 Welcome to Mind Pump. In this episode, we answer people's fitness and health questions. It's our Qua episode. Real people. And at the beginning of the episode, we talk about current events, our lives. Oftentimes, we mention our sponsors. Here's what went on in this awesome episode of Mind Pump. We start out by talking about the XFL. This is a new professional football league. We'll be starting right after the Super Bowl. Talk about whether or not we think it's going to succeed. Then we talk about old, fit, awesome-looking people. Jane Fonda, she looks phenomenal. 82 years old. She's on that show, Grace and Frankie. And then Justin brought up one of his older people crushes, Richard Simmons. He's doing pretty good too. Then we talked about whether or not you communicate to impress or to influence what each one of them means. And that reminded us of fitness and nutrition certifications and how some of them seem to just give you lots of information, which is great. You'll sound impressive. Look what I did. But they don't really teach you how to influence your clients. Now, one of our favorite certifications that does help you influence, learn actually how to influence your clients, is NCI. The NCI certifications are phenomenal. And we work with them. So we got you a massive discount. If you're a trainer or if you're interested in learning more about yourself through learning through nutrition, go to ncicertifications.com forward slash mine pump. Mine pump listeners get the thyroid masterclass absolutely free. This is a certification that normally costs $600. We worked out a deal where if you listen to mine pump, you get that certification for free. Go check that out. You're welcome. Then Adam talks about how he almost got in a fight with an old guy. I bet he would have won. I think he would have won. Old fights. We talk about Gwyneth Paltrow's candle. Apparently it smells like her vagina and it's sold out. That's kind of crazy. We talk about sex after kids and how it doesn't exist anymore. Poor Adam. I talked about Neil Pert, the drummer from Rush who recently passed away. What a badass. Actually one of my idols. I talk about how I ate lots of wings over the weekend because well, you know, because wings are delicious. And that reminded us that one of our sponsored butcher box, which is a company that takes grass fed healthy meats, delivers them to your door. Well, they have an amazing promotion right now. If you sign up with butcher box, you get wings for life. So in other words, if you sign up now, you get three pounds of chicken wings in every single box for the life of your subscription. Plus, you get the mine pump $20 off your first box discount with the mine pump code. All you got to do is go to butcherbox.com forward slash mine just in time for that Superbowl party. Then I talk about how Tesla is hitting new highs in the stock market. And then we brought up, I guess there's a company called DNA Nudge tells you how to eat based off your DNA. And finally, wizardry. I talk about the low calorie context, how a lot of foods are okay when your calories are low. Then we got into answering the questions. The first question was, are squats and lunges bad for your knees? So we talk all about squats and lunges, and we dispel the myth that they're both bad for the knees. The next question, this person wants to know if squatting on a Smith machine is beneficial. So a Smith machine is where a barbell is stuck on a track. You can do lots of exercise on it. Is it still good? Or should I stick to the free weights? The next question, apart from hand position, this person wants to know what the setups and executions are of the close grip bench press. Now the close grip bench press, one of the best exercises for your triceps. So if you want to try this one out, that exercise out, listen to this part of the episode because we describe how you should do it the right way. And the final question, this person wants to know all about net carbs. So if you're a low carb dieter, you may have noticed on your low carb products that rather than listing the total carbs, they list the net carbs. Is it wizardry? Is it baloney? Or is it good? Should you pay attention to that? Tom Fullery. Also, I want to remind everybody that one of our most popular and most effective fat burning programs, MAPS HIT is 50% off. Now HIT is an acronym. It stands for high intensity interval training. Now this style of training, when done properly, that's real important. You got to do it the right way. This style of training is the most effective for short term fat loss. So if you want to burn a lot more body fat in a shorter period of time, you want to follow a program that utilizes high intensity interval training. 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Include your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. What's rock? Doug, we got the, did you turn on the red light? Turn on the red light, Doug. No, no, no, no. Turn on the red light. Look, I let him on the mic one time. Doug Ig! No, no, no. Go ahead, though. You don't want to. You don't want to. You don't want to. You don't want to. You don't want to. You don't want to. It's a great song. Yeah. It's all about- Those days are over. Is that, uh, that's what's his name? It's, uh, Sting. Oh, it's, here comes, it's Stung. Stung? Stung. He's alive still. Sting? Like, to Sting. Does he tour? Yeah. Uh, yeah. He's doing like a, uh, a Broadway show. He's in Vegas now. The only reason I know that, cause I just went to one, like in San Francisco. You went to Sting's Broadway show? Not his. Not his. A different Broadway show? Yeah. What did you watch? Yeah. I watched, uh, I totally forget the name of it right now. Hamilton. Yeah. Uh, Hamilton's supposed to be good. It was, it was really good. Was it? Yeah. It was, it was very good. Now, was it like a professional? I'm not a theater guy. Yeah. Like, I'm not, I don't know why you're not. I would assume you are. You love performance. You love performing. Yeah. If it's really good, I guess that's, that's probably it. You know, if it's, if it's like cheesy and the whole things all campy, I'm not into it. But if it's like, you know, powerful and has like history and there's like everybody that performed in that play was amazing. You know, you know what show you would like? Uh, Les Miserables. Yeah. I've seen it. Oh, you have? Yeah. Powerful. It is. Such brilliant writing. Yeah. I love shows, man. I love going to shows because. Yeah, I know. Uh, because they, the, cause, cause sports are an industry, cause sports are uninteresting to you. Uh, no, sports are cool. They can play off weekend. I'm going to hit a play up. I don't watch shows for hours every Monday, Adam or Sunday. Whatever. Maybe you did when you had a fucking newborn. Huh? You get a pass when you have a newborn, bro. To watch sports all day. To watch anything all day. Oh yeah. I'll watch something all day. That's all you get to do. You know what I'm saying? I won't watch shows all day. I'm so excited. I could like start to kind of read to him right now. Like you can't even read to the kid like three months ago. So you just put them on the couch. Yeah. Just football day. Football day, dad. I'll watch the baby. Yeah. Kind of how it gets down right now. It is like so helpful. Only on Sunday. Niners. Woo. Wow, dude. Yes. Yeah. No, it's a, I'm excited for him, dude. I tell you what, there's some dethroning going on. I may watch the Super Bowl this time if they're there. No. Yeah, I probably will. So let's have a party. To continue that conversation. So XFL is February 8th. I think the Super Bowl is like the second or the fourth that weekend. Perfect. So they pick up on the 8th. So they like spring ball like right when you have that void where it's like the worst really sports. Yes. Well, that's their best chance. Totally. You know what I'm saying? No, I love that. I'll give it a go. I was just going to say, do you guys think you'll make time to watch it? Oh, I'll definitely at least watch a little bit to see if it's somewhat entertaining. Yeah. What it might, it may play out. Okay. So like it's really, if you don't make the NFL like it's really common, you go up to Canada or you go overseas and you play a Europe ball like so it may end up replacing that right or arena ball. Right. So those are kind of the three things that you go do if you don't make the NFL. That was kind of the thing with arena ball that annoyed me was just how different the rules and the way the game was played was, you know. Yeah. Very few guys. Weird. Very few guys come out of arena football and make the transition to NFL. Does anybody watch arena football? Sure. On TV? Probably live, not on TV. Oh, I would imagine. Yeah, I don't even know if it's broadcast. I mean, I'm sure now with everything streaming. Because XFL is mainstream. Aren't they trying to broadcast at mainstream? Yeah, they're trying. Yeah. There's lots of money going into it. A ton of money. Is it McMahon still? Yeah. Again, huh? Yeah, yeah. He's got so much money. He doesn't know what to do. Stupid money. Is he a billionaire? He's looking for projects. That's a good question. Maybe Doug can Google that. I'm sure he's a billionaire. He's got to be. Did I ever tell you guys about the time I saw him? And you know what? What goals? What constitutes a millionaire billionaire? Is it your net worth or your income every year? Net worth. It's net worth. Not how you're bringing home. No. No, it's net worth. Because it's because... It's not that hard to be a millionaire or, I mean, billionaire is still hard, right? But to have, oh, there he is. Look at 2.5. Yeah, he's a billionaire. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's net worth, see? Because very, very... Okay, so if you look at all the millionaires, quote unquote millionaires, there's a lot of accidental millionaires in the Bay Area. You know, old people who bought their homes. Right, right. San Jose, you know, 30 years ago. That's why I meant by that. Yeah, yeah, yep. And you're considered a millionaire then. You are. You are. A very small percentage of people, smaller, much smaller, of people who are millionaires and net worth actually earn a million dollars or more a year. That's a real small percentage. And then people who earn a billion dollars a year, that's a very small percentage. I mean, I don't even think, you're probably looking at like a few people who actually earn billion dollars a year. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I know. I told you guys, did I ever tell you when I saw Vince McMahon at Gold's lifting? Yeah, well, how'd that happen? I was, I mean, I was just working out and... He's a big boy, right? He's, I mean, he's old. Yeah. He's older. And so he lifts weight. You guys ever see an old school, like bodybuilder who's probably in their... Like you ever seen a bodybuilder in their 70s lift weights? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. It's light, it's focused. They're just trying to get a pump. Lots of strain on their face. Yeah, it's just they're trying to get a pump. That's kind of how he worked out. Like you could tell he's trained like a bodybuilder. How long ago was that? This was a couple of years ago, maybe. Is he in his 70s? Is that where he's at now? Vince McMahon is... I would think so. Yeah, he's got to be at least. Dude, you know who looks phenomenal? Who looks amazing for their age? Jane Fonda. Oh yeah. Oh my God. You're just now starting to watch that show or something? Grace and Frankie? Yeah. Great show, by the way. Yeah, Katrina loves that show. Yeah, do you watch it? Yeah, I've seen it. It's one of the shows that she plays when I'm like kind of doing something else if I'm working on the computer. Oh, it's hilarious. So, and I like it because I can hear it and it's got its comedy, right? So, Vince is 74. Yeah, she's the queen of the in-home workout. Well, so Jane Fonda in the movie plays a 70-year-old and she looks phenomenal for a 70-year-old. In reality, she's 82 years old. So, she looks so fucking good that on the TV show, she plays a 70-year-old and still looks good. Yeah, we can't make you 80. Nobody will connect with you. Yeah, so I was taught she's 82 years old, see that? 1937. Wow, look at her, too, dude. Wow, wow. So, I was talking to, because Jessica started watching the show and she's like, so you know what the premise is about the show, Justin? I don't know anything. Okay, so I'll tell you the premise. It's like two couples, they're friends. The wives are very different, kind of don't like each other, but whatever, the husbands are business partners, have been partners for years. They've all been married for over 40 years. When they retire, the husbands come to the wives and say, hey, we got news for you, we're gonna leave you because we're marrying each other. So, the men actually... Oh, wow. Yeah, and so, but it's this really well-written show. It's great. But anyway, I'm watching it with Jessica and, you know, I'm telling them like, man, Jane Fonda looks phenomenal and I'm like, you have no idea. I said, she's older than she plays in this show. She's like, no way. So, I looked it up and I said, look at how she moves. Look at her posture. Look at her mobility. She just never stopped, right? That's it. She's a fitness icon for decades. She was probably the biggest at-home fitness video, you know, selling person of all time. She's always been into nutrition. She's also been crazy. Meanwhile, where is Richard Simmons? Yeah. Okay. He's actually pretty good. I want to start the campaign all over again for him. Is he still MIA? No. Is he back? He's not... I haven't seen him anywhere. He's MIA. He was gone for a while. Like, people were worried about him. Dude, that guy made... Do you guys know how he made his first, like, millions? No. Do you guys remember his first product? Well, I just remember that, like... Yeah, he just did like some, like, fat, like... What was it like, burn the fat? Like, I forget what the name of the title of the video was. So, he made something called Deal-a-Meal. Oh, yeah, that's right. It was called Deal-a-Meal. Actually brilliant. And what it was was... Sweating to the oldies. That was what I was thinking of. That's later. Later on, he made fitness videos. Yeah, that's his videos, yeah. And he crushed with those. Yeah. But the way he started was with something called Deal-a-Meal. I think it was called Deal-a-Meal, if I'm not mistaken, Doug can look it up. And it were these cards that after you ate something from a portion that you were supposed to or whatever, you got the card and moved it over. So, basically, it was a very easy food tracking system. I did not know that. And he did very well with it. And then, of course, his advertising was phenomenal because he was a former obese person. Yeah. So, his commercials were him crying with, like, really obese people and being empathetic and whatever. Yeah, he's, like, hugging everybody. Oh, there it is. Deal-a-Meal. Look at that. And then being extra happy. You could still buy it. Yeah. Yeah, wow. What does it sell for? $120. Oh, wow. Now, the only reason, you know why I know this shit? Get one of those. You guys want to know why? We should get one of those. Because I loved the infomercials for some reason when I was a kid. Yes. I loved them. Really. Did you guys like them? I mean, I would watch them. Yeah. I loved them. Yeah, I got sucked in. You know what's funny? I was watching an infomercial. I caught myself late at night. I saw, you know who I saw? Hunter. What do you mean? Hunter from OCR. Our boy? Yeah. Where did you see him? I mean, what? He's got a new product out there with like, I don't know, it was like a beach body kind of a thing where they do like a Tough Mudder, like wrapped version of a group class. Oh, wow. Yeah. So he has a full infomercial, like late night thing, and it kept repeating over and over. And I was like, no way. All right. Can I tell you something about it? Is this a secret, secret like wish? I would love to be on an infomercial. No. Yes, I would. Yes, I would. I don't think you can make any money. I know. I don't know if they do anything anymore. You got to step up your cheese game, dude. But I would, maybe that's why I watched so many, you know, I liked doing sales and fitness, probably because I watched infomercials when I was a kid. Yeah. You know? So I was like, this is how you do it. You got to be extra campy, you know? I wonder where they get paid for that. I think they convinced, it's the same idea, I think it's like they're getting you in magazines and stuff like convince all these young guys that are girls that, you know, it's amazing and you get to be famous because you're on TV. Bro, it's like a stepping stone, you know? It's like to acting and all that kind of stuff. I think they still make a lot of money. No, I don't. I think they do. No. I don't think they make as much as they used to. I'll ask Hunter. I'll ask George. I'll guarantee he didn't make shit from that. Hardly anything. Well, you remember George Foreman? That was back when, before Internet... Bro, he made a fucking money because he had the product. Yeah, he owned it. He owned, yeah, he owned the forming. Oh, you don't think he owned... I'm sorry, you don't think Hunter owns? I don't. Of course not. I don't. I wouldn't think so. Of course not. Tough Mudder is the real brand. When you're talking about like Richard Simmons who made a product, that's totally different. Yeah, they owned it. For sure different. Somebody like Hunter or what you see a lot of times, especially with fitness, I mean, I think 90 plus percent of all the fitness people you see on the infomercials, they're caught, the program, everything is bought. And then you go out and you seek somebody who fits the description and then you throw him in, right? So, yeah, I don't think he makes any money. Dude, speaking of fitness, so you know that book you sent or recommended to Jessica? Yeah. Was it Purpose Driven Life? Yes. Okay. There was a segment in there, and this, believe me, this goes back to fitness. There was a segment in there where he was talking about whether or not you're, when you're communicating to people, are you doing so with the intent to impress or are you doing so with the intent to influence? Very, very different things. And it made me think about the fitness space and how often trainers and fitness professionals and education, even educational companies, sometimes it sounds like they're just trying to impress their clients or impress the people around them by all the stuff they know and how smart they are, but they do such a terrible job of actually