 Which is very similar to the type of research we're doing, conservation development trade-offs and SCFs here. He and I recently met at the Society of Conservation Co-op in China and realised there's a great bit of synergy between the work he's doing and what's happening at C4 and so we took this opportunity to invite him to come and give a presentation and he's particularly interested in working in, has been working at Caledon 10 and after the presentation he's been working with us to share experiences of working in Caledon 10 perhaps Eve and others and we had the opportunity to stay out and have a more informal discussion and I know that more work is going to be certain that it doesn't come yet. But anyway, welcome people to Caledon 10. Thank you for your presentation. You have advanced in conservation in the social context and our focus on trade-offs. I'm really here to seek your feedback in a sense and I want to present this as a way of giving some feedback to you. I'm very interested in learning more about your domain for work here at C4 because as serious as there is I think a lot of potential for collaboration. There are certainly very productive points of connection. So let me just, the Center for Integrative Conservation which is just to give you some context was created in January 2007 at the University of Georgia by the Research Initiative advancing conservation in the social context. It was initiated by the MacArthur Foundation, a product of Michael Wright who was the, at that point, the conservation director at MacArthur having proposal after proposal after proposal come across his desk and promise win-win scenarios. And he grew skeptical and he said, listen, there are times when we really can't expect win-win scenarios. They're very optimistic but are they realistic? And so he was interested in developing a way that in the context of his particular work that they could in fact have people who apply for funding in essence admit that sometimes it has to be hard choices but then what? And that's the question the funders face. It's the question that many of us face in our work. ACSC has conceived it was a five-year project, three years of research, two years of dissemination. We are now in year three. It's a partnership between Arizona State, the Center for Integrative Conservation Research at the University of Georgia and three, well Georgia Tech and CSR as well, but three country partners, Sequenta University of Agriculture in Tanzania, the Improving Society for Environmental Law in Lima and Cress in Vietnam at Vietnam National University. The goal of ACSC is to improve the ability of key actors to identify, analyze and negotiate future conservation development trends. What we're aiming toward is a set of, we're not aiming toward a toolkit. We've all seen the proliferation of toolkits. They tend to sit on our shelves. They have a limited shelf life. We're looking for something more and this is why we use the idea of some norms that researchers and practitioners can use to analyze situations and navigate. We talk often in our discussions about identifying, analyzing, navigating three different sort of processes for addressing trade-offs and ultimately developing curricula, short courses and so forth. Now, let me talk about the Center. You can go back and talk about the Center and our role in all of this and then I'll talk more about the ACSC framework. The Center was established to promote what we refer to use the term integrated rather than interdisciplinary in part because interdisciplinary privileges, academics and an academic perspective and obviously working in the domain of conservation and development. What's important, and here I'm speaking as an academic, is meaningful engagement with community practitioners across a range of different domains. Integrative, we think sort of captures that a little bit better than simply interdisciplinary. At CICR we played a key role in ACSC in helping to develop some of the research, supporting the network development and managing information. We've also, this is something that many of you may be interested in, we've been developing an online database. We now have something of over 3,000 references. If you register, we're constrained by copyright law. You have to register to get access but anyone is free to register. And particularly those of you who are interested in the social aspects of conservation, we've got a lot of holdings there. We're working to develop it still in other directions, environmental economics and other ways. Those are still relatively, we're working in that direction. So I welcome any of you to take advantage of that resource.