 I hit start and see how this goes. And I think, let's see, I think once I see it stream, I can then hit R. This is what I believe to be the truth. All right, it's working. The stream's working. There it is. OK, stream is good. So now we'll do AlphaGeek radio, which will go to any tech news show, the new button, and show. OK. So now I believe we're live on both. Cool. Or is the word is actually pronounced both? But I put an L in there for some reason, both. And I don't know why I do that. It's just a bad habit of mine. If they work on. I'm just asking B Master to check on this end. Yeah, get some independent verification, as always. The IRC, I see YT is live, which is great. That is good. I'm going to assume that stands for YouTube and not or teasing us or something. Utees.com. Hope this peanut burn jelly lasts for the hour. That's what I eat for lunch. OK. I hope it does, too, dude. It's good, but it doesn't beat a roast beef sandwich. No. You ever had roast beef and peanut butter? I have. That does not sound right. Not, but it's good somehow. Somehow it worked. I've had peanut butter and fudge, but that's just not a cookie. Yeah, you're right to be skeptical, though. It shouldn't be good. It's like when I hear about love. So that's the thing in the states, the marshmallow thing. Oh, right. On bread, which makes no sense to me. The remaster says EGR says it's live, but no audio. Oh, well, let's see then. Let me go to EGR. I don't even know how to check AlphaGeek. AlphaGeekRadio.com. All right, so if I play channel two, not that. There we go. So player two, PTNS, audio. OK, let's see. If I hear anything. Yeah, it's not working. So that probably means Todd's new fancy way to hold. That's OK, because I've always got the old way. If it doesn't, no PTNS work. OK, we'll see what Todd says. If he comes back with Go the Other Way, we'll go the other way. Thanks for checking that, people in the chat. That is very helpful. Yes. It's a team effort. Patreons and creators alike. That's right. One big happy deal. It's like a potluck. Yep. Something like that. All right, so let's see. I'll ask him to do that. I'll stop presenting with my face, my head. They all see video, though, right? It picked up on Don't Love and all that. I mean, it did for me, but that was on YouTube. So just want to make sure. You see video. Anyone in the chat room see video? Vid is good, BioCal says, on Diamond Club. So audio is really our only thing. All right, Todd's replying to me now. Let's see what he says, and then we'll move on with our lives. OK, he says it will auto-live in about two minutes. So OK. Did you get new glasses, Jen? No, same ones I've had since Call for Help. Oh, wow. I've been very careful with them, because they're both different prescriptions, and it's a pain in the butt to get new ones, so. Oh, for each eye? Yeah. I think everyone in my eyes is the same way. But you should always get, you know what? I shouldn't talk. I need to go see an eye doctor. It's about to say you should always get your eyes checked. Mine are, yeah, I'm due for them. Mine are just for at the PC. I'm fine everywhere else. Whatever. Whatever. They have the opposite. I ended up having early, it's genetic, but I had an early cataract thing, and I had both eyes done. And I can see where they locked in my new lenses. I can see everything within computer range just fine. But if I go to a movie or drive or whatever, it's all glasses all the time. Frustrating. OK, he says it's working. Let me test it. But. Yeah, but that's not us. Who the heck is that? Really loud, too. SP, what do you have here, too? OK, OK, that's us. We're good. We're up. Awesome. Jane. What's this? Let's see. I will tell him thanks. I look like I have like two minutes. I'm going to quickly grab some water, so I'm going to be right back. Hang in there, everybody. Roger, entertain the troops. Yay, Jen. So everyone meets. Wait, everyone knows Jen, right? I've been around. I'm admiring your optimism in the background there. Yeah, you know who gave me that is Philip Allingham. We brought it in for a fresh gear. I don't know. They did toys back then. Because that was the first one. That was the first masterpiece one. And once we all got booted out, it's like, all right, we're just going to divvy up everything in the lab. It's like, all right, I'm taking this. I think he said, you're the only one that would appreciate this. It's like, you're right. I am the only one that would appreciate this. So for that guy to do it. There's justification. There's so many things that are like, what? I got to send this. That was the worst thing about getting, about closing up tech TV was you had to mail everything back. And it's just like, I don't remember their address. I mean, because you had to mail back like 50 things. Just find like, give me some bubble wrap. Put it in the box. Send it off. It's funny, because I had so many things that I reviewed for various outlets that I was ready to send back. And they're like, where are you from? Like Canada. It's like, oh, we don't want to pay for a return post. It's just, just keep it. I'm like, okay. I have a lot of very useless. Hey, connect your console to your PC and then to your TV stuff. It doesn't work. Yeah. AMD and Intel used to be like that, mainly because it's like, well, you've had the processor for like a year. So it doesn't really help us to send it back since it's old. It's like, okay, keep all your engineering samples that sort of work. Actually, they worked fine. But do we ever send anything back to Intel? I don't think so. Because when you're benchmarking and testing stuff, it's like, well, it's not like you can resell it since they're all lab samples. How's hockey season? Well, hockey's over. We had the provincials. We had a lot of injuries and we came in fifth. Fifth in the province is not a terrible thing. I should be happier about it, but we know we could have meddled. And that was disappointing. Did you, were you able to walk the next day after the game? I was, well, that's why I had physio today because of a slash to my hand. I can't, I can't carry stuff with it anymore. What did you do to it? I got slashed quite badly and couldn't grip for a while. So now I can grip, it just really hurts. Those big, meaty gloves. Yeah, but if somebody takes like a two-handed baseball swing at you, you're gonna feel it no matter how big your gloves are. Can they do that? That doesn't sound like it. It's a penalty, but they get two minutes and I've been hurt for two weeks. So it's not quite balanced. It's a dangerous hobby you have there. Yeah, well, summer season starts on Mother's Day. So it's like, hi, mom, here's breakfast, love you, bye, gonna get to the rink. So do you have to tape it up? Do you do it like Rocky? I taped it for Provincials. I haven't been taping it lately because I'm trying to make it stronger. Make it stronger, faster. Just be able to play video games again. I'm Street Fighter right here and I haven't been able to play for weeks just because I can't do the buttons without really feeling it. Yeah, without a good controller, I'm pretty crappy at Street Fighter. Like you can sort of use the Xbox One or Xbox 360 controller, but not really good. I've been, I tried playing, what was the new one? What's the Street Fighter 5? I tried going online and I got my rear end handed to me quite quickly. Yes, that is exactly what happens. It's like, I don't need to be in here. It's like, I don't understand it because it feels like you're playing a bot. It's like, some of those is like, what do you do? Just, were you just like playing this morning, noon, and night? Yes, pretty much. Fully, you can make a career out of it. I was in an extra long delay today. Just timed it, it's about a minute, 15 seconds. Thanks, Biocow. What happened? Oh no, Biocow was telling everyone in the chat room that the, the geek radio, the delay is a minute and 15 seconds. Oh, that seems long. It's because it's calling it from the video and then has to restream it back, I think. Oh, wow. Does it usually do that or is it not that slow, usually? Usually they're pretty well in sync, I think. Hmm, probably because we do them separate. Yeah. I don't think Todd was thinking of that. Well, that's good to know. So let me see, any, any questions? Feel free to chime in on any of the stories, Jen. Yes, please, feel free. Let's go through. Yeah, the big, what's your story on 20, oh wait. Biocow usually says it's about a 20, 30 second difference between the video and the, or an alpha geek radio. Oh, is that all? Wait, it's a minute and a half now? Yeah, a minute and 15. Yeah, that's not good. Hmm, I don't know if I could fix that. I'm doing the image. Oh, and then was there anything? So after the last messages of the day, there's a collision, I put one after one that says collision conference. I should probably highlight those. I don't know how to. Oh, right. Yeah, and I have that all queued. I don't like, folks behind the collision. Yeah, it's right there. Collision, collision. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You guys are hearing that okay, right? When I play stuff. You're hearing all that? Yes, I hear it. Oh, this is so exciting. I don't know why. Because we're hanging off the edge, man, this is a... Yeah, Tom is entrusted us with a lot. I hope he enjoys it. I hope he doesn't come back like at the end of... No, wait, at the end of risky business, he got everything back. Yeah, but I do hope he slides in on his socks and his underwear with a dress shirt on, like Tom Cruise with sunglasses on. Well, if he does, I hope it's boxers. Yeah, but yeah, I do too. So why'd he tie these? Different era, different time. I agree with you. I don't even think they make, do they still make whitey-datties? Sure, oh yeah. I wear the boxer, I wear the boxer briefs as well as just boxers. Good. Probably too much information. It's the right thing though, but so I can tell you that. I mean, he texts my wife real quick. Sorry again. No worries. Yeah, sorry to give you Rogers with a visual of him in his boxer. Ah. Eh, whatever, it's nothing my wife hasn't seen yet. She's not that ready. Have you ever been ridiculed for before? Eh, is that it? That's all you're worried about? Let's see, let's let her know I'm down here. So yeah, NX, NX, NX. It has to be a single game console that you can take. Like it's a handheld unit that's kind of like the Nvidia shield that you plug into your TV. Oh, I have all kinds of theories. I am sure the gen does too and I'll bet we'll have things to say on that topic. It's my thinking. All right, looks like we're about straight up to 30. Cool. Let me hide myself. Where are you in Canada right now? What's the time zone you in? Eastern Standard, it is about 4.30. Okay. Roger, we wanna try to be within the 40 minute range or so. Yes, so around 2.10. Okay. It's like the 10, 2.10, 2.15. All right. Is that okay with you, Jen? Oh, I'm good for her whenever. Cool. She's so nice, we should have her do it with me when Tom's gone all the time. You know what, you were like the perfect, like we're the spokesperson for your country. You're polite, conscientious. Don't say anything odd or... We can talk about why they removed Sari from Hearthstone in this latest patch. We think it's because of the Canadians. It's like nerfing the Canadians a little bit. There's no more Sari in there, just a little bit weird. Maybe that'll come up in the show, maybe. That'll be great. Yeah. Good fodder. Okay. I'm gonna go ahead and go. It's 2.30, let's do this. You guys ready, everyone good? All good. Comfy. All right. Let's do this. Roger goes away, I hit the thing. Chatroom viewers, listeners, thank you all for being here. And it all begins in three, two, one. Breaking news, apparently the hot new trend among the cool kids is to support the Daily Tech News Show. Don't you want to be one of the cool kids? Give in to peer pressure today by visiting dailytechnewshow.com slash the board. It is the Daily Tech News Show. Oh yeah, baby. Tom's out here at Scott Johnson. I am always here. It's Wednesday, April 27th, 2016. Well, at least I'm here on Wednesdays. And filling in for Tom Merritt while he is in the far off land of LA. No, I don't know where he is. He's somewhere no one's told me. I have no idea, but I know I'm happy to be here filling his shoes, keeping his seat warm with a guest. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show. Jen Cutter, she is a producer. She worked on Call for Help in Canada a long time ago with Leo. And you know her from all sorts of other things. Has some great stuff upcoming. And we are so happy to have you here. Jen, welcome to the show. Thank you, it's great to be back. It's so much fun last time. Good, I hope today is reminiscent of that fun and not weird. Because not having Tom here is a little weird, as listeners and viewers can attest. But I think we're up to the task, you and I. Both big fans of video games. Turns out today's main topic is game related. We're going to talk a little bit about a favorite company of mine. That would be Blizzard Entertainment and how they're able to do what they do with the fans that they have. And many other things. We've got some interesting stuff from Nintendo today. We're going to talk a little bit about E3 and why it may not be as relevant as it used to be. So thanks for being on this journey with me. It's going to be good. Let's do it. All right, here come the headlines, everybody. Right here. Oh, let's start with, oh, I don't know, the FBI. The Federal Bureau of Investigation disclosed a security flaw affecting iPhone and Macs on April 14th under the vulnerability equities process. Apple told Reuters yesterday. So this just was announced or just told or so that we could hear about it. The vulnerability equates or excuse me, vulnerability equities process is a White House policy to determine when a security vulnerability is shared with the affected companies or withheld for national security reasons. According to Macworld, the vulnerability was one that Apple already knew about. The FBI will not submit the hack used to gain in the iPhone and get into the iPhone for the San Bernardino terrorism case because the agency does not know what the methods were that were used. This doesn't seem to be one initiative that leaves even when they figured out a way to get into the phone and even when there's a million other things to talk about in the world of tech, the security thing still looms large, Jen. I assume that you've been following this a bit as well. Any hot takes on latest from the FBI? I can't read another thank piece. I just can't. Everyone's put in their two cents and I have to wait and see and let the smarter lawyer people figure it all out. Yeah, and hopefully cooler heads prevail. Hopefully they always are including the voices of those who really understand the technology so that somewhere down the road we end up with something that's equitable and works for everybody and maintain security while not hammering us too bad on our privacy or our ability to keep our stuff safe. I don't think this is the end of it, probably not even for a day. So look forward to that tomorrow on the Daily Tech News Show. Apple stock dropped as much as 8.3% to $95.68 early this morning after yesterday's second quarter earnings call. Bloomberg report sales slid 13% from 58 billion a year before to 50.6 billion. I'll still take it. And a 16% fall in iPhone sales. They're calling it peak iPhone is the word I'm hearing a lot today. Net income dropped to 10.5 billion. The company said it would increase its share, repurchase program to 175 billion and increase its quarterly dividend to 57 cents from 52 cents. First time in a very long time, they're posting that things aren't all rosy necessarily in Cupertino. It's good to be honest. That's one way of looking at it, I suppose. It's a little weird though, right? They have so many quarters in a row for so many years and have them always be up. I mean, the stock price goes up and down depending on the whims of investors all the time. But you could always almost count on these reports being in the positive doing better than they thought they were going to do or exceeding expectations, if not in small ways in large ways, depending on when you check these reports. But this is the first time in a long time where it's starting to look like, hmm, you're starting to level off a little bit there, Apple, what are you gonna do next to try to maintain this? And I've always said, I don't know how you maintain it. Yeah, you can't grow forever. I have a five, I think, and I'm going to use it until it dies because there's no real reason for me to upgrade. If I wanted to shoot more stuff on my phone, I'd absolutely buy a new one, but I have a real camera, so I'm pretty okay with that. And I think you're not alone. We're getting to the point where, you know, upgrades to new phones and what they represent in terms of their upgrade cycle are less and less compelling. And contracts, always the cell phone contracts. You get locked in. Nobody wants to pay the full price for the phone here. Yeah, that's true. Plus you guys have, I always have it in my head that Canadians have weird contracts. Even more weird than ours are pretty weird. So I don't know all the inner workings of that stuff, but I'm guessing that plays a role as well. Yeah, it's not fun. We complain about Rogers and Bell as opposed to Verizon and AT&T and that kind of stuff. Well, take that, Rogers. Y'all who has announced its reach to deal with activist investor, Starbound Value, according to TechCrunch, four new board members are being added, including Starbound CEO, Jeff Smith, plus three of his director nominees, Tor R. Brom from the Deutsche Bank, Eddie W. Hartenstein from Tribune Company, and Richard S. Hill, CEO of Patentrol Company, to Sara Technologies. We want to make sure we point out that they're our Patentrol Company. Two current Yahoo board members won't seek re-election. Smith will also get a seat on the committee forum to lead the auction process. Starboard Value recently wrote a letter calling for the current Yahoo board to be replaced. I don't know what's to happen at Yahoo, what the future holds, but Jen, Yahoo, everything feels like something's wrong with Yahoo. Yahoo is an interesting company. I don't know where their main profits are coming from. I do know that they started an eSports website, which has been nice to find more coverage there and on ESPN and everywhere else on Earth right now. But as to their main business, I have no idea. It's hard to see who we are, isn't it? Can you look at Yahoo today and tell me that you see a future that isn't fraught with at least more problems, and if not a complete sell-off and a complete restructuring? Are they the AOL of our time? Meaning that their relevance has slipped away and it's too late, now they just need to become a name that gets applied to something else, like Atari, as an example, or is there more life in them? I don't know. I don't know, I keep thinking I'm gonna end up putting them in a category with Ulta Vista. It's like, hey, you remember those guys? Yeah, and