 Welcome to Toffy TV, we encourage all our viewers, especially those on Patreon to send us in videos, and James has done so. Hi lad, I'm James here, just a discussion point for you to talk about the recent links to Tiago's Silver. Personally I think it would be a fantastic addition to the team, but to the squad he's got vast experience, he's a leader, he's a winner, he can still play, he's still got his legs, I've watched a lot of him at PSG. And now he's had protection off other players, we know it's been someone earlier on, he has the legs of Ghana and Verratti in front of him and stuff at PSG. I still think he'd be a fantastic sign and I think obviously people could lay him from him. And obviously with the financial situation, obviously with us maybe not having that money available to buy the legs of a Gabriel, what do you think about it? Keep up the good work lad, see you later. Cheers James. I want to sign Tiago's Silver, just so we can get Alex some glass on me. Oh Tiago's here. Bring him back, he needs a gig, he'll lad, he peacht. Well there'll be no glass on me this year. There's no glass on me this year, the kid peacht last year, the glass on me. But listen, Tiago's Silver is leaving PSG on a free transfer and apparently there are suitors for him in London Arsenal, Tottenham and we have also been mentioned because I've obviously the link between him and Carlo Ancelotti, someone who we talked about very, very highly. So 35, 36 when the next season starts? 36 in September. So is this a complete no go for you? Yeah, I would say so. I think he's on. I just think we need to, we need as a club to move away from this kind of player at the end of the career. The caveat to it is if Carlo Ancelotti wants him, then fair enough, you go with that because he knows the player and he's got all the experience and he'll know exactly what he wants from him and what he can bring to this evidence side. But for me, just on the face of it, even if it is a thing, you know what I'm saying? Isn't he on something like 250 grand a week or something? Yeah he is, but he ain't getting that anywhere else. Let's be honest, he isn't getting, he isn't, I don't even think he's getting a quarter of that wherever he goes. I really don't. Because what else does he, listen, he, and I'm not making an angry facade, well I will make an angry facade, but not like a massive one. But I've seen this, like oh he's on double or what any evidence player is on now. So what, he ain't in and that kind of, he's at a club that pays ridiculous amounts of money. He will have been on a good contract, probably like a four-year contract, maybe his last contract. He ain't getting that anyway. He ain't getting that off that. I'm stupid enough. Totting them saying that, we'll pay less than us. So he ain't getting that off them. And whatever is other options, we'll maybe go back to Brazil, which we've seen a couple of other Brazilian internationals do recently. They ain't paying them, my God, they ain't. He said though he's nothing, he's thinking Europe hasn't he? That's what the thing is, he wants to stay in Europe. No, I understand that now. But I just think that argument needs to just be dismissed. Nobody's not what I'm saying is, he's still demanding a decent amount of money and the problem is. But how, how though, how could he demand these? No, how though, how? Because if ever one of them, the ball will be in our court to give him what he wants. But what if nobody else, this is what I'm saying. Don't be privy to that. I don't think anyone's going to, I think the days. What do you think he would get at everything? I think if you would say to him, we'll give you a year and you'll be on 50 grand a week. Take her all of it. Do you think, no, but what I'm saying is though, I'm talking about market forces here, right? Nothing else. Do you think Arsenal or Tottenham would give him more than 50 grand? No, maybe he'll get 50 grand, but it's London, which is always a big pull anyway. No, but what I mean is though, let's say three clubs in and from. And not all of them say, we're giving you no more than 50 grand. He has no, we're tired in it, but that's fine now, but I'm just saying to you that it's still a decent amount of money. But my issue isn't even that really. My issue is, you've been 36 since when the season starts. It's been a fantastic defender. Great experience played 89 times for Brazil. You know, he's won seven league titles with PSG. He's won the Russian, you know, the Russian, he won the Milan. He's been fantastic and he's a really good player. But I just think, we've seen it with Fabian Delph, who's 29, 30 this season. I just think he's one injury away from Everton fans going, this is another disgrace. He could come and be, he's played 30 games this season for PSG. So he's been fifth at the majority of the games. He could come and be fine. But I just worry about someone who's never played in the Premier League. Come in at the age of 36, nearly. Not having the likes of Guy and Mark Heanos in front of him, Protecton and Barathe. Coming into Everton's defence with Guilfee Sigarton and players like that in front of him. It's not quite the same as going into a league that is now all about power and pace. And what, it's like the merits of it, isn't it? Is he coming in to play alongside Mason Holgate? Is he coming in to play alongside Yeri Mina? Or is he coming in to be a sub when he can probably play for teams? That's the, again, I see this is the thing. But I think he will play for Arsenal. I think he will play for Arsenal. I think he will play for Arsenal actually, that's the thing. And I think he will play for Tottenham as well. So maybe that would be the thing. I look at it