 My name is Christy Drenner. I'm the director of Connectional Resources, Treasurer and Chief Benefits Officer. And we are grateful that you have chosen to come to this training. It's a new training for our area, but we thought, you know, people learn in different ways, some visual, some by seeing, some by doing. And so we thought, you know, charge conference paperwork, you only do it once a year. So it's kind of good to have a refresher or maybe learn it in a different way. And so that's why we decided to do this. But before we start, I would love to open us in prayer. So if you'll pray with me. Dear God, we are grateful for this time. We are thankful for all the people on this call who serve their church in this way by completing this administrative task. While the tasks of the church office are not always the most fun or exciting, they are so critical to the ministry so that we can plan and grow into the future and observe your call on our lives. We are grateful for this time. We ask that you would open our minds and our hearts to learn what you would have us to learn this evening. It's in your sense. Holy STEM, we pray. Amen. All right. I'm going to turn over the show to Shirley Miller to introduce herself and there you go. I think I unmuted myself. I hear you. Can you hear me? Okay, thanks. So I want to thank you all for being here in spending part of your evening with us. We'll be done in under an hour depending on questions, et cetera. I appreciate all the work you do. I appreciate the district administrators who are here to help us answer questions. It turns out I don't monitor chat well while I'm talking, but we will stop and take care of all your questions as we go. I'm going to approach this as if you're new to filling out our online forms, but for those you've been doing it a while and this morning and this evening, I recognize names for folks that have been doing it a while. You might see this as a refresher. We have not changed the compensation or UMPIP form since 2017. We did make some slight changes to the roster for this year. So when we get to that, I'll tell you about that. So we'll just jump in. I sent you the PowerPoint, mostly as a reference or if you printed out, you can follow along. I'm actually going to demonstrate the online forms online. So that way you can follow along there and see how it works, see how the math works, that kind of thing. So again, feel free to post questions or even interrupt. So tonight we're going to talk briefly about the online portal forms and login information. Spend most of our time on best practices for ministerial compensation form and the UMPIP form. We'll spend some time on the online church roster. We'll glance at the required printable forms and then Mary Ellen Vela, representing the Center for Leisure Development, will talk about the marks of fruitfulness forms. So we'll cover all that, it seems like a lot, but actually it'll, I think go quickly. If you ask why do we have to do this? The book of this one tells us it's in paragraph T46 within the pastoral charge. The basic unit in the Connectional System of the United Methodist Church is the charge conference. The charge conference shall therefore be organized from the church or churches and every pastoral charge is set forth in constitution. It shall meet annually for the purposes set forth in paragraph 247 and may meet at other times as indicated in number seven below. So if you have a book of this one and want to read more detail, you can, but just delay the groundwork that your district at superintendent and the conference office did not make up charge conference somewhere back when they made up the book of this one, they put in charge conference. So that's why we do this. The online portals we're going to, forums we're going to talk about tonight, the ministerial compensation report, a UNPIP worksheet and online roster are all at this website, mtcumconline.org. I'll show you how to link to that. You've probably been sent, someone in your church has been sent instructions and overviews that has the link, both of them have the link to this online form. Every August 1st, we reset your church's password to the GCFA number. So your login is always the GCFA number. And now your password is that number unless you've already gone in and changed it. The GCFA number is unique to your church. It starts with either seven or a nine. It's got six digits. If you don't know your number or can't remember it, you can call your district office or if they're not available, call me and we'll tell you what the number is. The reason we reset the password is that we live in an itinerant system. So the preachers move and then we also have staff changes. So no one has to remember the password from the previous year with this system. They just start over and that's worked out well. But anyway, you can call us and get the GCFA number if you don't really have that GCFA number. So now I think we're gonna go live. Yeah, so the next, while the stuff I'm gonna be talking about, you can find on pages six through 15 of the PowerPoint or the PDF I sent to you but I'm gonna stop sharing this PowerPoint and I'm going to now go ahead and share the live screen. She says confidently. Okay, so in your printed materials, it tells you how to get to our online forms place but if you forget, you can always go to our conference website, then go to Connectional Resources, then go to Charge Conference. And then under Online Forms is the link where you're gonna put in, remember your GCFA number is your username and your GCFA number is your password. The system's already defaulted to your Charge Conference forms 2022. If you are actually filling out the compensation report for 2021, you can change it there. But for Charge Conference sake, you don't have to adjust the year at all. I checked with the East District and asked if I could use