come to the house. And I actually there was a part of me that was missing it. Like I like there's a part that you missed washing your car. Yes. It's it's therapeutic for me. I do it. Yeah, my kids is sure. Like on a warm evening. Yes. It's so nice to wash your car. I put my I roll my speakers out. I cannot connect to this. I roll to my speakers out to the garage or have headphones on and I go to town. Do I wash it? It's also escaped from the wife. Well, you know, you're very big. What do you escape? I'm just meditating with the. Yeah. So here's my little car wash toy. Oh, it's here. A leaf blower. Yeah. Yeah, dry it with a leaf blower. And then I take a towel and just do the rest of it. Gas powered. No, no, I have electric one. That is a massive hack because one of the other headaches are fucking everything. Do you really? Yes. Hey, one of the other headaches of washing the car is if right after it's all beaded up, if it takes 40 towels because they soak up all the water or you have to have one of those like, you know, you know, what Shamwile, Shamwile type of towels or you use a blower and you blow all the heavy water off and then you come back and you touch it. You are so passionate about this right now. I'm so glad to ask you this. I'm into it. I like and like it's at the McGuire's wax and I have it all. And I miss wax your own car. I miss. Yeah, I have all that. So I missed it. I missed that because we were paying for someone to do it. And obviously there was a nice luxury to having someone do it. And then I'm like, you know what, like half of the appreciation of me having this machinery that I like because, you know, I'm into cars is just like, yeah, I like to take care of my stuff like that. My cars are all like the only, you know, car that's trashed my wife's car. It's not. The only car that's the only car that's not. The mom wagon did. Oh, man, rappers. And I just let go of caring. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what? Hey, that's dirty socks and everything. And in her defense, she's got the little one in her car all the time. I don't have that. So of course, like she's and she's every time to and from. He's yeah, he's got stuff, but I can't deal with it. Like I have to have my put my son in the back sometimes. And he thinks it's funny to like to hit the controls with his foot in the back. I'm like, oh, it was just a troublemaker, bro. Oh, he's just he's just testing all the time. If he finds buttons, he is on the button fire, dude. So OK, so you always make fun of me of these types of things like you don't have like what are the things that we're trying to say, bro? Yeah. OK. You don't know that that's you, Sal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not that part. I mean, you know, like going back to the car wash thing for me, like you got to have some things like that, right? That you that you. I know Justin's is guitar, right? Justin will go down probably downstairs his basement for two hours by himself. I didn't want to say it. Damn, yeah, you got. Yeah, I want to know what is it? Supplements, bro. I'll prepare like my formula for the morning. No way. Do you still make up your own versions of concoctions all the time with like, because I know you used to like order like just this raw material and then you'd get it. And oh, yeah, I still do that. So do you it's not a good. It's not a good obsession. OK, so OK, now I'm curious. So like I'm going to work out tomorrow and if I get this much sleep and I'll go stimulant heavy here or oh my God, I'm going to go heavy on the nitric. Of course you do. Why didn't I think of that? Of course you do. Oh, I need I need more of an adaptogen feel for this workout and so I'll combine. Oh, I have like if you if you if you come to my house in the kitchen because I wake up for Jessica does right. If I feed the baby, I'll bring her coffee and then I take care of our three year old. Then she'll come down. I'll typically leave to go work out. And so when you come, you'll see I'll have a little cup prepared with like multiple different types of pills and it changes and it changes. Yeah, it's not always the same. No, there's there's some certain staples in there. Of course, like vitamin D and probably some of the statement not for pre-workout, but like, you know, caffeine will always be in there in some some way, shape or form. But then there's other things. Okay, so you have because I know you also carry your you carry your supplement purse embarrassing. No, no. You did it to me. Yeah. So, okay. So I know you like a like a dysfunctional. I don't know. Actually, I don't know baby. That's my wife. We have quite a few cars. She'll say so. Maybe it's a little dysfunctional. All right. So you okay. So racing gloves. So you. Yeah. That's pretty funny. For the fuck's sake. Maybe a little. Just a little. They're expensive ones. They work. They're legit. Yeah. They match the car too. You know what I'm saying? I do. All right. Well, enough of me. We already did. We already went through. Okay. So you've got, you have that. That's that's that's centered around morning workout. But then you also have your, your, your man purse here that you carry with all these supplements. Now, do you have those in little pill things or do you just have it? You know, like, cause I always see you reach in there and between his podcast, everything like we're always throw. Yeah, you are. Right. Is he not always doing that? Every time I look at, and I never really pay attention. Like what is he taking the combinations? Every once in a while you throw me like, Hey, take this. I'm like, okay. What do we take you right now? In between a microwave meal. Yeah. The combinations depend on what I'm looking for. So I have certain products, the supplements in there. And I'll know like, Oh, I'm going to want this. I want a little of that. Or I'm going to help. Oh, interesting. See, I just assume that it's always the same thing. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Cause I, anytime I've tried to be good about my supplements, take it this way. Are you just like constantly seeking new feelings by doing all this? Or avoiding feelings, Justin. If you really want to get deeper, I didn't know I was going to turn it in. Oh, my tricks are come on my nose. You want to be real? I forgot my arm chair here. I tried to avoid my therapy, but I'm really not the guy to talk to you about this. I started to realize that's what I'm trying to do. Oh, wow. That's too real. That's too real. Honestly, it's still, honestly I'm still obsessed with workouts and the stuff that's centered around workouts. So like I told you, I'm working out at a different gym now. And I think about the equipment that they have. And I'm like the combination of them. I'm going to do this and that, you know. So I can connect a little bit to that. I was, do you remember me when we were meeting when I was training for getting like competitive shape? You remember? I would meet with him and I was, I felt like that. Where I was, I was so. I was geeking out on like every new thing. Yeah, I would come in. Yours was for a point, like a purpose. Well, yeah. Mine is for the hell of it. What am I doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not competing. I mean, I can kind of get it because I understand that the obsession of that and tweaking all that stuff. Well, we all have that in common. Dude, look at this vein. Well, all of us kind of have that in common. We have this obsessive side. So we'll get into something. I get like that with topics. If I start getting obsessed about a topic, there was like a two year period where I got into physics. What? Why? I don't know. I got into physics. And there was another like, well, eight year period I got into economics just for some reason. Yeah. I read these books or whatever so I can get very obsessive for sure. We all have that. We all have that. I mean, I know we were laughing about it, like avoiding or whatever that, but is it therapeutic in a sense to you? Of course. Yeah. Of course. I think you get lost in your obsession and everything else kind of melts away. You guys feel like that, right? Yep. It's that when you're like, you're so present because you're in your focus that. I love that. I think it's such a healthy thing for. For someone to have like that's why. I mean, what made me reengage and do this going full circle, like the car foam talk again is like, I was losing that. Like again, I reached a place where I didn't need to wash any of my cars, right? So paying someone else to do it. And then I felt like, man, I was missing out on something. How funny is that? Like I wanted the labor back. I was like, you know, I. That's awesome though. Right. It's like, hey, I worked really hard to be able to, I mean, and it really was that it was a bit of me like being introspective and thinking back to like childhood, right? Like, and I try to do this like where I have these moments where I just stop when I'm by myself and kind of just trying to be grateful for the work that I get to do, the things that I've caught. I mean, there was a time when I was a 16 year old boy when I said things like, man, if I could just have that or just do like, I did it. Yeah, you have it. And so, and then, and then what I outsourced cleaning it now. It's like, damn, like that part of that. I remember as a kid thinking about I would take such good care of it and I would be like thinking and now I'm like already, you could take care of it. Like, no, like so there was a part of me that was getting that back. Doing things for the sake of the enjoyment of doing it. I think it's an awesome thing. Yeah. I had a moment kind of like that, but it was like mainly just watching my son. And I had told you guys awhile back, like he had met some of these neighborhood kids and they kind of started their own little group to call it like the super sports bros SSB. Oh. And I was like, oh, it's SSB time, you know? And like, so he just reconnected. I think they had like a fallen out like months back, but they just got back together. And so they're back at it. And what's great about it is they're the ones that do the walkie-talkie. And then they move one to one person's house. They play there. They come back like before dinner, you know, when it gets real dark and all the parents are kind of privy to like where they're at and all this kind of stuff. And I sent a video to you guys if you win. So, you know, in front of my house there's this little patch of, you know, like artificial turf. And they just decided to do like a pickup football game. And they did like basketball, they did football. And then they did like tether ball and like everything was like rough, you know? It was like, and I had a moment where I was like, I was like, oh, well, cause I have these other kids here. Like I don't want anybody to get hurt. And, you know, like kind of coaching them on like how to be careful on this. I'm like, dude, what am I doing? You know, like I didn't have that person there. Like, oh, watch out. Oh, don't go that hard. Oh, no, you're going to get hurt. And I was just like, I let him figure it out. And so I just started like, yeah, like cheering for him and stuff. And then I would, I like remove myself and I was just watching from the kitchen, you know, through the window and it was just amazing to watch them like, you know, they, they, they, you know, do something really rough and get kind of her, but then like kind of brush it off. And then they're just still cool. And nobody's getting upset or angry or anything. It's just like, wow, like this still can happen. I was, I hope you really appreciate, you know, what you have fostered with those boys because as a young, as a, as a dad who was a young kid right now, who's raising in this time right now, one of my biggest fears is that my son doesn't even want to do those things. So I think about that a lot and, you know, you've really fostered that at the house and to be able to sit back now at the age he's at where it's not like you had to go tell him, go play football or go do these things. Like he gravitated towards that. That's such a cool thing. It's also the group of kids. Like that's the hard part, dude, is finding kids that your kid jives with that wants to do that. Seriously, dude. Yeah. And it's harder these days because we used, when we grew up, we always grew up with neighborhood kids. Kids now make friends with kids that live far away or whatever. Different schools, everything. Yeah. So it's really different. Like when I was a kid, I would just go outside and there were the neighborhood kids. Even if they weren't the ones I went to school with, there were always the neighborhood kids that we would, you know, hang out with. It is different like that for sure. So that's, I mean, I hope you appreciate that. That's a really cool. Yeah, it's a really cool. Try and take a moment really to like take it in and be like, yeah, this is great. I mean, you guys remember the games you played growing up? You know, we used to play, we played tackle, full tackle football. Of course, no pads or nothing. And it was raining out, too. Which was like boxing. We get boxing runs. I ruined my first pair. My grandmother in fourth grade bought me my first pair of Jordans. And they weren't even a week old. And I went out and played knee football in the mud. Oh. And destroyed them. Like that's what happened when you get a fourth grader. Shoes like that. They're probably just not ready for. Did you know what you did when you came home? That sounds like it. You know, when I think back to it, like I can, I remember that whole day. You know what it was? I love those shoes so much. I wanted to wear them everywhere. That's your only thought process. Yeah, exactly. It was not