 Seriously though, you've got so many starters coming back on defense in the off-season. What's the process of trying to build on what you were able to do last year and improve if possible going into a new season? Well, we always have to improve. We have to find ways to improve. And I think that when you look at a lot of the guys that have played for us over the last couple of years, whether that be Kevin, Jeffrey, Harold, Amani, those guys have improved and they've played a lot of football for us. And I appreciate that on my end that guys that are very good players and have been for us have continued to try to find ways to improve. And we'll continue to look at ways that we can help them with scheme and also to continue to work the details, the technique and fundamentals. When a guy like Harold has a career high, it might be something where you may not be able to improve on, say, sack totals, but other areas of the game, other facets. Well, we're not really trying to focus on sack totals. I mean, I think that that's great, our ability to affect the quarterback. And there's a lot of ways to do that. And I'm hopeful that the guys that we send that are pressuring the quarterback can find ways to affect them. And so if the sacks come, great, but we have to affect the quarterback. Here it seems like you've had guys step up and become leaders of that defense. Coach Bowen had mentioned that David Long is really coming along. From your perspective, how is he as far as grabbing that mantle as one of the leaders? Well, I mean, I think just his ability to be here to work and compete. You know, David's a passionate player. I always appreciate that about him. I feel like our relationship has gotten better since, you know, each and every year and, you know, try to harness some of that passion that he has. And, you know, it's just been good to see him continue to grow in our scheme and an understanding of what's going on. More active doing more things today than when we last saw him. Would that be accurate? And are you seeing signs of progress? You know, I don't really track, you know, each and every guy's daily, you know. I see the mileage, I see the speed, but I don't, I would imagine that that's consistent with everybody that's been out there that, you know, good speed, good workload. So, you know, I'm not saying that it was just going to be more or less, but today there was good work. Albert Breer said many more in quarterback. A lot of teams are at the draft process. We're turned off of Traylin Berks' weight. How have you seen his conditioning kind of come along since he's come to Nashville? Who said that? Albert Breer. You know, we're excited to have Traylin. You know, we feel good about each and every guy we draft. That's why we draft him. So, you know, he's gotten better each day that he's been here. You can let Albert know. Traylin did ask us to ask you if we're wondering about the inhaler. He said, asked Graves about it. So, anything you can add? No. I mean, I think that some guys need inhalers. I mean, Carter used one before and, you know, his brother did it. So, I don't know, I just rely on the trainer and our medical staff to try to take care of these guys and communicate with me. But I do feel like everybody here has gotten in better shape and especially coming off the long weekend. How normal is it for, especially for a rookie to come in this time of year and be a little behind in conditioning? Obviously, they haven't played in a while. Well, you just understand what the process that they go through as far as, you know, getting ready for everything that they're training for as a speed-based measurement to combine short distance explosion. And then we're asking them to come here and start performing some football that's done over the course of time. That could be six or eight seconds long. They go on visits. They go through a draft process. They go to a rookie premiere, which is all things that we know. And so, we have to be a part of the solution to getting them ready to play football. And I think that's what we're doing here and we'll continue to do it. It's why we keep them, you know, two extra weeks after our veterans leave from veteran minicamp. And those guys can stay and really start to make some strides in conditioning. Got some changes in personnel, obviously. How much will the ideas of Tim Kelly also kind of influence where you had in the past? I think that every coach that we bring in, we bring in with the idea that they're going to be able to bring input. And that's something that I have to make sure stays consistent, whether that be Chase on special teams, Jim Schwartz, Tim Kelly, and anybody that we bring in. They have to feel comfortable enough to have a voice in the meeting room. Ultimately, I make a decision, but Todd and Shane and Auk would do that before I would. And then, ultimately, I can say, hey, I really like this or let's go in a different direction. I'm not trying to just explain it. When you leave a meeting room as a position coach, you have to feel comfortable that the ideas that you brought forward, you know, were heard and were talked through. And then, ultimately, the coordinators or the head coach