their site. So when you click on your church, when you enter your church's GCFA number twice, you'll get a password page. You can change your password or if you hit cancel, you, ah, darn it. Okay, sorry. Let me get in again. So I had this open and it must not have liked me leaving it open so long. You can change the password or you can hit cancel and it'll take you to what I call your landing page. It'll say welcome camp wisdom or I'll say welcome, you know, paradise or whatever church you're at, it'll say welcome because I'm using East District. It says welcome East District. The instructions and the overview of the forms were sent to you probably by your district admin, but they're also here. So the overview talks about all three of the forms, the ministerial compensation report, the UMPIP and online roster. The instructions go step by step through the ministerial compensation report and the UMPIP worksheet. So those are available to you all the time. So we're going to start with the compensation report. And so I'm gonna, you can tell, I did this this morning, but I'll start from the beginning. I'll be someone else. When you click on the add new, this page will show up. Your church will already be in this first gray box. Since I'm using East District, it says East District, but you then type it again over here. So if you're Bogota or First Paris or whatever church you are, you type it there. Since I am East District, I'm gonna type East District as my church. Then you type in the pastor, you're doing the compensation report form for, if you only have one pastor in your church, that's easy. If you have several pastors, you're gonna do one for each pastor. So this time we'll just do it for someone else. Then you can say, is a senior or associate? Click the down pick. Since you're doing my assumption right now, so you're filling this out for 2022, January 1, 2022 is when your salary starts for your pastor. You would leave it at January. Many of you have moves during the middle of the year and it's July, so you can switch it to July. Some churches don't change your salaries in January, so when they change them like in April, then they need to select April. But this is charge conference season. We'll assume January is the month you're, when this starts, compensation is effective. And a grayed out box means you can't fill it in, the district's East District. So whatever district you're in, your district will be in that box. Can you, so let's do this a little bit. I'm gonna go in a little closer. All right, so I'm going to fill this out in a couple of different ways, but I'm going to use the minimum salary for a full-time Eldor Deacon that hasn't changed for a couple of years now and in their first year. And that is $50,236. That's the minimum salary. I'm going to do the first example with no percentage. So I would tab down, it fills in the zeros for me, and then in box four, did it not fill it in? That is not good, hold on. Yeah, it tells you the total. So you can, some churches have grants or equitable compensation. And so maybe your church has been awarded $5,000. If that's the case, the church is gonna pay 45, the conference is sending $5,000 for the year, and it still comes out to $50,236. Or maybe you have a pastor who wants an non-accountable business allowance, which is just cash you give them monthly without a reimbursement, and so that's there. Oh, that's a lot, isn't it? So anyway, so it still comes out to $50,236. So line four is all the, well, I would say cash that your pastor, the salary they intend to be paid. If it's not, our legislation says that if you don't have a percentage that the housing allowance should be $12,000 for the year. Again, this is an annual report. You would fill this out annually for January through December, or if you have a pass or change in the life, still use annual numbers. So it's always filled out annually. And then you can see that the total there is $62,236. So that is how that would work out in this case for non-parsenage clergy compensation report. Now, maybe what you really wanna do is have some money in utilities. So you can do that. And it still comes out to $62,236. So basically, whatever the cash, if you're a non-parsenage and even parsonage, if you're a non-parsenage clergy person, whatever the total compensation is gonna be, you can arrange among your cash salary, your non-accountable business allowance, housing allowance and utilities. There are some rules about that. You can't have all your money in housing if you're a full-time pastor. And if anyone wants to talk to me offline about that, I can explain the rules to you. We assume salary, assume housing and utilities. So, but you can take that total and make it be what it works for you. Any money you put in housing and utilities, for example, then becomes an IRS issue. And that's on y'all to figure out what you do. But here's how it's a semi-legal issue and Chris can jump in for us. When this salary is voted on at charge conference, you can't then change your housing allowance whenever you want. It is a charge conference action that's set. And so this is, if the IRS comes wanting to audit you, this is your proof that you had this much money in housing, whatever it was. So you can't just, if you can change your housing allowance throughout there, if you need to, but it's not just something you and the secretary, you by yourself can do, it becomes the actual action at your church. So we can talk more about that if you need to, but that's, I just wanna show you, I could do the numbers. So now let's do a parsnage. So if you are a pastor or your pastor's living in a parsnage, then you change this to yes. Their box grays out, there's no housing allowance. And so parsnage is handled utilities differently. Some churches, the office pays all the utilities at the parsnage and the pastor never sees the