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You know, it's interesting is that the kind of human functions that we have Like adaptations and the way we respond to certain stimuli in our environments Which are the result of you know, if we think about how much time humans have been on earth and we look at That total time Living the way we do now with this ridiculous abundance of food and how easily accessible it is I mean fraction of time. Yeah, like how Unactive we are inactive we are and how safe it is and a lot of stuff That's like like less than 1% right the majority of the time that humans have been on earth were in this radically different environment and so here's where I'm going with that, right? So I read this study That now is directly tying The role that fat cells play in cognitive decline. So fat cells actually Produce these, you know cytokines and inflammatory markers that contribute to Cognitive decline, but then you think to yourself like why would our own cells do that? Well, it's because under the Circumstances that where humans have been around for so long. That's not an issue, right? Our bodies evolved with little food Like food was hard calories. I should say we're hard to find we were constantly active and In that scenario your body. It's like it needs to to evolve to Conserve calories it needs to evolve to be able to store energy because Excess energy that stored is insurance against what's probably gonna happen, which is we're not gonna have enough food Tomorrow or next week or the whole month or whatever, but in the context of now It's like it's like we've taken this adaptation that evolved for this scenario and in the current scenario It's totally dysfunctional. Is that why we're living in idiocracy right now? Dude Yeah, that movie's so true. Wow. No, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, where's the drive? Where's the drive to you know adapt in and pursue, you know, another means When your body signal is that we have abundance. It's wild. Yeah, so wild. It's like if you for most of human history people's poor health was not a result of being sedentary sedentary and Over-eating like that just didn't happen. It wasn't like you're you know, like we're in our caves, you know, and we're out hunting And I'm what happened Adam. Oh, you know what happened? Yeah, his back hurts because he's not moving enough You know, it's like why is his back hurt? Well, you know, because he's been lifting rocks all day Why did Justin die, you know, he didn't have enough fat on his body He got too lean in the end of dying. Now, do you think that we do you think we will adapt in that direction and in our Lifetime, let's say like do you think that we will get to a point where our body start to get used to this over Consumption and it doesn't affect us negatively as much as you know, this also highlights to you by the way Is you know, I one of things that surprised me about fasting was how sharp and good I felt Yeah, I would have assumed that I would feel slower and cloudier and not as sharp but the Direct opposite is what ended up happening. I that was one of the most fascinating things about Fasting for the first time. I never fasted for 24 hours. I think a lot of people probably had that same thought Yeah, and because of the hunger, right signal, right? Like that is uncomfortable You know, you get that sort of pain, you know in the stomach you get the anger and everything that goes with it It's like you don't realize it on the other side of that There's so much clarity like your brain just seems to function better. It's well. It's just counter It's counter to what you were taught as a kid You remember your wheel mom getting ready for the day you had a test, you know And load up on the pancakes and serve up and bacon and eggs and stuff that want to have a full stomach lots of enter We want to energy cram the energy in there, right? So it's sitting in class like nodding falling asleep because you just had a bit put a bunch of pancakes Yeah, okay, so you know this is you know, it's interesting about this You've ever seen like videos like I like Shark Week on Discovery Channel super cool, right dude who doesn't yeah No, and you ever watch the the like you see these videos of these divers that are swimming With like great white sharks right next to them Yeah, or like, you know people who are hanging out with these dangerous animals and you're like How are they not being eaten? It's because the animal just ate the animal just ate So it's totally safe to swim like don't swim next to in a great white that hasn't eaten in a while Right because he's gonna eat you right now. Okay, so where's this going when you don't eat? This is a hack when you don't eat as a human Evolutionarily speaking it makes sense that your senses are gonna sharpen for a second until you run out of energy Which takes a while but everything's gonna sharpen to get you better a more effective at hunting or whatever And if you're fully fed Then it's okay to be kind of lazy and tired because your body's like we already got food and we have energy So it kind of makes sense but back to what you said about the evolution. I Don't I don't think we'll evolve it that way not because our bodies can't evolve but because evolution takes so long That I don't think we're gonna allow it to happen like I don't think we're all just gonna allow ourselves to die of Overconsumption and non-activity. We're hacking it and constantly figuring it out with medic Medication and exercise and ways to keep ourselves alive So the evolutionary pressures aren't necessarily there But if we allowed it to just happen it would be thousands of years You don't think we're gonna just be like genderless blobs in space Maybe I don't know I feel like it's going there. Maybe unless we Let's be attached to maybe part computer part. Yeah, you never know. Yeah No, I mean we're not gonna allow it to happen because before the evolution before those evolutionary pressures take over We'll we'll figure it out with you know technology and medicine and stuff like that But it's so weird dude. It is so it's funny because okay, obviously my parents You know poor immigrants and if you go back just just my grandfather's generation that my grandfather Both my grandfather's grew up very differently They grew up the way most Americans ancestors grew up in the late 1800s because they're in Sicily So they were super poor. It's like my grandfather lived in a one cement room and Him and his nine siblings were in one side mom and dad another side all divided by a sheet This is how they divided the room and the donkey was in the in the in the cement room. That's how they lived, right? so it was super crazy super hard and You know when I would when I went to Sicily last time and talked to my grandfather We were talking about this and he goes it's so funny when I hear my grandkids talk about like their neck hurting or their back Hurting because they watch TV all day or what he goes when I he goes my pains aches and pains came from like Hurting myself working like real things that contributed and then he was like it's funny because you know I was into working out and he's like it's funny that you go to the gym To to do hard things to build your body. He goes bad simulate it. It's so we're simulating hard work because our body is designed to Accomplish these well you remember we all speculated years ago on that was a big part of the rise of the off-school course racing Yeah, it's because we have got primal side of you Yeah, there's just it's that we want to do what subconsciously we need that you know And I think a lot of people don't realize that and I think that has a lot to do imagine You know going back, you know, if you 500 years you could travel, right? So when 500 years ago travels in forward of time and you and you are seeing an obstacle course racer Wait a second. You do this on purpose and you pay People are going to give money to go do this stuff like that would just totally blow your mind You know, like this is that's every day. I have to do that. You know, it's so funny the key to surviving and thriving in the past was being the one that could find the most food and Construct your life in the safest way possible so you could move the least doing it all The currently currently the key to long healthy life is abstinence. It's avoiding things It's not seeking out the most food. Everybody could do that. Yeah. It's who can abstain You know what this reminds me of and this is connected I was watching this interview with I think it was Jordan Peterson and they were talking about the effect of Pornography on the brain and he made this point that blew me away. He said the average person today Well could see more naked people more naked women in one day Then most humans would have seen in their entire lives. It's wild to think that doesn't doesn't affect your mind or your brain It's amazing isn't isn't it's of course it does like that. We didn't evolve to have that much variety So there's gonna be side effects. Well, I have to segue into this because this this did you know? 2018 and I don't know if like we talked about this when it came out, but like Disney Actually acquired porn hub Shut up. No, did you look it up? No. Yeah, there's no way that got by me. No way dude There's no way it's so it snopes this guy or snopes Be a better Snopes. Yeah, there's this me snopes this guy did put Disney. They would be crucified Justin I know the dude. I've heard this from multiple podcasts and I've read this on a couple different articles I don't know how Qualified these articles. Hey Doug. How come are you P and your browser just comes right up? It's a joke that never gets tired Come on Doug, what are you seeing? What do you see? This is what I'm seeing is that it's owned by mind game geek is the name of the owner of porn hub Yes, what have you what have you googled from from Disney acquires my or porn hub? I'm looking at it. I have a couple articles. I could send no way Yeah, I'm see that's gotta be that's gonna be like the ultimate role. It's got come on like any be that I mean But I've heard this again. Hey saying that is like a streaming of strategy to well, no, of I mean anybody to own It's satire Cuz they had something in there about like triple X men and all this Can I tell you something right now so I like this amazing. I did not know about I looked this up, too Well, Doug was looking it up. I'll look it up And I put in the you know the search does Disney owned porn hub and if you go down like five Recommendations down it's porn hub and it says Disney porn videos Yeah, so they know it's so brilliant and then they get you to look at their videos or it has to do with it Probably it all started from that. It was wasn't it you or who said that you brought it up on the show I think so that one of the hacks to making sure the The porn gets pulled off or something no one could share is play Disney music Backgrounds. Yeah, isn't it someone said that I forget who said that as a joke said that it's something like if you ever make a sex tape That's right Disney music in the back because they'll pull it down. They'll never yeah, right, right? So I wonder if now now here's here's along those lines now Here's we're in this direction funny like how many articles if you look just like like that verify There's a lot, you know, of course. It's bullshit But here's how you know your satire is effective is when people start to believe it, right? Yeah So this is what's along those lines believable. Have you guys seen those like conspiracy theories that Disney will will insert like flashes of like You know Made in the clouds there's like a dick and you know in the the priest whatever had like a bone a little mermaid It's the the castle is a little castle that's what lying king the Simba does this with his paws and the dust comes up and says sex and Aladdin when he's flying through the tunnel It says something sexual on there like what if you said you could I've done I've like done your homework I have I mean I was weird But we had little brothers and sisters and they all had did and I was a teenager when all this information was coming out So I have little