 This is the one that I wanted to go over right here. The say cheese post, right? Somebody posted the Mac shout out to the Mac just at Erin Elm says, Glorilla, the first female unisex rapper, LOL. Her shit be sliding in the whip, right? And of course, the question is, is this true? Tis this true? And by unisex, by the way, for y'all who came figure it out, he's basically saying, yes, a female rapper who can be listened to by dudes, right? Y'all, dudes don't really give give women the credit they deserve a lot of times, you know, guys don't quite feel comfortable you know, bumping the whip and having the music on. And then somebody else slide up at the light. You go, let me turn that whole down just a little just a little bit. I think I turn it up. You know, hey, turn it up. Try the right crowd, bro. Hey, I like that. Track the right crowd. Track the right crowd. You turn that thing up and you're looking dead in the eye. Like, if it's a dude, you be like, what, bro? What's you going to do? This ain't for you anywhere, bro. You ain't about to be over here. This ain't for you, man. That's how you intimidate them, bro. If you own it. Or y'all bun. And they're like, or you bond. That's your file, right, bro? You're like, yeah, that shit is fine. That's what it is, bro. Before we even get in the answer of this, because that's, bro, it's so true. I remember the summer, not when it came out, but when it blew up because it took a year to blow up. Boot up. Oh, yeah. But that jungle was everywhere, everywhere. And me and my guy brother, we went to Murrow Beach on a trip, a biker week. You know about biker week? Yeah, we were up there. It's a wild trip. Hey. Hey, man, just two dudes, two, like, it wasn't even like so big plan stuff is just like, hey, bro, we going. That's that's a few enough people where you could really be agile and get into shit and get out of it, too. So that drunk was bumping everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. And I remember these bikers do these biker dudes using that song to pull women, man. Like they would just, they would just be, you know, pull, you know, post it up, playing it. And every time a woman passed by, oh, yeah, that's my shit, boot up, start dancing with them. Anytime a song can do that for one, like you said, like you said, the right crowd. Like, hey, that's what you turned it up. Yeah, bro, exactly. I know who the target audience is when you thought that shit on you. You know who you're trying to, trying to brand yourself. Hey, man, these are the vibes. It's like, hey, dog, I don't want you around right now. Sometimes that shit just hit, bro. You remember when Meg first started popping, it was hard being a Meg exciting friend as a guy. Like, it was tough, bro. Yes. It was tough. Yes. See, and I, like, I remember because actually it was before she blew up. I don't know if you ever saw that clip. So back when I was doing a venture ATL heavy, I posted her freestyle, the Meg freestyle as a part of our promo campaign. And that came out probably about eight months before she blew up or whatever. But the, but the shit was so hard, bro. It's that one she's like in a neighborhood or whatever. Yeah. And just freestyling, bro. That jump was so hard. And people were like, yo, who's this? Who's this? Who's this? Cause it was hard, right? But I was able to get it under the guise of the brand at that time. He weren't associating with just me. But, you know, as you start to play, play the music more as you start pop. Like you said, it was, it definitely became a thing. And I don't think it's ever gotten to that point where you can play Meg and people be comfortable with it, to be honest. Like it's not the same type of comfort. Yeah. People know that she's a big artist, right? Yeah. But it's not the same as bumping this glorial of shit. Niggas was singing a while. Well, a lot of me right now say, a lot of me right now say though, those lyrics ain't never left your lips. There isn't a God listening to this podcast right now. They can say that word, those words never came out of their mouth at least once. I don't know, man. And if you do said you lying, bro. And it's okay. Cause it's a safe space, bro. Like I'm not going to judge. Like shit, bro. I don't know, bro. I don't, I might not, I might not asleep that with that dog. I definitely unplayed the song. Oh wait. No, I wasn't thinking of what. I was gonna say, but I was like, I don't know if I slid that one out though. That was a little, I was thinking about Savage. There we go. I was thinking about Savage. Okay. I'm glad you corrected that, bro. I