like, oh, I need to take care of these. It was like, I love these so much. And I was so proud to have them. I wore them everywhere. Yeah. And then, you know, then you go. And then what I did was I went down the hill. So I lived up on this hill out in the country. And I went down the hill of the neighbor's house and it was after a super rainy day all muddy and we're like, let's play new football. And it was like, yeah, good idea. It wasn't like I put them on going like, oh, I'm gonna play new football in my Jordans. You know, it was like, they were my favorite shoes. I'm going, and then it was far enough away where it didn't even dawn on me. I should probably go back home and put crappier shoes on. It was just did it. And then. Little kids are like that. Yeah, like something and they'll be like, can I wear this every day? Makes no sense when I think back to it. Like, what was I thinking? Like, you weren't, you were just a kid. Yeah, but totally destroyed them. I destroyed the shoes. Jessica was little. They didn't have a lot of money when she was a kid and her parents bought her like these, these like Minnie Mouse, you know, nicer kind of glass, glasses frames. And she was, when she was there as a kid when they were picking them out and the guys telling them was like, oh, these are really strong frames. You could like stand on these and they wouldn't even break. So when she went to school, she told the kid, she's like, you can stand on these and they won't break. He's like, no, they'll break. And then she goes, no, they won't. So she put them on the floor. The kids stood on and broke her glasses. So she didn't have glasses for a whole year. Oh God. They could afford to buy another for a whole year. For real. Because she thought. I mean, that is. That's what the guy said. It's like how that brain works in that age. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't even don't even process that. So funny. Dude, I got a quote for you, Adam, that I want you. I think, I thought immediately Adam would like this quote. Play-doh. You know, Play-doh was where it was lost. Let's see if I've heard it. He who does not desire power is fit to hold it. Oh, I love that. It's kind of like. Isn't that amazing that wisdom? I mean, we just know. I mean, we've said, we've talked about this before. I don't know who said it after him about like the ones that should be in power, the ones that don't want it. Right? So that's probably, it's probably derived from that original because he goes back further. Isn't that interesting? Like the people that like seek it so strongly and make a whole career out of it, there's something wrong with that person that wants that so bad. Fundamentally wrong. We should not let them have it. You just reminded me something. Do you know that? Remember I told you guys that the other day I would, I actually was going through our YouTube comments and I tell you not, like I told you, I ruined my fucking day and I told you the whole Jen Cohen thing and then I saw another comment someone made about. Everyone I brought up that comment about like, what do you guys want to be remembered as a father or what are remembered as when you like die and stuff like that or whatever. And like somebody like talking about how narcissistic I am because I said, I want to be a good father. What is it? Like, fuck you. Like seriously, like, first of all, we don't have a choice. We're known. Okay. Millions of people listen to this show every single year. So where there's no getting away from being known. So what I want to be known for is being a good dad. Like I'm not like seeking for others. That's where they, the way they positioned it was like, I like, they're like, why don't you just go be a good dad instead of like wanting everyone else to know what a good dad you are. Like you can do both. Like fuck off, bro. Like really? Like that was not the point of the exercise. That's not the worst comment. The worst comment I ever saw was one of our old YouTube videos. It was me demonstrating an exercise. Weak chest. That's my favorite one. That's a good, that's a, that's a funny one. That's a funny one. When people are working on that forever. Yeah, that's hell of a thing. Bobby just a toxic place. I tell you what, it's like, man, you can't have, you can't have an, oh, I can't have a real dialogue with you guys at all without being fucking judged by somebody, you know what I'm saying? Stayed off that fucking thing. No more, no more going on that thing. Hey, I found some other, another cool thing. You guys want to guess what the longest sanctioned fight ever was? Longest boxing match ever. 20 or 21 rounds. Is that right? What about you? What do you think? Remember, remember, bare knuckle. They went forever. This was, this was 1913. So think of the times. Oh, so this is it to the death. They don't even have, there was a point when it was boxing was 24 hour fight. Well, this, so this, this fight happened in 1913 between Dick Highland and Ray Campbell. It lasted 110 rounds is neither one of them. Bro, how's that possible? I'm looking at the picture. I'll send, they'll post it up. You, these guys, I mean, yeah. Back and forth, back and forth. It was seven hours and 19 minutes long and it was declared a no contest. Later changed to a draw because neither one of them and they didn't like win any money or anything because it was all like whoever gives up. Or no, the fight, fights in those days, some of these fights were whoever gets knocked out. Yeah, I was just going to say it was a count off. Or someone gives up. So nobody even got paid? No. Wow. Hey, imagine like these guys like tough motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah. Seven hours. We're such pussies. They're just, there it is right there. You got to do the picture of the actual after the match. There was actually a picture. What was up with the guys holding the hand down like that? I always liked this pose. Yeah, I like that. Anyway, I'll send you the picture but their faces are all destroyed. I have some for you guys at trivia. I came across this. I thought it was really interesting. This is most profit made in a single day by some of the world's largest companies. Any guesses on? So profits or sales? Profits, okay. Largest, yeah, single. So most profit, most profit made in a single day by some of the world's largest companies. I'm going to guess one of them is Apple. Pfizer's vaccine. Oh, fuck. Well, that's forced, isn't it? Okay, so I would, damn, that was a good one. Mandated. I was going to guess Apple when they released one of their iPhones. What a great guess. That is number one. Yeah, that's what I thought. Number one, number one. Which iPhone? It doesn't say that. It just says the profit. So Apple was in a single day, $376.8 million in one day. Profit, right? Number two, Microsoft, $246.2 million in a single day. Number three, Google, $238.9 million in a single day. Number four, Meta, Facebook, $175.5 million in a day. Newer company, so NVIDIA, $135.7 million in a day. That's like one of the fastest growing companies right now, by the way. What's NVIDIA? They're all the AI stuff. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you can look up who, is that, that's not a Sam Altman, is it also? Amazon, 121.9, Exxon, 111.1, JPMorgan, 100.9, and then Walmart and Visa, the same round, 54. I was actually surprised that your Pfizer wasn't up there. I would have guessed it. Yeah, well, I don't think they, I think there's some kind of qualifications at this point. Cause they had guaranteed. Cause it was, yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a real, I don't know why I didn't even think, I didn't even think that that would be. Or any pharmaceutical company. There's none on here. So maybe it was just straight, huh. Wow, NVIDIA, oh, it starts with an N, I don't know, I thought it was by the way. Jensen Huang. But yeah, I heard that about, yeah, Apple iPhone for sure. And they still like are crazy profitable, right? Like, every launch. Oh yeah, Apple has the most cash. Yeah, they had the most cash at anybody. Yeah, they know, they definitely, I heard that they actually stopped a halted production in their car. Yeah, they did. Completely, yeah. Oh, did you hear all the other companies that are, remember I brought up like, I think it was last year when all the companies signed those deals that they would guarantee no more, which is why I got into buying the V8s and stuff like that. I told you guys. Oh, they said no more. Cause by, yeah, by 2025, by 2030, all these companies said, no, we won't have any more yet. All of them are taking back that. Really? Yep, almost all of them. Yeah, I think there's only a couple of companies left that are still like, I mean, there was a couple of companies that said they wouldn't even agree to that. And then a lot of the companies that agreed to a cut off date. Cause it wasn't market driven, was it? No, not at all. It was all driven by, Yeah, it was all false, yeah. False signals. And they're looking at it, it's just like, it's not adding up. Okay, so, did you see anything about the Toyota CEO? Cause he came out. The Toyota was one of the ones that said they wouldn't do that. Yeah, he's just like, was like, no. Yeah, they were, they were what, this is not allowed to do any production at EV. Yes. They were one of the companies that actually saw the writing on the wall from the beginning and said, no, we're not agree. Which is ironic, cause they were some of the first to adopt it with the Priests and things like that. Yes. So, which is makes sense. Well, maybe they were in early and they saw it. That's why, they saw it. They saw that it's, I mean, listen, how many people did the same thing that I did? Still this day, when I see Priests. It doesn't math up yet. Scratch my head. So when I was, when I bought my Corolla back in 2010, I think somewhere around that time, I went, the idea of it, I sat down one day, I got my report from Wells Fargo on my gas expenditure. I never paid attention to it. And I went, holy, and I was back then, I was driving a lifted big old truck, right? Like probably eight miles to the gallon. And I was spending $800 a month in gas back then. And I sat down and I did the math. Like, okay, how many miles is that based off of eight miles per gallon? It's like, and then I went, oh wow, if I drove a car that got 30 miles to the gallon or more, 50% of the time, I could afford a $500 car payment and still be saving, save money. I literally went and bought a car the next day. My thought was, I'm gonna go buy a Prius. There's a Prius at that time was 50, they were touting 50, 60 miles a gallon. And then when I went down to Toyota, the Corolla was like 15 to 20 grand less than what the Prius was. It didn't add up. And then it would take 10 years of driving the Prius longer than the Corolla before it made a difference in the payment. And so I was like, oh, why would it? We could have bought like a 1980 something Civic. Those things are crazy. It's ironic, like even the environmental things that they were promoting, it's like you look into it further and it doesn't add up, because what's actually powering these vehicles to recharge them? Yeah, it's fuel. It's not batteries. And also, how do you discard the batteries? They're an environmental hazard. There's a lot of problems. They're stacking up. There's a lot of problems there. It's just like whatever we're promoting, it's all like this just propaganda. It has to be driven by the market and by innovation. And that's just gonna solve the problem the best. Otherwise, we're gonna be wasting a lot of resources. Nuclear. Plus now you give kill switch to the governments. Oh, did you guys not see that? Yeah, they passed that. No, did you not see Ford? No. Oh my God, that was all my notes to bring that up. I can't believe I forgot to add that to the notes. Look up Ford announces, I'll pull up the article right now. I think I know you're taking it off. The new models that are coming out there, so this is how it's gonna work. So you miss a payment or something like that? Yes, it's a repeat code. Conditioning. Then if you don't pay again, shut off. No way. Yes, bro. To the point where they shut it all the way down where they repo it. I got it. Yes, it has, and they can repo it and drive the car back. Say, you know what? People, this is the deal. People, when you're making a car payment, you don't own the car. Yeah, that's right. So people getting pissed off about that, it's just they don't realize you don't own the car. Well, yeah, I'm not. The bank owns the car. No, yeah, that doesn't concern me at all. It concerns me is the. Yes. Here it is, right here it is. The government. My hair is right here. Yeah. Drive away from a proposal will force the car to drive itself to a repossession agency. After the car drive away, it will be a last resort. The first pressure delinquent owners by disabling some of the cars features like the air conditioning or having the audio system play unpleasant, unpleasant, un-torture. Yeah. Un-torture sounds. How do you like that? Your car tortures you in the middle of the payment. You're just like, ah, dude. Or every 10 seconds, you owe us money, you owe us money. Dude, it drives away from you. You imagine you pull up, you'd get out of your car. Bro, could you imagine? Could you imagine you're on a date and you get your car? Pay your bill, pay your bill, pay your bill. How embarrassing. Have you ever been that broke? Oh, girl out. You probably shouldn't have. What? What do you mean? Is there having you guys? Is that happening to you? That happened to me. Oh, yeah, I came back from college. Did you pretend you forgot your credit card first? Well, I just, like, I thought I didn't add up. And she looked at the menu. Yeah. You