 Hello wiki tree years. Hello non wiki tree years. Hello all across the world. I'm sure we have people who are it's morning time, who it's afternoon, evening, maybe it's the middle of the night. Who knows? But hello everyone. How was everyone doing? I hope everybody's doing well today. We have a smaller crowd, this live cast, not as many fans built up. So we have as usual me and a one team members on wiki tree. Then we have Mindy over there. I can't see my finger. Mindy over there who's our wiki tree challenge coordinator. Then we have Lucy down there who is our team captain for Judy's week. And then we have Judy Russell. We're finishing up her week today. Right now it's pretty much over. It's happening. It's happening. So just for for those of you who maybe aren't wiki tree years, what is wiki tree? I would love to answer that. So wiki tree is a community of genealogists who are working together on a single family tree. Unlike a lot of other genealogy sites where you build your tree over here and I built my tree over here. And we never really talked to each other despite sharing several deep ancestors on wiki tree. When we get to a common ancestor, we get to work together to find information, share sources and resolve discrepancies. So in other words, we collaborate to grow an accurate single family tree that connects all of us. And the best part is 100% free free free. And then for those of you don't charge for anything. No, nothing. Just just your time. I guess. Yeah, you don't need your time. That's free. And then the wiki tree challenge another step. The wiki tree challenge is our year long event where each week we take on a different genealogy guest star and make their tree more accurate on wiki tree than it is anywhere else. For instance, this week we're working on Judy. Well, we finished Judy's last week. And then this is part of our year long. This is part of our year of accuracy where our goal is to make wiki tree more accurate, make connections and make friends like Judy. Judy is now our friend. So as we I guess we will just move on. That's wiki tree and the wiki tree challenge if you guys didn't know. And how you do now you do the more you know. So I guess we will move on to I guess we'll kind of just dive in to start talking about what we found for Judy. But we wanted to begin with. We're just talking about Judy's tree in general. I think real quick before we're going to do MVP. But whatever order you want to do it in. Nice and jazzy and bright there are most valuable participant or player was Nannette Pazudi. She was rocking this challenge. We really appreciate all the hours that you put in. Nannette, it was awesome. And then we also have our top five. Nannette of course was on the top there Ian Speed, Frank Yatsik, Paul Gierzewski and Chris Ferrielo. We also have a special mention to Dieter Lorentz. He actually wasn't in the competition signed up. He's one of our experts we've used for translations. But he got so interested and excited he joined in and was working on profiles and stuff this week. So so yay Dieter. Thank you very much. Now we do have a point system we give points for each profile that is a direct ancestor or their nuclear relative that is created. And then we give 10 points if you break a brick wall down. Now Judy already knew that her research is so impressive. There was a good chance we wouldn't have any brick walls broke broken down. But as a teaser, I can tell you we did give out one 10 point bonus. So you'll have to keep watching to find out who got that and where. Now for the individual members that I just mentioned that were top five and that's been with us since 2015. She's part of the part of several projects data doctors Italy military award presidents in 1776. Frank Yatsik has been a wiki trailer actually since just last year. He's fairly new. It's impressive that he's picked up as quickly as he can. He is a German researcher. And he was brought in by a fellow member by Hillary Yatsby. Paul Gierzewski. He's been with us since 2015. His projects are profile improvements and data doctors. We have a lot of data doctors like to do this. Ian speed, which you guys have met in a previous live cast has been a wiki tree here since 2017. Her projects. He's part of the England project, our ever important mentor project and a founder of the Accessibility Angels, one of our newer projects. And then last but not least, Chris very low has been with wiki tree since 2017. He is an ambassador spreads the wiki left. He's a team leader and a project coordinator. He is crucial to the Italy project. There's a lot of Chris going on that helps support that project and keeps it going. And he's involved in many, many other projects. Thank you for our top contributors for duties week. They did such a great job guys. Yes, we will start to go into maybe the details of what we've found. Lucy, do you want to start or do you want me to? I think you should. Now this is the start of Judy's story. Of course, Judy and the expected father and mother. Yes, you still have them even though we didn't have to research them. Our part of your story starts out on those eight great