was trying not to go too hard on you, bro. I was like, bro, like what? This wet ass pussy, bro. It just don't, it don't relate to me. That one was like first person. You really can't. Yeah, I was kind of with you with that. Savage, Savage was what I was trying to think of, bro. That one I got you, bro. That one I got you and Beyoncé got on and she was two when I heard the remix. I was like, dang, bro. They wrote the hell out of Beyoncé for a semester, bro. Heard she went hard. She had this one bar. What did she say? Fuck, what's that line, bro? Something about, I can't even think of the line, bro. I just remember she had this one bar that I felt like as a guy I wasn't supposed to be singing. I was like this shit, fuck. I'm gonna have to look it up. I was like this shit is crazy, bro. Look it up. I'm gonna add some context. But I am so glad that she retracted the WAP shit, bro. I was trying to, I was like, I don't know, bro. That was tough. But here's the thing. Glowrilla literally the moment I heard FNF, I literally said, I think I said this on last podcast. Like literally, I was like, bro, this shit's a hit. Like I was with my wife, bro. I was like five seconds in, not five seconds, but like 30 seconds in legit though. I was like, bro, this shit's crazy. This is a hit. What song is this? Turn it up. And I was like, oh yeah, this is gonna be my new shit. So that song, yes. And then everything that I've heard there after, bro, is definitely on that tip where for whatever reason it cuts through dudes or they cool with it. And matter of fact, what's his name? Nah, Shuggy Duggy, damn. Shuggy Duggy. Shuggy Duggy, old school. What is the, ah, the influencer Drake and he did the dance, Shiggy. Shiggy, yeah. He had a post basically saying that. Like dudes, bro, like we're the songs that I shouldn't be out here singing FNF like this. Like we're the guy songs that could make me feel like this. It's been like a common topic and experience ever since it came out. Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's very true. And it's interesting though, because the one you acknowledge, just saying this whole conversation acknowledges that women do have it harder when it comes to breaking through at the same level of pop, right? You talk about the levels of pop, you got like a specific culture. We know white culture is the predominant culture considered pop culture. And then people break into like people get considered or you're selling out or you now mainstream once you break out of your main culture, right? So then black hip hop culture specifically in this conversation is like the next barrier. But then within that barrier, a woman can be hot. Even commercially, like visibly, we know you're it, but musically like might not necessarily crossover to the male side. Cause a woman can go pop, you know, obviously they go into pop female culture, but still not musically hit into pop male culture. So it's interesting that they do have it that hard away cause guys don't really experience that side of it. Yeah. And I think it says a lot too though about the power of the female audience, right? Like having like a large women fan base. I think that there are, there are women rappers that can survive without having a male audience. But there, I will argue there are any male rappers that could survive without having like female audience. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't hit the same. I don't think, you know? I think males can survive without a female audience. Like a large part of my life. But that, you can't be on that level. No, without a female audience, but you can be niche. Like I'd argue somebody like, like Cardi. Yeah, Cardi is, he has a female audience, but it's still more predominantly male. Yeah, a hundred percent. Like anywhere in that type of niche. All right, but again, that's, he's still not considered at the higher level of, you know, a pop scale. Yeah. You can't be up, you can't be there. Yeah, a hundred percent. Without a female audience, which is crazy. Right? It was like, so they, they have all the power to make anybody go. Yeah. Basically. So, and it, which sucks about that though, is that's why this is a conversation in the first place. Right? You pull this back up. And I don't agree with that. That's why I said first female unisex rapper, because, you know, we know that there's already males that go both ways in terms of the fan base. So yes, and yes, I don't agree with it either. Yeah. I don't either. I'm going to let you go ahead and give your, your take on those. Yeah, I would agree with, I would