brothers and sisters. We have every Disney classic that's out Yeah, and this news comes out and of course me being a teenage boy I went and like researched all of them and they are they're true like the the front there It is right there the castle on the front has you know very much His face has a G string but yeah, so you know what I okay, so here's my theory about this I don't think it's some weird conspiracy that Disney's trying to bring your kids just some bored animators. Yes Yes, so you know old video games they would oftentimes Designers would put little Easter eggs in there. Yeah, just amongst each other So it's like all of us are working and we're working hard and we're making this product And I'm like Adam check this out, you know This screen whatever and you laugh and nobody will see it because it's just that that's what I think it is Well, yeah, we're seeing that we're seeing the example that with Roblox. We brought up the whole strip club thing It's like it's like these little hacks that these guys that are creating this stuff that you could create it No one probably all the amount of code. It probably takes to write, you know one of those games like how they're gonna find out Or that's from well, I have some real news And I'm not satire. Yeah, not satire. It's confirmed It's real, you know how we talked not that long ago I talked about trying to bring like positive, you know, you know Topics like, you know being consistent with that So I'm always looking for stuff like that and I don't want to force it to where I'm just talking about something stupid Just because it's positive, but this one was really cool and it's going viral right now I've seen a lot of people post on it and I think it's called dad's on duty Did you guys see this that happened? Oh It's a dad's that are preventing the fight. Yes, what a cool story, right? So it's at Southwood high school It is it Louisiana that works at Louisiana saw it Southwood high school. It was like a huge brawl or something Well, it actually multiple so this since the beginning of the school year They were having a lot of these like big fights. I mean big 20 30 kids going They showed a bunch of clips and videos of this happening on a semi regular basis at school and one of the ways that they decided to combat this was the fathers of a lot of the kids came together and You know, they got their little shirts on that say dad's on duty and are hanging out on the campus And that's been going on now for months and not a single fight has broken. I know though You got ten dads on campus. You're not gonna throw down. I know it's I thought that was a beautiful display of masculinity right there Yeah, and what a what a great response to that, you know, I just thought that was a really cool thing to see a bunch of dads That came together that had obviously not all every dad could probably do that But the dads that could came together and decided to do that and like what a positive impact It is, you know, and in my high school, we had this one teacher who was exceptionally effective at Stopping fights because I'm not gonna say his name. So I don't know if he wants because he's also a little extreme But he was a big dude. He looked like he probably lifted weights a lot in his youth just this giant man And if a fight broke out Like he'd run across camp and everybody saw and he's a very imposing man run across campus And he would grab both kids and tackle them On the ground and people were afraid to fight because this teacher was gonna come across and you're like, yeah I don't I don't know if I want to never get away with that today. I know But he was but I mean, it's effective. I Mean so was the ruler when they used to smack kids To shit kept everybody that's hilarious No I thought I actually read somewhere that there's some private schools that still allow that say there's some I think there I think there are not allow not in California Corporal punishment. Yeah, like I still think that look up Doug and see if the the paddle still exists in some schools I think I read that actually long ago. That's so strange to me I remember having that epiphany as a new dad and thinking I would never Physically hit like someone smaller like that much smaller than me and why is my why is it okay for me to do that to my kid? I mean, I know some people listening are gonna I was raised that way. Okay, so well, you I got spanked and stuff But you weird, it's just weird to me I mean you say that but I would challenge that with you also draw everything back to evolution and that we're all animals And so have you ever watched a monkey with it sibling? You see I mean and there's not that that monkey doesn't love that it's baby But it's a quick way to get them to understand that no you don't do that I think we're smart animals and so we evolve past that well you as an adult have but the infant hasn't well Yeah, but you know, I'm just playing devil's advocate because you say stuff You know you draw to evolution all the time, but then when it's something like that that challenges I think the value came from I think the value came from when you had you know seven kids and You're you you know, you're a you're a mom at home and this is you know 70-80 years ago and you're doing all this stuff by hand You got all your kids going crazy and you don't got time to like Sit down and punish them and teach them and all you got is look I got if I don't get this done if I we're not gonna have clean clothes I can't make dinner because it takes me two hours to do it. And so you smack You know, I think that's the wrong reason right there. That's because mom's stressed emotional. It's not it's really more Catching something in the moment that at that time in their life. They're say they're two years old They're gonna put the of their finger or fork in the socket and it's more reactive to let them know That's dangerous and a whack of a stop is a don't ever do that again And they'll remember that the next time they're thinking about putting it and they're not at an age Where I could sit down go, okay, listen max. Yeah, maybe that has 220 volts and that could mean he doesn't get that Maybe that's different though. I get what you're saying with the quick light. Yeah, you know shock them That's the only way I don't like this like that like spanking. Yeah, why don't trouble come here Yeah, I don't subscribe to the you know, dad's gonna spank you when you get home when you know, it's been four hours later Dad comes home. He didn't even catch the behavior or anything like that and then he does it But I mean I mean Jordan Peterson talks about this in his 12 rules And I you know, I totally subscribe with the way he makes this point And it's like the the hard thing is that there's a lot of parents that I'll let their their their emotions Dictate whether this the spanking is warranted or not angry. Yeah, exactly That is all the wrong reason to do that But if it's a matter of safety or maybe my let's say my son with a stick and he's getting ready to hit another kid on The head, you know because he doesn't know better He thinks that's play, you know whacking him and be like, no, we don't hurt people We don't hit people like I don't know I just very very degrees of consequences I think and and that's just kind of something that needs to be outlined and created, you know But yeah, like removal of emotion like in any situation where you're going to punish or to reprimand or You know needs to be applied But like you kind of vary that based off of the severity of the wrong I imagine too it matters on kids I mean you guys are perfect because you have very extreme different kids as far as behavior-wise like you have very mellow Quiet reserve kids Justin's got the two animals. Yeah. Yeah, they're they're his super boy. Yeah, they say his boy his two boys I I mean, I imagine there's many times where Justin has to assert himself as the alpha to get them to calm down because they're two boys that are growing up and Naturally challenging and being trying to assert himself and dad has to come in and kind of be the alpha every once in a while So I think I don't I may never have to spank max He has this demeanor about him where I can say I mean we've taught him no Thank you like I can tell my son who's about to put his a fork in a in a socket. No, thank you. No, thank you And he doesn't do it right but not every kid's like that, you know saying so maybe I have the luxury that he doesn't he doesn't need that But if I had one of those kids, it's like I'm gonna do it. Anyways My stories I would hear like my dad when he was a kid manager, but again He grew up totally different don't totally different era poor and like tons of siblings But I remember he told a story about how it's a time and I say it out loud. It's terrible But we would laugh about it when we talk about yeah, but like he was a kid and he was he's been working And trying to earn money since he was nine and he would give the money to his mom because they needed it So nine years old he stopped going to school and he went to work Well every once in a while my grandmother would give him a little bit of money from the money that he earned And he did a really good job of saving it right so when he was like 12 he bought this like half broken bike that someone was gonna throw away, but it still worked So he had this bike super excited and he was riding it and he came home late for dinner Like really late for dinner and my grandfather who part of one of his jobs was he had these like three-wheeled I don't recall but so it's like three-wheeled Like vehicles with the big like you sell fruit out of the back or whatever. Oh, yeah So he's like if you're late again, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna you're not gonna have your bike anymore Well, he was late again my grandfather ran over it My dad said he was Dad of me then something like that right or I was also the kid who I would have I would have always rather get the My mom had a wooden spoon that we used to get whacked with all right So I would way rather have that then go to your room and you stay in your room all day today And I could hear kids playing outside like that torture. Yeah beat me, please I would I would take the You know, let's get this over with you know, yeah, that's how I was I totally would rather okay I messed up. I did wrong give me my punishment. Let me go back to playing with my friends But to take my play away from my Cuz I got we got spanked as kids right but I remember I figured out this hack with my mom where Especially as I got a little older and I got a little stronger if she went to like spank me or whatever or hit me I Would hug her around her arms and she gets so mad right and scream And then I kiss her and I keep kissing her face and telling her I love her Oh, and it would I would get I would win every time because her she couldn't remain mad at first it elevated Ah, she'd scream and I'd pick her like feet off the floor so her little legs will be kicking And then I kiss her I love you. I'm sorry. I love you a lot and then she would like kind of calm down a laugh This is the You know, it's funny to till this day, you know, I'm a you know, 40 year old man Right, I'll be at well dinner at my mom's house or whatever and I'll make a joke or whatever and it's my mom's instinct is to quack You know Jessica's like your mom whacked you the back of the head. Oh, I don't never go You guys are watch a Saturday night fever with John Travolta Yeah, remember the scene where he's he remember he's spending all his time like combing his hair Whatever and he's like trying to look cool And then he goes to dinner and his he's like it's like tense dinner with his mom and dad and everybody's fighting whatever and his Dad keeps hitting him with the back of the head. You remember that scene and Jessica never watching it laughing cuz she gets hit in the back of the head You know, I work on my hair a long time and you hit it. He hits my hair I Know exactly what this is what this is all about. Yeah, there was it was the other day We were talking about Justin's party and it just couldn't find the place to insert this conversation But I have to do we're making fun and having fun right now So I have to like say something I thought was really funny and I couldn't find the place to insert it in the last Conversation was actually taking Courtney's party birthday, but I threw it. Well, yeah, you threw it, right? So but I love the video by the way of the you guys do what are you guys doing karaoke? Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, he got just got down the bus He doesn't need to carry okay to do that He doesn't know the part that was funny and I didn't get a chance to tease him or bring it up on the show That I thought was really interesting because you always tease him and call him like a mountain cholo. Yeah, so This is this is officially the Santa Cruz uniform So this isn't just just in here. Oh people showed up Well, literally I felt so fish out of water because I was wearing like a gray sweater and blue jeans like everybody had vans on a flannel And a bucket hat like every single every single dude that was there had a different color flannel vans in a bucket hat Spoken like a true flatlander Did you guys wear did you wear dickies too? No, I mean I was wearing blue jeans, but yeah, I mean the dickies is a thing for sure dickies and Yeah, that's sort of like part of the whole that's where I grew up in San Jose Right and where I went to school that your skaters kind of dressed that like that a little bit Yeah, and then my you know what they would call cholos my friends that would dress that way So when I see you like super white dude, you're up in the mountains and you dress that way. That's why I called you Yeah, it's like a hybrid of both. Yeah, well that you you definitely could have spotted Justin's friends like right away I knew like all these are his boys for sure. It wasn't like a random husband 40s friends like those are Justin's boys right there for sure They like everyone has a uniform but what it also reminded me of and I wanted to bring up was Did you know that the Ori sells flannels now? Yes, dude Oh, I didn't know you knew yeah Well like on record like I was talking with Joe Kudlow, you know the owner like forever I'm like listen man. You guys ever throw flannel out there rock the hell out of that thing Yeah, and they have them now. They just ordered two of us. Oh, you did okay I didn't think you knew so I wanted to bring that up I was I was going through their stuff and looking at the like I got their catalog Sent to me and I was like flipping through and I'm like what dude. I was flannel excited about that No My son likes wearing them too. It's funny. I love them too. I mean, they're great They're comfortable. I so I remember my experience was I was in elementary school Which went up to sixth grade and then I went to junior high and my junior high was in a little bit of a different part of town And they different, you know kids from different parts of San Jose would come and I remember pulling up for the first day and In that era, so we're talking like mid 90s There was what was that movie American me was it was big remember American me With the the gangs in the jail and all that stuff and blood in blood out, right? So my familiarity with that had a horrific rape scene with that. Oh, it's terrible With that type of gang you like you just look in in culture. I'd never seen in real life I just saw in the movies We're pulling up to school and I swore to God dude I was like word what is going on kids wearing hairnets and they had the you know One button up at the top and the wearing the Cortez and the dickies and just and you know, and you had your you had your Nortenos, which was like they all wore the red and then you had your Serenios wearing the blue and then I was like, oh my god. Where am I going to school? This is this is gonna be it took a while before schools really started to crack down on that You know, we grew up in the era that it was kind of not policed early on. Yeah, you were your blue rag or your red Yeah, it was like on the way out when they really started to like when I was leaving like all the rules They're in place now like you can't wear like colors now not like that Yeah, most high schools even if you're at a school that doesn't have a uniform like well No, no solid colors, especially red and blue. They'll crack down on you So but that when we were in school that that wasn't a rule. No didn't become a rule till later on I mean they kind of was kind of a free for all back then and I remember there was one kid And I remember looking at him. He had like full-on mustache. This is like seventh grade big-ass kid And I remember being like wow this guy like why does he look so like mature and stuff like that? And then I find out he went to Juvie for like two years. So he had to go back to seventh grade Hey, Adam, yeah, listen, I don't want to get all in the weeds with this. Okay. Oh, we're not gonna we're not gonna redo the debate I don't want to see some bullshit plastic robot dishwashing thing right now show you kind of Have you guys see have you seen robot Gary? Yeah, I've you know it if you continue to hammer this I'm gonna continue to hammer the we're in a bubble and the in the ship's gonna crash that you've been saying for two years There yeah, yeah for two years that I told you ain't gonna have to get there So this is an article It's the it's Gary is the name of this robot and it says the robot who can do the household chores So this robot picks up toys dirty socks waters of plants serves food Strips bedsheets moves packages and he'll be on the market next year. Let's see it. Yeah, this is You you have to bring up. Well, I'll send you the link So you have to bring up what Carlos said who's like it in that space, right? So he's he's going to school right now. What was his degree Doug? Do you remember what his degree was? I expect you to remember all these things. Uh Some kind of engineering. Oh had Had some to do with anyways, he's like I tax. Yeah, exactly. He's he's in the space and He he actually thinks that I'll be right in the situation and one of the reasons he didn't say you'd be right He knew he was outnumbered and so you could tell that the way he was presenting that information You didn't want to hurt your feelings Basically what he was saying give you some kind of one of the things that's gonna be really difficult with the dish washing robot is the Ability for the robot to know if the dish is clean or not clean and to be able to decipher that from a scratch from a mark from coloring or actually food and dirt and He says that that's extremely complicated to get that done, bro. This is crazy. I'm just there right here. That's Gary That is Gary and it's designed to be they think it could be a great companion for senior citizens They think restaurants and stuff will use them cost fifty nine hundred bucks. It looks a little bit like Rocky This is it This is why it's the greatest film ever. No Listen, well, here's a deal. I can't wait. I'm gonna buy one. Hey, look at it. Did you see that right there? Hey, this is all simulated, too. It's not it's not even really doing it. Yeah, I'm sorry We're gonna get way to get excited. I at least have a little bit of at least Justin's with the cleaning the bathrooms Was that you actually got to watch a robot? Simulated yeah, this is weird This doesn't even come in the argument So how many simulations they have of us traveling in the orbit of the moon and doing all the He's got like but like a bars terrible dude. Okay, you lose that one. Okay. Okay. It's all right. We'll see Yeah, you know, it's you know, it's weird about this again. I don't want to next year's coming out though That's next year dude. You know, so here's the big like argument the big argument is you'll have all these robots and machines doing things for you and then when AI becomes self-aware and It goes to all these robots. Yeah, all these robots and machines will have memory of how they've been treated I have said this day one you guys go back. I am like, this is why I treat Siri like a queen You're all sweet you sweet Tucker. Yeah, I'm here. Oh, sir. You're the best I Catalog that yeah, he is a threat, you know Gary's gonna show up and be like, sorry. I must neutralize you. What Gary? Why would you do this? You've been a part of my family for five years. I will replay the tape, you know Kill him. Oh boy. Yeah. All right. So here's some other cool stuff. Justin. Did you see these uh really old? Prehistoric pure prehistoric paintings that they found we're some of the oldest ones. Okay the earliest prehistoric are Spain or Portugal Uh, I don't know if it was a cave in Portugal. I know that I don't know if it was there But I'm gonna read a little bit here and let you know, but this is the oldest one of the oldest ones that they found 170,000 years old is what they're estimating And the ham prints are they're saying now made by children. It's on the Tibetan plateau Oh, they're saying that it that it was children that made this How wild is that so the limestone on which the traces were imprinted dates to between 169,000 and 226,000 BC So they're saying that this makes the site the earliest currently known examples of this type of art Um in the world wild, right? Wow, isn't that wild when the person finds out like if you find that like I mean, do you get any of the money from that or are these all like people that I don't know what money Yeah, I don't think well, I mean it's gotta be someone would pay big money for that. Don't you think I don't think you can own it Well, they just yeah, we'll preserve it somehow by making it like a historical location or something But I doubt is that it right there. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy like I have tours for it Like that long ago They had this caught like they had the idea as these humans like I'm gonna put this for future people To see you know, which we take for granted, but I think that's so I think sometimes we overthink stuff too These kids just be kids fucking around, you know, I'm saying Just like you did when you were a kid and like then they were doing construction right up the street from your house And you're like the cement's wet and you're like it says stay away as a kid. What do you do? 250,000 years now they're fighting Justin's old drawing. Yeah, and they're gonna be like wow, these kids were so brilliant. They knew just They literally ran to the sky It's like no, dude. I was just drawing Oh, here we know the earliest the earliest concept of a helicopter 1999 we don't know the you know, you know, we we talked about um The trumps social media thing right and we we speculated on all that and um somebody recently So shout out to whoever this was that emailed into our team and Referred me to a podcast and I'll shout the podcast out. I listened to it for the first time the other day it's called all in podcast and economics politics cryptocurrency stocks like Um cool stuff stuff that I'm I'm interested in in hearing and these guys talked about Uh, they're definitely knowledgeable dudes in in the space. Like I don't know much about them I just listened one time But you could tell they knew what they were talking about and they actually broke down like Everything going on with that and one of the things I thought was really fascinating is like they it's there is like nothing Like they literally took code and copied and paste from something else. They there is no real platform. It's literally all it's actually the the The analogy they gave was like this is like an nft uh Company like it's it's all on trump everyone believes that there's such a need for that But it doesn't mean that it still won't take off because because they they now have like a Multi-billion dollar cap. They're like raising funds. That's right Yeah, so it's like sort of what do they call that when you like prepay for something or you're Right. Yeah, you're well, so there was so much how volatile it is. Okay. It went from $9 a share then this whole thing got announced to 150 something it went up well No 94 and then and then it went down to 59 and now it's back up to 65. It's all It's all speculative all and and the like the the guy who he has running it is like some real estate mogul in florida And the they were so they