influencing people and getting people to, you know, to change how they are, you know what I'm saying? Or to adopt new behaviors. I thought about this. I thought, God, this applies to everything. Like anytime you have communication with your wife or your friends or you're at a party, are you trying to just impress, in which case you can kind of come off as pretentious, not effective, or are you truly trying to influence? What a completely different way of communicating. Well, that's a, John C. Maxwell says that all leadership is, is influenced, right? So if you're, if you're influencing people, you're a leader. If you're not, you're not a leader. Just think it's that simple. And it made me think about like the difference between like NCI and other online, like nutritional courses. Like when you look at the other courses, it's shit tons of just information, lots of science, lots of information. And we did all the homework. Yeah. And if, if you learn that as a trainer and you just learn tons of information, you're going to go back and probably impress your clients, but you're not going to have a very, you're not going to do a very good job influencing them because you haven't learned how to, how to really communicate things. How do you communicate that information, right? How do you influence people? That's why I like NCI, Well, that was one of the things that we connected with Jason, right? When we first met Jason a couple of years back was that, you know, it's, it's one thing, we meet a lot of smart people, right? But when you meet somebody who's really smart, they're comfortable with how smart they are and understanding nutrition and fitness. And then they care more about the application of it and how people receive it and teach it aside from like just coming off as, oh, I'm a smart guy. I know my information. And we always connect extra. I think we connect with those people and that was somebody, somebody like Jason, when we first met him, you could tell right away. And so it speaks into his programming and stuff that they've done over there at NCI. So it's a good job. Hey, did I hear you say this morning when you came in that you got in a confrontation or something? Did I hear you right? Yeah, no, edgy this morning. No, no, no, I was fine. It was this weekend. So I'm, I'm driving Katrina's car and we're, I'm over at the grocery store. You know, it's funny in, in California, maybe this is a state thing, a country thing. I don't know. But like when you go to like Europe, and I've heard this about New York, even though I've not been to New York, but like the horn is like a courtesy. Like you go to, if you go to your, anywhere in Europe and like people, you're right, you're right. It's like you're letting someone know I'm merging over. I'm close to you. And yeah, it's not as personal. Yeah. Everybody honks. Everywhere you go. Everybody honks. It's kind of like, like all the time it's just like, get letting you know I'm merging in or you almost got me there. We're totally, but in California, like you lay the horn. It's like, it's like the finger. It's like the finger. It really is. And I've never been that way. Maybe and maybe that's because I've been over there before and I'm like, Oh, that's a smart way to use it. Like just kind of letting people know, right? And you know, I back her car and to the spot and as I'm doing it, I also see this guy who's backing up. And I don't, I don't think he saw that I moved into the spot behind him. And he's moving back pretty quick. And I see that he's not slowing up and he's getting closer and closer. And I just kind of hit the horn. I don't hit my car. Yeah, yeah. Let him know that I'm back there and dude throws it in park, takes the seatbelt off, gets out and I'm like, Oh, this dude's going to get out. No, we didn't. Swear to God, dude. Swear to God. You're eating a fisticuffs. Yeah. And I don't know if it's the older, older me or what like that. Like it doesn't even round me up. I just get like a big smile on my face. Slowly roll my window down, lean my head on it. Oh, hey guy. And I said, hey, that was a courtesy honk guy. I said, you want me to get out though? No, yes, I did. And he looked at me and he just would be back in his car. Oh, yeah. It's like, come on guy. I couldn't believe he got out of his car over that. It was literally like one little honk. It was he was backing up towards my car. Old man or her car. No, he was only about maybe he, maybe he had 10 years on me. So we weren't that far off. So it's like 50. Yeah. That's like the cusp. That's that's right. When men, old men, you know, start that attitude. Grouchy. Yeah. Yeah. Like really, it's really like, yeah, you could tell he was like, and I wasn't, I wasn't even on that. Like there's times, trust me when I get angry driving, when people cut off, do this and I've had road rage before, but I wasn't even in that space. It was just, I backed up. I know I kind of, I moved into a spot pretty quick. This dude was backing up and, you know, you don't want to back, I don't want him to back into her car. Oh my God. He just reminded me of a story. You want to hear, you want to hear old, like old rage, old people rage. So in Italy, this was one of my cousins. I guess, so the house is in Sicily, at least where my family lives, they're fucking close to each other. And there's different floors on the building and there's families that live on each floor and some people don't have air conditioning. And so windows are open and it's loud and whatever. And I guess this lady who lived like across the street from one of my cousins, and this is my cousin, keep in mind was 70. Okay. And the lady that I'm talking about was also in her 70s. And I guess this lady was across the street was fighting with her husband and yelling and yelling and the windows are all open. It's not, it's nighttime, you know, so everybody hears everything. So finally, my cousin was yelling back, shut up, you know, and they're like, fuck you. And then she keeps fighting with her husband, you know, and then you're fucking keeping us up and then back and forth or whatever. So my cousin lost her shit, got in her husband's three wheels. So my, her husband sold fruit in these, they're these like trucks with three wheels. And if you've ever seen them, so like they're small trucks, but there's one wheel in the front, two in the back and they carry like baskets and shit of fruit or whatever you sell them. So it's, it's a lambretta. It's called right. So she got in that fucking thing and rammed it into their garage. And then yes, and then got out. So then the other woman got out of her, got out, got, went downstairs, got in her husband's fucking lambretta and rammed into my cousin's garage. No, this is the truth. No, this happened like 15 years ago. So they, they ran, they rammed into each other's garages. Then they went out down and they started fighting and the husbands had to pull them off of each other. There's 70 something year old Italian women losing their shit. Oh my God, it's hilarious. The police shows up and everybody just thought it was so funny that they did that. And their neighbors, they live across the street from each other. See, I gotta get them pulled so they could like joust. In Texas, it's okay, right? Right? What do you mean? Yeah, Texas has got that new law, right? Where you can, it has to be mutual. That's mutual. You get out, you ram your shit into my garage. I ram yours, it's fucking on dude. That's even, that's as even as it gets. Yeah, that's as even as it gets right there. You have one black eye, you have one black eye, you guys are even. Yeah, no one's going to jail. Okay, end of story. We're all good. Anyway, speaking of crazy stuff, did you guys see Gwyneth, you know, you guys know Gwyneth Paltrow as a company? I was going to bring this up, dude. Yeah, I saw the same exact thing. So Goop is her company, right? And she's fucking makes tons of money on this. Yeah, she just sells like beauty products and not and like and bullshit health products. Yeah, exactly. Like, anyways, like lots of that stuff. And so, I guess like she's selling the candle and sold out sold out. Can you guess what the smell of it was? Yeah, the type of smell? Yeah, because she's came out with a candle with a specific scent. Okay, that's sold out. What? What was that? Icebreaker. It's a vagina. Stupid. It is not. Yes, it is vagina. You lie to me right now. No, we're not lying. Is it true story? Yeah, Google it, Doug, show Adam the craziness. First of all, she sold the candle. That smells like her. Accurate. And it's what's it titled? What's it called? Second of all, can be called my vagina. Is it a vagina on a good day? Candle says after running, the selling vagina sell scented candle and it's already sold out. Yeah, I want to see what the name of this good point, Adam, like, what is it called? Yeah, what do you call it? Is it sparkly? Like, it's a 75 questions I have. It's a $75 candle. Yeah, that smells like it's sold out. So what's funny is, so I was paying attention to this right in like I was following this guy. I think his name's Adam Ray as a comedian. And he tweeted out about, you know, this is they might as well have, you know, the rock have a candle smelling like his balls, right? Sell out. He'll probably sell out. So the rock like responded. And now they're like both talking with each other, trying to see if they can make this work. Like, like sell a candle that smells like the rocks balls. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is that real right there? Doug, the, wait, hold on. It's said there that the name of the candle, is that a picture of it, Doug? Yes, it says this smells like my vagina. Oh my God. Well, you know, I've always thought about this, right? It's probably, you've always thought about this. No, no, no, I've always thought about, I've said this before, like as a celebrity, if you like, especially like, okay, think of the rock, think of, and you know that you can make molds of your own dick, right? All right. Imagine how much money he would make if he sold a mold of his dick. Chocolate buttholes. Two. Well, just random chocolate buttholes is different though. I mean, if it's a celebrity's chocolate, if it's a celebrity, no, no, good point. Yeah. If it's something like that, but I think like that would just, you would make so much money. Well, it's, it's okay. So there was, who is that one influencer who sold her bathwater and sold a shit ton of them? What? Yeah. There was this one Instagram celebrity or YouTube celebrity girl. We need to get more creative. And she sold, we're not that big bro. We talked to marketing team. Yeah. We're not the, we'll maybe sell one. Stupid. Yeah. Look right there. Oh, Belle DeFine, she sold her bathwater for $30 a jar. It's because she's like supposedly attractive and, you know, boys or whatever, you know, she's like weirdo freaking out. So what kind of people, let's think of it. What kind of people would buy a, a vagina smelling or a Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina smelling? I would. Can't why? Yeah. I would just the novelty of purely out of curiosity. You want to know what her vagina smell like? Purely out of curiosity. Yes. I mean, at least the formulation, at least one time. Would I be, would I be a repeat customer? Yeah. I don't know. Be at somebody's house that's burning it. But I'm just curious to like, how do you do that? And what, would I like it? Like, would it be when I light it up and like, this is really nice. Or could I light it with my mom's over and family's over and then like be like, what is that smell? Yeah. Yeah. That smells familiar. Thanksgiving. It'd be a hilarious joke, right? It's very vagina-y in here. Yeah. What's her next range? Grandpa's hella happy all day. Yeah. God, Sunday's house smells amazing. It could also be guys who get it to cover shit up. You know what I mean? Like girl comes home and she's like, Oh yeah. What the fuck? Oh, it's the candle. Yeah. That didn't bang. There was no chicks in there. Dude, no, no, no, no. That's- I have vagina candle. You know? Yeah. That's not other- What's the second candle going to be that she's going to put out? Her poop? Well, Her fart? I mean- I didn't even know this was that. I could, I can't- I thought you guys were pulling my leg. That's- I think that's going too far, Sal. That's some serious, I tell you what, okay, let's step back for a second. Okay, whatever, fine. Let's go, let's take a little, let's take a backwards journey for a second. How did she make that? Yeah. Well, that's what I mean, like the formulation process. Look at the ingredients though. What are the ingredients? It's geranium, citrus seed, bergamot, and cedar. And cedar. So it, you know, it smells nothing like it. I'm sure unless that's what she puts on it. Yeah. That's- Her vagina smells like a plastic. So it's cedar. Okay, so it's like a total spoof then. It's not really, it's just a normal candle and she puts it- It's a normal candle. She's just trolling. She's claiming that it smells like a brilliant, so. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Okay, so if it did smell, I was going to say, because the process might have been funny, what does she have like? Right. She has like scientists, smell scientists come. Like bacteria cultures. Analyze her, they do the thing, and they come back, they compare the two. Yeah. Oh, it's the wrong day, come tomorrow, because today it's a different smell, I mean. What, what, what a brilliant, brilliant marketing scheme though. Yeah, well she- I mean look at all the, I'm sure we're not the only ones viral, yeah. Her company makes a shit, you know her podcast is one of the top health podcasts on iTunes, and I tell you something right now. It's terrible. And I tell you, her health advice is- Can we go through some of her claims? She's claimed so many like wacky things. Yeah, borderline crazy, and sometimes dangerous, usually just useless information that doesn't really have any, any value. Yeah. Usually. Wow. Anyway. This guy's- Wow. We know Adam will buy one. Buy? Yeah. Well now I wouldn't though, because now it's like- It's just a regular candle. Oh, hold on a sec. You wouldn't buy it because it doesn't smell like her vagina. Yeah. I mean real talk. Adam would get a refund? Yeah, yeah. I want my money. I want my money, but this smells like pussy. This smells like my grandma's house. Yeah. You tricked me. Liar. Liar. You imagine finding that candle when you're a 14 year old. Her vagina doesn't smell like Christmas tree. No way. Yeah. Could you imagine as a 14 year old boy you find this candle, it totally makes you think some shit, you know what I mean? You find it like, oh my God, this is what it smells like. Yeah, then it ruins it for you for every other girl, but it doesn't smell like that. It smells nothing like that. Man. This is bullshit. That candle that my dad, Adam had. Anyways. Hey, speaking of sex talk though, I was thinking about you this weekend, Sal. Wow. Wow. That's a loaded statement right there. Hey, whatever. I'll take it as a compliment. No, no, I saw questions around you, trying for a baby and all that stuff like that. And, you know, it got me thinking. I thought, you know, I wanted to sell. Are you sure you want to have a kid, dude? Am I sure? Yeah. Are you sure? Yes, dude. That is not a decision that I make. Did you? I mean, I know it's been a long time since you have a kid. You guys should have a sleepover. Yeah, you should. No, I should. I have two kids. I went through it. I know. I don't know. I feel like you recently. I feel, yeah, I feel like you guys must forget. You know what I'm saying? Well, you're in the middle of the shit right now. So to be fair, if you have, if they want to know the kid before their kid is like three years old, sorry, they're going to be like, I don't know. Yeah, probably not. Right. Yeah. The sex thing is, you know, you remember that, what's that old wise tale that if you, you know, if you put a marble in a jar for every time you have sex before you get married and then after you get married, if you take a, You'll never empty the jar. You'll never empty the jar or whatever. I don't think that's true. I think, I don't think the marriage thing has to do. I think it has to do with kids. Oh, for, Totally. I think the kid thing is what fucks that whole interrupter. That math. Of course. I'm like, no, I think if Katrina, just us, Katrina and I going down in the wedding, going down to chapel. The ultimate cock block. Who would not have slowed things down. The kid, 100%. Yeah, yeah. But the one positive side of what I'm finding, so sex is either, it's almost non-existent, but when it does happen, it's either awful or epic. Oh yeah, yeah. It's either built up like, ah, or, okay, we got to do this. Or it's like your timing thing, right? It's like, you know, hurry up, hurry up. We got five minutes here, you know what I'm saying? You can make that fun. I heard a noise. You can make that fun too. Fun is, no. You got to get a little rough with that one. Fast one. Yeah, but even that can get ruined by a crying baby too early or whatever like that. Oh yeah. So that's terrible. That's instant killer. Yeah, no. Oh man. Epicness happens when like all the stars align and you're both not exhausted. He gets to bed early and on time and he's sleeping hard and you know he's out for at least four minimum hours and it's like, oh yeah, it's go time. You have to mentally be okay with it because it's just thinking. It doesn't change until later. It's like two or three years of that and then after about two or three years then it starts to come back a little bit usually. Yeah. But in the beginning because he's so needy. Yeah. You know what I mean? You have to tend to him so often that of course that's, you know, it's funny. You're the one that used to talk about you couldn't have. Oh no, I can't keep up with her. Oh yeah. It is funny how that shifts. That's definitely shifted the other way around. It's I do find myself chasing for it now. Same old story. Which I know. I know you warned me. You said, oh, I remember, bro. It'll never happen. Don't worry. Don't worry. It happens. Yeah. You don't want to listen to that wisdom. Yeah. You need immune to it. She talks. You know what the other thing that's bullshit too is you can't touch the boobs when they look awesome and filled up with milk. I mean, that's stupid. Nobody tells you these things. You know what I'm saying? Nobody told me that. You didn't know that? No, I didn't know that. You thought they were going to be like before? You could do whatever you want? Yeah, pretty much. No. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you guys never warned me of that. You never said like, oh, her boobs are going to be amazing. It's going to be full of milk, but you can't touch them. Nobody said that. She said that, bro. No, they're feedbacks now. Nobody said that to me. I swear to God, I'm going to write a book just to help for all these dudes that are thinking about having kids. Sex after kids. Yeah. Let me tell you, let me give you some information. Nobody shared the real deal. Number one, it's less. Yeah. Pretty much plays out that way every time. Yeah, but you got to do, this is the thing. When you have kids, it becomes spontaneous sex. Because here's the thing. I think couples, they develop this expectation that they're going to always be able to have lots of spontaneous sex. Because when you're a couple and you don't have kids, sex is almost never planned. It's always spontaneous. Like, we're in the mood. Oh my God, I'm horny. Whatever. We had a couple drinks. Spontaneous sex, you could pretty much fuck it off until your kids are way older. It's going to have to be planned. And if you can't wrap your mind around that. Create events for it. Yeah. If you can't write your mind. It can't be too obvious. You have to. You have to plan it. That's what I've had to learn. It's literally like, I know couples who literally plan, you know, Friday nights. It's our time to be together. Yeah. And that's probably when we'll have sex, if we're going to have sex. Yeah. It's the only time that we... You start to get into theater. Yeah. What? Well, now, and now we're the nerdy parents too that do that, which I always thought was so annoying, but I'm now them. Like, you get it now when it happens to you where, you know, we're so amazed at like everything he does. Like... Do you find yourself telling people? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's looking at me now. No, no, no. I mean, like really looking at me. You know what I'm saying? In my eyes. I'm like, he's like, oh, he's like, he's like doing stupidest things. Oh, he's reaching. He's reaching out for things, you know what I'm saying? Pee on. Yeah. Look at it. Look how he reckoned. He knows my voice now. You know, it's just... Now, are you checking yourself with stuff like this? Like when he does certain things? Of course. Are you finding yourself going like, you know, to Katrina like, I think he's advanced. Oh, totally. I think he might be brilliant. Of course. Of course you think your son is like so advanced. I mean, I'm already bragging about like, so he's premature, right? So, he's four weeks early. you know, when you do the doctor checkup, you're the likelihood that you're going to be in the hundred percentile are ahead on like all of his growth. Like he's like- He's lower. Yeah, he's lower. Because he started earlier. Yeah. And he just, he broke the hundred percentile for height like this last month, like he exposed. So he's been, every checkup he's been like- Word number one. 50% everything, he hits a hundred percent height now. I'm like, oh yes, honey, we have an MBA start. It's like, yeah, you catch yourself doing all that. I remember when my son was a baby, I think he was like five months old. He made this sound with his mouth, but it sounded like he said a word and I just wanted to believe so bad that he could talk. Like, oh yeah, he said, no, no, he said something. Like, yeah, it sounded like he just- Yo, Katrina does it already right now. He's calling daddy. I can tell. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. I thought for sure, yeah, my kid could read like way early. Like, and he, because we drive by like trucks and it, you know, and he'd be like bread and he'd point at it. And it's just because he saw the picture of the bread. And it said like something bread. And I was like, oh my God, he's a genius. I'm so nervous. That is crazy. Dude, did you guys, are you guys Rush fans? Big Rush fans? Yeah, of course. Tom Sawyer. Yeah, I mean, somewhat, but I greatest drummer all time. All time. One of the best. All time. I was, as a kid, the first time I heard Rush, I was I think 16 years old. And that was really around the time I started getting into classic rock. So at 16, I found, what is it? 1077 over here in the Bay Area, that station. Yeah. And I just, that's it. Classic rock became my favorite rock. It still is my favorite rock. And then I found Rush. And I absolutely loved Rush. Had no idea what the lyrics meant. I think a lot of people don't know what their lyrics mean because their lyrics, there's so many of them in their songs. You just like, like, pelt you with them. Yeah, but little did I know, later on I learned that Rush, and in particular Neil Pert, were so pro-individualism. They were very, if you listen to that, in fact, if you listen to the lyrics of some of their songs, like The Trees or the whole album, 21, I think it's what, was it 2112? That whole album was about individualism, which is like, you know, take care of yourself. It's kind of like libertarianism type of deal. Pretty interesting. He was this huge, free, freedom advocate, but he also happened to be one of the greatest drummers of all time. Didn't they get their big break from a radio station that the guy kind of went out and then just put a record on it. It was their record. They thought it was Led Zeppelin. Working Man. Yeah, Working Man just played, and it was a long song, right? Yeah, there was a, back in those days, DJs, they would put on a long song when they had to go to the bathroom because they couldn't pause or whatever. So he just saw the longest album he had there, which was Working Man, put it on, and then he started getting all these calls and everybody was like, what's the new album by Zeppelin? And he's like, it's not Zeppelin, it's Rush. But you know, Working Man was done before Neil Perk. He joined them a little bit later. Have you guys ever seen his solos on YouTube? No. Oh, dude. I don't know how someone's hands can move that way so fast. He just passed, right? Week two ago? He did. Cancer. Yeah, brain cancer. How old? 67. Wow, young. Yeah, young. But if you look up some of his solos on YouTube, it doesn't make sense how somebody can move shit that fast with that many drums going around them, knowing what to do, it's just... Yeah, that seems like a lost art. Like if you go to concerts, you just don't see like the solos, like the drum solos, the guitar solos. Like, you know, there's only a few bands out there that can pull it off still. It's because you have to have real talent. Yeah, you gotta have hardcore... Musicianship. Yeah, I don't think that exists as much, does it? No, I totally don't see it. I mean, and I'm looking all the time for really good new music, and you know, it's out there, and you just have to look even harder these days, this all. Dude, you know what I had this weekend that I haven't had for ever? That I forgot how amazing they are? Buffalo wings. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I just saw that meme for the guy who gets into bar fights still in like mid-40s or whatever, like Starter Kit. It's like a flexion shirt, buffalo wings, Bud Light, and something else that I don't remember. Yeah. It's just like a picture in that guy. Yeah, it's totally like the sports guy, right? Like, that's the buffalo wing, like, you know, like get the sauce all over your face, guy. Haven't had him forever. We were eating dinner with my brother and my sister, and we were, you know, I'm trying to go Keto right now, just for the anti-inflammatory effects or whatever. So the warring appetizers, and the only thing that was like, that was okay was wings. Haven't had them forever. Fucking destroyed them. Now, you're a spicy wing guy, you're just kind of like a mild. No, dude, I like them spicy, bro. Yeah. They're so good. Speaking of wings, you know, Butcher Box, that's what their giveaway is this month. Wings? Yes. Wings, I think, is it Wings for Life, Doug? I don't even know. Look it up, is it like? Yeah, Wings for Life. Wings for Life? Yeah. Oh, wait, it says right there, three pounds of chicken wings in every box for the life of your subscription. Oh, that's a great promotion. So I got one for you because you just got introduced to the air fryer. Do your, do those wings in the air fryer. What? Fire. And spice them up, dude. What do you do? Just season them? Yeah, put them in. I don't do them. Katrina does them. Oh, okay. I'll ask her later. Yeah, yeah. Just ask me like that. Now, would you guys ever do, ever seen that show, Hot Ones? Yeah. I love that show, by the way. So it's super clever. They start out with like a really mild kind of a sauce and then they work their way up and meanwhile he's interviewing the person there and it's hilarious because you could just see, you know, this visceral reaction once they start getting up in the high heats. No, there's a place in San Jose, I think it's called Kliku. Yeah. And they have- Oh, by Santa Clara University. They have a challenge that if you can eat their wings, then you get, I don't remember what you get and my brother tried it and my brother has a crazy tolerance for spicy food and he said he had to sign a bunch of liability waivers and you know, on video had to, like say, I agreed to this or whatever and he ate two. Dude. He said it was so hot that you just touched