like the hot dog, right? I think I'll take this thing. Yeah, I didn't add it all up. I had missed the payment. Like, I was broke, dude, like, legit broke. And I just was trying to, like, be sly about it. And I had given her, like, two cards that declined. And then, oh, so bad. And then she just kind of looked at me. And then I finally got one, like, whatever I could scrape off of, like, these two ATM cards that finally, like, made it happen. And then, you know, try and, like, act smooth after that. And, like, done. Like, no second date. Yeah, no second date. No second date. Yeah, but now look at you, huh? Yeah, I bet she regrets it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in now. Isn't that crazy, though, about that? I mean, we talked about that. It'll just drive away from you. That's hilarious. Oh, it says four drops the attempt to patent tech, allowing lenders to remotely meddle with cars. I guess it's not very popular with consumers. I mean, are facing increased. Oh, so automakers are facing increased scrutiny for their data collection and remote access policies for vehicles. I don't. This is different. Is this the last cry? So remember, I was telling you guys before that with all. So insurance companies now are tapping into this. And it's like, if you can, we can, if you have all these GPS's on all these cars, you can learn all the behaviors like, oh, Sal drives by the 7-Eleven every single morning at 8 a.m. So you're starting with Tesla's and things that are all hooked in. Think about how it's going to advertise to you. Insurance companies, too. They were like taking advantage of that, right? They had like a thing you could put on your car to basically show the amount of wear and tear and like how hard you're driving it and all that stuff. So you get like a lower. Yeah. Have you guys, have you guys not ever noticed how often I use was every day because I have to go through traffic. And so I was or ways. Ways, I think I say, I used to say ways and everybody corrected me, so it was was. Okay. Well, whatever. I don't know. I do use it at times. You know, tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, tomorrow. Sure. So if you, I don't know how often you use it, pay attention next time you use it because it learns all your normal behaviors and figures out like before I can even put stuff in, it knows what time I'm driving and knows where I'm going. Yeah. So it goes, oh, on your way to work. Your nitro's ready to steer by. And then, and then it hits me on all my, it will advertise to me as I'm driving on the road past like 7-Eleven and stuff like that. It'll pop up with an ad for me to get like, you know, a, you know, two egg rolls or 299 or what that. So it's already, you're already seeing it in apps. They're trying to get it to where the cars, it's all built into the smart car like that to where it'll be able to do that. So yeah, we're not that far away from that happen. But that's what that, what he just pulled up is more related to that than the forward thing that we first. Yeah, I don't like, I don't like anyone having the ability to turn my car off. No, hell no. I get it if you don't own your car or whatever, but I don't know, I don't like the government having that power. That's why I'm going all in on the old cars, the old vehicles, the ones that like manually you can go in there and you could put a new, whatever, carburetor in there. You can like, you know, you have some bit of say. Because if you do have any kind of computer, they can hack in. That doesn't even matter. Yeah, if you just have to have like on-star. If you got on-star in the car, like you're- Oh, they can, huh? Yeah, they can grab it. Because on-star can shut down your car. That doesn't exist anymore. Do they still have on-star? Yeah. Oh yeah. They put in all GM vehicles. All the GM models have it. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. You may not have it activated and you're paid for, they have access to it. It's in there, yeah. Yeah, if you like, didn't you see, was it Brendan who rolled his car, rolled his, whatever? And the on-star things started to go off because it recognized that his car flipped and everything like that. Yeah, yeah. So it's, even if you're not paying for the service that has all the a la carte stuff on it, they still have a GPS on you and they know where you're at. You know what I forgot to mention is that one thing I have pieced together with the supplements, just gonna go back for a second, is the one addition that I've noticed makes a big difference in my workouts is the LMNT. One full packet before I work out. Okay, so now is that, because you're experimenting on it, is that something that is a consistent thing? Now it is. Okay. So I do a full, like a big, like what is that, 16 ounce, 20 ounce thing of water with one packet and I drink that before my workout. Way better. Now I've heard you say too though that there's a lot of times that you'll do two a day. Is there- The second one's during the workout. Now is that also always or is that like dependent? Always. No, it's almost always. Almost always. So I go one first, one before and then one during. But it makes a huge, just drinking a lot of water before your workout makes a big difference and the sodium made a huge difference with the LMNT. Well I think especially, I mean the thing that I think I've learned the most about the electrolytes and the sodium and all that with us is that, and I really pieced this together back in the competing days was that when you eat clean whole foods and you eat like that, you eat the cleanest out of all of us probably. And you just don't get that much, you don't get nowhere near what you get when you eat out all the time, like the normal American diet. So it's like when you switch over to dieting and getting in shape. If you work out, you need to add sodium. Absolutely, that everybody should probably be doing. Well I've noticed even too, because I've been trying to drink more water because I've been getting headaches sometimes and noticed that if I do add a bit of LMNT and some sodium, it does help actually reduce my chances of getting headache. Have you seen the data on sodium supplementation and migraines? Makes a big difference. Positive one. And you get headaches pretty regularly, right? Yeah, I do. You get them every week? Yeah, every week I'll get at least one. Wow. I remember when I pieced that together I used to do dill pickles. So I used to keep dill pickles in there and if I started to feel headache coming on, I'd go crush again. That's the one thing I never get. Headache? No, I might get one every five years. I do. At the most. You know what gives them to me is when we're in here for a long time. When we're in here for a long time. I feel a tension in here. Yeah, that's how I get that. Well, my teeth are just... I mean, there's a whole lot going on. Didn't you just chip