were they were breaking it all down and I was like, wow, that's really interesting that It's not even like a legit company yet But because everybody wants to see this happen They got enough people that are buying just on purely on speculation now And what that's caused is actually a legitimate possibility that he could do something with it But as of right now, it's like nothing. They're like is nothing. There's like no real code to support it There's no like real engineering team to support it The guy who's supposedly running it is like in real estate. He's real estate. He's not even a tech mogul Yes, crazy. I know speaking along those lines Did you guys oh, you you were the one that brought this up this let's go brandon deal Bro, did you see how many like number one song they have Five of the top either four or five of the top 15 downloaded songs right now on itunes or let's go or let's go brandon by different By different artists. So different artists have have have piggybacked off the let's go brandon thing Adele who's like an amazing artist like they're just like skyrocketed past her right? What did you guys so did you guys see? um Biden's performance at that town hall. No He was doing like the robot clenched fists. I'm gonna listen. I don't care where you stand But this is it looks like elder abuse. It really does he's obvious listen the guy's been in office for a long time And biden used to be super sharp if you watch his videos from 30 years ago 20 years ago He was I mean he was like the quint one of the quintessential politicians like fire sharp like just going for And what he is now it's he's clearly it's clearly cognitive decline. Something is not right I'm not saying he's crazy and a lot of people everybody's noticing it I mean it's like it's it's too obvious to not you know pay attention No, and his approval ratings are some of the lowest that I think we've ever seen a president have My prediction is this because it looks like he's starting that that the the the democrats are starting to kind of separate themselves a little bit from I predict I think if it stays this way That they're gonna make they're gonna have to they're gonna make him primary for the for the presidential election Normally, right if your president you explain that just means that he has to now compete with uh So it's not like he's the nominated one immediately It's like he has to go back and sort of compete with other democrats Yeah, because if they go into the the the elect the next election And he's anywhere near his current approval rating and it was probably smart So what's what's what's the typical process like if you're the if you're the standing champion Right if you're the president, so think about this one when it comes back to to you're the automatic nominee Automatically, yeah, so it's like you and then somebody else and then the republicans They have to have their primary to see who wins amongst them to run as the presidential nominee against The current president which would be biden But I think because if he continues down this path That the dams are gonna be like, all right Let's we need to make him primary because we need someone else now Are you reading anything to support this claim or is this just you speculating? I this is me speculating now Has that ever happened in history before good question? That's a very good question. I don't know I don't know if that's ever happened before. I don't know if the rules will even allow it or if they have to change the rules Right, that's what I'd be but they it looks like they're starting to separate themselves from him because It's I'm telling you man. I don't care where you stand. Watch the guy and I know people are like, oh, Trump was crazy too Listen, I'm not saying crazy. So is this where the rock? I'm saying cognitive Oprah I'm on record saying that quite some time ago. The rock would be hard to beat, wouldn't he? Yeah, he's got so much celebrity. I love the rock guys. Yeah. Yeah So much celebrity he'd be hard. He'd be really hard to beat, but it'll it'll be interesting speaking of which jack dorsi, right? Founder of twitter. Just see what he said about inflation and Oh, no, I think he came out and said something about trump's social media thing too. I was actually gonna look at it No, he did. Let me see if I can find it He said, um, he did a tweet And the tweet said not that he's like some, you know, like guru or about it whatever, but his this was his tweet hyperinflation is coming Or no, so hyperinflation is going to change everything. It's happening. So this is from jack dorsi. Yeah, so You know, speaking of that, I was looking at a a chart on The real estate right and they compared back in 06 like when right before yeah before everything went crashed And the percentage of loans that were like Subprime loans that were people's credit scores. So it's like a whole credit score thing Oh, yeah, and the really interesting thing about where we're at right now in the amount of purchase like First of all, there's like there's not even a line. You can't even see there's like The amount of subprime loans are so minimal And there's this huge rise in the amount of purchases coming from people that are like 750 and above So the people that are buying like like one of the theories that everybody has is like, oh, it's gonna We're gonna buy so many properties and full foreclosure is gonna happen That's gonna flood the market while we're also trying to build up problem is you've got 750 credit score people that are buying Most of these homes. So it's different. It is different. They're coming with 20 down. They got 750 FICO scores These aren't people that don't make their payments. It doesn't mean that an economic crash isn't on the horizon though It's it means it might be different like look at the student loan bubble. That is very very crazy Well, I know I mean you can this is the I mean this would be this is your only defense at this point because you've been wrong Two years right if you call if you say crash crash crash for 10 15 years in a row like eventually you're gonna be right It's gonna come down. Um, but I don't I don't predict the crash still I'm still we're not gonna see a crash We're gonna see a dip. I do believe we're gonna see a plateau Followed by a slight dip with the market correcting and that'll probably be looking like something like rising interest rates That'll what they'll have to do to slow down inflation They'll raise the interest rates even though they've said they're not going to do that anytime soon It will eventually go up or they will if hyperinflation kicks in that will slow the market down But yeah, so hyperinflation comes from It's not just lots of like inflation of the money supply, but it's also when people widely believe That Prices are never going to come back down that things are going to continue to get way more expensive So what ends up happening is people go out and buy shit like crazy because they say if I don't buy this fridge today Next month it's gonna be you know 30% more expensive And so then you have all these people going crazy Buying things because they're like get it now before it gets too expensive And then that makes hyperinflation like yeah, that's that's gonna happen before holidays with goods and everybody's like Worry about uh, you know, like the shelves being not stocked. We're in a really really weird time It's really weird. I mean in the last decade, too Do you ever do you ever pay attention to like vc exits and and the amount of money that is getting raised for like new Companies and like the turnover on old companies and new companies startups coming and then the exits on vcs like We like for for decades in the past like I think I want to say it's like in the like Under a hundred billion a year or something like we're five x that in the last in the last like five to seven years The amount and that was like kind of like a kind of a common trend forever It's like this it kind of went like this as far as the amount of companies being started And then blowing up and then vcs and then all sudden in the last decade it does this hockey stick And I mean, I think I read this on the podcast one time I I read an article it talked about the s and p 500 that would buy 25 years from now or something like that like like 75 or 80 percent of the companies will be completely turned over Like that's insane to think about Looking at the entire s and p 500 and thinking that More than half of these companies in two decades or more will be completely gone and And new companies coming up. So we're in a technological revolution right now. It's really weird right in the middle of you had record numbers of small businesses close unemployment real high Huge percentage of the workforce drop out permanently Simultaneously The biggest wealthiest companies made record profits So it's like, okay, we had all these shutdowns right but people still need to buy stuff Killed it. Yeah. So walmart target amazon still working, but your local stores all had to shut down local places all had to shut down So it's a really weird Situation because and if you look at the stock market, oh, it looks like it's kind of doing good But it's a lot of these big companies that it's almost like they took more market share from all these other companies because They just absorbed all these other companies that were competing back in the day Yeah, so it's almost like luxury items and assets will continue to go up You know, because that's where wealthy people put their money And then everything else kind of and then you're also starting to see this Where this is a nifty trick that uh companies will do when things when inflation starts to hit What you don't want to do is raise the price of your toilet paper because then you might lose customers You talk about this so you just make the toilet paper roll smaller And people don't necessarily realize that the less well, this is what I see happening with with houses too Like what was it you dug who sent over the those those interesting houses that are like, oh, yeah Modular houses. Yeah, what were they called? They were called something. I forgot what they're called. Um, God, it's around the tip of my tongue, but they I mean they ranged from 50 000 to Uh, I want to say 350 was the most expensive one And they're basically like you buy and they just pop up houses and they're completely sustainable Like they the solar the built on this on the back septic like you literally could drop them in the middle of nowhere And it's a fully operational house. Wow. Yeah, so I mean, I think that and then we see what's happening too I think I just saw another article. I think austin is now doing the, um, 3d printing on the houses Jackie sent that over on our thread. I think it was jackie who sent that one over That that's speeding up. So I think that you're just going to see more competitive things like that come out and you'll just See, that's really interesting. That's really I think that's uh, definitely the future, right? Because uh, The the construction of homes is not meeting the demand not even close right and that's an easy way to do it Along those lines. Have you guys ever seen The homes that people have so in during the time of the cold war wealth lots of wealthy people built these underground bunkers And then they abandoned them or whatever right or they sold them and then people are buying these underground bunkers and turning them into like these prepper Communities or crazy houses that are underground. Have you ever seen these? I shared them with you guys on youtube when we were joking around about the world coming to an end Yeah, this was a thing like when the whole everybody thought the aztec or the mayan calendar was like Going to determine that this is going to be the end of the world There was this whole push to like sell people Properties that were like these underground bunkers that were like luxury bunkers. Yeah, they're there's some badass ones There's some decent ones out there that look like Man, they got pools. They got like theaters in there like a full kitchen. That's so wild Yeah, I was I was talking to my my kids about this the other day But we were actually