grandparents. So the lines that you see all the way to the right, that's where our researchers and team members started out at. Lucy's little bit of creativity. She wanted to warn you now you did say to read your blog and make sure we kept our research aligned with yours. As we read through it. And trust me, we were all reading it. We are captivated. You have just some really amazing articles in those. I'm definitely not a chore. But she did want to warn you that traipsing down that trail. There are more Johann Kristoff's than even you talked about. I can't say I'm shocked. Now, Lucy, you did say you thought there were five, right? At least five generations. So, okay, on this one on Johann Kristoff, is that Gromula? Gromula. Yeah. Okay. We didn't find any new information on Johann. He was born in 1823. Now, I know you had some that were in Reuters Dwarfs. I'm not in Reuters Dwarf. But for these, the records we found that's where this particular ancestor was. We had one of our fabulous team members had a power outage and she was hurting some very active young children and felt bad she couldn't research. So, she took the time and did this sketch for you. This is where he was married at and where his children were all baptized was in this church in Rudin's Reuters Dwarf. So, just a little side benefit of having that extra collaboration and team members working on it. We thought you would enjoy that. That's gorgeous. Elaine Weatherall. Weatherall. She, she drew the little photo. How cute. That is truly gorgeous. Yes, we can look at her. Oh no, what did I just do? Click something. Johann Kristoff's profile. Then we even added the the pictures linked to his um on his profile. So, if you wanted that, you're able to download it. Oh, I will want it for sure. Okay. And then on Johann Friedrich, now, we had several people that that were working just steadily around the clock on this and you can see in our changes log, that's another nice thing about WikiTree is that um you know, you can see what was done by who on what day. So, this is looking at the at Friedrich's changes log. Just a small portion of it and you can see where I went in, Frank went in, Paul went in um Dieter was in there several times. There was somebody else that went in and did little corrections. We all worked together and we've actually, you know, gotten pretty good. Anybody that's been on WikiTree long enough, we've gotten pretty good at that. We, we work with each other. If somebody's a little stronger at doing this part of the profile, I let them do it. You know, if we need help, we have somebody else jump in and do formatting or whatever needs to be done. Um at one point now, we had nine children for him and this was kind of a a hot topic for a little bit within our Discord channel where we communicate with each other while we're working because uh one of the records, as I'm sure you've seen of the daughters, said that she was the fourth child for surviving and so I took that to mean free children had not made it and I calculated and added those into the list of children. Um when one of the other researchers, researchers went in, they looked at the towns that were around that and they found records where they think those children actually did live. They just weren't baptized in that same church as the rest of the family members. So, I mean, breadcrumbs for you. It's something to keep in mind. That's true. There's a, they have eight children now. So, that's still a lot. That's still a busy family. Absolutely. That's really cool. I was working on this, this profile a lot too. I guess you mentioned that. Our German researcher. That'll be really helpful. Thank you. Anytime. And then we have Sophia and you know, you've already told us and especially in your blogs, it's just it's it's heartbreaking some of the times and you read about the women that have lost so many of the children and times were harder back then. Medical care wasn't what it is now. Um support wasn't what it is now. You know and and here Sophia Schuman was another one of those incredibly strong women because she had to be. You know her father died before she had even married. Um her husband died and left her with young children and so she had to be the one that kept the family strong and kept them together. You know and we saw no evidence that those children went to other family members. They stayed with Sophia. So, it was it was another one of those, you know, touching moments. Um the Friedrich, not sure how to say that one. Traga. Traga. Traga. He died before his 14th birthday and I know you have that name on your tree so you knew that already but it just kind of lends itself. You know here's somebody that's already lost so many people around her and then he got up to the age of 14 and something tragic happened. You know and she just kept on with the family. So, hats off to her. I mean incredibly brave woman. You almost think it's harder at that point. I mean if you lose them as an infant that's one thing but when you think you're going to raise them all the way and then lose them at that point that's got to be got to be tough. Yeah and you'd have