 Take your seat please. Yes sir. I am not sure. Relax. Yes sir. That's very nice. Why is Velour famous? Sir, Velour is famous for Velour Mutiny. It happened in 1806. Much before the first war of independence. It is... But Mutiny lasted for what time? Sir, it lasted only for... for a day or two sir. Oh, for a day. But that was the first Indian Mutiny against the British. Yes sir. Isn't it? In India as the first one? First Mutiny against the British. Why is Velour famous now? Sir... Why Velour is famous now? Now it is famous for Christian Medical College which was built by Dr. Aida Skadar and now famous for Golden Temple Velu Fort and that's it sir. Specifically, now currently it is famous and not sure sir. You have taken sociology optional? Yes sir. I felt sociology would help me understand the realities of society in more intense ways than taking any other option. Understanding the society would help me in the administration as well. So I thought sociology would be a better option. Have you heard of National Register of Citizens? Yes sir. What is that? It is a registry which... I am not sure of that. You have not heard about National Register of Citizens? I heard it but I couldn't say it properly National Population Register? Yes sir. What is that? It was accounting for the residence of India which was carried out in almost all parts of India sir. It is covered already? No sir, it is in implementation stage. But came in 2010? Yes sir. Citizens amendment act have you heard? Yes sir. What is that? It is for providing citizenship for the persecuted minorities in the neighboring countries of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan sir. Is Afghanistan a neighboring state? Yes sir. How? It adjoins some part of Jammu Kashmir at the top. But Gilgit-Baldistan Sir? Gilgit-Baldistan has 150 km of border with India technically isn't it? Yes. So from these three countries who are the people who have to be given citizenship? The minorities of those countries religious persecuted religious minorities of those countries like Hindus, Christians Buddhists, Jains, Zoroastrians and one more community six communities. Six communities. And why these three countries have been taken? Why not others? That is where religious persecution was predominant in those countries sir. But religious persecution how do they prove? The person has to prove that he has persecuted. How do they prove? The decline in the population of those minorities in those countries can be one such proof. He was becoming a minority doesn't entitle you to citizenship here. He was persecuted. And what was the persecution? What was the fear of persecution? How shall you prove those things? I feel the decrease in the population of those minorities could be taken as one example like they are persecuted. Sorry sir, I am not sure. Like let's say Tamils of Sri Lanka. They are the most persecuted the Rohingyas in Myanmar and now even 7 lakhs in Bangladesh. Why not they are Muslims? Why not they? Sorry sir, I am not sure. Even the Uighur Muslims of China in Jingjing province even they are persecuted they are persecuted the most. Because they are concentration camps they are kept. Why they have not been taken? Why these 3 countries only? I will read into it sir. I am not sure. Some states have said that they will not obey the citizenship act and national population and others from states have said and Kerala has gone to Supreme Court. The government has a choice not to obey central laws. As per the constitution the state governments has to oblige with the orders of central government but they can also voice their grievances against the government sir. But it is the central government that finally decides. You are not very clear. What is article 246? Sir, excuse me. Article 246 No sir. Article 356 What is that? The orders of central government has to be carried out by the state government if not article 356 is president's rule sir. If in the opinion of the president the administration of the state cannot be carried on in accordance to the constitution then you will declare to that. So can you impose article 356? If they do not obey the central government's laws and instructions under article 246? It can be sir. After the SRBOMI judgment in 1993 article 356 has become a dead electoral practically. So how shall they do it? Sorry sir. Okay. You had said that you had taken sociology in order to know the realities of the society. So after taking socialism and what are the realities of society that you have understood? Sir, I have learned to see the other side of the problem like why people are actually behaving in such a manner why there is social problem and change occurring which is anticipated and non-anticipated functional and dysfunctional aspects of such some practices within communities etc. Can you give some examples also? Sir, most probably we have read about Sanskritization of the sociological thinker M.N. Srinivas. I have felt that process even in my own family where a ritually lower caste imitates the practices of a ritually higher caste though they cannot get a caste mobility they can't raise the ladder of the caste they feel that even if we try to imitate their practices we will gain some recognition like that so they adapt the practices of higher caste this practice even I have felt it just carried out widely in many places. That you would be knowing even otherwise like even before taking UPSC as an option? Sir, I was I didn't know why we were taking these kind of practices? Sir, how did M.N. Srinivas give an outline of why this practice is taken? What is the advantage which a community gets by adopting the lifestyle of another community? Sir, it is basically the recognition they need like they feel dominated by the upper caste but they cannot raise the ladder of the caste because of restrictions like occupation birth that all decides their restricts their mobility but in terms of ritual practices if they try to adapt that they feel they are equal to the upper caste Okay, so Tamil Nadu you are from Tamil Nadu right? It is known