on your teeth? Yes, my tooth. How did you do that? I have to get fixed. I don't know. I don't know. You just woke up? I don't even know if I'm like sitting and just... Oh, god. I could be doing that. There's a good chance that's happening. I have no idea. Like, you guys don't even tell me nothing. Like, dude, hey, relax your face. Bro, if you're clutching, I'll tell you. I'll tell you if you're clutching. Like, say something. When did you notice when you woke up or was it like halfway through the day? No, it was like when I noticed when I felt like a sore on the bottom of my tongue. I was like, oh, what is this? And then I come back and then there's like this jagged spot that's literally stabbing on my tongue and so it's uncomfortable. So you swallowed the other piece, probably. Yeah, I ate it. And it's probably good for... And Justin's that calcium. Remember Never Ending Story? The Rock Monster? You remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my favorite clip that we did about him when we were talking about him. Yeah, yeah, back when I made fun of him is to his old teeth. Hey, I don't want to forget. I want to, because I've been meaning to give you a hard time about the Cybertruck. Yeah. Right, because they're all over now. You guys seen them all. I've seen a couple of them. They look lighter in person. Yeah, they're popular. They are. And you know, do you hear the big pushback right now on them? What? Because we just had all this rain that come through. They rust hella easy. Oh, no. Because they're steel. And so if you don't pay for it to get wrapped or protected or like that, like that shit's rusting. It's bulletproof. And it looks, yeah, look up Cybertruck and rain. That's all you got to Google. I popped it on everywhere. Oh, no. Yep. I'd be hella mad. That's a problem, yeah. So you have... I mean, didn't they learn that from... Didn't DeLorean go through that whole thing? It's like... So it's... Wait, isn't it stainless steel? Doesn't stainless steel not rust? Or is it still rust? I mean, it's... Obviously it does. It finds a way. No. Yeah, did you pull up? Did you type in what I said? Yeah, so it seems that they are rusting in the rain, but there's some details here I need to read ahead and see. Just pull a picture. There's all kinds of stuff. It's... It's propagated. I mean, the wrapped ones actually look better, right? The black... The black wrapped one that I saw was cool, yeah. You know what I like? So it's an oxidative layer. I don't think it's really rust. It's stainless steel. Yeah, so it's like a... All right, because I feel like... It's like a surface sort of... So your car just look rusty, but it's not really rust. Hey, so I saw one on the freeway. I saw one on the freeway, punch it. First off, it's big. When you see it in person... I haven't seen any of them move. It's a big, tall... It's big. Oh, yeah, I know, it's big. Like, if that runs into you, you're gone. It's like six or 8,000 pounds, something like that? Oh, it's massive. It's huge, dude. And so I saw one on the freeway, hella big, and then I saw it take off. That thing, man, it moved. Did you hear the numbers on his, what, his next Model S or whatever that's coming out? Or is it the Model S? He talked about it on Rogan again, too. The coupe. The new, the next sport one that he's building, it's like zero to 60 in 1.2 seconds. Wow. That's gonna be something. And supposedly that's like the least interesting thing about it, it's supposed to be like crazy. I think he's been talking about for like a year or two, and it hasn't came out yet. It's been like two years delayed or something, right? Yeah, yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. 6,600 pounds. Yeah, that's heavy. It's heavier than our cars for sure. Is it? Yeah, ours are 62 or 64 or something like that. So that's a big heavy car. But I don't, I mean, what I'm seeing is they're popping up and I guess their stainless steel doesn't rust. By the way, did you guys learn this the other day? Did you know if your company, if you as a company buy or lease a car and it's over, I want to say. 6,000 pounds. With someone in there, they even let you add a passenger. If it's over 6,000 pounds, it gets a special deduction. As a commercial vehicle. Yeah, right? Yeah. You can do that, right? Yeah, you know that. I do? Yeah, you do. Yeah, that's how you have one. Listen, I just show up. Just show up with my supplements. Yeah, that's it for real. Show up optimized. Wow. Who we got to shout out today? Yeah. Who do we got? Who gets to send some love to? Justin had somebody. I did? Oh, I have someone in, and you know what? Because Sal hasn't watched it yet. I'm going to shout it out to our audience is Octopus. Murders. Murders on Netflix. I tell you what. We're going to talk about it in the next episode. Yes, you have to watch that this coming week, Sal, because I'll do my best. I, you may, you may catch me wearing a tinfoil hat now. Really? Yeah, that's how. Oh, wow. It's very revealing. That's how much of an impact it made on me. Really? Yeah. So, like it's like a big deal? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's tangible evidence. Yeah, yeah. Let's just put it out. All right, all right. Yeah, yep. Are you interested in learning more or potentially using peptides? Things like BPC-157 accelerates healing of tissue, including collagen and joint health. Or about TB-500 or thymicin beta helps with the recovery of muscle fibers and other tissues in the body. What about growth hormone releasing peptides? Or how about GLP-1 agonist like semi-glutide? You might have heard of it through the brand name Osempic. There's a lot you can potentially benefit from by using peptides. But you want to go through people who know what they're doing. You want to go through some doctors. By the way, our partners at mphormones.com, they also do hormone therapy, but they also work with pretty much every peptide you can think about. So go to mphormones.com, fill out a questionnaire, work with the doctor, get a prescription, and take your results to the next level. All right, here comes the rest of the show. First question is from Juice Tasty Soup. What is the best exercise for posture? Posture, okay, so someone listening may think there's an obvious answer to that, but the truth is, now there's exercises that are probably better for most people's posture, which we'll get to. But the truth is when you're talking about posture, this is an interplay between a lot of different muscles. You have obviously the muscles of the back, the muscles, your glutes, which hold you up. You have your hip flexors, which oppose the glutes and keep your pelvis in a nice position. You have all the muscles of the core. Like all these muscles have to be in the right balance with the right stability to give you what would be considered good posture. By the way, good posture meaning you hold yourself