bill, but it's still part of your basic $50,236 compensation. So you've moved $5,000 out of your cash to $5,000 in utilities. So it's also possible that maybe you in a parsnage would like to just be directly reimbursed for some sort of utilities. And so you could say, well, I wanna put $1,000, I'm using numbers that are hard to buy by 12 right there. And so as you can see, adding all these lines together still comes out to the minimum salary of $50,236. So I'm gonna leave that there for the moment, but that I hope shows the different ways that you can take whatever, and this would be true if you're a part-time pastor or whatever, if you're making $2 million or $10,000, whatever it is, these are the ways you can use the compensation report to distribute that income and housing. So the next thing I wanna talk about are salary reductions. This is designed to help the local church know how much to pay you. We will come back to line 10. If you're a full-time pastor at the 2012 general conference, they voted that pastors need to help, need to contribute to their pension and they need to contribute at least 1% in order to get full benefit of their pension. So that's a huge long conversation that if you wanna do offline, we can do. So line 10, and this is, you go to the UMPIP worksheet to figure out what you wanna do. So we'll come back to line 10. Similarly, line 17 and 18 because a pastor can do their UMPIP either before tax, after tax Roth or after tax. So those lines will come back and fill in after we do the worksheet. Line 11 through 15 have to do with the pastor's health insurance. So I'm gonna select that this is a full-time pastor right now, did you see the benefits pop in? For 2022, the church for a full-time pastor will be billed $11,100 for that person's health insurance. They might decide to pick a plan that costs more than that. There's one more plan that costs more than that and that would work out to $468 a year. So that's a salary reduction. We're not asking the local church to pay anything beyond this as a benefit. Everything else the pastor might select, dental, vision, a more expensive plan would be a salary reduction. Similarly, if the pastor has his or her spouse or family, your church, it's a salary reduction. So maybe you have just your spouse on there. This is a made up number, the 9,000 but it's $9,000 that will come out of the salary to support the spouse's health insurance. They could pick a health flexible spinning account like say I wanna have 600 extra dollars for extra health stuff. So that would come out of my being overage. So all of lines 11 through 15 are what I call, we call health insurance overages. But the church is expected to pick up the 11,100. If everything the pastor selects for their medical insurance and is over that, then it's a salary reduction. And you can see that then it's adding up how much reduction that is right there. And then line 20 gives you what's left doesn't include housing. Remember it's line four minus line 16, 19 to divide by 24, 12 or however you pay your pastor. It's to help the local church figure out what kind of check don't need the right to the pastor. So though all those reductions before tax and after tax are to help you in the local church figure out what is the actual salary check gonna look like not counting housing stuff. So those are the reduction sections. So then we mentioned the required benefits. If you're a full-time pastor in our conference then you are in our pension program which is called CRISP and in the conference health insurance which is administered through HealthFlex. If you're a three-quarter pastor you cannot be in the health insurance but you can be in the pension or you can waive it. If you're a half-time pastor you can be in the pension program or you can waive it. The quarter-time pastor is not qualified for the pension and that's per general conference not us. Retired pastors also do not qualify for the pension program and TDS pastors do not qualify. So we're for the sake of illustration using the full-time pastor so that you can see the benefits and what's going on there. And this is built to your church it's not a salary reduction, it is a benefit. And if you are a half-time pastor and you waive pension the first time you're at your new local church your district will request that you fill out a pension waiver form that's notarized and they'll send it to me so that I can note that you're waiving pension and we actually keep those forms forever. But anyway for tonight we're talking about a full-time pastor. So if some churches set up in their budget a reimbursement amount. So they say, okay pastor head we're gonna put $2,000 or let's just make it easy we're gonna put $2,400 a year in our church budget then that you can turn in receipts within 60 days right to be reimbursed for. So if you take a lay leader out to lunch and you pay for it and you wanna turn in receipt you can if you go to a continuing education event and your registration and expenses as long as there's money you can turn in receipts to get it or items like that. This is a user to lose it kind of thing like if the pastor only uses $2,000 you don't write a check then at the end of the year for $400 to the pastor because this is a budget line item all these this is only based on receipts or handed in with proper documentation in a proper timeframe to be reimbursed. Not every church you can at the end of the year like take that S400 and put it on then 2023's budget if you want or you can start over however you wanna do that. If you don't have an adopted employer or reimbursable expense plan then you just leave on no and you can't fill it out. In your charge conference paperwork there is an adoption agreement for reimbursables that I think you're required to turn in every year but that doesn't mean that you are actually putting money in here that's on