they're just gonna leave Flickr and Tumblr and all these poor acquisitions in the dirt behind them as they struggle to find new ways of being relevant as well. So yeah, it's a weird time for those guys and it sounds like the board is knocking at the door. Intel wants to replace the venerable 3.5 inch audio jack with a USB-C connector. I think Apple might like that also. Anyway, if the numbers are to be believed. According to a company proposal shared with Shenzhen Developer Forum, been to Shenzhen, not when they had USB-C. Anyway, and excuse me, Anantek highlighted the advantages of ditching the analog audio jack with USB-C digital connectors instead. This would include the ability to add health monitoring functionality to earbuds for fitness trackers, removing the D to A converter to create space on smartphone circuit boards. Chinese company, Li Eko, recently launched three smartphones without headphone jacks. There may be some, you know, there's probably about 20 arguments for this change and I've said the entire time, we're not gonna be using 3.5 inch analog jacks for the rest of our existence. Human beings will move to another standard, whether it be wireless or some other wired solution. But in the meantime, I don't see what's so wrong about at least approaching the idea that there's a better connected cable standard that we could use that would give us more capabilities, more data interaction, perhaps better sound, I don't know, juries out on that. But why not move to a digital standard and get away from analog finally, Jen? Like my gut reaction has always been like you'll take it from my cold dead hands, all of my really expensive headphones use 3.5. But at some point we're gonna have to make that switch and it's gonna be painful. Like when Microsoft, to tie it back to gaming, of course, announced that initially Xbox One was gonna be all download, no disks, people freaked and they had to go back on that. No, it's- We'll see how this goes. If this actually happens, it does mean that people who just bought their $300, $400 new fancy set of Bose or Beats or whatever headphones they bought are going to have to reassess what they're gonna do or they're gonna have to have some sort of middleware adapter in the middle of the thing that kind of makes the whole point moot just adds another chunk of dangle on your cable. Like there is going to be, here's how I see this is gonna happen. If this is truly a better way to go, it's gonna be an ugly transition and it's gonna take a while and people are not gonna be happy about it. Like all cable standards, it's a huge pain in the butt. This one probably more so than any because it's about your personal devices, about your personal audio experience. It's different than, oh, my computer doesn't use serial anymore, parallel is the way to go or goodbye SCSI, hello IDE or whatever. Those things seem like big evolutionary, revolutionary steps and you bite the bullet and go. This is different though. This is asking my daughter to change the way she listens to music. It's asking me to change the way I use it when I work out. Like it's a whole different ask. Yes, it will change the size of the phones. Like once you can make them that kind of crazy thin. It'll be interesting to see what actually changes or whether we're just gonna be using rectangles forever. Yeah, let's see if they snap in our pockets. I'm looking forward to that. Speaking of video games, Nintendo officially announced March 2017. That's less than a year away folks as the launch for the Nintendo NX. That is the code name for it anyway. A gaming console they have previously not commented on or even admitted was real up to this point. There are a few things floating around like patent applications and things that led people to believe that this was all happening although a lot of that stuff is kind of hokey. It is and it is coming in less than a year during their earnings report today. So this is pretty breaking. They commented on the new device saying, quote, for our dedicated video game platform business, Nintendo is currently developing a gaming platform code name NX with a brand new concept. They did not elaborate on what that quote new concept unquote is in order they share any details about the hardware plans. But in somewhat expected news, this isn't all that big of a shock to many of us paying attention to this and a lot of us predicted this but the next Legend of Zelda title originally slated for the Wii U has been delayed again. We were supposed to have it last holiday season if people remember correctly. Some had suggested, ooh, is this delay because they want to tack it onto a new platform. The answer is absolutely yes. It will surface on both Wii U and NX console, whatever it ends up being called. Not unlike the GameCube Wii crossover we saw with the Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess. So they're doing the exact same thing again. It is no question that a Zelda game is a system seller and they also confirmed that it will be the only playable Nintendo game at E3 this year which leads me to want to talk about some of that E3 stuff a bit. But what's your general take on this whole NX thing and the fact that we're gonna have it in less than a year and they're not even gonna show this console at E3 this year? I think it's kind of amazing that companies in general have placed less importance on E3 which obviously we will circle back to later. Though part of me hopes that they do what they do with the Nintendo DS where they announced it and then said, and you can play it right now and everybody freaked out. So that would be pretty amazing, very unlikely. Do you think that if they did, I mean the opportunity at E3 has always been, look we're gonna be able to show people in the industry who are interested in buying our products. For example, some big wig purchaser at Walmart is gonna be there. So we want them to have hands on with our new consoles and then we also want all of these gaming magazines to be there and they're gonna get hands on. But the general public, you're not allowed into this thing. Nintendo has a better chance and probably a better, we'll make a bigger splash if they give that kind of hands-on experience to somebody say at PAX or some other more fan-oriented general admission type conference, even something like Comic-Con where games have got a place there but certainly they could do a little bit more with EA pulling out completely and not having any sort of presence on the floor at E3 this year. Nintendo pulling out a couple of years ago and still not participating in the whole press conference from the stage events that they've traditionally held. It's looking more and more like E3, either needs to change its focus and not be just an industry conference with press but something either much more than that or go away completely. What do you think about that? Everybody's running their own events now. You can control the message, you're not having to compete. I don't know, you've been on the floor at E3, right? Okay, so you remember the competing sound stages and crazy noise and having to fight through mobs of people which have been less since they've been a lot more stringent about who actually counts as press and keeping some of the buyers and just regular clerks off the floor. It was not the best environment to do work in and lately it's been a bit better about that but that's not, the gaming media doesn't have the reach that the mainstream media does these days and that's who they've got a court now because everyone plays games on everything, on their phone, on their tablet. It's more than just game consoles now. Yeah, and it's also more than just mainstream media. It's, well, what it is, is it's internet media becoming mainstream. They could do more with a YouTube channel right now than they could do with two weeks on the floor at some E3 conference or at the Tokyo Game Show. They will have a bigger reach, a broader audience, people who would never be able to go in the first place. There's nothing quite like getting hands on with this stuff so there is something to be said for when they do Nintendo tours or when there's other opportunities to show the hardware off or to show off the games but it does seem like Nintendo and other companies are playing in their flag a little bit in the sand and saying, all right, we're just, we're gonna slowly eek our way out of this thing the way that Microsoft did with CES and Blizzard does with E3 is a good example. We'll talk about them in a minute and others have done with their conferences, Apple with WWDC or not WWDC, CES as well. They all just kind of said, well, go off and do our own thing I think Nintendo's gonna try to jumpstart that with this new release so we'll see how it goes. Everybody go into E3, you'll at least have a new Zelda game. Nintendo really does have to kind of knock it out of the park with NX because Wii U was not a profitable venture for them and I'd love to see them stick around in some capacity whether it's consoles or just games so my fingers are crossed for them. Yeah, I don't want it. Do you want to live in a world without Nintendo? I don't. That doesn't sound good to me at all. I would like Nintendo, whatever form they take, if they're making games for every other platform fine, if it's their own platform fine, but I need them to exist, there's something special about them. There'd be a real loss to the industry and to the entertainment medium of video games if they were gone. So let's not have any of that and let's hope NX is something