up right nicely, you feel comfortable, you can move with good mobility, so that can vary from person to person. So that's the big answer, the more specific answer. Most people, some type of a row probably would help them, because most people have forward shoulder. I was gonna say a more generic, broad answer, but pretty applicable to everybody would be the entire posterior chain. Postier driven exercise, yes. Because we're so anteriorly driven, meaning we do everything in front of us, right? Nobody does anything back here, right? Nobody works their hands or their feet back behind them. And so all those muscles on your backside are just underworked in comparison to the ones in the front. And so basically everything that's part of the posterior chain is going to support your posture. For most people. Right, I think that's a really good, like if you're a trainer asking this question or you're just a person who's trying to figure out what are some exercises I can do to support my posture. Postier chain movements, and rows would be included in that. You know, there's so many, rear delt flies, light lying leg curls will do that, glute bridges of that, hip thrusts, like these are all dead lifts, these are all movements. And you'll know, by the way, if you do an exercise, first off, doing an exercise doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get the benefits of the exercise. You have to do the exercise properly because you could do a row, for example, to try to get the shoulders, to strengthen the muscles that hold the shoulders back. But stay rolled forward. But you could do it in a way to where your shoulders stay rolled forward and you actually strengthen the poor posture. So you have to have really good technique. Typically you wanna go light if posturing is an issue for you because otherwise you'll go to your normal recruitment pattern or you'll revert to what your body does best. So go kinda light, get good technique, good form. And then here's a telltale sign that you're doing the right thing. When you do it, stand up. And I see this with clients, I say stand up, how do you feel? I'm like, oh my God, I feel so good. You just feel a lot better. I mean, the closest you are to full extension, I would say, you know, I'm like fully erect posture, the better. And then that's, again, the posterior chain exercise can reinforce that in order to kind of keep everything balanced from being over dominant in the front. One of my favorite tools, I believe we have a YouTube video, I don't know what it's titled, maybe Andrew can find it, is the PVC pipe. Because using that as a tool that you went to your point when you're doing any exercises, learning how to hold yourself upright in that good posture position is half the battle because you can do movements to Sal's point that are designed to support your posture, but if you do them improperly, you actually only, you just exacerbate the problem. So you don't even make it any better and it's supposed to be an exercise. So it's important on how you do the movement that you're in a good position. I like the PVC pipe too, because it also cues the head. So one of the areas that people often miss or trainers miss with their clients is posture with the head and the top of the spine, the cervical spine. So like a good exercise is like giving yourself a double chin. And you'll notice a lot of people has forward head because they're on the computer so much or because they're on their phone or whatever. That makes it big. It's an extremely rotated shoulders. You pull those back. So the PVC pipe is cool because it connects to the skull, then the upper back and the tailbone and that helps keep everything in line. Next question is from Jonathan Sosh. What are the benefits of a renegade row? There are distinct benefits to a renegade row, but I will say this, nobody does them for the benefits. I've never seen anybody do a renegade row for anti-rotation. For the pre, yes. That's it. Everybody does them because they look cool and hard. Yeah. You know, and I think some celebrity did them or something started doing them on social media. Everybody thought this looks like a cool exercise. You're doing a regular row check this out. Yeah, it's not for that. Yeah. It's not a super great developer of the back or the biceps or the shoulders or your core. What it does is it works something called anti-rotation. It works on your ability to resist rotation during movement, which is very important for spinal stability, especially for athletes. So this is, and when you see people do this, it's always to fatigue and they're always doing it. Yeah. Like it's some part of the circle. You're not set up to do this with heavy weight either because you just don't have to leverage in that position. So if you're wanting to actually like build muscle, you know, you need to, you need to do rows. You need to do things that are actually like, I can actually load this substantially and gain the benefit of that for like a muscle building purpose. But when you're in that position and you're really just considering bracing the core, keeping everything from rotating. I've never really been a fan of the Renegade row. It's not an exercise I like, because to the point that Justin made about anti-rotation, I can get great anti-rotation benefits from a regular row. You just keep yourself in a fixed position. There's like two ways to do a row that you see online that some camps think one's right or wrong. It's not. One of them is focused more on anti-rotation. One of them incorporates rotation, right? So the difference is like, you'll see someone do a row where they let their shoulders roll forward and they open up as they're rowing. And then you have other ones that stay in a very fixed position while they do it. You use the scapula move. Yeah, now that's anti-rotation because you're not allowing yourself to rotate and move, which is the benefits of the Renegade row. I can load that substantially more because my feet are planted and supported it with my knee on the bench. And so if I want that, those properties. So I've never really cared for the Renegade row that much. It's gotten popular, I think, because it's hard. Yeah, it looks cool. It's hard. It burns a lot of calories. Because when you're having to plank out. There's minimal value to it. Well, it's actually a really good anti-rotation stability exercise for ground fighters, grapplers, because of the position. Now, it's not an explode. You're not gonna develop explosive power with this or lots of strength, but it is a good movement to help develop stability. So when you're in that position, go real slow and controlled. And the idea is to not let your torso move but row the weight while supporting yourself. Yeah, I was trying to think of a client who like maybe someone who loves to do surfing. Who would I have that I would use that exercise over