you and the local church's budget. So and then a totally optional lines 22 and 23 some meaning two or three churches have an automobile for their pastor and then more churches have what we call dependent health flex premiums. So this is if your church this is not a salary reduction but your church has a benefit says hey I'm gonna pay for all your family's health insurance then you would type in in your church whatever that is if it's 14,000, if it's 9,000 they're never gonna be even numbers even numbers says to me we haven't done the math but for sake of illustration you would put that in there. So again, 22 and 23 are completely optional and not very many churches use it but we wanted to point out those boxes. So let's say you are either the administrative assistant or the pastor of your church or even the SPRC chair and you've got to get it all approved and so you start to fill this out. In order to save it you've got to have something in these boxes. So but I haven't gone to SPRC yet I don't know when they're gonna sign it I haven't talked to church treasure so you can put in an X and you'll be able to save the documents. You'll find if you don't fill these out and then you click save, it tells you you can't do it. So but in order not to lose your work because no one wants to lose their work just put an X in there or you can I wouldn't honestly put their names in until it's gone to them because that way you can be confident that you've actually met with SPRC or your church treasure. I would prefer that you would put full elder or whatever you got in this blank but if you don't fill it out no one's gonna, it won't matter. So this section that says for district and conference use only there are two not Roman numerals that you can rely on. Roman numeral eight is the pension plan compensation. So that number is goes toward the UMPIP match. It's a number that you can check and see and so also you can apply some churches can apply for insurance supplement that's the number they use to find what their eligibility level is. So that number we use the number 10 we added about three, four years ago and that's a total pass or a cost of the church. So that includes everything. If you put money, if you put funding and optional benefits in reimbursables, the required benefits of pension and health insurance, housing, everything that you're paying the pastor will show up here. So I have worked with a church or two that says we have $90,000 and that's gotta cover the required benefits and everything else. And then so we can work backwards and every time you change a number up here like if I changed this to, you know, and they're getting paid more than minimum tab down that total changes. So that gives you the option to play around. If that's the way your church is operating, we only have this much cash for part-time or full-time pastor, then you can look at that number and it'll help you track where you are and all that that I need to know. So let, does anyone have another, you know, there are a lot of questions in chat. Have they been answered? Nope, we're all, we're on top of it. Okay, great. Okay. Wait, hang on one second. I'll wait. This came up with a previous pastor had expense reimbursable account. Not sure I need or want this. What is the process I need to complete to renegotiate this account? So that's just a conversation that you would have with your church as you're setting the budget for next year. That is an important point. If you move mid-year, whatever the amount for the reimbursable expense is just for half of that year. So if the line item is 2,000 and there's a mid-year move that pastor should have only spent 1,000 and there's 1,000 left for the back end of the year. So that's really just a conversation with your local church. Since it doesn't affect compensation, that's more of a budget question. That's correct. Okay, I'm going to save this. We're going to come back to it. Now we're going to go to the UMPIP worksheet. And you notice that it filled in Keith's name. Look at this red line here. If you are a quarter time retired or TBS, do not fill this out. If you are three quarter, one half and waving pension, do not fill this out. You're done. You don't have to come do this worksheet. But if you are full-time or if you're part-time not waving, then you need to come do this worksheet. The compensation worksheet was, compensation report contained annual numbers. Now we're moving to monthly numbers. So the instructions are embedded here for people who like to read instructions and the instructions on the PowerPoint or the PDF or pages 16 through 18 and this. But so this is a worksheet. This worksheet does not talk to the compensation report. You have to fill this out, then you'll have to annualize it, then you go back to the compensation report and fill in your number. This is just to help you figure out the 1%. Again, in 2012, and it's all explained down here at the bottom of the worksheet, the general conference voted that in order for a pastor to receive a full 3% match from a local church, he or she had to contribute at least 1% to their pension in the UNPIP category. So at that point, and I would say almost 100% of our pastors do that, but again, this is a worksheet. It's gonna help the pastor determine the 1% then decide if he or she wants to do just 1% or more and whether they want to be before tax, after tax, or after tax raw. So let's take the same minimum salary. We'll say there's no parsnage. I'm sorry if I typed that, okay, right. So that's the base compensation. They didn't put anything on the first several one in utilities and they're putting 12, well, let's make it harder. Let's say they're gonna put 2,000 in utilities and 10,000 in housing. So you can see that their pension plan compensation, which is salary plus housing is 62, 236. The 1% amount is 622, $622.36. We always round up