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Ond rwy'n rhaid i'n… I think that would be wise, councillor, if you drop that discussion to the audience. Thank you. The agenda item number three, which is a minute from our previous meeting, will do the same as always. It should be page three on your agenda. Page three, just sing out if you have any queries. Page four, page five, page six, page seven, and that's it. Page eight for the signers. Everything okay? We'll take that as being able to sign those off then. Thank you very much. And agenda item number four. So we're going over to Ms Dyer for the presentation. Please keep in mind of the applications. Thank you. I'm not doing the minutes of the previous meeting. Okay, so this month we have five applications, totaling 9,326.92 pence. First of which is on page 13, which is Croydon Reading Room. This stands on land owned by the village and they would like improvements to the building and the outside areas. The total project costs are £24,671 and they are requesting £2,000 from the community chest just for the outside play area and terrace. The parish council have contributed £2,800 for the new floor ring and Councillor Heather Williams is in support of your opinions please. Thank you. Colleagues, any questions, points? I'll go to Councillor Williams first if I may, they're new. Yeah, just a point of information to the committee. We have actually given these people money before. They came to us in 2020 and we gave them £2,000 in 2020 towards this renovation. I don't have a problem with that because obviously they will say that you can come back in the next year. But I just thought that it's innovation. Thank you. Members, can I just ask you to bring your mics a little bit closer to your bodies? Go for it. Councillor Hanley. Thanks for, Councillor Williams, for explaining that. My feeling is that this is a pretty good project and one that we should support. Thank you. Any comment on anything? I think it's an excellent project and obviously a community-based one and we should support it. Thank you very much. Can you tell us? I think it's an excellent project because you can see by what's listed here how well this place is used and we need things like that. Thank you. In that case, in this, Councillor Riff has a better thing to say. Nope. Okay, I'll take that. We have a yes on that one. Thank you very much. The first of our cost of living projects, or page 14. This is from Disability Huntingtonshire dish. This provides specialist benefit advice, support and advocacy for people of all ages and disabilities throughout Huntingtonshire and South Cambridgeshire. Funding from the community chest is requested to set up a once-a-month advice service known as advice on your doorstep to the disabled community in South Cambridgeshire. Total project costs are £1,531.92, all of which are being requested from the community chest. As you can see, there's a little note there just to say that we did part fund them through the service support grants in November. This actual project that they're bringing through the community chest is one of the projects which they obviously couldn't fulfil through the part funding. It was in that application but it's now coming through to us here. Thank you. This is the additional, if you like, on top project. Yeah. Colleagues, Councillor Lenton. It's a Huntington based charity but I can't see and maybe I've missed it that they have a base in South Cambridgeshire to provide this advice. I admit it's only once a month but have I missed it? They started a branch out into South Cambridgeshire and they said that they would set up a pre-agreed location within South Cambridgeshire so we need to clarify that further with them. I think that's actually been decided totally but that's the plan. Anybody else? Councillor Angraeg? So my feeling is that this benefits at the present moment Huntington more than it does us in Cambridgeshire because yes, they say they feel it would be beneficial to South Cambridgeshire residents but I think they've developed it more in Huntington rather than South Cambridgeshire. That's actually a good point but actually I've got a Councillor Williams who's got it to me today. Yeah, thank you chair. Point of information. Cambridgeshire, the Cambridgeshire version of this folded last year and they took on their clients so they are working in South Cams already also we have given the money in the past to look after the villages and the parishes in the north of the district so they have been covering the north of the district for some time so they are in effect, although they are based in Huntington they are actually already serving our residents so I do support this. It took the words out of my mouth, I knew they were working very hard and it was the takeover and it was the most perfect thank you. So any more questions on this colleagues? I hope to say I can support this. I'll take a role in supporting you. Lovely, thank you. Okay, page 15 are first only by a diversity application this month from Sheddits. Sheddits organises activities for local people. Projects tend to promote sustainability. It involves different parts of this project that they are wanting to take through the community chest will involve different parts of the local community where they would like to plant and rewild. There are a few set locations within Swaythe Sea where they would like to do this project and total project costs are £2,444 that includes in-kind contributions and £1,795 has been requested from the community chest. Those in-kind contributions have come from the, includes the parish council who have contributed £600 of in-kind contributions. Yeah, thoughts please on this one? Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Enter knows, has already declared, won't be speaking or voting on this but I do know that Councillor Enter is extremely supportive of this. So that's all I have to say about that. Any questions or comments? Councillor Gryffith. Just going to say I'm reading the information. It's like a really good project. Just the kind of thing we should be supporting. Thank you. Anybody else? If it's quality with our business plan as well, I want to encourage this kind of thing. Looking at John, Councillor Williams, you okay? Lovely, the next case then I'll take that as support for the application please. Thank you. Page 17, this is a deferred application from November from Cambridge Online. This is a charity that helps people in Cambridge to get online as the name suggests. It was deferred pending details of the following details, further information on their relationship with Cambridge City Council and if they intend to publicise on their website that they are branching out in South Cambridge. Now they've provided that information. They support Cambridge Online through grants and this then funds the main learning hub at the Hester Adrian Centre. They're basically saying that South Cambridge residents can still access this building and all the services they provide through those grants as well. They've also said if they receive funding from us they will add it to their website stating the support that they've received. This is already done from previous grants that they've received from South Cambridge District Council so I've had a look and I can see that we are actually mentioned. They're going to revamp the website as well and they're also going to publicise all the communities that they support when they upgrade their website so that will be clear to anybody wanting to access their services and they've asked for £2,000. Thank you. Just a point to comment if you wish whether they talked about their advertise and my view if we were minded to support. It says here in that the first bullet of the information, the extra information, you've just come back with that whilst it doesn't include sound comes if although if people in South Cambridge wish to use the Hester Adrian Centre they can attempt for free. Would this group go overboard if you like and make sure they advertise the fact because an awful lot of people come from South Cams into Cambridge for a variety of reasons and so if they needed information or help then they can go to here. If that would be something we could do if everyone has a different opinion but seeing that the likelihood is looking at there's no grouchy faces sitting round the tables here and I suspect there are following questions that we'll be supporting but anyone else got any points? I was going to say that additional information I think really clears up the questions we had previously and I've been supported this. Thank you. I'm very supportive and Cambridge this organisation was extremely collaborative and helpful through the COVID pandemic helping people to access the internet who may not otherwise have done so during isolation so absolutely did a fantastic job and I'm certainly supportive. In that case I'm looking round the room to support. Thank you very much. Page 19, another deferred application from Born Sports Club. This application was deferred depending details of the relationship between the Sports Club and the Parish Council. Just for a bit of clarity, the courts and the floodlights are the responsibility of the Born Sports Club. Although there's no formal lease with the Parish Council there is a long standing agreement that confirms this arrangement and from 2025 the Parish Council when they have full responsibility for the pavilion building the lights and the courts will still rest with the Sports Club just for clarity there. So yes, I don't know if you have any questions on that one I can provide further details if you've got any questions on that as well. Thank you. Colleagues, questions? We've had the answers back. Miss Dair has got those from the applicant. I think perhaps we'll just look at this now from a criteria point of view if you wish. Does it fit? Does it feel like he's within the spirit that there are some issues if you like because Parish Councils cannot apply to the groups, obviously can. How are we feeling? Catra Eventon? I'm happy that they have come back with the information. There is some split between the organisations and that it follows in the concept of going green and improving the lighting situation. Have I missed something? It really is all about is it in the spirit of things, isn't it? I think if we're content that this is indeed it's not a Parish Council application in disguise. That's the thing. I think we can only go on what we've got down here, frankly. I'm wondering if I could ask Councillor Williams if he has an opinion on this. I was perhaps going to say, Councillor Williams, that it would be very pleasing for the committee to be reassured by the applicants that they would be purchasing the equipment themselves rather than anybody else. I'd like to ask Emma when obviously we pay the grant upon receipt of the invoice from the organisation. I think we should make it clear to the Bourne Sports Club that we expect them to purchase this equipment and that we will pay the invoice that they receive for this work. But we will not pay it if it's done for a third party. That was going to be my suggestion. They would definitely have to make that in the terms and conditions that they would make the purchase and progress the project as well. Obviously because the Parish Council wouldn't be eligible to apply because they were larger Parish Council, so yes, that's exactly what I would say. That's fabulous. I would be supportive of what Councillor Williams and Emma has just suggested. Any other colleagues? Any comments? Then what Councillor Williams and Miss Dyer have suggested is the route forward, the way forward. Approval or not the approval? Approval. That's approved and thank you very much. You can go to the next one please. I go on to the next one. Did you want us to make an action going forward? Just to make a little clarity on the application process that those that are applying should be making the purchases. Officers could take this away potentially if you wanted us to add a bit of clarity to the application process. That could be something we could consider if you wanted. I think that would probably be handy actually because this one has been difficult to decide upon just because of the complexities of who was purchasing what. So I think perhaps if we spell it out in really plain English so that people understand that this is exactly where they have to go, then that will hopefully cut down the time that we can say yes on it. Much nicer to say yes than we'd defer it or no. I think that my colleagues would agree. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. And then further considerations for criteria that leads on quite nicely to page 29. This is I believe Appendix C I think it is. There were three questions. We often get a lot of questions asked regarding to amounts. If they've made an application in one financial year could the same group apply again as long as they didn't exceed that maximum of £2,000? So that was one of the questions and then related to that as well. Obviously as you can see from the table that I provided, obviously we've got our ring-fenced amounts as well. So if they applied up to £2,000 for the main community test elements within one financial year, could they also apply to one of the other ring-fenced amounts as well? So that was the second question really. So it's just obviously that. And then thirdly, obviously other council grants as well, other separate grants. How would it, outside the community test grants, how would members feel about that question as well? It's just to provide a little bit further clarity. And just one thing to highlight. There currently is an existing exception in that if an organisation receives zero carbon communities funding in one financial year, they couldn't apply for the community test in the same financial year because obviously we have that biodiversity element as well. So that is one thing that's existing but it is obviously just to get a little bit of guidance from you as to how you'd like us to answer those questions in the future and perhaps add something to the criteria. Okay, thank you. Colleagues, you've got the questions there on page 29, 1, 2 and 3. Should we just work our way through quickly for some comment and thoughts? Do it one at a time. Question one. Any thoughts on that? About whether or not it's someone too good? I think yes, they should be able to apply. I mean, doesn't necessarily mean they'll get approval but you surely judge each application on its merits. So I can't see why not. Anybody else? Yep, I think that's it. Count it on me? Yes. Thank you. We're in agreement there. So making that comment to the League of Member for Finance that we've been in agreement with Yes for number one. We'll go to number two now, please. Colleagues, it's slightly more complex, but you've got any examples, Mr, about how this would... So if supposing a project for just normal community chairs, general community chairs, they got £2,000 in a financial year, and then they had an also, the same organisation has a biodiversity project, could they then apply for up to potentially £2,000, making £4,000 if you see what I'm saying, for the whole financial year, could they apply for additional funding through a different ring fence amount, so that it would exceed £2,000, but it's still a project in one of those other categories, really. Does that make sense? It does. Councillor Gryffith. I think yes, because they're different things that they're applying for. I mean, that's why they're separate grant funds, so I don't think, again, it won't necessarily get approved, but, again, you're looking at each individual application, and that's my opinion. I'm mindful of the fact that a sheddit that we've looked at today has 25 members and they're all doing different projects, so that's why we've actually had two or three applications from them over the last couple of years. And if it's in a different category, it seems quite reasonable to be looking at the merit of the project rather than the overall money. Councillor Henry. Sorry, I went deaf for a second. Yeah, I mean, I go for flexibility, actually. Yeah, I'm all for the flexibility that this offers. I mean, we don't have to say yes, so that's the point. And yeah, if a project needs another top-up to make it viable, then I think we should have the ability to grant that. So, yes, I would be supportive of that one. Lovely. So, I think each one at its own merit and they're all important projects for community building as well, thinking of my area as well. So, I would support the applications, at least. Thank you. I can hope, and in question three, if an organisation is successful in receiving funding and so on. John. Absolutely. There is, obviously, we need to make sure that the funding, we don't double count the funding so that they apply to more than one for the same thing. They apply to more than one fund for the same thing in order to hedge their bets. So, we need to make sure that we do know that they have applied to another fund and we need to know at the time we make a decision if they've been successful in applying to that other fund because that could have a bearing on your decision on whether to fund the money, say, from the community chest if they've all received money from the Biodiversity Fund and they don't need the extra money but they just hedge in their bets and apply to both funds for the same project. So, we need to be kept, we just need to make sure that when we need to ask have you applied to another fund for this project so that we can cross-reference it. That's a really good point actually because there are the odd applicants who could be classed as cheeky. We'll put that in the cheeky category. But actually, it's a really good point because what we found, I remember a few years back, we did a survey, it was like a bank chart of who had what, how many, which communities were getting the most out of the community chest system and other grant system parishes were doing better than others. But it was because perhaps they had a much more dynamic group. We're doing this work and I think this is quite important that we don't stop that. So, you know, encourage it if anything. But as you say, no cheekiness. Thank you. I think we can add a question in perhaps into the application form. Have you applied to another council grant within the same, well, this year or whatever. We can word that correctly. Number three then, colleagues. It's kind of on a theme of number two, isn't it? Country Linton. I just feel that it follows on logically from one and two and that we should permit it for three. I agree. I suppose the point we're making is checking that somebody isn't pulling a fast one. But at the same time, if an organisation is hard working and is applying for different things and being really active, that's a really good thing. And every single time you and the committee will look at the grants with that knowledge or what they're applying for, have applied for, but on the merits of what they're putting in this time. So, I think it's a good thing to encourage. Well, I think we're agreed then, all of us. Our recommendation is to, through you, misdiad to cancer Williams that we agree. And if there's any fine tweaking that you need to do, then we're happy with that. I think that would be fair to say. So, thank you very much for doing that piece of work. I believe that could be it. It is, yes. Marvis, thank you so much for presenting today. And thank you to our dental services officers, Jonathan and Kyra for keeping us a steady ship. I think, as they say, that will be that for today. Thank you very much. You've got to say goodbye to the world for us. Thanks.