say it was Nicki Minaj, bro. Nicki Minaj is probably, at least, I am anti-Nicki in that. I'm so anti-Nicki in that. So I want to hear what you guys say. I feel like for our age range, Nicki Minaj was the first female rapper that made, that made guys feel like it was cool to bump female rap. Nah. That's what I say to that, bro. I say nah. Like, what Nicki songs are dudes seriously bumping? Monster. That's not a Nicki song. Man, you're right, it's fair, but that won a lot of us, that won a lot of us over. Highly respected, like dudes respect her lyricism and know that she's actually a dope artist, well above many of the other female MCs on that commercial scale in this era. Like she's a true, like we know she writes, we know she got the juice and on Monster. Like for real, I've listened to that thing back so many times, not just in the moment, but over the years and it's still like. Crazy, bro. It's like, damn. You killed that shit, bro. You killed. This was your song. You got it, right? So that alone is there, right? Undeniable to me. But if you look at her catalog. So I was just about to pull it up, man, I mean. You got that bass. Super bass, hard. Bro, come on. Hard. Super. I don't know where I got it. Let me go to Spotify, bro. What am I doing? I'm not saying they're not good songs, but they're not songs that are culturally accepted from the male side that we can bump this shit because it's so hard. It's just not like so. So that's the thing. That's the thing that I felt like Cardi had. Now, to me, Nicki Minaj is better than Cardi B in terms of an artist, right? I don't think Cardi B even wants to be as good and she doesn't even have the same aspiration to be truly seen as a rapper artist like Nicki does. But ironically, her first hit was one of those songs that something that Nicki, in my opinion, never had that male's bumped on a commercial level, not just old someone of her B-sides or something that's not as popping that male's felt comfortable bumping in like, oh, yeah, her street record, y'all don't, y'all ain't over. Am I talking about that? So don't give me your personal life story in what you relate to. Now you digging through the crapes. Commercial scale success, a song that males and females both bumped. Bodak Yellow was one of those songs. Yeah, that's true. That's true, yeah. What song like that does Nicki have? Commercial, see the commercial part is what makes it hard. That's what makes it hard. Cause I was gonna say maybe Roman's Revenge. Yep, that's my dear. That wasn't, I mean Eminem on it. And it has to be solo too. That was another thing. No, this was her song. He was featured on it. I mean, just like Jess, her solo. I mean, exactly. All right. That makes even more difficult. Let me go, let me go look at this pink print. The love. I feel like that was something, bro. I feel like I'm missing something. Peels and potions. How's it go? Bro, you fall, you fall with peels and potions, bro. Nah, I bet. Bro, you ain't fucked with peels and potions, bro. That's crazy, bro. That's wild, bro. I'm learning so much about you right now. This is the thing. I don't not fuck with Nicki Minaj. It's not, it's just that specific criteria. It's just like when somebody has all these accolades, you won a championship, you were MVP, but you weren't finals MVP. Or you were finals MVP, but you weren't first team all defense. It's just another one of those small little notches, right? That specifically, culturally accepted by males. And that was not, that was not anywhere near one of Nicki Minaj's like most successful. Okay, fair enough. There was. I'm talking about that level of impact, right? That's all I'm talking about. In the comments. Nah, that's fine. That's all, that's all I'm talking about. So it's just an interesting, you know, splitting hairs argument when it comes to Nicki Minaj, right? Now, on the other side though, not Nicki to me, but you got Missy Elliott. Okay. Oh, Ashley. Ashley, yeah. Like what's the argument there? Like that's something to me to say that you, that's just to be outdated. Like hers never had a one sided type vibe. It was kind of just like Missy was just Missy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that simple. Who else? Is there anybody else? I think I saw somebody say something. Somebody said, Dage Lowe. Dage Lowe. Yeah, I was about to say that. Yeah, Dage Lowe. Did you feel like that about Dage Lowe? Yeah. Try me. I feel like Try Me, that song definitely works. Yeah, Try Me did. I don't remember too many of her other like bigger songs. Yeah. I'm not sure like at least, I think two