from a slightly different position. I know what you're saying about Delft. But I think he's got a long list of injury problems. I don't know if Thiago Silva has, I'll be honest. I think he's played a decent amount of games this season. I think obviously they've looked at it and gone, they're a club who are chasing Champions League. Obviously they're still in the Champions League this season. They're a club that's certainly not willing to pay him what he would want next season. So for me, I look at it, OK, wages is a big thing. And moving away from that idea of bringing players in. I do think there is a lack of experience. And when I say experience, I know there's older players, but winning mentality experience. It's why I would like to have seen someone like Zlatan coming for half a season. And I know, again, people are like, why would you want, it's bringing a winning mentality into a football club. It's getting that player on the pitch. You can instill that in, you can take the leadership off the manager and go, right, because I read the thing, you know, you read Carlos Buch and you read what he says about, well, with Zlatan, Zlatan says, we went into Paris on the man and we instilled this winning mentality. We shaped the club, how it should be in professionalism in terms of all kinds of things from the canteen to the training ground and everything. We laid the foundations. And I think we need Dad of Heaven football club. I think we need a player to come in who's been there and seen it and done it. And even it's for a year and just start shaping the players' mentality. Now, I don't know if that's who this player, I honestly don't. But I do believe we need someone like Dad of Heaven because I just think we, I know, Delphers like that, people are like, oh, you've seen one of the things, and I understand that sort of brought into that myself a little bit. But he was still only a bit par player at Man City. Whereas I think we do need that player who's been there and seen it and done it and can just bring that influence in. And even it's just for a year. And I think that kind of experience is where if it's weight and go. I just don't know if you can quantify it though. That's the thing. I don't know if you can quantify that kind of experience. Now, would he play every week for everything? Probably not. Would he play enough games to satisfy him? I don't know. When you're right, he could go to an Arsenal, he could go to a Tottenham and play a lot of games because they play a lot of games, especially like if Tottenham probably won't be in the Champions League season. In the Europa League. And maybe I don't have Arsenal being in the Europa League. But they can give though. But I think someone like Merinio fully understands the need for a player like that. And I think Carlo might, but obviously the clubs of it are slightly different places. Is it the right time for them to come to Everton? That's the question. And is he the right player? I don't know. He's played 34 games, 42 games, 40 games, 45 games, 40 games, 39, 39, 30 so far this season. It means nothing. Of course. And that's the thing, he's not played less than 30 games in the season since signing for Paris Saint-Germain. Haven't played 40 odd games in two seasons at Milan. Now, the thing with that, people would say our French League is a lot easier. Of course. It comes to the Premier League and it's a lot faster. The French League is quite a physical league. He's played, look, John Philip Gabbaman had missed four games in two seasons until he comes to Everton. And then, you know, the kids played one and a half games for us. And he's out till 2021. So injuries happen. I mean, Balasi hadn't missed hardly any games since we signed him from Paris and Rechden. So, you know, injuries can happen. And that's my fear, I guess, he comes. He gets injured and people are like, we wasted another thing on him. I'm a big contract on him and blah, blah, blah. I get, I understand what you're saying and you're writing in some respect to that, you know. But then we brought Samietta in and his experience at winning stuff didn't translate to the... But then I guess we had the wrong man in charge to be able to use his experience. That is a different situation and I understand what you're saying there, but he had a lot more experience than Rebetta Maniz. I, what I would say is, whether it be Tiago Silva or somebody else, if Carlo Ancelotti wanted to bring a player in with experience and there was a reason why he wanted to bring him in, that reason was, like I've just said, the... Culture. Like the slathan thing of these players have not won anything and they need to understand what it takes. And as a club, we need to understand what it takes as in the standards you set in training, the standards you set off the pitch, the standards you set in a dressing room, someone who can go in there and go, here's my medals, mate. I'll tell you what you need to do. I don't know if we've got, we've had that culture at ever and I don't know if we have got that culture. It's funny because we had someone in Wayne Rooney who had that, who had a little bit of... Obviously had more than a little bit of it. And I just... Listen, I don't know whether this is the right one, but I do feel like we need one. I do, like I said right at the start, if Auntie Lottie wants him, then I'm fine with it. I go with it. Would I prefer someone like Gabrielle, who we've been linked heavily to? Yes, I would. Because he's for the future. I mean, the reason why the people are watching and going on, going, you're saying he'll play for Spares now, somebody won't play for Everton. I don't mean it like that. What I mean is we've got like a young