driving to school and my son goes to my daughter He goes, hey, did you know that? In the year 2000 like well because my daughter asked me what was the party like 1999 for new year So I'm talking about it. My my son played the prince. Yeah, and then my son goes repeat Did you know that everybody was worried that like the world was going to end because they designed like all the computer Yeah, dude y2k. That was like a big scare I was explaining it to them and as I'm explaining it sounded so ridiculous I'm like, yeah, we you know, they use the last two digits of the era Well, I guess a lot of computer programs didn't allow for four So they were worried that it would switch to zero zero and then the computers would think it was 1900 We all just Go on Yeah, dude, it was this great Oh, we were just pandemonium of that dude back to the party that I threw like I was impressed at how much alcohol Everybody could soon at my house. I actually was like, I thought I oh, you know how like you just want to make sure you over Deliver in terms of like food or like, you know drinks and all that stuff like I packed You know my refrigerator to the gills Like everything was stacked and by the time I had literally had like maybe three cans left the girls were getting down Yeah, yeah, the girls were getting really Wasn't that many people? I mean that was a lot. Did you hand out zbiotics so everybody could I so there's only a select few So I took one Courtney took one. I gave one to Adam That was the first thing I asked friends as soon as I walked in I was like, bro, please tell me you have some zbiotics Katrina's like, I don't even need one. She's like, she's another level, but um, she's got three livers Yeah, yeah, but but how'd you feel because I mean we all kind of know I felt great I felt and we did drink we drank quite a bit that now I haven't drank that much in a while and If I'm good about doing that so that the hack is the zbiotic If you can drink some water in between the night if you can get it in there But for sure before I go to bed to Advil and pound a glass of water That's like with the zbiotic first that is like I wake up. Yeah, like I didn't have anything I got which is stomach aches headaches, you know, just would like I'd have to like lay in the couch And just be like, oh, I hope this goes away And it's it's so crazy for me because I I have I don't drink and I have it until Till really zbiotic. I mean we if you go back far enough on the podcast You hear me talk about alcohol and how I'm not a drinker. I'd rather smoke You just react poorly to it. Yeah, and that's why it's like it's not that I didn't have a good time When I when I'm drinking it's just the time afterwards was so miserable that I'd have to really want to get down or it had to be a very special occasion for me to drink because I knew that the next day there was more than a 5050 chance. I was gonna feel like shit and Since zbiotic dude It's definitely now I'll go somewhere like a social event like that Or I normally probably wouldn't drink and I you know, I'll have some to make sure I save, you know Because there are some of those events. I'm like, I gotta at least have it like available Yeah, so I got a message from a guy who he was gonna get married and he's like Is it really like what you guys say on the podcast? Have we ever lied or whatever and he goes no, it's true So he bought a bunch for him and his groomsman For the wedding and he said and then I got the dm back from his honeymoon He goes dude. He goes he goes I can't express to you like how wild this is He goes all me and all my buddies Felt way better the next day He goes you guys literally like my my honeymoon is awesome because I don't feel hungover You know the anyways I gotta get back to uh, you know having a good time The things that I think are funny is the only people who who dm or message us and say Oh, that should didn't work where it's that we asked them like what? Oh, we had like an eight ball of coke It's like bro Where on there did we say that zbiotics is going to cure or help your coke habit? It's like that's a different animal Yeah, that's a whole different monster or like Yeah, yeah, well what happens someone's like oh, I tried it and I still felt terrible the next day And I and then I started asking what you do. Yeah, what did you eat? I started asking questions and then like I'm like, did you do anything? I'll well, you know, we did a little bit of coke and it's like, yeah, bro I can't I don't think zbiotics put anything in there to help that out That or the mollies you the four mollies you dropped that day in vegas like that might have had something to do with it Zbiotics magical Hey, real quick before we get to the rest of the show, you got to go check out one of our sponsors Mass zimes now they make digestive enzymes designed specifically For people like you fitness fanatics. Now here's the problem You boost your protein intake. 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That's m a s s z y m e s Dot com forward slash mind pump and then use the code mind pump 10 That's mind pump 1 0 for 10 off. All right. Here's the rest of the show Our first caller is kc from washington kc. What's up, man? How can we help you? Hey, Sal. How's it going really appreciate you guys? So I'm new long-time listener first-time caller and I am in the final phase of anabolic and it's going really well and I I want to get bigger arms. I feel like the rest of me like proportionately I'm doing great and anabolic has been a fantastic program to go through So I purchased the bicep and tricep mods and what I'm curious is With the length of each of the foundational workouts in anabolic already What's the like best way to incorporate those mods like can I incorporate both of them? Should I like replace all of the bicep tricep workouts in each foundational exercise with all of the you know Modification parts should I do like just go through the bicep mod first or just do the tricep one or like add a fourth Quote-unquote foundational day where I just do the bicep and tricep mod exercises I'm curious about the best way to incorporate this. I know good question. Okay, so for people who aren't familiar So we have mods That we created for specific body parts and literally they're designed to be plugged into Our current programs to replace the workouts for those corresponding body parts in those workouts for example Let's say you get the the glute mod. You want to build your butt What you do is you would take your maps program Take out the glute workout. That's already in there and replace it with the mod and what the mods are is typically increased volume You know some more exercises and essentially what you're doing is you're Trying to bring up a lagging body part So the second thing the second option that you kind of brought up is exactly how you would use this mod So you would take maps at a bollock Take out the bicep and tricep workout. That's already in there and then replace it with the mod So that you're placing a little bit more focus on the arms or the area that you want to you want to focus on Does that make sense? Yeah Excellent, so it's really that's exactly how it works So if there's other body parts, you do the same thing now It's typically not recommended that you combine mods because there's a lot of volume if you do it that way But this is really and really adam's expertise came a lot We utilize quite a bit in this because of his experience competing And one thing that he did through his career and I'll let him touch on this is he was able to bring up specific body parts And the way he did it was he would focus on one at a time Like he didn't focus on all of them at the same time Because it's just too much volume too many, you know too much going on He would focus one at a time So maps in a bollock as it's laid out, but you replace the bicep and tricep workouts With the mod that you purchased so you could bring up your arms We also created them with with the intention of that if you wanted to stay in something like maps anabolic You could run it the way it is exactly and then let's say in your example that you were trying to bring up your arms You could run it back a second time and then now you plug in the mod. So it gives you this Exercise variation in in addition to that also increased volume for those specific areas and sounds right like Not that you couldn't technically do another mod in there also But then you're starting to get a ton of volume and then I would have just recommend going to like maps aesthetic Which is more focused on you know focusing on specific body parts But the way those mods work you could pretty much run maps anabolic multiple times Back to back and then switching the mods in for those because we change up the exercises and we increase the volume in there But what you're thinking I think you're you're right on you're right on par with what you should be doing Now Casey you're how far are you through maps anabolic third phase you think third? Yeah, I just started phase three um on monday and my My quads are sore from sissy squats. Oh, yeah, that's that's a that's a brutal one Now you said you've been getting good results. So I'm assuming you're getting stronger. You're noticing muscle gain the whole thing Yep Yeah, everything's a bit like I've I've trained since high school, but it's always been like on my own I'm in my late 30s now. I've got four kids My oldest son is a wrestler and so like I'm just trying to keep up with them and stay active and flexible and so Going through like an actual program like anabolic has just been tremendous because I was overtraining before so like going down to three foundational extra, you know workouts A week has been tremendous just because my fitness is no longer sized a point of stress And and it just fits in better with our like family dynamic and lifestyle And so with the length of how long it takes me to get through those foundational workouts I was curious, you know about like how many mods can I add in there because I was also like eyeballing the shoulder mod as well and so You know, I appreciate the you know feedback to only incorporate one at a time and then, you know, you can just run through anabolic again Um with just uh, you know and rotate in whatever mod you want to work on next Yeah, then I think the other thing we could do too Doug Why don't you send them over maps aesthetic because that would be the next progression to Sounds like the direction you're heading Isn't that great though how we can reduce the amount of times we're heading to the gym and actually see more results Get stronger I've been it's banging my head against the wall for years of just like having like hit a plateau when it came to Strengthen results and then I was also on the like intermittent fasting train for a long time And like jumped off of that as soon as they started listening to you guys Excellent. Um, and so like Getting off of that reducing, you know, like the High volume of frequency of training and overtraining really And just having it more balanced like it was like flipping a switch. I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life I feel great. I'm looking better All right and doing less work, right? That's so right dose man. That's the thing like I've got friends, you know, no, you know Not to rag on crossfit again But I've got friends who are just like killing themselves every day doing these, you know, w You know, work out of the day stuff and they're just they're dying and they're not getting the results They're going for and so to to go through y'all's programs and like just do the work Just do what you're told and you'll get the results And you're learning a lot right now about how your body responds. So this is a great experience One more thing you can do you mentioned your shoulders on your on your trigger session days Do like some band laterals band front raises band rear flies Just get a little pump in your shoulders on your off days Just put a little more emphasis on those that's a couple of times Literally twice a day two to three times a day on your off days Get a pump in your shoulders with really light movement and that's super intense Just get