or three others, but Try Me definitely brought the world together. I agree. I agree. I agree. That specific song. Now it's very interesting that Glo Rilla does have multiple songs. She probably has at least three that can go both ways at this point. At least two. At least two. She got F and F in Tomorrow. Yeah. And then you listen to her. A problem is that the same song as Tomorrow? That's not the same song. The problem. I'm bad with song names, man. You listen to her album? I'm so bad. Yeah, but I'm so bad with song names. It's the, 99 Problems or whatever problems. Oh god, 99 Problems, but the biggest one is me. Biggest one is me. That's Tomorrow, then. Yeah, that's Tomorrow. Yeah, that's Tomorrow, yeah. I'm so bad with song names, man. So, hey, y'all know what, y'all go ahead and kill me, whatever. Pop that shit. Yeah. So Tomorrow, F and F, she got one more. She has one more. Looking good as hell today. Just send my nigga five attachments? Right. Bar. She got it. Right. Yeah, I mess with her so bad, but. Yeah. All right, so we got her. We got Missy. Yeah, actually, I'm looking at Day's low shit, bro. Day's low also had me, you and Hennessy, and that shit was a bop, but it had a little wind on it. So we, you know, we're not counting features in it. Right. Right, not counting features. And. Hey there with Future. And I feel like she had the potential for a lot more of those, though, that it did go both ways. It's just, I don't know to back in her career why things kind of shit out. Cause she didn't like achieve the trajectory that you thought she would be on when she first hit. Yeah. Yeah. But she definitely has it in her. I mess with Day's low heavy. Yeah, she felt like one of those situations where like, I think she just didn't want to do it anymore. I mean, it could be, you know, probably something, but. Yeah, you know, I don't know what the back end, like I said, is, but it was never like a you fell off. People ain't fucking with you. Like you dropping some wack shit type situation. Yeah. You know, if anything, it was like things cooled off and then by the time you dropped again for whatever, you know, it's just harder to catch the momentum or maybe you don't have support or labels or, but like, yeah. So it was, it's interesting. I've seen that. It seemed like that with a lot of girls. I felt like that with Drizzy too. So I don't, you know, females we stand with y'all. Part of me also wants to argue Coyla right, but I don't feel like I can roast her in the comments. Coyla. Go ahead and put your rapper ballot in. My God, go ahead. Bro, cause I'm looking at her shit, bro. She had no more parties. Everybody was fucking with no more parties. Okay. She had, but we're not counting features, bro. I was like, she had big power of push ice. Blick, Blick, when Nicki Minaj just fall, that's all I got so far. All right. She is arguing. Oh, blah shit. I think that's arguable. Yeah, she got a song she just dropped called Flash in September. That shit fall. I think, yeah, I think she can sit in there. Now they, no more parties. Like it's not a lot of them. That's the highest level of, you know, pop that hit both. Yeah. I guess we just got a TBD with her. Yeah. And I would still argue that before 2021, we could have said Matt is down, but I feel like 2021 up. Oh yeah, she leaned in. They know that it's all purposeful. We, hey, bro, we don't need these dudes. We going straight for the women. They don't want us to be paying anyway. The show is going to be safer. And he's creep any. Nah, yeah, she don't need us. I feel it, but hey, you know, but if WAP is something you want to ever, you know, re-argue though. Last time it was WAP was five, bro. It went ahead for no reason. Hey, no one said it wasn't a hit. No one said it didn't go hard for what it is. I'm just saying I wasn't bumping that, bro. Wait, did we say Cardi B in up? Yes. We did say Cardi B. Yeah, she bowed that yellow, remember? Yeah, okay, yeah. We didn't mention any of her other stuff to be real, but I like it like that went hard. That shit. Now I don't believe that's the name of that song either. Like I said, I'm so bad at song names. What's Cardi B's fan base called? I don't know. I don't know either actually. That's about something. That's about to say the Cardi Dashians. I don't know why that was the first thing that came out of my head. I don't know what you call a fan base, but I'm in it, bro. I'm dead. And that is a signal it is time to move. The fuck off. I just wanted to take a quick second and say thanks for watching. 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