 Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. If you ever feel like you can't make it, man, this guy get your great inspiration, man. You know, I know I read up on the save from New York. Brownfield, New York, but I seen him with palm trees behind him the last time I seen him. I know this by, hey, man, this man here, man, like I said, I never would have thought it would have happened, man. But here today on Boss Talk 101, man, great Shannon Briggs. What's going on, baby? Thank you, champ. Thank you for having me. Save, man. Thank you for coming, man. Thank you, champ. Man, the champ thing, man, it's, hey, man, it done revived everything, man. Let's go, champ. And it's done helped so many people. Thanks. Save, man. How did you come up with that? Man, I had hit a point in my life, champ, where I was down and now I was depressed. I had ballooned up in weight. I was about 403 pounds. Yeah. I had, you know, walked away from boxing for a few years. I had been out of the game. I was eating a lot. I would have been subscribed, what is it called? Psych medication. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Depression. And I was actually taking, like, Deborah Coase, Sarah Quill, Zolaugh, Paxu, and I was 403 pounds, man. And I eventually, I was just down. Now, I eventually started, you know, I opted to get off, get off, prescription drugs. I started using cannabis. And it eventually led to me just one day just sitting down telling myself, man, not feeling good about myself and saying, yo, you a champion, man. You got to, you know, my entourage was gone. My friends, my money was gone. And I just basically, I hit a point where I was like, you know, I just had my daughter and she was a changing point too for sure. And then, you know, I started selling Champ. And one day I said, let's go Champ. Let's go Champ. To push myself. How hard was it for you to get out of that depression yourself? Because I see so many people in the limelight who, you know, for us seeing people like, oh, they have money, but people don't realize that problems can't come to anybody. Depression can come to anyone. So, but you see some people who commit suicide because of depression. I mean, some people who can't come out of that state. How hard was it for you to really just mentally tell yourself, well, I need to just get out of this? And I mean, it was, it was, it was a struggle in a sense. And how long did it take you? It took me about two, three years, I think. OK. Before I finally, I was eating a lot. I was using food as a comfort. Yeah, exactly. Comfort, you know, I was doing that and I was drinking at the time I had been drinking since I was like 13, 14 years old. I picked that up as a teenager because I was homeless. I mean, yeah, yeah, I lost a home and I was living from place to place in one of the neighborhoods that I moved to Flatbush, which is a West Indian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know we've been to Flatbush, actually, when we ate at the restaurant. So they used to drink around in the bush. Yeah, yeah. I started drinking around 13, 14, started with 40s and then, you know, but I was never into smoking. And then I picked up cannabis, like I said. But it took me about about two, three years to when I was like. And it wasn't anybody who actually like tried to help you through it. Yeah, it was many people. But again, you know, I had been boxing since I was like 15, 16. And I think it was a combination of, you know, probably that being hit in the head. You know what I mean? I fought five of the hardest punches in boxing. Yeah, yeah. I fought Francois, both the hardest hitters. George Form. Yeah, yeah. Alex Lewis, Vitaly Klistko, Ray Mercer and Sergey Lackov, which is a real big punches. So I think the combination of that and then my childhood was, you know, pretty intense. You know what I'm saying? Only child lost my mom. Yeah, yeah. She died on my birthday. My pops died in prison. These are the things that, you know, You went through a lot. Yeah, I went through a lot. But I say that to say all that made me stronger. To be honest, it made me, I guess I was already strong, you know, but it made me stronger to have to hit so many down points in my life and then build myself up. So when I was about 37, 38, and I was at a down point, I was always a reader. So I was looking to, you know, find out, you know, I went to like private school as a kid. Yeah. You know, and so I was always into reading and I was actively trying to find ways to heal myself from depression from, you know what I'm saying? So I was, I was reading a lot about cannabis. I was reading about different things that I was, you know. Cannabis, but I got a lot of people making money too, I believe, because they all invested. You know, that's been a new thing. You know what I mean? Everybody from everybody you read up on, that's what they're doing. And they say helping people too, a lot. So the thing, so coming up young, the great, I know Mike Tyson and I read up on a few things on you. How was that experience seeing him come from? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The boy was serious, man. Yeah, like, like, so when you, you, you're younger than him. Yes, brother. Yes. So, so you've seen that. And did that give you like I can make it? Yeah, I can make it. I mean, well, you know, I never, I never thought, honestly, that I'd be a boxer. Never thought it. No, because, you know, I grew up only child when mom spoiled me, right? And you know what I'm saying? I went to private school. Yeah. I mean, I went to Catholic high school for a year. So I was always living good. You know what I mean? I didn't have to do nothing. You know what I mean? I always had a hustle on me to try to get jobs and all that. But when we lost our home when I was 13. Yeah, yeah. That's when I had to like live from house to house. And that's when I, you know what I'm saying? I got serious in the boxer. But Mike was a motivation again. Like I said, I wasn't expecting to be no boxer. But when I hit rock bottom by the time I was 16, 15, 16, I was getting in trouble, getting arrested. And I was in the streets. I was really in the streets. My pops was on the run. He wound up getting caught and going to prison and dying. So for me, my whole life changed. And that's when I became a harder and more harder person. And I got in the boxing. Luckily, I had skills. You know what I mean? And I like to use boxing as an outlet. Yeah, yeah. Life saver. But I'm from Marshall. OK, Jefferson Marshall. Texas. Yeah, you. But he be charged for me. So he ought to know March. That's where I charge from. Yeah. I met George. I walk up to him at the. And I never would have thought I'd met George and Shannon Briggs. This is crazy. OK, thank you. Because I met him at the J.C. Pennies over there across from where I had the store at. And I walk up to him. I'm like, dude, you look familiar. Y'all tripping on him because I even, you know, I'm at home. So I'm like, you know, I didn't really think about him. But then it hit me when I seen people start as autographs. But yeah, yeah. But very cool cat, man. Yeah. But that was a that was a that was a fight that pretty much did it like revive like you. That was a championship fight, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, I won the title. Yeah, the first I was my first title. I won the linear championship from him. But yeah, tough fight. Again, my mom had died on my birthday. And the fight was, you know, not too far after. And it was something that I think kept me kept me up and kept me strong, motivated me for the fight. But the opportunity that he gave me was life changing. I was at a down point in my life. Yeah. I, you know, I wound up getting a very close decision. Yeah. It was anyway. Yeah. My God, I won the title and it was life changing. I can go down and rest of my life. And here was a kid sleeping on the train a few years before that. Me and my mom and now here we are. I was a, you know, she had died, but I had won the title. Yeah. She gave me a sense of of work, self-worth. So how old was she when she died? 25. Yeah. About how old I was when my mom died. So yeah, about the same. But it was about 96 for me. Yeah, it was 96. See, like, like she died of cancer, though. Yeah. And she was 44. Yeah. So my mom's is 51. So, yeah, she had to overdose. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I read up on that, too. Man, I just, like I said, it's just crazy, man, that how you got to know about resilience to be in boxing, man. You got to be able to bounce back. You know what I mean? Yeah. So when you came back from the weight, you know, losing the weight and getting back to your true self, you know, you thought to yourself and came to yourself. That right there had to be, that's something else. People don't use, you know, a lot of people, they count their self-ordinated. They don't come back, you know, but you was able to. I had a lot of haters. So I was like. That helps. Yeah, yeah. I had motivation. I had help. I was happy to see me off my good foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, you know what I'm saying? I got fat, it was like, oh, you'll never come back. I remember I had, I had, you know, Dreadlocks. I had locks, I don't even say Dreadlocks. I had locks for like 27, 28 years. I just had a blonde Dreadlock, you know. I saw that. Yeah. When did you cut it? Well, when I was going through my depression. Okay. The first time I tried cannabis, it was one day. I'm like a friend of mine who was a chef. He had left it at my house. I was in a smoker. I wind up hitting it like two, two, two, two o'clock in the morning, two, three o'clock in the morning. And I had an experience, man. I just like, I started crying. And I just started, I was 403 pounds. And I started crying. I was, I was just, I don't even know why. Just then I envisioned myself in shape, traveling the world. I hadn't been home for a while and I was eating, eating crazy. And I envisioned myself traveling the world in shape. And I was like, damn. And I was crying. I went in the house and I fell asleep. And when I woke up the next morning, I just walked in the bathroom with no thought. And I just went in the bathroom and started shaving my head bald without questioning. You know what I'm saying? And my wife walked in and she started crying. She's like, oh my God. I was wondering if you were a man at that time. She started, she said, you went crazier. You know, she's like, you went crazier. And she cried. Yeah, I was like, nah, I'm okay. I'm okay. I was like, nah, everything is good. And she was like, well, I was like, no, I don't know what it is. But then it hit me. The blunt was outside, you know? Wow. So when I saw it, I hit it a couple more times. And again, I felt for the first time in years, my imagination came back. Wow. Yeah, I had some block in my brain. That's crazy. I couldn't think about positive and seeing myself in a better place. And here I was now. So when I hit the tree, I was like, oh, snap. So I called my boy. I was like, yo, Jerome, get over here.