some so many memories at that point. You know I mean everywhere you looked there'd be oh the time we went to that park with oh there was this dish that he loved to eat his breakfast. You know there just would be so many times in your life that that would you would cross those memories. Now this was one that Lucy had worked on with her team and I mean they researched and debated and once again you know we we have the post in the G2G which I'm sure you've at least peaked out or did when we started. You're very welcome to read through and get to the end of it. But you know while we're working on the profiles and helping each other we're working at a discord and they just went you know for days solid on this line and could not get anything set in stone unfortunately but you got to give an A for effort. Absolutely that's a tough line to work on. Now we did find a few new details here for Heinrich. We found that his birthplace was confirmed as being in Reistead and I saw that you had what probably was a what maybe a transcription error that you had seen somewhere. You had a question mark by it on the primary tree but we did find records that confirmed that that was definitely his birthplace and where there was only one child listed when we started working on him and we looked we found a total of four children. So we wanted to welcome some new people to your family and that would be Johann Wilhelm Ehler Hünike. Is it Hünike or Hünike? I think it's probably Hünike. I think they probably don't pronounce the umlau that much. Yeah because it goes both ways in the records with and without the umlau. I have a problem with the German names. I try but yeah they never they never read like you know they never read like they're supposed to sound and then the other children were of course Anna Katharina and Carl Heinrich. Heinrich himself died on the 8th of November 1843 in Bremen. He was about 66 years old and was listed as a laborer by trade. Good to have those siblings to chase. You never know what you're going to find. Those can be valuable. Absolutely. I get the fan club. Mm-hmm. Oh Martin. Judy says oh Marty, Marty, Marty. Well he was actually called Gilbert. Oh okay. His grandfather was Martin. We should probably change his preferred name. It's it goes both ways. He was also called MG. Oh okay. That's pretty cool and so you already know that we didn't get any spectacular new finds but you know that's that's one of the other things we do like I kind of hinted at earlier is everybody has different strength. So you know the people that you saw the data doctors that are working those are people that just work on suggestions which could be errors or they just could be things you need to look at. We had a number of people that went through and cleared up a lot of the mistakes that we had on WikiTree. So getting us closer to our goal of accuracy and improving your branches and you know and they have some fun doing so. Good. Looks like they added some like the deserter to get here and the directories to his profile as well. Excellent. Yes we tried not to do the you know this person got married in 1843 because Judy said so. We actually did our own research and tried to see how much we could come up with on our own for all of these lines and you know I think the team did some pretty incredible work. The other thing that I really want to emphasize and this is true of all of us I can be wrong. I made every beginner mistake there is to make when I was a baby genealogist and some of those errors have not been corrected. So I'm really looking forward to seeing what you guys have done. That seems like our somebody in the netherworld changed the preferred name and added a nickname to his profile. Real-time changes that's what we do. That's really good. That's impressive. They're listening. We're on a spirit world. We are on those errors. And then also on that along that line one of the team members was feeling ambitious and started a really cool space page. So she took that engagement that had been talked about previously where they did the engagement party at a bridge party and they had had the brides picture on the tally cards and the whole bit and she created a space page and we're going to be creating profiles for all of those people and they'll be linked to that page so she already has some of them done. I thought it was pretty cool. That's really exciting. Is that space page linked to the profile that we can? It should be on your list. It wasn't on my list of links but I feel like we should probably have it's probably listed somewhere somewhere in here. For a lot of links. Yes there are. We have all these inline references for each little fact. So and then we did leave a lot of research in it. Mm-hmm. Sarah just really quick for people who might not know. Would you explain what a space page is? Yes so a space page. So on wiki tree we are able not only to create profile pages such as what you see but you're able to create a page where you can put whatever kind of information you want. So like they were talking about we have... Oh no. I wish I linked. But basically like if we if you wanted to collect a