 Okay everyone, I think time is up and what we're gonna ask for now is whether there is a brave soul or two who would be willing to come up and share his or her elevator speech. Come on, this is fun. No it's not, it's terrifying. Two volunteers, perfect. So two volunteers, yeah two is great, we're actually hoping for two. So you can come up here, there's a microphone, I want to cause feedback. Hey, so you have to face them. Yeah we'll listen. Okay so you guys are I guess the media. Since I'm from Hawaii I'll say you're the Hawaiian media and I will try to stay away from words that are specific to Hawaii, although they would kind of know that for a bit. But aloha mai kakou, my name is Keana Frank, I'm at the University of Hawaii and I'm really interested in understanding how microbes interact with their environment. Now we don't really see microbes because they're so tiny, but they have such a big influence on our planet. They influence atmospheric compositions, what we can breathe. They influence the cycling of nutrients that are important for agricultural and aquacultural resources. And sometimes they can be potentially bad. And the thing about microbes because they're so small is we don't really understand a lot about them. So I'm really trying to get into our lands and our watersheds and ask some very basic questions, who's there, what they're doing and how fast they're doing this. And this is really important for our land managers and our stakeholders in trying to better understand how we can move towards the sustainability and resilience of our natural resources. And so I currently work in a native Hawaiian fish pond in a coastal region and I'm trying to help them answer these questions with respect to climate change and these impending storm episodic storm events and trying to help the stakeholders and managers create better management strategies, create mitigation efforts during big storms and just for them to better understand how these microbes who are at the base of the ecosystem affect the fish that they produce, the quality and the quantity. And so my research really helps understanding our environments and the products we can produce. That was excellent. One thing I love about listening to LVA's speeches is how much I learned. And we've got scientists at NCAR who do work in similar areas. And I still feel like, wow, that was a really good explanation. Yeah, thank you. Okay. So this is aimed at you. You're all scientists that are doing similar things and trying to interest you in the particular science I'm doing. So I'm Christopher Klein, a postdoc currently at the University of New Hampshire, and I'm trying to understand exactly the flow of energy in a system that I think we're all interested in. That is the heliosphere. It's a word that we're using to describe not necessarily the earth, not necessarily astronomical objects, but things we can send a probe to and actually measure in situ. So the sun is very hot. It's a plasma. Plasmas are interesting in and of themselves because they have not only are susceptible to magnetic and electric fields, but self-consistently generate them. They're very rare on earth, but they're very common in the visible universe. And so it's important to understand fundamental processes, and to send them. The fundamental process that I'm trying to understand is exactly how the solar wind, which is a diffuse plasma, is accelerated from the sun's surface and leads to the creation of space weather. So space weather is just like weather on earth, except it's weather that occurs within our heliosphere. And so NASA in 2018 is going to be sending Solar Pro Plus, a mission within about 4 million miles of the sun's surface, to measure this novel plasma environment. And we have decades of theories preparing for, you know, making predictions for exactly how the solar wind is accelerated off the sun's surface, but we, they're conflicting. They're, they make different predictions. And so I'm working on taking those theories and saying if theory A is correct. If this type of wave particle interaction is indeed leading to the energization of the solar wind, this is, this is what probe should see. But if it's in said reconnection or another process, this is indeed instead what probe should see. So we're preparing for that launch, we're making predictions now, and we're hoping that once probe is up there, we're going to be able to differentiate between these different processes and improve our ability to understand the system in which the earth is embedded and improve our forecasts for this environment that we all live in. That was excellent. Thank you. So I'm going to let you guys keep this, because you know what I'd like to do is actually have these guys talk about what, what you thought was tricky about this. I thought you both of you did a great job of making society relevant. I mean, and David's right. I mean, it was just, it was really fascinating, especially the astrophysics. I'm always amazed at when an astrophysicist can explain the comprehensible way, what he or she is doing. But so, and I don't know if you want to start off, but how did you tell me about the challenges that you guys, that you found as you were, as you were coming up with your elevator speech? So one of the challenges I always find is, is I kind of bridge to world. I bridge this very cultural Hawaiian world and the scientific world and the language we use is not similar at all. It's kind of even one step further than the lay world. And so one of the challenges I faced even speaking to you guys is, I know how to speak to my community, but it wouldn't have been accessible to all of you. And so I was trying to create this speech that was, didn't use the Hawaiian words and jargon so that you could understand. So I think the language for me is always the most challenging and figuring out what, how