for many social moments the most famous among that was the Dravidian movement. So is the concept of sensitization it's in direct contradiction with that of the Dravidian politics? Sir, to an extent Like, you have to write in more detail to an extent Dravidian movements basically wanted to over through the dominance of upper caste they opted for self-respect movement wherein they went even for self-respect marriages where the upper caste were not involved in the process of marriage the lower caste tried to prove identity on their own so we can tell like sensitization is removing your own identity and going behind someone's identity but Dravidian movements opted for showcasing your own identity rather than following the rules of the upper caste And in Tamil Nadu has there been any example where any community has tried to do sensitization like follow the sensitization practices of upper caste Can you name one or two communities Sir, it happens in pockets of places where most of the Vaishyas take the practices of upper caste people So is it that North India has taken to sensitization in order to counter this casteism and South India has believed in self-respect movement in order to bring an end to the upper caste dominance Can you please repeat this In North India to counter this upper caste dominance people have adopted sensitization In South India in order to counter the upper caste dominance people have followed the Dravidian movement Is it like that or has it happened in North also like this self-respect Sir, I am not sure of the self-respect movements in North but even they are trying to establish their own identity over the upper caste And regarding this Kerala government has gone against the central government's act which was passed in the parliament Is it a contradiction to federalism to the concept of federalism Sir, every government has can voice their resentment against the government but You can go to supreme court only if there is a dispute between the center and state this is not a dispute per se suppose it's like water sharing or something like that only then they can go directly to supreme court or do you think the Kerala government could have simply passed a resolution in the assembly against CA what was the need to go to supreme court Okay And you had specified in your DAF that you were in faculty in the 93 G what was the role your role in that and what was your work profile in the 93 G Sir, I handled three subjects on laboratory sir I took classes for B Tech and M Tech students In which subject? In cognitive radio, environmental engineering and basics of electronics Were you an alumni of 93 G No sir So they recruit even outside It's only an Hadock faculty contract like status like for any year they will recruit from Hadock So do you think your environmental engineering right, you have been a faculty in that, can it be like will it help you in your like as a civil servant when you can't carry out the activities in whichever service you get will environmental engineering play a role if so how Most of the development projects and infrastructure projects are in direct tussle with environmental issues in recent times So having a knowledge of environment will better help in better policy framing sir Can you give an example Sir, for example the Colbert methane project which is an issue in Tamil Nadu Neutrino observatory project and various dams that were constructed across India and the environmental movements against by the people can as some example Sir Imagine that civil servant you are working in a rural environment where there is frequent caste conflicts What will be your long term and short term measures to counter What is the problem Sir as a short term measure I would sit with the caste groups which are in conflict I will directly try to address them and provide some short term relief in the long term there has to be behavioural changes in the system society itself So we will start with the schools in the education system where students from across every caste will be made into one group where they can share their experience I can make people from different caste students from different caste groups into one house different houses we can create and incultivate them some teams for it and then like this identity What is your view on caste Sir as far as that identity does not discriminate other people and does not deprive others of their esteem caste identity is good Sometimes we say education as a solution to some of the problems in that one caste Some people say look if there is a change in the economic condition there will be a reduced number of conflicts Which one do you think is the real problem the real solution is it an economic solution or education Sir I think both has to be addressed simultaneously Sir That is why even the constitution of India has provided reservation based on educational as well as economic backwardness There is a concept called dominant caste numerically high and economically powerful people can alter the caste dynamics of that place So even economics helps to some extent and education is even more powerful when it comes in changing the caste dynamics So the competition brings out the best audiences are ways the best students are chosen in the corporate environment best are chosen in the competitive situation the whole idea of competition and quality in terms of temporities Sir not exactly sir where some people were not even allowed to enter the competition there should be a level playing field for all the people to take part in the activities So there has to be reservations Sir You belong to the new district of Tamil Nadu Which other district got trifurcated from Vellur Sir this is Ranipe and Thirupathur got trifurcated from Vellur And which other three districts have been formed in Vellur but along with Thirupathur the other three districts It is I am not sure of the districts Have you heard of Sendai framework So in the social aspect which particular goals have been set in Sendai framework for the risk reduction which a population could get