made a decision that was best for the team. And then you move on. And I think we've done that. I think everybody's tried to bring ideas, so I don't think that would be any different with Tim. Just because there's no contact doesn't mean he can't make significant gains with his punch and his upper body. How much can a guy do on stuff like that off the field in the offseason? And how much do you expect him to gain between now and the start of camp in that department? Well, I think, you know, not having pads on, you know, sometimes the targets aren't moving. And even in a jog through, you know, you saw just with a little bit of addition to the third down that we had today. You know, those guys aren't sitting ducks. They're not just going to stand there. They're going to move. They're going to go different places. They're going to run games. And I think that this was a good way for us to see some of that and then start to continue to rep some of that. That, you know, it's easy to maybe get better at a stationary target, but we're going to have to really improve with movement and handling movement and games on third down. What would you like about DeMorgas-Walker that made you want to bring him here? Maybe what could his role potentially be? I think the role, you know, Jim, is he's showed versatility throughout his career, liked him all the way back to Florida State when I was in Houston, you know, trying to figure out where he may fit, whether that be standing up, you know, he's played a multiple positions across the front on the edge inside, plays with great, you know, effort, which I, you know, appreciated. He wanted to be here and, you know, it's been really good so far. Does he have a level of maturity that's sometimes unique for a guy his age coming in? Have you seen that so far? You know, I think the maturity, I think that's really hard to identify right now. I don't think that there's enough stress, you know, on these guys physically with the rigors of training camp and, you know, day after day, but I think that he's, you know, come in, he's worked hard, tried to study, take advantage of the opportunity that he's gotten. But, you know, some of that stuff's hard to define until, you know, there's a lot more in play with tickets and family and everything else that goes along with it. Right now, we're just trying to bring them along. And I think Chick and Mitch and Dr. Sheila all help on that maturity, you know, with the rookie program and what they can offer them after we get done with them here with football. Let's continue to develop for Dylan Radins. Are you guys getting to a point where, like, you see him at a particular role as opposed to multiple ones? I don't know right now. I mean, I think that, you know, he's been working predominantly at, you know, right tackle, but, you know, we'll kick in there inside based on, you know, the rotation that Keith wants or who he wants to look at. And I don't think that right now is really the time. I think those guys are doing a lot of stuff together and the jog-through stuff really is toned down a little bit. When guys have had footing issues at Nissan Stadium, you've made it about their shoe selection. I've never once said a guy got hurt because of his shoe. No, but you said guys need to choose their... Come on now. Okay, clarify what you've said there. I'm wondering about some of the guys. About a foot injury on a stadium? No, I didn't say anything about injury. I've said when they slip, your indication has been it's not the purpose. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we just joke about having shoes at work. You know, I'm at all... Are your guys' shoes all broken out here because they seem to be falling quite a bit? Sometimes you cut off the wrong foot. Sometimes the grass is slick. I don't know. We've got 80 guys working and it's all the same condition. So, I mean, it just... We got to stay on our feet, whether you're covering a kickoff, whether you're covering a punt in your gunner, whether you're a wide receiver running around, usually bad things happen. If a guy falls down on a kickoff, you know, bad things happen. If a receiver falls down and he's getting the ball thrown to him, chances are, you know, it's going to be intercepted. Offensive linemen slips, the quarterback gets sacked. Running back slips, fumbles the ball. You know, so we got to stay on our feet. Some of the things maybe differently from Dylan here during the offseason as he gets ready for a year or two than maybe you were seeing as a rookie? Well, we didn't have him really. I mean, we didn't have an opportunity to see him and grow. And I think his conditioning level is really good. I think he's recognized that that can be a huge advantage for him. You know, over the course of 65 or 70 snaps, you know, you're going to lose a couple matchups. I mean, that's the nature of this business and that's why it's great. And so I think he's going to try to take care of his conditioning to make sure that that's one area where he can, you know, consider a strength and then continue to develop, you know, the other skills needed to play offensive line. Rookie kickers are usually long shots to make a team. This