a pump and that that should also make a big difference in your shoulders and it doesn't add Uh, you know, lots of damage to the body So you could do those simultaneously the trigger sessions for your shoulders Keep the set remember keep the intensity low use bands get a little bit of a pump and the bicep and tricep mods for the foundational days And I think you'll be fine Awesome. Thanks guys appreciate you. No problem. Thank you Man, we're getting a lot of these uh these these guys that are just like tons of kids. He's got four kids and he's doing all this stuff He's juggling. That's great, man. To me. This is one of one of my favorite things about uh What I feel like we've been able to do is is to communicate this to the mass like there's always an exception Well, there's somebody who's listening right now who's a bodybuilder and you know responds well to a split seven days a week and You know, they're competing and you know, maybe maps anabolic isn't the perfect program for you But I mean it was it was the thing that connected us man when you sent that over to me I'm like man This is this is the messaging that I that I know a majority of my clients Would benefit tremendously from and it's counter to what I thought and what most people thought So I know that There's a lot of people out there that just they they think that the more work And the more days they put in that the more results they're going to have in their body and it's there's there's the right Dose for that and I just think that the two to three day a week full body routine with triggers in between is just So realistic for people that have lives outside of the gym and you can build I mean he heard him he said the best shape of his life and he's in his late 30s before kids Yeah, I love how he highlighted that you know how it made a massive difference And then also what he highlighted was that we have mods too to experience our programs in a completely different way Again, it keeps them fresh. It keeps them alive and you know, and there's ways to kind of incorporate that as well We don't talk about that a lot Because you know, there's we have done, you know, put a lot of work in other directions in terms of other types Of adaptations we're trying to acquire but like to be able to you know, go back I know some people have run similar programs like over and over again, you know, look into the mods There's new ways to kind of uh, you know add that in and and make it fresh again Yeah, and then we made them very inexpensive on purpose because we wanted people to have that option You know to modify the workouts. It's why it's called a mod But I can't stress this enough the right dose will get you to your goals faster than the wrong dose Bottom line so more will get you there slower less will get you there slower If you find the right dose for your body, you will get to your goals faster than if you do more or less That's just the bottom line Our next caller is chuck from ohio. Uh chuck. What's going on man? How can we help you? Hey, how's it going? First of all, just to say thanks for the opportunity to talk to you guys Um, I really appreciate it and uh, I'm actually here at school right now I'm going to assist a principal at middle school. So I'm hoping that things don't uh blow up here in the next 15 minutes But You know, I I enjoy the podcast I'm a morning lifter 4 a.m. 5 a.m I listen to you guys every morning and and I've actually come to the point where I've listened to episodes that I think I enjoy the You know the introduction more than I enjoy the fitness part now I'm a father of two kids both under four So I really have uh come to relate to a lot of the conversations you guys have So I just appreciate you and and and all that you guys do My uh, my question is around creatine in general Um, I know that I'm not a huge supplement guy I basically take pre-workout and I was taking creatine pretty uh pretty consistently Um, and I'm just kind of wondering to you lately, you know, I meal prep every day With with beef and then you know, usually a couple nights a week. We have beef for dinner um, is there a point where My diet is enough and that I'm just wasting my money with creatine Yeah, no good question. Um, okay, so a couple things number one You you're you're fine without taking creatine. So you're getting enough From your food to be healthy You're not gonna notice like when a vegan takes creatine for example studies will show They get an IQ boost probably because they're not getting enough From food that being said will you benefit from supplementing with creatine? Probably. Yeah, you probably will because Uh and studies will show this that create that creatine additional creatine just tops It just tops out your ATP stores Strength and you can experiment with this you could take creatine for a couple weeks See if you notice any increased strength or a better pump I do notice that in part of your question too. You mentioned, uh, creatine and hair loss Would you like me to go into that a little bit? Yeah, I was just curious and I'll be honest It's kind of slipped my mind. You had an interview a while back It's probably been a couple weeks now when it when it published and it was like a brief moment in the episode He the guy I mentioned to study Uh, and then I've seen uh, Lane Norden talking about a little bit here lately too Is there is there any correlation between, you know creatine and hair loss or is that is that minuscule? What's the what's going on there? It's a it's a big stretch There's zero there is no evidence that creatine is connected to hair loss But here is where the evidence this is why people will say this or why some people will talk about this There is some some evidence that creatine may cause a increase in dht So dht is a form of testosterone That is more androgenic. Okay, so androgenic meaning the the masculinizing effects That you may get from testosterone. So dht is great for libido Aggression in fact anabolic steroids that are derived from dht Body builders will take it because it makes their muscles look hard and makes them feel aggressive They'll get a libido boost from it and dht also can cause the the masculinizing effects of hair loss You know the male or excuse me female voice deepening So if women take dht this will happen or if they increase their dht Maybe prostate enlargement, but here's the thing the amount of dht increase that has been Observed in some studies either studies show there's no increase or some studies show there's a Minor increase. It's so overstated that it would cause any issues That's like a downstream thing that they're trying to connect As of right now all the studies on creatine are positive Improvements in health. It's got antioxidant properties good for your heart Good for your muscles good for your organs Brain function nothing. There's no studies that show that it's connected to hair loss I think that's a big like Like kind of fear mongering a little bit could it pretend, you know, would it would a slight increase in dht cause hair loss? Probably not maybe in the absolute most sensitive individuals in which case they'd say doesn't matter because they're going to cut their hairs going away anyway But yeah, that's not something I would worry about Doug. Would you um, Doug will you google? How much creatine is in a pound of red meat? I don't remember what the number is right now But this is this will help chuck kind of your Question of your point to you know, how much red meat you're eating because you're right If you eat consume a good amount of red meat you are getting some creatine through food I want to say that the recommended dose for for optimizing that is what around five. Is it five? It's five five grams a day. Um, so here you go one one Okay, one pound of raw beef or salmon provides one to two grams of creatine So even if you had a pound in a day and the optimal place is about five That's still only getting you about a half halfway point to that So you would you would benefit from three to five grams a day Kind of what I do is uh, if I had like a really heavy red meat date That might be the day I do skip taking my creatine If it was like a really heavy day and then all the rest of the days I'm I'm taking it or maybe I'm taking like A half scoop or something just so I can stretch out how long my creatine lasts. That's a strategy that you can use You're definitely not you're definitely based off of how much red meat you're eating. You're not deficient So it's not like you need it To be healthy, but if you're looking to build muscle, uh, there there'd be an advantage to you still Utilizing some creatine the only thing I would say like I know some people have had issues like with their gut in terms of creatine and it not really you know Being something that was you know agreeable with them But other than that, uh, you know, there's really little downside to supplementing with with creatine So that's that's just one of those things though. If it doesn't agree with you, you know, I I wouldn't keep going with it Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't worry too much about the The hair loss fears or whatever um a slight a little increase in dht Not gonna affect you except maybe you might notice a little increase in libido and strength But even then it's it's you know anytime we affect our hormones naturally The boost even though you may read studies all 30 increase like you do the math and you look at that It's not that big of a difference like you would get an increase in dht If you naturally raise your testosterone too, right? So if somebody let's say is walking around with a measurement of 600 testosterone and then they optimize their their life and their Sleep and their diet there they may get their number up to 800 And there's typically a corresponding rise in dht Also associated with that because dht is where we get that from testosterone But nonetheless, I wouldn't worry about it and I think we're going to see in the next five to 10 years Creatine is going to get recommended to they're already starting to recommend it to the elderly It's like a wellness supplement It's a wellness supplement and now some people don't really get any drive any benefit from it They're called non-responders But you'll know within two to three weeks like start supplementing with it And if you don't notice a difference then you're probably not a big deal But if you notice a little bit of boost and strength a better pump that kind of stuff then then go for it Okay, great. Thank you. Yes. Awesome. Thanks. Thanks for calling in nice Chuck Yeah, that's the one it's it's so crazy right like of all of the promises of the supplement industry of all the Supplements that's the one golden goose. In fact creatine is what saved the supplement industry. It really is because of creatine The supplement industry Exploded you can actually connect the growth of the supplement industry. Is that true? Absolutely really absolutely if you look at when creatine hit the market When eas, I think was the first supplement the first company to really Really market and bring it out and it's what crushed for yes, right? They brought it out people took it Oh my god, it actually works, right? Yeah, and You can see how the supplement market really took off as a result and it's backed by like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Really well-made studies. It's been studied now for 20-something years and it's again It's probably going to be recommended as a health supplement general health supplement it was interesting when it first came out like, you know the football team we started to take it and It there was all this fear behind it because it actually worked So like we got people coming in warning us about, you know, all these different things that Potentially like could happen and it's like, you know, none of that was true But there's lots of fear going into it. Like it was some kind of hidden steroid. We didn't know about it It's one of those few supplements that I cannot take for a while And then reintroduce it back into my routine and I see a nice Even increase in all my my weight like strength wise just and and I also look fuller, right? So like I