it's accessible to somebody else. You did a good job of it. It was really comprehensive and comprehensible. I, and I definitely second that it's, it's the, the language issue is a difficult one, right? If I come up to a person and say plasma, do they understand exactly what I'm saying there? And if they do, I don't need to take 15 seconds to say this is an ionized gas. If they don't, then it's, I need to take a step back and do that. The other thing that was more difficult for me is I, I do focus on fundamental processes rather than just the actual societal impact. But people here don't care that I can do a contour integral and go through 15 pages of math. They care about how will that be plugged into a model eventually. And so taking a step back from, you know, doing the really nasty math and, and saying why is this important, I think is useful because it's also important for grant writing and paper writing and everything else that we do in the communication. So that's great. Thank you. Yeah. So we're, we've got like another minute or two. That's okay. Any, maybe one or two questions. And then Rachel and I will also be around during lunch. If you want to share challenges, I mean, I think that's the most interesting thing, just to see really where people had experienced difficulties or go ahead. Thanks to both of you. That was very brave. Is it, is it okay if it's not a question about elevator speeches? Yeah. Yeah. Which were great. I'm interested in knowing how you can make sure that the message that you send out an interview, which is not necessarily something you can prepare completely ahead of ahead of time is really in line with the message that your institution wants to get out. Okay, that's a great question. I think the easiest, the simplest answer I can give you is to talk with your communications office at your institution and, and share that concern with them. I mean, in general, scientific institutions are going to be supportive of, you know, kind of free and open discussion of the science. Some of them are going to be, you know, have some constraints around, say, political statements or that kind of thing. But I think as long as you stick to your research, that that should be fine. But again, I think talking with your media shop would be would be the best idea. One, one general thing I'll add to that is you will be asked in the course of the interview something that you may not have expertise in. And it's fine to say, I don't have expert, I can't talk about that. I'm not expert in that. That's totally fine to say that you don't know something. Any final question before we break for lunch? I feel like I'm between people and food. Okay, program officers. And you gave the suggestion to keep them updated. And, and this is a great suggestion. I mean, I mean, just thinking about it, I want to do it. But let's say that, I mean, let's say you're a program officer, and you have lots and lots, lots of scientists to manage. And let's say that, I mean, I have intermediates results, I don't have the end results that you can, you know, media. I mean, how does it work? Do I just come to you and say, Hey, I would like to talk to you about science or hey, I would like to keep you updated or I mean, and then just give out my intermediate results or Okay, you know, I think it's a judgment call. It's a little bit of a balance. On the one hand, program officers do want to hear from you. On the other hand, they are busy. And they want to hear from you, but they don't want to hear too much from you. So I would, I would kind of calibrate it. I think, ideally, sort of checking in with them at the onset, either if you're in Washington or an in person, or maybe just saying up a brief call with them and give them a sense of that of what you're working on. And then maybe waiting until your results are final. Obviously, if the program officer is saying to you, that's fascinating, keep me posted even when you have intermediate results, I'd like to know about it. That's a different thing. But in general, in that situation, I would probably, you know, wait till you've got some results. Does that Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm not this is a little outside my expertise. Yeah, so I would say anytime that you there's some sort of publication, or if there's some sort of something in the news media, send us that. If it's intermediate, sometimes a good thing to do is before AGU or other professional conferences, email your program officer and just ask them if they're going to be at the meeting and tell them the time, the room of either your poster or your talk, so that they kind of know that. And then because there's a lot of intermediate results that get presented there, and it gives them an opportunity to come and talk to you then and see what you're presenting. And believe me, I know from an AGU trying to myself find where all of my PIs are presenting or because I do research experiences for undergrads trying to find all the REU students that went through is really hard. But when the PIs email me, and they're like, Oh, here's all of my list of all my REU students that are presenting, then I just put in my calendar and I can, I can find them. So I think that's the best thing for intermediate. If you're going to a conference is a good time to see your program officer is going to be there and just tell them when your poster or your talk is. Thank you. So we are now out of time. And I think we'll be breaking for lunch, but we'll be around during lunch. If you have questions and our email addresses are there. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel and David. I thought it was great. Thank you very much. And so yes, we're breaking for lunch. We have an hour. And we'll just know. But we'll meet back in here for a great presentation on the art of teaching. But yeah, take a break.