kids' shoot act has a real strong leg. How do you try and assess those guys when you evaluate them in terms of knowing if they can handle the actual pressure of, you know, what it takes to be an NFL kicker? Like, what do you consider a long shot? Like a 10 to 1 at Belmont? No, no, no. Or like 12 to 1. Usually kickers kind of bounce around a lot before they find a home. Very few of them go one place and stay there. We've tried to provide competition. Those young guys have a strong leg. And I think that the competition in practice has been good. You know, we'll have to see them kick in the games and the preseason games and then, you know, ultimately make a decision, you know, at the end of preseason. But, you know, just like everybody else, they're going to get an opportunity to win a job. What have you seen from him last two weeks? Speed, length. I think he's gotten better. You know, I tried to explain to the team that wasn't the greatest start to the offensive. You know, seven on seven. We took a break, did special teams. And then that's what you have to do. Hooper has to come back and make a play. Josh has to make a play, you know, but then we can't put the ball on the ground. So I think that these practices can be great reminders to, you know, sometimes you don't start the game great. We've been in that position, unfortunately, before defensively. It's like, okay, you started out pretty well. How are you going to, how are you going to finish? So Josh was a part of that process of coming back and making a play after, you know, probably a below average offensive period. What are the impressions of Roger McCreary and how he's acclimated into the defense? Coach Bohn was saying how he just seems to be competitive even in the meeting room as a rookie just in terms of getting information. Yeah, it doesn't say a whole lot. You know, I mean, just kind of shows up, does his job, has a good demeanor, has a really cool DB demeanor that doesn't get too discouraged. You know, every DB and every player gets beat. And he doesn't seem to get too discouraged, kind of comes back and lines up and tries to play the next snap. We're giving him a lot of information. He's playing inside, playing outside. So it's just a good early start. It looked like the defense was kind of all over the ball, just around the ball a lot during some of those reps today. Roger had said after that, that's kind of been a point of emphasis, trying to make plays on the football, trying to force turnovers there. Is that something that you've been kind of preaching and how do you feel like they're doing that? Well, we've always been preaching it and we've always practiced it. I thought we improved last year statistically at the number of secondary PBU's or linebacker PBU's, something that wasn't at the line of scrimmage from a defensive lineman where you see guys stabbing through the pocket and using good technique and being close enough. So I think it's a fine line out here. We have to take care of each other. We'd like to stay up and make sure that we're avoiding contact at all possible here in offseason, but it was good to see. Will you use all your OTA dates? What are some things you do when you're not on the field for OTAs? I don't think we'll probably use entire gamut of them, but I think today was a good work day and some heat tomorrow will come back and we lift, we meet, try to take advantage of that time. Still have an opportunity to walk through, get the veterans out of here and walk through with the rookies. I think that's been really beneficial. So when we're not practicing, they try to get a good lift in and get some really good meeting time in, watch the tape from today. I understand you're seeking versatility out of all of those guys, but wouldn't it be good to be able to pigeonhole a second round pick and say, we have a hole at right tackle? Oh, here's a guy who dropped it to play right tackle. He's our right tackle. I just want to keep working on him and develop him and give him an opportunity to earn a role. Everybody comes back from injuries differently, but you impressed so far with Robert Woods and what you're seeing out here after ACL in mid-November? Yeah, these guys don't have to be here. They don't have to, it's not mandatory that they rehab here and it's great that he's here being a veteran leader and I know that him getting injured is nothing that he could control. He's controlling what he can control, which is his rehab and he does it and the attitude in which he does it with getting here early and it's been really cool for Caleb to be with him and as they go through their rehab process. Would you like things more cemented up there, like by the end of minicamp? No, I don't think that that's something that it's really, again it's hard to evaluate offensive and defensive linemen without pads on. We're running these plays as a jog through to install and get guys to know what to do and so the evaluation for all offensive and defensive linemen isn't going to happen before June 13th. We will identify guys that we think have a potential to help us but then once we get to training camp and pads come on there's always those guys that end up just surprising you.