noticed that like my muscles look fuller or I look bigger Because I'm probably hanging on to a little bit of extra water in there, too So I think that those two things are like guaranteed or and it's not one of those things that if I do for long periods I know you've like never stopped. So I've been taking creatine Relatively consistently since I was 16 Right for a long time and you probably only really notice when you come off and then go back I mean, I've come off a few times, but I'm pretty damn consistent. Yeah with taking it And you know, it's funny you look at the wellness space that talks all about mitochondrial health You can sure you've heard that right from all the hackers and the bio hackers and all that, right? One of the best things you could do powerhouse of the cell Yeah, one of the best things you can do for the mitochondria of your cell is help them produce more ATP Which is one of their main sources of energy. That's what creatine does and that's why studies are now showing Oh my god, it helps with heart function. It helps with, you know liver function It's your cognitive function improves So it's just one of those and it's like a again It's like a miracle supplement in the sense that There is no other supplement that comes close and it's really the only one that's ever lived up to the hype Really, no other supplement has lived up to the hype. Uh, not even close to what creatine has now to your point to the mitochondria health I've always wanted to do this and test and be consistent with it I've played with it, but I haven't been consistent with it to really tease anything out And that's the stacking it with the red light therapy Since the red light doing it post workout doing red light therapy and then also taking your creatine It'd be interesting to see if we if you noticed like an added boost from it It makes sense because they both do that right? Yeah different ways, right? Our next caller is jenny from california. Hey, jenny. What's going on? How can we help you? Hey, thank you guys so much for taking me on here. So, um, my question is, um, recently I am, uh, I've been dieting down for a tournament. I'm doing a jujitsu tournament a couple weeks I've lost about 12 pounds the last six weeks or so And so, uh, my tournament's coming up and after my tournament I'd like to learn more about reverse dieting because, um, I've never heard about it before I started listening to you guys recently I've heard you talk about it and touch on it a couple of times But I'd love to maintain where I'm at right now as far as my size and muscle mass and everything But I definitely build up from here. Um, I've been eating at about 12 to 1500 calories to get down to this cut Get down to this right weight. Um, but I would love to you know, um, continue building that so that I can eat Like around 12 2500 something like that for for my size. Okay. I'm going to answer your question But I have a few more questions for you before we get there. Um, how long have you been training jujitsu? Like what rank are you and then is what like is this your first tournament your fifth tournament? Like how far along are you? And did you know I had a purple belt? Yeah, I've been actually training jujitsu for about 20 years I'm a brown belt. Um, I took some time off in between to have kids and kind of, you know, rest my body and all that stuff after having kids So, um, I've done several tournaments, but this is kind of my Um, second or third since coming back into training pretty seriously and this one is kind of a really big tournament There's a lot of people at my gym going and doing it. Um, if I can, you know, uh, place at this tournament It's going to be a big deal. Oh good. Is this the us open? Yeah. Uh, no, it's masters masters Well, unfortunately sal can't help you because he's only a purple belt No, you know why I asked you that question, jenny is because Oftentimes I talk to athletes about cutting and when we have the conversation It's it's better to not cut. It's typically where we end up with because as athletes, especially weight when we have weight classes and, you know, grappling tournaments wrestling like Those are all, you know, boxing, right? Combat sports tend to have weight classes We often believe that if we cut and go in a lighter weight class that will have an advantage Because we're now going against lighter people, but that advantage disappears If the cut is making you feel like crap or you're losing strength Or it's really aggressive or it affects your health in a negative way. And I've seen this many times I saw this in jujitsu I also saw this in wrestling and you know, I remember my cut I had a cousin who would wrestle and would cut so much weight And I remember I convinced him once like don't cut weight and see how you feel And he did better because he felt stronger and more healthy. So that's why I brought this up But I'm assuming with your experience. This is something you've done before So the the thing is and I totally hear what you're saying I used to wrestle in high school and so I've been through this kind of ringer for a while But the thing with women's weight classes is it's 175 and above Is the weight class and so I really wanted to get I was about 186 And I was about 24% body fat and so I knew I was carrying a little bit extra And I really wanted to get into that next weight class, which is 175 like the capper is 175 and you have to weigh in with your guion and all that stuff So I knew that I could get there and I'd much rather do that than fight a girl Who's baby 200 and 230 pounds At 180 you don't want to go against that. What's her name Gabby whatever that Oh my god, I don't know if you guys have seen her, but she said oh, dude It's like imagine me with long hair, but even bigger Okay, so so all right. So okay. I'm so glad you said that Okay, so reverse dieting essentially in a nutshell without getting into the weeds Is slowly increasing your calories over time while you continue your training and Trying to maintain your weight or maybe build a little bit of muscle So that your you know your weight stays roughly the same But now you have a faster metabolism at your weight and the amount of activity that you're doing I noticed in your question you're saying you're eating about 12 to 1500 calories. That's really low That's that's really really low. You should probably be at least, you know, at least 500 to 700 calories higher So when you get out of this tournament What you want to do is increase your calories by about a hundred a day Stay at that You know caloric range see how your body adjusts and then do it again If you see a big weight jump then hold steady and wait a little bit Before bumping again What you really want to look for Jenny is and I had to have more energy Do I have more strength and my maintaining my fitness my health and also and I didn't ask you this question but also You may notice some positive hormonal changes oftentimes, especially with women when they train really hard And cut their calories They start to notice negative hormonal changes like lowered libido hot and cold You know body temperatures and then they lose their period or they get very You know spotty with their period in the sense that it's not as consistent So those are all signs that you're you're maybe doing too much not eating enough The reverse diet should really help regulate that and ideally especially at your level where we would want to see you Is for the next tournament You don't really need to cut but you're eating way more and you'll probably feel a lot better So again and in that shell it's just a slow increase while you monitor everything So i'll i'll add two little things there one I think it's a a good investment to purchase lane norton's book He actually has a a book on reverse dieting or it's like an e-book So it's it's relatively inexpensive. It has tremendous value It has more specific details if you want to like follow a more dialed plan So I think that's tremendously valuable and then the other suggestion that anytime someone's reverse dieting I I always like to really change up their strength training routine. So if you have A typical kind of program or you know training routine that you follow It's when I reverse diets when I really like to shake that up So I don't know what that looks like for you or I don't know if you're following a maps program Currently or you would be following a maps program but Really shaking it up from what the norm is for you and that will help Take any of those additional calories that you're now consuming and hopefully partition them over into building muscle Instead of getting stored as fat because you're sitting such a new unique signal and that could look like rep ranges and rest periods that could look like Introducing exercises that maybe you never did before like Turkish get-ups or single leg deadlifts some good movements in there that You're just not used to doing that You're probably not very good at but that'll be really good for you while you are also increasing your calories Yeah, jenny. What does your or what did your strength training look like and what it consists of besides you? Yeah, so I usually do I actually haven't ran like a program like maps or anything like that I do boot camp kind of hit classes With that cardio and lifting and that kind of stuff. So it's more of Like we'll have arm days or leg days or back and biceps that kind of stuff and and I enjoy lifting weights But but for this tournament well really in general I've just been able to like work those classes in But I like I said, I've just recently found you guys and really have enjoyed listening to you And would love to kind of work in on strength a little bit more. I joined a normal gym This last week just work on my cardio a little bit more get some more treadmill time But I think after this tournament, I'd love to focus a little bit more on that too. Oh, man I'm so glad just and ask you that question. Okay. How how many days a week? Yeah, how many days a week are you training jiu-jitsu? Well right now it's five Before this comp training it was maybe like two to three just kind of whatever I felt like doing it If you want more endurance and stamina do more jiu-jitsu There's nothing you can do in the gym There's no other workouts you can do that will give you more applicable stamina And you know this better than I do you've been doing this for a long time The type of endurance and stamina required for jiu-jitsu is different than what you would get maybe unboxing Or riding a bike or running. So if you want more stamina Then then train more jiu-jitsu or train your jiu-jitsu in a way to add more stamina So do more of like the king of the hill type matches or you know, people are jumping on you every minute or every 30 seconds You know roll faster or harder or longer That's where you'll get your stamina when you're lifting or you're training outside of that You want to do something that you can do with weights that you're not going to get from jiu-jitsu In other words focus maybe on strength and maybe mobility and that's really it What you don't want to do is try and it's a big mistake a lot of athletes make Is they try to mimic their sport in the gym thinking it's going to improve them at their sport That's the wrong way to train. So a lot of times you'll see an athlete and they're like I need more endurance in my sport. So now I'm going to go to the gym and I'm going to train for more Endurance the only time that's applicable is if doing too much of your sport is starting to hurt you like boxing right boxers They can't spar all the time. They get beat up a lot The the beauty of jiu-jitsu and again, you know this better than I do Is you can roll more and more and yes, there's always that risk of injury But it's not like boxing or football where at some point it's just you got to get more stamina outside of there Because you just can't kept you know, you can't keep getting pounded on Do the jiu-jitsu for the stamina train jiu-jitsu in a way to improve stamina if that's what you want And then when you go to the gym Focus on strength. So it's slow. It's lower reps Get it's full body workouts. Don't go super intense The intensity