to 623. So I'm being paid minimum salary. I don't really feel what is 623 a month. It's about $52, I think, oh, okay. Well, I can afford $100. So I think I don't wanna do my 1%. So I think I'm gonna say, I'm gonna do $100 and I can change this to dollars. So then I'm saying I wanna contribute before tax as a salary reduction $100 a month to my UMPIP. It may be that 1% is about all I can handle. So I'm gonna put in one, leave it at percent. And then that's what's going to be what I put in for my annual UMPIP contribution. A pastor can decide if they want to be before tax, after tax, after tax or off. I've actually had some pastors use at least two of these. Most don't. Most use before tax in an increasing percentage of folks are doing after tax. And again, you could put in the 1% or you can say, again, I can afford $100 a month. So I think I wanna do $100 after tax or off. So the pastor gets to pick. So if you are filling us out for a pastor, you need to be in conversation with him or her about what they wanna do. You can fill the worksheet out together. Here she can say, well, I want to do the bare minimum or I'd like to do more. There's actually a maximum limit that IRS sets. And I think it's, I'm gonna get this correct me if I'm wrong, it's like 26.5 if you're over 55. Because there's a catch up or 50, I don't remember, because I couldn't afford that. If I'm making 50,000 a year, I'm probably gonna look for something smaller than the IRS max. We will check you on that if you do the max, we'll make sure. So this form is to help you figure out what you're gonna do. We have some larger churches that have a bunch of lay people in addition to clergy and UNPIP. And so they say, surely you don't have to tell the general board, which is also Westpap, we will. So if you, in filling us out, click church, then I'm not gonna let the general board of pensions know what your pastor needs deducted and you'll need to contact them and make sure that's correct. So you get the correct bill from them. We always say put conference and then it's on me if we get it correct or not. But anyway, I think it's a good idea but anyway, so let's go back and do a Parsonage. So if you have a Parsonage, you lost the housing line, right? Now you're gonna put in your income. So say I'm gonna put in the 45, 236 and then $5,000 is in utilities because there's gonna be Parsonage utilities somehow. So again, the form and Westpap, the general board, factor in the value for the Parsonage. You don't have to do the math, it's been factored in. And so the 1% for a pastor in the Parsonage at a minimum salary would be $627.95, which is $628 a year or about $52, $53 a month. So same process then. The pastor says, okay, I think I wanna be billed 1%. So I'm gonna pick that or I wanna go $100. I'm gonna pick that. And then again, they could say, well, I'll do after tax, after tax fraud, they can pick. So we're gonna leave this on the Parsonage example and I'm gonna say that I think I can afford $100 a month. Now remember, this is monthly. So you check this, you sign this, you have to date it. If you don't do any of that, I won't let you out. And you save it. So remember, I can print it out, but I can remember I said I'm gonna do $100 pre-tax. I'm gonna save that. So now I figured out how much money I wanna do for my salary reduction as part of my pension. So now I have to go back to the compensation report and finish it. So remember, I said I wanted to do $100 a month and so that's $1,200. So look right here. Right now, I can tell by the 2% that the pastor has not contributed yet to their UMPIP. They're not matching. But once I put in a match, it changes to three. I know then that the pastor has matched the deal. And then that concludes what you have to do. Now, if you said, now I'm gonna do this as a after-tax Roth, same concept, still works. So you just fill it in. And so what we do, the district office and I, when we get your UMPIP worksheet and your compensation report, we compare those to see if they're filled out correctly. If you said you wanted to do 1%, let's just do zero. And 1%, remember down here, 1% of 627.95 would be 627. Watch this, if I only put in 627, it didn't change. Roundup, if you aren't in the 1% roundup. And so that shows you that you put in the appropriate amount for your 1% match. One of the other things I neglected to say is that when you finish filling out your report, contact your district office and they'll sign it. Once they sign it, it's locked. I get a message that it's signed, then I check it. And if I have questions, I'll go back to your district administrator who then will go back to you. So, but once it's signed by the district, it's locked to the local church. The district can unlock it if you decide to change some things during charge conference season. But I just forgot to say that. So that, are there questions about the UMPIP and the before we move on and the conference site? Which? Do you want to go ahead and unmute and ask what you specifically made clarity on that might be easier? This is Trini from on first road. Can you go back to the UMPIP? Worksheet? Worksheet? Yeah. Okay. What is it? Okay, you want me to click on the worksheet itself? Yes, please. Okay, there you go. Okay, so in number six. Yeah. The total, I mean the whatever total that will come. And this one is this for, if you do not check anything like this, this is the amount that will come out from the salary of the pastor, right? If you do not wish to be billed. No, you have to check everything. This is a worksheet. It says nothing except helps you figure out your 1%. So you literally, this is just for you at the local church and the pastor to fill out. No amounts are filled in automatically. So even if you did the worksheet and the pastor said, oh, well, I'm just not going to contribute. Then you wouldn't put anything in line 10 or 17 or 