rad and we can all get behind it. Wall Street Journal reports that according to people familiar with the matter at the FTC, they're expanding their investigation into Android over alleged abuse of its market position. The commission's investigation was prompted by complaints from app developers and other firms that free Android mobile software gives Google an unfair advantage over its competitors. The FTC and Google have declined to comment on the investigation. The EU has an antitrust investigation focusing on the Google Play Store. Seems like more and more of these days Google's fighting something on some front regarding Android's proliferation of the market. And I don't know what that ultimately means except that in Europe it seems a lot harder than here for them. Yeah, I used to have an Android phone before I had this particular iPhone and it was impossible to use in Canada because Rogers had their custom OS on top of it and then decided you only got like 0.3 updates and that was it. And then I couldn't use the store, I couldn't, all of my apps were stuck. If I jail broke it, they disabled my data in 911, which was super legal and then they bought me this iPhone. Wow, all right, well. That's an edge case, I know. It's gotten better in Canada since then. You can buy an Android and not have it be totally hosed. Sure, as mature as smartphones have gotten though, we're not out of the woods yet, is what it sounds like to me. Speaking of Google and hot water, Getty Images isn't really that happy about how Google search works. Google image search to be specific. It displays copyrighted full screen, high resolution photos as many of you probably already know this, which includes some Getty Images, a complaint filed with the European Antitrust Commission. They say that Google in this complaint is digging third party sites and resources and promoting piracy, basically scraping the good stuff off and putting it in their results. Piracy they say is hurting Getty Images and their business. In the complaint it filed with the European Union's Antitrust Commission and accused Google of scraping these images from these sources. They say once people have already seen the pictures through the Google image search, there is quote, very little impetus to view the image on the original sources site, that being Getty Images. Lawyers for Getty, this lawyer specifically named Yoko Miyadishara, I think is how you say it, said in a statement Getty Image represents over 200,000 photojournalist content creators and artists around the world who rely on us to protect their ability to be compensated for their work. Google's behavior is adversely affecting not only our contributors, but the lives and livelihoods of artists around the world, present and future. Unquote. So hardcore stance from Getty Images. You think they'll get far with this? Google just managed to win the library one, didn't they? The book with all the books and they were allowed to show specific pages even when those pages happened to be exactly what the person was searching for. That's right. It was a few years ago, I wonder if that as established case law would work in this case. Like the one big difference is in the book's case anyway, they made a pretty strong argument about archival needs and for the greater good sort of stuff. It feels like here they have less of that argument because really what they're doing is showing results for stuff that you would otherwise have to go buy there. Some sites battle this with all sorts of like JavaScript methods that'll make it so you can't download the image there. You have to go to the website. Others are just simply putting auto-generated watermarks on their images. So when they show up in Google Images, you may get the image you're looking for but it's gonna be real hard to Photoshop all that watermark out of it to use the thing. But moreover, I think their point that Google is inadvertently probably or not intentionally but they are kind of helping people pirate images. I think it's a fair case to be made. I mean as much as I need it and appreciate it and love Google Image Search for a lot of the stuff I do when I need reference photos or whatever for different art projects, it's great. It's the greatest thing in the world, it's changed my life. But if I'm really looking at it, it's kind of made it a whole lot easier for me to get to images and things that I couldn't otherwise get to and if I'm starting to use those in ways that is against the term of service of the original creator of the art or of the image, like putting out unarticles without paying for it or whatever, they have a point. And people think Google, a search in Google means it's free, right? Yeah, because when you're searching, the attribution part is like this tiny little thing in the upper right-hand side, you can see what their usage rights are and that probably needs to be more prominent. Just love Google Image Search for the reverse search. When I find a cool picture, I can find out who took the picture, which is so great. Well, we hope Getty Images gets their man. You can now pay your Netflix bill with Google Play account or with your Google Play account. Coming soon, subscribe for Netflix, Google Play billing, new permission required is now listed under what's new in the Netflix app entry on the Google Store. Netflix told Variety that the rollout will take place over the next several weeks and that segment of users will be able to go to the Google Play Store and pay for Netflix because Google doesn't demand a sort of 70-30 style subscription rate the way that Apple does with the App Store. This makes perfect sense and I think people will be happy to have that. The RAP reports Amazon and other news wants to get up in your face with VR content of their own. Everybody's getting on the VR bandwagon and now Amazon wants a piece of that. Amazon sent its Hollywood arm of the company to meet with VR companies and organizations pushing VR content to various devices. This is all according to multiple people familiar with the matter. While talks appear to be in very early stages, Amazon is meeting with a bunch of Amazon regulars. These are studios they currently work with working on original programming like for example, Transparent. Don't know what that, I don't know what a Transparent VR experience will look like but probably not based on that is my thinking. An Amazon job posting for VR manager also happened in March and this also seems to show the company is interested in getting into the game. Jury's still out whether or not Amazon will ever get into the hardware business of VR. I have a feeling they might eventually but it seems they're probably right now at least more interested in the content creation of things at this stage. Is it exciting to think that we get some original VR content from Jeff Bezos and company? No, we were just talking about the decline of E3 and those kind of shows but this is one of those things that you really need hands on experience before you put that kind of money down. Yeah, it's true. But in the problem with an E3 showing of a VR helmet I've said this since day one. You're all getting pink eye, man. Oh yeah, it's going around game stops right now I think in the States to try out different things and I'm not going. Not a chance, there's no way. I don't even go to 3D movies for a similar reason. I know I'm a little picky about this but I don't like the idea of putting on three other people's used helmet on my head and to experience it first hand but it's the only way to know if VRs are gonna be your thing or not but it does bring up this interesting point. If everybody's creating VR content what if the future of E3 is put on an Oculus Rift or a HTC Vive or whatever portable solution you have for VR, what if it's you walking around a virtual E3? What if it's you getting to partake in virtualized games via this interface? Like I wouldn't put it past this technology to support something like that in the next decade maybe not right away but the idea of it being an interactive way to show off people's wares. I mean try to show off some VR in VR that's a little weird but if you're saying we've got this great new indie title and you could virtualize that game in that world and have you sort of walk up to a console kiosk and play it and talk to maybe even a live person on some other end of the country talking to you these are the things I wanna see VR do not just cause I don't like getting up a lot but bring it to my house. Yep I wanna see like I told myself I was not gonna buy any of these first generation VR helmets cause you know they're going to get so much better in the future but then Sony showed that 100 foot robot golf thing and I kinda want that. I'm all into that one too. Now another Jay Martin in our subreddit submitted this show the story about the distracted German smartphone users and how they now can cross the street with a little more confidence thanks to an interesting new pilot program authorities in the city of Augsburg about 35 miles outside of Munich have embedded rows of LEDs into the street pavement and you get this little red flash of light when you're not supposed to cross so if you're looking down at your phone you're staring you're not paying attention you cut your headphones in listen to a podcast like this one the light will blink if you're not to go and it's pretty obvious and out there like you see it and you're not gonna you're not gonna be able to ignore it if you're of course if you're sighted and if there's no light it's okay to