the sauce to your lips and you fucking, that would wreck me for a couple of days. It's like, I don't know if it'd be worth it. You know, like I probably get like halfway there if I did that show, probably get like halfway. I don't know if I could keep going. No, I ate Indian food once like that. I went with my buddy, he was Indian and he went in the back and they had, they had Indian cooks and he started speaking to them in their language or whatever and he comes out and he's like, oh boy, it's gonna be good. You just wait. And he came out and the sauce was like paste. It was so full of whatever. Yeah, I can't handle that. And I got asthma. So I had to actually, no, I'm not bullshitting. I actually got asthma. I had to go home and use my inhaler. From all the spices? Yes. Wow. Cause it was so fucking hot. That's crazy. Did you guys see Tesla on the ticker this morning? Oh, here we go. I know this guy. Who's not crushing right now? This is supposed to be a point. The stock market is like all time highs, everything bro. Tesla, not that impressive. Tesla, right as of the. It's a steroid bull. Recording of this podcast went up 41 points at 519 all time high. It's the highest share price it's ever had. I don't think it's worth that much. Do you watch the ticker that often? I look at it, you know I'm on that group thread with my cousins and all the other investors. So yeah, because they'll say something and then I'll go check. When I first started investing in stocks, I remember like crazy, right? Like you first put your couple bucks in there and it's like you're watching all the time. I stopped completely. Like if I make a decision that I'm gonna invest in something, I put it in it and then I'm like. Well, that's how you're gonna invest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Obviously if you're a day trader or you're making moves aggressively, which I don't do. Neither do I. Yeah, so if I buy into something, it's because I believe in the company and I plan to be in it for a long time. And regardless of where it goes over the next 30 to 90 days, I'm not selling. So why, and so I have to train myself to like not watch. Otherwise you have like this up and down roller coaster feeling all the fucking time. You have to detach, otherwise you're gonna suck as an investor. That's what I do. I invest and I leave it. Now I have my ex-brother-in-law. He, just what he does basically for a living is he trades. That's how he makes most of his money. And he trades daily and he trades options. He says that's where the money is made. Options and futures. That's one of my best friends. Yeah, I wouldn't even fuck with that. Way too, I'm very conservative, put it in there, leave it or whatever. But yeah, Tesla, there's no way. Dude, Tesla's worth way more than like GM, Ford, all those. $519 a share right now. Wow, whoa. Because they, I told you guys, I've said this already, Tesla does not trade like a traditional car company. They trade like a freaking startup tech company. You know what I mean? It's all like promises and dreams. It's Elon. A little scary too. Speaking of promises and dreams, like have you seen this company that's coming out of DNA Nudge? So this company is basically like, you're going to the grocery store and you wear this arm band that actually like scans the product and tells you like a green or a red light or an orange light, like which one is best matched to your DNA profile. No way. Yeah, so your food? Yeah, you do like a cotton swab or whatever and then you send it off to this company and they kind of evaluate like what has the most beneficial type foods for you. They create this list and so you go in and you have like an app and all that, but like it's crazy like what they're promising with this thing. Stupid. I was getting into it. I'm like, okay, this is legit or like there's just so much with these startup companies that they have to kind of show that's just wizardry. You know, it's like we got all this working perfectly and you know that like there's just gonna be so many holes in that, that entire thing. So here's why it's bullshit. Number one, the science is far from the point where it can actually do that. How can you pinpoint that? It's far from because. Well, it's ever changing. That's why too. Other genes can express themselves differently. They can change depending on the environment and context. And not only that, but even if the genes were just stationary and stuck, we don't have enough information yet. Wow, look at that. To determine how it's gonna work. Here's a second reason. It looks like a lot of money behind this thing. Oh yeah. For sure. But again, the science isn't supported. Plus here's the second reason why it's bullshit. It completely takes out the most important part of nutrition, which is the psychological piece. So you could, the DNA thing can tell you all day long if it's good or bad, but if you don't like it or it's an enjoyment thing or you're stressed or anxious, you have different relationships to that food, you might as well, it's a total novelty. It sounds just like a Silicon Valley executive coming up with the idea for nutrition. It's like, here's how we'll solve this problem. I'll give you a good example. So it reminds me actually of something that I wanted to bring up is foods can be bad or good oftentimes, depending on the context of whether or not you're in a high calorie diet or a low calorie diet. So for example, saturated fat, lots of bad, press around it for a long time. In the context of a very high calorie diet, the odds that saturated fat is gonna be bad for you're far higher than if your calories were low. Same thing with sugar. This is what fuels the macro counters is that you actually have studies showing that a diet that's high in sugar but low in calories doesn't have nearly the negative effects than a high sugar, high calorie diet. Context makes a big difference. So a DNA tracking watch doesn't even take that into consideration. Total, yeah, the science does not support it at this point. And then I'm just, I guess I'm just skeptical hippo over here with like people collecting your DNA, like what, you know, like an, oh, we're gonna get rid of it, you know, like we promise. It's like, yeah. What happened to our buddy that was doing all that stuff? With Neutrino? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't talked to him in a long time. I have to see how far along they are in their process. Because what they were, they were using multiple different. That was different. They were doing all kinds of stuff. I liked them because they were adding a lot of different platforms out there, like people that, like everything from HRV to like stool samples, like every different company, they were kind of like adding that in and aggregating PIs. They were aggregating all that information and then from there making it. Unless they were in one hub for your own personal hub. And they were using those glucose monitors, the real-time glucose monitors. That's very valuable information, you know? That's why I'm interested. You should reach out to him and spend a while so we can talk to him. Yeah, I'll hit him up. First question is from Jules Tealman. Are squats and lunges bad for your knees? That depends. Depends on, a lot of it depends on your form and your technique and your muscle activation and control and stability. And some of it depends on your knees. Now, for most people, this is based on my own experience. I'd love to hear you guys' input. I would say probably no joke, 90% of the time squats and lunges bothered a client's knees. It had to do with muscle imbalances, form, stability, control. One out of 10 times, it actually had to do with their knees themselves. That their knees had an issue or whatever. This is where the box squats came in and we talked about the other day. This is a lot of times when you show a client how to squat and they don't know how to squat and they just try and mimic what you did, the first thing that you see is they bend their knees let their knees go travel really far forward until they can't travel anymore and then what stops it is the pain. Yeah, they're not had no hip involvement. Yeah, very little bit of the hip hinging back and so they feel all the stress in their knees. So yeah, no, of course, you take that ankle mobility to its end range of motion and then the stress runs right up into the patella and that's why they feel that. So that's where the box squat came out as a really good tool, not just for power lifters who are trying to increase their squat, but also for trainers trying to teach good mechanics to a client that feels squats in their knees. Also to that point, reverse lunges is what I teach for people that feel stress in their knees from lunging because when you lunge forward, the same thing happens. You take a step forward. Get that forward travel. Yeah, that forward travel, they have their weight traveling over the top of their knee then their knee goes over their toe and then again, it goes right to that in range of ankle mobility and then it feels like also and you feel the stress in the knee and you take somebody and you tell them to stand upright and then step back into a reverse lunge, you're going the opposite direction that causes that and then all of a sudden they have no pain in their knee. So it's not squatting or lunging is what causes you to have bad knees or you have bad knees because of those things or they're bad for your knees. It's that your mechanics are off and that we need to work on that. Even speaking to that 1% because I have had a client that like didn't have ligaments like you know, tore their ACL like was completely devoid of you know, stability in that direction. But in terms of like everyday functional activities and doing things like, like tell me a situation where you're not gonna have to like kind of squat down or get up from a chair or toilet or split your stance and you know, and drop down a little bit, pick things up. Like it is to their benefit to still try to pursue like certain ranges of motion so they can have you know, an able lifestyle. Like and I think that this whole, you know, red taping over a lot of exercises like that is such bad information to then push on to the patients. Yeah, so you know, squats and so this was prevalent for a while. I don't know if you guys remember. No, I was guilty of this. But no, did you guys- I was guilty of avoiding lunges and squats to clients and be like, oh, that bothers my knees. Okay, let's go over to leg extensions and fucking leg curls and leg press instead. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It was not that long ago that it was actually a widespread myth that lunges and squats were bad for, you'd actually hear trainers say that. Now here's the deal. Bad squats and bad lunges are bad for your knees. They're also bad for your hips and ankles and back. Good squats and good lunges are not just not bad for your knees, they're amazing for your knees. If you want knees that'll last you for the rest of your life with good mobility, stability and strength, you know, with much, much lower risks of injury, do good squats and good lunges and do them forever. Well, because you train the muscles that are supporting those joints. Activating the muscles and getting them involved so it disperses the force. So it doesn't just stop there. Well, you get an example like, so I remember when I tore my MCL and ACL and the, when I was doing rehab, they're like so blown away on the stability that I still had in my knee. And they said like, that was due to all the muscle that I had built around. I had built so much muscle around my knees from, you know, training squats and all the major exercises that when I even had lost my ligaments that I was still very supported. And we know that the knee is like floating and it's mostly getting its support from those ligaments. You lose those ligaments and then you'd be all over the place. Unless you've done a really good job of building a lot of muscle around there to help support and aid that. Well, we need to get away from the notion that the joints of the body are like, like a machine that you would have. For example, if you look at your, your shocks on your car or you look at a joint on a door, the more you move it, the more it wears down and eventually over time. If you keep doing that, it'll degrade. The body isn't like that. The body adapts. It actually gets stronger through use. It, not only does it regenerate, but it adapts to become stronger. So if you want bad knees, what's, which one would cause worse knees? Not moving at all and just laying down, that's it, or doing good squats, laying down, laying down would cause terrible degeneration of the joints. You would actually lose function within a very short period of time if you did that. So the human body's not like a, like everyday machines and moving parts on certain things. As you move things the right way, the body adapts and actually makes it stronger and able to move better and move more. You know, the example that I talked about at the beginning of the episode of Jane Fonda, when you watch her on TV at 82 years old, squatting, walking, moving, good posture, it's not because she didn't squat and didn't lunge. It's not because she sat down and let her joints stay fresh and didn't move them. It's because she moved them. The body adapted by making them stronger, producing more fluid in between the joints, strengthening cartilage, strengthening legaments and the joints themselves. Movement is good for you. It's good movement that you need to focus on. So if your knees hurt you from doing squats and lunges, it's probably not because you have bad knees. It's probably because you can't squat and lunge properly. But a good regression for trainers that are listening to this for clients that don't have the mechanics yet or still working on it, that's where the box squat and the reverse lunge, I think are very valuable. So day one, you're trying to teach those movements, clients, ah, my knees, I can't do those. Okay, we'll try a reverse lunge, try a box squat. And you should, I mean, most those people are getting up and down from a toilet, they're getting up and down from their car, they're getting up from a chair at dinner table, like, so they can squat, you know what I'm saying? They can go down. The problem is when you ask them to do it in the gym setting, their mechanics are awful. And one of the things that will help them with their squatting will be the box squats and that will help them with their lunging is a reverse lunge instead of a forward lunge. Next question is from Chrissy Cobb. Is squatting on a Smith machine still beneficial if your gym doesn't have a free weight squat rack? Yeah, you know, we make a lot of fun of the Smith machine. But the reality is it does have some value, especially if you don't have access to a squat rack, or you can, you know, take a barbell off a rack and do exercises. So nothing inherently wrong with a squat machine, it's just not as good as a free weight version of the exercise. But here's what I'll say about it. I don't like squats on a Smith machine. It doesn't work well with squats because because the bar travels on a fixed path, it ends up looking like you're doing a squat on a sled with your feet in front of your body, which is that's okay too. I'll say this, if you're gonna use a Smith machine, do stationary lunges. Stationary lunges on a Smith machine, far better than squats on a Smith machine. What do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, I could see the lunge argument with that because you could create like a more vertical path and a lunge sort of, you know, bodes a little bit more well with that direction. But I honestly think like a hack squat machine or like some other kind of machine, I think would bring more value than even, you know, a Smith machine squat. I just don't, I feel like it almost creates the worst patterns when you go then to create when you get to like an actual squat rack where you're doing free motion like type movements with that, so. Well, this is an area that I know that we have our peers in our space that there's quite a few that are friends of ours disagree with us in this. And that's just, I mean, that's just personal preference. I too wouldn't coach on it. I just think there's, and here's the thing, it's not that I think it's so bad and that I think that somebody can't use it and have great benefits. It's that as a trainer, I can think of a lot of other things that I can do instead of it. Like I would do a dumbbell goblet squat. I would do a Bulgarian split stance squat with dumbbells. Good luck trying to do those with 80 pound dumbbells. You're so strong and tried doing some Bulgarian split squat with holding some heavy dumbbells and you wanna see your legs explode and you wanna see incredible benefit. I mean, do something like that or lunges. Like you, there's a lot of things that you can do or do a single leg body weight squat. I mean, there's a lot of things that I can do. If I have a client, I'm trying to develop their legs that if I don't have a traditional barbell squat rack that I can do. I mean, it's, and give them great, great results and never have to touch the Smith machine. So that's just no carryover. You know, like from that specific machine, like the Smith machine, you get good at the Smith machine. Right. And to your point, like I would totally prefer to do anything with the dumbbells because you have to stabilize. You have to, your body has to work all harmoniously to be able to pull off those movements where this is like, you're just sliding on a track and it's all doing it for you. Well, and a great, okay, to your point to carryover, right? Would somebody who squats, let's say 275 on a Smith machine, would they get more carryover to a barbell squat from that or being able to do holding, okay, 80 pound dumbbells doing Bulgarian split squat? I'll tell you right now, the person doing the Bulgarian split squat holding the 80 pound dumbbells will be better at squatting with a barbell on their back than the person who was in a Smith machine. And that's just where it's at for me. It's not that I think it's so bad, it's, oh, you can't do it, it's just, it wasn't, it wasn't designed for lower body. Okay, if you know the history of the machine, it was designed for upper body exercises. So it wasn't designed for that in the first place. Have people manipulated it to use it for lower body? Sure, can it work for them? Did it work well for some? Sure, okay. As a trainer and a coach for me, the risk versus reward, the carryover to