should be safe for jiu-jitsu and then maybe some mobility work Which will always benefit your jiu-jitsu, but don't train in the gym Like you're mimicking your jiu-jitsu. That's a huge mistake Well, and now that we know this and we have more information. I'll be even more specific and dug Why don't you send her over maps anabolic if you're gonna do if you're gonna after the tournament If you're gonna drop down to two to three times a week jiu-jitsu I would love to see you do two times a week of maps anabolic. Perfect I think that would be ideal if you're gonna do anything else in the gym more I would do mobility stuff if you want a great mobility routine. That's kind of a full body thing. That's free you go to the mapsprimeprowebinar.com Where I do like a 50 minute mobility routine that's basically head to toe Some of my favorite movements. You can literally just follow that That would be the only other thing I would do in addition to the two days a week of maps anabolic You do that in a reverse diet and watch how much you'll you'll build so much more muscle Yeah, let's give a shout out to your school. Where do you train? Um, i'm at synergy in rockland. All right. Hey, I know exactly where that is. I have family up in rockland All right. Good luck. Yeah We've got a big crew that's been training really hard for this tournament So we're excited to get out there and and show the world. Good luck. I hope you went Thanks so much you guys That's funny. I know that school. Uh, my family lives up in rock You know, it's it's so glad just announced that. Oh man. That's just that completely changed altars the direction there I mean, I that was the big mistake I made when I trained is that I thought I had to mimic my jiu-jitsu training in the gym And nothing gave me more stamina and jiu-jitsu like doing more jiu-jitsu and then when I went and said, you know Why don't I just go to the gym and focus on strength because I can't really do that in jiu-jitsu It was like night and day with the improvements that I made. Yeah, it's funny I mean I was addressing that same thing going into the offseason next year with the football teams like dude We didn't spend enough time on the actual skills You know that we need to acquire and like to do that You can get all the conditioning you need by just like drilling these skills like over and over again And it's going to have like way more impact than just aimlessly kind of running and and going through the cardiovascular training but yeah to really Focus in and hone in on the strength cycles and the strength and acquiring strength is going to take you so much further I mean the exciting part is if she takes the advice and does exactly what we just said She's going to see tremendous results with the reverse diet Oh, yeah, I mean if you if you're if she's used to doing All that endurance and stamina training and Circuit training for weights and then we put her on a two-day a week full body strength routine while also increasing calories look out I mean She's primed for that to like show her incredible results if she sticks to it. Totally Our next caller is jeffrey from maryland jeffrey. What's up, man? How can we help you? Hey guys, how y'all doing today? Good. How are you? All right. I appreciate you taking the call Um, so my question is um, and I'll give you a little bit of my background. Um Uh, so I'm currently on maps anabolic Um, I've done I'm on my third time on that Um, so recently I got an injury on my back. I'm recovered from it um But I feel like now for whatever reason Every time I go do like squats or something like deadlifts I feel like I get really sore the next day. Um And I'm not sure if if it's because I'm pushing myself too much Um, and the prior I was doing a lot of running I stopped doing that um because I felt like my knees started hurting from all that too much Um, and my next question is so I'm trying to re-enlist in the military um I'm still currently I'm way more than what I used to but I think it's more of a muscle that I've gained not not body fat I still fit my same clothes um, but For to join the military you have to weigh a certain weight for your height and weight. So my question is how do you How do you lose weight and still gain muscle while having to meet the military's requirements? All right, let's start with the first one. I need to ask you when you say you get really sore Do you mean just your muscles get sore or the back injury starts to hurt again? So at first, um I was going I did lighter weights Because my back was still hurting but now it doesn't hurt. I just feel very sore Okay, it just you might be going too hard and too uh too heavy or maybe too much volume It also could be he's been this is a third time around on maps on a ball too Like his body might be screaming for something like mass performance and some mobility work Yeah, actually that maps performance would be perfect for you. I think that would be the perfect routine for you And then as far as your the the fat loss muscle gain type of stuff That's going to be diet. I mean you have you're going to have the good training if you follow maps performance And by the way, if you don't have that we'll send that to you But that's okay, great. That's going to be diet, dude And then to pass the military test, uh, you need to practice the actual test There's nothing's going to get you nothing's going to make you More capable of passing the test like getting good at the actual test itself And are you are you concerned with your ability to pass test or is it just more the weight thing? Do you feel pretty confident you'll pass the physical No, so I've already been in the military. My concern is just the weight The weight because for my height they require certain weight, but I've gained more weight So that would mean I would have to drop at least 15 more pounds in order to meet their requirements And they do a lot of running. So I feel like that's another issue Um when it comes to like lifting weights as well This is another reason why I'm glad Adam mentioned performance because it's going to be a lot more Protective of the joints and that repetitive stress is going to add up Obviously, yeah, like losing weight is going to help, uh, you know It's going to help you feel like lighter in your feet like less, you know, stressing the joints but um to then reinforce that And go through those mobility sessions, especially but like keep up, you know Your strength cycles is going to be, you know, a great compliment to what you're doing How long do we have until to lose that weight? So we have about 15 to 20 pounds We need to go down. How long do we have? Uh There's time, but I would say probably like three months. Oh, okay. Yeah, you got that. Oh, yeah, bro Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. You just Jeff What are the work? What are the worst foods you eat on a regular basis? Like what do you have any any issues with like soda or sweets or processed foods or You know, what are your worst foods? My worst foods has to be sweets probably. Okay. I'm pretty good at controlling myself But there are there's days it it could get pretty bad What does that mean? Like what does that look like and how often candy? What is it? Usually so I usually meal prep and I have everything ready. So as long as I eat, I'm good But then let's say I'll go out with some friends on a weekend and I'll have some cookies and One will turn into 10. Yeah And but for the most part, especially, um, I don't I don't always do that. Um Um And I do meal prep every meal. So I'm pretty good on that Um, you know what it sounds like, you know, it sounds like jeffrey. It sounds like and I've seen this is very common Monday through friday your own point saturday and sunday you go off a little bit and so From a calorie perspective what that tends to look like is let's say somebody wants to I don't know. Let's say they want to lose a pound of body fat a week So that's roughly and this is loose, right 3,500 calories Of deficit a week. So what they do is they go, okay, I'm going to be a 500 calorie deficit Every day because that equals, you know, 2,500 calories. So monday through friday, they're good, right? So that's 2,500 calorie deficit so far Then saturday and sunday They go over by I don't know 1,000 calories each day, which is easy to do It's very easy to I mean 10 cookies could easily turn into 700 or 1,000 calories well now your calorie deficit for the week is 500 So now it would take you weeks to notice one pound of fat loss So those two days can make a big difference in how you know, you start to lose body fat overall If sals if sals right and that is something that you struggle with is on weekends I gave a tip to somebody else on one of these live questions a while back that I I think And I had a lot of response from people that said, oh my god I started doing that that was a huge game changer for me and that was uh, if that's the case like you struggle with Keeping your calories in check on the weekends sunday becomes the most important day of training and dieting It's it's like a crazy hack that I figured out personally because I sugar and sweets are my thing weekends going over my also My thing also if I were to take a day off of lifting or two It would be saturday or sunday and so if I build my routine around Okay sunday is the day I cannot miss and that is the day that I'm going to be dialed in the most It's crazy how the rest of the week kind of just falls in in order Where if I don't do that on sunday and I start off and I have a bad sunday eating and then I go into monday It's harder to get me out of that on monday tuesday wednesday okay, and as far as uh Uh the performance mass performance Would would you say include that with anabolic or just do no no it's a new program. It's a whole new program Just follow performance and it's got no more anabolics. Yeah, no more no more anabolic Leave that leave that or you mean anabolic like steroids Maybe that's why you're 200 pounds now You're on that you're on that d-ball. No. Yeah. No maps performance is its own program So you're gonna once we send that to you you could scrap maps anabolic and do maps performance I think it'll be better for what your goals are Okay, sounds great. All right, man. Thanks for calling in. All right. Thank you. Have a great day guys. Thank you everyone How many times did you guys have that with clients where they're really good monday to friday? saturday and sunday they According to them they go off a little bit And but they don't realize like how much damage those going off. That's why I mean that was a big thing for me I remember I shared a long time ago. I shared on the podcast the the introduction to the body bug Yeah, before that we didn't have a good tool to be able to kind of get a good Estimation of your metabolism, right or what you're burning on a regular basis And it and I was so dialed monday through friday. Like I ate perfect. I trained hard I was moving all day training 10 to 12 clients like Super active burned a tremendous amount of calories 5000 plus calories a day. I was at back then And then saturday and sunday there was times where I could drop all the way to 25 half you're just sitting on your ass and That's also the day I'd say hey, it's saturday. It's sunday. I'm gonna have some pizza and watch football or I'm gonna You know have a beer or two like I would go off the diet I would possibly not train and I would be burning like 50 percent the calories So not much room for air I could I could easily go over and that the little bit I was going over on saturday sunday It was enough to cancel All the work I was doing the week and that was what that's how the sunday can't take it off thing happened for me I said okay. Well, I'm just going to make myself Dialed sunday is going to become my best day. It's no longer going to be my worst day It'll become my best day And what ended up happening was if I set the tone on sunday the rest of the week I ended up having a great week. Yeah, no, it makes a huge difference When you said that I know we got messages from people who are like, and it's the psychological piece of it Totally. 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