go. German television station NTV says it became necessary to try this new idea after a 15 year old girl who was staring down at her smartphone had her headphones on was killed when she stepped in front of a or stepped off of a tram and was hit. The quote here is we'll see how this is received and new traffic lights create a very different kind of attention. Unquote. It'd be interesting to see if this what this, I mean I want to watch this and see how it goes and then maybe see if it's something that could apply elsewhere but I'm also kind of bothered by the idea that we're getting to a point where we need a light on the ground to tell us not to do something. It feels like solving the wrong problem. Like I. How would you, how would you think so instead? I don't know, like I'm impressed by the pilot project and the ingenuity of it. I don't know if that's feasible on the grand scale of every place that everybody walks worldwide. I think people should just check before crossing the street. Wait a minute, that is so practical and normal. I don't know what to make. Cost effective. That's a good point. You don't need to install a bunch of LEDs in your ground. Final news bit here, we've got a Facebook story. They reached 1.65 billion monthly users on surpassed estimates in its quarter one 2016 earnings report talking about a company who surpassed their estimates. They had 5.38 billion in revenue and 77 cents earnings per share. That's pretty dang good. Facebook share price climbed over 8% in the moments after earnings were announced reaching over $117 in after-hours trading. Revenue was up 52% year over year with 1.5 billion in profit in quarter one. Average revenue per user was up 32% year over year as well. Very impressive. They continued to do stuff that in 2005 I predicted we would never see and yet here they are speaking of VR and everything else they're up to. So I guess good job, those guys. I do find it's a little bit weird that Mark Zuckerberg still only has 30 million followers on his Facebook account for a site that has 1.5 billion users. I think that's a little weird. That's a small number compared to how many people are there. Well, I have a Facebook. I don't use it. Everything is locked down but I'm technically a user because I have one. So active users might be a more telling statistic. It's interesting to watch them continue to grow and I don't know what's next for Facebook but I've been wrong about them every step of the way. So don't listen to me if I ever give you advice about what Facebook's gonna do. Do wanna thank everybody who submitted things to the subreddit, submit stories and vote for them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Huge thanks to you guys for doing that and that is a look at the headlines. Our main discussion story is a little bit about Blizzard but also gaming in general and just the sort of, I don't know, the world it is and the world it's becoming pretty rapidly in the face of instant information all the time, how we consume video games, the companies that make the games becoming more than just the people who make them and more of a, I don't know, a place for us to be a little cultish about to get excited about and sort of follow everything they do. Blizzard's a really great example of this and they just recently sold out of tickets for their BlizzCon this year, BlizzCon 2016, which happens in November. I'll be going again through that fourth time, fourth or fifth and always a good time when I go there. How fast did they sell out this year? Oh it was like seconds, like people got in and I know a lot of people that were kind of grouping their efforts so they would all get online at the same time, they're all over Skype so they're all communicating and their goal is just to get enough tickets somehow between them all that they will all be able to just have one of the tickets. And most people from day one got hosed on that deal, they lost the chance to get enough tickets for everybody or one person got one but not enough for what he was trying to get or whatever. In the case of me where they consider me press, I usually get a press bad, but I don't know about it until like the week before so it was always this pins and needles thing with like already reserved flights and hotels and like it's all a little crazy but you have to stand back sometimes and wonder why? What is it that drives their particular fan base to want to wrestle over these tickets, to be the first one in line to play their games, to clamor to hear the news first, to find out about leaks and explore them as much as we can. What is it that Blizzard has done to earn that kind of fandom that other big publishers and game makers don't have even their parent company Activision doesn't really have but somehow Blizzard has that. Do you have a theory on why that is first of all? Why do you think a company like Blizzard is it just purely great games and that's as simple as that or is there more to it than that? I feel that polish is a huge part of it. Like from day one Diablo, their cinematics were always a cut above everything else available at the time and they keep managing to push that further and further out. Now there's a Warcraft movie which will be interesting to see. So Overwatch, coming out eventually, there are pro teams for a game that isn't even out yet and there have been tournaments and people winning money and that's a little crazy to me. Their biggest misstep to me in the last couple of years was probably Diablo 3 launching with real money trading but they've even managed to go back and fix that and I'm probably gonna buy the game at some point and go through it now. Yeah, they actually went back, this is crazy, in 2012 they released that game. I think with good intentions, I think they had the right intentions with it but it really was not a good idea. They as much admitted that on camera and said, yep, it was a goof, we're not happy with it, we're A, taking it out and B, we're adding a bunch of new things and they have turned what was a good game but disappointing for what we expect from Blizzard into one of the best games I've played in five years. Like Diablo 3's current state is an incredible game. If you like Luke Grimes or any kind of sort of action RPGs at all it is still kind of the mothership and there are many sort of pretenders to that crown but they continue to just innovate, innovate, innovate. They don't always invent, they're not really inventors, I would call them more refiners. They tend to take good concepts like an MMO, they look at EverQuest back in 2000, whatever it was, 2001 and say we should make a game. We're all playing that thing late at night at the office so why don't we make a version of this that we would really wanna play and they fundamentally change the MMO market forever. Here we are 11 years later, things aren't as popular in the MMO spaces they used to be but they're still the number one dog, like by a huge margin. So they tend to take these things that kind of work, Overwatch is an example of taking shooter, shooter concepts that already sort of work, team-based shooters from the past, even as far back as Action Quake and the original Team Fortress mod for certainly Team Fortress 2 in its current state. They take these games and they say, all right, we're gonna make a shooter that just blows all this stuff out of the water but is still true to those concepts that we loved so much and then we're gonna refine it, refine it, refine it, polish it, polish it and even in its alpha and beta stages, that game was more of a release product than half the other publishers ever put out. I played the beta since day one, I'm super sad the beta's gone although it kicks up again in another week and then we get the full game on the 24th of May and they're also a different company in that way and I did wanna mention this. Blizzard went from, we're the World of Warcraft company and we're only working on that and then, well, we're sort of working on Starcraft 2 and then eventually we're kinda working on Diablo 3 but really we're just still the big wow company. They've had to shift gears because as tastes have changed and gamers have changed and MOBAs have taken on a new life, they've had to kind of scramble and now a company used to be shocking to see anything more than one game being worked on now has a stable of six, maybe more that we don't know about yet, games and production and in full release that people are playing all the time with Overwatch about to join the crowd but between that and Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, Warcraft still going strong with a new expansion this year, like they're a little weird, they're not like any other company in the business that I can think of and... I guess the closest would be like Nintendo and Sega, they get together and they do Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games. But then for Heroes of the Storm, they really tie all of their titles including such lost ancient gems as in lost Vikings. You can play the lost Vikings as a single character in Heroes of the Storm and that was amazing. That's what made me finally go in and play for a bit. I was like, yeah, I gotta see what that's like. They have this huge history to draw from and they put it together and they put it together with that polish. They make it a really special thing. Yeah, they'll do things like, all right, we're releasing this new shooter. Here are some of the characters. Six months later, you find out that a bunch of really good cosplayers and prop builders have spent