18 on the UMPIP. So, no, this is a worksheet. None of these numbers talk to the compensation port. There's no automatic billing for the UMPIP. We automatically bill for benefits, but this is a salary reduction. The bill comes from West Path or the general board. And that's, it's not automatic. Oh, it's all self-determined. Oh, okay. Training, is your pastor in a car snag or not? No. Okay, so, so in your case, you would fill in the base compensation, whatever housing you have, and then your housing, whatever utilities if they pick in. And then we do have the exclusion. And we say, okay. So you would fill in everything you paid on the compensation report. The housing allowance, housing exclusion and compensation. And then that would tell you that pastor's 1%. And then, then you all have to make a decision, you know, am I going for the 1% or am I? If he selects this monthly, I mean the number 7C, which is often do wrong. If he wants to do that, yeah. So you pick which one, some pastors do two or three, which, you know, West Path figures out, I don't have to figure out how to just tell them. But, but yeah, no, most of our taxes do, most of our pastors do before tax, which has to do with retirement and housing allowance and other subjects. But yeah, no. So the pastor picks. And so if you're filling out the form with him or her, you'll need to talk about it. Okay. Am I answering your question? Yes. Okay, great. Okay. Thank you. There was another question. I don't think we answered that someone wanted me to go over something again. I think Liz addressed it with Margie and said that she would work with her directly. Mark has a question that says the insurance option period comes after charge conference forms are due. How can you accurately answer line 13? He came in late. He said, he's sorry if you've already answered this, but a refresher is not bad. You know, you came in late, but I skipped it. So open. So thank you for asking that question. I apologize. I told Christie, I write down notes and I quit to read. Then I don't read them anymore. Open enrollment for the pastor starts November 3rd. And so they don't know yet. Your pastor may not know what he or she is going to. They may not know what they are going to do. They may not know what they are going to do. They may not know what health insurance plan they are going to pick, whether they are going to do dental or vision. They may not know at that moment if they are covering their family or if they are making an FSA or HSA deal. You can leave lines 11 through 15 blank for charge conference. If it's before November 3rd through the 18th. And then after you pick your plans and you print out what you picked, you may not have a staff yourself. And ask the district to unlock the form because you want to fill in these annual amounts. So we understand that people are starting charge conferences like in a week or two. And you don't know the answers to 11 through 15. So please leave zeros. And then you can go back in November, early December and adjust it. And get accurate annual numbers. So I do know for a fact that if you call our office and we're going to say, go back to your enrollment and print out what you picked, because then you'll be able to see how much more you owe than the church is going to pay per month. So the church, you're going to be billed $925 a month for sure. For the health insurance. It may be that it costs more than that for you. And so you need to fill out this. So thank you for asking that question. We understand that you don't have that information yet. And we also are happy for you to fix that after you enroll in your health insurance, know what these numbers are. And then so you just have your district open it, you re put it in there, we save it, they resign it. And it's correct. Surely can I say something. Yeah, please. I don't just speak for Metro district. It is of great help to us. If you ask for this to be unlocked so that those numbers can be updated once you do know your health care costs. Because it helps the numbers and checkout. Be much more accurate. Good point. And then. When the next minister comes in. We have a fair. Conclusion is to what's a salary reduction. And what was part of the actual salary. Correct. Thank you, Liz. Any other questions about compensation report or you know, P worksheet. I'm missing. Okay. So I want to go on to the last online form then and we can come back at the end and answer more questions if it seems clear as mud. So the one thing we have changed is the roster. And. We'll see. I've already filled up part of this. Okay. Right. Okay. So if you look on the 19th page of your PowerPoint or your PDF, there's a pop up note that's going to come up and it's going to say. Billing contacts are required. Lay leaders required. You can put none in there if it doesn't apply. So I may need to fill another church. I don't know. Let's. If you need me to show you the pop up will come back. So. New this year. We're trying to streamline our systems in the conference office and you know that you get bills from us apportionment property and some of you get health and pension billing. And so we want the right person to be getting those bills. And so new this year we've added these three contacts. Asking you to fill them in. So. So I did this earlier today, but let's say let's update it. Let's, let's decide that I'm not doing any more of it. Shanna. Porter is. Okay. And she works here. So all of this is correct. We'll save it. So also she does. She's going to do the property insurance. So we're going to put in Shanna. Porter. And again, I just didn't take time to fill this out earlier. And all the rest. And you save it. So, but I'm in a real small church. We don't have health insurance and pension billing. So if you just type none in here. You can save it in the pop up won't pop up anymore. Okay. In addition. We need