whole bunch of information about a certain... Like for one for one example a one-place study you can create a one-place study use a free space page to gather a whole bunch of information about the person and maybe put links to everybody who lived there and the census records. So it's not just about creating profiles but you can also create pages for whatever other kind of information that you want. So that's a free space page. So you can kind of have the freedom to add whatever different information not just about people. That could be done then for that church in Rooterstorff. Right. Absolutely. And we have a lot of people that do things like that. They'll take a group or a club or a church or something and start building that so that you can look and see everybody that was involved with whatever the event was. Really cool way to link people and also to research and know more about the families. That's really exciting. And this was if you see on the slide page this is kind of the a snippet of what was on what's on the free space page. They have who attended and they linked each. They will eventually have links to every single person but then it's like kind of collects things in nice in a nice way. That's really organization. Organization. Okay and this one of course was the Robertsons. So they were not able to find out much on these. Now these were those where they were looking at the slaves to see right that you had said you wanted to know more about and they did gather some information on them. Lucy did you have anything specific you wanted to share on those? Well the daughter married to get married but then they appeared on the 1880 census and that was just that's the last we could find and Anna was listed on there as disabled but it didn't it could be she was laying or bedridden you couldn't say but I couldn't find any I couldn't find them anywhere I searched the whole country and I tried to search the husband I couldn't find anything on him except public census records. But then the research will be the research will be on going on that now we have a US Black History Project and so they've taken an interest in that also and they're going to be doing further research on that. Terrific great thank you. What a great picture. Isn't that wonderful? That is. I love that one. Eula Lee I mean she's just you can just see so much character in that phase it's amazing. She didn't once again provide us a chance to get new information but it was another place where we could go ahead and focus on getting rid of some of the accuracies that we saw as this is one of our main you know tenants of the challenge and of the year to be more accurate. I think it was time well spent. I love it you know my whole reason for saying yes was because you guys were focusing on on accuracy and if the whole notion of a one world tree is really going to succeed it's going to have to be with verification and accuracy. Absolutely. So I'm I'm delighted. I'm thrilled with what you guys are doing. I was in a show we did have a free space page for all of our information that we collected for Judy. So just an example of a free space page before we move on so we. Wow. They did a really good job. So it's like a collection of everything before they started. So information shared by Judy photos problems interesting finds and then a whole bunch of other stuff. So example of a free space page and this specifically for Judy. Sounds great. And this is this is public so everybody can access this. And then I think our last one Mindy is do we get a drum roll? Is it time for a drum roll? It's a boy. Our one brick wall that we broke down for you Judy was for Johanna Sophia Schumann Geisler. That's Freddie Geisler's wife. Her father's name was Elias. He was a saddler by trade. Most likely died before 1806. So unfortunately we couldn't find a death record for him because they're not available online before 1799 in Cana. Right. Now the German records are from that part of Germany are very slow getting online. That's great. Yeah and I noticed in some of the collections like you look through them if you're actually paging through and some are indexed and some aren't so. It's just kind of hit and miss what they've indexed so far. Well and even harder is that you're dealing with the German script. Yes. So it's not even like reading regular you know what we've been trained to to read is colonial handwriting. This is not only colonial but German colonial. So someone in the comments said we found Friedrich's father as well. Was that a discovery today? See they've been working all the way up till now. Yeah so if anything if you guys discovered anything today I don't have it in my notes. Make sure you make sure you add it to that free space page so you know. Absolutely. Yes. So yeah one brick wall. Yay we found it. You know it had the only thing you've done been to focus on correcting mistakes. That would have been enough for me that really is what I wanted out of this challenge and and I'm I'm delighted. I'm I'm hopeful that as things go forward with that kind of an emphasis that that wiki tree can take you know can can really fill out a