protected during a disaster I am not aware of that much details of the Sendai framework And for the social welfare which particular sustainable development goals have been set which targets for the security for the female population And that is sustainable development goal 5 which helps for gender equality and there are some other goals also I am not able to recollect the numbers exactly So you have your degree with wireless communication and satellites So in what way should we implement wireless communication much more better so that the information, dissemination becomes much more easier to all the parts of the country that is one and who is deprived of this entire communication facility in the country these two questions How wireless communication is So that the dissemination of information could be made much more faster and equaled to all the population First digital literacy has to be developed among the population to learn about how system of communication works and digital infrastructure has to be built even for the last connectivity and in the remote places also there has to be communication so information can be decimated properly The population which is deprived is mostly the tribal population and some pockets of remote locations in the country And my second one was Second question was Which population is deprived of who it has been answered You have mentioned one of your hobbies watching movies What kind of movies I watch mostly from Tamil Malayalam and Hindi Mostly all genres My friend was Malayali Recently many Tamil Tamilians are watching Malayalam movies This was not a trend earlier Maybe because of the simplicity of the movies I think Low budget movies but with good messages Some Telugu Kannada movies they are all not simple high budget movies I feel they predominantly produce commercial kind of movies So that may not be dealing with a common man So our taste has changed Yes mummy How much taste has changed So why is Vijay in news recently Because of the IT rates that happen in this Okay So any information about about any private information Yes sir Yamini Yes sir By giving you a clue I am asking this question This question Let it be the first question Which was about 1806 Next year Next year India is going to celebrate 100th year of an important event What was it Repeat I will clue that It is connected with the 1806 100th year of 100th year of an important event Okay I will go further It is connected with Indian freedom struggle 1921 It is a watershed year in India's freedom struggle What was it And we are going to celebrate the 100th year Next year Civil disobedience Beyond that An important event I will give you another clue It was the killing of six policemen Chawri Chawarayan sir What was so unique about this Chawri Chawarayan sir Because there is a theory that Mahatma Gandhi Was so So So rigid in his Principles that If only All of the strike India would have got independence Century year begins Century year begins Before 1947 What happened in Chawri Chawarayan The way the mob Filed a police station During the course of civil disobedience During the course of civil disobedience Because of that Gandhi Then what happened Then what happened Can I just What can I say Can you just portray the incident What went wrong What happened and what went wrong I am aware of this only Even though they fired it So Gandhi ji suspended the movement As it is Against a non-violence And Not in a constitutional He suspended What for he has suspended The whole nation was on the move He has suspended the movement There are aging debates Even now This has happened years ago But still when any student Of Indian freedom struggle Cannot bypass this incident So now Since we belong to Tamil Nadu What is your view on Jallikattu It is a cultural sport That has been in practice Since many long years It has been Even mentioned in a Tamil epi So The court has allowed it But do we Need Jallikattu Yes sir but with regulated What regulation It should be ensured That the animals are not Tormented during the game And medical facilities Has to be around In spite of all the precautions We were We are not able to stop The death of persons This year alone Over six persons were killed Five of them are Either Bull tamers Or spectators But there was one policeman Twenty nine year old policeman Was standing as God He was killed Because the bull Was a gory death And he was the only son of his Our mother Now my question is that How will you justify this Do we still need this sport The so called sport You can justify at least Logically one can Understand the killing of The death of five people Because either they are bull tamers Or participants who know the risks And went there He is just a constable And the only breadwinner of the family And will answer the tears of his mother Who is now a loner Who will still support this delicate Any event will have both Positive and negative effects Or positive and negative We have to make sure Better Safeguard procedures and And this happened after Several precautionary measures Which includes 25 veterinarians Over a dozen ambulances Sports of policemen District officials Even the computer was present But still a lone constable Was standing away from the venue Got killed Is this a necessary killing Is this a necessary risk Worth taken in life Was recruited to the force To get killed in this manner It is an avoidable one One can understand He was killed while chasing Roboids or chasing some antisocial Or killed by While on his duty Protected the country and the society Do you understand We have caught what I am trying to say I am asking the other side Of Jallikattu Everybody is now saying that Jallikattu is one I am asking the other side Is it not barbaric In any school Society allow this Cruelty to animals is one angle In essence get killed Sir, if in case This continues In long term That is some more over a dozen Constables killed in the next three to four years You will change your opinion Sir, not that way Don't forget one thing that Uniformed persons killed Only at the