the lay leader. So you saw that pop up when I started it and it said, you need the lay leader. So the lay leader at our church is named Zachary head. And anyway, so you'd fill in all this information, you know, head app. And so I'm just not doing it for sake of time. But we need all of that. What we don't want is admin. A lot of your emails are admin app. You can do the admin app, but we need a name with you. You know, so if it, if I'm the admin app, like Marielle is a CDL admin, but we need Marielle Vela. So. So anyway, these four, the three billing contacts and the lay leader. If they're not filled out, you'll get the pop up. It doesn't mean you can't save it and leave it. It just means you'll get the pop up. You'll get the pop up. You'll get the pop up. You'll get the pop up. You'll get the pop up. You'll get the pop up. And every year you're going to have positions already filled in. If it's the same, click up, click, update and save. And then the date will pop in and we'll know when you did it. The other thing I want to say is we added another new one down here. Disaster responsible liaison. Jeremy Bassett's our new disaster response coordinator. And he's trying to get a good list of who you would talk to at your local church. If there were some sort of disaster. If there were some sort of disaster response. If there were some sort of disaster response. If there were some sort of disaster response. Your churches are arranged in. Different types of ways, right? So, so here's a church council choice. Administrative council chair. Administrative board chair, council ministry chair. If you have a simple organization and all of those are just one person, just pick the one of the four you like the best and put it in there. Don't enter that person four times. If you happen to have an administrative board and a council council, you don't have to put it in there. If you still have both put them in, but you literally don't have to put the same person and all four, just pick the one that matches your church, the best and use one of those categories. So back up here. The other thing I want to say about the roster, because we're trying to streamline and be accurate about who we send our bills to in the local church. If you make a change. During the year, if you would remember to come back to the online roster and do that. You can also, it could be on any of these positions, but in particular for selfishly for the conference office, if you make a billing change, if you'll go to your online roster and do that. And do update. I will actually get an email saying that you updated your billing contact in whatever category. And then I'll make sure our systems get it. That's not true for all these positions, but the ones that are at the pop up addresses will get that information. So that's a change. Usually you have charge conference, you fill it out and that's it. You don't ever touch it again. We're asking you to you as a pastor and or staff to remember that this roster is here and to fill it out when you have changes. Lay member Daniel conference or lay leader or whatever. It's very important that you tell your district office that you changed that too. But this will help us going forward to have an updated online roster. Okay. So I'm going to leave the online forms. So I'm going to stop sharing on the online forms and go to our conference website. I hope. Maybe I didn't have to do that. Whatever. So can you see, can y'all see this one? Christie. Okay. Thanks. So. They didn't hire me for my technical abilities. I just want to say that. Okay. So. You would get a checklist from your district of everything in need to turn in that's been to every year. It's usually pretty close to the same. Remember we've been doing online forms. Here's the overview, the instructions for the compensation. Here's how you get to the forms. Then you have a bunch of other forms that you have to fill out. This is where you find them. It's on our conference website under. Connectional resources under charge conference. So. If you have a, you know, your pastor has to fill out a report. There, then that report is there for the pastor to fill out. If you need to fill out your trustees report, your trustees report is there. And, you know, and it has some things filled in, but not everything. These coverages. Evidently your church has and you can fill them in. Don't ask me. So. But there are people you can ask. So all of these are. All these are. All these are. All these reports that you're being requested to turn in. Or here on our conference website. That's, and I think the instructions, the district sends you directs you there. But just to say that's where they are. And then by September 1st. These checklists will be updated in case you can't find them. In the emails that you were sent. From your districts. So. That really is the end of what I need to say. And I'm going to switch it to Marielle. Okay. But at the end of the PowerPoint or PDF I sent you. Are all your district email and my email. If you need to contact us. The district is where you start. It's not that I want to help you. It's just that they need to send you. For your charge conference. I might not, but I certainly can help you with online forms. And specific questions related to compensation. Okay. I'm going to stop sharing. And turn it over to Marielle. Thank you, Shirley. You guys able to see that? Okay. Yes. All right. Well, good evening. My name is Mary Ovella. And I am the administrative assistant for the center for. Leadership development. And I will briefly be going through the required year in forms for clergy and SPRC, including charge profile review form marks of fruitfulness. And the clergy personnel form. So these forms are available for completion between September 1st and December 15th. To begin, I'd like to direct you to the marks of fruitfulness page that can be