 Welcome once again to the breakfast on Plans TV Africa. Now let's take the conversation to Anambra State where there was a rumored emergency rule in Anambra, of course in the steps closer to the November 6th Governorship election. The Attorney General, Boubou Kamalami, was rumored to have made mention that there's possibility of a state of emergency in Anambra State. The governor of the state, William Vienna, was in the news this morning saying President Mahmoud Ubarri was not necessarily aware of those plans and that the Attorney General goofed. It's one of the headlines that we took this morning. We're going to speak with Nik Agoule, he's a public affairs analyst. Good morning. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. All right. Now of course, get into it. What are your views on the rumored emergency rule in Anambra State? Are you, you know, part of those who believe it is necessary, seeing the security challenges the Southeast has been experiencing? And of course, their elections coming soon. My reaction to the rumour is that it is a bad dream. A very bad dream for our democracy. And that dream should better not come to reality. First of all, when the Attorney General of Nigeria speaks of the state of emergency, which part of the country is in something or the other? Which should not be the case? Should those who have been charged with responsibility or running a democracy must allow the democracy to run? First of all, if the focus state of emergency is declared and supposedly the elections come in elections in Anambra, there's no hope. That is a big problem, because that's what we want. That's what the elections are about. So why do we expect the federal government of Nigeria, Shemti and Napa, to do anything possible to ensure that they're controlled? So I don't understand why the Attorney General is speaking of the state of emergency in a situation that is most likely to come to reality before the country's governorship is announced. And how do you expect that to happen? So my view is that this is a dream that is better not come to reality. Mr. Agulay, I'm going to play devil's advocate. What do you think the government should do? Or in what ways do you think that they can get around ensuring that people feel safe? Because in the last few weeks, I'm sure you know that people in the southeast haven't necessarily felt very safe. We've seen killings. We've seen attacks on security agencies and INEC offices. So how do you think the government can pull off a safe and secure Anambra in the build-up to the elections, maybe a couple of days before, during the elections and after? What resources do you think the Nigerian government can, you know, put together? It is natural. We have a president who is also the commander in chief of the armed forces of Nigeria. This president took the office to protest and defend the constitution of the federal Republic of Nigeria. And that constitution has two cabinet representatives. And also the provision of security and welfare for the citizens of Nigeria and number of cases. So what the government needs to do, you know, is provide technology very small to it in comparison to the state in Nigeria in terms of life. So we can defend the government and the Anambra state government jointly for creating each other, for vice security, so that Anambra is safe and secure. Let me tell you about the security of the government. Actually, let me tell you one thing. To understand that the security to catch up in Nigeria is too much price. It is actually too much price. Because if the security has spread across the country, and the government is having to deal with this security with cooperation from that all over the country, the police are also being priced. But it is an important event in a democratic journey, like bravunasipa election is opening in the state. It's a number. The federal government will deploy all of the security companies to Anambra. To police and Anambra. To deal with security, but at this bravunasipa election, we vote. What is happening is a war between China and the federal government for a state government. So they can all be won by support. Now, let me tell you one thing. The federal government needs to deploy intelligent security. Intelligent security is that we prevent this attack from happening. This attack will be needed in the boat before the people strike. That is a threat to the security. How can we be smooth in a state that is as slow as Anambra? Fisher, those who are perpetrating this info, even before they strike. And then the second thing is, why can't they strike? They are not in the way. How can they strike in a state that is as slow as Anambra? Where are the security forces in Japan? If we should have taken a possible action here, the sound is going to be heard. My son, how can the security be there to perform sporadically and get it? All right. It seems to be a challenge with the sound and the feed from Nika Guley this morning. Can you still hear me clearly, Mr. Guley? I can hear you. Yes, I can. You know it's not very clear. Okay, so let me tell you something. The point I want to tell you is that President Mubarak needs to be a new commander. A commander is the one that you work for. He's not his man. And we think that commission police brigade commanders commanders from all the community in two reasons. We have an attack on the perpetrator. And it was me, Mubarak, with the intelligence and it's the perpetrator who protected the job. They were not apprehending the perpetrator depending on the subject. The presentation is coming next. So those comments and the presentation begins to commissioners and commanders and I'm sure that they will never see the intelligence and the data to prevent this attack. And if this attack comes, the people will never get away. Okay. Also, if you can briefly also share your views on curtailing the activities of the IPOB not in a militarized way now, but what role do you think the government can also play in order to calm the IPOB down and these perpetrators of violence in the southeast? Yeah. Number one is round table. Number two is forced. So you have an idea like IPOB you discuss it with them hearing the so that you understand the agreement and then it's in your own position and if the activities are changed that you have to deal with it is better to deal with them rather than to an armed person. So that is important. So engage in a round table so that let them know that they are being helped. The citizens of Nigeria they have grievances against the state and the federal government is the federal number one and they should engage IPOB in a round table where they are having discussions to understand each other. That is one way. The second one is if IPOB will not listen if IPOB will not come to demand for this if IPOB demand are that they want the state of the empire which is constitutionally provided the only way to get the state of Biafra is to get a referendum into the constitution of Nigeria and from that if you're a random you can then get the state of Biafra if you're not going to put on them you still don't have to reason the federal government should be put on them if the federal government are not listening to IPOB in a state like Alhambra or even in the whole constitution if the federal government are going to put on them if you all be afraid because if an army is going to put on them it means our army is going to get it. I have an idea. I think we would have to wrap it up here it wasn't entirely seamless or clear but we thank you for joining us and of course I think we got a good part of the message that you had to put across. Thanks for your time as always and we wish you a beautiful weekend ahead. Thank you very much. Thank you. That's where we will be wrapping up the breakfast on Plus TV Africa this morning and this week we'll be back here again on Monday morning to of course have another week of the breakfast we wish you a very beautiful weekend ahead and of course my final message this morning is once again to remind everyone that elections have consequences regardless of how you see it and those consequences can last for either four years or eight long years and sometimes those eight long years a lot of people may not even survive and so it's a very very important decision to be made every time that Nigerians go to the polling booths it's a very important decision to be made because we have conversations concerning who takes over the leadership of the country every four every eight years including at the state level and the local government level elections have consequences I personally feel very bitter that there are certain people who do not care about that aspect because they feel and they know that they have certain things to gain by putting a particular person a particular government in power once again elections have consequences and those consequences could last as long as eight years I am Osau Kiye of Bama see you on Monday