 like back to go into reality so all right James what was your name well I don't only introduce myself each time James I want you to think about something that you know you can't be wrong about is that cool William I want you to think about something that you know you can't be wrong it's alright if it's different things we're gonna all work on this together okay I think I'm not wrong about to and we'll go around just say the certainty thing that I can't be wrong about I would like a hundred like it's something you know you can't be wrong about is what I would call like a hundred percent sorry like you know for a fact that you can't be wrong about it like that what's more certain than that like you don't even want to ask any more questions about it like it's just so obvious so true it's it is it is or whatever you want to say like we're gonna go on top of that is there anything like that for you um the thing that at least most confident about even if there's nothing like that let's see um I would say the pretty much the foundational thing I would kind of get to something like the laws of logic are reliable the laws of logic are 100% reliable yes I would go out I would venture to make that claim okay James what do you got um I mean yeah if I if I was forced to pick something that had that high of a degree of certainty one of the things we did in my when we swamped for that very last role-play and I was doing essay on the other guy he said I believe in the science like science like science or the scientific method 200% like that the scientific method is the most reliable way to like discover truths about reality is that your position I don't know what you I think I would agree with that yeah to 100% certainty the scientific method is the most reliable method sure known or period known no because again I try not to believe anything to 100% like third you should always be open to changing your mind always be yes 100% certain on that huh are you 100% we're getting too fast into yeah I was I was thinking about a description of repeated observations I would say the laws of logic work similarly okay um you know we've really don't have we don't have a single count example that you know something that is itself all that stuff do you know what he's talking about I am I'm I've heard I can break down as I say I've heard the identity non contradiction yeah exclude middle but I have not looked into that to know what each of those so it is it isn't what it is so if I had a car I have a car in parking lot right now every car in that parking lot is either my car or not my car would that make sense okay is that identity well I mean does that at least make sense yes would you agree with me either own it or you do not yeah either car is either my car every car in national is either my car or not my car yes everything on earth is either my car or not my car mm-hmm every with me so yes everything in the universe is either my car or not my car I can have two sets of yes or it's not my car as long as I well define what my car is I could say is X or is not X yeah that explains all three modes of that because there's no middle ground my car is my car and what's not my car is not my car yeah okay I'm fine with that the thing is how do we prove it not to be true the case how do you how do you falsify that because we have to assume that it's true to even try to falsify it I mean but I think that in of itself would be the evidence right is it so if we can we falsify it can we falsify it I mean we would have to is not falsifying something proof that it's true is it a posh show it is not falsifying something yeah is the fact that we can't falsify it proof that it's true no okay so it seems like it's not so much that it's not so much that I don't have a lot of confidence that it's true it's just that I'm always open door like show me a good way to falsify it and I'll be like okay cool but right now I'm like that's why that's for me one of the things I'm most confident about yeah I'm like as nines down to the down to put on beyond but I would never be a hundred percent until I know how to falsify something even if I couldn't falsify I just like it's unknown but I'm there's nothing else I'm probably more confident than that what do you think about that let's see so I think so everything you just said so you would believe in these laws more if only if you were able to falsify them yeah I love things that I know where my not hits are yeah as well as my hits yes and if I don't know where my non hits are how can I be a hundred percent confident that I gotta so I mean this is a this is a similar thing to how would I falsify like Newton's second law so in the sense of in the event let's pretend I didn't I don't know it's a perfectly fine answer yeah and I'm measuring my confidence on based on what I can demonstrate yeah and I think that's a reasonable position yeah well so I mean for instance if I were to try to do an experiment that would demonstrate Newton's second law and I were to get something maybe like mass equals or force equals mass times philosophy instead of mass times acceleration so and that obtains well hey well now I have an observation yeah that contradicts now but the problem is will that ever happen it hasn't happened yet well here's now I could do similar thing with a lot of logic correct and I'm and all I'm saying is 99.99999 represents an open-mindedness that I could be wrong about yeah which is always more reliable or more rational position then I'm so confident that I don't even ask questions about it oh yes and when I say like hey third second law of thermodynamics yeah here now sure but when the universe is being formed who knows what the rules were yeah near heat death yeah who knows what the rules will be then these might be an ever we might see we might be seeing a spectrum of change with these equations that change slightly over time and percentable to our short lifetimes I'm open to being wrong yes that's all that means and I think that's no rational position yes I definitely I would definitely agree if there were to be some sort of demonstration or otherwise evidence that laws of logic were not reliable yes then of course I would change and the way how I see it is someone who's so confident that they aren't going to change your mind even if they were presented that kind of evidence would be more confident than you mm-hmm so you couldn't be at a hundred percent I could not be a hundred percent then I guess so this was I would say the closest to a hundred percent that I could have given you nice I'm right there with you yeah I mean I mean this bump it yeah absolutely oh yeah I mean I not bad I mean honestly I mean I guess I came in there wasn't a this is close to a hundred there's some other things I feel like sure like I mean I don't think Infinity War is a good movie period I probably I would a hundred percent not taking the bait it ain't good it ain't good and we could talk about oh it's not good it's not good it's half a movie and I want to do yours things first man in fact I even said mine I mean said mine I could say okay you you you want a good movie what spider-verse sorry oh I watched it there's oh was it a good fantastic god damn have you seen spider-verse I was watching with a friend and after that movie I just turned her I just well that was a perfect movie it was a perfect I was in the movie theater and I was like I had so much hype going into this and then I left I was like it was even better than the comic book that was based on that almost could have been a better claim a spider spider-verse was perfect movie a hundred percent if you want to do another round with try what you got that might be a good one for me to go okay scientific method is the most reliable one that we know about yes