found on our website. As seen on the slide on the marks of fruitfulness page, you will find the review sheet that you can use to become familiar with the skills and competencies that will be evaluated. You'll find SPRC and clergy log in information. And you will also find instructions on how to complete the required forms. So once you're ready to log in and begin, you will visit the website on the slide and log in using the instruction. So just a quick note. I often get asked which year needs to be in that dropdown menu. So it'll always be the upcoming year. So just keep that in mind that gets confusing sometimes. And then this is an example of what the SPRC forms page looks like once you've created a new password. The first form is going to be a very helpful informational document that you will need to start with. The second and third forms are for recommended reading. And then the last three forms are what is actually going to be completed by you. So the charge profile contains questions regarding demographic and statistics for the area. It should be reviewed and updated. And then this is an example of what the SPRC forms page looks like once you've created a new password. The first form is going to be a very helpful information. So the SPRC form is going to be reviewed and updated with current information and the SPRC and pastor should work together to complete it. So because this form is only located on the SPRC login, the pastor will sign and date along with the SPRC. So be sure to select save. And I also recommend copying your work as you go into a word document just to prevent any loss. And then on the review form, the SPRC form is going to be reviewed and updated. And then the SPRC form is going to be reviewed and updated with current information concerning appointment situation. And it must be completed for each appointed clergy person. So just as a quick note, a question I receive often is about two point charges. So only one church will have the ability and is required to fill out the review form as well as the marks of fruitfulness forms online. So the review and update for current information. And then save as you go. And this is your annual assessment for clergy required by the cabinet. And it is used for formational purposes by the SPRC. And this will also need to be completed for each appointed clergy person. Again, if you're part of a two point charge, only one church will have the ability and is required to fill this out. You'll go through each of the three sections and be sure to save as you go. All components must be completed and the system will indicate the progress toward completion. So please note that hitting the complete button will lock the form. So make sure you've made all of your edits before you do that. Right. And then the last four slides I'm sharing with you are examples of the clergy log inside. So like SPRC clergy will use the instructions from that same marks of fruitfulness page. That we looked at from the beginning. And you will have the option to change your password and your form section will look just like this. It's like the other forms you will go through an update for each of the three sections. Complete all the components. And the system will indicate your progress. And then be sure you have made all of your edits before you hit that complete button. And that is all I have for you. And I put my email in the description. And then you will finally reach the marks of fruitfulness page. Evaluation for yourself. So this is your annual assessment required by the cabinet and use for informational purposes by the SPRC. Just like the other one, you will go through each of the three sections, complete all the components. And that is all I have for you. And I put my email at the very bottom there. So be sure to reach out to me if you have any questions. Thank you. Thank you, Mario. So we're open to any questions that you might have. So Tammy Galloway has a question about marks of fruitfulness. She says last year, the forms timed out after a certain amount of time. Will that be the case again this year? I'm not sure of any changes in that. But last year we haven't changed anything since then. So that could be the case. That's why I recommend kind of keeping a document going as you go. Just in case, you know, your computer dies, something happens. It's good to just keep that backed up somewhere. Once again, I can only speak for the Metro district, but in the case of two point charges. Where each church feels they want their say. They want their opinion. I can create a generic marks of fruitfulness page, send it to them. Now they will have to, you know, manually fill it out, scan it and email it to me. But it does give away for both churches to have. Representation with the district superintendent. Just to back you up, Liz. When I was a district administrator, we did the same thing. We did the same thing. We did the same thing. We did the same thing. We did the same thing. They could work through me to the church. It's not primary to fill out their marks of fruitfulness or whatever they need to fill out, really forms. So I think that can be true for any district. The other thing I want to add is that. In the case of the church log in. Oftentimes there's multiple people going in as the church. And so the number of people that go into the church site. And the number of people that are in it previously can't get into it. And so I can tell you what the password is. On each of the levels, but try to minimize the number of people going into the church site. Well, if I don't see any other questions, we truly appreciate your time. We know there are more exciting things to do on a Thursday night and we appreciate your time and hope that this will ease your. Experience this fall, you know, where to find us if you have any additional questions. Thank you all so much. Thank you.