 Please maybe from this man who is the head odds maker at Fandall Sportsbook. The number one sports book in America. And although we are in constant competition with this lad who is hilarious and very big brain. He's a good conversation and we appreciate him for that. Ladies and gentlemen, John Shearer. What's going on? How are you doing, Pat? I'm okay, John. How are you? Really good. Thanks. I think you got the wrong intro there. Somebody else on later or? I'm talking about you, John. What happened to Clay yesterday? You guys knew Clay was going to have a bad day. That's why everybody's parlays are just going to be fucked. Yeah, one for 10 will not get it done from Clay Thompson. The guys actually are a little bit down on him. They don't think that he's been his old self this season. Obviously he's shown glimpsons of it, particularly in some of the games in the last series, but we're a little bit down on him versus the rest of the market for sure. John, whenever you hear something like the Van Gundy Steve JV conversation on ESPN or on ABC last night about how there wasn't a technical, but Van Gundy was like, well, in any other game, this would be a technical. And then JV came on and said, well, with the how much time was left to score as the finals, the decisions that are being made in the calls and all that, do you have to take that into account whenever you're trying to predict NBA books and odds and everything like that? Because of the history, the past, how refs have so much control. Is that something you guys dive into or no? Yeah, I think we're considering it. Really, when you talk about the totals and you see the suppressed totals that we see from the regular season and the post season, we know the rest let them play a decent bit more in the finals in particular. I think that's what we've seen so far. But you definitely see that contraction and the total points, which is all of that information like you alluded to that we have considered all the hysterics in terms of how it's played out in the past, certainly something we spend a lot of time on. You guys focus on the refs because like for instance in the NFL, whenever we find out the refs, I think it's Friday or Thursday of each week or maybe it's Saturday. I don't remember exactly which day of the week, but there's always a run through of what the refs like, hey, this ref likes to do this, these refs like to do this. This is a big thing. You guys have to keep a close tab on all of that, right? Because the Celtics are three and four and three and 12 with one particular ref calling their games. You guys look into that whenever you're setting the lines for everything or you just try to stay away from it? It's a good question actually. We've had some conversations in the past about the impact of referees when they're announced, like you said, and you definitely will see some sharp money play into the market, maybe not just necessarily with us, but into the market price in general when refs are announced. So there's certainly an edge to be had if you go and actually do the research on each ref and their propensity to call files or that's obviously the easiest way to assess it, but there's certainly an impact. We don't really spend a whole lot of time. It would take a lot of work for us to go and kind of tag each ref, try and watch the video, get the analysis that it all is done through actual video review and the people that are betting because of referees on totals. We find that we don't really get hit in the mornings when the refs are announced and then the market kind of corrects itself. So I have plenty of people out there doing the short work for us. How many people on the NBA team putting together odds for the finals here? Pretty much all of them, to be honest, some of them are Celtics fans, though, so I find we're a little bit biased towards Boston. How many though? How many people is that? You don't have to give me an exact. Is it tens? Twins? Yeah, there's probably 10 of the guys, obviously the senior guys, the guys that have been trading it, like I said before, on the show for 10, 15 years, they'll take ownership of the finals in particular and express their opinions where they think that they make a difference and that's unfortunately on the Celtics this time around. So it is people we are battling against whenever we're trying to make these bets. It felt like for a while you guys were putting up boosts that were hitting like a lot. The boosts were almost maybe the most sure bet you guys had on the entire book there for a bit. You guys are getting real hot. How do you pick what's boosted and what do you try to stay away from in that? Honestly, I think it depends on the day, what's on, what people are betting on. We certainly try to boost the most topical, you know, you're not boosting, you know, Looney's points in the game, for example, it's always Tatum, it's always Curry. They're the things that people want to bet on. So we try and appeal to what's topical, you know, what people are focused on and also try and offer a bit of value. Let's just get right into it. Last night's boost. Tatum and Steph to both score 30. How many did Steph have after three quarters? 29 points. How many did Tatum have after three quarters? 28. How many minutes did they play in the fourth quarter? Combined to zero. How'd you know? How'd you know? John? We just have a direct line. Steph said it'd be over after three quarters and you wouldn't see him again. Luckily, that's what happened. No, but whenever you see something like that happen, I assume you guys are ecstatic. You would have to be whenever the fourth quarter starting and it's like, oh, neither of the guys are playing. Oh, isn't that, oh, we perfectly put, this is the perfect boost right there. Like that's a dream for the book, right? For that to happen. Honestly, it is, but like, that's not the way that we try and think about it. We're not sitting there looking to try and, you know, win all of these boosts. The boosts are offered, honestly, you know, with genuine good faith. We want people have a good experience. We want to give them a bit of value, but it sure is nice. What was the other boost, John? I didn't see it. Connor, what was the other boost? There's Clay Thompson to have five three pointers. Oh, was it? Was it made five or attempts? Definitely wasn't attempt. What's your deal? What's your deal? And also, Horford, what's he so gunshot for? The guy taking your shots after having 26. That's your fucking guy. Every other game. He's going to have a huge one on Wednesday.