lower level No senior police officer is getting killed Anyway you think about it See, you are a Basically you are an engineer I mean You are a highly qualified person Why do you want to become a civil servant Sir, at the end of the day you will be at the All of politicians You have to carry out their orders You will not have any say Sir, I thought taking this job Would have Diversity of challenges I could cater to the Needs of larger sections of people Than to an aeroset like Students This would be more Challenging I thought That's the only reason Sir, yes sir You wasted Yes Be and be You would have studied sociology or literature or History Any humanity subject Sir, I could implement the technical Colleges which I gained from My College studies in the Administrations See, recently Two IAS officers have resigned After CEI Do you know their names One is from Kerala What was his name? Kanran IAS Another one Another one is a Tamilian But he is a Kannada Kerala Leave along the names Do you as a future civil servant Do you support Do you endorse what they have did No sir When it comes to the Professional choice One has to oblige with One has to subside his personal choices Because It is the government That formulates Policies for the people and we are Implementing it There has to be no tussle between Your personal ideology and the Government ideology If they feel that My allegiance is only to the Constitution of India, not to the Owners and one My conscience says that This particular act Violates the Constitution And I am resigning I am not doing anything against The society or government I am not Taking arms So in that sense how will you say they are wrong And they have gone to the people They have not done anything wrong They have to They could have voiced their resentment To the Government What will happen Nothing is going to change Just if you understand I am asking Think about it Sir Initially it seems you should say That you are not aware One question was asked You started saying something and then said I am not aware of it That one and then The CIA, NRC and NPR are the most Important topics so you can't say that I am not aware of that you should be Throw of it And one more you said it is a state's duty To implement the order of the central government That is just a layman's language More preferable would be like An act passed in the parliament Or a law passed in parliament The central government is like Implementing Not an order of the central government And then it is 100 years of non-cooperation Not civil disobedience 1920 was non-cooperation So that one And then if you ask something To an extent there should be instances For examples like the fact that You should not ask an example Whatever question is asked to tell The concept followed by one or two examples It is very good Then when sir asked like The two bureaucrats have said You said he is from Kerala You don't need to start with the native place Of the bureaucrats And then when sir asked like When you become a bureaucrat Politicians will be like Giving the order set over the implement You said that You want to serve the society But you didn't counter that question Of sir That politicians are like If we implement unconstitutional orders We will oppose it We will have to be firm on that Because in IAS and IPS Especially local level politicians They will ask you to do so many unconstitutional things Which we are able to say The panel will be looking whether you will be able to Maintain the neutrality And in Gopinathan's case I will just give you one small information This is actually a fact Gopinathan Is saying He was the first one to resign Then only Saseekant The second The second guy is Saseekant And then Gopinathan says He is the Kerala leader of He was the administrator of Dadan Agarayawali He was some specific one He was saying that I am not questioning the Centres, the union governments Power to abrogate Saseekant Perfectly the centre has got the power But at the same time The people of Jammu and Kashmir have also Got their right Constitutively guaranteed right To protest it Since the government is not Giving that right and denying That right to protest I am resigning Just look at it carefully He is not questioning the centre's decision Or right to abrogate a particular Or decrease on it He says the centre may be well within its right But the second one is Likewise the people have a right To protest Constitutively guaranteed right Since that was not allowed I am resigning What should be the stand I will tell you In Jammu and Kashmir He has asked what stand she should take In Jammu and Kashmir The article has not been abrogated It has been inactivated With respect to the The centre's resigning Starting their personal choice But what you will take is that What Ahmed has done Is almost right Because of many reasons It is a temporary provision Now I will elaborate on this Because some days back I gave a 15 minute speech on that Because one candidate asked the same question When all of us were sitting So we were sitting also Now let us go to article 370 Article 370 one says That if the president Extends Any item Beyond what is written in the Instrument of accession Then he has to take the State legislative assembly 370 3 says If any part of this article Is to be changed Then the The approval of the constitutional assembly Is to be taken Of Jammu and Kashmir Existed from 1950 to 1957 January 26th The constitution was adopted on November 17th 1956 So It is no more there Article 370 came in 1949 Who drafted Article 370 Sir, by the Order of President It was introduced It was drafted by whom? Gopal Swami Aayangar Yesterday somebody gave me a reply It is in Nehru or Patel Gopal Swami Aayangar By the Gopal Swami Aayangar Who was the Devan of Maharaja Harish Singh From 1937 to 1942 So he was the main president He entered the constitutional assembly in 1948 This was drafted He said Jammu Kashmir is not yet right So The instrument of accession has been signed But they have not merged with India That is what they are saying All others have