need here and that's our goal. Nobody will will commit to ensuring that what gets added gets added with verification. I think we've got we've got a real need for this. There's no doubt about it. And I agree you know and and like I said we left we left a lot of little breadcrumbs for you and for other researchers. I know we have several people that said oh we're not leaving this tree when the weekend. So we're going to keep working at the ranch. I'm they're they're interesting. I'll loan you any of your one. Judy says please share my ancestors. It's the kind of family on both sides with enough difficulty because of the the germination on one side and the southern US issue on the other with vital records being very late to get started. A scots irish bent which means that they tried not to leave records. It's it's a tough thing to try to trace some of these lines. So I'll take all the help. Yeah and for some of the southern states too. I mean you have so many counties in some of those states that are burned counties. You know there's a map online from the Alabama Department of Archives and History where they hash marked the counties with records lost. It's got to be at least half of the counties of Alabama. And of course one of the ones that had multiple records lost situations is the county where my family was located. So yeah I'm well familiar with the the difficulties of southern research. And it it's the kind of situation where you get somebody who wants to work on one of these families game. I'll work with them any way they want. I think it'd be terrific. They would love that. I think everybody just did a great job. I think they they they looked at what what my goal was and dovetailed that perfectly with what the goal was for the wiki tree challenge. And the two of those put together I won't say you've got me completely converted. Let's put it this way. I'm not I'm certainly not going to badmouth wiki tree anywhere you guys have done a great job. That a really really good job and I'm I'm very pleased. We did have a final from the captain Lucy. And Lucy said I am having great fun. I don't think we found out much that Judy didn't already know. But I know we did a good job in cleaning up a bunch of mistakes. We had one German member that worked himself into a migraine but recovered. We lost an English researcher this last week for the same thing a migraine. We had several people that had power outages and the server hiccup. So you know not only is it the German and the southern records but real life kept happening out there. So it just and then she said I hope Judy is happy with what we've done. Absolutely. I think you guys did a great job. And I personally am just very appreciative. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you for having me as part of this. And I can't wait to see what you do with everybody else all year along. It's been great so far. We've had really great experiences with all of you that have have been nice enough to come and participate. So we're excited. Terrific. Looks great. Good luck with everything going forward. I guess I just wanted to show the tree. And then somebody was asking about the free space page. How to get to the free space page. But I guess what free space page you're talking about. The you can search the main free space page you can on Judy's profile or in G2G. Nope. That that's the wrong one. There are so many G2G posts. There we go. That's the one I'm looking for. So we have the her G. This is this is where we put all of the G2G posts for everyone was kind of communicating along with this cord. And we have some free space pages here. See link to free space page. And that's how we got to this one at least. Okay. And then. Do we have any other questions that were posed in the chat or do you have any questions or other comments or anybody have any questions or comments or Lucy. Did you want to add anything? Or we. Now the comments the comments people were really just listening. They thought it was pretty interesting. So they were unusually quiet. But you know usually this is tough stuff to do. And it gets to the point where you think I've been over this a dozen times. I'm not going to see anything new. And then you see somebody else come in and see something. And I'm going to leave you with a little bit of a teaser because I know you you're going on to talk about the start of your next challenge. Right. So I'll leave you with a little bit of a teaser. But I did see one thing online. And I'm actually going to blog about it tomorrow. But you guys showed me that I have been making a mistake with respect to one of my sources for a long time. Wow. So it's now going to be corrected. And I'm going to blog about it because one of your people said you couldn't find something that you should have been able to find. And I figured out why. And it's my mistake. Wow. Looking forward to that. That would be great. Yeah. And speaking of next week we actually due to extenuating circumstances we don't have a genealogy guest start for this coming week. It'll be a rest week. So our hard our hard our WikiTrees who've been hard at work can take a break. I know some of them just don't really sleep. So we won't have a. Thank you for challenging us. Thank you for all the work that you did on my behalf. So thank you all. You did a great job. We appreciate you letting us look at your tree and taking a chance on us. I feel like I could have tied a song into that. I almost did. I almost did. Probably not. Don't want to do that. No. Yes. So we thank thank you Lucy for being such a great team captain this week and leading leading our team members to make Judy's tree the most accurate can be. We've got down one brick wall. Right. Just well let's look at the stats really quick. We didn't actually look at the our stats page. So at least on how many points total was it? It was I can't see this screen but 143 total points. 