all of their waking moments making new characters that they don't even know yet, really. But they've got enough, I guess, trust or enough of a feeling of what those characters are gonna be like, big thanks to Metzen and his writing team. Those guys are really great about characterization. So characters are easily beloved. The games are often expected to be great because Blizzard generally doesn't make any garbage. They've never let me down in terms of what I like. And they do this amazing thing. Once in a while, though, they get a black eye. I wanna talk about this recent story real quick about Blizzard coming under fire for shutting down a private server of a vanilla build of WoW, vanilla being the early version of the game. And they came under some fire for this as their lawyers told this vanilla server to shut down. The server was called Nostralis, I think is how I'm saying it or that I'm saying it, right? Anyway, some players really missed the old days. On April 10th, one of the more popular fan servers that had over 150,000 active members, that's the server was closed because they threatened legal action. Resulted in a petition garnering over 240,000 signatures. And people were really upset. People were really mad at Blizzard. They're basically saying, look, we wanna play WoW in its original form when we loved it the most. We don't like where it is now. We have a lot of nostalgia for this. Even the name of that server has kind of the word nostalgia in it. And for good or for worse, whether however you remember the original game, it's valid for players to think back fondly on previous game experiences. And they responded, which I thought was super interesting and said this, this is in a forum post. Some players missed the old days. On April 10th, one of our more popular fan servers known as Nostralis had been, or with 150,000 active members was closed. The honest answer is failure to protect against intellectual property infringement would damage Blizzard's rights. This is according to Blizzard. They added it would not be, quote, without great difficulty to create the servers in their original format. But they then said they were considering whether opening a pristine realm with the latest game might make players happy. And the way that that would work is this. They said, in essence, that would turn off all leveling accelerations. I know 20 or 30% boost the leveling in the early goings of the game. It would not include any kind of character transfers. You can't get heirloom gear, character boosts, recruiter friend bonuses, none of that stuff. It is just the game in its current form, but minus all of that fast travel stuff. And maybe see if that's the way players would wanna go. First of all, do you think that's a good idea? And then second of all, rockin' a hard place. What's Blizzard supposed to do? It's their intellectual property. Like you can't just let servers run without them having anything to do with it. Like I, especially back in the vanilla days, I actually did a show with Darren Kitchin of Hack 5 called The War Room, entirely about World of Warcraft. So I have extremely fond memories of vanilla. And more and more expansions came out. I played less and less. How many years was Stormwind on fire for? It drove me nuts. It's like, everybody's a wizard. You could put that out in seconds. Why is it still on fire? But I loved, I loved vanilla. And I can see why hundreds of thousands of players wanted to relive that experience and could not do so officially in turn to these private servers. So I kinda hope that Blizzard does make a plain vanilla server for people to hop back on. Just as an experiment to see how many people are willing to pay for that experience again. Yeah, a lot of them say they would. I wonder how many actually will. And I think that they have to weigh that very carefully. They don't wanna go through the trouble of what that means if it's not going to be an expectation of a reasonable, either a gain or at least breaking even for Blizzard on their side. I'm paying for it. If they bring that back, I will sign up. You know what's funny is I will too. I have an active subscription, but I would probably cancel that for a little while and try, at least try, because I wanna be able to talk about it on shows and stuff, but also just to see what that is and what that means. And some of that may just be a little shocking. Like I looked at some video of some vanilla servers and they went, oh yeah, that's right. Things got bad then. Seemed great then, like day one. It was new and innovative and now it's like old school. Yeah, it's four polygons where there are now hundreds. So yeah, I don't know how it's all gonna pan out for those guys, but Blizzard's an interesting egg, man. And I don't know how, everyone always chases Blizzard money, but they don't often chase the principles that seem to be in place over there that bring them their success. And it's elusive and it's tricky, but more and more you're gonna see Blizzard likes. You're gonna start to see Bethesda doing more and more with their own conventions and their own events. You're gonna see companies like Valve, especially with their success on Steam and with VR and just generally speaking, Valve is going to start to be a place where community is everything and they can do their own stuff. They kind of do now. So my prediction, expect more companies to go this direction and more of them to try to earn that kind of loyalty because what they do want is cult status. This is our medium. This is something that's no different than, I don't know, my mom loving Barbara Streisand in the 70s. Why did she? Well, she always made music she loved. Well, why do I love Blizzard? They always make games I love and they earn that from us and let's hope they keep doing it. Just a side-track about Valve for a sec. I still want Half-Life 3. I'm hoping with VR that we're finally gonna see something because I would love that to count to three. Well, there was a rumor floating around that they were gonna stealth release that game with the Vive when it hit retail or when it became available and then it ever panned out. Nobody ever talked about it. I think that was just wishful thinking, but I was under the firm belief that we would see a Half-Life 3 out of Valve until the head writer of the entire Half-Life series left after 20 some odd years of working there and is no longer there. That made me go, oh, maybe not. I mean, it's not like you couldn't have somebody else do it but it doesn't make me think that... Well, can they even stop the episode releases? I think we're still waiting on what? Episode three? There's supposed to be an episode three that never happened and it's almost like an episode in itself that we never got it. I don't know, it's weird. Games have become real life, but anyway, I love that business and I'm excited to see where all those guys head. Let's get to our pick of the day. Here's one here from Nick who says, I would like to recommend a series that the Crash Course channel on YouTube is doing. Crash Course Games in 20 week series that is talking about games and not just video games. They'll be covering board games, role-playing games, sports ball games and other games. I hate that term, sports ball. So far, they have done an overview on games and what will be coming up in the series and a very interesting episode on ancient games. The production value is very high for YouTube series and the series has been very informative so far. I am very much looking forward to the rest of it. Take a look. Sounds really interesting, Nick and I did check out some of it. It's like, I don't know, it feels very archeological to me, which I like, I'm a big fan of that and I didn't notice if they did, but maybe they talk a little bit about the ancient game of Go, which I don't understand at all. It's like marbles on a board and I don't know what's happening there, but pretty cool, right? Don't you think this would be a nice way to spend your time on YouTube? I think gaming history is kind of important because it's how we got where we are today in the whole industry and I think it's fascinating and I love doing that kind of stuff and you're going to see some similar kind of videos from me in the future. Oh, are we now? We're getting a little tease. I like that. More on that to come. Also, if you want to send your picks in, you can do it, send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com and you can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. Here's our message of the day. It comes to us at feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. It comes to us from Yaru in Malaysia who says, in regards to the music streaming exclusives, it reminds me, or exclusives rather, it reminds me a little bit of how the state of game consoles work. In the past game consoles used to boost a lot of exclusives. I think he means boast, but he put boost. As the consoles get more equal power or equal in power, however, most developers adopt the strategy of being as console agnostic as possible by releasing on as many platforms as possible and that is true. Real exclusives for game consoles are pretty rare these days. You might see some from time to time or timed exclusives such as rebooted Raiders 2 on the Xbox One, but by far and large, the games are developed for most of the popular consoles except for the Wii U because it's weaker and reasons unrelated to the discussions. This is all talking about some discussion, Patrick had with Tom, but he's right. There are still always going to be those