merged Which is the last state to merge Manipur 1949 So It was in 1949 That 370 was drafted By which time there is no constitutional assembly But there is a reference to constitutional assembly So both are existing at different times Supposing I am giving one option Supposing Article 370 would not have been drafted In 1949 It would have been drafted as a constitutional amendment In 1958 or 1960 Then They have told that you will take the approval of the constitutional assembly No, they cannot say Because it is already over So two situations I am giving When constitutional assembly doesn't exist One is after Article 370 came One is before Article 370 came So they have In a very devious way, surreptitious way They have tried to make this article permanent Even though It was a temporary provision So constitutional assembly is approval is to be taken Till the constitutional assembly exists After its existence How can approval be taken Okay So what the government of India has done is right But they have done it in a different way All together They have done it in a different way But they have done The constitutional assembly has been equated With the state legislative assembly Because it is no more able It is not on the suspension It is not resolved Then parliament has the powers of parliament So this is the way they have taken What they have done is correct Article 370 has really become a A stumbling block If you have seen Kashmir In the grants Nothing is happening there for last 20 years No tourism, nothing, no revenue, nothing So it is completely existing on Indian grants So What the government has done The government has done the right thing But the problem was The permanent residency Permanent residency Then what happened in 1952 There was an agreement between Neheru and Sheikh Abdullah As for this agreement As for this agreement The president's order is not passed 1953 Sheikh Abdullah Sheikh Abdullah Again talked of plebiscites So independence So Neheru put him under prison From 1953 to 1975 22 years He was in prison Then a person called Bakshi Ghulam Muhammad Was better chief, he was more pro-India So He approved in the Constitutional Assembly The first Order of the presidential order Which you find in the Constitutional Appendix 1 So the first president's order was passed 1954 And which says in Article 35A 35A should be the fundamental rights chapter Because there are great people who start from 30 years So, but it's not the fundamental rights chapter It is in the Appendix 1 On the presidential order So 35A says That Jammu Kashmir Legislative Assembly To define who is a Parliament resident A Parliament resident has got some Some Benefits Benefits is that They can inherit the property And buy property there Second, they can have all the Government jobs and government scholarships And they will They will vote in the local election And assembly election Outsiders can vote in Parliament election So these are the three benefits Now this was called state subject law So far as PAC occupied Kashmir Is concerned Now Pakistan has violated that Within the state subject law In 1974 Now we have done it So that others can buy property there But there are other states also In India like Uttarakhand Uttarakhand, you cannot buy property there Unless you are resident there So like some Northeastern states The same thing happens But if Jammu Kashmir Other people are allowed to buy property there Then it will no more be Jammu and Kashmir or Bhushwark It will be a constant result Bombay people have got so much money They will all buy land there They will buy there This thing came in 1927 First Parliament residence law was Was enacted by Mara Jhajishi At that time Actually the provision was If you were born before 1911 Or you have property for 10 years In Jammu Kashmir Then you can buy property here Become a permanent citizen But actually it was slowly Slowly being changed But the difficulty is that Permanent residence If a boy Marries an outsider girl Girl will also be permanent citizen Children can also be great property They become permanent citizens But if a girl marries an outsider Then all will lose So this could have been addressed By a simple changing that law That if a girl also marries an outsider In that case also they will be permanent citizen Simple So because of this they have changed everything So you support the government of India That what they have drawn is correct And it is a devious way Temporary provision For how many years? 70 years have gone Temporary provision as permanent Look like permanent So this should be your view And so far as the central laws are concerned Obeying this thing As per article 246 and 365 365 365 Executive instructions given by the Government of India Executive instructions of Government of India Can be given only on Executive powers Executive powers are co-terminus With the legislative powers So it means Government of India cannot Given instruction law and order Because it is a state subject But they can give on the central subjects On those subjects they can give an instruction On central subjects So that as per article 365 Article 356 can be employed In the state Because 365 defines That if an instruction is not Adhere to by a state government It will be Legitimate for the president to Lawful for the president to hold That the administration of the state Cannot be carried on according to constitution Only one instance where Article 356 has been clearly said That it can be employed One instance the whole constitution So this you can argue that When instruction is given According to the executive power Please Subjects That case only Article 356 can be employed Okay sir Sir regarding the Jallikattu What stand are you talking about? What suggestion Which Jallikattu she is asking I was actually cornering her We are not discussing What is right and wrong But opinion are you giving And how are you Okay So it can go with the previous Stand like it can continue the sport itself 317 C.I.A. take the government's line Jallikattu you take your All the best Thank you sir