other exercises? Just like a grappler, maybe a surfer, but really it would be, it's just the way to add variety to anti-rotation. Because I think there's better exercises for most of them. Yeah, me too. I think it's such an overrated move to do. And again, it doesn't mean that it doesn't have some value and I can't find value. And maybe I would introduce it to a client who I've already done all the other ones with. And it's like, hey, here's a cool anti-rotation challenging exercise for you. Especially if maybe I've been talking to the client a lot about pelvic stability, core stability, and teaching them how to do that with other challenging things going on. Like I can see the value in that. But for the average, I mean, to me, this is a classic example of like, and when I'm this deep into my exercise library, like we've done a lot of other shit. We've already covered a lot of the bases if we're down here. If we're messing with an exercise like this. You're just really looking for novelty at this point. If programmed properly, there's some value, but yeah, it's overused because it looks cool to the consumer. And so you see a lot of media, social media, people presenting it as this like great exercise. And then as a consumer, you're looking at, oh my God, that looks crazy, it looks tough. That's why it got popular. Next question is from Susie Grace Lopez. What cues would you suggest for dumbbell rows? I feel them in my traps. Yeah, so two cues I like a lot is take your shoulder blade and put it in your back pocket. So you're squeezing back and down at the same time. And then here's another cue that I learned years ago as a kid, which is pull with your elbow. That one always gave me better connection and my client's better connection to rows because when I tell people to pull with their elbows, they're less likely to pull only back and get this forward shoulder when they're focusing on the elbow. A couple of things I wanna make clear. One, your traps are involved in this. So it's not wrong to feel your traps, but the most common thing when someone feels it more in their traps than anywhere else is they're shrugged up, yeah, when you row in, what you're doing is you're doing this. You're shrugging up. And the cue of retracting and depressing first, which also- Tall chest. Okay, here's an example too, where like this is where coaching can make all the difference. And like, again, on the internet, how we, that's wrong, this is right. Like if you see me do a row, you see me take the row through full range of motion. I'm gonna flare out my lats and then I'm gonna come all the way in. You're gonna see all this kind of movement going on. When I first teach a row to a client, I actually keep them in a very fixed stationary position. I don't want any movement. I actually don't even want them to roll. It's too much for them to control. To teach and control first. Exactly. It's too much going on there. I wanna teach them in this, they're gonna sit in this upright position, retract and depress, like you said, and they're just gonna just drive the elbows back. Like I said, pinch my finger in your back, squeeze the elbows, and I'm gonna keep them in this very fixed position until they learn what they're supposed to be engaging. Then I'm gonna progress them to teach them how to, okay, now that you understand what muscles we're working and engaging, now I'm gonna let you take this through full range of motion. And now let's try and stay connected to those muscles while you do that. By the way, it's easier to learn how to do a row properly in a seated position than it is in a bent over position. So like bent over dumbbell row or barbell row, if you don't have good connection to proper posture, it's gonna put you in bad position. So I would always start people in a seated chest supported row or seated cable row before I ever had them do to traditional barbell row. Next question is from Guy Pettigrew. What are your favorite landmine exercises? Justin, you really... Yeah, I've been playing with these a lot. Yeah, I mean, the one that we've programmed probably the most is gonna be a trunk twist. And I just like that because there's not a whole lot of devices or exercises out there other than like a medicine ball or you can really get that kind of loaded rotation in the cable, for instance. But just because it kind of takes a lot of the harsh gravitational forces of like the vertical forces down, it has a really nice feel to it now. My favorite exercise though, to use these now that I've really been experimenting with, which I wish I would have known before training athletes was doing power clean or clean and jerk. It's so explosive, but it has that element of safe control and safety. And it's got everything you want as a coach. That's because one end of the barbell is anchored into the ground. Yeah, you can't get away from you. Yeah, it's not getting away from you. The technique of it, you can learn it in a day. I mean, of course you're not gonna load a lot initially because you really, it is dynamic. It's very dynamic, but you can get that explosive fast twitch movement in a safe controlled way, which I love it. So I love the kneeling shoulder press, which it's similar to like a Viking press. And I love the Viking press from my shoulder. I remember when we first found the Viking press, I was like, oh my God, this became one of my favorite movements for the shoulders. And you get that similar feeling in a kneeling position with the shoulder press on the landmine. So that's one of my favorite. Yeah, I like, I've never trained cleans on it, but just watching it, I can see that the skill acquisition required to develop power from that movement is so much less required than a traditional clean, which is, this is a challenge. Like training power, you know, as a trainer, it's important you develop, you strengthen power for anybody. It's just, now the challenge is how do I scale this back so that's appropriate for the client? But everybody needs to have an element of being able to explode or change directions because that's just life, that's how life is. The challenge with some of the best exercises for that, especially as people progress is like, okay, now we're gonna do a hang clean. Well, it's gonna take us six months to learn how to do this properly before we can develop power. With the landmine, it's like, like you said, like, you know, as long as you're fit and there's no major issues, like you learn the movement and now you can start training power right away. And then you see that you reap the benefits of it. So, look, if you're a hard gainer, you have trouble building muscle. You can't put on weight. We have a hard gainer guide and it's totally free. You can get it at mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on social media. Justin is at Mind Pump, Justin. 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