 Welcome back to day three of PDAC with Robin Birchell of Guiani. How are you sir? Yeah good this morning thank you. You're a recent addition to the company I understand. That's right I joined the company at the back end of last year and just before we did a small financing. You raised two million dollars? Yeah just a little bit more than two million. We also took in some cash. We have some holdings, liquid holdings in some other companies. We sold a little bit of that at the same time. Before joining Guiani you were part of another management team that took a project through to mine production and now you've left that to do that hopefully the same thing here. Yeah that's definitely the plan. And our medal of choice? Look what we're really interested in here is manganese for the battery market so it's a little bit different than for the steel market and that's something that's taking a bit of education with people to explain. Why is it a different formulation, different size, different flake? Well the best way I can explain it is maybe to think about coal, you know you have thermal coal and coca coal. They're not interchangeable. Right. You have something similar in manganese, you have direct shipping ore that goes to the steel market and then you have high grade ore which can be turned into very high purity manganese flake that goes into the cathode for the batteries and these two things are not very interchangeable. And you have the EMM? Well so far the indications that we have are very high grade material that can be used to make EMM. So what's next then on the company development path? So right now we've been doing all our budgeting and planning for the field program. We've got our board meeting actually in a couple of days time where we will approve the budgets and go ahead with the drill program and some geophysics and then also we have a little bit of metallurgical testing that we're doing at the same time as well. Okay then drill program should be done by late summer? Yeah no we'll be a little bit early on that. I think the drilling program will be going through April so we'll start to have results in April and a few more in May. We have some material that's on-site right now so we'll have the drill results that will come directly from the drilling and then we'll be doing the metallurgical testing. We'll start the metallurgical testing very soon on the stockpile and then that testing will go a little bit into May and so we'll have a series of results in May and then in June we'll probably have the resource. Was this meant to be confirmatory drilling or resource definition? So this is resource definition but you have to remember that you know the overall scale of the deposit we have a pretty good idea of that. You know these are not very big deposits it's not like the for the steel market those are you know 40 50 million tons this is about this will be about 2 million tons and you've got to think about the economics of that which is that you know the the EMM material sells for about $2,000 a ton in the Chinese market right now and our costs you know rough numbers maybe 330 to produce that so we're making a margin maybe of 6 to 700 on 50,000 tons it's pretty good money. Good value for the shareholders so come on back when those drill results are out we'll follow up on that we'll help plan the next stage of the company's development. Yeah absolutely we'd love to come back and talk to you guys again. Thanks very much.