a regular barbell squat, I have other things in my back pocket that I would use that I think would be far more valuable for the client. And so I would do things like that. That's just, that's where I stand on it. I don't, but I mean, I'm not, I'm not so hard on like it's the worst thing ever for you. It's like, no, I mean, I know I can get under there and do it and not hurt myself. Well, it's funny because it's, machines have the, you know, there's a belief that machines are lower risk of injury, but some machines actually have a high risk of injury. Smith machine squats, I'd say is one of them. And the reason is because you're fixed on a track. So you're going to cause, you can potentially, depending on how you move, cause yourself back problems. Leg press is another one. People think leg press is super safe for the low back because you're laying down on your back or whatever. But I've seen more people hurt their low back from doing a leg press than from doing squats, because at the bottom it causes your pelvis to rotate up and then you press off. And I've seen people actually hurt themselves really bad on a leg press. I'll give you some exercises on the Smith machine that I'll do occasionally. And when I say occasionally, I mean, rarely, but these are the exercises. If I do use a Smith machine, I'll do, I like upright rows on it. I get a really good pump from using it. And I do use a technique that's really good. Sometimes I'll even try barbell rows. It feels more like a machine row when I'm on there. And then sometimes I'll do like a behind the neck press or an incline chest press. Oh, I love it for an incline press or a chest press or a shoulder press. I love it for that. And when, especially when I'm doing drop sets or strip stress. Yes, that's when it's really good. I mean, it's when I'm by myself and I'm one, because I always train by myself and I haven't done a drop set or a strip set in a long time. And I'm like, I wanna hit my chest like that or I'm gonna hit my shoulders like that. Excellent tool. I mean, it's quick. I can get up real quick. And because I'm training to failure because I'm doing a drop set or a strip set, I've got the safety bars that can roll my wrist real quick and lock it out. I'm not worried about dumping the weight all over the place and looking like a fool. Like, so yeah, there's value in it. I don't think it's lower body though. Not that much. Push ups and body weight rows, that's all I got. Sorry. Next question is from Ollie Fuller 88. Apart from the hand position, how are the setup and execution of a close grip bench press and a standard bench press different? You know, the close grip bench press, I feel like is disappearing. I almost never see anybody do it and that's too bad. Such a great move. Oh, what a great exercise for the triceps, shoulders, even the chest, but definitely different than a standard bench press. I mean, for me, and I know you lean towards dips, but nothing put more mass on my triceps than close grip bench press. That blew my arms up. And I didn't do it for years. It was like one of those things that when I was a younger kid, I would throw it in there occasionally. And honestly, back then, I think as a kid, I didn't even know why we were doing it. It was just different. Oh, this is harder to try close grip, you know? I think back then I even thought it was like for your chest, where now it's like close grip for your, if you do it correctly, and there's a technique to it, right? So you're not trying to bench like you would normally chest bench press. You're trying to tuck your elbows in by your side because you want your triceps to carry most of the load. So, but for your triceps, I think it's one of the best compound lifts you could possibly do. I am gonna comment on the hand position because that's actually the most important thing. Some people get confused and think a close grip bench press is their hands are really close together. That's a recipe for a wrist injury. That type of lateral flexion of the wrist that's required for that close of a bench press can cause people a lot of problems. A good close grip bench press for most people is right around shoulders with shoulders or slightly closer. Yeah, so your elbows can basically slide into your ribs. That's it. Yeah, you get nice and low there. And yeah, at that point, your elbows bend and extend and you really feel out in the triceps. Well, there's no reason to go any closer than that because the whole idea of going close grip is to bring the elbows in. Cause if you flare the elbows all the way out wide and you're in really close, it's not as valuable as you being able to tuck your, tucking your elbows in line. So there's no reason to go any closer than shoulder with a part. And then here's the other mistake I see people making with a close grip. Because they tuck their elbows in, they bring the bar too low on their body and then it becomes a front delt press. The bar still needs to come around nipple line like you would with the traditional bench press. And that's what gives you the elbow bend that's required for triceps. But I have seen people, you know, they get the close grip and then because their elbows are in, now they're bringing the bar down to their midsection. And that's not so great for triceps. You're just gonna get more front delt. But I love close grip. It's programmed in a lot of our maps programs. I don't see people doing this lift. Yeah, we throw the incline bench in there, which is also like one of my favorites to do with a close grip bench. It's just, it feels like, it just feels more natural from incline position. No, I love it. Next question is from Stay at Homestone. Can you explain net carbs? Is this even important to consider if you count your macros? No. Well, I hate that. I do too. That is such a- No and done. It was such a marketing- It is. Yeah. It's so the bars and shakes can make claims. So they can say they're low carb. Yeah. Total bullshit. Net carbs, the way that they sell it, basically are carbs that are not fiber, okay? So fiber carbs, according to them, don't count. The only ones that count are non-fibrous ones, especially sugar, those only ones that count because fiber carbs have less of an impact on insulin or maybe you don't utilize them at all. Whatever their argument was was total bullshit. If it has calories, it counts. That's a bottom line. And net carbs also have calories, they're still carbohydrates. And you know when this got real popular? This got real popular when low carb dieting hit the mainstream. When low carb dieting was Akins, was really when it started taking off. That was in the, I wanna say the late 90s, early 2000s. And then later on with keto dieting, low carb dieting became all the rage and food manufacturers were trying to find out ways to sell more products to these low carb dieters but they couldn't put tons of carbs in their products. How do I make it palatable but also keep it so that it's low carb? And so they came up with this bullshit theory of, oh, the net carbs are only three and then you read the thing, it's like just 20 carbs. Now to that point, I think the one thing for people to understand too though is that, I mean, fibrous carbs are like from vegetables and fruit are better carbs for you, right? As far as metabolism wise, digestion goes. So they are better for you but the idea of subtracting them out, it's like I've never in my life one done it myself too, had any clients do it. I just don't see any value in it. Carbs and calories is all you need. If you're counting calories, you're tracking your proteins, fats and carbs, that's enough, that's plenty of information for the average person to really start to hone in on their diet and how they should be eating. They just over complicate it by subtracting out the fiber from it to try and it's just silly. So they could sell bars in shakes. It distracts you, yeah. So that way they can make your bars and shakes taste a little bit better without you feeling the guilt. Oh dude, what company was it? Was it Pure Protein Bars? That made, they claimed to have zero grams of sugar and it was because they had sugar alcohols in there and they're like, well, that doesn't have the same thing. It doesn't count. Actually it does. Sneaky. It does still count. It's 100% to sell more product because if I'm making a low carb product and in order to call something low carb, it needs to be lower than let's say 10 grams of carbohydrates or eight grams of carbohydrates. But I want it to taste good. I'm gonna use carbs that I can count, that I can consider to be not, doesn't count. These aren't net carbs. It's the oldest trick in the book, just reclassify it. It's totally 100%. No, definitely count all carbs if you're, and they all count. Now our, like Adam said, fiber, is that healthy for you? Are all carbs created equal? Of course not. All proteins, all fats are not created equal. But the notion that only net carbs count, don't worry about the other ones. They don't count in the body. It's total balderdash, doesn't bullshit. It's a great reference. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides and resources. They're all totally free. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Adam at Mind Pump Adam, Justin at Mind Pump Justin, and you can find me at Mind Pump Sal. Malarkey!