defender partnership in terms of Holgate, and we've got Yeri Meiner, who's only 24, and now obviously we've got Michael Keane, who's 27, and then we've got a 36-year-old centre back coming in. Where is Arsenal? They've got Salab coming in, who's going to be fantastic. It's really good. You can imagine him playing with Tiago Silver and you've got the pace and the youth playing with the experience. Spares are about to lose for Tongan, so there's a gap in their centre back. Again, myri, you know, apparently, wants him, cos myri, you know, will now. They understand their experience, so again, you could see him alongside all the world, or alongside Davies and Sanchez, or someone like that at Spares, and they play three at the back as well under myri. I mean, from a footballing point of view for us, just I think that one thing I would say is, if he was to come in and let's say he got a year with an option for a second one, and look at it and think to yourself, well, in that year, Lewis Gibson could be on loan somewhere, Banthway could be on loan somewhere. Michael Keane could be shalled, let's say, and you get a decent return for Michael. I don't think you will get a decent return, but you could get 15 to 18 million let's say for Michael Keane cos he's only got two years left on his contract, and I can't imagine they're going to offer him another contract, so you need to cash in at some point. And I look at this and just think, for a year, he could back, could be the bridge and player for one of those other younger players to step up and also give everyone the opportunity to go and find another long-term centre back in that time where the guy, for all we know, Gabriel could stay here, could stay here for another year, and everyone could be like, stay there for six months for a year and we'll come and get you next year, no problem at all. So, from that point of view, it could be that extra person. So, I'm not dismissing it out of hand. I know it goes against the culture we're trying to create. I fully understand that, but as I just said, I do feel like... I do feel... Call of Duty hasn't brought anyone in yet, first team wise. So... And this is a summer which could be dominated by swaps and free transfers and he's free. You've got to put it in those terms. It's great sitting here going, we won. 22-year-old players are going to be the next big thing and we're going to cultivate them. But we're trying to get one of them and Gabriel and that's gone for a walk because everything's been taken upside down. So... It's not a no for me, because it's definitely not a no. It's more of a... But then, listen, beggars can't be choosers, are they? And if it's presented to us... And I'm not saying it is or it isn't, then I think you've got to investigate the thing, but if it's... But you investigate it, and then they look at it and go, this just isn't really worth it. Then I've got that fine, but I do like the idea of just looking at the premise of it and then making the decision rather than just dismissing it out of hand. Well, yeah, I mean, it's what brands are here for, isn't it? It's ear to try to create that and cultivate a team over that's going to have young players with a sell-on, whether people like that or not. That's the whole thing about it. You grow together and then if those players don't wing you something, you can sell them and then reinvest with more because that's what most football clubs generally do, whether people like to admit it or not. It's what most clubs do, they bring younger players in. Liverpool have done fantastically well by doing that, with the likes of Catino and Suarez. They've reinvested brilliantly, and we've seen other teams do it. United did it all those years ago with Ronaldo and reinvested it with good players with it. That's generally what a football club is running like, isn't it? You're seeing, the likes of Real Madrid, not wanting to sell players to reinvest. So the top clubs are doing it, then why wouldn't we do it? But there will be those occasions like this where the manager might look and go, it's too good an opportunity for me to get someone in who knows the mind method, just want everything. And they do like to bring someone in who you've managed before, don't they, managers? It's what you share everywhere, don't you? Really. So, yeah, it's just off the, straight off the bat, you look and just go, 35, 36-year-old centre-back, but then again one of the best centre-backs I've ever seen. Play for Evan came in at 37, but you go off and it was incredible. For two years with that know-how and knowledge, and just being able to drop off and, you know, influence people's show. If I can go for it, you go for it. But yeah, that's it, isn't it? If they go for it, they go for it. I'm sort of not really that bothered, but it'd be interesting if they do investigate it. If he did come in, he'd bring a wealth of knowledge and a wealth of experience. Another Brazilian? Yeah, so obviously you've got, you know, even like a minor, you know, but he's a Portuguese-speaking hands-like goal, and so he'd fit the challenge and be with him in the national side but not as well, played in the national side, and so they all, they know him. So, yeah, I think there'd be no problem. It'd be interesting. Did you go? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Would you encourage us going after Tiago Silver or Too Old? Don't need another player coming in on high wages that could end up getting injured or whatever. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Don't forget, give this video a like, subscribe if you haven't, and if you want more great videos, join us over on Patreon. The link is in the description. See you later.