143. Nice. I hope that's good. That is good. Terrific. Yeah and it was it was Frank Yatsik who actually got the the bounty point who broke down who found that new ancestor of yours. Terrific. Chasing those cana people. I wish they worked on that. I couldn't even read. Yeah. Frank was actually brought on just they were like you need to work on Judy's tree. So you should be on Wicked Tree. Sounds good to me. Always delighted to be used as a bad example. Something for people to have to struggle with. Oh I was I wasn't even showing oops I thought I was showing this whole time but I wasn't. Now you are. Now I am. So it looks like things people got and it was MVP but now it doesn't look like so anymore. No she is. Oh she is we don't count. Because there's Lucy and Mindy it's top. They're the team they're team captains though and a challenge coordinator so. They don't count sorry. It doesn't count. Well you count a lot to me. They count and get points in other ways. We had a whole bunch of people participating. We almost had 2000 total contributions to your tree like edits and different changes here and there. And that doesn't count all the free space page edits that doesn't even count that. That's great. That's terrific. All I can say is thank you again. Great job everybody. I've got a lot to look at and and play with. Would you say you would give us an A prior to checking everything. A. Absolutely A for open. I mean that. And the fact that you were candid enough. To say that you had not made a lot of new discoveries. I would have been surprised if you had. And I would have been I would have been. Skeptical Skeptical if you had. And the fact that you were willing to say that your focus was on accuracy. Makes me feel better about the whole thing. So I was really pleased. I'm pleased with the way that it was handled. I'm pleased with the emphasis on accuracy. At least an A for effort. And the gentleman I believe it was. Who was working on my second great grandmother. And Louis Kessler says. Wicked tree challenge for publicity. Read the blog tomorrow. Louis Kessler. That's why I'm getting a thing on the blog tomorrow. Because that's why it came up. I would not have noticed this. It's something I literally didn't see at all. But the gentleman who left the note on my second great grandmother who was Martha Louisa Baker Cottrell. On her obituary. She's got a point. And I made a mistake. And he did a nice job in pointing that out. So that's the kind of thing that. When it's done right. Instead of just saying well she must be right about what she said. No I was wrong. There's a reason why I was wrong. And I'm not going to knock myself too hard for it. Wait till tomorrow. Wait till tomorrow. We're excited to read it. There you go. We will definitely make sure we share it with. The wicked tree community as well. Please please do. Because it really does point out how. What's that word again? Collaboration. Exactly. And point people in the right direction. Always helps with fresh eyes. Indeed it does. So again we thank you Judy so much. I know everybody had a blast working on your tree. Thank you Lucy. Thank you everybody who is watching. And everybody who will be watching in the future that maybe is not live. Thank you as well. And just it was it was great. Like we said we don't have a anybody for this week but still to stay tuned for next week. We have our next our next genealogy guest our Thomas McKinty will be next week Wednesday at 8 p.m. Eastern time. And then we still have our Saturday live cast at 10 a.m. Eastern time where we're just kind of recap the week. Kind of talk about the challenge a little bit. And any updates about wiki tree Saturday at 10 a.m. We do that. And other people are going to blog about wiki tree. Just do it. Blog about it. Tweet about it. Oh yeah. That's actually Ellen Thompson Jennings. She's got the shop the Hound site. She's our wiki tree guest in week 13. So. Oh week 13. Can't wait for that. Again. We're on week what. This is like six. Six. I think I'm sitting on six. Six weeks down. However many more to go. Minus 52. 652 minus six. However many more that is. That's how many more we have left. That's too much math for right now. Exactly. There are can never math. It is known. And thank you for having me as part of. Thank you everyone. We will see you guys next time. And that'll be all. That's all folks.