though. Halo will always be an Xbox exclusive and it will always be a big deal when it comes out. Uncharted will always be an exclusive for Sony and it's a big deal when it comes out, even if four is the last one. I doubt it will be, but let's just assume it is. Maybe that team, it's their last one, I don't know. But I still think there's value in those. But, Jen, more and more, you don't see that many exclusives, the big monies in let's have it on every machine. Like, I'm gonna talk about Street Fighter because that's a game series I know way too well. Street Fighter 4, all the way through to Ultra, was on every system, obviously, except Wii. But for five, Sony put in money to Capcom so it is a PlayStation 4 exclusive. But there's still a PC version and now there's Crossplay, which I thought was fascinating for Sony to be willing to support that with their money. But all of the Capcom Pro Tour events are only on PS4. So if you want to compete at those events, that's the system you need to practice on because they're just different enough that those frame traps will screw you over. Well, and it's also an interesting story in that Capcom's been struggling and probably, we probably wouldn't be looking at a Street Fighter 5 release at all if the behind the scenes rumors are true without Sony's help. Sony basically came in and said, well, we can't not have Street Fighter in our lives. This is an important thing. Fighting games while having a very devoted, very hardcore following, it's not what it used to be. Those days are a little bit behind us. So it's nice to see that they stepped in to do that but also allow for the whole PC thing. So, and they've been pretty good about that. They're gonna now let you do remote play to PCs. There's talk, at least they're entertaining the idea that PlayStation VR might run on a PC, which is interesting. And their hardware is basically based on a PC, so. Well, even Microsoft, you can play Xbox One games on Windows 10 now. Yeah. That helped Killer Instinct a whole bunch because now they have this whole new part of the community that's just getting in and it's kind of like free to play but you buy the characters. So I thought that was a really smart decision on their part. I used to be good at these things and I'm terrible at fighting games now. Those days are behind me. All right, before we move on and close things down, we do have a remote segment. From one Justin Robert Young, he's in New Orleans and he's got a quick take on what's happening at the collision conference. Justin. Folks behind the collision conference in New Orleans this week say that 11,000 people will come through during the three day event. Now that's not really that big of a surprise because their web summit events in Europe can draw 40 plus. What is very impressive is that they've only been doing this since 2011 when the first web summit in Dublin only drew 400 people. This year will be a busy one. They're putting on five events in total in exotic locales including but not limited to Madrid, Lisbon and Hong Kong. Here in the present, here's the scene. They're pitch stages dotting the floor of Hall H and the Ernst and Morial Conference Center but it's not the focus of the event. There are plenty of booths for vendors of all stripes but they range from big data to vape tech. There are three stages shuffling diverse speakers from the tech world like Slack and IBM or weird oddities like former WWE champion Mick Foley and Green Bay Packer legend Brett Farr. But with only 20 minutes to speak this is certainly not the place for long winded keynotes. Put it all together and it's enough to make you ask, what the hell is this conference all about? So we're not a trade show and just, yeah right. I mean we're not a content show. We're a little bit of both. What we find is that people say they come to events like us because they're impressed by the speakers. They like the speaker line. If people go to the speaker line, they say, I want to go. People come back to events we think because of the connections they make at the events. That's Mike Harvey. He's the head of strategic communications for web summit and collision. In an increasingly saturated tech conference market, he told me that they aren't shy about trying to make collision as attractive to prospective attendees as possible. For example, this year's version of collision relocated from Las Vegas to New Orleans. A move that allows it to coincide with Jazz Fest, a massive music spectacle, posting headliners like Red Hot Chili Bevers, Elvis Costello, Lauren Hill and Stevie Wonder. People have to travel. There's 106 countries represented in the attendees. A collision this year. Some people are traveling a very long way. We understand it's a long way to come just for three days at the tech conference. And we're not arrogant enough to think that actually you're necessarily going to travel halfway and well. As a young startup who wants to invest, come and have some fun as well and we can hopefully make that happen too. Ah yeah, the fun stuff. What we've always found in perhaps this part of our Irish Dublin heritage is that going out of an evening is an important part of your working day. But even that requires a little stage craft. A pub crawl done on night one of collision conference used Twitter and app usage data to pair the right people together when they were out on the town. And we like to think of ourselves not in this events company but as a technology company. Because a lot of what we do, as I was talking about before, is around the use of data. But also the things like that, if in a big event like this, you can personalize the experience by using technology to give people these are the connections you need to make. These are the speakers you need to see. So there you have it. Collision conference. A data-driven experience that not only has a chance to make your tech dreams come true, it's also an excuse to see better than Ezra Jazz Fest. Now that I say it out loud, sounds pretty cool. So wow, what was that talk? That sounds really popular. The Daily Tech News Show. I'm Justin Robert Young from New Orleans. Being a Wimbledon. That's great. Nice work, Justin. Little remote segment there. That's pretty awesome. Don't eat the gumbo. Well, I actually do eat the gumbo. It's really good. But you're gonna gain weight. Good job and have fun and be safe on your way back. That's gonna do it for this episode of DTNS. Jen Cutter, you know what? A huge pleasure to do this with you today. I'd seen the episode you were on before and I thought, well, I bet we'd jive real well. And it turns out we did. So thanks so much for joining me today. My pleasure. I'm glad we got to talk a bit about Blizzard stuff because I know that's right in your wheelhouse. Oh my gosh, that's all I ever want to talk about. The thing is I could go on for days and if we did, Roger'd shoot me because producers don't like it when you go along. But I'm really glad to have been able to talk to you. Tell people where they can find you on the internet and get more of Jen Cutter in their lives. The best place would be to follow me on Twitter. I am at Jen Cutter, J-E-N-N-C-U-T-T-E-R. Awesome. Thank you everybody who makes this show possible. Like you, people who use the Patreon at patreon.com slash DTNS. Big thanks. Check out the mugs, the other stuff at the store. That's all over at patreon.com slash DTNS. There's links there, dailytechnewshow.com for everything else. Oh gosh, I think it's gonna do it. Don't forget, call us 512-59-daily. That's 593-2459. Catch the show Monday through Friday at 430 PM Eastern. Tomorrow, Justin will be back as a guest and so will Tom. We'll see you guys then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. I'm in club, I hope you've enjoyed this bro. There it is. Well done, everyone. That wasn't too bad. It was only 10 minutes long. You're in there, can you hear us? Yeah, yeah, I can hear you, can you hear us? No, it was good. It was my bad. You know what, I misjudged the news. I made it a little too long, because that was paranoid. It's all good. I saw, no, listen, I'd rather have been more than less, so it's all good, man. I was like, oh no, oh no, I was like, Tom was just like, ah, damn you, Tom. You in your example setting. I know, he's too good. He's a perfectionist and it makes it look easy, so. I know. We're just all trying to be like Tom. It's like, okay, I kid you now, I used to think those guys who juggled scars were like, dude, whatever, juggling scar. Then I tried and it was like, it was really hard. Exactly. Though everyone listen at home, remember that. None of this is easy. No, I think it went really well though. It was a good episode. It was great. You guys did gel. Definitely had a rapport. It was great. Good, good, good. Although that guy that Justin was talking to at CollisionCon sounded a lot like Michael Cain. Yes, that was my first thought. It's like, what are you doing there? Are you informed to say some people just want to watch the world burn, Mr. Wayne or whatever? Like, yeah, he had a very Alfred kind of tone to him. It's interesting. He didn't sound Irish, by the way, which I guess is not really the point, but he talked about how, you know, it's a grand Irish tradition to go pub-crawling. They just found it interesting. He sounded like Michael Cain. Working class, Michael Cain. Yeah. All right, show about titles. Yeah, what do you like? What do you got there? So, number one with seven votes is a show without merit. I don't think we'll go with that one. No, I like to think in, but yeah. Six, you don't know, Jack. Four, Google, Giddy away from my images. Pink guy, virtually guaranteed. Look for the light Carol Ann before crossing the street. There's a show with Johnson. Not sure if that's considered copacetic. Probably not. Let me see. I'll see you next lifetime. Oh, I get it, next lifetime. Nintendo things, hold on, I'm coming. Ha ha ha, Blizzard Streisand. I like that one. Blizzard Streisand. That's, oh, it's great. No, it's not bad. I'm voting for that one. All right, you can have my vote for that one, probably. Any others that jump out? Apple of gaming, this is where your brain, this is your brain when you're texting while walking. YAH, and then YA-WHO, question mark, question mark. Oh, YAH who? Yeah, I think, I think Blizzard Streisand. That one's classic. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's a rare, it's a weird reference, but I think if you listen to the episode, it makes sense. Plus Tom's telling everyone to have fun, so let's have fun. There's our fun today. Pickin' the title. I need to, where's the talk, where's my talk? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. All right, then, I guess I'll pull audio. Oh, did you stop the audio recording? Yeah, we're good on that. I'm gonna, in fact, it's all, almost all. Cool kids. All right, I gotta start at the beginning of this thing. Okay, I'm about ready to almost post. I'm just doing an export. So, the SoundCloud stuff, I think. Do you need the thumbnail image? Yeah, oh, right, for the ID3 stuff. Yeah, I'll give it to you over Slack. That'd be great. Try to remember where we, this was all in a doc at some point, Tom's process, and I don't know where Jenny put it, or if it was a doc and I just don't remember getting an email. I have the doc, but I don't remember where they, I mean, I keep a local copy on my desktop, just for this occasion, because I don't know where to get. There's one on the Google Drive. Wait a minute, this, wait, wait, wait, cancel, that's to Tom, that's not to Scott. Here we go. Yeah, I've got all the, have exactly what I need for the SoundCloud, so I'm all good on that. Oh, and Jen, you can do whatever you want, but if you want, this is all boring stuff, so if you don't wanna hang around for this, you certainly don't have to. I don't mind. We basically have a quote unquote after show where we talk about stuff, mostly about the show. Did you play Overwatch at all during the beta? Did you get a chance, Jen, to try out? No, I wasn't around. I was traveling for a memorial, I'm afraid. Oh, well, that's no good. Yeah, it's really good, like. I loved early TF2, and then it became all about hats, and then I still loved it for a little bit, but slowly got out of it. There's a new TF2, and it looks super cinematic. Yeah, if you're into that, the comparisons are fair. I don't think anybody... You can't pretend it's not. You can't pretend it's not. There's turrets, and there's classes, and there's stuff, right? If anything, it's not like TF2 was the first class-based shooter either, but at the same time, some of those roots, or some of that inspiration is visible, but once you play it, you realize, oh no, no, no, this is way, this is down the field. Like, it doesn't play like TF2, and I don't mean that it's not in a negative or a positive way. It just plays like something, I don't know, plays like something new to me. That's cool. I haven't had this kind of fun in a shooter probably since my Doom or Quake days. Like, genuinely blown away by how much fun that game is. As long as I can be a useful medic, I'm gonna be pretty happy. Like, I was medic and heavy, and I can see a medic and heavy equivalent, so I think I'm pretty happy. You're gonna like, see, and that's what's great. There's all these different support classes that heal or shield or do combinations of both, and they're all very unique. Like, every character is completely unique. And TF2 is like, all right, well you have uniqueness, but it's spread across the core group. What is it, four or five, whatever it is, classes. Demoman, heavy, spy, blah, blah, blah, right? Engineers, sniper, yeah. In this one, it's like, this one's like, all right, well, we got a guy that builds turrets, and so it's similar to what you might get from the engineer, but also there's this other guy who's a robot who turns himself into a turret, so he's basically a mobile turret, and that opens up all kinds of weird gameplay. So that's a different kind of defense. There's a sniper, but then there's also different kinds of snipers. This guy has arrows, she has a scope. This other guy's just crazy or whatever. You've got, instead of a Demoman, you have kind of a grenade or equivalent in Junkrat, but his use of these mines and traps and stuff make him way different than anything you ever did with him, so there's just this like, I don't know, there's special sauce in it, and it's really special, like really, really, you walk away from a match going, oh my gosh, this is what all I'm gonna think about for the next five years. So I'd be very curious what you think when you get it. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna, I should probably pre-order at some point, because I know I'm gonna play it like also, not just because it's my job, but because it looks interesting. I'd be interesting to cover, and also I love covering eSports these days, so being able to cover a whole other new game coming out is always a plus. Yeah, that's the other thing, and you mentioned it briefly on the show, and I meant to bring it up again, but during the beta, you could always tell when you ended up with Cloud9 in a match or something, or some Korean team that's been training all year, they would just throw us out of the bus, like it would be so hardcore, and you very quickly, they'll realize, oh yeah, Blizzard is not, they're not just making a really fun game for all of us to play, they are very interested in this becoming a real eSport. Well, because they've been pushing heroes of the storm really hard, they've done heroes of the dorm twice now, I think, or was that just one really long one? No, two times, one last year, and then this year. Okay, good. Yeah, they are serious about eSports because it just keeps growing, Bud Light's getting into eSports now. Man, it's so weird to get on ESPN. Well, I mean, the whole thing was kinda, I mean, Starcraft's the original eSport, really, and so anything, they owe it to their legacy to do what they're doing, and they've said before, so we're all about this now, we're all about let's make it an eSport if we can. So seeing this, you know, seeing shooters kind of move forward with CSGO in a game like this, and you know, others vying for a spot at the eSports table is very exciting to me as an old Quake and Unreal player, but I have not had this much competitive fun since like my Quake days. Even more fun than I have with TF2, and I had a lot of fun with TF2. I was big in Counter-Strike, like, you know, 1.4, 1.6, didn't play Source much, came back hardcore for Go, but I don't like a lot of the new changes in CSGO. I don't like the grind for missions. I don't like the, it became Hats again only with really, really, really, really expensive knives. Right. You're not wrong. It's frustrating because I don't think that game has benefited from that, from that transition. I understand that. Also, in Overwatch, I can actually finally play a girl, so that's kinda nice for me. Yeah, lots of them. Some of my favorite characters in that thing are female. I'm, like, playing Zarya is a treat. She's amazing. If you like healing, you're gonna love Mercy. Well, we should team up when I finally get the game. You can come to the ropes. Absolutely, I guarantee you what we can get some games in. It's really, really fun, and it also appears to not be region locked for most of the world, or at least we don't think so because the beta let me play people in France like it didn't seem to care about that stuff. I don't know if retail changes that, but even some games where I have trouble getting North American connection with somebody in Canada, it looks like we should have no problem here. Anyway, I would love to play. So, if you get it, or when you get it, let me know and we'll knock out some matches. We'll do. Invite some of my friends who think they're good. But they're not so much. I shouldn't say that. They're pretty good. This is being recorded, so I shouldn't say that. Roger, when do I end the thing? Do I just end it? Yeah, just stop it. Just stop the stream, the Hangout. I've got to figure out how not to screw that up. Where's... You should just stop streaming. But the Hangout will stay, but the stop streaming. Oh, so I just hit Stop Broadcast on the broadcast thing. That'll do what we need to do, and then I just tell EGR to go away. Yeah. Okay. All right, chat room, we're going to go now. I'm going to go get this file posted and get it up on the audio and all that. And then I can do what I'm supposed to do. Is Tom back in LA tomorrow, or where is he? He's in LA, right? He... He's at that meet-up or something. He's at something. I kind of vaguely remember. Honestly, I was just kind of pouring over all the publishing docs, like how am I supposed to do everything? So it might have told me and it might have went from one ear to the other. And what I'll do is keep you informed on... Well, actually, I'll make sure this is all posted before I hang up with you, but I'm going to stop the broadcast now. So thank you, everybody, for watching, listening, hanging out, being here. So... It's been awesome.